This is the Nikon D7500


The first leaked picture of the Nikon D7500 camera is courtesy of Nokishita. The official announcement will be next week on April 11th or the 12th. Shipping will start in June. The rumored specifications can be found here.

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  • Wilson

    Does that 8 Fps sound like it will still happen? That would be the most impressive spec for a camera in this range

    • Spy Black

      Only if it has a buffer large enough.

      • People should count on it NOT having that feature, that would cannibalize sales needlessly, and being a non pro style body, would be blurring lines in sure Nikon wants to keep clear.

        • Allen_Wentz

          I don’t know about that; IMO cannibalism by newer models is not a bad thing. The D500 needed to be state-of-the-art and it was. I love it.

          However for newer Nikon models to nip at the D500 from a tech competence standpoint is totally acceptable – because you can bet the competition will be doing so.

          The D500 will be surpassed by other cameras. Nikon’s job is to keep ALL Nikon’s cameras moving forward. That includes the D500 with an s version, an x version or a D510 at some point.

          • manattan

            The buffer is not what makes the D500 special. Its really the AF system from the D5, and given that the AF system requires a second processor, I doubt it will come to the 7500.

            • Thom Hogan

              It’s the combination of the two, really.

            • SteveWithAnS

              The circular viewfinder is what really sold me on the D500.

            • Good god yeah, I’ve hated having to repeatedly buy the eyepiece surrounds for the D7000 and D7100 because they kept falling off. At least they could have had a locking mechanism!

            • Allen_Wentz

              Yes both. But each also separately matters.

              E.g. I need buffer to capture a fat burst of a skier going through a gate, but in the past I pre-focused – and was screwed if I wanted anything outside the narrow focus depth. Today with D500 one just follows a skier and gets it all. Follow a skier all the way down the hill if you like, as long as you first pull the lame SD card.

        • aradilon

          They need a high sale camera now, more than ever now that there stock is so low! The just need a camera that sells good, and to be honest, the D500 is to steep and has alot more fps!

        • I disagree. I would buy a D7500 as a second body if it ticked the right boxes, including fps and buffer. And I’d keep the D500 because of the build and…a whole long list of things this won’t have.

        • nukunukoo

          Cannibalism in today’s market is not a bad thing anymore. In fact, avoidance of it is what is making Nikon and Canon’s market go on a decline. I’m an economics researcher and the new school of thought is that it’s better to overlap and cannibalise your market than the competitor. This is a strategy now in effect for Apple, Sony, Fuji, Japanese and Korean carmakers, Chinese phone manufacturers and recently, AMD.

      • ITN

        It would not need a large physical memory buffer to be capable of long bursts if they add XQD and/or SD UHS-II support. They have to throw the users a bone and traditionally the handicap of the D7x00 series has been the limited burst depth. Replacing functional wifi with dysfunctional Snapbridge is a clear downgrade since most people can’t get the latter to work. Some might see that going from the 24MP sensor to 20MP is a downgrade as well (see dxomark). If they don’t give the users something meaningful that works better, they won’t be able to sell the camera. So as a minimum, upgrade the burst capability by supporting fast cards.

        If they don’t upgrade the AF module to Multi-CAM 20k then the D500 maintains its position as the premium action DSLR in the DX format and sales should not be much affected.

      • Analyzer_Pro

        The buffer has to be as large enough as the competitive cameras.

    • BlueBomberTurbo

      A6000 shoots 11fps, and was introduced at $650…

      • Marc P.

        A6000 is Rangefinder Style, does have a shitty EVF (i’ve tested it) and is nowhere a comparsion to the D7500.
        Also, the battery power cannot compete with a DSLR.
        The EVF always sucks energy, and the NP-FW50 is way small from capacity.

      • Thom Hogan

        It also blacks out the viewfinder so that the 11 fps is not particularly useful in following subjects.

        • Gregory Roane

          Very True!

          And… the Nikon 1 J/V all shoot 60fps at a cost lower than the A6000 (J series at least).

          And… just as useless at following subjects.

          🙂

          • Duh it does not shoot at 60fps at FF or 20MPs, any camera can shoot at 60fps at 2Mps

            • ITN

              AFAIK the 1 J5 does 60fps with full resolution (AF locked on the first frame), though autofocus is available between frames in the burst only up to 20fps.

            • Thom Hogan

              Duh it does. ;~) That was one of the desired traits of the Nikon 1 series. As I noted, I didn’t understand why every golf sports photographer didn’t have a Nikon 1 in their bag, because it also does that 60 fps silently, and with fixed focus, which is perfect for a golf swing. Or 20 fps with focus, if you’ve got a running golfer ;~).

          • Mike Gordon

            But no blackout…

        • BlueBomberTurbo

          Dunno, it handily replaced my D7100.

        • Robbie Green

          Definitely not the case with the A6500 though. I recently picked one up and have been shooting my son’s youth sports using it and the E mount 70-200 f4.

          It nails focus as much as the D500 70-200 f2.8 II combo I had been using. I used the A6500 week before last, D500 last week, and A6500 again yesterday.

          Unlike the D500, the buffer eventually fills on the Sony, but if you can live with 100 or so RAW shots per burst, it’s a very workable substitute.

          I picked the A6500 up as a pocketable alternative to my D800 and D500. I’m now seriously considering selling the D500.

          • I recently tried switching to M43 and my initial reaction was that it was, if not as good as DSLR, close enough that the benefit of a lighter camera and lens system would win. I got quite a few nice bird in flight shots that I wouldn’t have gotten with my DSLR because I wouldn’t have been carrying the DSLR.

            Then I noticed some amazing bird activity on a nature trail near my house while biking, pulled out my Panasonic and couldn’t get a damn thing in focus. I came back the next day, at the same time modulated more-or-less for tides, lugging my D7000 (the old 39 point AF, sigh) and nailed almost every shot. Now, I know the Sonys use PDAF, and haven’t had a chance to use the 6500, but I find the subtle lag of even the fastest EVFs to be a killer with unpredictable motion. And the Sony lens system is limited, expensive, generally not significantly smaller, and I already have Nikon glass.

          • Thom Hogan

            Absolutely true. The A6500 gets rid of the dreaded slide show effect in the EVF, at least if you’ve set the camera that way.

            But in terms of “nailing focus,” that hasn’t been my observation in AF-C. The Sony seems to do the same thing as other Sony bodies do, which is let focus stay put until a certain DOF point has been reached. I see more in-sequence misses with the Sony than I do with the D7200, when handled and set optimally.

            That said, the A6500 certainly is a step further than the A6000 and A6300, and a welcome step.

            • It just seems to me that EVFs have a constellation of seemingly minor deficits compared to DSLRs and every incremental improvement fails to close the gap, and the aggregate effect of the minor deficits is indefinably huge. Or maybe I’m just a Luddite.

            • Mike A

              The newer EVFs (A99II, GH5, EM1 II) offer many advantages over OVF which include size, brightness, accurate image preview and many more. I don’t miss any shots due to the EVF on my A99II (very fast refresh). It has replaced my 5DMkIV in part for the EVF plus a number of other reasons. Also, I just got a GH5 and it’s EVF is amazing. The OVF on my 5dMkIV seems antiquated in comparison

            • Marc P.

              Not being interested. EVFs do have issues with shimmering, rainbow coloring, unsharp edges, lag, energy-consuming, un-natural colors, flickering, grainy & being noisy at night…nope, i love my good, bright glass pentaprism OVF. Natural view, no eyestrain, no headaches. With EVF – anytime, even after just a few minutes..some people do have way sensible, delicate eyes, like myself. Horses for courses. Other people might be different, but at current tech level, EVFs just don’t work for me…and perhaps never will..be.

              I do love my “antiquated” OVF, on my 5D….heck, even on my EOS 650, Mike! 🙂

            • Thom Hogan

              What, and optical viewfinders don’t have minor deficits? Like sacrificing showing focus for brightness? Or being perfectly aligned. Or having focus markings that actually indicate size and shape of the focus sensors?

            • This is all true (note that some EVFs somehow manage not to have perfect coverage; I haven’t figured that one out). And in fact EVFs have virtues such as letting you see the picture you’re taking not the thing you’re taking the picture of. It seems to me that all the advantages of EVFs tend to be in cases where speed isn’t crucial, and for those situations DSLRs have live view.

            • Thom Hogan

              EVFs generally operate off a reduced video stream from the camera, so if the camera is not using (or cannot use) the full sensor for video, you get coverage differences. It’s really about how you subsample the sensor for video, and how flexible that is.

              This is also why the histograms are off in the real time displays: they’re taken from a subsampled video stream that’s been demosaiced and optimized for view.

            • Spy Black

              There’s a lot of things I like about EVFs, but the resolution, frame rate, and brightness (under bright sun conditions) turn me off. I can live with it on an RX100 or GM5, but on higher-end cameras I can’t accept it. It’s what turned me off to the XT-1. Everybody raved about the viewfinder, but when I looked through it, I thought “WTF”? I felt the same about the GH4 and A6000 EVFs.

