What to expect next from Nikon


After the latest announcements, here is an updated list of what to expect next from Nikon (see previous lists here):

I think it is safe to assume that the next big Nikon announcement will be for the D810 replacement unless we get some kind of a surprise for the 100th anniversary (July 25th).

Nikon has to also announce the pricing and details of their commemorative items.

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  • paige4o4

    Do you expect the D820 and the new E/FL telephoto lens to be announced together?

    • doge

      I would expect all their new stuff for the remainder of the year to be announced together as part of their 100th anniversary celebration.

      • dabug91

        That’s what I was thinking. They could just announce everything in July and release everything by January.

        • manattan

          Nikon could just announce all sorts of stuff. Doesn’t mean they have to actually ship anything LOL

    • Not sure, the D810 replacement is a big deal and I think they will announce it alone.

      • Isaac Fulford

        If the new camera has a much better sensor could one of the lenses announced be a new 24-120 f4e? Would make sense considering canon updated theirs when the 5d mk4 came out. The Nikon is old, and weak on the current FX sensors.

        • Mac

          I disagree. The current 24-120 is a great lens. Haven’t used it on a monster pixel camera like the D810, but no complaints on my D750.

          • sickheadache

            the 24-120 is a great lens? I didn’t get that memo on that subject.

            • Mac

              How about some specifics as to your criticism? It’s a little soft on the edges from 90-120mm at all apertures which might matter when doing landscapes, but 90% of the time that makes no difference to me. If you have some great lenses to recommend I’m all ears.

            • Aldo

              It is a ‘great’ lens from 24-80… although contrast isnt all that. I have it and for what I use it for it does well.

            • Aldo

              It is great like he said… not the best of course

            • Brett A. Wheeler

              It’s not sharp enough, in my opinion.

            • CERO

              meh, Id take the Sigma over the Nikon one.

            • Agree. The 24-120 sucks.

          • Isaac Fulford

            Iv’e compared it to the cheaper sigma art, and the sigma is much better. I bought the sigma over the nikkor.

            • Mac

              Thanks for the info, Isaac.

          • I agree. I have used it on my D800 and I got some really nice shots with it. I love the range of it. The only thing I didn’t like is that it is an f4. But the VR does help with that on low light situations, but not as much as the new VR III that is on the 70-200mm f4. That is a phenomenal lens and pretty good in low light as well. Much better than the 24-120 is. In good light, the 24-120 is a great lens though.

            • Mac

              Thanks for the constructive input, PWPhoto. Greatly appreciated. Have heard the 70-200mm f/4 is a great lens. Definitely on my short list of new lenses to get.

          • Thom Hogan

            Well, there you have it. Absolutely verified to work just great on a D820 because you have no complaints on the 24mp D750. ;~)

            • Mac

              I never said that, and frankly could care less if it works great on a D820 or not because I could care less about a D820, D850, or whatever Nikon ends-up calling it. Guess my opinion and experiences pale in comparison to those who think they know it all.

            • Thom Hogan

              You need to be more careful with words, then. You disagreed with a generalized statement about all full frame sensors by using your experience with a 24mp one. As I’ve reported many times, more sampling (more megapixels) starts to reveal just how strong or weak a lens is in all its aspects.

              The 24-120mm f/4 (current version) is right at my edge of usability on the D810. But when you start comparing it against the new 24-70mm f/2.8E you quickly see the f/4 lens’ weaknesses.

            • Proto

              So, will the current 85mm f 1.4 and 35mm f 1.4 and old 70 200 f2.8 VR– all suck at higher MP of D820? It will be very expensive then to get D820 then….

            • ITN

              Generally increasing pixel count improves image definition with any lens. In the worst case it would stay the same as it was on lower resolution cameras. This assumes we evaluate the image at the same final presentation size.

            • Thom Hogan

              Lenses are best at the center axis. What @disqus_adfIf9CrUH:disqus says below about increasing pixel count improving “definition” is absolutely true with most lenses at the center axis. (“definition” is in quotes because I don’t think he and I define the term the same.)

              What happens as you add pixel count is that you start seeing more clearly how a lens operates off axis. Coma, spherical aberration, and a host of other attributes show up more clearly as you move from center to the corners on a high pixel count camera. Field curvature, focus shift, and other attributes suddenly pop more easily into view.

      • 120_300 OS for nikon

        and making it in space grey as 100 yrs B Day

  • Integral Moments

    I do wish Nikon really jump into mirrorless and hope they do it in 2017 or at least they announce it. I love my D810 and D600 and I still own both along with some great glass. But I love the idea walking around with a small camera and use my glasses on it. Love talking all around FF camera for family vacations and dedicate my d810 for landscapes and studio works. I’m currently refusing to buy two in wishlist prime lenses just in case if consider switching to either sony ff or Fuji if they decide to introduce FF camera.

    24 or 28 MP IS more than enough for family and street photography and kinda of a sweet spot for me with decent autofocus for kids 🙂

    • DX mirrorless + maybe AF-P 24/2.8 pancake.

      • Koytch

        The Coolpix A is technically a DX mirrorless, but with a fixed 18.5/2.8 pancake (equiv to ~27mm/2.8) Very sharp lens and compact.

        • they should have continued that line

    • animalsbybarry

      Sony is expected to be releasing an A9 alike high resolution (60+ mp? ) FF mirrorless camera

      It would be nice if Nikon buys this sensor (compete with bells and whistles) and builds a comparable camera

      I recently say an available 43mp sensor, 35fps (available up to 180 FPS ) global electronic shutter
      Might make a good Nikon camera…I will post link separately because it will go to moderation

      • animalsbybarry
        • this sensor is not designed for photography – see the actual post ;

          aimed to high-end industrial testing, Film machine, aviation railway detection, astronomical applications and more
          aimed to biological microscopy, spectral Imaging, astronomical imaging and other areas.
          aimed to high-speed industrial testing, machine vision

      • this camera was “expected” to be released by now…. with 72MP… what happened?

        • animalsbybarry

          I don’t know

        • Allan

          T.I.M hasn’t finished testing it.

          • Proto

            his wife still has his lens in her purse

          • T.I.M

            I’m busy with my new Chinese bike.
            :o)

        • Thom Hogan

          I’ve never believed that the high resolution A comes next from Sony. The camera they need most is the A7III.

      • ZoetMB

        The Sony A9 at 24MP is already a $4500 body. What do you think the price would be at 60MP+, how much of a market would there be for it and what would its high-ISO performance be? The MF Leaf Credo 60MP back is $20,000. Let’s say because it’s a smaller sensor, Sony can do a 60MP A9 for $7500. How many of those would they sell? They’d be competing with Leica at that level and that’s a very small market.

        Will FF DSLRs and Mirrorless eventually get to 60MP? Sure, but only when they can be produced in yields that bring prices down. My prediction is that we see nothing else from Sony this year at the high end except perhaps for the next gen of the A7 line at the end of the year, and maybe not even that considering that Sony still has inventory on all six A7 bodies going back to the first release in 2013.

