Nikon to announce replacements for the Coolpix AW130 and P900 cameras (125x zoom!)


Here is the promised update on the upcoming four Nikon cameras:

  • One of the expected four cameras will be a replacement for the Nikon Coolpix P900 and it will feature a monster 125x zoom or 24-3000mm equivalent (the current P900 "only" has a 83x zoom)
  • The second camera will be a replacement for the Nikon Coolpix AW130
  • Only one of the four cameras will a DSLR: the Nikon D7500
  • Still now 100% sure about the fourth camera - most likely it will be another Coolpix model
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  • Stuart Crowther

    24-3000mm wow, might buy one for shits and giggles.

    • Ken

      My dad wants to buy a new camera and a telescope, so I guess I will buy him a P950 instead.

      • Eric Calabros

        I’ve always thought Ken buy cameras for his kids.

        • Thom Hogan

          Only if Barbie lets him…

        • Ken

          Why? They eat them

    • Yes, same here – this will be a fun camera. I hope they add RAW support.

      • guibo

        I think you might be disappointed with RAW output, my guess is there is a lot of corrections applied to make up for poor optics. RAW would expose this uncorrected.

      • Gregory Roane

        Also, you don’t really gain that much over the P900 in reach. We are only talking about .6m x .4m FOV decrease at 100 meters.

        • Andrew

          I’m not sure; when you add crop to reach, that is quite a bit of zoom.

      • Stuart Crowther

        Yes, I heard that no RAW was a deal breaker for a lot of people with the p900.

  • Nick

    admin does that mean no 810 replacement this year?

    • NikonFanboy

      WE all doubt that. I hope they will replace it in june or sept this year. Very looking forward for it:)

    • CurtG

      Probably should read “still NOT 100%”,
      Either way I personally doubt they will go another 6 months without a D810 successor.

      • NikonFanboy

        i hope you are 100% true:)

    • No, I believe the D810 replacement is still coming this year, but it will probably not be part of the next announcement.

      • Nick

        Thanks Peter!

      • doobster

        This one sentence is all that is keeping me from buying a D810 right now. Thank you Peter.

      • Spy Black

        Although it’s anyone’s guess, considering what appears to be the case with the D7500, they may instead release a D750 replacement with a D5 sensor.

  • BVS

    Awesome! I can finally photograph a speck of dust on the back of a flea biting the rump of a yak from a mile away! 😉

    Seriously though, how big is that lens going to be? The P900 is already pretty big. Or did they just make the aperture smaller?

    • nwcs

      It’s a small sensor. So probably just a bit bigger lens but not too much. Most likely they traded off optical quality even more as the P900 did with a lot more jpeg processing.

      • Andrew

        Not going to happen. Nikon will not sacrifice optics for gimmicks. The P900 set a new standard for optics among super-zoom cameras and no other competitor comes close. My Panasonic 60x zoom camera was disappointing (which I bought about 3 years ago). And besides, the lens on this camera is massive and includes professional quality optics.

        • nwcs

          For a consumer grade product, Nikon will absolutely sacrifice some optics for gimmicks. It won’t be terrible but it’s certainly going to only be average glass at best. And have you looked at some of their coolpix cameras before? Many examples of lame glass.

          • Andrew

            The macro performance of the Nikon P900 (83x Optical Zoom) camera shows extremely good detail. The geometric distortion is impressive with practically no distortion at normal distance. And wide angle shots show less than 0.1% pincushion distortion. The JPEG images have very low chromatic aberration because Nikon is using their professional ED (Extra-low Dispersion) glass lens in the P900.

            The P900 is a $600 Ultra-Zoom camera and not a cheap $200 Coolpix. The P900 is highly rated everywhere and the coming 125x upgrade should perform similarly.

            • nwcs

              If the quality is that good on such a small sensor why do they not have raw files available? There’s a lot of processing involved. And we know that 2/3″ sensors aren’t that impressive.

  • TwoStrayCats

    I guess we keep waiting.

    • Jack Fisher

      more zoom more trouble, I guess it is not easy to release a super zoom camera.

  • Adam Brown

    D7500 is good news….. but seriously, no full frame on the horizon?
    I understand slowing down iterations, but the d810 really is due. Falling behind competition between the 5div, 5ds, a7rii…
    Not to mention it’s the 100th Anniversary. Really not going to make a splash beyond commemorative kits??

    • sandy

      I think there are more months in the year.

      • Adam Brown

        Yes, but this will take us through at least June….

    • Baloo

      what’s wrong about D810?

      • Adam Brown

        What’s wrong with the D3x?

        Or D2?

  • Michiel953

    125x zoom. Hold steady that hand………………… Time to pop a few beta blockers.

  • Winslow H

    If for nothing else than public perception, I think that Nikon’s next substantial announcement (it has been awhile) needs to NOT be a Coolpix camera. Especially after cancelling the DL series.