              Unfortunately increasing the resolution, frame rate and brightness all require more computational and electrical power, which would complicate the Achilles Heel of mirrorless cameras, battery life, so I don’t expect to see better EVFs anytime soon. I’m sure most people are fine with present-day EVFs, but for the time being I’ll stick with OVF DSLRs.

            • I went over to my local Best Buy which happens to have a very nice selection of cameras to play with, and seems to keep the demo batteries charged, and the best EVFs I tried were in the a6000 (no a6500 or a6300 in stock) and RX10iii. The A7’s seemed somehow flakier and sluggish.

              At 11fps the a6000’s slideshow is not so bad and didn’t seem much worse than the mirror blackout of a D500 going full speed (but it’s not like they have birds diving go fish in the store to really test). But in general, the best EVFs looked pixelated and jittery compared to any good OVF I tried. Obviously it’s a matter of taste but every EVF I try is disappointing. I want them to be good. Even if I were ha–you with sony’s viewfinders, their lens selection leaves a lot to be desired.

              As an aside — the security devices they place on DSLRs block access to the AF button on Nikon and Canon DSLRs preventing me from testing AF-C on the various cameras, which seems like a terrible design.

            • Robbie Green

              Would you be interested in seeing some SOOC images from the A6500, Thom?

              I shoot my son’s soccer practice Thursday afternoons. I’d be happy to have the camera save JPGs next week. I could then zip all of them up and put the file on Dropbox if you’re interested.

              Unfortunately, I already edited and nuked yesterday’s RAWs. I save all of my RAW files usually, but take about 500 shots per hour during these practices, so that’s not really possible.

              With this particular camera, I’ve found the AF-C to be on-par with the D500, at least when shooting a bunch of 4 year olds running around a soccer field in broad daylight. I’m using lock-on AF, flexible spot M.

              I do suspect it wouldn’t perform as well as the D500 under more dimly lit conditions, but with plenty of light, I can’t see a difference.

            • Thom Hogan

              I’ve got plenty of example shots from most every camera on the market now. I try to use repeatable situations so that I can assess, and I try to make those tough situations. 4 year olds are not running 15mph.

            • 1741

              Try some motor sports ie subjects that actually move fast, how many of you 500+ shots are actually any good before editing ?

            • Robbie Green

              Good is subjective. We’re talking about 4 year olds playing soccer. It’s a bit like herding cats. I actually don’t edit them per-se, just crop a few when there’s a foot in frame that doesn’t belong or whatever.

              What I can tell you is they’re all in focus.

            • Molesworth

              Thom, I understood the a6500 shares the same focus system/specs as the a6300, but with a deeper buffer. I found the a6300 to be markedly better than the a6000 at tracking in AF-C.
              BTW….your sensor article on DSLR Bodies is cut off at the end. Good article I’d like to finish it.

    • Mehdi R

      Agree

    • Max

      Doesn’t the 80D do 8fps?

      • ITN

        According to Canon, approximately 7fps is the highest fps rate.

    • M. Sauvage

      Well, I just want to point out that Sony A77ii and Pentax K3.2 are pretty close to this kind of speed and they are not new on the market…

      • But Pentax and Sony A have crippled ecosystems, and Pentax AF is perennially sub-par.

        • M. Sauvage

          You’re right, I was just responding to the comment from Wilson above that 8 fps was saying it was impressive for this class of camera (I don’t think it is).

          • M. Sauvage

            On Sony A ecosystems, yes it is crippled, but you still have a lot of options (cool to have the 18-35mm Sigma ART with in-body stabilization) and it can suit a lot of people just like Nikon or Canon.

            Pentax really need to work hard on AF and new lenses…

            On a side note, Nikon also need to work on new ultra-wide-angle zoom for APS-C and a new standard f/2.8 zoom, the 17-55mm is old and really show his age on my D7100…

    • Allen_Wentz

      It probably depends on how expensive it is to include and what the plans, if any, are for a D500s.

    • I would by happy if they gave 6-7 fps and a bigger buffer

  • Spy Black

    Somehow I feel the D750 is going to get the D5 sensor like the D7xxx series is inheriting the D500 sensor.

    • br0xibear

      Not sure, I think the D810/D500 body will get the D5 sensor.

      • Graham Blaikie

        That would be a baby D5 which would clash with the D500. I don’t think Nikon will go there.

    • Graham Blaikie

      I seriously hope not. The current D750 sensor is superb, the complete all-rounder with the widest dynamic range. I think the D5 sensor is for high frame-rate photography and optimized for high ISOs at the expense of low ISOs where the D750 is very strong. D750’s successor should keep to the same sensor with Expeed 5 giving it a boost.

      • Delmar Mineard Jr

        Very logical and I agree with the comments about the D750 sensor being superb.

      • Spy Black

        I hope not as well, but it seems Nikon may not have a choice on sensors. Hopefully I’m wrong, but sticking the D500 sensor in the D7500 seems to indicate consolidation in the production pipeline.

        • ITN

          Since camera sales are down, it does make sense to utilize fewer different sensor types to cut down on unnecessary development costs. Putting the D500 sensor in the D7200 successor makes some sense since it has been shown to give good results even at high fps (which has always been a limitation in the D7x00 line) and its performance is reasonable across a wide range of ISOs. However, unlike the D500 sensor, the D5 sensor is very specialized (high speed & high ISO) and it doesn’t make much sense to use it on a general purpose camera such as the D750. The D810 and D750 successors ought to have phase detection on the image sensor for better live view and video AF which means new sensors. Anyway it it interesting to see what they come up with but I very much doubt it will sport the D5 sensor.

  • GirchyGirchy

    If they increase the grip size and keep weight down, I might need to break my D7200.

    • MissAshot

      It looks slimmer. Hard to tell… if the ergonomics are good then this must be the king for hobbyist. D7xxx series are awesome tools but are pretty heavy. I woukd do fine with d7000 specs in good ergonomic package

  • John

    Nikon should announce D8xx or 9xx soon or else it’s gonna lose to GFX 50S.

  • Captain Megaton

    With the DX 18-140!?!?

    • Mehdi R

      Comes as kit lens with 7xxx series.

    • Allan

      18, not 16. I don’t understand your comment.

    • Spy Black

      Nasty lens.

  • Markus

    If this picture is an indication of the look, will we see a heavily modified look? The left element looks more like a FM/FE look than from previous D7xxx models.

  • TwoStrayCats

    Its all starting to happen now…

  • Mehdi R

    Very similar to D750 from this angle, I think it has deep grip like 750 and 500 🙂
    And glad they didn’t remove IR like D5600 as I noticed IR receiver.

  • Winslow H

    There definitely seems to be something different with the body compared to the D7200.

  • br0xibear

    This D7500 looks a hell of a lot like the D750, maybe they’ve put the D500 sensor inside the D750 body after all ?

    • MB

      How? I seems only a slightly modified D7200 to me …

      • br0xibear

        I think some people are seeing D750, others D7200…they’re all pretty similar.

        • MB

          True … why change something that works well …

  • Harsh Patel

    This will be interesting only if they brings in some key features of 80D & A6500. D7xxx has been a great series but Nikon should focus on present & future now. There is no need to fill the gap by stepping down the best in class D500. Instead why not to go out of the box & compete with rivals:)

    PS:some key features I want to see in upcoming D7xxx
    -OSPD-AF system
    -120fps FHD video(more useful than 4k in my country)
    -4k(obviously!)
    -fully articulating touch display
    -dual card slots(already provided by Nikon)
    Pricing around A6500 would be fine I guess.
    Does anyone else think Nikon should do it this way?

    • Thom Hogan

      Is 4 out of 6 bad? ;~)

    • 1741

      Other than a decent price none of the above, dual card/ video/on sensor af etc all put the price up an are features i’ll never need,

    • Allen_Wentz

      I respectfully disagree. My guess is D7xxx is a proven moneymaker Nikon should NOT break in the middle of a shrinking camera market. IMO:

      1) Upgrade the D3xxx, D5xxx and D7xxx cost-effectively, such as by using the excellent 21MP D500 sensor; maybe dropping one of those lines unless sales forecast as solid for all three. And by investing resources into making SnapBridge work properly and be consumer-friendly.

      2) No change in routine state-of-the-art Dx, D8xx and D5xx upgrades. Except maintaining good QA/QC of course.

      2) Take the resources intended for DL and invest in a new Nikon mirrorless system of some kind that will accept the F lens mount one way or another. Even making a kludgy lens adapter available would do it, but Nikon’s superb hardware engineering generally has no need to kludge.

      Those steps would maintain the solid Nikon products while showing initiative to invest in new forward-thinking hardware.

  • Patrice Ngangula de Lemos

    I don’t see the need for this product in the market… Maybe 12%? A pro-body high-res D3X replacement would change some things for Nikon, I’d think so.

    • Piooof

      Nikon makes money on volume sales. A D5x would sell in thousands. This is not what makes Nikon profitable. Of course, the high-end helps drive the rest of the sales, but it’s a niche market. Actually, the D7x00 may be the most lucrative segment: expensive enough for margins to translate into sizable cash, and with enough volume. The D3x00 and their rock-bottom prices may not be as lucrative as a whole, even if they sell in larger numbers.

