Nikon D850 accessories


B&H created a new dedicated page with some of the available Nikon D850 camera accessories (see the official Nikon D850 accessories chart above).


Several readers have reported that the prices of XQD memory cards has started to go up and some models are already out of stock since the D850 was announced (check availability at Adorama and Amazon)


RRS announced new plates for the Nikon D850 (check also B&H listings).


D850 pre-orders: B&H | Adorama | Amazon | BuyDig | WEX | Jessops
Facebook: Nikon D850 Page | Nikon D850 Group
Additional coverage: Nikon D850 directory

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  • Fly Moon

    I have a 64GB XQD but thinking getting a new 128GB

    • Proto

      Nikon put XQD in D850 — so you will buy D900 : ) when XQD has zero manufacturers from current count of one.

      • Fly Moon

        Don’t care.

  • At amazon the príce íncreased from 84 to 99.

    • Spy Black

      This is why we need an XQD to SD adapter.

      • MB

        Or Sandisk and Transcend to start making XQD cards … and Sony actually embrace them in their cameras 🙂

        • Spy Black

          Considering Sony didn’t use it on their flagship camera, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one, and why would SanDisk or Transcend want to invest in a dead-end format?

          • Vince Vinnyp
            • Spy Black

              Those are really selling like hotcakes, aren’t they?…

            • Vince Vinnyp

              What has that got to do with it. You implied that Sony were not using XQD in their flagship cameras so were not invested in it. Actually they are using them in their really high end cameras
              That was just an example. If XQD is the best available format then why on earth would they not use it. Cards are available now if you buy them now they will last longer than a D850. Spares might not be available for the D850 in 15 years time that is not a reason not to buy one.

            • Spy Black

              Because we’re talking about still cameras here. Nobody cares about a proprietary high end professional video camera model where EVERYTHING related to it will also be proprietary. Your argument is moot.

            • Vince Vinnyp

              Well I have Sony Cameras that use XQD so in my case it makes a difference. I may be the only one but I may not.

            • Spy Black

              Yes, but you have to understand that you and users of your particular product are the exception to the rule. There’s simply not that many of you out there.

            • Vince Vinnyp

              Well From Nikon I currently have CF&SD and dual XQD. Before that CF and SD, CF and XQD and CF. Now I will have XQD and SD UHSII. For Sony has Memory stick, XQD and SD. Then Panasonic has SD and dual SD UHSII =. Drones, Go-Pro and phones micro SD. So I for one would love to see one format but they are all a compromise. Panasonic have held up a firmware upgrade for my GH5 because SD cards are currently too slow so it’s not that easy.

            • Allen_Wentz

              And “Sony’s flagship model in this conversation is obviously the A9” is a perfect example. One MAJOR flaw of Sony’s flagship A9 is its terrible buffer/card performance. You would have Nikon make the same dumb mistake of only using lame SD, despite XQD being faster, cheaper and more robust

            • Spy Black

              That’s inconsequential. The fact that Sony deliberately chose NOT to use XQD in their flagship camera speaks volumes about their confidence in the very medium they helped create, and are now the sole manufacturer of.

          • Allen_Wentz

            BS to “dead end.” When SD is faster then tell us XQD is dead end.

            • Spy Black

              Tell that to Lexar.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Lexar’s parent company Micron simply chose to leave the removable storage business.

              What surprises me is that they apparently have not sold to good Lexar brand name. It would seem to have value; maybe they have a different long-term plan for the brand.

          • akkual

            Sandisk is one of the XQD designers and likely owns the right to produce them as they wish. I am pretty sure they will start do them when the demand increases.

            • nwcs

              I believe I read that they effectively abandoned XQD. At least that’s been their position for 5 years: https://www.cnet.com/news/sandisk-on-new-xqd-memory-card-format-meh/

            • akkual

              I read that as “there is no demand yet for these cards, so we don’t do them yet”. I don’t see any point for companies like Sandisk to start producing cards that have almost no demand in the beginning. When the demand increases they will definitely start do them. And as CFexpress uses the same form factor, it is only matter of time they have the production line capable to produce XQDs as well (just throw different controller chip than on CFe’s and you can do both on same line).

            • Spy Black

              That’s why they’ve been making them all along, right?

            • akkual

              Which one comes first? Memory cards or devices that use those memory cards? Typically they both emerge same time by one manufacturer pushing them. The fact is that memory card business is splitting. One direction is micro-SDs that are used in mobile phones, require very small form factor, and energy consumption. The other direction is eventually towards fastest SSDs that are used in high end photo- and videocameras. XQD ja CFe are to that SSD direction (SD or CFast are not), CFe will be considerable option even for todays M.2 SSDs. XQD2.0 already is considerable replacement for SATA SSDs. I’d be more than happy to build an XQD/CFe NAS, if only the prices would be pushed down. Would be way smaller than todays SDD/HDD NAS and consume fraction of power. I predict that within a couple years, there is no longer made any high selling devices that use traditional SD -cards.