    • Bob Thane

      I dunno, the D5 and D500 came out not too long ago, and made a huge splash. I’d say the majority of people will still see Nikon in a favourable light from that, even if they don’t come out with a new full frame camera until next year.

      Now, I’d love to see a D810 successor this year. But if it takes a bit more time to really make it worthwhile, then that’s fine by me.

      • Thom Hogan

        “Not too long ago” is now 15 months. In the intervening time Canon, Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony have all announced big splash products that pins Nikon a little tighter in their box.

        Nikon also was essentially a no show at all of the big photography shows they attended (!) in that time frame: Photokina, PhotoPlus, CES, and CP+. Not sure why you’d spend the millions necessary to attend those shows and come with no new story to tell your user base when everyone else is. To the user browsing the Internet, printed media, going to shows, looking at dealer promotions, etc., Nikon has gone mostly silent and withdrawn even more away from their customers.

        A Coolpix with a 125x zoom won’t do anything to change their perception. Indeed, it can be damaging if people start saying “compact cameras are going away but Nikon keeps making more of them.” Or: “Nikon is only making novelty cameras now” (e.g. 360°, 125x zoom, etc.).

        Getting your business optics aligned right with your current and desired customers is tough. Even Apple has troubles doing it from time to time (witness Mac Pro). But each ticking month of silence from Nikon in fixing their optics problem is hurting them. I can literally track people taking money they had earmarked for a possible new Nikon product and instead investing it in something like a Fujifilm X-T2. Or in the case of the D810 successor, the GFX looks like it’s sucking in a few, too, despite the 2+x cost.

        In Silicon Valley we’d say this if we were Nikon: it’s fire drill time. Only it’s not a drill. All hands on deck, all hoses deployed, all fires ID’d and strategies to put them out ASAP. No exceptions.

        • Bryan Szucs

          This is dead on! I am in a holding pattern awaiting a new D850 (whatever it’s name will be) and I know quite a few people who already jumped over to Sony. Even if Nikon is restructuring or whatever it is they are doing the silence is deafening. They really should make some announcement of their plans or announce a new DSLR as soon as possible.

          • Mr_Miyagi

            Ditto. I will buy the successor to either the D810 or the A7RII, whichever one is released first. They are both excellent cameras that suit my needs, and so will their successors. I’m willing to make the tradeoff between the “Nikon look” and the advantages to me of mirrorless.

        • ITN

          Long zoom point and shoots sell comparatively well (not as much affected by smartphones as the small compact camera), Nikon has mentioned this before. It is clear that this type of a camera and the smartphone have very different applications and it is difficult to see how any smartphone camera could do this in the future, either. If I’m not mistaken, the P900 was in short supply. So I don’t see why making a new model in the series would be in conflict (perceived or otherwise) with what Nikon have said.

          • Thom Hogan

            I’d put that slightly differently: long zoom PS continues to sell enough to justify and isn’t seeing the 30-50% volume dropoffs of other compacts, but it is seeing volume dropoff.

            P900 was in short supply because Nikon didn’t think it would sell that well ;~). Now they’re doubling down. But the latest Canon long zoom PS fits in your pocket. So people are really going to have to want 3000mm.

            • Gregory Roane

              That is something that kills me about the zoom…

              The difference between a 2000mm and a 3000mm at 100m is miniscule; only a .6m x .4m FOV decrease (1.2m x .8m, actual at 3000mm). Yes, 3000mm SOUNDS great, but big numbers only give you small deltas…

              You really have to want that extra little bit if you already own the P900 and are going to upgrade.

            • Persuasive Illusion

              That is like saying the difference between 200 and 300 mm isn’t that great, or between 400 and 600mm… , it’s just a ratio. It gives the same deltas if the numbers are big or small. If the same MP count is used, then you will 2.25 as many pixels on target (200vs300 2000vs3000 or 400vs600). So there is potential in resolving more details…, How much more you actually gain is to be seen.

              A much better argument against this camera is that when photographing at long distances (100m+), you are definitely gonna see diminished returns due to the atmospheric conditions at play. If you are just enlarging fuzziness , you get more fuzziness , so you might as wel just enlarge from 2000 to 3000 and stare at similar fuzziness?

            • Gregory Roane

              No, what I am saying is that the reduced FOV provided by a zoom diminishes logarithmically the higher the zoom number, regardless of ratio. 20mm to 30mm provides a 72 foot reduction (diagonally) in FOV at 100 feet. 200mm to 300mm only provides a 7.2 foot reduction in FOV. And, 2000mm to 3000mm only provides a .72 foot reduction in FOV.

              I am just saying is that if you already own a P900, you REALLY have to want an effective gain in zoom of 8 inches @ 100ft to upgrade.