      • Thom Hogan

        Yes and no. A US$6500 camera that Nikon sells 50k units of the first year is nothing to sneeze at. Especially when all the R&D is basically the sensor.

        I’ve analyzed this before—though it needs to be updated to the new numbers of the shrunken market—but while Nikon makes most of their money on DX, FX is a stable stream for them and absolutely should be shored up in every way possible, as it’s the one place they’re not losing sales.

        I’ve also pointed out that product line rationalizing sometimes means that you have models in the lineup that underperform the others, but are there to make it clear that you’re competitive with everyone else. Say the D5x was a 70mp beast. Wouldn’t that put a bit of a stake through the 50mp MF heart?

        That’s the issue that Nikon faces: nibbling at them from both ends now. You have to shore up both your positions at the end, and fill the middle well.

        • Sawyerspadre

          It’s also a good thing to have a few people using the word ridiculous in reviews. Ridiculous resolution, ridiculous speed, even ridiculous price can create buzz about your brand.

          It creates more buzz, and revenue than introducing nothing.

        • Piooof

          You know better than me that a 50 MP medium format sensor, even by the smallish standards of the digital MF, will outperform a 70 MP FX one, like a FX sensor will outperform a DX one. So a $7k 70 MP D5x may help position Nikon as “ahead of the game”, but would that translate into a commercial success and be more profitable than a $3k D850 with e.g. 50 MP? I’m not that sure, so I believe Nikon will first work on the D820/850/whatever it’ll be called.

          • Thom Hogan

            I’m not sure I do. In looking at D810 (36mp FX) versus GFX (50mp MF) samples closely, I’m seeing more lens difference than sensor difference, all else set equally. Now we don’t necessarily shoot FX and MF the same way, just as we didn’t in the film era. But exposed correctly with the right lens, the D810 really holds up well against the GFX.

            Given that we’ve been getting lenses that are superb lately, I’d really like to see what the 19mm PC-E would do on a higher resolution D5x/D8xx. I believe that it would be spectacular. Moreover, the lens choice that FX offers is enormous while MF is very limiting. I strongly believe there’s room for high resolution FX/full frame done right.

    • Mike

      The problem Nikon has now with high res D#x bodies is how to price them. As it is, the D5 is priced (depending on your market) near what a Fuji or Hasselblad MF camera costs. Nikon has the potential to bring a high res, 35mm based, pro body to the market that will cost more than a mirrorless medium format. Bit of a head scratcher. What Nikon has going for it in this regard is staying in the Nikon ecosystem. Lenses, batteries, flash, flash triggers, AF dynamics don’t have to change with a high megapixel D5. And then what? A 36mp or 42mp D5x for $9000? The pixel counters will compare it to a much less costly Canon 5DsR. Or a 35mm based 50mp camera still doesn’t have the same IQ as a 50mp MF camera. Not withstanding factors like desired DOF etc, pricing a high mp D5x will be tricky.
      For me personally, 36mp is about the limit I would used for FF cameras…. If I need to look at 50mp or higher cameras, I’d look at the new crop of MF cameras.

      • Scott M.

        Where can I get a Hasselblad for $7000?

        • Mike

          I’m sure there are some film bodies going for less. :-). I prefaced my comment by saying “…. depending on your market….”. And, I generalized by saying “near what a F/HB….” In Canada a D5 is about $8000 CAD. Maybe a bit more. An X1D, body only is about $11,000 CAD. A Fuji GFX is $8500 CAD, body only. So pricing a hypothetical D5x would be tricky to make attractive to the right buyer.

          • Nyarlathotep

            Yes, trickier concern from the perspective of someone new to that tier of photography. But for the working professionals, which is where the Dx line is aimed, photographers want a body that fits their lenses and accessories, so the pricing on the Dx line is pretty inelastic when compared to other high res options. Even if the D5x was $10K, I don’t think you would see much in the way leakage to Fuji or GFX by pros.

      • Thom Hogan

        I think that problem is solvable: D5x for US$6995 at 70mp, D850 at 48mp for US$3495. I’d really love to see what the 19mm PC-E does on both those ;~).

        • El Aura

          I don’t know, that is awful lot of different sensors for Sony & Nikon to have developed and produced for a late 2017 lineup: 42 MP (A7rII), 48 MP (D850), 70 MP (D5x), 20 MP (D5), 12-16 MP A7sIII, assuming that the A7III and D760 stay at 24 MP.

          • Davo

            What’s if the D500 DX sensor was designed to be scalable to FX which means development costs for the D850 sensor were already factored in. But the FX version for D850 may still be tuned differently.
            Which leaves just development cost of new tech for a D5x sensor that will trickle down to future Nikon models.
            The future D750 successor may just inherit a further fine tuned version of the existing 24 or 36mp sensors.

      • KnightPhoto

        Mind you, if Nikon went all out with a 72MP D5X sensor, it would be exceeded only by the Phase 1’s? That might justify the price:
        72mp
        16bit raw
        ISO 50
        and DR besting any other DSLR and the Fuji, Hassy, Pentax 645?

        Anyhow I sure can’t use the CDAF of the Fuji (and not sure how the Hassy and 645 focus). CDAF is too much of a compromise for me, but then again I’m not the target market – just thinking out loud here about a halo product for Nikon.

    • Allen_Wentz

      I tend to agree with Patrice that a D5x would be a good thing. Not for total sales volume, but as a relevant part of what has been one of the world’s best camera lines.

      Why not fully capitalize on the D5’s excellence?

      • ITN

        Few would buy it, as it would be 2-3x the cost of the D8x0 and probably have similar specifications (because of the A7R II and EOS 5Ds R, Nikon must make an up to date high resolution FX camera in the price class of those cameras). Most people care very much about the price-performance of a product and very few people prefer the large body in this type of a camera. This is why the D3X line was discontinued.

        • Thom Hogan

          See my comment above. I’d buy it.

          • ITN

            Yes but would you buy 100000 of them to pay for the cost to develop it? When Nikon made the D3X you complained that they don’t make a compact high res FX. They do, now. You can’t have both at the same time because the less expensive variant eats practically all of the sales of the more expensive model with similar specs. The less common and necessarily more expensive version would likely increase the price of both models. So by making both, they cannot then compete against a manufacturer who streamlines and makes just one fast and one high res model.

            • Thom Hogan

              I believe I’ve been consistent on my position. I want speed/pixel variations in both body styles. As for my “comment above,” it appears you missed my suggestion that a D810 followup be something like 48mp while a D5x be something like 70mp. You can most decidedly make both models and make that work in the market. But you have to try.

  • T.I.M

    20MP interpolated ?

    • HotDuckZ

      No it not made in-poland.

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      reminds me of the Atari ST with 16 colors out of 512 where using Degas Paint it interpolated this out of a palette of 4096.

      Although this was back in 1987’ish and my memory may not be 100% ticked on with this

  • KnightPhoto

    Like to see if it has Group Autofocus (D7200 does not)

  • Gregory Roane

    Is it just the angle or processing of the photo, but does the monkey skin on the grip and body seem … exaggerated? I have seen non-skid on flight decks smoother than what this camera appears to have…

    • TwoStrayCats

      That is Nikon’s new Hurricane Grip, a wet-weather posi-trac, grip surface that will allow you to hold on to the camera even if gangsters are trying to steal it.

    • Thom Hogan

      Sad that photographers don’t note lighting source via the image they see..

  • CaMeRa QuEsT

    This is the body that the D7200 should have had from the beginning.

    • big bawi

      huh?

      • Michiel953

        I thought CaMe etc was pretty clever deducing that from this image

        • big bawi

          but why are you assuming the d7500 gets the d750 body?

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            D750-like, not the exact D750 body. In the picture, the mirror box and the side of the body make a 90° angle junction, exactly like on the D750, whereas on the D7000/D7100/D7200 they smoothly blend together, exactly like on the D600/D610.

            • Thom Hogan

              There appears to be a subtle squaring up of the angles on this D7500 photo, which is a move away from the swoop design Nikon was gravitating to, but I don’t see any change in position of body parts. What we can see of the left side doesn’t seem to show the deep grip cutout of the D750.

            • CaMeRa QuEsT

              I wouldn’t see the point for Nikon to re-design the body and not let it have their latest ergonomics, which I believe have been universally praised. The D7200 is the last of the polycarbonate bodies to not have migrated to carbon fiber, which this D7500 should certainly use.

            • Thom Hogan

              carbon fiber is not equal to changes ergonomics, just to be clear.

              Personally, I’ve not liked the constant small changes to body contours and control positions. I don’t think anything’s changed in 50 years of SLR/DSLR handling that warrants the constant changes we get.

            • Allen_Wentz

              +100

            • Nyarlathotep

              Thom doesn’t like his cheese moved. Keep that cheese right where it is unless you have a very good reason to move it Nikon. 😛

            • Thom Hogan

              No, I don’t like moving cheese. But I also wonder what all that cheese moving is actually accomplishing when the body design was mastered in the 90’s; is it just to keep the engineers doing something? If so, then something’s wrong with the management approach from the get go.

