What to expect next from Nikon

Nikon Rumors
This is an updated post on what to expect from Nikon in the near future (rumors + speculations):

If you have any additional information on the upcoming Nikon announcements, you can contact me anonymously here. As of today, I am not aware of any upcoming press conference.

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  • If the FF mirrorless isn’t announced this year, I’m buying an a7sII.

    • I am pretty sure it will not be in 2015, if this thing even exists.

      • HD10

        It would be a mistake for Nikon not to have a mirrorless-EVF camera, whether in DX or FX. Sony now has the high-res imaging sensor with built-in PDAF sensors in both APS-C and 35mm “FF” size. While EVF lag remains an issue even with the best EVFs now in the market, a replaceable EVF module that will accept future faster and improved EVFs will help to address this concern.

        Electronic first curtain is currently only available in the Nikon D810 and during live view. This rules out using the optical viewfinder and forcing the user to rely on the rear LCD screen. Live view significantly slows down the shooting process as the shutter resets and the camera brings up the mirror. It’s about time for Nikon to release a mirrorless-EVF camera that does away with the need for mirror-up for handheld shooting while looking out the viewfinder while at the same time using electronic first curtain. I can never quite get the same degree of focus accuracy and absence of vibration (mirror slap and shutter shock) shooting handheld with any of Nikon’s dSLR that I can get using a mirrorless-EVF camera.

        • JJ168

          “I can never quite get the same degree of focus accuracy and absence of vibration (mirror slap and shutter shock) shooting handheld with any of Nikon’s dSLR that I can get using a mirrorless-EVF camera that supports electronic first curtain.”

          Are you looking at them at 400% or something? My keepers taken handheld seems to be fine. Are you saying all the wedding pictures all these years taken handheld by all nikon cameras are not sharp enough?

          • HD10

            I said all that? Really? =)

            • Nikon1isAwesome!

              “Are you saying…” was his question, actually.

          • kaptink

            Spot on. Though even at 400% I v much doubt any difference attributable to slap/no slap would be noticeable.

            • Thom Hogan

              Nope. Mirror slap is real even off a tripod, and so is VR over correction. There’s a difference between looking acceptably sharp and having true acuity.

            • Patrick Downs

              Maybe I need to get more critical with D800 (raws). When I shoot landscape and long exposure (with or w/o cable release) I usually do M-up and exposure delay. I put the mirror up and then trip shutter and wait the 2 secs delay (to allow mirror vibration to dissipate). This seems good, but I don’t really notice a huge difference between it and just using the cable release or timer w/o mirror up. What is your method, if I may ask? Thanks, Thom.

            • Patrick O’Connor

              I think the key word was “noticeable.”

            • Thom Hogan

              Okay, but that’s subjective, not objective. One person’s noticeable is not another’s.

              This really is one of the failures of modern photography, actually. We have no common vocabulary, no agreed upon standards, no way to resolve or talk about subjective differences in useful ways. The camera makers have let “good enough” in smartphones destroy their sales, yet “good enough” is not defined, it’s a vague, popular meme only.

              I grew up with and believe in science. It’s the way we observe, measure, and test the world around us in order to understand and use it better. Now if we want to measure acuity and then test observers to see what level of acuity is actually recognized by 80, 90, 95, and 99% of the population, I’m all for that. But a random commentator on the Internet saying “I didn’t notice anything” is not a useful data point for me.

            • Patrick O’Connor

              In my opinion (as always), one of your more insightful comments.
              While people (including me) make fun of others for pixel peeping, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it and such people will obviously “notice” many more flaws than the average individual.
              Having said that, I believe a more practical approach is, as has often been done, to identify a general rule that applies to the majority of people and allow that exceptions exist.
              In this case, I think that applies.

              Of course, I could be wrong and often am.
              FWIW, I grew up with and believe in God. That’s not to say science is invalid but rather a tool to be used rather than something to “believe in.” But perhaps that wasn’t the intent of your statement.

            • Ephemeris

              ” … identify a general rule that applies to the majority of people (no specific percentage is necessary) and allow that exceptions exist.
              In this case, I think that applies.”

              Well said. That a few notice what a majority do not does not invalidate the position of the few. Mocking and shouting down the few who do notice only succeeds in establishing whether the poster is among the few or the majority.

            • Patrick O’Connor

              Naturally, I agree since most of the time I’m in the minority! 🙂

            • outkasted

              he he he you said acuity…i like the word acuity 🙂

        • brian valente

          “Electronic first curtain is currently only available in the Nikon D810 and only when live view is used.”

          this isn’t true. EFC is available in mirror-up, no live view required. It really should be available with exposure delay, but not there yet.

          • HD10

            Thank you for the clarification. I had referred to MUP, EFC operation while looking through an electronic viewfinder. With a Nikon dSLR, an MUP operation would immediately block the optical view finder.

            • brian valente

              That is true. but handheld you won’t see any benefit from EFC with any camera including Sony. the vibration from the shutter would be a fraction of any handheld movement and completely lost.

              I do agree EFC and EVF in DSLRs is a bit of a hack, i think we all know that. but still can get great results within the limitations of how MUP EFC is implemented.

            • HD10

              My experience has convinced me that a mirrorless camera with EFC will have a significant advantage over a dSLR when shooting handheld due to the absence of a mirror slap and a vibration free shutter release using an EFC … while using a viewfinder (electronic) to ensure focus accuracy (whether by AF or MF).

              I have been using mirrorless-EVF cameras with EFC for some years now and find these easier to shoot handheld with greater AF accuracy and sharper images than any Nikon dSLRs I have used. This is despite the disadvantages of the mirrorless cameras having a small grip and light weight which for me makes handheld shooting more difficult. Contrary to the misconception that the mirrorless-EVF advantage comes primarily from its smaller size and lighter weight BODY, I actually see these as being disadvantageous due to the lack of size where to properly grip a camera and to locate needed buttons and controls. I much prefer a camera with a robust sized grip camera with moderate weight to shoot with. I particularly like the size, grip and weight of the GH3/GH4 (which is bigger than a D7000 and is almost the size of a D7200).

              Yet despite the disadvantages of being light and small (thus difficult to grip), I have consistently been able to get sharper photos using mirrorless camera due to the absence of any mirror slap and shutter shock.

            • brian valente

              I hope you will share with us your results and handheld technique. That would be truly impressive feat to have EFC make a visible difference in handheld shots at any pixel peeping level

            • HD10

              Here’s something that will hopefully help you understand the effect of EFC even on a mirrorless camera:

              http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4134393686/olympus-updates-om-d-e-m1-with-electronic-first-curtain-anti-shock

            • kaptink

              Ah, but be careful there Brian. I run a little gallery in our local pub in which we display photos taken by local practitioners of the art of the shutter. Frequently I have seen customers in the pub studying the images very closely, sometimes with a loupe, muttering about whether shots were taken using MUp or EFC or just plain (horror) handheld in the street!

              I have had to put little labels on my own exhibits that say: ‘Please view this picture from a distance that allows you to appreciate the composition and engage with the image. I’d rather you didn’t pixel peep. If you have any technical questions about shutter settings please contact me on the number below. I apologise in advance for any hint of mirror slap. Thank you.’ It’s a nuisance really, but there you go. Demanding public these days.

            • brian valente

              Great – i’d love to see full resolution examples myself where EFC is noticeable between two handheld shots. Actually, i wonder if that’s really even possible, since there is variation between the handheld you can’t control, but yeah I would love to see that.