        Although mirrorless sales to date (April) are up 68% over last year, the combined DSLR/Mirrorless shipments for the first four months of the year are only about 3.7 million units worldwide. In 2012, it was 5.5 million for the first 4 months. Apple alone sells about 67 million iPhones in 4 months. DSLR/Mirrorless sales are tiny in comparison. You can’t keep on chopping up a market of only 3.7 million units by constantly releasing more models. There are going to be fewer (unless the variations can be made from the same parts) or some of these manufacturers are going to put themselves under.

        • animalsbybarry

          I do not know how much Sony will charge or what the exact specications will be
          When that info becomes known that will of course be part of the the decision as to whether or not I buy it

          Sony cameras have traditionally been less expensive than many of the competitors cameras

          I expect Sony is aware of the impact of too high a price and hopefully price will be competitive with D810/A7Rii/5DSR

          A mirrorless camera is less expensive to build than a DSLR….it would be difficult to justify and sustain a higher price than DSLR

          • “A mirrorless camera is less expensive to build than a DSLR”

            I know Thom Hogan keeps saying this, but is it true? Even quite expensive bridge cameras tend to have shitty EVFs precisely because building good ones is not cheap, and even the best EVFs leave quite a bit to be desired IMO. External EVFs are frequently as expensive as film SLRs used to be.

            • I agree, if they are cheaper to make, manufacturers are just making higher profits and are not passing the savings to the consumer.

            • Thom Hogan

              Yes, I’m pretty sure of this. Moreover, as the market shifts more and more towards mirrorless, the EVF versus optical aspect of the cameras will change in relative cost.

              The real gain at the moment for mirrorless is that they don’t require elaborate alignment procedures for lots of sub-modules. The only alignment step is the sensor assembly (with IS and shutter) with the mount. It’s a time, money, and number of people thing that DSLRs can’t avoid.

            • I totally buy this as a long term argument, but it’s like internal combustion vs electric. In theory electric cars are much simpler, cheaper, more maintainable, but 100 years of manufacturing expertise means we can still buy a Honda Fit for $18000 while a Chevy Bolt costs $40000. Mirrorless has greater relative penetration than Electric Cars but even car companies selling 100k units per year are having trouble driving down costs.

            • Weird. Disqus is losing my posts. No, I am proposing building the adapter into the mount. This is actually not what I want, it’s more of a reduction ad absurdum. Anyone who thinks Nikon needs to release a mirrorless body needs to explain how it would be more useful than something that let me use Nikon lenses with a smartphone (with little or no crop factor).

              What I would LIKE would be a Nikon body with the back stuff replaced with a slot that accepts iPhones or similar. But, only if it works better than the above (bear in mind).

          • Yes, so Sony and other mirrorless manufacturers decided to produce cheaper mirrorless cameras and sell them and higher prices? The latest MFT cameras are $2000! This also includes Nikon with their ridiculous pricing of the Nikon 1 cameras. In the mean time you can get the latest D3400 with a lens for $400: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1275032-REG/nikon_1571_d3400_dslr_camera_with.html/BI/2446/KBID/3285
            Like I said before, mirrorless is more marketing than anything else. Unless they can provide better features than a DSLR for a lower price, I am not interested.

          • Thom Hogan

            “Sony cameras have traditionally been less expensive than many of the competitors cameras.”

            That has been shifting fairly rapidly, and I expect it to continue to shift. Indeed, the more market share they take, the more the prices will rise, I think.

        • https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/

          If camera companies played to their strengths (lens, AF, etc.) and leveraged smartphones as complementary technology they might actually be thriving instead of dying.

          If the latest Apple photography announcements didn’t make camera execs shit blood then they need to retire and let someone with a clue do their jobs.

          You can buy Zeiss lenses for an iPhone now.

          • Thom Hogan

            It’s pretty clear that that software developer took introductory macro/micro courses ;~).

            Nikon already had the Harry Potter still effect in the original Nikon 1. Apple didn’t invent it. There’s plenty that the camera companies have done that shows—from time to time—that they get some aspect of the market.

            The real issue is as I’ve been reporting for more than a decade, though: the Internet changed the preferred workflow and cameras didn’t change with that. Curiously, we’re seeing more attention to this in video than stills. Why is it I can push video out with virtually no effort to CNN from my 4K video camera but I can’t push stills out to the NYT with my Nikon without jumping through lots of hurdles and hoops?

            • I have the Nikon 1 V1 — it’s not full resolution, it’s huge, it’s an annoying mode you get into accidentally, it’s not compatible with anything, it doesn’t get used with flash to give you both a natural and flash version of a shot.

        • That’s what they said about the D800, in the days of the D700. 😉

          Sony can easily take an A9, and put together slightly fewer FPS, and maybe the A7R2 AF system, …and charge $3K for it.

          • Thom Hogan

            It’s not quite that simple.

            • Admittedly, you’re right, they could DEFINITELY go the opposite direction and try to pull another D3X stunt.

              Although I think the days of $7999 flagship MSRP’s are thankfully gone forever, I would agree there’s a *slight* chance Sony will aim to trounce the D810 and Canon 5DsR, and price their A9R (or whatever) at…. oh wait, nevermind, even the 5DsR is “only” $3800. Damn.

              So I have to ask,what precedent is there for Sony to charge $4500, let alone MORE, for an A9R?

              Considering that the A9 is supposed to compete with cameras that cost $5-6K, I don’t see how there is a precedent for Sony to charge more than $3500 for an A9R.

              The buyers of high-end cameras have LONG complained about newer models totally under-cutting a previous model at a better price point. Nikon waited to debut the D700 until the D3 had sold like hotcakes for nearly a year straight, for this exact reason. Same thing with the D800: D700 sales were good enough, and Nikon knew they wanted to price the D800 similarly, so they waited…

              If anything the most difficult thing will in fact be to actually put the new camera together, and decide which A9 features to omit and which to dumb down, for the A9R. (Or, if enough features are omitted, I guess it’ll be called the A7R3?)

        • Thom Hogan

          That’s a tricky question to answer, as it involves yield versus R&D recovery. Clearly Sony has full frame yields in a good place right now, so it really depends if Sony is trying to make a high megapixel count camera with a huge bandwidth offload or not. 70mp at 3 fps is quite different than 70mp at 6 fps.

          But price isn’t important for an A9r. Sony is trying to create halo cameras now, and hoping they pull in people below that.

          As I noted elsewhere in this thread, now that we’ve got the high performance A9 at 24mp, what Sony really needs is the A7III at 24mp.

      • paige4o4

        Nikon actually has a really chance to one-up Sony when it comes to speed and high megapixels cameras. The A9 uses SD cards, which are going to suffer writing huge files. If Nikon made a D5x with dual XQD, it could easily outdo the Sony. Faster write speeds, more fps, larger buffer, etc.

        • Eugene O

          XQD is not even close as fast as DRAM in A9. What Nikon could actually invent is a buffer that doesn’t stop me from shooting when saving to memory card.