            • Spy Black

              “Which one comes first? Memory cards or devices that use those memory cards?”
              Well let’s see, the D4 was released in 2012. Last I checked, that was FIVE YEARS ago. Then came the D4s in 2014, the D5 and D500 in 2016, and now the D850. That’s 5 chickens in 5 years without a single Sandisk egg.

              I’m not arguing that the technology is good or useful, but it needs to be assimilated into the industry, or industries, as you’ve pointed out. It’s not happening however. What has stopped computer manufacturers from making laptops and desktops that accept XQD? Wouldn’t that be an ideal medium for computers, especially laptops? Is it happening? Five years since the D4 and Sandisk has no XQD disks, even though they were part of the consortium that helped design it.

              “I predict that within a couple years, there is no longer made any high selling devices that use traditional SD -cards.”

              Only if SD development remains stagnant. Has it? Will it? Which is the more portable and most mass-produced medium of the two? Can you find SD slots in laptops? You know, there is nothing really exceptional about SD other than it’s the industry standard, and yes, standards can change, but only when something new and better comes along. When the technology can no longer keep up with the pace of newer technology then it will become obsolete. I don’t see SD technology falling behind at this time. It keeps advancing along, and has massive production lines which are well established compared to a proprietary medium like XQD. Unless some quantum leap in both technology and, more importantly, ACCEPTANCE of that technology happens within the industry, I don’t see SD going away anytime soon. However at this time I DO see XQD as an also ran.

      • Antonio

        With SD USH-II prices at par or above XQD what would be the advantage besides paying for an adapter that would decrease the slot performance capabilities?

        • Spy Black

          Availability, for one. Not everyone needs 128 gig or larger cards either. Lower capacity cards are cheaper. Also, not everyone is a spray and pray shooter. Some people, like myself, can eadily get by on UHS-I cards in these cameras. All we really need is redudant archiving.

        • Allen_Wentz

          There is no benefit to SD. None. Unless one is incompetent enough to lose one’s work product/ cards and expect to go to the corner store and buy new cards (the images incompetence lost are often irreplaceable). And the cards one buys at the corner store are NOT UHS-II, they are even slower still, much slower.

          Easy-peasy, one buys fastest available XQD cards with a new body and they live forever with the body. If you want more cards most of the world gets overnight delivery from the likes of B&H. Heck, one can still get cheap floppy disks or Beta tape overnight.

      • Doubt if it will be made. Unless XQD gets some traction within the community.

        • Spy Black

          I was thinking just the opposite (the present situation) would make for greater impetus on such a product.

          • Allen_Wentz

            No way. An adapter for folks who _want_ slowed speed is fine because some apparently do want to slow top Nikons. But it is totally dumb to cripple one’s $3k camera by putting crap SD in it.

            • Spy Black

              If you’re not a spray-n-pray shooter, you don’t give a crap.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Anyone who thinks that the AF/speed/ buffers Nikon puts into its top DSLR bodies is because all those pro photogs that buy those bodies are “spray-n-pray shooters” is a fool.

      • nwcs

        I doubt it will be made as well but they really should make one.

        • Spy Black

          It’s hard to say at this time but it really is necessary. Nikon’s biggest professional fuck-up is embracing XQD. Imagine if the F5 was released, and it only took custom made 40mm film made by Kodak exclusively for the F5. The image quality would’ve been better, right?

          • Allen_Wentz

            XQD cards are NOT CONSUMABLES like film was. All the analogies some folks make are worse than just wrong, they are intentionally misleading.

            I and many others would be pissed if our expensive new pro bodies were stupidly hamstrung by not having the best available card. XQD was a smart move; just put an SD in a D850 or D500 and see the performance degradation.

            • Proto

              One XQD slot is not a smart move. It should have been dual XQD or dual SD UHS II.

              And when XQD has zero manufacturer from current one, then your camera maybe as useful as your advanced betamax.

            • Allen_Wentz

              I agree dual XQD would be preferable. Nikon I guess put an SD slot in for folks like Spy who think SD’s slow performance is just fine.

              1) 128+ GB camera cards are NOT consumables.
              2) Beta tape is readily available and XQD will also always be available (even though a photog should really never need to buy more cards).

            • Spy Black

              Wrong because you can’t accept the reality of XQD.

            • Allen_Wentz

              No, I live the FASTER reality of XQD every day. I bought two cards that will likely last as long as my D500 does. And if I want more cards they will be delivered to my door tomorrow.

              Also if I want circa-1980 floppy disks; delivery tomorrow.

              You for some reason are intent on making XQD into something unavailable, which is not and will not happen. Why do you create that lie?