              I suspect that most everything that Nikon does is solely for one reason: cost cutting. A penny here and a penny there, and the users won’t ever notice that we moved or changed anything… ;~)

            • CaMeRa QuEsT

              Nope, and I’m not implying they are. The 1st. gen carbon fiber bodies (D5300/D3300 and the D3400 which re-uses the D3300 chassis) didn’t have the deeper grip/thinner body of the later carbon fiber bodies.

              I personally prefer the newer ergonomics, but then I only own a single body at any time, but I totally understand your point about Nikon moving your cheese all the time, Canon is more constant in this regard. I’ll blame Giugiaro for all this mess, as Nikon had already perfected the SLR ergonomics and cosmetics with the F2.

            • Nyarlathotep

              It certainly is a lot easy when one uses the same body consistently. But going between two or three different bodies frequently can create a lot of disconnect. I find my fingers on the wrong buttons all the time.

            • Sawyerspadre

              Who knows, maybe it shares the battery grip of the D750?

            • big bawi

              oh ok. didnt notice that. i hope you’re right! i cant stand my d7200 small body, although, im not upgrading this year.

          • Michiel953

            I’m not.

      • CaMeRa QuEsT

        The D750 came to market before the D7200 and I was fully expecting the D7200 to come with a body similar to the D750.

        • Mehdi R

          I was expecting that too and it was a disappointment for me that time and I didn’t upgrade to D7200, the wait was well worth it 🙂

    • Gregory Roane

      CQ, looking at the door slot configuration (headphone door on the bottom) and IR sensor type and placement (triangle vice round), this appears to be a repurposed D7200 body, so this IS the body the D7200 had from the beginning, I guess….

      • Thom Hogan

        No. It’s Headphone/GPS at the bottom. Mic/USB at the top. HDMI in the middle. Same as the D7200.

        • Gregory Roane

          Okay. But, that is what I said – just with less detail. 😉

  • Michiel953

    That pic is a lot less than informative.

    • Thom Hogan

      True. At that angle with that level of JPEG compression and crushing of blacks there’s little you can tell. However:

      The same port configuration is present. The IR sensor has changed in size/style. The Shooting Method dial under the Mode dial has changed style. The SnapBridge IDs are there. Pop-up flash seems to still be there.

      The lens makes it difficult to tell, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fn button moved.

      That’s about it. While some are saying they see more D750 influence here, I’m not seeing it, but generally you wouldn’t see it from this angle.

      • HD10

        I expect that the D7500 will likely have the same deeper grip design as the D5500/D5600, D750 and D500.

        I do wonder however whether the D7500 will have an AF joystick similar to the D500 and the D5.

    • That’s all we got for now.

      • Michiel953

        I know, but look at all the conclusions drawn from it!

      • Eric Calabros

        Nokishita says June release, is that true?

        • Captain Megaton

          Most likely, barring another DLpocalypse.

        • no idea, but I believe them

    • Captain Megaton
  • Piooof

    Hopefully it’ll have better dynamic range and color sensitivity than the D500 at ISO 100.

    • Allen_Wentz

      The lower level D7xxx series does not need to exceed the D500 at anything. But perhaps the slower frame rate and evolving tech will allow what you ask.

      • Piooof

        It needs to match or exceed the D7200 in terms of basic IQ. That means 2/3 of a stop better dynamic range than the D500 at base ISO. I’m holding my breath, because I don’t care whether a speedy new AF will allow neatly focussed 8fps bursts, but I do care about portraits and landscapes.

        • Nyarlathotep

          I am not sure it really “needs” much better dynamic range. The D7200 is just a tad more than 1/3 stop (0.4 stops) above the D500 at base ISO. I think I’m good with the D500 sensor in the “D7500”. It is a solid sensor with benefits over the venerable 24MP sensor in the D7200.

          • Piooof

            DxOmark tells me 0.6 stops rather than the 0.4 stops of Bill Claff. I don’t know who I should believe. But both agree that you’d get about that in favor of the D500 at ISO 1600. It may sound a good trade-off, because you need these EV more at 1600 than at 100. But I know the statistics of what I’m shooting, and I don’t often push into > ISO 800. So… it’s not perfectly obvious why a D7500 would be a wiser choice than a discounted D7200 + a $500 fast lens.

            • Nyarlathotep

              Fair enough, I can see the point.

      • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

        Probably see 6 FPS at full APS, but 7 or 8 Fps with an extra battery grip or in the 1.3 Crop mode.

  • Senor Magnifico

    Don’t expect anything revolutionary from Nikon. Just face lifting.

    • Mehdi R

      I don’t think so, this will be new king of DX in terms of MP and Dynamic Range. Honestly I think it will come with brand new sensor.

      • David

        So the D7X00 series will go from Sony to Toshiba back to Sony (I think, or at least modified Toshiba) and then a new sensor? Different from the 20mp one in the D500 meaning no way to spread R&D costs across multiple products?

        Though curious as to if anything from the Samsung NX1 has trickled down to Samsung competitors.

      • Nyarlathotep

        I don’t think that’s in the cards. They are likely going to use either the 24MP or the 20MP sensors already in use in other bodies. Maybe with minor tweaks. Probably the 20MP sensor in the D500 to get to 4K video. Peter seems to be leaning towards the 20MP sensor.

        • Allan

          Peter …and Thom have information that we don’t have. They are not just speculating.

          • Nyarlathotep

            No doubt, Thom is probably under NDA and Peter has a likely reliable source.

            • nwcs

              Thom has always said he will not sign an NDA with a camera maker. However he says he respects the NDA of the people who he talks to.

            • Nyarlathotep

              Ahhh, good point.

            • Thom Hogan

              That’s not what I said. I said I am not currently under NDA with a camera maker. Big difference.

              I’ve signed NDAs before and honor them. And, yes, if I know someone under NDA that discloses something to me, I’ll honor their NDA.

            • nwcs

              Sorry. I mis-remembered.

        • Yes, I think the sensor will be 20MP.

      • Mike

        A new sensor requires a lot of R&D and prices that relfect a need for high ROI. As Nikon has stated, their focus (no pun intended) is on profits. Using a known sensor helps increase their profits. Using a new sensor for a midlevel body, doesn’t. It’s not outside the realm of posibilities, but given their new direction, it’s unlikely.

      • Wolf33d

        NO. This is going to be a downgrade in DR since we all know D7200 sensor was a lot better in DR than D500 sensor (which is going to be in this D7500). What a shame

        • Sawyerspadre

          How do we know that? Maybe Nikon was tweaking for speed, and has now learned how to milk more DR our of the sensor? Maybe it’s the imaging chain after the sensor…

          • Wolf33d

            Have you never noticed that for the same sensor gen, more max equal more DR?
            Look at D810 vs D750 for exemple.
            The D7200 is already having the best DR of all the Sony 24mpx sensors out there. It is as obvious as it gets that the 20mpx sensor of the D500 won’t match D7200 DR.

        • Nyarlathotep

          0.4 Stops is not a lot better.

        • Allen_Wentz

          Enjoy perusing silly DxO charts, but if you want to take real-world photographs the D500 sensor will almost always do a superior job of it than a D7200 sensor will.

          • Wolf33d

            What are you talking about. Just look at the dpreview real photo comparison, there is much less noise when lifting shadows in the D7200, really much less. So what do you do except misleading people on the web?

  • eric

    i took a lot of good photos with the dx camera i had years ago. just add some good glass. im sure a lot of enthusiasts will upgrade.

  • Alex Ionas

    Any chance on it not having the 20 mp D500 sensor? Was really hoping for something above 24mp (for my justified needs) and now that the D760 seems to not make it’s way to the market this year I’m seeing as being left with no upgrade options from Nikon.

    • Prasad Palaniyandi

      I don’t think Nikon will go for new sensor. They will use proven sensor and they will work on Processor, AF performance, buffer / read-write speed, Snapbridge, Video, touch screen capabilities. May new texture and tweaks in body style etc…

      • Chris

        Agree. That camera is pretty good overall. The body ergonomic could be improved.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Nothing wrong with the EXCELLENT *21* MP D500 sensor.

      Making the D7500 into an enthusiast grade D500 makes total sense for many reasons. I will be curious to see the body ergonomics.

    • Chris

      In that case expect it to be around ~$1300 USD, which doesn’t feel right.

    • decentrist

      You need more than 24MP in a DX body?

      • Alex Ionas

        Yup.

        • Sawyerspadre

          Interesting, what’s the application? I would have seconded the opinion above that maybe FX is the ticket.

        • decentrist

          sure you do Ansel

    • Nyarlathotep

      Might want to look towards FX for that.

      • Alex Ionas

        Might be. Waiting for the D760 or D820 for that. 🙂

        • Sawyerspadre

          Seems a D810 would do nicely…

          • Allen_Wentz

            Yes a D810 or D750 are each a great solution, but I agree with Alex that I would wait to see D820 and/or D760 then decide.

            What I do not think is an optimal solution is a consumer-grade D7500 with extra pixels.

    • MB

      Why, what would be your justified needs?