          • CERO

            Doesnt the A9 lock down when the buffer is full and wont allow you to shot ANYTHING until the buffer is clear? (which can take up to 5 minutes?)

    • decentrist

      Fuji is never doing FF

      • After the GFX, I have to agree with you. Now they just have to drive the prices even further down.

      • Dylan Wood

        No they will not. Given the image quality from the X-PRO2 and X-T2, they definitely don’t need a FF camera.

    • geofflivingston

      I still need a second body replacement for the Nikon system, but I plan on buying a Fuji X-T2 if Nikon doesn’t get it together and announce a viable mirrorless product. I,too, agree, and want a mirrorless product for walkabouts, travel, and fun. I will likely purchase a D750 if the D82/50 is just an evolution. That being said, the baby D5 may be interesting enough to get me if it corrects some of the limitations of the Df.

    • How would you rate Nikon’s chances in the mirrorless market? Be honest. Are they going to defeat M43, Sony, Canon, and Fujifilm?

      How about Nikon produce smartphone cases with metabones-style F-mount adapters (ideally, but not necessarily, with some kind of aperture control)?

      • Thom Hogan

        Nikon’s chances in the mirrorless market as just as good as anyone else’s. However, the longer it is until they introduce, the tougher sell they’ll have. It’s not just a product problem, it’s actually a bigger marketing problem.

        Not sure why you’d want to mount F-mount lenses on a smartphone. Every one of them would turn out to be telephoto, and you’re back to the small body, big lens handling issue that no one has figured out.

        • Metabones-style (per my post). I’m not sure how compact the optics could be made, but certainly theoretically possible.

          • Thom Hogan

            So you want to add the following to a smartphone:
            1. Case with F-mount (note that this case is going to be thicker than any existing ones).
            2. A Metabones type adapter to adjust field of view to the small sensor size.
            3. A Nikon F-mount lens.

            Sorry, but that is a monstrosity. Moreover, taking full frame down to the very small smartphone sensor size via #2 is going to problematic. A reverse 1.4x or 2x is doable, but we’re talking a reverse 4x or more here.

            Moreover, there’s a far simpler approach: just mount the smartphone on the dedicated camera and connect it properly. Write a new iOS app and new firmware that give you the best of both worlds (control camera from phone, control phone use for social media from camera).

            • No, the case with adapter is one integral piece. Why would I want it to be two pieces? This isn’t actually what I want – I want Nikon to replace the back of one of more of its bodies with a slot that accepts a smartphone. But my point is that the case I am suggesting, dumb as it is, is actually more useful than any mirrorless camera being proposed (and probably likely to sell better).

        • Metabones-style.

  • DrNo666

    200mm/2, 300mm/2.8 or 200-400mm?

    • Tadao_Isogai

      It’s just a guess, but I think it will be the 300 f/2.8. It’s in wide use in sports photography here in the US and would benefit, I think, from latest coatings and lens elements now in use by Nikon in the 400 f/2.8 and other recent releases.

      Personally, though, I’d like to see Nikon update the 200 f/2. I use the lens a lot outdoors and would love to see the impact of the latest Nikon coatings and elements.

    • T.I.M

      The AF-S 200mm f/2 VR is perfect and does not need any upgrade.

      • DrNo666

        Well its a great lens but it doesnt have E/FL technogy… perhaps it can get lighter after an upgrade.

        • T.I.M

          It’s not a heavy lens (for a guy) and it have a wonderful bokeh, so far my favorite Nikon portraits lens.
          It is also ULTRA sharp and stay sharp with x1.4 & x2 converters.
          To be honest, I owned that lens for 5 years and rarely needed the VR function.

          • DrNo666

            How many lenses weigh in at 3kg?

  • citrate

    So many cameras to be announced in one year window? Doubt it.

    • The D750 and the mirrorless could come in 2018, so not that many at all.

  • What does “summer 2017” really mean in terms of months? Early/mid/late July? August? I am looking for a second body in the d8x0 line and will have some expendable cash soon! 😉

    • Between now and September.

      • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

        Seems like a North Pole summer to me…

        • CERO

          Welcome to the magical world of random PR nosense..

  • Spy Black

    Let’s hope for one or possibly more anniversary surprises, otherwise things will be fairly bleak in Nikon Land. They need to pull at least one rabbit out of the hat.

    • Proto

      one rabbit went down the hole… Zeiss lawsuit

      • Spy Black

        That really put a dent in Apple v. Samsung, right?

  • eric

    Maybe they’ll release a film camera instead of the d820…

    • Marcelo Trad Nery

      A brand new D7…it would be just perfect.

      • MB

        You mean F7 …

    • ZoetMB

      Keep dreaming. You can still buy an F6 for $2195 (import model). What would an F7 do that the F6 doesn’t?

  • animalsbybarry

    It seems likely that the new Nikon D820 and the new Sony A7Tiii/A9 (name to be determined) will be coming out fairly close together

    It will be interesting to see how they compare with each other

    Since I have both systems I could go either way—- but Sony still needs long lenses

    • Barry, I seriously think you should pick one system and stick with it. My advice: Nikon 🙂

  • MB

    Nikon has never been more secretive about their plans…

    • That’s ok, I just hope that they do have a plan…

      • Azimuth1

        a plan? They need a miracle… they don’t have all the hi-tech stuff which is needed to make a pro mirrorless camera: no ibis, no dual pixel AF (or similar), no BSI or stacked sensors. Plus all their lenses, with the few exceptions of new E lenses, are ready for an electronic shutter. They have to go shopping… a lot!!!

        • Eric Calabros

          You really think they have no access to these things?
          I have a question: Sony got all the tech wizards you mentioned, why they can’t sell more than what they’re reporting every quarter?

          • Azimuth1

            Simply because Sony does not make real cameras, they make hi-tech gadgets toys, with the only exception of A9, which seems to be a real good camera. Sony excels at cmos technology, period. But I still believe Nikon has no direct access to these tech goodies!

            • Eric Calabros

              Aha.. you believe! So it doesn’t need evidence.

            • Mike A

              Azimuth –

              My toy A9, Native Sony GM Lenses, Metabones Converter and Canon L Lenses ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS my real D5 Camera & Nikkor Lenses…

            • Azimuth1

              Mike… was you able to read me? I wrote “with the only exception of A9″…

            • Michele Perillo

              do not feed the trolls

            • Mike A

              Hi Michele – I’m sorry I meant to delete my post as I don’t want to throw gas on to the debate here. I’m an old Nikon fan.

              I really want Nikon to get off their old tired a**es and start innovating, putting out great DX Lenses and continue the recent trend with fantastic FX Lenses…

        • Ushanas Trivedi

          I think Nikon is a good implementer rather than good innovator. If you look at Nikon history, they made some great cameras like Nikon SP, Nikon F, F4s, D1, D3, etc. & they were not first to introduce technology involved. Rather Nikon could put together existing tech to produce most practical & useful cameras. They are good at designing & producing cameras as a finished product instead of innovating tech in different components.