              XQD will get superseded some day by a faster card just like SD has been beaten by XQD. But so what? Thanks to XQD I will forever have the fastest possible 2017 tech in my Nikon.

            • Spy Black

              “You for some reason are intent on making XQD into something unavailable…”

              No, I am not Lexar.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Like I told you elsewhere, Lexar’s parent company Micron simply left the removable storage biz.

            • Spy Black

              Well then I am not Micron.

          • akkual

            XQD is basically the same as CFexpress, but uses older PCIe 2.0 instead of PCIe 3.0. I don’t know what you are talking, but if you think card using PCIe is stupid, you don’t know nothing.

            • Spy Black

              I’m not talking about the technology. I’m talking about it’s acceptance in the industry, of which there is none. Relying on a medium that only a number of cameras you can literally count on your fingers use doesn’t strike me as a good investment. It doesn’t matter how great the technology is.

            • akkual

              But SD is already techonologically dead. It cannot keep up with the demand for speed that 4K and especially 8K video will demand. Only option is towards cards that will work directly on industry standard PCIe that even the SDD world has moved to, as SATA was not able to keep up with the speeds. RED EPICs store directly to SSDs for that very reason, but SSDs are large, and M.2 is not suitable for memory card use, so the next step is XQD/CFe.

            • Spy Black

              You say that as if the medium does not keep evolving. As long as SD keeps evolving, and it is, you don’t have an argument.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Nope. When you buy a new camera in 2016/2017 XQD is the fastest card that will ever be available for it. By a lot.

  • Antonio

    Some people complains about XQD prices going up but if we follow the B&H link SD USH-II seem to be even more expensive…and aren’t they slower?

    • nwcs

      For the capacities I’ve looked at (64 and below) they seem comparably priced. They are slower by about 25-30% depending upon how you characterize it. However I think it’s only relevant if you’re doing long sustained bursts. Someone like me who might do a burst lasting 10-20 frames max (and not frequently) you’ll never notice it. I already had 2 UHS II cards so that’s what I’m using in my D500 and will eschew the XQD until the prices come down more.

      • Antonio

        And do you think the doubled Mpx count will not make a difference keeping the same kind of use even knowing it will be still bellow the buffer capacity?

        • nwcs

          It depends on the usage scenario. More speed is great but if you already have high end UHS II cards and you don’t need long sustained bursts the odds are you won’t notice too much of at all.

          • Allen_Wentz

            Although many captures will not be compromised by the lame SD, slowing from SD is very obvious in PP workflow . Any sane person with fast card readers should notice the much longer time for transfers from SD as opposed to XQD.

            Of course if one maintains a really slow setup anyway the slow SD card transfer will be less obvious.

            • nwcs

              Well, I have a UHS II reader so the reads are pretty darn fast. And I have the cards already and the reader. So investing for 25% relative speed that I will only see in very limited situations seems a waste of money for my needs. Others need to evaluate their needs as they may not be mine. But I don’t have any issues with speed or transfers.

            • Allen_Wentz

              That is totally reasonable. Photogs in your situation are probably why Nikon included a UHS-II SD slot.

              Look at what Sony did, and included a really slow UHS-I SD slot in their high frame rate high price A9. The buffer/card scenario literally chokes that otherwise pretty good camera.

      • Image review, file transfer, in camera RAW processing, etc… all benefit from faster cards. XQD is the only way to go.

        • nwcs

          Yes, those are all nice things but for my use it isn’t compelling enough to pay the money right now.

      • Allen_Wentz

        Only in smaller sizes are prices similar, and XQD is always much faster. Large file sizes like the D850 produces deserve 128 GB and larger cards, and SD is substantially more costly in large sizes.

    • The price of UHS 2 will come down eventually, but if XQD continues to stay unsupported, then its price will continue to go up.

      • Allen_Wentz

        Probably not. Over time card prices have always fallen, so I would wager that if I want to add an XQD card in 2018 it will be cheaper than the same capacity was in 2016. Certainly 2017 prices are below 2016.

        SD costs more per GB than XQD at the kinds of capacities (128 GB and up) that we want with huge D850 files, and I do not expect that to change in 2018.

        • Í was talkíng about íf sony stops productíon of XQD cards. Then what?

          • 24×36

            Sony uses XQD cards in their broadcast camcorders, so your “hypothetical” is to put it mildly highly unlikely.

            • Even that ís a very small number. Ín fact much smaller compared to sony memory stick.

    • ZoetMB

      I look at CF, SD and XQD pricing regularly and the thing that’s baffling is that the prices are consistent in their inconsistency. They change all the time and sometimes, it’s the oldest cards in lines that have been replaced that have the price rises that make no sense.