      • Alex Ionas

        Landscape, architecture and commercial. For comercial a bigger body isn’t a problem but for architecture and stock I would prefer something to the max. size of the D7x00 line or the D7x0 line seeing as I usually have to lug them around.

        • MB

          Ok … but the question was why would you need more megapixels? Not why you like D7x00 body size …

    • Allen_Wentz

      Sorry, but IMO that is just wrong thinking. If one is buying a new body for professional usage at wide and normal FOV FX is preferable, by a lot. And this coming from someone who shot almost every kind of commercial work with a DX D2x, owns D3 and D500 and loves both bodies.

      DX FOV rocks for tele of course, but my guess is the pixel pitch may be about at maximum density for today’s tech using non-exotic lenses with the 21 MP of the D500.

  • How mad is everyone going to be when it’s just a D7200 with SnapBridge.

    • Mike Gordon

      Amen…

    • nwcs

      Well, like the D5500 from the D5300 they may also remove functionality.

    • TwoStrayCats

      Snapped Bridge has a lot of potential. Just imagine your D7500 flashing “incoming call” on your viewfinder.

    • br0xibear

      How mad were you when you found out it’s just a D7200 with SnapBridge?
      lol

    • Allan

      I think Peter’s specification rumors are correct. He has an excellent track record.

    • No, I am pretty sure the D7500 will not be 24MP.

      • ZR

        May be it’s going to be “a D500 with consumer body and controls”; with one aspect of it better than the D500 (built in flash, perhaps :D).

        • Allen_Wentz

          1) A built in flash would be a _downgrade_ of the D500.
          2) Lack of “consumer body and controls” is what makes the D500 what it is.

          • ZR

            I was referring to the D7200 successor, but I agree with your comments regarding the D500.

      • Mehdi R

        What is the highest MP for Sony/Toshiba APSC sensors right now?

    • Thom Hogan

      It’ll be more than that. But…I don’t think that it will be enough to keep some people from getting mad ;~).

      • Sawyerspadre

        Is there anything that could?

        • Thom Hogan

          Well, Nikon is in a small box of their own devising now. Like Apple with the Macs, there’s no pleasing everyone all of the time, so you’re correct, it’s unlikely there’s any D7500 update they could do that would truly keep everyone happy.

          That said, the D7500 is the most important of the models in Nikon’s lineup to not goof up. The lineage here drops all the way back to the N8008, basically, but certainly back to the D70. It’s sort of the core enthusiast model: affordable but highly capable.

          Given that the current upgrade median is just over two generations now, the D7500 has to win over D90 and D7000 holdouts, and pull in as many D7100 users as possible. It doesn’t matter as much what D7200 users think.

          • Tony Beach

            Wouldn’t the best appeal to 90 and D7000 holdouts just be a less expensive D7200?

            • Thom Hogan

              It might be, especially given the likely price differential. But that’s how Nikon rolls these days, leaving an overlap (or more) between camera generations to try to catch those iterators.

            • Allen_Wentz

              If the way Nikon is rolling now is to evolve D100/200/300 to become D500 then Nikon is implementing a good plan.

          • A Blanchet

            I am a D7000 owner looking to upgrade. If the rumoured specs are right, I am left wondering why I would pay about 400$ (i.e 40% of a D7200) more for a D7500 when the D7200 would be about as good.

            – IQ should be about the same as D7200 (and D7200 is probably a tad better below ISO 400).
            – Tilt/touch screen is cool, but not worth $400 .
            – 6 FPS is enough, if I needed more, I would go for a D500.
            – Flimsy snap bridge definitely does not worth $400.
            – I do not care about 4k.

            So, maybe that’s just me, but the sole purpose of the D7500 seems to be to lower the price for the D7200… The only way that a D7500 would be worthwhile over a D7200 is if there are enough niceties from the D500 to make it attractive to pay a bit more. But then, who would buy the D500?

            • Thom Hogan

              There’s a big enough jump between the D7000 and D7200 that it makes for a very reasonable upgrade strategy. Just be a little patient on prices. Generally when a new generation comes in like this, the previous generation actually temporarily reprices upward for awhile until the price/demand coefficients of the two models are determined.

            • A Blanchet

              Thanks for the tip about price adjustments. Hopefully this will settle before my summer vacations in July.

              I am not going to complain about the D7500, as it seems to be a very nice camera, but it is just not what I need. It falls in between the D7200 and the D500, but to me it’s a no man’s land. You either need a lot of speed, or you can mostly do without. The rest is just marketing, and I would rather have better low ISO IQ performance than 2 additional FPS and a few niceties.

              What brings hope for the future thought is that Nikon seems finally to care about higher end DX. We may finally have some interesting wide-angle lenses!

    • Luis F. Vidal

      There’re people that got mad even with the D500! Some can never be pleased.

    • Sawyerspadre

      It depends if it is Snapbridge done well…could be a real breakthrough.

      • Nyarlathotep

        Have you seen Nikon’s software efforts? I just don’t see them presenting anything better. They just don’t understand software.

        • Mehdi R

          Totally agree with you.

          • Sawyerspadre

            True, they are slow, but they’ve been working on Snapbridge for around two years. At some point they may get it right…

            • Nyarlathotep

              Just like Capture NX??? They have had 11 years to fix that POS. And it is still a POS.

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              To be fair Capture NX-D is not bad software and it’s free, shame that Nikon didn’t buy Nix or whoever was responsible for NX-2 especially the excellent Control Points.

              A few things in their History that somesay they made a %^%^^% hash of, e.g., Nikon DL, etc

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              Should have done the DL series less ambitious 2-3 years ago and upissue the models with release 2 / 3 with updated tech as people uptake of the Cameras, e.g., 4K , more advanced AF (like the good stuff from the CX cameras, etc).

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              Sorry for may same so moans…..

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              The D7500 will be a good camera – just want Nikon to be as successful as possible.

            • Mehdi R

              I remember Canon p&s G7X has the ability to change shooting settings and that camera released three years ago I think. Something not available in my Nikon bodies

  • stormwatch

    Something tells me this thing will be 1% better than the d7200 and in the price range of used D500, if not a bit more expensive….well, the choice is clear.

  • Tieu Ngao

    D7500 should be a well-rounded camera in DX, just like D750 in FX.
    At the same time D7500 has to be on par, features wise, with Sony a6500 and Fuji X-T2.
    It’s a tall order, IMO.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Nope. DSLR should not attempt to par with mirrorless. D7xxx should just continue being D7xxx DSLR, state-of-the-DSLR-art at its price point.

      Nikon does need to add mirrorless to its lines, but that is a separate issue from what D7xxx should be.

      • Tieu Ngao

        Why not? Technical difficulty or marketing strategy? Many buyers would make that kind of comparison between DSLR and mirrorless cameras.

        I think Nikon is already too late for the mirrorless game, but it’s foolish not to participate. That’s their dilemma.

        • KnightPhoto

          Nikon is obviously coming with a mirrorless. As inventors (buyers?) of the world’s first OSPDAF that worked for continuous tracking they’ve had the tech for years and years now.

          It isn’t technical difficulty when comparing a DSLR with ML, it’s a paradigm difference. E.g. no vs. flapping mirror, EVF vs. OVF, Electronic shutter vs. a physical shutter, AF sensor module sitting in the floor of your DSLR that get’s the light routed to it via a complicated physical set of components, etc.

        • Allen_Wentz

          What Knight says below. DSLR is physically a different beast and likely should remain different to give buyers a full range of choices.

          • Tieu Ngao

            Everything from mirrorless can be adapted to DSLR, from EVF to electronic shutter, AF module on the sensor, etc. But the manufacturers may see that it’s more cost effective to have the mirrorless and the DSLR as two separate lines of products.

            • KnightPhoto

              Agreed. It is not clear exactly why Nikon has not introduced OSPDAF for use in LiveView, optional add-on EVF (or hybrid OVF/EVF viewfinders), optional electronic shutter, etc. to the DSLR line.

              Cost is probably a big part of it, as you indicate. It may also be that Nikon considers the available technologies immature and have been risk averse to date on implementing anything not seen as top of the line. As I’ve stated here often, if I had these features on my DSLR, for use in the 10% of my use cases where this might be helpful, I personally would not need a mirrorless camera. I’d use my DSLR 90% of the time using OVF and standard PDAF, and 10% of the time using these technologies.

              The D4 has a silent shooting feature within LiveView that I used very effectively (I used a hoodman loupe on the rear-LCD) for concert shooting, but it is jpg only. The D4S and D5 also have this feature, but no other models do.

  • Eric

    What ever happened to product differentiation and exciting news? If the rumored specs are true, I’m not sure that anyone will be lining up to buy this product. We still continue to wait for that piece of Nikon gear that will stop product reviewers saying that you can get this or that and that it doesn’t matter which camera you get. Not good for business if your product is so similar to so many others in the market that it doesn’t make much difference to the camera-buying consumer what they get.