          • Proto

            They have innovated AND delivered best AF systems, best TTL system, cleanest high ISO, etc. Delivering effective end result – by using innovative components from others — is a valuable skill in itself.

            • Ushanas Trivedi

              I am in your side of opinion only. That is what I meant that it’s great skill to put out well rounded cameras with the help of already existing tech. SLRs were created in 30’s by Leica I guess but it’s Nikon who made first practical SLR in Nikon F. Similarly digital technology was around right from 70’s & again it was Nikon who made first useful & successful DSLR in D1 in 1999. I believe, Nikon has capabilities do something similar with Mirrorless. It’s an existing tech, but they can take it to another level as they have demonstrated several times before at least that’s what I hope for.

          • Allen_Wentz

            Matrix metering was a very cool innovation IIRC.

        • Andrew

          Two years ago on March 31, 2015, the Nikon 1 J5 Mirrorless camera became available. It shot photos at 20.8 MP with 1080/60p video. It came with a tilting touchscreen and full manual control. Now what about its performance? Continuous shooting at 20 fps with autofocus. That dual-pixel technology you are taking about is something Nikon’s technology just 2 years ago matched taking into consideration its scale for the smaller Nikon 1 mirrorless camera.

          Here is what DPReview had to say about the Nikon 1 J5: “The 1-series cameras have been a bit overlooked as, on paper, they have really impressive specs. The Hybrid Autofocus system continues to be state-of-the-art, and the J5’s ability to shoot continuously at 20 fps with full-time AF is stunning.”

          Nikon is a leader in low light (high ISO) image quality performance and their tiny 1-inch sensor (Nikon 1 J5) was rated at up to ISO 12,800 with clean low-light images with the impressive Nikon colors (and skin tones) Nikon is known for. Nikon definately has its sights on an APS-C or Full-frame mirrorless camera market. But how many people recognize that Nikon has its own dual-pixel technology called “Hybrid Autofocus System”?

          • Azimuth1

            So the reason why all this stuff hasn’t been implemented in _ANY_ DSRLs – APS or FF – remains to be explained. You would agree with me that i.e. in the video compart all Nikon cameras suffers from the lack of such Hybrid AF.. to say the least…

            • Andrew

              You are overlooking something quite fundamental; and that is when a new technology is developed, it needs to be fully tested and scaled. Companies would typically introduce a new technology in one product before a wider deployment. For example, Nikon just introduced the new Auto Picture Control (Tone Curve) in the D7500 but will be moved to the rest of their product line.

              Product development requires an elaborate engineering process which needs time. As I stated, 20 frames per second with full autofocus is quite significant. But for video the standard is at least 30 frames per second, and so apparently Nikon needed to develop a faster processor just like the current EXPEED 5 image processor which performs 30% faster than the EXPEED 4. And we do not know what engineering changes Nikon needs to make in order to adapt the Hybrid AF from their mirrorless cameras to FX and DX.

              With regards to your statement, you can say the same thing about Canon cameras that most of their products suffer from the fact that they do not have Dual-Pixel Autofocus except if you want to spend thousands of dollars. So what is your point? I am not responding to you to win an argument but to have a friendly discussion and to treat the issues more objectively. In addition, Nikon cameras have been used to “video” record professional TV shows.

              Nikon was the first to give us high-definition 1080/60p (i.e. 60 fps) video on a DSLR camera, but big deal, who cares! All that matters to me is that I am getting flagship D500 performance from their new D7500 camera at only $1,250. It is not about the money but the fact that I get a smaller and 35% lighter body than the D500. We should all realize that competition is good and that these cameras are an excuse for us to have friendly discussions 😉

            • Allen_Wentz

              No I would not agree, because I am not looking for video competence. I look for stills competence, and the D5/D500 are state-of-the-art.

            • Azimuth1

              Wrong. D5/D500 both lack of resolution for being state-of-the-art. And as being already proved that D810 without IBIS suffers we go back to the starting point: Nikon needs more tech in its products. Otherwise the next D820 with state-of-the-art AF will have the same problem D810 had.

          • BVS

            The Nikon 1 V1 did 20fps with AF back in 2011 I believe.

      • John Viscovich

        Yes me to Peter , Love Nikon , I’ve invested in good glass , unless the difference is light and day between other brands and Nikon , I’m staying black. surely they have listened to there customers and F mount works with there mirrorless FF

        • The more I think about it, the more I believe that Nikon will make a mirrorless camera with a Nikon F-mount.

          • Robert Falconer

            I agree. I think they pretty much have to if they want to leverage one of their greatest assets in a competitive mirrorless marketplace: their extensive lens inventory. How to do that and make the camera future proof and able to use lenses of new designs going forward (specifically for mirrorless) is the real trick.

            Either way, I think mirrorless is now crucial for Nikon after the arrival of the Sony A9. If for no other reason than “perception”. Rightly or wrongly it now appears as though Sony is eclipsing Nikon technologically, and the A9 does indeed appear to be the first mirrorless camera that can match the D5/D500 for overall combined AF performance, and in some aspects even best them. Does mirrorless outperform DSLRs overall? No, not really. But in some respects size and weight (when using smaller lenses), silent operation, the advantages of a good EVF to preview exposure, white balance, etc AHEAD of making the photo (instead of afterwards), and IBIS are all things many photographers are coming to appreciate more and more in a variety of shooting circumstances.

            So Nikon can no more ignore this “perception” than they can ignore customer service … and do so at their own peril, IMHO.

            Like Steve McQueen said in Bullitt: “Time starts now.”

          • nwcs

            They should do that. I always thought that would be their best choice. I know some people say mirrorless is all about size but to me it’s not. It is about other things. Perfect thing would be an OVF/EVF hybrid. That would be very compelling to me.

            • yes, and they should try to fit a bigger sensor inside the Nikon 1 mount.

            • nwcs

              They have a lot of options to really improve the 1 series. I hope they actually try and do it well.

  • Ric of The LBC

    Nycon is the best.

  • Mehdi R

    45 days 🙂

  • Shield Block

    What to expect next from Nikon

    bankruptcy

    • Eric Calabros

      Clever prediction.

    • I can bet that at least two, maybe even three other compiles will go belly up before Nikon.

      • Allan

        Compiles?

        • Proto

          he meant Comey

          • Allan

            lol

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            No, he meant covfefe

        • cofveve… autocorrect, should be companies

    • ToastyFlake

      Have you looked at their balance sheet? They are a long, long, distance from bankruptcy.

      • Yes, they are in a good financial health, but this is the whole idea of spreading fake news and as you can see, it works – some people really think Nikon is dead…

        • Chewbacca

          I think will take one serious mirrorless release from Nikon and Canon to negate Sony’s last 8 years of a head start.

      • Thom Hogan

        Yes, very true. However, I would point out that we’ve seen balance sheets in Japan that looked really good right up until a close and thorough audit revealed what was really going on. It’s not a zero percent chance that the Nikon numbers that are reported are not actually indicative of their business.

  • Eric Calabros

    Need to realize? Dude they’ve been making mirrorless cameras for years.. any P&S camera out there is mirrorless. Realize what?