            • kaptink

              “My experience has convinced me that a mirrorless camera with EFC will have a significant advantage over a dSLR when shooting handheld”

              ‘Significant’?! Read my lips and watch my head shaking from side to side: No. It. Won’t. It’s all in your head. Take ten images, two EFC and eight dSLR, all professionally shot by the same photog, hand-held. In normal viewing (which is where I would expect ‘significant’ differences to be noticed) no-one will be able to pick the EFC examples with anything more than one in five (ie. random) success.

            • brian valente

              yup

            • AYWY

              “My experience has convinced me that a mirrorless camera with EFC will
              have a significant advantage over a dSLR when shooting handheld due to
              the absence of a mirror slap”.

              Shot an SLT and a NEX for two years. Makes no difference to a Nikon DSLR handheld.

            • Ephemeris

              I shoot a D810, A7R and an A7R II. EFC makes a difference.

            • AYWY

              Not talking about EFC, but sayings about mirror-slap effects while hand-held.

            • Ephemeris

              Then you are wrong still. Mirror slap makes a difference shooting hand-held.

            • AYWY

              Improve the person behind the camera. It’s trivial.

            • outkasted

              thank you

            • kaptink

              ‘…handheld you won’t see any benefit from EFC with any camera including Sony. the vibration from the shutter would be a fraction of any handheld movement and completely lost.’

              Spot on Brian. HD’s fixation with slap and shake is….amusing.

            • Pat Mann

              Shutter shock is often the greatest in the shutter ranges around 1/100 to 1/200 where hand movement can be pretty minimal. Definitely can be a problem with handheld shots.

          • Pat Mann

            And with multiple exposure.

        • Aldo

          Nikon is using a milking until the cow is dry strategy… I think we will see a serious mirrorless until the dslr cow dies.

        • TerraPhoto

          Nikon will release a FF system when they think it is ready for primetime. If you go to Sony because you don’t wish to wait, be sure to stock up on plenty of batteries… the A7 cameras suck the juice out of them faster than mosquitos in Florida sucks the blood out of tourists.

        • kaptink

          But doesn’t an electronic shutter necessitate a more complex sensor with more on-board electronics that increases noise in the image?

          Just asking.

          • outkasted

            i believe it will all eventually balance out. a mixture of digital and analog features.

        • kaptink

          And, by the way, I think this talk of EFC being sharper than ‘conventional’ SLR mirror/shutter is all a lot of bllx. I’ve seen a million shots taken with dSLRs that are absolutely pin-pin-sharp, most hand-held. You can not tell me that two images side by side, one taken with EFC and the other with an SLR, MUp or otherwise, will be distinguishable in normal viewing. Sorry, you can not. Well, you can, but I’d laugh heartily. You want to get a loupe out and pixel peep? Fine. Who does that when viewing photographs?

          Here’s one of mine I took recently. I love it as an image, and others I’ve shown it to do too. Is it sharp? Is it f, though there’s no shake in there, just poor image quality bc of the (manually-focused) not-very-sharp lens and the fact that it’s shot on film, which I still use regularly. (Pentax ME Super, my original from 1981, and 40mm f/2.8 pancake.) BTW the lack of sharpness is dreadful but I only notice it when I zoom in and can see the detail; in normal viewing I see only an interesting (and, I hope, well-composed) black and white photo that captures a moment and tells a little story.

          https://www.flickr.com/photos/markkeohane/17120289094/

          And whether you think this a good shot or not the point is sharpness is not the be-all and end-all of photography. If your technique is good enough to avoid visible camera shake when the image is viewed at 100% then that is sharp enough (I junk most shots that fail this simple test). Composition, light, exposure, choice of subject all far more important than any pixel-counting p’ss’ng contest between electronic and mechanical shutters.

          Just sayin.

        • Vasile Stan

          It seems that mirror has no effect on the image sharpness http://improvephotography.com/2565/what-is-mirror-lock-up-sharpness-test/

        • Nikon should put PDAF pixels on its DSLRs. Mirrorless is merely nice to have but decent AF speed in live view gives you both worlds.

        • Ian Boyd

          It’s about time for Nikon to release a mirrorless-EVF camera,why?,people are getting carried away with the mirrorless camera craze,they say it is smaller and lighter than a DSLR it’s not like they are carrying a sack of spuds around all day.

          • Or maybe Nikon is the smart company that just waits until the mirrorless craze just dies out?

            • Kevin8503

              I am inclined to agree here. Unless they want to put a FX mirrorless sensor in a full-sized DSLR body, I’m going to stick with my DSLR.

              I have normal sized hands (honestly probably even on the small side), but I could not imagine shooting professionally with a mirrorless setup. I prefer the weight and size of my camera and lenses. I would have hand cramps in an hour shooting a wedding with a tiny mirrorless camera.

              EDIT: What I’m getting at is that there are many shooters out there who prefer a full-size camera for comfort and ergonomics.

    • HD10

      Same here as it looks like Sony will finally support a proper RAW (lossless compressed or uncompressed) file option on the A7rII and A7sII.

      • adude

        And there will be a nikon to sony AF lens adaptor too.

      • dclivejazz

        This is great news and makes Sony a consideration for me now, for mirrorless.

    • ZoetMB

      Why? While the video functions look quite nice and although it’s smaller than a typical Nikon DSLR, it’s only 12MP, 1.38 pounds and their pro-level lenses are just as large and just as heavy as Nikon or Canon. Sony’s 28-135mm f4 takes 95mm(!) filters and weighs 2.7 lbs. Not to mention that the body is priced at $3K and that lens is another $2500. Personally, I think everyone gets a bit fooled when they pick up a Sony a7 series with one of the kit lenses, because it seems so small and light and easy to use that it seems like a great walk-around camera. And it is, if you never buy one of the larger lenses.

      But all of the “II” revisions are far heavier than the earlier models. The a7II picked up almost a quarter pound, the a7rII picked up almost half a pound and the A7sII picked up .3 lbs. The a7rII increased by $900 and the a7sII increased by $600. Are they taking lessons from Nikon?

      • HD10

        There are many advantages to using mirrorless other than weight and size reduction (even while dSLRs with its OVF also enjoys some advantages over mirrorless-EVF cameras). These includes among others, dispensing with the need for mirror-up operation before every shot, the ability to use electronic first curtain while shooting handheld using the viewfinder, the ability to use a completely electronic shutter for completely silent shooting. I would be happy if Sony releases a D750 sized mirrorless with a good-sized grip, robust battery, and improved buttons and controls.

        • Eric Calabros

          There is no reason a DSLR cant do many of these things you mentioned. Just because Canikon haven’t worked on them doesn’t mean they are mirrorless exclusive.

          • HD10

            Using current dSLR design, I find it hard to imagine how CaNikon can design a dSLR where one can while looking out of the viewfinder of a dSLR, have a mirror-slap free operation with a dSLR that also has EFC (or completely silent fully electronic shutter), support eye-based priority AF, etc. Bringing up the mirror in a dSLR for a mirror-slap free operation will already block the optical viewfinder.

            I have posted before a wish that Nikon would make a dSLR (with an OVF thus) that can take in an EVF (through the hot shoe perhaps) which can bring up and lock its mirror for a mirrorless-EVF operation. This is effectively a dSLR that is also designed to work as a mirrorless-EVF camera. It is in a sense a hybrid camera that incorporate unto itself the benefits of both a DSLR and a mirrorless-EVF camera.