            • Persuasive Illusion

              Thats pretty irrelevant, it’s the same Percentage GAIN…..

              from 20 to 30mm is 2.25 as many pixels ‘on target’
              from 200 to 300 is 2.25 as many …..
              from 2000 to 3000 is 2.25 as many …

              It’s exactly the same % wise gains in reach, from 2 to 3, from 20 to 30, from 200 to 300 and from 2000 to 3000, all (1.5^2) =2.25 as many pixels on target (i.e a bird)

              So yeah , 3000mm gives you 2.25 as many pixels on target compared to 2000mm , just like 300mm gives you 2.25 as many pixels on target compared to 200.

              The FOV difference is obviously also exactly the same in all situations (percentage wise.) otherwise how can you get 2.25 as many pixels on target.

              That the gain is less in absolute numbers is irrelevant, sorry.

            • Baloo

              it is still a factor of 1.5 in both directions. Be it at 100m or at 100km. Whether you really want that — depends on your photography habits and dreams.

            • Andrew

              I have not been impressed with Canon super zoom cameras (though I have never owned one – disclaimer). Their optical quality was poor compared with Nikon’s based upon sample photos. That surprised me because Canon makes good optics. In the case of Panasonic, I purchased an excellent 16x zoom camera years ago and an awful 60x zoom which was simply a marketing gimmick. So now they have lost a customer! I also had a similar experience with Olympus, one excellent compact camera and one awful camera. I just hope that the Nikon P910 (or P950) will be as good as the P900. With SLR, I stick with Nikon.

        • manattan

          “I can literally track people taking money they had earmarked for a possible new Nikon product and instead investing it in something like a Fujifilm X-T2.”
          LOL. Renting the XT-2 next week to try it out.

          • Thom Hogan

            Right. This isn’t a random thing that’s happening. Nikon DX type buyers are looking around, seeing only a D500 that seems interesting and modern (and no DX lenses, buzz, buzz), and trying to figure out what makes the most sense for them, and it’s almost always Fujifilm. Particularly because of the lenses.

            Fujifilm fixes and adds dozens of things to a firmware release, Nikon adds “made SnapBridge more stable.”

            • manattan

              I already have a D500 (and D810 for that matter when IQ is critical instead of speed), and contrary to what you write I really am mostly satisfied with my Nikon (FX) lenses although there are some holes… like a lenscap-style pancake prime and a PF tiny zoom for travel would be greatly appreciated.

              But what is really driving me to experiment outside the Canikon duopoly is the extended shooting flexibility that the e-shutter in a mirrorless camera affords over the noisy shutters in DSLRs. Maybe I am in a minority, but I challenge you to search Youtube for terms like “shutter sound” or “electronic shutter”, etc. and see for yourself.

            • Thom Hogan

              And have you tried your D500 in Live View with an AF-P lens? ;~)

              Silly that Nikon marketing can’t answer your concern.

            • manattan

              @thomhogan:disqus As far as I have read, only the D5 can take pictures with a fully electronic shutter in LV, and that the D500 still relied on the mechanical shutter opening and closing to take photos. I agree with you that it would be great if Nikon would update the D500 to mirror the silent live view photography of the D5. Why they have not done so, or why Canon can’t put in an e-shutter into their M5 is beyond my understanding.

            • Thom Hogan

              It’s pretty darned quiet. And it doesn’t provide you the increased noise that the global shutter solutions give you right now.

        • BVS

          When the D500 was released I felt for a while that Nikon was going all in / all hands on deck. They seemingly threw every bit of tech they had and every trick up their sleeves into making the most awesome camera possible. It was like they were saying “we’re not going down without a fight”. Unfortunately, they never followed up (so far) and haven’t kept the momentum going.

          • Thom Hogan

            It’s difficult to say what exactly is going on. However much we speak ill of Nikon I will give them credit for having made some bold moves (KeyMission, DL at least until cancelled, D5/D500 combo, etc.). The problem I keep seeing is that those bold moves seem to be driven from internal misunderstanding of what’s happening in imaging. Trying to drive customers to product is much more difficult than driving product to customers, if you get my drift.

            • Sawyerspadre

              Interestingly, Snapbridge is actually a VERY GOOD idea, if they implemented it well. If they had scored with it, they would actually be perceived as having a clue about the direction of imaging.

              If they also created a cool “real cameras, real images” kind of marketing that actually told consumers why they want a better camera than the smartphone, and how easy it is to share, with the well-implemented Snapbridge….

            • Yes, it is – I remember reading an interview recently, I believe it was with Panasonic, and they wanted to implement something similar. So yes, Nikon is not really behind.

            • Thom Hogan

              Absolutely. I was someone who suggested something along those lines to Nikon execs in 2010. The idea to have a simple, always connected bridge to the smartphone is correct.

              It’s the implementation that sucks. Moreover, we actually went a step backward from the D7200’s internal WMU implementation. I prefer sending to the smartphone from my D7200 over my D500 because of that.