  • Please keep in mind that this is your own opinion, there many other opinions out there.

  • Mr_Miyagi

    Like you, I shoot both systems (plus MFT), so I am on the fence. I will likely buy whichever camera is released first, either the A7RIII or the D8?0, barring any major negative change in the specs from what rumors have been speculating recently. Down the road, I’ll pick up the other camera, and that will be where I’ll sit for the next few years as I fill out my choice of lenses. Either camera will be a technological marvel, which makes this a great time to be into photography.

  • T.I.M

    I’m broke so nothing good will be announced until I get some cash again (I almost had to sell my 400mm f/2.8)
    I hope Nikon will release a 500mm f/4 E PF (the 300mm PF is excellent)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7fd1c2e27667d50480dc9fabd334cb821df58a187522d311a58faefe002d9548.jpg

    • Max

      Stop selling your lenses now

  • eric

    Nikon is still better than fuji and sony despite what some people keep saying on here. Switching mid-level systems isn’t very bright. If you’re going to switch away from Nikon might as well upgrade to Leica or Hasselblad.

    • Agree 100%

    • Spy Black

      What professional shoots with a Leica?

      • John Viscovich

        I have tried looking for answer about Leica, ive asked camera stores, whats so good about Leica , why so expensive. They just keep saying build quality . WTF . please somebody tell me why people say they are best camera in the world , but ive never seen any pros use one.

        • They are not the best, just different. Now, Leica lenses could probably be the best in the world if you don’t mind manual focus. Keep in mind that Leica has now turned into a luxury brand. They are also the smallest full frame camera system available today if anyone cares about size, but all Leica cameras and lenses are heavy.

          • Spy Black
            • Lol:)

            • Spy Black

              That was really a jab at those that proclaim cameras like the D750 are “too small”…

          • Thylmuc

            The Leica S System and the SL have autofocus. They are modern cameras. Incidently, a used Leica S2 is at this moment in time one of the cheapest ways to get into digital medium format, At least if you happen to have some lenses that can be adapted (and a lot can). Price for the body alone is now under 4000 USD, and most are still in good condition, with only a few thousend frames taken.

            When you look at the MTF charts, it is clear that the Leica lenses will be expensive, and the price is justifiable.

            • Yes I agree, I was mainly talking about the M system.

        • ZoetMB

          Because Leica is quite expensive and pros have to rationalize a return on investment. Pros don’t need great design – they need robustness and practicality. However, if you pick up a Leica what you will see is fit, finish and machining that is quite extraordinary, If you’re one who appreciates great design, you’ll drool over a Leica.

          There’s another factor and that’s a psychological one: pro photographers need to walk into an assignment with equipment that doesn’t look like equipment that an amateur would own. Otherwise the client thinks, “l have a camera like that – what am I paying for – I could have done this myself” which has become especially true in the digital age. Now obviously, there’s far more to photography than the equipment used, but it’s client perceptions that matter. While the Leica is an amazingly beautiful camera, if a pro walks in with a Leica, it looks like it could be a consumer camera. Back in the days when pros shot medium or large format, this wasn’t an issue – the average person didn’t think they were going to buy a 4×5 Graflex, etc.

          Having said that, I would never buy a Leica. I think one has to be nuts to spend $7500 on a body and $4000 on a typical lens, but for people for whom money doesn’t matter, more power to them. Although if someone spends $30K on a car, we don’t think anything of it. They spend that amount on camera equipment and we think they’re nuts. So in the end, “different strokes for different folks.”

          • Or $30,000 on a boat.

            • That must be a small boat 🙂 Some spend a fortune on a boat…

            • Yeah, forgot the plus sign…in bold and 36pt font. lol

            • Add some zeros. No Leica shooter would be caught dead in a $30K boat, LOL. 😛

      • eric

        An award winning professional.

        • Spy Black

          So you can count them on one finger?…

        • ToastyFlake

          An award wining professional, with no name?

      • Hans98Ko

        Dame Jane Morris Goodall DBE, formerly Baroness Jane van
        Lawick-Goodall, is a British primatologist, ethologist, anthropologist,
        and UN Messenger of Peace.
        Also shoot for National Geographic programs on many occasions.

        • Spy Black

          Right, so you can count them all on one hand.

      • RC Jenkins

        Here’s a breakdown of the camera brands of winners of the World Press Photo awards 2017 (for 2016 photos):

        https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2017/02/topcamerabrands.jpg

        And here are the individual cameras:
        https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2017/02/cameramodelss.jpg

        At least 1 winner is using a Leica… 🙂 But yes, a very small minority.

        Personally, I don’t think “Nikon is still better than fuji and sony…or Leica or Hasselblad” but nor is it worse. All of these systems have pros & cons, and I have several systems (including FF Nikons & Fuji X from this list) because of these pros & cons. Each camera aligns to different shooting scenarios.

        It really depends on what you’re ‘switching’ from & why. If you’ve got a D5xxx and already have long, fast lenses and want to do better just for sports & action, a D500 would be perfect. But if you want better sports & action as well as portraits or general shooting, Fuji could very well be the logical move. Because Fuji makes fast, high quality lenses; most of which are better than Nikon’s DX lenses today. Fuji has plenty of F/1.4, F/2, F/2.8 lenses that Nikon simply doesn’t have–it concentrates on mid-high level products; while Nikon DX mainly doesn’t. And in this scenario, going FX means buying new lenses & bodies anyway, most of which end up being large & expensive.

        So that blanket statement of “switching mid-level systems isn’t very bright” just doesn’t sound well thought out to me.

        • 8% for Fuji but Sony is not even present? I am surprised.

          • RC Jenkins

            Here are links to the winner articles for the past few years. Always just interesting to see this anecdotal data.

            2017:
            -https://petapixel.com/2017/02/16/cameras-captured-winning-shots-world-press-photo-2017/

            2016:
            -https://petapixel.com/2016/02/19/here-are-the-cameras-that-won-world-press-photo-2016/

            2015:
            -https://petapixel.com/2015/02/17/breakdown-cameras-captured-winning-images-world-press-photo-2015/

            • Interesting, so in 2015 which was just two years ago, it was basically only Nikon and Canon. Things changed quick in just two years.

  • What did you get?

    • Hans98Ko

      Not sure yet. Only just arrived and will be given a presentation before going around testing the new cameras, we will only be given the goody bag at the end of the session. Just announced that they will start in 5 minutes time. Will let you know once I get it, and maybe send you a snapshot of the goody bag.

    • Hans98Ko

      Pete, anyway to send you an email with an enclosed phone photo?

        • Hans98Ko

          I had tried sending the pictures taken by my phone and got a statement saying the file size is too large. Well, will have try it later when I get back this evening.
          As for the goody bag, I will send a picture to have some fun. ☺️

          • zzzxtreme

            Upload photos to a google drive folder. Then you just share the folder link to peter

            • Fly Moon

              +1
              Or DropBox, Box or OneDrive. Lots of options!