            Even better than this hybrid OVF also EVF camera is a replaceable module where one can switch between an OVF and EVF. This has been suggested by another poster here at NR some days ago. Given that Nikon would likely like to sell you two cameras, a dSLR and a mirrorless-EVF camera rather than one viewfinder replaceable camera, I think it is more likely that Nikon will simply make a mirrorless-EVF camera. Not only will this be more profitable for Nikon, it would also be simpler to make.

            Being a current user of various Nikon dSLRs, I would welcome Nikon also making a mirrorless-EVF F-mount camera. A D750 sized mirrorless-EVF F-mount Nikon with the grip, controls and buttons of the D750 plus many of the features of the A7rII would be a best seller I think,

            • kaptink

              You really are hung up on mirror slap, aren’t you?

              Look, your hands on the camera are much more likely to create shake. And you eliminate that by making sure you use a fast enough shutter speed. And I’m not talking 1/500; I’m talking good old 1/f. I can hand hold my D700 and 24-70 f/2.8 down to about 1/40 at 70mm on a good day with a stable stance; though I may take several shots when it’s that marginal because I know I’ll get at least one sharp. And by sharp I mean on the nail focus and NO HINT of camera shake at 100% (or even 200% but then I start to see pixelation) in LightRoom. I can do this consistently and, funnily enough, if I eliminate camera shake this way, there is nothing else; no mysterious ‘mirror slap’ shake that I just can’t seem to get rid of, nothing. Just a pin-sharp image. Hand-held and everything.

              Here’s a closing thought; I don’t believe I could get better results with a mirrorless FF/24-70 combo at 1/40 just because it eliminates mirror slap. I still believe the only factor I’d have to deal with would be camera shake from my hands. Maybe because it would be a lighter unit that would be easier, yes. But then pretty sure my Nikon 24-70 2.8 would outdo the Sony glass anyway.

            • jojo

              There was some talk a while ago about Canon having a hybrid VF camera out in the field
              (for evaluation? – but never made it to production). It sounded like you could switch between OVF and EVF in some way. Didn’t make it through to production yet (this was a little before the EOS 7D2 was released).

              Of course a hybrid system not only can enable less mirror and/or shutter shock or silent
              operation, but means the VF can be used for video (impossible without awkward attachments for SLRs). A replaceable modular VF system also sounds an attractive idea, but would need to be very accurate in alignment, and strong.

          • Pancanikonpus

            that’s the reason; thanks sony now listening to their users request since the tri-navi apsc nex7 era. now the 14bit gap to be closed as well soon.

            hopefully canikon continues on their nikon1 and M-system so let sony to be no1 in mirrorless segment 😛

    • Sufyan

      Ok here is the deal, the math shows that the lenses will be around the size of DSLR lenses anyway if they are autofocus and thus that size advantage goes away especially for the Sony lenses. f = focal length divided by diameter of the lens. Nikon Mirrorless lets hope they have a good showing but lets not expect them to change physics. High aperture native Sony lenses are big, period. I went from Sony to Nikon Df because I didnt want to buy a bunch of batteries and I am not going to buy into a system for the advantage of using non native lenses. Image quality is good though.

      • Ric Hammond

        yup. Add lenses then the weight difference between a Df and new A7s is in the 10% range. Add pockets full of batteries then there is no weight advantage. Video, if you need that is the major separator.

        my $.02

        • kaptink

          A worthy $.02, if I may. Video schmideo.

        • Video, & ISO 200k+

          • Ric Hammond

            is what I said, no?

      • HF

        It is not only about fast primes being similarly sized. People realise that you can go smaller easily when accepting manual focus (Loxia, Leica, etc.). Try focusing an Otus consistently in VF, very hard to do.
        Mirrorless offer nice feature making your life easier in some aspects. I like the histogram in VF, eye AF and focus accuracy, for example. I have to say the Batis on the A7ii rocks. I don’t get similar IQ from my Nikons that consistently. My feeling is, that Nikon will need to speed up as Sony will have a full mirrorless system with most lenses required beginning 2016. They won’t give new sensor tech to Nikon immediately, too. So Nikon can only react, not lead here anymore. How long does it take for Nikon to build up a full mirrorless system, unless they release an adapter to mount all existing lenses? Canon has dual pixel technology which has the _potential_ to be used in mirrorless bodies, too.

      • HD10

        Lens size is impacted by the level of performance it needs to deliver given a specific sensor resolution. A good example is had by comparing different lenses of approx. the same focal length and aperture opening, designed for use in the same camera mount, e.g., the Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G lens with a Zeiss Otus 55mm f/1.4.

        Many of the new FE lenses released recently for the Sony A7 series have been matched to higher resolution sensors and thus have been become bigger and heavier.

    • David

      A7*S* II? I highly doubt if Nikon does FF mirrorless it will be a low-light champ like that A7S. If you said A7RII I’d say that makes more sense.

      • Why not? Nikon uses Sony sensors anyway, and by the time the Mirrorless is announced Sony will be announcing the A73 and will gladly start selling its A7s sensors.

        • Thom Hogan

          Why not? Because mirrorless in Nikon’s lineup would have to be priced below the DSLRs. The most likely scenario is that the D610 goes away. That audience isn’t going to want 12mp. They’re going to want small, dependable, fast, lower cost 24mp FX.

    • Aldo

      You’ll swap batteries as often as you used to change film brother.

      • Eric Calabros

        And that was convenient?

        • Aldo

          I didn’t mind it back then… but now I guess we are spoiled with battery life (even without grip) We are able to set the camera and forget it sort of speak….. I saw a guy on youtube with his new sony mirrorless and a case with 8 batteries… reminded me of the film days a little bit. But NO, current battery life on most mirrorless systems makes shooting VERY inconvenient. It may be the single thing holding most professionals from jumping on the mirrorless boat.

    • Ian Boyd

      Seriously?lol.

  • T.I.M

    And what about my D900 48MP ?
    Will I be the only one to get drunk on October 28th ?

    • Ric Hammond

      Spill the beans. Tell us what you know or at least a recap of your previous posts.

      • T.I.M

        I already said what I know about the D900
        release date October 28th
        clean ISO 800 (a real revolution)
        48MP
        4K video
        may have GPS
        body priced at about $3500 (no kits)
        I’ll email the pics to Peter as soon I get there (or I will sell the pics to photo magazines, I don’t know yet)

        • Sure, can’t wait 🙂

          • T.I.M

            or maybe you already know but want to stay out of troubles….
            :o)

            • I just think you should slow down on the jokes.

            • T.I.M

              I know, you’re right, but if I joke about my mother in law, my wife beat me up.
              So it’s safer for me to joke about the future D900
              :o)

            • the problem is that somebody may actually believe you, so I think we had enough D900 jokes for now

            • T.I.M

              ok, I won’t talk about the D900 anymore (great camera by the way…)

            • Oh well, I had heard differently so I was hoping that maybe my source was wrong. I’m now going to enjoy what I have since a D400/900 is not in the going to happen any time soon 🙁

        • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

          This would be good apart from the price ~ hopefully the camera won’t overheat shotting 4K video and hope the Video Fps is at least 24fps and there are improvements to still side like couple more fps, improved AF, etc…. – time to save up….

          • T.I.M

            The D900 use a all new 128 bits processor, it will be able to handle 60fps at 4k and 4.5 fps at 48mp raw.
            I don’t know is the CF cards that we have now can be fast enough, or the D900 may have a huge buffer.
            Anyway I already plan to replace my 2 D800 with 2 D900, I use mainly primes and a 48mp sensor will be great when cropping.
            If the D900 deliver as promised, a $3500 price tag won’t be that bad.

            • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

              Thanks Tim…. I’m getting very excited. Hopefully it will have a SDXC slot and perhaps a XQD slot ?

            • Please don’t get excited, or if you do – go after Tim when this camera won’t get announced next month.

            • T.I.M

              But the D900 is made in Japan, so I guess we can expect a great quality product (probably my last DSLR).
              The D900 will be announced on October 28th, I don’t work for Nikon but I know someone who does (why do you think I married an Asian girl).
              So unless the D900 is delay because of manufacturing issues, we will get it this year.
              To be honest, I prefer Nikon take time to make it perfect, I can wait few more months, I don’t need oil on my sensor (D600)
              But the D900 is made in Japan, so I guess we can expect a great quality product (probably my last DSLR).

            • Pankaj

              I have been attending Nikon Workshops and the word is that in early 2016 there will be something of a game changer from Nikon.Also,it is something that has already been leaked because the Nikon japanese executives were sure that one of the nikon insider leaks it.

            • It must be a new mirrorless solution, I don’t see the D5 being a game changer.

            • Eric Calabros

              It’s hard to change the game with a mirrorless while Sony is already winning hearts.

            • David Weinehall

              Well, a game changer for mirrorless would certainly be good battery life.

            • Thom Hogan

              Focus/viewfinder system changes significantly with the D5. Don’t know if Nikon considers that game changing, but maybe.

            • animalsbybarry

              Where is Nikon sopposed to get this 48mp sensor from?
              I am not aware of anyone making a 48mp sensor?

        • BVS

          There’s just one problem. The world is supposed to end on September 23rd.

    • FountainHead

      Yeah, sure.
      You and the aliens from the planet Mongo.

      • Ric Hammond

        don’t be such a speciesist.

        • Aldo

          Alien lives matter….

          • nwcs

            I think you’re referring to undocumented visitors.

            • Aldo

              … “aliens from planet mongo”

            • nwcs

              You might have missed my pun 🙂

          • Ric Hammond

            I know, right?

      • nwcs

        Someone has been watching their Santo Gold infomercials…

    • Aldo

      bah bye handheld shooting.

    • kaptink

      48MP is dumb and pointless.

      48 Marketing Pixels?

      Your 50″ HD TV is 2MP. 4K is 8MP.

      18-20 would be plenty if only Nikon would give us one of those in a pro body w 7-9 fps. (Yes, a genuine D700 upgrade.) Sigh.

      I, for one, don’t believe you. I may still get drunk on Oct 28th though, just because it’s midweek.

      • T.I.M

        48mp is useful with high resolution Nikon prime lens (like the sharp 200mm f/2 AF-s VR)
        For now I’m using all the pixels I have in my D800 (36mp) always shooting in FX large size files.
        And I build my computers so there as fast enough to handle very large files.
        I think the maximum usable for FX sensor will be about 50mp, more than 50mp you will waist pixels.
        If the D800’s successor give me 48mp and clean 800 ISO then I will be the first one to order it !
        I don’t think that there is a future for pro DX Nikon DSLR, as I said several years ago, there will be no D400.

        • kaptink

          Terrific. And what do you do with your 36MP images? Blow them up to street poster size?

          It’s not the no of MPs it’s the size of the photosites on the sensor. Cram them in and you get a higher noise to signal ratio. Yes, I know, sensors are pretty good these days even when the photosites are down at about 3 microns, but you still get hellish large files and compromised frame rates for, IMHO, comparatively little benefit and at the risk of losing image quality as the light goes down and ISO goes up. But then I’m a general purpose shooter rather than studio specialist. I could possibly see a benefit in using something like a D8xx when I’m out doing landscapes but even then my old D700 does a brilliant job with the pro Nikon glass I use and I don’t need to carry a bag full of memory cards or upgrade my PC.

          Finally, in my view, if you’re using 48MP you want to be doing that primarily when you’re in the studio or in the field shooting landscapes and you intend to enlarge big (because 48MP is not truly needed in any other situation). In neither of those situations would you be remotely interested in performance at 800 ISO.

          • T.I.M

            I have a 13″x19″ 2400dpi printer, 36mp is not extra.
            I will use the 48mp without any doubt.
            And yes, if the new 48mp sensor have 800 ISO as clean as the 36mp 200 ISO then it will be a revolution for digital photography.
            I wish I could share my pictures as a sample but they are for sale and have a copyright.

            • kaptink

              I have a shot on my wall at home. It’s enlarged to 15″ x 21″. It was taken with a 7 year old, 12MP D5000 and the kit lens. It’s as sharp as you could ever need for a piece on the wall of that size; in fact, even if I look closely at the image I can’t see any need for more resolution.

              But everyone who looks at it does so from at least a metre out. At that distance it’s a striking piece which many people comment on. No-one yet has asked me about the resolution of the sensor on the camera used to take the shot.

              Very few people genuinely need 48MP on a 36mm sensor. I doubt you are one of them.

              Availability of clean images at 800 ISO at 48MP on a FF sensor will be an evolution but not a revolution. I stand by what I’ve said; in the sorts of shooting situations where 48MP might be useful you will not be interested in going anywhere near 800 ISO because there will be no need, for however ‘clean’ it is it won’t be as clean as 64. And 64-200 will be all you’ll need.

              Tell me, what will be revolutionary about it? What will a combo of 48MP and clean ISO at 800 enable you to do that you couldn’t already?

              I have something like 1400 pictures on Flickr. They are all copyrighted but I share them. I’m proud of my work and I enjoy getting feedback. I’d rather it was out there than clogging up my hard drive with only me looking at it.

            • Thom Hogan

              Sharpness is not equal to resolution, and ink spreads to mask resolution in most print technologies.

            • vcize

              It kind of blows my mind that there are so many people on sites like this one and forums like dpreview/fredmiranda that spend SO much time on photography but never print larger than 13×19.

              The absolute MINIMUM size that I hang anything in a gallery at is 24×36, and most are larger than that. Further, one thing that I’ve noticed when watching people walk through galleries is that they almost always walk right up within a few inches of the photo after they notice it.

              Sure, if you’re contracting out to hang some wall art in a restaurant it’s usually either not that big or people aren’t getting close to it. But anything you’re selling, people absolutely walk right up to it, and are absolutely more interested in spending big money on really big prints than small ones.

            • kaptink

              There are lots of reasons why most folk don’t make huge prints to hang in galleries. If that’s your thing, perhaps your profession, and you are good enough that galleries will take your work and people will pay hundreds or perhaps thousands of £ for your work and you have the equipment and you have the time to plan and go out and get the shots and you can afford to have your images professionally prepared and presented for an expensive sale then you are not like most amateur or enthusiast photographers, who are the bulk of the people on these sites and forums to whom you refer. You may infer from my words above that many are not (or believe they are not) good enough to produce work that can sell for big money, don’t have a heap of time, can’t afford 36MP cameras and pro glass and fancy tripods and can’t afford to shell out hundreds of pounds to have their images printed and framed in the hope of selling them.

              I think it’s a very arrogant stance to suggest, as you appear to, that the only way to do photography is to print huge and show in galleries. For many there is just satisfaction in capturing an interesting or visually appealing image, having success in getting a decent result thanks to good technique, perhaps sharing it online via Flickr and having someone fave it or favourably comment, perhaps getting the odd half-decent shot in a local pub or restaurant (where there ain’t room for 24×36+). A while ago there was another poster on one of these forums who, commenting on a 365 project I was attempting, told of how he produces just a dozen images a year and does very nicely out of it, but said in a way that suggested that his way of doing photography was proper photography and all else was not, or was perhaps an inferior form of the art. Perhaps that’s you.