      Didn’t this site report a while back that Lexar was going to discontinue making XQD cards? Thinking about that, the reason why Nikon may not have put two XQD slots of the D850 was fears that XQD might disappear. IMO, they should have made it modular so you could use whatever format you wanted with some sort of insertable cartridge held in with a screw or two.

      The only Sony card that has gone up in price in the last few weeks is the 32GB (from $59 to $65). The Lexar XQD cards without the card reader have all dropped in price, but the 128GB and 64GB is out of stock. The Sony 256GB G-E card is also out of stock.

      The Sony G-E cards are priced from $1.24 to $1.84 per GB. The M line is priced from $0.99 to $1.56 per GB. The Lexar cards without the card reader are priced from $1.05 to $1.99 per GB.

      The top of the line Sandisk SD cards (300MB/s read/200 MB/s write) are $1.87 to $1.95 per GB (as of two weeks ago – I didn’t recheck). The 95/90’s are priced from $0.51 to $0.71 per GB. The Sandisk top-of-the-line CF cards (160/140) are $1.09 to $2 per gig (all as of two weeks ago).

      (All prices re: B&H).

      • Allan

        Thanks for all your work in doing the arithmetic. The numbers you generated are informative.

      • Antonio

        Tks for the very comprehensive post on card prices and price fluctuations that as you say sometimes seem quite odd and the final customer can’t realize if it comes from the manufacturer or the distributors policies.

        I think that the Lexar case is a different one as their mother company decided to kill the retail brand and all product portfolio not just XQD cards. However I doubt the reason why Nikon adopted two different cards to be a consequence of the recent Micron decision as D500 has the same scheme and is in the market long enough to not “suffer” from the same “fears” and it seems more like a trend for their top cameras but the flagship.

      • Spy Black

        “Thinking about that, the reason why Nikon may not have put two XQD slots of the D850 was fears that XQD might disappear.”

        That’s a very interesting thought, that Nikon has realized how much they screwed everything up. I do agree they should have engineered a replaceable cartridge and bus system interfacing.

        However I don’t think that’s the case because what would have stopped them from putting in two full-speed (as opposed to the D500 half-speed) UHS-II slots and moved on? I think Nikon is remaining thickheaded about XQD.

        • Allen_Wentz

          There is NOTHING “thick-headed” about Nikon including the MUCH FASTER XQD card slot. XQD is much faster even out of the camera in PP, not jst due to Nikon’s lame card bus.

  • Ben Brayev

    you know whats funny? that exact 64gb lexar card costs 180$ in israel :).

    • That really sucks. That ís true also ín índía.

      • Ben Brayev

        you can also preorder the d850 for exactly 4300$ (USD)

      • r2d2

        Its pretty strange in India. Accessories and third party lenses are quite expensive. But Nikon & Canon body/lens prices are quite good.

        At least for Nikon products, the prices are usually less than what one pays in US. And products usually hit the market earlier than in EU/US. Nikon has ~55% market share here and has been pretty aggressive past couple of years.

        • I think Nikon is investing heavily in India and is trying to keep the prices low in order to gain market share. Nikon has over 55% of the DSLR market:
          https://nikonrumors.com/2016/08/28/weekly-nikon-news-flash-382.aspx/

          • JasonsArgonauts

            Nikon are wise to invest in India-Such an up and coming economy with a massive population. That single investment in their own future could save Nikon if they were ever in financial trouble in the future. 🙂

        • Proto

          if you get Nikon lens at lower price, you will likely not need 3rd party lens at higher price with a USB dock

        • One reason behind low prices could be the discounts we get for bodies from dealers(brick and mortor shops) right from day one. I don’t think anywhere else it is done.

    • Christoph van der Walt

      And the owners of B&H are Jewish. Would have thought they would cut the guys from the motherland some slack! 🙂

      • Brett A. Wheeler

        My wife is Thai and we don’t get a break either!

        • Proto

          But you get free Thai food every lunch break!
          Yum! : )

      • Ben Brayev

        lol, we dont have B&H in israel, its just a bunch of stores that “compete” over prices all are very high though. the lowest prices are about 30% more expensive than usa, in this memory card case its more than 100% more expensive..

      • ZoetMB

        I don’t know if this is the case for the owners (or workers) at B&H, but certain Orthodox sects do not believe in Zionism because they don’t believe Jews should return to the motherland until the Messiah returns, so they don’t believe that Israel should even exist until then. That’s why so many live in Brooklyn, (It’s also why Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former President of Iran, embraced some Orthodox Jews some years ago when he was accused of anti-Semitism.)

      • eric

        Kind of like how they treated their workers poorly and had to settle a big lawsuit recently. Business is business.

  • br0xibear

    I’m not sure the prices of XQD cards rising has any connection to the D850.
    Here in the UK the prices have been rising as the Lexar stock runs out (many retailers have little or no Lexar XQD stock left). Not that many retailers sell Sony XQD cards…don’t know if that’s due to difficulty getting stock from Sony, or demand for XQD being low…maybe both ?