    • sandy

      Find a camera with pro AF/ AND tracking, IQ, ergonomics and lens line up that can touch this camera for the likely $1300 this camera will probably cost. I would take the D7500 (or D7200) over any small sensor camera by Oly, Sony and Fuji, hand down. Without a second thought. Nikon sells more than the three of them combined and the D7xxx line is a big part of the reason they do. I don’t want exciting, that’s my responsibility to produce. I want the best cameras, and that’s why I buy Nikon.

      • Horshack

        A used D500 🙂

        • T.I.M

          There is no such thing as a used D500 because D500 owners spend all their time on NR trying to convince other people that LESS is BETTER.

          • Allen_Wentz

            Nah, no words necessary. Just handle a D500 and any other DX body, and then tell me the D500 is not a superior body.

            • T.I.M

              I fall at the beach last Friday, on wet sand, with my D7200+TC-14EIII+AF-S 300mmE PF+SB900
              Guess what ?
              Not even a single scratch on the camera gear! (I broke my left thumb)

            • Allen_Wentz

              Sorry about your thumb.

            • KnightPhoto

              Get well soon, the D30 x 30 is almost here!

      • Maksim

        “Nikon sells more than the three of them combined”

        You may have old data. FYI, Fuji XT2 is still back ordered, since the inspection of the camera.

        Things change….

        • sandy

          More likely Fuji is getting smart enough to do small runs, so they don’t have to give them away in a year. My opinion stands, They haven’t changed that much.

    • Thom Hogan

      The devil’s advocate would say this: show me a camera at the D7200’s price point that’s better. Better in dynamic range, better in features, better in focus, better in enough things that are important to the actual image.

      The devil’s advocate would say that the D7200 doesn’t need a huge boost to keep its spot. The update won’t be mirrorless, so what DSLRs is it competing against? Canon has a ways to go to catch up on sensor quality, Pentax a ways to go on focus performance.

      Just as with cars, not every model update has to be a blockbuster. Sometimes just making a good thing better is okay.

      • Sawyerspadre

        Probably also true that the D7xxx customer is more likely to be an enthusiast and crave upgrade more than the D3xxx or D5xxx customers. The D500 customer had such a long wait after the D300s, that they probably had a few rounds of upgrading via the D7xxx series before the D500 finally came out.

        The D7500 could do very well, as an upgrade from D90, D7000 and D7100 users.

        • Thom Hogan

          It might surprise you to know that you’re mostly wrong here. The D3xxx/D5xxx user is more likely to update. That’s partly because the D7xxx type models have been pretty much complete and capable dating back to the D70. The D7xxx type user is buying a camera more for long term than the samplers at the bottom of the Nikon DSLR line, who eventually discover or become aware that something was missing they wanted.

          On the other hand, the D7xxx customer is Nikon’s best customer. They’re typically among the most loyal. They just don’t update as often as you’d think, but they will update to the same model when it truly gives them something more than they had.

    • Luis F. Vidal

      Yes, there is a very good chance for this line update. D3XXX and D5XXX can have a substantial upgrade in terms of body features and technical features. Also, sure there are a lot of D7000 that will find even more good reasons to finally upgrade. Even D7100 users that will never need FX or D500 features. D7200 users could perfectly wait more or upgrade to D500 if they consider.

      And finally for the switchers from Canon or any other, this camera with all its features at its pricepoint is a very, very good choice.

      I think that finally Nikon is stopping with the way-too-many-models hysteria and beginning to offer really solid choices.

  • artdecade

    D760 must be due soon?

  • Winslow H

    It will be interesting to see the pricing. What are the chances that this is priced around $900 and essentially replaces the whole D3XXX, D5XXX, and D7XXX lines into one product, or merges the top two lines into one?

    • Allan

      zero

    • Nyarlathotep

      As Allan said. Pretty much no chance. It makes no sense from a product differentiation stand-point. And it would make the recent consumer 5500 and 3400 refreshes at odds with this point

      • Winslow H

        I agree there is little chance, but in a declining market eventually something is going to give somewhere in their lineup.

        • Nyarlathotep

          They probably will consolidate lines, especially as mirrorless eats into the lower end of the DSLR lines, but not this round I don’t think.

          • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

            Possibly do this: D5500, D7500, D500 in DX, then D760, D850, D5 in FX. Possibly adding a Df2 using D5 bits, a high res D5x and maybe introduce a Mirrorless DX camera, e.g., DFM-1, etc and then expand out.

            Trouble is Nikon is quite late to bringing an APS Mirrorless and also to the 1 Inch Compacts and it was a big mistake in canning the DL series.

        • Allen_Wentz

          We need lots more info before we can presume what consolidation of ILC, if _ANY_, is appropriate.

          For instance suppose shrinking sales just shrinks sales but does not shrink shelf space? The management response should be very different than if shrinking sales is _because of_ shrinking shelf space. Note that I use “shelf space” as a broad descriptor.

          To be very specific: my guess is that if Nikon dropped D3xxx, Nikon’s camera presentation at Costco would not change to showing 2 Nikon models in the space where there used to be 3 Nikon models. Instead the old D3xxx space would have Canon or Sony in it.

          Also we do not know how difficult/easy it may be to maintain 3 lines versus two. E.g. each could be made on the same fixed-capacity assembly line at different times, yielding little benefit to deleting a model; or the opposite could be true with three different assembly lines, one line about at EOL anyway.

          And all the myriad other things that enter into what makes profitability make our hypotheses without data pretty silly really.

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      probably £1200 or $1300 usd – find out soon thou

    • Luis F. Vidal

      Zero chances. They must keep the D5XXX line. But the D3XXX should be eliminated, there’s no reason for that line.

      • Allen_Wentz

        I would need to be looking at sales and profit margin data to decide whether or not two of the D3xxx/D5xxx/D7xxx models should be combined. And also see how much manufacturing cost the swivel display adds.

        Keeping a good quality low-price entry into ILC is absolutely critical. That body should maybe even be a loss-leader to get folks into Nikon – – forever. Like my first Nikkormat…

  • 120_300 OS for nikon

    But not the AF system of D500 strange ?

    • sandy

      Product differentiation. The AF of the D7200 is pro level in its own right. But you can’t make it too good, and kill the D500 sales.

    • manattan

      The AF system requires a second processor in the camera. It is unlikely to trickle down at least for years to come.

    • Mehdi R

      I think that 51 focus points will be All Cross Type, not the previous one on D7200. Canon just announced T7i(beginner DSLR) which rivals Nikon D5xxx series with 45 all cross type focusing system..

      • John Albino

        Actually, the D7200 has 15 cross type sensors. You may be thinking of the “only” one that supports AF at f/8.

  • Trent Mitchell

    DX lenses?

  • and Nikon is still selling the D7100: http://bit.ly/2oNEqmK

    Why? Leftover inventory after all those years?

    • MB

      Yeap … starting the production line is expensive, so once started the sensible thing to do is to make as much as you can … brand new D90 was available only a year or so ago …

    • Ric of The LBC

      Funny, I went into the local camera store today at lunch. I pop in every few months to see if they have any Nikkor manual focus lenses. I noticed a new boxed D7100 mixed in with the rest of their Nycon cameras.

    • Mehdi R

      Actually many people here buy new D7100 instead of D7200 because of $300 price difference, And I know a lot of people went for Canon 80D because of tilting screen for videography so the D7500 will be game changer in this category

      • Chris

        I pretty much believe in videography, an m43 camera will hold up very very well even against A7s. Why d7500 after all.

        • Mehdi R

          Because a lot of people have Nikon lenses and prefer to use them on Nikon cameras just like me 🙂

          • Chris

            You could adapt? I know a person who tested gh4 against d5 in video quality. Gh4 with kit lens is way sharper…. Nikon is the way to go if you only causally use video.

            • Mehdi R

              I shoot video occasionally but speaking of m43 most of people strongly prefer APSC sensor..

            • Chris

              Cine camera are using super 35 and produce much nicer 4k video than some FF. Format doesn’t stop smaller sensor from being serious and superb tools for videography. But for home video clips, those are over-kills. Average users won’t figure out a proper workflow.

              If I have to pick a low budget camera just for video, I will leave Nikon out of the choices and look at m43 with my nikon lens adapted or use native lens.

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              Sony A6300 and A6500 are good for 4K Video and can get some decent results with the kit lens offering and also not bad with the zoom 18-200 lenses. You can always sell / upgrade the kit at later date with more expensive FE / E mount glass.

              Although I do like the innovative Macro Lite EFS lens Canon announced yesterday – hopefully Nikon can improve the DX lenses – bit limited of the offerings at moment or bit old sort of lenses in DX brand, e.g.,fisheye, etc.

            • Chris

              It’s just gh4 an overall better and cheaper kit compared with Sony.

    • Sawyerspadre

      I think this is intentional. You can buy:

      D7000 with low shutter count $400
      D7100 $696 new
      D7200 $759 refurb
      D7200 $995 new
      Plus gray market at $???

      Soon D7500 at $1399 or $1299.

      There is a D7xxx for every budget!

      • Nyarlathotep

        LOL. Nikon inventory management at its finest.

      • Aldo

        Im selling a beat up d7000 for 200 bucks =)

        • T.I.M

          I’m selling 3 beat up kids for $50 :=)

          • Allen_Wentz

            Each, or for all 3? How badly are they beaten up? What is the warranty?