              Photography is for most a pastime; a hobby. It means something different to everyone who does it. We all do it for our own reasons and enjoyment. We all get something out of it, even if that’s not a good income from selling huge prints in galleries.

            • vcize

              By default, anyone participating in this conversation about a $3000+ camera has expensive equipment and, because of that, is likely an advanced enthusiast at least.

              Regardless, I’m merely an advanced hobbyist photographer (not my full time job) that has been doing it for around a year. Huge prints can be done with great quality on metal or framed for around $100 nowadays with all the online competition.

              It just seems like people are stuck in this mindset of 20 years ago that a large print requires a $50,000 camera and will cost another $1,000 to print out large. I’m certainly not here to tell people what to do with their work (to the contrary, that falls more in line with the people saying that they shouldn’t make high MP cameras because no one needs those huge MP since obviously, if they’re only printing at 15×21 then everyone else in the world is too). I just find it interesting that people spend thousands of dollars on equipment and thousands of hours on sites like these to produce images that they’re proud of but aren’t willing to spend the extra $60 to make it big enough to actually see up on their wall when sitting on the couch. Creating large, sharp prints is more accessible now than it’s ever been and is no longer reserved for full-time professionals.

              And if sharing with friends on Flickr is the goal then yes, a D900 is probably way overkill whether it’s 48mp or 36mp or 24mp. In that case, why complain about MP in a camera that is clearly not intended for your market segment in the first place?

            • Ephemeris

              It’s pointless to argue with someone who cannot see a difference between a print taken from a 12mp and from a 36mp image.

            • Markus

              Keep in mind, that your 2400dpi printer does not actually print in that resolution.
              It’s a bit as with those old dot matrix printers which claimed to have 360DPI, but already a single dot had approx 1/100 inch, which means they wer not able to exceed approx. 100DPI
              Keep in mind, that labs create photo prints with 300DPI (but real 24bit). Printers have only 4-6 colors and need to mix severall dots to create different colors. Therefore, their real resolution is much worse than 300DPI
              To me it seems you’re some Kind of pixel fetishist

            • T.I.M

              Actually I’m just a professional photographer who graduated in 1989 (France).
              :o)

            • Markus

              The fact that you’re a professional probably won’t change much about the fact how printers work.

              I am shooting only for hobby, but some of my friedns are pro’s too.

              Quite sure you’ll get a 48-50MP Nikon quite soon, I cannot imagine that Nikon will accept beeing only number 2 in the mpix race.

              I am quite curious how the Signal to noise Ratio will be. As the Pixels getting smaller, the quantitiy of photons collected by the pixxel also will decrease. Sooner or later we will reach the physical limit

      • Thom Hogan

        See http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/megapixels-versus-displays.html.

        Technically, if we’re going to put an image on a 4K display that’s not interpolated, we need more than 36mp in the capture, or we need non-Bayer systems.

  • Tadao_Isogai

    “More Nikkor telephoto lenses to be updated with fluorite (FL) element.”

    The 300 f/2.8 is next.

    • Thom Hogan

      Yes.

  • O B

    Any news on the replacement for the 16mm/2.8?

    • David

      The fisheye? That’s probably not high on Nikon’s list.

      • KnightPhoto

        Circular to Full-frame Fisheye Zoom like Canon would be cool

        • O B

          Rumors about the fisheye have been popping up every now and then here at NR for the last couple of years. The current one was released back in 1993.

          • yes, I just have not heard anything lately – it seems that everything shut down at Nikon

  • Ryan

    Actually, really looking forward to seeing what the D5 has to offer.

  • adude

    FF in lightweight body please, mirrorless or not. 4k would be great too; Nikon does not have video camcorder department to compete to itself, so why not?

    • ZoetMB

      Nikon needs more than 4K. They need lenses that work for video, especially zooms that keep their focus from one end of the zoom to the other. You wouldn’t use zooms in narrative filmmaking, but you would in documentary and event video.

      And maybe it’s a user problem, but I find it almost impossible to keep my Nikon videos in focus when using the 70-200mm, although I’m usually shooting in such bad light, I can’t stop down much. And it needs accessories like monitors, recorders and bracket frames, although Nikon would probably overprice all of these. Nikon used to pride itself on selling complete systems.

      As for lightweight, if Nikon used lightweight materials like modern plastics or thin aluminum instead of heavy metal bodies in a high-end camera, everyone here would freak out and call it junk. The old fogies here think that every camera body has to be as heavy as the old F4 or it’s not a “pro” camera.

      • whisky

        i don’t care what they’re made of … as long as they’re durable, weather resistant, inexpensive to repair, and can handle light drops and temperature extremes. monocoque or not.

        it’s when the camera makers start building them as “tossers”— or in a way and manner that it’s lifespan is shorter than it’s usefulness to the original owner — is where it becomes problematic.

        • David Weinehall

          You cannot have all those other requirements and combine them with “inexpensive to repair”. Durable materials are expensive.

          • whisky

            i agree. i’m using “inexpensive” as a relative metric in relation to the cost of replacing the camera. if it’s a lightweight design with limited durability then the repair cost may approach the replacement cost.

      • Aldo

        A lens that turns your dslr into a true video camera… BRILLIANT! I’ve been asking for something like this since video dslr came out… I’m sure there are many setbacks as to why this can’t be done… otherwise they are plane stupid.

  • D400, please.Us bird photographers wait for this for a while now.

    • psv

      Have you tried -d7200, it is a great camera

      • Aldo

        NO IT’S NOT NUCLEAR BOMB PROOF!!! I wan’t my camera to survive when North Korea attacks.

        • You probably think you are funny.

          • Aldo

            I guess I hit the nail in the head…

      • No, I want 10 fps,AF-ON button, bigger grip and more solid body like d800 series.

        • Aldo

          That’s very little excuse (in current times) for a new model over the d7200… I’m a nikon fan. I hope you do get your camera though.

          • I got your point, but at the same time we get cameras like Df and D810A, so its hard to guess what Nikon are thinking these days.

            • I think Nikon realized that they cannot continue with incremental/small updates and are probably working on the next gen of cameras. This explains why it is so slow in September when they usually have a major announcement.

            • JJ168

              I really hope this is the case. I dont need it, but it will be good to see nikon fulfill other market demand, the mythical d400 (8-10fps, d810 like body, latest AF with d7200 like sensor and other goodies)
              I really like the idea of wifi or any useful connectivity. I always wish i can share my pictures from my d810 on the spot rather than waiting a day or so later after edit. Sometimes i just want to share the moment with a great pictures rather than mobile phone quality.

            • Eric Calabros

              I bet even their own survey shows many people still want a pro DX. But they can’t reveal all the new tech before D5.

            • I sure hope so, after d7200, d810a and d5500.

        • psv

          :), me to, till then i use d7200 and a d700

        • Brian

          Get a D810 then. By the way you realize you can change the AE button to AF-ON on a D7200 right?

          • JJ168

            But he can’t change the fps to 10 with d7200/d810 :p

            • Brian

              You ain’t going to get that with a D400 either…and I don’t you’ll even get the D400. Why would they wait this long to put it out? Most of the D300 folks have moved onto FF or 7000 series.