    • Fly Moon

      It could be both. I myself am buying a couple for my ordered D850 (and I already have D500)

    • JasonsArgonauts

      The three 128GB Lexar XQD cards I had to buy to go with my D850 order have gone up by just over a fiver each on Amazon UK in the last few days, and I know it’s not much, but it’s good to know that I FINALLY bought something at the right time! 🙂

  • Brett A. Wheeler

    I hope this one gets the 250 exposure back!

    • Or the sound-dampening blimp.

    • Michiel953

      I’m hoping my MD-12 fits. Well, it should, obviously. It’ll crank up those measly 9 fps no end!

      • Rick Jansen

        It doesn’t if I understand correctly. The D850 requires the MD-18.

        • Vince Vinnyp

          Yes but the one sliver of joy is that the BL-5 battery cover is the same. 🙂

        • silmasan

          1. … swoosh on the MD-12 joke …

          2. That would be MB-D18

        • Michiel953

          I have an MD-12, not the MD-18. The 12 should fit.

  • SteveWithAnS

    Why is SB-700 listed and not the SB-910?

    • MB

      Because Nikon stopped making SB-910 …

    • cookie

      Because the SB 910 is discontinued. The SB 700 not. Successor of the SB910 is the SB 5000.

      • SteveWithAnS

        Gotcha. I thought it meant it wasn’t supported by the D850, but I assume it works unless they made the firmware reject it to make you buy the SB-5000…

    • Proto

      Without a pop up flash in D850 for CLS, you may have to either buy that Nikon radio adapter and SB5000 flash, or you can use other triggers from market to run the older non-radio flash.

      • SteveWithAnS

        I don’t see why I couldn’t just use the sb-910 on camera or with my nikon flash cord or use my sb-700 to trigger my sb-910. I swear I will bounce flash you right in the eyes!

        • JXVo

          Yes you can do any of those options too.

        • Proto

          Yup, that will work fine! All i meant was that one will need an external trigger — a flash, SU800, 3rd party trigger

          And bounce flash off your asz to make a D850 eclipse! : )

      • JXVo

        Assuming it will be at least as capable as D500, the D850 will support either optical or radio triggered remote flash provided you have the appropriate unit mounted on the hot shoe.

        So you can mount your SB910 on the hotshoe and use it as on camera flash, or as commander to trigger other remote optical CLS units. Or you can trigger the the SB910 remotely if you have any other optical commander flash unit on the camera or a SU800 commander unit. As far as I know the SB5000 can be used to remotely fire both optical and radio triggered units but you’ll need a WR-R10 and its adapter mounted on the camera for radio trigger. SB5000 can receive but not transmit radio trigger signals.
        There are also 3rd party radio triggers

        • Proto

          Yup. I just meant 3rd party triggers can be an economical way to trigger CLS from D850. Or mount an expensive SB910, SB700 or SU800 as commander…

          Bottom line — one will need an external trigger for firing flashes from D850. I will use PW TT5’s

  • MB

    For people outside US wining about Nikon pricing …
    Tamron 24-70 G2 was announced at 1200$ in US …
    In Europe the announcement price was 1699€ or 2040$ with VAT … or 1700$ without … current price in EU is 1400€ or 1400$ without VAT … so we are getting somewhere … but …
    I think now is the time for all good men (and women) in EU to come to aid of their continent and boycott unfair Japanese companies pricing policy 🙂

  • Proto

    CFexpress will likely not work in a XQD slot….

    Just watch, XQD will be the rock that will sink D850 used sale value in future

    • Sony is still the only XQD manufacturer today.

    • ar

      With Nikon moving so confidently into the XQD format, one must wonder if they are after the Lexar memory card business branch that Lexar is apparently trying to shed? Either way, they must know something we don’t. Nikon isn’t that shortsighted, –quite the opposite.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Nah. Storage media will always be available just like Beta tape is available overnight cheap. Plus camera cards are not consumables anyway. Buy two fat ones with a new camera and they should outlast the shutter.

  • br0xibear

    “CFexpress, the latest flash card standard based on and compatible with XQD, will catch up eventually”
    Not true…I asked Delkin (the only manufacturer to announce a CFExpress card so far) and they told me CFExpress will not work in any current camera that uses an XQD slot.
    Search through the archives for my post and screenshot of the email Delkin sent me, or ask Peter to post an article about it…I sent him a copy of that email some time ago.

    • I also have it – will do a post about it, I just got busy with the D850 🙂

      • br0xibear

        This is also worth reading about the subject, I’m not sure how reliable Google Translate will be, but here’s the link EnPassant and silmasan pointed me towards a while back too…

        https://www.fotosidan.se/cldoc/news/cfexpress-ersattaren-for-cfast-och-xqd.htm

        • chrisgull

          Pretty interesting article, I learnt a few things.