            🙂

        • Sawyerspadre

          Yes, the $400 units look new and have 5K on the shutter.

    • T.I.M

      Chrysler is still selling jeep wranglers (1941)

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      Also Sony is still selling MK1’s – Mk’3’s of the excellent Sony Rx100 – wished Nikon kept with their DX Programme or did it back a few years ago. A lost opportunity by Nikon again and same with their mirrorless or not offering….

    • AYWY

      That’s an interesting point from the perspective of supply management. For e.g. when a TV or laptop model is discontinued – you really can’t find it anymore. The camera companies could learn something about inventory management from the home electronics and IT departments.

      • Allen_Wentz

        The main point of inventory management is first understanding the consumer. Nikon does not.

  • No D810 replacement = Saved me $3300+ bucks
    Thanks Nikon !!!

    • bgbs

      Nikon has been saving me money for the past 8 years after I bought my beloved D700. Thank you Nikon for never releasing a true successor for my D700.

      • Aldo

        Im still waiting for the true D2x replacement…

        • The D2x was my second digital camera. I can tell you with certainty that this D500 surpasses it in every way. Unless you want the grip built in. Otherwise, this is it.

          (bonus points: the first picture on the wikipedia page for Prince was shot by me with a D2x)

          • Aldo

            That’s impressive. Thanks for sharing.
            As for the d2x true replacement I was just mocking people who are never satisfied with what nikon puts out… and yes I was referring to the grip as the d3 is FF there is no full body DX camera after the d2x.

            • Well there’s no pure, full body, DX camera after the D2x (not counting the D2xs).

              But the D3x supersedes the D2x with more pixels in the DX crop area, higher frame rate, and some useful pixels outside the DX area. One might even say those pixels are a bit cleaner to boot.

              ; D

          • Michiel953

            That Prince shot is great!

        • Allen_Wentz

          I started writing this: [[The D3 replaced my D2x just fine for most captures. Plus I never sold the D2x and it is still usable at base ISO. The D500 IMO is a true, full D2x replacement…]]

          Then I realized that you are correct. As good as the D500 body is, it does _not_ fully replace the D2x body.

      • Fly Moon

        If I were Nikon, I wouldn’t care too much for a customer who refreshes his/her camera for 8/9 years. As if you’re using cassette instead of MP3 player. or PowerBook instead of MacBook!

        • Sawyerspadre

          All the sales count. If someone is a loyal Nikon user since the film days, they have helped ensure the success of the company.

        • John Albino

          Actually, that’s a customer Nikon should care about *a lot!*

          First, that person has stayed loyal to Nikon for almost a decade instead of “leaking”/switching to another brand despite other brands adding dozens of models of varying attractiveness in the interim.

          Next, that customer is pleased enough with the overall quality of such an “old” model to see no need for “minor” improvements Nikon has made in the meantime.

          So Nikon needs to come up with enough “killer” features at a fair price point to entice that customer at least to think about getting a new model.

          Eventually that customer will either die or suffer equipment failure, and without a Nikon model of equal or superior contemporary advantage *at the time* that the D700 had at its introduction, then that customer will be gone forever.

          In the United States at least, car buyers often are extremely brand-loyal even though they only buy a new card infrequently. A “Ford man” generally only buys Fords; Toyota, Honda, Chevy people usually do the same. Why should it be different with camera people?

        • Allen_Wentz

          I disagree.

          1) Those of us buying at the top end contribute _much_ more to covering overhead with each camera than folks buying a low-margin camera at a box store every 2-4 years do.

          2) Top end buyers also add expensive high-margin lenses with some frequency. Low end buyers buy low margin lenses if at all.

          3) Top end buyers do not need the stupid expensive advertising Nikon does so lamely.

          4) Top end buyers need solid evolving state-of-the-art, which is what Nikon excels at. [Except for constantly, stupidly moving Thom’s cheese on us with each new model; the fools do not realize new cheese is a reason for a pro _not_ to upgrade…]

          Nikon is not so good at reading what bells and whistles low end consumers want this month.

          5) Top end buyers want reliability and durability, which Nikon excels at above all others. Nikon sucks at hand-holding support for the kinds of issues that present with low end consumers.

          6) Every pro with a pair of Nikons at a wedding or any other pro venue is a walking advertisement that money does not usually buy. [And countering Moon’s argument, it is IMO the same thing for every Macbook Pro at Starbucks.]

          7) I betcha the kind of superb engineers that brought us the F2, D2x, D3, D810 and a zillion great lenses thrive more on a diet of building D5s than they do building yet another pink Coolpix A. Just guessing.

      • Other than sensor size, the D500 is it so far, for me. Axed the flash. Upped the resolution and ISO (it’s actually a touch better than the D700! Didn’t expect that).

    • Nyarlathotep

      Its not a matter of if, but when. Nikon just gave you a few months to sit on that stack. 😉

    • T.I.M

      Next month (don’t tell Peter, it’s a surprise!)

      • T.I.M

        And I think Nikon may do something special for the total solar eclipse in USA (August 21st).
        If you guys plan to take pictures of it, buy your ND1000 filter now before they run out.

        • Allen_Wentz

          Thanks for reminding us. Which lens do you suggest? I am thinking the 105 (my best glass), 300mm f/4D, or the 70-200 f/2.8.

          • T.I.M

            The 300mm f/4D with x2 converter mounted on a DX camera should do it.
            And of course, a tripod+ND1000 filter

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      Maybe later in year and maybe more than $3300 – probably same or above the Canon 5D MK 4 upon entry release.

      • Allen_Wentz

        Just please not our looney tune doing the taking out.

    • KnightPhoto

      Isn’t the $3300 price bracket for the D850 gone out the window now that Canon introduced the 5D iv at $4000?

  • RH

    I just upgraded about 6 months ago, from the D5000 that I got in 2010, to the D7200…so I’m good for a couple years 😉

    • T.I.M

      The D7200 is the best DX camera on the market, this is few pictures I took today using my D7200 + the AF-S 300mm f/4 E PF

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a1d991f5b00a25d20f1a1c188474dc9af2e7ad6735fb828ce4ab80b1ba9960b.jpg

      • Aldo

        Pilot giving you a thumb up… nice

        • T.I.M

          I am a pilot (not commercial, just private airplanes) but I have not fly for many years (and I better not try to….)

      • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

        Excellent shots and agree – you don’t need the best to succeed – just talent and dedication.

        • T.I.M

          Thanks, the new 300mm f/4E PF is amazing, it works very well with both TC-14E (III) & TC-20E (III)

  • Bronisław Wstęp

    Would you buy camera of D500 specs in D7200 form factor?
    I definitely would.

    • Sawyerspadre

      I doubt that is what will be announced. They want to keep the $500 to 700 difference in place, which is why there will be some spec differences.

      You might get the D500 sensor with 4K in a body that has 51 point AF and a feel very much like a DX sized D750.

      So the differences would be control layout, focus system, lower FPS, square VF eyepiece instead of round.

      • big bawi

        d500 – 10 fps, big buffer, pro build, better viewfinder, amazing af system (demolishes what will be in the d7500)

        its worth the money, i wouldnt bother with the d7500, i have a d7200 and next year ill get a d500.

        but if i didnt have my d7200, i would probably go with the d7500.

      • Bronisław Wstęp

        I know it will be not D500.
        And it makes me a bit unhappy 🙁
        Since the 90s I’m using Canon’s “two digit” cameras. Through the years was several times tempted to switch to Nikon.
        Few years ago my 50D was stolen. Decided to go mirrorless at that time – EM5 was just released. I’ve managed to use it as my only camera for a year before buying next DSLR. Considered D7100 and 70D but decided to stay with Canon (lenses 😉
        Last year I felt in love with D500 – when I saw it on internet. But it was all gone after the first date. I need a camera for making photos – not for self defence.

        • Sawyerspadre

          This might be just what you need….

          Have you shot with D750? It has a really nice feel in your hand, and a great sensor. If this is the DX version of that, with 4K, and some other tweaks, it should do well.

    • DaveyJ

      BEST POINT YET!

  • T.I.M

    Amateurs keep thinking that more the camera have Fps better it is for sport.
    Professionals photographers take great sports pictures at 3 Fps.

    • big bawi

      dude.. we’ve seen your images. so just dont ;). do you really not get why the faster the framerate is, the better? really? do i really have to tell you?. meh. you’re an amateur, didnt really expect more.

      • T.I.M
        • big bawi

          yeah “copyright TIM”, a pretty average image that any 14 years old kid can take. you dont have an argument, you’re just an arrogant amateur that thinks hes any good lol.

          • Aldo

            Let’s see your version of that image?

          • T.I.M

            Thanks !
            I can see that your icon picture was took by a pro.