          • Brian do you read what I write at all?I said I want 10 fps.Yes, I know about the option to change the AE button to function as AF-ON, but the position on one in a body like d300 or d800 is more away from the eye, then on my d7000 or on d7200.Please stop making sudgestions about what birders should get, because you obviosly are not a birder and you dont know what is needed to serious bird photography.And no, I dont want neither V3, nor d4s.Thank you.

            • Brian

              Don’t know what’s needed for serious bird photography? You obviously haven’t seen my site take a look…kushnerphoto.com I currently shoot the D4S with the 800 F/5.6 for most of my shots. All I said is Nikon isn’t going to give you 10 fps yet in a DX.

            • I use d7000 and 300 2.8 VR.I hope the pro DX is not dead yet.Cool photos, you can check out mine at https://500px.com/DilomSki

            • Brian, you do very well with your D800 & D4. I moved to a D800 after shooting with a D300. You already have a D4 for the situations where low light and FPS is needed. I’d rather have a DX 10fps to match up with my 500mm but the D400 is a pipe dream. So I like you, I will continue to shoot BIF with my D800. Maybe Mid to late 2016 Nikon may offer me something I can’t resist to buy.

            • Brian

              Yeah I can’t see going back to DX but who knows.

    • Spy Black

      Get a V3.

  • marc kerger

    I hope some company brings out a camera with the MIT modulo “HDR” chip/system/technology

  • outkasted

    I CALLED IT!!!! DID I not say that because of the D3/D300 was NIKON’s best ever launch in its history that as long as they hit the high mark for a revolutionary camera (High ISO, Fast focusing, 4K (maybe),Cross type autofocus points….etc.. they would be able to repeat that exiting time like before.

  • brian valente

    haha – yes, I’m familiar with EFC. I have a D810 and an A7R II, and i use them quite often. I am a big fan of EFC for all my landscape and tripod work. For *handheld* I maintain EFC is irrelevant, but if you have some awesome examples of how it EFC improves *handheld* shots I’m all ears (and eyes).

    • Ephemeris

      You have a D810 and an A7R II but still believe that EFC is irrelevant for handheld shots. It’s about time you get an A7R and shoot handheld with this. You know nothing.

      • brian valente

        haha – maybe I should! but I like EFC and MUP for tripod, where it does make a difference. Like I said, i’d love to be proven wrong, and would love to learn any handheld technique that is so good that the shutter curtain creates more movement in the camera than your hands.

        • Ephemeris

          You can prove yourself wrong. Arguing from a position of ignorance is no argument.

          • brian valente

            I am not the one making these claims. I have already proven it untrue for myself. i have the gear and I have done the work – that’s not ignorance that’s fact. You say you know better, prove it.

            • Ephemeris

              You have not proven anything here other than to make a claim. You prove it.

            • Patrick O’Connor

              Nobody has to prove anything. Each individual can truthfully and accurately say, “In my opinion…”

            • Ephemeris

              Exactly.

    • MdB

      Understanding your point, however the issue wth shutter shock isn’t to do with the total amount of movement but the type of movement. Handheld shake can be compensated for by 1) appropriate shutter speed, 2) IS / VR / OSS, 3) IBIS or 4) tripod. The movement of handheld shake is relatively slow and has a relatively long sweep, it is easy ‘relatively’ to correct for. Shutter shock has a strong and rapid movement that cannot be corrected with the above options, other than using a different shutter speed. Shutter shock exists whether handheld or on a tripod, therefore if hand movement can be compensated for with those other systems, the shutter shock is still being compensated for by EFCS. So EFCS can be beneficial whether handheld or tripod mounted for shutter shock.

      • brian valente

        yep – no problem with that notion. But in practice the amount of movement in handheld will overpower any sort of minute shutter shock. If someone has some images to prove otherwise, I would love to see a blind test on that.

  • Carleton Foxx

    Where the hell is my timecode that was rumored to be released this summer? All I want is timecode in my Nikon. And of course, no-hunt autofocus when shooting video.

  • Jonathan P Soffa

    The next year should be exciting for Nikon. New D5 is expected, higher MP D850? expected. Mostly likely a new 70-200 since the VR II is reaching it’s 6 year cycle, and hopefully a DX sports camera. Maybe a D5/D400 release like the D3/D300 was. That was a pretty big hit.

  • Melkor

    Can we expect a new 70-200mm f2.8 fluorite version in next months (could be many months) ? 🙂

    • I am not sure if this lens will get the FL treatment.

  • Captain Megaton

    Oh? Throwing the previous V4 rumor under the bus already?

    Ok, spill it: was it the specs that were off or the release date, or both?

    • I have my doubts about the source I got this rumor from, so everything could be wrong/fake. I should have checked more extensively before posting it online. I screwed up. This doesn’t mean that a new V4 is not coming – maybe even with similar specs.

      • nwcs

        Understandable. I think a lot of us who have followed Nikon for a while, and the industry as a whole, could come up with a realistic sounding speculation for what’s coming and when. Could fool a lot of us.

      • Captain Megaton

        Cool. Seemed a bid odd to me at the time. While the individual specs seemed reasonable, that someone with knowledge of the camera would choose that particular set of uninteresting and generic points to leak didn’t make sense.

  • Sean

    Any timeframe on the Coolpix cameras with a large/larger sensor (more than one model possible)?

  • mark_texas

    Don’t tease us about the D400… It’s never coming 🙁

    • Ephemeris

      Nikon wants to sell more expensive fullframe bodies and even more expensive longer lenses.

    • nwcs

      Probably but since Canon released their equivalent it will likely pressure Nikon to release a D400 type camera. After all, they are very concerned with how they measure against Canon vs what consumers want.

  • Nikita

    Yes, these never dying “D400” rumors are tiring. Nikon, have some integrity: just be straight with your customers. Ether you intend to offer a D400 or there is absolutely no chance. You are just being cruel as it is.

    • captaindash

      No kidding. Either be open about what you are doing, or keep your mouth shut completely. Then again, show me one person on this forum (besides Andrew) who thinks Nikon is doing a good job addressing the wants/needs of its customers. Personally I’m hoping Pentax knocks it out of the park with it’s FF so I can finally jump ship.

      • Patrick O’Connor

        I don’t think many companies could address the wants/needs of their customers and remain profitable. Just looking at NR posts, Nikon would have to release 2-3x their current products with much greater development and manufacturing costs and sell them for at least 25% less.

      • HF

        So you want to invest into a new DSLR system, a technology on the brink? With not many lenses in the beginning it is a big effort of Pentax to provide those in a shrinking market against competitors dominating the market.

    • Captain Megaton

      I’ve always said that Nikon probably has an upgraded D7xxx body, call it the D9300, on “standby” in case the Canon 7Dii proved to be too big to ignore.

      I still have my doubts it will see the light of day though.

  • Narretz

    > New Nikon 1 lenses – all but one of the 1 Nikkor prototype lenses shown back in 2011 were already announced. Several new Nikon 1 lens patents were filed recently

    Haha, I’ve seen this about 3 times before, yet no new lenses have been announced. Maybe 2016 is the year Nikon finally takes the 1 system seriously?

    • Curtis

      No one will ever take the 1 system seriously.

  • liuels

    It seems that Nikon don’t have any new product before new year, and they have give up the holiday season…I doubt so

  • Thom Hogan

    The problem I have with this “expected lineup changes” is not what is coming, but what isn’t coming. The D5 is a given, and we can expect it to introduce new technologies to the DSLRs. The FL lenses are a given as Nikon always does a full cycle of updates on the exotics when they introduce a new technology there.