        • akkual

          That article says it is up to camera manufacturers do they add compatability for both cards. And that there is no technical restrcitions for that. For D850 the question is that how the HW+SW is integrated that communicate with XQD. If it is full on ASIC, then CFe cards will not likely ever fork on D850. If it’s ASIC with microcode, or FPGA (unlikely) or SW implementation on ARM or similar, then it could be added with firmware update. I still see no any restriction for someone to implement a card that can work on both. Also, the same manufacturing line should be usable for making both CFe and XQD cards. It will only require changing the controller (in XQD2.0 vs. CFe1.0 it will even have the same pin layout), so I’d assume that XQD cards will continue to exists, as the demand is there.

      • Proto

        Nikon should give you a free D850. Guaranteed, you triggered a sale of at least 125 units if not more… that’s over half-million $ in sales they owe you!

        • I agree, they should 🙂

    • MB

      I am not sure of course and I might be wrong but I was referring to this device
      https://www.atechflash.com/blackbird-vx-1cxq

      • br0xibear

        That’s a card reader, I was talking about whether a CFExpress card will work in camera’s XQD slot.

        • MB

          That is hardly to be expected … but if the next generation Nikon cameras can use XQD cards you already have that would be nice, no?

          • br0xibear

            I think you’ve mixed up something.
            You said “CFexpress, the latest flash card standard based on and compatible with XQD”…
            I’m just pointing out that Delkin told me there is no compatability.

            • MB

              Backward and forward compatibility is seldom possible … that was imprecise statement on my part if that is how you understood it …
              My reasoning is: if someone can make a device that is compatible with and can read and write both CFexpress and XQD cards I am just pointing out that Nikon can probably do the same … and I may be wrong of course …

            • br0xibear

              “if someone can make a device that is compatible with and can read and write both CFexpress and XQD cards I am just pointing that Nikon can
              probably do the same”
              That’s a different question.
              Will any current camera with a XQD slot read/write a CFExpress card ?…no.
              Will any future camera with a CFExpress slot read/write a XQD card ?…don’t know, but technically it is possible. But why do that since the CFExress cards will be so much faster than the XQD cards anyway.

            • MB

              Why all current cameras are compatible with previuos versions of SD cards? And why some cameras using SD cards were compatible with MMC cards?
              And CFexpress is not that much faster and there will be some time before flash memory can reach full CFexpress speed .,, and in the meantime there will be hopefully many Nikon cameras needing XQD cards so making them especially if they are usable in newer cameras wouldnt be such a bad idea after all;)

            • akkual

              There is no reason whatsoever to not implement a memory card that can support both. It may require adding a switch to the card, but since the physical form factor and pin configuration are the same, there’s no restrictions for it. Also, eventhough PCIe 3.0 (CFe) is not backwards compatible with PCIe 2.0 (XQD), they are only separated at the clock speeds, tighter tolerances and switch from 8/10b coding to 128/130b coding. Rest of the communication stack is the same. If a card works on PCIe 3.0, it is very small addition to the impelemnattion to make it work with 2.0 too, and thus achieve the backwards compatability with XQD. There is also possibility that some XQD cameras can be updated with firmware to support CFe. It depends on the implementation though. However, CFe is so new standard that we will need to wait 2-3 years before we see them anywhere.

          • Allen_Wentz

            Not for me. I keep cards with the camera, and mass storage is so cheap now, ~$150 for 440 MB/s 128 GB XQD, I only really need one XQD card and a spare for the D500. Plus one slower UHS-II SD card and a spare.

            Typically I would expect card speeds to evolve to faster before my next body, so I would be keeping specific cards with a specific body. E.g. even though the D850 and D500 both use the same speed XQD, the XQD price/capacity has dropped a lot since I got the D500 and the D850 files are much larger. So if I buy a D850 it will get 128 GB or 256 GB card sizes, while the 64 GB XQD cards (cost effective at the time) originally purchased with the D500 will live with the D500.

        • Allen_Wentz

          All that matters is that the day you bought it the D500 & D850 had available the fastest current card tech. Plus the choice to slow camera and workflow performance by using SD for those folks too cheap to buy fast new cards for new cameras.

          • br0xibear

            You’ve missed the point, it’s not about which card is faster, cheaper, newer or whatever…the question was about XQD and CFExpress compatability.
            I didn’t know if CFExpress cards would work in ca,meras with XQD slots, they use the same form factor so it’s a reasonable question to ask…so I asked…and Delkin said no.
            I’m tired of repeating the same thing over and over, ask Delkin yourself, or if Peter posts an article you can read, comment about it all you want.
            i asked the people who know, they gave me an answer…I’m bored with it now, goodnight, lol.