            • Andrew

              Agreed, with their bold move Nikon has also given us an underwater camera, a projector camera, and an Android camera. And let us not forget the Nikon 1. But at least their ultra zoom P900 is really distinguishing itself from the crowd and has given Nikon an upscale status in the zoom market. Next comes Mirrorless …

            • Thom Hogan

              You seem to miss the line “seem to be driven from internal misunderstanding of what’s happening in imaging.”

              I’ve been in the tech business and a close watcher of it for over 40 years now. The companies that don’t correct their internal misunderstandings of the market are now long gone, despite being bold in trying to push new products out the door. Nikon is now trending that direction.

              Short version: full credit for trying, but trying the wrong things.

        • Matthew Fulghum

          Yeah, this is pretty much me. Been waiting on a compelling 1V{N} to replace my V1 for a couple of years now, and bought a used X-M1 to play with in the meantime. I _really_ like the Fuji. The cheap, but optically good Mitakon focal reducer allows me to use all my Nikon glass, and the XF and XC lenses are all outstanding too. If they release a new V, I’ll certainly look at it, especially if it supports USB tethering like the V3 (the 1 series are ideal for astrophotography apart from that lack), but it’ll have to be pretty good to make me give up the X-M1.

        • Andrew

          Thom, I can’t believe I am agreeing with you. Dropping the DL Series was a big disappointment! But at least I can pickup the P910 (or P950) 125x zoom when it is released as my Panasonic 60x zoom was a big disappointment. The D7200 (or D7500) is another definite buy as it will come with a lot of the D500 goodies. I am sure you will be one of the first to pick it up for your safari trips though I cannot imagine you also going to one without the P950 if the optics holds up 😉

    • Sawyerspadre

      Would a Coolpix ever be a “substantial” announcement? NOT

  • Fly Moon

    I am curious. Is there more demand for AW130 than would’ve been for DL cameras?

    • Eric Calabros

      Maybe, if they put a 1 inch sensor or even bigger behind a fixed lens. a waterproof CoolpixA. But they won’t.

    • Thom Hogan

      Nikon did not say that just demand was why they cancelled DL. It was the intersection of demand and cost, or essentially their expected ROI.

      Frankly, I don’t believe that story. It makes no sense, and doesn’t agree with my data. I doubt the ROI on DL was negative, and at this point Nikon needs products that tide them over, so any ROI positive product should be released.

      • ITN

        I think it’s likely they just couldn’t get the cameras to work correctly and felt the market was falling so quickly that it would not be worth spending more resources on this project.

        • Thom Hogan

          That’s quite possible. But if true, that’s a scarier problem than the one they have. Nikon hasn’t ever had true technical failures in designing cameras before. That they would this time, working with a sensor they’ve used before and with tools they already deploy elsewhere in the lineup says something frightening about Nikon. So let’s hope you’re not right.

        • hje

          I heard that rumor, too.
          (With the difference that it was their supplier who couldn’t deliver the promised quality.)

      • Allen_Wentz

        Just releasing any product forecast to have positive ROI is not enough. I would suggest that Nikon needs a balanced, cohesive set of camera lines that meld well into the expected (changing) market space of the next decade and utilizing expected available resources of the next decade.

        Bringing a totally new line into a rapidly shrinking market is a high-risk move. Perhaps the DL line would have used too many resources (yen, engineering, manufacturing, etc.) moving forward with a questionable ROI.

        My hope is that Nikon realized its lack of market-research competence and decided to hold back on major new directions until after a change of Nikon’s culture and structure to facilitate really understanding the market.

        Upgrades of solid known products like D7xxx, D8xx, AW series, P9xx, and routine lenses can all keep Nikon moving forward without moving into risky new directions during a rapidly shrinking market.

        • Sawyerspadre

          I don’t know if I agree. Nikon is not present in the “better” Compact market, and their Mirrorless offering is dead. The DLs could have finally given them some cred in compacts.

        • Thom Hogan

          Okay, you got me. I overstated a bit. But my point remains: the DL would have filled a gap in the Nikon lineup, so if it had a positive ROI, it should have been released.

          But I’d go further and say that in some cases, even a negative ROI might have to be tolerated to fix the Nikon lineup in ways that lock in the user loyalty.

          The question to ask is this: does Nikon have the right lineup of cameras right now? Right lineup in terms of the current market, right lineup in terms of customer satisfaction, right lineup in terms of market protection.

          The answer I’d say is a very clear no.

          As for bringing a new line into a rapidly shrinking market, might I mention KeyMission? ;~) The fact that Nikon did not know that the action cam market was already saturated but went ahead and launched aggressively into it tells me that the product management team is 100% disconnected from the reality on the ground. But the fact that Nikon did not know that the DLs probably would have done decently is also problematic in that sense.

          The expected updates (D7xxx, D8xx, D7xx, AW, Pxxx) aren’t going to help Nikon. The D8xx and D7xx, done right, will hold serve in full frame, but full frame DSLR isn’t Nikon’s problem. I’ve already documented the on-going decline in the D90->D7xxx sales levels, and do you really expect a camera that will reverse that? I don’t.