          • Hans98Ko

            There are about 80 or so invited guests this morning and there is another session this afternoon.
            So far I would say the D7500 is a very capable camera comparing to the D500, even though minus a couple of features. This is definitely a good backup for those using the D500. A very portable camera for travelers, and especially for female photographers due to the smooth surface and compact size. Not having a battery grip would not be a problem for these groups of photographers, and is actually a blessing with less gaps for dust & moisture to get in. Even without the grip the D7500 fires off very smoothly in continuous mode using the gifted SanDisk Ultra 16GB 48MB/s SD card, and also is very quiet.
            As for video shooters, this camera has variable aperture with 1/3 stops for G lenses and 1/8 of a stop for E lenses. Definitely will improve on the exposure especially with E lenses.
            I would leave the more serious testing to other testers due to the amount of time each were given and everyone wanting to try out. Also the lighting was very hash with the morning sun coming at an oddward angle shooting water sport. Making fine tuning very difficult or almost impossible. What you can’t see you can’t fix. Definitely would need more time to better understand this camera better.

          • You can upload a picture also here in the comments.

  • D700s

    Girly men these days. I want a tiny camera to walk around with. Get a Chihuahua to go with it. Reading the comments makes me laugh. Sony A9 is the end all camera. I wish I could say I’ve pushed my current cameras beyond their capabilities. My photography hasn’t suffered one bit due to my Nikons. My photography suffers from my lack of creativity. But alas we must have mirrorless or we’ll just quit. Gimme a break. Stop the whining and threats. If you’re so inclined to switch then join the corresponding forum and leave us alone. Take your Sony and go. Have a nice day….

    • Max

      I realise this isn’t true for everyone else, but I want a smaller camera not because I’m girly but because I literally take it with me everywhere, everyday, even when I go on lunch break.
      I already have a x100s (along with my Nikon gear), but I’m still a Nikon fan and wish they made a similar product that I can fit in a pocket.

      • Hans98Ko

        But we all do have a phone 24/7 all the time, even when we are sh!tting. How often one brings a camera to the toilet? LOL

        • Max

          I’ve gotten some keepers with the phone, but I will shit better at the toilet with viewfinder, controls and larger sensor.

          • Hans98Ko

            Me too! But must be OVF or HVF.

    • Fly Moon

      Totally. I followed the hype and bought a Sony A7R2 last year in addition to my Nikon gear.
      I sold it after 3 months with a huge loss (yes, they do depreciate faster than Nikon and Canon).

      The main reason I got rid of it, was it’s too small! I’d prefer if they made the A9 bigger but I will wait for what Nikon make for us.

    • Rolf

      Small size is good when weight n size are issues. I appreciated them when I did multiday hiking trips down to bottom of Grand Canyon, nepal n Patagonia. Normally I prefer slightly bigger bodies.

    • ZoetMB

      Call me a girly man, but I am really tired of walking around with a heavy, packed camera bag. Decades ago, when I couldn’t afford anything much, walking around with a Nikkormat or Olympus OM-1 and a quite small 50mm and nothing else was quite easy. But today, my ‘normal’ bag has 4 lenses and I usually want them all with me because I never know what I’m going to want to use when I’m in a particular situation and we all know how large and heavy the fast AF zooms have become. If I’m shooting in a place where I can put my bag down (like a music show or event), no problem, but on a long walk outdoors, it’s a real pain.

      I recently took a European trip and due to limitations on carry-on weight that was strictly enforced, I had to leave a lot of my bag contents at home. The limit was 10Kg (22 lbs.) Even carrying 20 lbs. was a pain. I’d love lighter and smaller equipment.

      And that’s aside from issues like getting far better AF during action and movement or better video for those who care about video. So I don’t see myself switching to Sony, but does the Sony (and presumably others) have some features and capabilities that I’d like? Sure.

      • I read this with great interest. I’m planning a Europe trip and thinking about what I want to take. You said 20 lbs would be a pain. No kidding. I have NO intention of carrying anything near that. I shoot with a Df. I like being able to change aperture the old fashioned way…with the aperture ring. So, my lenses are mostly “D” models. I have a few G lenses for local, commercial assignments. But, I like my Ds for the aperture ring AND, they are small and weigh next to nothing. The argument that the IQ isn’t that good is BS. They are just fine. If the images are compelling in their own right, no one will notice that the corners are a little soft, or whatever else you might see…at 100%. Anyway, I think the set will include the 20mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8. That whole kit, in a bag, will weigh around five and a half pounds. I’m considering swapping the 70-200mm f/4 for the 85mm, but I’m not sure I want to do without the soft backgrounds I can get with the 85. No way I’ll take both. I want to enjoy my trip and not have that much stuff swinging off my shoulder.

        • John Albino

          In May 2006 my wife and I spent a vacation week in Berlin, Germany. We’re from the East Coast US, but had to fly up to Newark to get a non-stop flight to Berlin.

          At the time I had 3 DSLRs — D2H, D70, and D100. I took the D2H and D70, but only three lenses: 17-35 f2.8D AF-S, 70-200 f2.8G AF-S VR I, and 85 f1.8D AF. Add in chargers for each camera and a spare battery each plus plenty of CF cards and a small laptop for nightly data transfer and a SB-800 plus AA charger and spare batteries.

          It all fit into a rolling backpack bag along with a smaller daily carry-bag, and a set of spare underwear (in case our checked baggage got delayed). Probably wouldn’t be allowed on-board now, but then they let me put it in the overhead bin.

          We walked all over Berlin. My wife carried the SB-800 in her purse, and occasionally the D70 with 17-35; I carried the D2H with 70-200 and spare cards. I didn’t feel particularly EXTRA tired at the end of each day, but I WAS a lot younger then…

          I got lots of great shots, but as my wife said later: “NEVER Again!” would she allow me to take that much weight on a vacation trip! 🙂

          • You nailed it, John, I want to remain married to this one. I’m 63 so, forget even dragging all that around on wheels. AND, I’m too old to go out and find a new wife (not to mention I don’t have enough money to afford to get rid of this one). Seriously, though, I didn’t add in a charger and extra battery, although I wouldn’t carry those during the day necessarily. The battery on the Df is small, but surprisingly high capacity. I can shoot all day on one charge. And, lucky for me in terms of travel, I’m partial to primes. I only use a zoom to shoot corporate events and stuff like that.

            • John Albino

              I ended up not needing the spare batteries, so they stayed in the hotel with the chargers. As did the rolling backpack. Charged the batteries at night. The smaller camera bag essentially also was my “purse” to hold miscellaneous small stuff not necessarily photo-related, like maps, brochures, daily souvenirs, trinkets etc. (I was “only” 61 during the Berlin trip and in pretty good walking shape.)

              The reason I took the chargers and a spare battery for each camera was because a couple years earlier we spent a week in San Diego and I took the D2H and the D100. I didn’t plan on using the D100 all that much, so took it with no charger and only one battery. During the flight out there, the D100 power switch got turned on, pressed down, and exhausted the battery. With no charger and no spare I only had the D2H to use.