            • Nyarlathotep

              LOL

            • big bawi

              yeah, nice argument, because you have no valid point you use cynicism and “humor”. be a man and accept the fact that you suck, “professional results”, as i said, i did better when i was 14 (well i dont shoot people swimming, i shoot birds) and no im not gonna post an image here, and even if i did, you could say someone else took that image so whats the point?

              aldo, we’ve already agreed about the fact that you’re a pussy, so just stay out of it you untalented waste of space

            • T.I.M

              If you don’t moderate your comments you may be banned from posting on NR.
              What a lost for all of us!
              :o(

            • Stuart Crowther

              Watch out, he’s got a gun.

        • Ken

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b883dccf6a2bb83bb934bb881bdf0fcb7a11cac875ce842a4b950206c937374.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e0b0aa160113c9b07b7bf082086d45734954642246e7630cb7742bdc3346a17.jpg FPS really matters. I used to shot sports with my D810, but I just found it difficult. I know I am not a professional, therefore I have to rely on machines with faster response, then I sold my D810 and went for the D4s. Usually I burst for 7-8 images and there must be a great one.

      • T.I.M

        True, I’m an amateur of professional results.
        :o)

    • Aldo

      I think 3fps is a bit short by today’s standards… there’s a difference betwen ‘doable’ and optimal fps for sports and action. I can take pictures with a toaster but that doesn’t mean you’ll see me working using a toaster.

    • Ric of The LBC

      Try baseball at 3 fps. I did, sucks

    • Bob Thane

      True professionals know that only one image from the game will be the defining image, and the others will be of little to no value. So they wait for the perfect moment, snap one shot, and leave.

  • mas921

    any hope for better video features (AF, log, etc.)?

    Nikon had a killer “Quad Pixel” on-sensor PDAF patent awhile back, but that’s yet to materialize in retail. Can’t do without the D500 for motorsports; but really holding back on a GH5 (solely for video) because i reeeeally don’t want to juggle around two systems >_<

    • big bawi

      i dont think its gonna happen, mate. but maybe in the future?

    • Mehdi R

      I think we’ll see it on D810 successor

      • Ken

        Nikon should introduce it on their flagship body first

  • Fly Moon

    Admin,

    Shouldn’t your Buying Guide say “Wait” for D7200 camera? 🙂
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e07335a6d9213269ef2a6eef5b2735d24acb6e712e1cef1e4b3e62223705b69.png

    • yes, it should

    • Fixed

      • Fly Moon

        Cool.
        Also “Refresh expected” Should be 2017 instead of 2018.
        😉

        • yes, fixed that as well

  • CaMeRa QuEsT

    Thom’s views that this pictures does not show a D750/D500-like thin body, coupled with the possibility that Nikon might be introducing this camera at NAB, got me thinking that maybe, just maybe, Nikon has given it a stabilized image sensor (IBIS), thus they weren’t able to make its body thinner than the D7200. I am also hoping that Nikon will bring out some kind of on-sensor phase detection, something than even Pentax already has.

    • Mike A

      IBIS and OSAF would be almost half way to 2015 standards. That’s just too wild and crazy for Nikon. We’re not going to get anything more than 4 fewer MP, flippy screen and snap-bridge. It seems like Nikon has just given up

  • Captain Megaton

    Does anyone actually care anymore though?

    Wait wait … I’m not trolling! Just thinking that coming a year and a bit after the D500 and given the existence of dirt cheap D600,D610 as well as attractively discounted D750, the prestige of the D7x00 line is, in 2017, not really what it once was back in 2010 when the D7000 first came out.

    If you want a balls-out DX sport cam, you snag a D500. If you have $1000++ burning a hole in your pocket for a nice new Nikon dSLR, and looking at a D7500 vs D610 for the same price or stumping up a little more a D750 … [Pro Tip : Get the D750…]

    Just seems that the niche island occupied by this D7500 is small and shrinking.

    • RC Jenkins

      I agree. The D7xxx is great in its used form at a price point in the neighborhood of $750-ish & below.

      This would be different if Nikon had some quality fast & (relatively) inexpensive DX lenses–but they don’t.

      (Un?)fortunately, the D750 is a great buy used or refurbished, in the same price neighborhood as a new D7xxx. A slow lens doesn’t do any camera (especially DX sensors) justice; so if you end up buying FX lenses anyway, you’re really not benefitting from a D7xxx purchase. And if you shoot slow lenses, why get a DX DSLR anyway? Might as well go with faster lenses on a smaller sensor at that point. Get a micro four thirds or an RX100.

      The D7xxx was great when the promise of pro/prosumer DX lenses hovered on the horizon.

      So when Nikon releases lenses like:
      -18-45mm F/2.0 DX
      -45-135mm F/2.0 DX
      -10-14mm F/2.0 DX
      -24mm F/2.0 DX
      -16mm F/2.0 DX
      -70mm F/2.0 DX

      (or all at F/2.8 DX or F/1.8 DX instead)

      , each for under $1000 (ideally in the $500 or below range), then the D7xxx will be relevant.

      Until then, I can’t justify recommending this camera as good as it may be.

    • Nikonland

      1000% Agree. This D7500 is so boring. Yaaaaawn.

    • DaveyJ

      I doubt that that market is shrinking anymore than FX.

    • Allen_Wentz

      D610 is a junk body compared to the D500.

      • Captain Megaton

        So is the D7x00.

  • Steve7

    Hope they keep the pop up flash. Just been to Disneyland with my wife and daughter and knew they wouldn’t allow me to take a full frame set up and the extra bulk and ‘fiddle-ability’ of a separate flash – took the D7200. (Got in enough trouble with that by day 2 every time it went up to my eye!). I wanted small, compact and high quality.
    Pop up flash, though not beautiful directional light, was really indispensable. A lot of occasions where the background was bathed in sunshine and my wife and daughter in shade. I’d have lost a lot pictures without it.
    I used the ISO invariance and dynamic range for some occasions, but it’s not much use where you can’t see the expression and subject blink.
    I’ve ridiculed the pop up flash (to a lesser degree) in the past….not anymore – a real bonus, wish my full frame cameras had them.
    Once I figure out how to post a picture I’ll post some.

  • So, would you buy this or the D500

    • Steve7

      If I were solely shooting sport or bif, then the D500 for the better af primarily. But as a general purpose walkabout I’m perfectly happy with the D7200….final quality is supposedly the same on D7200 and D500.
      Love the ISO invariance on the D7200, hope the next version has it…..along with the pop up.

    • nhz

      I’m looking for a D7200 with tilt screen for walkaround and small ‘wildlife’ like BIF, dragonflies. Hopefully D7500 has a sensor that is as good as the one from D7200 (at low ISO) but I’m fine with D500 sensor as well (maybe slightly better thanks to slower readout and some technology improvements?). I would be a lot less interested though if D7500 gains weight compared to D7200.

      I have my doubts about pricing for the new camera. Earlier this year D500 was available for around EUR 1500 for a short time (about $ 1500 in US), a $1200-1300 D7500 would be a tough sell IMHO assuming that the D500 wins on build quality / weather sealing, frame rate, AF system etc. But maybe it works if they add a special feature that the D500 doesn’t have?

    • Allen_Wentz

      One buys the D500 for the pro body. To me body is everything, but not so much for most other photogs. One does need to handle any camera body before making a purchase decision.

    • Steve7

      D7200 costs £829 in the U.K.; D500 costs £1729 – I love the D300, it’s build, weight, button layout in particular, but unless I were shooting a subject that required all cross type sensors, on a very regular basis, the price differential is very hard to ignore here given the final iq is said to be the same.
      The smaller size took a bit of getting used to (D7200) when compared to my full frame bodies (and the D300), but for a 12 hours a day walkabout when on holiday I can’t fault it.
      I can’t imagine what a D7500 would have to offer that would convince me to upgrade (51 cross type sensors would be essential though highly unlikely to happen)….my guess £1300.

  • DaveyJ

    Sounds pretty close to an announcement. In terms of yawn…..no interest ……I seriously doubt that there is a bigger news item on your horizon than this. Nikon’s is after money and sales, and this is probably their Best Play!

  • Ryan I. Peterparkerson

    As much as I want to argue against the “just buy a D500 or D750” crowd. You guys are right. Even though I know Nikon is going to hit a sweet spot price wise for a group of people similar to the D750.

    The Nikon D500 also hits my sweet spot, but the next big Nikon D8xx is going to violate my sweet spot first.

  • A leaked photo at 0.2 MP, in the 10+ MP cellphone era. The lighting is so weird, too, the D7500 is not so big deal to deserve a Df-like misterious one. It does not even look like an official product photo nor taken in secret using a cellphone. Have a feeling this is a big fake…

    OFF: Is somebody here who saw at least ONE good quality photo of a UFO? 🙂 Just curious…

  • Emanuél Sánchez

    4k without crop ✓
    Ibis ✓
    Dual IS ✓
    Tilt/Flip Screen ✓
    Good video focus ✓

    Hahaha, we’re taking about Nikon. I’m so disappointed Nikon.

  • DaveyJ

    With both. A D7200 and a D500 I get to use both. The D7200 has some advantages. But the D500 is one of the world’s best ever cameras. The D7200 about the single best deal. I hope the D7500 keeps the onboard flash! It better have the 4K video, and it will have the flippy back screen!
    SnapBridge though a given is NO selling point, actually made the exact opposite…..

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