          Nikon’s problems are two-fold: mirrorless and consumer DX. That’s where they’re losing their market share. The longer that those two are left in the current state, the bigger Nikon’s recovery problem is going to be. The DL cancellation and the non-update D3400 basically told everyone that below the D500 and full frame, Nikon has no plan. That’s super dangerous.

  • animalsbybarry

    I would rather see the 7.5-600mm f2.8-6.3 lens on a 1″ sensor 20-1620mm equivalent) than a P900 replacement with a smaller sensor

    • Thom Hogan

      No doubt.

      Strangely, having started the whole 1″ thing with the Nikon 1, Nikon now seems to have walked away from 1″. I don’t understand that.

      • animalsbybarry

        If this rumor is correct this is a very sad day for Nikon

        After all the bad news and bad publicity for Nikon they really need a winner to restore confidence…. but none of the cameras in this rumor are winners

        The long awaited D810 replacement (D820) is what Nikon really needs at this time, this group of cameras will do nothing to restore anybody’s confidence in Nikon

        • ITN

          Previously people claimed it was the D300s’s successor that was badly needed to restore Nikon to success. The D500 was launched and Nikon had their worst year financially in a long time. Perhaps they should have worked on the D810’s successor instead, if what you say is true. It’s not like they have resources to make every imaginable product and update it twice a year.

      • Captain Megaton

        There are two distinct markets. One segment will pay $800 for the CX70-300 lens and be thankful for it, the other segment demands to pay no more than $450 for xx~600mm superzoom. The latter you give them a 1/2.5″ P&S, while the former was supposed to be catered to by the DL24-500 but in practical terms is already owned by the RX10 and FZ2000.

        • Thom Hogan

          Okay, let’s say that’s true. Let’s take it the logical extension. That means that Nikon is pursuing people who don’t have much in the way of demands other than to keep things cheap. They’re still pursuing the true mass consumer buying on price as opposed to the experienced enthusiast looking for quality.

          I would argue that’s exactly what got Nikon into the position they’re in. Over pursuit of consumer when it was clear to many of us analyzing the market that there was saturation already there and decline inevitable. Meanwhile overlooking the enthusiast market in which Nikon established itself.

          I’ll say it again: the DL cancellation was wrong if it was done because Nikon thought ROI would be low, their public statement on this. The ROI on the P900 followup isn’t going to be better, and it pursues the wrong customer. Nikon’s market share is collapsing not because consumers are going away, it’s because enthusiasts are going away. Sony has done more to abandon their consumer cameras than Nikon, and their market share isn’t collapsing. That should tell you something.

          • Captain Megaton

            I think Nikon is correct and that yes, superzoom consumers are price sensitive and there is a much, much bigger market for the $500 superzoom than the $1000 superzoom. i.e. it’s easier to pull a profit on the P900 than it would have with the DL24-500. More importantly the P900 series has been well received and is generally considered to lead that segment, while the DL24-500 was always going to be a distant 3rd vs. the established Sony and Panasonic models.

            • Thom Hogan

              Again, I’m not seeing superzoom compacts doing anything other than declining in sales. Nikon’s only claim to fame there is “more x than the competitor.” 125x versus 90x attracts a truly unsophisticated user for the most part. Is that what Nikon really needs to do right now?

    • Tieu Ngao

      The DL24-500 is already quite big. I don’t think it’s practical to have 1000mm equivalent on 1″ sensor.

  • Eric Calabros

    They better put the world’s best image stabilization system inside this thing. With only 0.7° horizontal angle of view at the long end, every myocyte of your body tissue should stop vibrating.

  • Vincent

    Let’s see if those morons forget RAW once again in P950

    • I think “forget” is not the word to use here. Omitted would be appropriate.

      • silmasan

        Hehe, funny that you chose that word to correct, not the one before. 😀

        • You sure have something there.

    • Allen_Wentz

      I do not know what the cost issues are as regards including RAW data availability into the system, or if it is just a matter of market positioning.

      Certainly if Nikon makes NEFs available then Nikon also must maintain a publicly available RAW converter for that camera, and given Nikon’s gross incompetence at consumer software that may actually be a big deal.

      • David

        Someone above made the point that there are probably so many corrections going on that RAW wouldn’t be that much of an improvement.

  • maxx

    wow… :-I

  • CaMeRa QuEsT

    Weird, both the AW130 and the P900 are made in Indonesia. Seeing that Nikon has listed the V3 as discontinued, that 2nd Chinese Nikon should be the V4 (or is it going to be V5?).

    • silmasan

      Oh well everything makes sense now!
      D7500
      V5
      P950
      AW150

  • big bawi

    the image quality of those cameras is completely crap. i honestly dont udnerstand why people buy them. colors are crap, contrast is crap, the images just come out dull and horrible to look at. my dad’s sx60 gives me eye cancer when i look at the images it produces. seriously, isnt it just simpler to buy a d3300??