            • …but dragged the D100 from hotel to airport to hotel, etc, nonetheless! 🙂 I like the Df (maybe other newer cameras do this as well), but, if the switch is left ON, the camera turns off after no activity for a while. That’s saved me more than once.

        • Nikos Skartsilas

          If a friend could lend you a 35 mm, skip the 28 and 50. Keep the 20mm for wide.

          • Yes, I have a 35mm f/2D as well and have considered using that. Then I’d be down to three lenses and even less weight. I’m going on another trip closer to home soon and will take those three and see if they satisfy my needs.

        • Max

          Leave all that glass and just take the 50.

          • There IS some merit to that suggestion.

            • Max

              You’ll make amazing photos with it.

            • Oh, I make amazing photos with ALL my lenses, Max…:-).

    • paige4o4

      “Girly men these days.”

      What century are we in again? Is it really still an insult to call someone feminine?

      • Chinky

        If they are a man, then yes.

        • paige4o4

          What’s wrong with it exactly?

          • Chinky

            There’s nothing feminine about a male wanting a smaller camera nor is it masculine for a female to carry a large camera. It is called “preference” of tools to use to take photos.

            But for men to act (or dress) as women and vice versa is RETARDED, period. Just because it has become accepted doesn’t mean it’s not insane. Learn history to see what insane things humans have believed in and practiced because of the herd mentality.

            The results of distorted thinking leads to self mutilation of body parts, depression and regression of society.

            Everyone is exactly what they were born with, nothing else.

            • paige4o4

              Wait, so people can have a preference for cameras, but not clothes?

            • Chinky

              Did I say people can’t have a
              preference for cloths? Sure they can. But just s we need to act with appropriate manners and social skills we need to dress appropriately, according to our genders, as well.

              Those who don’t act appropriately as befits normal human beings are obviously lacking in emotional and mental stability just as are those who want to go to dress in the opposite gender’s cloths, use the the opposite gender’s bathrooms , or actually be the gender they are not. They are mentally and emotionally unstable.

    • Chewbacca

      I was on vacation recently. I witnessed a ridiculously sized tour boat park in Halifax. Tons of tourists got off the boat and many men were carrying full frame kits and the whole shabang. One guy literally ran past me in a frenzy during mid day sun in poor lighting and his D4 or whatever and his 24-70mm. He walked up spent absolutely no time framing a wilting flower in a pot and then went along his manly way.
      my point is that weight and size have nothing to do with much. I’ve seen very talented people using a mixture of equipment. It’s a great time to be into photography with all of the choices out there.

  • jake337

    DF2 please!

  • Visual Envy

    My question is why is the D750 still not available anywhere? Even after the recent sale the D810 is still in stock even though it was reported to have stopped production…. could the D750 production line have halted or down scaled too? Maybe it’s a sign…

    Maybe Nikon has flushed it’s stock too early due to the amazing deal of $1500 for a D750 while the D810 remains in stock because it is slightly out of reach for most… also knowing an announcement is looming to pull the trigger (that’s me). Maybe Nikon need to go one further and put the D810 to $1999.

    Anyway.. all that just to say maybe we get the D7x0 and D8x0 plus a new kit lens for them which will be say a 28-135 f4 or a new lens like a 400mm f4 PF for hopefully no more that $2999.

    2c

    • paige4o4

      A new 24-120 would an excellent lens to refresh. Make it sharper and lighter, with a PF design? Since they have the 70-200 f/4 and 300/4, they could maybe give it a less extreme focal range, and instead try to nail optical performance.

      Even a 24-70 f/4 VR would be welcome

      • Alain

        or a 24-85/105mm f4, as long as they make it better than the current 24-120mm f4 (less distortion, smoother zoom ring and wider focus ring for video guys like me!

    • Alain

      A good 28-135mm f4 would be a great zoom range for general purpose photography! If it were better than the current 24-120 f4, I would place an order right now! Would be great for video too as long as the zoom ring were not as stiff as on the 24-120mm 😉

      But my dream lens would definitely be the 55-300mm f2.8-4 patented in 2012. Could it be launched now with the 135mm f2 also patented in 2012… this is a mystery!

    • flaker

      The d750 was just on a huge sale for the past month.

      I still got one from Nikon in 4 days and one from Adorama in 5 days.

  • Michiel953

    I still believe we’ll have a surprise on July 25.

  • Michiel953

    Nikon’s turning out to be pretty good at keeping things secret. Re D500 and more recently the 28/1.4E.

    • That is true, even though there were some D500 reports prior to the announcement, just no details or pictures were leaked, not even by the Japanese sites.
      I reported about the new 28mm lens “just” a few days before the announcement, but yes – it was a surprise.
      Nikon has laid off many people and has cut many marketing materials, promotions, etc – it is normal to see less leaks. Nikon did not really get better in keeping secrets, they are just much less people now that know the secrets.

  • Alain

    Of course the FX 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR is certainly on the road for an upgrade but is this what we expect for a 100th anniversary! No, definitely not! People expect new stuff!
    What about that 55-300mm f2.8-4 patented in 2012! This could be a great zoom! Nikon had an excellent 50-300mm f4.5 ED decades ago… Why not reintroducing a winner! The focal range would be great for general purpose, sports and video!

    • John Albino

      A buddy of mine had one of those 50-300mm f4.5 ED lenses back in the ’70s. I borrowed it a couple times, and as I recall the IQ was outstanding for the time. Would be curious to see how it would perform on a Dxxx of today if anyone could find one.

  • Gaonkar

    As per my friends, Sony has pathetic service for their Camera & Photography camera products. One guy had to wait for more than 3 months to get his gear serviced. He sold all his Sony kit at loss & shifted back to Nikon.

    • whisky

      from my own recollections, this was the way Sony operated for decades before they got into still cameras. they’d put everything up front into making “the sale”. superior design and technology, but after sales service was abysmal. it’s like customer service ended at the point of sale.

      fast forward to the acquisition of the Minolta foundry, Sony did appear to step up their game in customer relations — a very welcome development. yet from multiple sources, i now sense, Sony’s returning back to their old, but familiar tactics. it could just be a temporary cost-cutting measure, but old habits die hard. JMO.

      • Chris

        Whoever bought into Sony’s story are generally too young to know this.

        • John Albino

          OTOH, there are a lot of us old enough to remember when Nikon was repped in the U.S. by EPOI (Ehrenreich Photo-Optical Inc) and Nikon service in the U.S. was legendarily GREAT. After Joe Ehrenreich died and Nikon took over ownership of U.S. distribution and service is when things started slipping downhill… and it seemed Nikon listened less and less to what customers wanted.

          • Chris

            It’s not they listened less. They still listen to major distributors. Those distributors knows you less than before.

        • Just wait until Sony realizes they can no longer make profit in the camera market…. remember Nikon has been around for 100 years.

    • Same thing with Nikon (In Belgium), after 3 month the SAV have return my D750 and it was not repair. I have to wait another 2 months to have a working D750. I think, all brand cut in the after sale side, when you need after sale you have already buy for the product… It don’t give any money to the brand (in short term vision).