            • Allen_Wentz

              No, I understood your point and do not disagree. I just opine that it _is_ “about which card is faster, cheaper.” It is simple really: I want the fastest card available in a new camera. I buy top bodies and keep them a long time, and I expect my next body to have a newer faster storage card, no problem.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Of course. The same applies to lame UHS-II in D500 and D850. If UHS-III is ever made it will not work in today’s cameras.

  • Randolf Sack

    I ordered a 64GB XQD and a 128GB SD card. I have read that the XQD can be slowed down by the other card. Is that only when the SD is used as a backup or even if the SD card is in the slot? Can anyone with a D500 tell me? I ordered the SD mainly for landscape shots and the XQD when I do wildlife.

    • Allen_Wentz

      The SD card slows operation when it is in the camera. Pull it out when you may want full competence from the D500.

      • ToastyFlake

        Why would simply having an SD card in slow it down, if you are not reading or writing to it?

        • Spy Black

          Because the whole system has to run at the slowest bus speed if you’re recording redundantly. It only really affects you in you are a spray-n-pray shooter. However even if you’re not the main problem is still the two different formats. Make 2 SD or make it 2 XQD, but stop making it both.

          • ToastyFlake

            But if you are not recording redundantly, with the sd only there for overflow, if needed, why would it slow it down?

            • Ed Hassell

              Because there is only ONE data buss. The timing is linked to current active card(s) (plural when both slots in filled) regardless of which one you happen to be using. Therefore, IF there is a slow card in the SD slot, XQD is slowed to match. Conversely — and I’ve tried this — with the fastest available Lexar 2000x SD II in the D500 and the slowest Sony XQD card also installed, writing to the Lexar 2000x card is slowed down by the slow Sony card.

            • Spy Black

              It’s not clear whether that would slow it down or not. Technically it shouldn’t, but recording to overflow isn’t really making the best use of the second slot, especially when it’s a different medium running at a slower speed.

            • Ed Hassell

              The D500 (&, most probably, the D850) file writing function operates at the speed of the slowest card present regardless of which card is being written to at the time and regardless of overflow mode, simultaneous mode or NEF to one & JPG to the other mode.

            • ToastyFlake

              Well that sucks, but it’s good to know. Having the SD in the slot is about the only place I’m not sure to lose it. I wonder if I’ve been slowing down my d610 by having a slower card in the 2nd SD slot?? I only have it there for backup, if I fill up slot 1 card or I forget to put it back in after a download 🙂

            • nwcs

              Maybe, but since the D610 uses UHS I you probably wouldn’t notice anyway.

            • Spy Black

              The D500 is further hampered because the SD slot is apparently running at roughly half speed, so you’re only getting about 150Mb sec as opposed to the full 300 Mb sec that UHS-II is capable of. No one knows why this is, but it remains to be seen if the D850 also has this SD slot crippling.

            • Proto

              Hope not. Slower UHS II and Nikon’s recommendation of using only E lens (not 2.8G or 1.4G most of us have) — makes it less enticing.

          • Allen_Wentz

            You really need to stop displaying gross ignorance by suggesting that usage of Nikon’s top FPS tools (AF, buffer, high frame rate) on Nikon’s very best bodies means a photog is a “a spray-n-pray shooter.”

            • Spy Black

              No, you need to accept the reality of what that is, and if you make good money on it, why give a shit?

            • Allen_Wentz

              Because saying someone shots “spray and pray” is a huge insult to a photog, especially to those of us who learned on film. Plus most of the folks who use the term “spray and pray” do not own modern D5/D500 Nikons and have not learned the modern tools available.

            • Spy Black

              Just because you may not want to accept the reality of what you do does not change the reality of what you do.

      • Randolf Sack

        That’s extremely annoying, what were they thinking? So I’m hiking through some muddy track for landscapes and I come across some wildlife, I need to take the damn card out to get full burst speed. Bit disappointing but at least I know. Thanks.

  • Larry Fasnacht

    I just went to B&H and saw the Lexmar 128 with card reader for $159. I paid $179 yesterday. 🙁

  • silmasan

    Come on Nikon… Update the NX-D already…

  • silmasan

    Omigosh…they’re already bickering over ‘XQuitDead’ vs SlowD*** again… where’s the pop corn potato chips bag… 😀

  • TheInfinityPoint

    I found out a little more information about the ES-2 slide/film adapter today. According to Nikon:

    “The ES-2 Film Digitizing Adapter can be used on other Nikon DSLRs, but the D850 includes a digitizing function that can automatically reverse negative images and store them as positives. Other Nikon DSLRs do not have this function, so negative images will need to be converted to positives via image processing software.