    • Bob Thane

      The sx60 is a Canon, which is apparently worse than the previous sx50, and significantly worse than the p900. Of course a p900 won’t take as good stills as a D3300 given the equivalent lens, but how much is a 1333mm lens going to cost for the D3300?

      • big bawi

        are you seriously saying that? you’d have more detail with a 70-300 lens on a d3300 than that “1300mm” lens on that tiny sensor.

        • Bob Thane

          I would disagree with that, having used the D3300 and 70-300.

          Maybe the D3300 and 200-500, but that might be cutting it.

          But even if the D3300+70-300 produced more detail, that’s still significantly more expensive than the P900.

    • It’s the zoom, it can be a lot of fun – see come of the videos in the link I mentioned in the post

  • Chewbacca

    It has to be true. Nikon management has been abducted by extraterrestrials with a bad sense of humor. Invasion of the Nikon snatchers in full swing.

  • sandy

    The P900 is an extremely popular camera and sells well. This one will too. The forum at DPR is pretty positive. You guys are looking at this from and advanced amateur standpoint. And considering what they are, the IQ is pretty good. I have seen some moonshots that rival more expensive equipment. I’m not in the market, but if it brings in some cash, why not. They are going to really have to do something special to make me upgrade my D750.

  • saywhatuwill

    I was going to get the P900 but I guess I’ll just wait now. I do want one of those mega-zooms just for fun. 3000mm. Man, let that sink in. That’s more magnification than a Celestron 11″ cat.

    • big bawi

      not really… “magnification”. no. you only crop the image with that tiny sensor. the low quality glass cant even resolve enough detail for that sensor.

    • nwcs

      More focal length? Maybe but I guarantee that Celestron will resolve a heck of a lot better by orders of magnitude.

      • saywhatuwill

        It’s all about aperture and magnification. I used to know the formula for determining the maximum magnification for a certain aperture size. The Celestron will meet that demand easily. The Nikon…not so much, but it’s still fun. I could imagine the compressed atmosphere getting in the way of sharp photos.

        • nwcs

          That and slow lens/noisy sensor. I mean you could put it on a Celestron AVX and with some luck get a decent pic with enough hours of integration. Still, I do like the novelty of the camera. It would be fun for certain situations.

  • Ryan

    I know the P900 was a bit slow and had a small sensor but I still thought it to be impressive in its features. I wouldn’t mind buying this upgraded version! Not easy dragging around a D810 with teleconverter and 300 F4D for causal wildlife.

    • silmasan

      causal wildlife

      Is that a term for animals making out in the wild? 😀 I kid i kid

      • Ryan

        Didn’t think it was so obvious! 😉

    • Spy Black

      A bit slow? My P340 dusts it…

  • Wasn’t too far off in my guess 😛

    http://disq.us/p/1hmf9xy

  • br0xibear

    There are a few interesing things people may have missed on the 100th Anniversary site.
    They have a “we love Nikon” section where Nikon “interview” and get the views of Nikon photographers. They’ve only posted one so far, but it does have some interesting parts…I was going to say “easter eggs” but I’ll let you decide that for yourselves.
    The first one is with a photographer they refer to as “Mr. Braczko”, Peter Braczko who wrote a Nikon equipment book.

    “Q: This year, Nikon will be celebrating its 100th anniversary. What expectations do you have for Nikon, and what kind of products would you like to see?
    A: I am content with the cameras up until now, but I’m sure there is always room for improvement. For instance, cameras could be a bit more compact, lighter, and quieter. How about a much smaller D5? But I imagine that Nikon is already aware of the needs and will introduce new products, which will keep all of us – both professionals and amateurs – happy.”

    “Q: Message to Nikon on the company’s 100th anniversary
    A: The only thing is, keep up the good work. And, let it suffice to say that Nikon should listen to the words of professionals, always be aware of the trends and continue to try to take these into account. It doesn’t have to happen quickly. Why? That’s because Nikon products have to be reliable, and the company has to continue developing a wide range of equipment. If Nikon continues down this path, then the company will be endeared for another 100 years.”

    http://www.nikon.com/100th/welovenikon01

    • Michiel953

      Yeah, that book. Good post Br0xibear.

  • :-)

    Hope of an Coolpix A replacement

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      Shame Nikon a) cancelled the DL Series b) did not produce a DL series 2-3 years ago….

  • Spy Black

    “…will feature a monster 125x zoom or 24-3000mm equivalent (the current P900 “only” has a 83x zoom)”

    So before you could zoom right in on the moon, now you can get really personal and zoom in on Uranus…

    • Aldo

      I dont think I’d want to see uranus that close… I dont think I want to see it a all.