  • ZoetMB

    Have you used the A9? Because there are a lot of complaints out there about the camera overheating and battery life. I’ve also heard complaints about the quality of the mounts on Sony’s lenses. So I don’t know about outperforming any DSLR. There are still many advantages to DSLRs as well as many advantages to mirrorless. It’s a matter of the right tool for the job.

    For me personally, the biggest advantage to a mirrorless would be size and weight, and I do smile when I pick up an A7 at a trade show or retailer, but you stick a big lens on mirrorless and you’re back in DSLR territory. The Sony GM 24-70 is 1.953 pounds, the Nikon G is 1.98 (although the E is 2.4 lbs). The GM 70-200 is 3.6 lbs, the Nikon is 3.98 lbs. The GM 85 1.4 is 1.8 lbs, the Nikon is 1.3. And it’s not like Sony is inexpensive. Personally, I think all the DSLR/Mirrorless manufacturers are pricing themselves out of the mass market and it’s only going to get worse as units drop.

    • animalsbybarry

      Without going into more detail, both the battery life and overheating issues have been greatly exaggerated

      Firmware will reduce the incidence off the temperature warning light, and use of a battery grip will totally eliminate any overheating issues at all

      Battery life with the new battery is good

      And silent shutter, no blackout, extremely fast burst , extremely fast autofocus are features no current DSLR can match

      I am not buying A9 because I do not want a 24mp FF but I am very interested in the high res version

      The lack of long lenses for Sony concerns me greatly….and unless that situation gets resolved Sony will never be a real camera system.

      • All that tech you like and cannot live without and you are not buying it? And you recently bought a D810 (or was it D500)? I have no other comments 🙂

      • Thom Hogan

        Clearly you’re not an engineer, Barry. Heat doesn’t go away because you move the batteries. The shutter/sensor/IS system has a ton of heat-producing issues. Sony is pushing at the forefront there. The thing that is worrisome is that heat excites electrons and increases sensor-based noise.

    • animalsbybarry

      The general market model is supply and demand
      As demand decreases prices generally decrease

      The camera market is attempting to go against market common sense

      Ever increasing camera prices in a decreasing market is simply not sustainable

    • Edison Firme

      I own an a9, sold the D4s after a week. I shoot dance, so I don’t need lenses longer than 200mm. The trinity 2.8 zooms are perfect, which Sony will complete next month. I actually think small bodies are not comfortable. I would like a big flagship DSLR body but mirrorless.

  • “there is absolutely no doubt that mirrorless is the future”

    The SLR has a fundamental advantage over mirrorless that is nowhere near being addressed.

    The dynamic range of the world is typically well-in-excess of 14-bits (brightness of the sky vs. brightness of the light reflected from your “pro” camera body). Sensors struggle to deliver 14-bits of dynamic range. Displays struggle to display 10-bits of dynamic range. Ten years ago, it was 12-bits and 8-bits. So for me to be able to look through a view finder and see something even vaguely “real” we need another similar improvement in sensors and displays, but both are improving more slowly not more quickly.

    • Thom Hogan

      Yes, true, but I wouldn’t dismiss this outright like you do. Thing is, anything that’s a semiconductor improves over time. Your choice of speed, quality, or cost (or a balance of them).

      If EVFs are the thing that clearly holds back mirrorless, that’s where the R&D will go to fix that. With volume of whatever is produced, price goes down. That’s not true of prisms and mirrors in the same manner.

      • I didn’t dismiss anything outright, I merely point out that ten years of progress fixed less than half of the problem and that’s just dynamic range, not resolution or frame rate (and the highest resolution EVFs still look grainy to me). We know what EVFs need to do to achieve parity, and I don’t doubt they’ll get there, but don’t hold your breath.

        By the time we get there, will we need interchangeable lenses?

  • I’m curious as to what the native low ISO will be on the 820/850. Will it remain at 100 like on the 800 and 810 or possibly drop to 64 or even 50? That would be nice for portrait and landscape photographers to have finer detail in their images. Also what image processor is expected to be in the camera? The Expeed 5 that is in the D5 or possibly the new Expeed 6? There is so much we would like to see about the new camera, but so little information is being released. I do understand that at this point it is all just rumors, but someone must know a little more than what is being said right now.

    • Michiel953

      It’s 64 on the 810, 100 on the 800/E.

    • RC Jenkins

      The D810 has a base ISO of 64.

      I’d expect an Expeed 5. Nikon typically only rolls out new processors in their ‘sports’ flagships, like the D3, D4, D5, etc. I wouldn’t expect Expeed 6 until the D6.

  • Brett A. Wheeler

    Sony Rumors? Thought this was Nikon Rumors…

  • Chinky

    I see you have the d500 and the a6300. I just bought the d500 as a replacement for the d750 because I needed exposure lock that the d500 has and the d750 doesn’t and also more focus points than the d750 had. I’m very happy with the high ISO and dynamic range capabilities of the d500 and will use it as my main camera when I shoot weddings and events.

    Now I have two d750s. I want to know whether I can use the Sony a6000 and 16-70 Zeiss lens (I recently bought for travel and personal use) as a backup to the d500 and sell both d750s or keep one d750 as a backup camera. In other words, is the Sony a6000 capable of shooting a few hundred to over a thousand pics in jpeg+raw at 7-8 hour weddings?

    • animalsbybarry

      In my opinion the D500 is the best APSC camera currently available

      • Chinky

        I know. I think the IQ of the d500 is as good as the d750. But my question was whether I can use for weddings the a6000 as a backup to the d500 or I should keep the d750 as a backup (I’d prefer to sell the d750 as I anyway use the a6000 for travel and I won’t use the d750 at all- it will just be in my camera bag as backup to the d500).

      • I agree, I cannot think of another “pro” APC-C camera (ok, Canon got one but that’s it).

  • Edward Lorenzo

    If I were still earning from photography I would be interested. As it is I’m already overspent on all things photography.

    What’s next:
    More MP’s
    Another jab at mirrorless
    More incremental changes here and there

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    1. Better video in every way is what will move the needle… invent some BS marketing term for IBIS but have it and it should at least work as well.

    2. As some said: new design language (just need to hire the right, established, highly regarded industrial design company!) no Japanese influence here pls! Think Lexus! The old guard should shut up about this.

    3. Hope they consolidate the line more!!!!! One thing right than 100,000 mediocre things. Think of the iPhone.

    • SBVR: Sensor-Based Vibration Reduction.

      • Edward Lorenzo

        Turbo VR with Triclosan

  • Thylmuc

    What about tha rumor that Nikon intends to rethink its camera business? The above list is merely a continuation of what they did for years, marginal improvements model-by-model. Still new compact cameras, despite this area reaching an end, due to smartphones. No shift to more expensive cameras with a higher margin. well….

    • I have not heard anything indicating any major changes in what Nikon is doing. Now this doesn’t mean there are no changes, I just have not heard anything.

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