    From there, the future is very undefined and somewhat scary to Nikon faithful at the moment. A D400 is not only far overdue, but by the time it might come simply might not be particularly exciting. A V4 and new Nikkor 1 lenses doesn’t excite anyone because Nikon has gotten the 1 series wrong with three V iterations, five J iterations, and the odd scattering of lenses that are all over the board (other than mainstream).

    Mirrorless (DX or FX) would have to exist with mirrored, and we all know how Nikon manages multiple lines: don’t let them compete in any way. Cripple one to promote the other.

    There’s clearly a change happening at Nikon HQ. I noted that months ago, and I’ve gotten multiple data points since that seem to verify that Nikon is doing an internal rethink. But what that means in terms of what products we get down the line is very much not known at the moment. Even some Nikon subsidiary personnel that should know what’s happening claim to be in the dark.

    Frankly, I don’t see a J5, V4, D3x00, D5x00, D7x00, D6x0, D7x0, D8x0, D5 lineup managing to produce sales equal to or higher than current volume. I don’t see multiple CX or DX lenses that make those lines more competitive.

    So I’m curious as to what Nikon thinks they have up their sleeve. Frankly, I don’t think anything’s changed since the last time I talked to their execs: communicating, programmable, modular, and complete ecosystem is what they should have been executing and should still execute. But I see no indication they are.

    • Benno Hessler

      I admit that I have no real evidence for what’s coming up next, but there is a strong hint. Tad Nakayama, who was one of the “main brains” behind the D3/D300 duo, was adviced to go back to Japan after working for several years as CEO of Nikon Germany. This happened one and a half years ago.

      I strongly believe that he will do a great job again and that we will see a D5/D400 (or whatever the name of the latter will be) duo in 2016.

      • Thom Hogan

        The normal progression from subsidiary CEO is not back into engineering, but into upper corporate management.

        • Benno Hessler

          100% agreed. But this was not a normal progression and he is not in the upper management now. That’s all I know.

      • I would be very excited about a D400. I skipped upgrading my D800 t0 an 810 and a D5 is not a priority. I’d certainly jump to buy a D850. I like the size and controls of the D800 body and don’t want a D750. I’ve already invested in glass so I’ll be on the sideline waiting for something big in 2016.

    • Why can’t Nikon put the D4 Sensor in the D800 body after the D5 is released and call it a D810X

      • Thom Hogan

        They could but they didn’t, so they probably won’t.

        The problem for Nikon now is that a 24mp D400 or a 16mp D810h (not x) as you describe would be coming really far later than the user base expected and wanted them. All this would do is add to the perception that Nikon doesn’t know what they’re doing, and is way to late in responding to user demand while others like Sony are forging ahead with new systems.

        • Deep_Lurker

          Not too late; better late than never.

          If Nikon releases these cameras late, they’ll be given another chance to be not-late in the future. If Nikon decides not to release them at all, then they’ll continue to leak and suffer from Last Camera Syndrome until they go under.

          • All true. However, I’m now expecting less from Nikon – no D900/400 and perhaps no D8?0 either. It’s not worth it to upgrade my D800 to an D810 so I’ll just wait to see what’s released in 2016. I mainly shoot Landscapes and Birds in Flight.

          • Thom Hogan

            Maybe. But let’s take 24mp DX 10 fps as the D400 spec. The problem with doing that in 2016 (it’s not happening in 2015 that I can see), is that had they done that on time or even in 2014, the customer expected spec in 2016 would be far higher.

            Having just shot with a a D7200 in tough conditions that would normally warrant a D400, the problem is that the D400 bar is now substantively higher than before. There would need to be something NOT expected that substantially sets a D400 off from both the D7200 and the Canon 7D Mark II. The only thing that’s remotely on the horizon would be 4K video, and I doubt that’s enough.

            Nikon really needs a reset, just as they needed and got with the D1.

            • Deep_Lurker

              For a 2012 (on time) D400 release, people would have accepted 16MP and 8 FPS. For a 2014 release, people would want 24MP but would still accept 8 FPS. A 24MP with 9-10 FPS is in line with an early 2016 release, provided that the sensor is the latest 24MP DX, with the latest and greatest autofocus system to match. (And personally, I’d value a really good viewfinder over 4K video or built-in wi-fi or other “kewl” tech of that sort.)

              What I want, and what I believe most people want in a D400 is a “DX D810h” Or, I’ll give you, a “DX D820h” for a 2016 release. As I’ve kept saying: The D400 needs to be a ‘zen’ camera that gets everything right, rather than a ‘wow’ camera that breaks ground with kewl new features & specs.

            • Sports

              Both @thomhogan:disqus and @Deep_Lurker:disqus have good points on the expectations and requirements.
              In ’12, 16 MP/8 fps would have been perfect.
              In ’14, 24 MP/8 fps would’ve been fine.
              But in ’16 it’ll depend on the price, I’d say.
              For $1500, the specs from ’14 would still be ok.
              For 2K, I would expect the new “D5” viewfinder/AF and a BSI sensor and 10 fps.
              Also, well, some Nikon customers want 4K video, but I’m sure it’s not the D400 crowd. We just want a slightly faster D300S with up-to-date components, for God’s sake. It’s really that simple.

            • Thom Hogan

              There’s speculation about a simultaneous D5/D500 type of introduction (and maybe V5, too), ala the D3/D300. Which is dead on to this discussion.

              The D3/D300 did a major reset of ALL expectations in the Nikon DSLR lineup. The question is whether Nikon can do that again. You point out the D5 viewfinder/AF system as a potential for the D300s followup, but I’m not sure that’s enough by itself to say “reset.”

              That’s the tricky thing about tech: the bar keeps moving. You can try to catch up to the bar, you can fall behind the bar, or you sometimes can jump ahead and reset the bar. Sony’s been doing a bit of that last one lately. Nikon’s been at or behind the bar.

              A slightly faster D300s with 24mp is behind the bar now. There simply has to be more to it or it will have trouble in the market.

            • Ephemeris

              Thom, I am curious what specs think the new D300-replacement should have to be well accepted and competitive in 2016.

              How about these? 24mp with improved DR and SNR, 11fps, bigger buffer, faster AF and wider AF spread, improved viewfinder, integrated handgrip. These specs essentially spells out a DX D5 thus. I think most would be users will accept a non-4K video though having one will certainly not hurt.

            • Thom Hogan

              Such a guessing game requires another data assumption. Am I to assume that we want to (a) just pick up remaining D300s upgrade demand; (b) produce something that sells in D300s-like numbers; or (c) re-ignites DX as a growth format?

              24mp and just about anything I’ve seen guessed at is mostly about (a). You’d have to really push the specs to get to (b). (c) requires you do something akin to what I suggested years ago (communicating, programmable, modular), PLUS it requires a dedication to producing a full DX lens set.

              The question isn’t whether Nikon can sell some D400’s. They can. The responses on this site ought to indicate that there’s some continuing demand. But Canon’s experience with the 7DII ought to be a warning. It sold to those waiting for it, it’s not selling in great quantities, and it’s not increasing APS demand in the Canon line.

              Thing is, it’s easy to sell “comfort” upgrades to existing users. Even Apple does it. The question is whether or not you have something that retriggers the excitement and growth.