  • Mr_Miyagi

    Last year I bought the AW130 as a pocketable back-up to my Nikon 1 AW1 for underwater photography, but I quickly returned it because the control buttons were too stiff to activate them, indeed given their design almost painful to push. It was as if Nikon had never tested a prototype in action in the water.

  • big bawi

    you took a shot of the moon. who didnt. i did it when i was a kid with my sx10, but the difference is, i grew up.

    • Your comments reminds me of somebody I banned recently and your account is just a few days old. There is no need to be mean here. Consider yourself warned.

      • Member

        Thanks a lot. Quality control is a good thing.

        • I don’t want to put any names here, but I think I know who that style of commenting belongs too – somebody I have banned multiple times here and he keeps coming back….

          • Chewbacca

            Cut the kid a break. I’d be a little disgruntled too if my first camera was an SX10.

    • Spy Black
      • I already warned him for his comments. I think I know how this will end.

    • Max

      I’ve never taken a shot of the moon. I don’t own any long lenses. If I had a p900 I’m sure I would. I guess I never grew up.

    • Gregory Roane
      • big bawi

        lol you guys took me a bit too seriously. chill xD.

        and what are you trying to show with this image? so you took a shot of the moon. so what?? its not even half impressive and i can find much better than this on google images.

        • Michael Foley

          What’s the point of a zoom with that much magnification if it makes an image that soft? I’d rather have a sharper, faster lens with a little less magnification. This is camera is just a marketing ploy as usual.

          • big bawi

            its not called magnification… its not. the lens magnifies the light, not the sensor, and in this case that camera has such “magnification” because the sensor is very small.

  • Eric

    Here’s another for you. Recently I sold some Nikon gear at a huge store who’s name I will not mention, and the owner during the conversation informed me that he was not getting another D750 because “I know what’s coming” and he would wait for the “baby D5.” It kind of slipped out of his mouth, but considering some of the Nikon rumors these days, perhaps there’s some truth to it.

    • TwoStrayCats

      Was that Mr. B or Mr. H?

    • Laud Farter

      D5:D500: Baby D5; D3; D300; D700? Thom Hogan has recently discussed about a true D700 update finally. That would be very nice, but very late, just like the D300 update. All the momentum and energy from the D3/D300/D700 are mostly gone, and likely not coming back anytime soon (shrinking market, competing tech, aging population, etc.). Whoever masterminded the past 5-6 years of product strategy at Nikon hopefully has taken the early retirement package.

  • Mehdi R

    Can’t wait to see D7500 🙂
    Announcement imminent? 🙂

  • hje

    If I were nikon
    and if I wouldn’t need to earn money (you see it’s going to be a little hypothetical)

    I would announce a pretty amazing and mind blowing camera
    on March 31th 2018 … with a smirk

  • Aldo

    You know nothing magical is going to happen going from a d810 to a d850… I wonder how many people asking for the d850 will actually go and buy one? Same with the d750. I think right now it’s the best time to invest in quality glass, not new bodies, especially if you don’t currently own many good lenses.

    • mariusvr

      Magic will happen, but the question is when. I will buy a d810 replacement immediately. Would be smart to do this from nikon point of view as they can sell units full price again rather than at heavy discounts due to the replacement being overdue. I am not buying anything nikon atm as there have been sensor improvement since the last 4 years

      • Aldo

        But what kind of magic? I just dont see how.

        • Bob Thane

          Exactly. People say they’ll buy the next thing, but then they say there’s no sensor improvement so they don’t actually buy. Even if it had a BSI sensor and 50+ megapixels they’d say – eh, it’s not that much better than the D810.

          We love to see new stuff announced, we hate paying for it.

          • mariusvr

            The d500 is excellent, but i want to upgrade to fx. D750 and d810 are end of cycle products despite being excellent cameras. The d800 is more than 5 years old (same sensor as in d810). Improvement in sensor technology has been discussed by much smarter people on this forun before. For me it is just i don’t want to buy a 5 year old camera that is overdue to be replaced. Therefore i am stretching out my existing equipment. Result for nikon is less sales by people holding off (like me). In order to push the existing lineup nikon is reducing price a lot. Less sales and less profit is the end result.

            • Bob Thane

              Fair enough, yeah. If you don’t need it now, totally makes sense to see what the next camera is.

            • Spy Black

              People get lost in numbers. My D600 still serves me perfectly well for the vast majority of the shooting I do with it. The AF in low light is it’s weak point, but it’s “5 year old” sensor still kicks ass.

            • Ric of The LBC

              Good enough. +1

            • Dylan Wood

              Actually Nikon just raised the price of the D750 in Canada on Saturday. They also raised the price of the D5600 and D7100 and D7200. I don’t think the D810 went up but body only is still $3400 CAD

        • Spy Black

          Unicorns.

    • Spy Black

      I suspect the D750 update is going to get the “D7500 treatment” and they’ll put the D5 sensor in it.