    The ES-2 Film Digitizing Adapter can be used with the AF-S Micro NIKKOR 60mm f/2.8G ED Lens, the AF Micro-NIKKOR 60mm f/2.8D Lens, and the AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G Lens. Adapter rings are supplied with the ES-2 for use when attaching it to the AF-S Micro NIKKOR 60mm f/2.8G ED Lens or the AF-Micro NIKKOR f/2.8D Lens. When used with the AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G Lens no adapter ring is needed.”

    This is great news for me since I already have the AF-D 60mm macro lens, and I have a small but growing collection of positive slide film I’d like digitized.

  • eric

    Of course after the rush of buying new gear wears off, one must begin to accessorize, to keep the rush going. Good time to buy new lenses too. Might as well go all in and buy one of everything. Been there, it’s worth the experience.

  • XT

    Does anybody know if the D850 will ship with an SD card? If so, what’s the expected capacity? Thanks!

    • Ed Hassell

      Don’t know for sure; but I would doubt it. Nikon does not usually throw in memory cards. However, some of the major camera dealers often “sweeten the pot” with a few extras, including memory cards (although they are very seldom top-of-the-line high-speed ones).

  • Nobody Cares

    Is there a reason to pay more for Sony’s card reader (which is usb 3.1) vs Lexar’s 3.0? 3.0 seems like it’s fast enough for the current cards, but I’m not sure if that’s true after overhead is accounted for.

    • Ed Hassell

      I’m using Lexar’s $25 XQD USB 3.0 adapter and am very happy with its operation. No cord, no fuss, no muss. It just works.

      • Nobody Cares

        Thanks Ed.

  • Ed Hassell

    I have no idea how many is enough; however, I bought 8 Lexar 2933x 64GB XQD cards for use with my 1st D500 and 8 more to go with my 2nd D500. When Micron/Lexar made their exit announcement, I ordered a dozen of the 128GB for use with the upcoming D810 replacement, anticipating its dual card arrangement. I’m hoping I’m covered.

    • Proto

      you spend nearly 5 grand on cards?

      • Ed Hassell

        Well, yes, almost. I paid about $90 each for the 64GB cards and about $145 for the 128GB cards; so the total was closer to $3200. I also bought a WD MyPassport Wireless Pro, removed the 2TB mechanical HDD and replaced it with a 4TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, giving me bullet-proof backup in the field. And I added an Anker PowerCore+ 26800 to provide backup power to the WD when out in the field (plus it can charge my cell phone). And I have 4 batteries for each camera and 12 Eneloop Pro AA batteries for each of my strobes.

        If I expect to be paid for my work, I have to be prepared to deliver. Running out of storage and lack of power are not options I care to face.

        • Proto

          Very elaborate! What kind of shoots do you usually do?

          • Ed Hassell

            Actually, more these days than I used to — I spent 27 years as a contract special events photographer for a number of embassies in the Washington DC area — grin & grab reception work for people who deem themselves VIPs. Still doing some of that but also doing a lot of sports these days — something I hadn’t done since college.

            • Proto

              Very cool. You must enjoy the flexibility with all the equipment you have now, versus your film days in the past

            • Ed Hassell

              Yes, the versatility of today’s equipment was unimaginable 50 years ago when I began shooting professionally.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Wow. Don’t you ever upload to computer? That is part of my backup routine, but I guess lots of cards would work OK if one can afford it, except that I like to eyeball verify the pix as part of ASAP backup.

  • Dinosaur

    So confirmed the D850 used both A&B Versions of the EN-EL18. Anyone know if the D800 is compatible with the EN-ELA?

  • Mike

    No. The company that makes Lexar branded consumer memory is Micron. They are alive and well. The Lexar brand is being killed off by Micron. They will likely honour any and all warranty claims.

  • anilarkay

    Waiting to see how the Nikon D850 performs while recording movie. For my D500, while taking video, the camera autofocus system keeps ‘hunting’ for attaining focus.
    Not sure if I’m on wrong setting. Can anybody help me here?

    • Allen_Wentz

      I am no video expert, but the lens also matters.

  • C_QQ_C

    with lexar stepping out of the memorycards, i guess Sony XQD cards will go up even more..
    Anyway, where i live , currently XQD cards are sold out everywhere in the physical stores..

    • Allen_Wentz

      Who buys XQD in a brick-and-mortar store? Or for that matter, who buys UHS-II SD in a brick-and-mortar store? B&H has 64 GB, 128 GB, and card readers in stock. Still. Available ever since I bought cards when the D500 was preordered.

  • Tony Johnson

    For those who think this is a dead format, just take a look at the card and it’s throughput. It’s also going to be the card of choice in the top two most popular Nikon cameras, the D850 and the D500. For anyone that needs to use bandwidth and framerate, it’s the card to have. Does anyone think Nikon will let their high speed cameras go without cards?

  • Allen_Wentz

    Yup. Y’all send all those worthless Lexar XQD cards to me for disposal. :~)

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