              Ironically, Nikon is one of the few companies that COULD say “we’ll sell you state of the art in any size, at any price point.” But they’re not. They have irrationalized product lines at the moment and they not only can’t clearly market the differences between lines, but they’ve cut their advertising budget to do so. They then can’t actually ship the products people want, and overproduce the ones that are less wanted, forcing them to undercut themselves with lots of gray market inventory.

              I don’t see the clear guiding hand that forms and structures their products at the moment. Couple that with lots of bad customer experiences (my 300mm f/4 still has to go back to Nikon for the fix, but they refuse to pay for that) and they’re just creating huge frictions towards their business.

            • Deep_Lurker

              What is the D300s upgrade demand? It’s not just D300s owners. It’s also all the owners of D7200 and below who want a D810 “best all-around DSLR” only without an FX sensor and it’s price premium. And it might also include the D800/D810/D4 shooters who want a DX as a second body with the same controls as their FX body.

              Nikon has to deal with the $2000 camera body market being split. They’re not able to move everyone to FX, and they’re not going to get everyone to buy a new DX body, no matter how all-singing & all-dancing it is. But by trying to move everyone to FX, and not offering even a “comfort” version of the D400, they’re leaving money on the table. And they can’t afford to leave money on the table.

              So let me put it this way: What specs do you think a D400 would need to have, in order to sell as well as the D600/D610? (Or, as well as the D600 would have sold, if Nikon hadn’t botched the oily-sensor issue?)

            • Thom Hogan

              The problem with that is still the same.

              Two years ago, X% of the D300/D300s owners would have bought a D400. Today that number is now X-Y%, as some people have moved on. The same is true for D7200 and below owners.

              Moreover, the trick for Nikon is that they have the best all around DSLR: it’s the D810. If they create one that takes that crown at the less than US$2000 price point, they hurt themselves by not selling D810’s. Yes, there’s price elasticity of demand involved, and it might work out decently in Nikon’s favor, but having just ran a huge “buy FX” push, they run the risk of too much gyration of their customer base: no one’s going to believe them if they suddenly switch to “buy DX.” This is why I insisted that Nikon needed to make DX complete from the get go. Then demonstrate who needs and why they need it for FX.

              As for selling as well as the D610, unfortunately, it doesn’t sell all that well. And you can’t compare what would have sold several years ago against today, the environment is different, and some of that is Nikon’s doing.

              I’ve said all along that Nikon should create a D400 (and ASAP). That it will sell. However, the longer we wait, the less well it will sell given the expected specs. We’re far too close to a big sensor breakthrough that a current 24mp 8 fps camera is going to need updating quick to stay relevant.

              Okay, everyone is now asking, “what sensor breakthrough?” My guess is that the next big thing is no saturation ceiling (fixed well depth).

            • Eric Calabros

              no ceiling, with dual gain? Imagine a ISO 12800 shot that highlights are just at base ISO, and rest is amplified.

            • Thom Hogan

              The tricky part of a “no ceiling” sensor is going to be the same as with JPEG: how are you doing the linearization of the data? There’s going to be a kickover point in the data much like we had with the S5 Pro.

    • whisky

      “A V4 and new Nikkor 1 lenses doesn’t excite anyone …”

      well, they excite me. at least i’m anticipating excitement as Nikon seems to have addressed some of the shortcomings of the J series with the J5. i’d be happy to have another rugged mini-sized mirrorless in my bag next to my Dx/Fx gear. the idea was/still is good and it’s just the execution which has prevented me from investing more into that eco-system.

      sure, you have every right to be skeptical, but without hope it’s too easy to become cynical. i prefer to remain optimistic for the time being and hope it might rub off on you too. 🙂

    • Luis F. Vidal

      Based in what we’ve saw in Nikon DX releases for the past 3 years (and even in the FX line up) I expect a D400 (or whatever) with an underwhelming 8fps and a 3 sec buffer. I would be really surprised if they reach the 10fps mark…

  • verytoxic

    Rumor has it that D400 has been recalled before it got announced. Expect a D410 in the pipeline shortly.

    • Thom Hogan

      D410 has a service advisory on it. Wait for the D450.

  • Sean

    Any timeframe on the Coolpix cameras with a large/larger sensor (more than one model possible)?

  • tor2

    The coolpix with large sensor is just a hoax. An everlasting rumor never to come true.

    • JJ168

      Where have you been when coolpixA was announced? It has been discontinued too 🙂

  • Günter Hofstädter

    i´m a hardcore nikonian,( no i was! ) but i´mt not blind to see what an Sony A7R2 can do! Nikon where are you? First i get overhelmed by the Pentax 645Z Midformat camera, and now i see what the A7R2 is able to do ! My D810 is in the box since about 3 month and i´m afraid i won´t get it out as soon again! ( yes probably to sell it )

    • consumer10101

      Unless you care for a fast auto-focus and lens selection, Sony makes a compelling argument.

      • Günter Hofstädter

        on the D810 the lenses are less than you think !
        most of the older lenses doesn´t perform! So only a couple of the newer lenser are on the sensors level!
        So i also own a couple of Zeiss glasses the whole Sigma Art Line and a unique glas from Voigtländer on the side of a couple of expensive Nikon glasses!

        • consumer10101

          That is probably true, although arguable. However, there is no denying that at this point Nikon has a significantly better coverage in the lens department overall than Sony.

          And for a lot of folks $3200 camera with a slow auto-focus is a deal killer.

          • Günter Hofstädter

            your right, because its technology is quiet old, so if they bring something similar than sony then the have a need to develope a new lens line because the old ones won´t fit or if the fit, the won´t perform!

  • Ineedmy Bobo

    Sad Nikonian here, not getting excited about any new products. I still shoot with my D800, but as far as DX and mirrorless goes, the Fuji X system is everything that I wanted Nikon to release–small, light, feels wonderful in the hand, and high-quality lenses.

    Almost jumping FX ship for a Sony a7RII, but the lenses aren’t inspiring me yet. Nikon — I hope you have something up your sleeve that interests me! How about an AW2 camera (that doesn’t leak) and has a wide-angle zoom lens?

  • nwcs

    I just wish Nikon management would watch this video. That’s it, just this video. It’s Inside-Out thinking. Worth watching for anyone who works or manages in a business.

    https://youtu.be/xn2QXfax6kA

    • KnightPhoto

      Very good video – thanks

  • Admin – The title of your article is “What to expect from Nikon” but it does not include a timeframe for the next 3, 6 or 12 months. Why do I recommend this consideration for future articles? Your Buying Guide proposes that several bodies (D810, 750 and Df) are listed as expecting an upgrade in 2016 but they are no mentioned in your current article. The biggest exception is the mention of a D5 in early 2016. IMHO

    • Because I do not have any exact dates. I don’t think we see much in 2015.

  • Anthony Papagallo

    still no replacement for D3x users. My current body has half a million actuations on it. I have bought a second body as back-up. I give up on them ever replacing it.
    Are studio based pro togs that dont want student project kiddie video in a fisher price body so rare that we dont warrant consideration?
    I tried that p.o.s D800, thats an upmarket D200 with goddam video on it and it feels like a fucking toy, it wont last 200k actuations never mind half a million.
    I want a 50mp Pro Body no shitty video Camera please Nikon, Im sure there are other Toggers who pay their mortgage and put their kids thru college on the backs of their Nikons who want the same.

  • Tov_Daniele

    “D400, rumored since 1887″…

  • I don’t know if it has been asked, but will the D5 still have the XQD or will they get rid of it for good?

  • true

    “What to expect from nikon .. ” Nothing, that’s why I have second body m43 with ibis

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