      • David

        The problem with that is that the D5 sensor I thought gives up a stop or more to the 24mp sensor at base/low ISOs. Hopefully you could retune the sensor slightly. Point being it’s not a guaranteed improvement.

    • Ric of The LBC

      I won’t be upgrading. I’m at the “good enough” stage and will be for several more years.

      I fantasize about NAS. Do a little bit of NMFAS but can not because for kids nearing college.

    • TwoStrayCats

      Sure it could happen. But I happen to know that magic costs about $1K per increment. How much magic do you want?

    • Allen_Wentz

      Not a lot of magic necessary for me. The existing D810 sensor in a D500 body but with dual XQD and GPS would do fine.

      It is all about the body for me. Which is the reason that I do not own a D8xx already. Put all the magic possible into the existing D8xx body and I will either stick with my D3/D500 combo as is or spring for a D5 maybe.

  • DrNo666

    Nikon has several dslr that start to be really old…d610, d750,df,d7200 and d810.

    • big bawi

      thanks for stating a known fact..

      • Gregory Roane

        …And that doesn’t constitute “contributing.”

        • big bawi

          and your comment is really helpful, thanks.

        • yes, this is trolling, nothing else

  • Joris

    So many nice new lenses and no new full frame camera… I believe we had the D7000, D7100, 7200 and soon 7500 for the lifespan of the D750 or D810 -_-

    • Bob Thane

      Ha, it might feel that way, but the D7100 came out before either the D750 or the D810.

      • And D500 would be on his list too…As a D810 owner I really don’t feel neglected, some new features and video abilities would be great, but i’m not aching for a D8XX unless they give me better video focusing like zebra stripes 8k downscaled to 4k video etc.

        D500 has staved off that want for now.

        • Bob Thane

          Yeah, the D810 is still, in my opinion, the best all arounder DSLR out there. Definitely not perfect, and not king of the hill for every spec, but a real dependable workhorse.

          • I think im at about 400k shutter actuations and zero flaws, been dependable just as you say – once had a huge chunk of snow blower into the lens mount/mirror box and it’s still fine, plenty of blowing snow and rain as well.

        • Bruno

          The D810 has zebra stripes but the 8k Downscaled would be lovely

      • Sawyerspadre

        And the D7000 was at least two years before the D7100.

  • Sawyerspadre

    Keep in mind that you only have to register cameras that have an RF radio for Bluetooth or wifi. If they introduce a new D8xx and market a nice expensive, but separate, wife dongle, you can launch it and not tip your hand by registering it.

    • David

      Will it only come in a set package with the wife dongle? My girlfriend might not let me buy an 850 then.

  • Christopher J. May

    At some point, no matter how good the lens is and how steady the VR is, atmospheric distortion is going to kill any kind of image quality. 3000mm equivalent is probably well past that point.

    Hint, Nikon: the era of bigger numbers is passing. It’s time to focus on other areas of camera design. I sincerely hope that you’re not committing R&D money to figuring out how to make a 24-4000mm with the next iteration of this camera…

  • Davo

    Actually I’m not surprised at all the AW and superzoom P&S are still receiving updates. These are two refuges from the smartphone onslaught.
    Superzooms are impractical on smartphones whilst computational imaging cannot substitute focal length.
    And whilst smartphones can be built tough and water resistant etc. they are just too valuable and/or troublesome to loose in harsher shooting conditions so an AW model still makes sense.
    AW models should have larger sensors though. No reason these P&S should just use small sensors.

  • Tieu Ngao

    Thanks for the info.
    I’d rather buy something in the range 600-1000mm on 1″ sensor than the P900 or P1000.

  • raphaelzydek.de

    Yawn.

  • James Jackson

    Cmon give us the good shit already

    • MY OB

      ROTFL

  • Thom Hogan

    In a crude way, yes. I’ll still claim that SnapBridge seems more like an intern project than a concerted software effort. Moreover, the whole menu system is now a mess that virtually no one understands the interactions of all those SETUP menu options.

    Besides listening, you also need to think.

  • Jack Fisher

    It is a rumor but I don’t belive it. What would be the point of making a camera like this? Will it be able to focus and can you make a steady picture? I belive 2000mm zoom is something they will not attempt to beat in a long time. Making a camera thjat just zoom in and have unsharp picture quality makes no sense.

    • I think they will – let wait and see.

    • James Michael

      They would need to do some kind of magic to get sharp pictures at the long end. It could be a marketing gimmick where it is really only good to 90x, and the rest is garbage.

  • I bought one just to play with. The 2000mm is crazy. I had to almost cast the camera in concrete to prevent my breath from causing the camera to shake. The main issues I had were shimmers in the city streets and the pretty bad noise at medium ISO and higher. Hope the P910 has a smaller resolution with larger sites and better circuits for a cleaner shot.

  • Ethol Don

    Nikon P1000 to Feature 125X Optical Zoom when i get that

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