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More Nikon mirrorless movie specs

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Some more detailed movie specs for the upcoming Nikon mirrorless camera:

Metering

  • TTL metering using image sensor

Metering method:

  • Matrix
  • Center-weighted: meters 4.5 mm circle in center of frame
  • Spot: meters 2mm circle centered on selected focus area

Frame size (pixels/rate):

  • HD movies: 1920 x 1080/60i, 1920 x 1080/30p, 1280 x 720/60p
  • Slow motion movies: 640 x 240/400fps, 320 x 120/1200fps
  • Still image movies: 1072 x 720/60p
  • Snapshot mode: 1920x1080/60p


Movie format:

  • MOV

Compression:

  • H.264/MPEG-4
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  • Ole

    Snapshot mode means: Without sound..?!

    • Ole

      … but usable as HD-Video…?

      • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

        “Oops, accidentally got 187 shots there.”

    • mikycoud

      Maybe videos with a very limited duration, like a few seconds max…

  • henry

    Holy smokes. At 1200fps, I can stop bullets?

    • Mourie

      yes but what will u do with
      320 x 120

      ?

      • mikycoud

        yes but what will u do with 320 x 120?

        ….stop some small bullets….

        • Shkacas

          LOL !!! :DD

        • rhlpetrus

          Well, 320×120 is a pretty good bullet ;) .

    • Sky

      Smells like ancient Casio camera.

      You know… they had it like 3 years ago: http://gizmodo.com/341634/casios-exilim-pro-ex+f1-hands+on-1200-fps-demo-video-and-sample-60+shots+per+second-gallery

      Oh nikon, nikon…. you fail so much with this camera… what next, you’ll show us that your mirrorless can work as watch?

      • RichST

        Hey I liked the old EX-F1. Believe it or not there is a demand for very high framerate videos, especially among sports players. To me it is much more significant that it hints that the camera has a very fast sensor, which means (in theory) there is the possibility that its best video modes can be accomplished by full sensor scans instead of using the degrading subsampling tricks all other DSLRs use to generate their video.

    • Apooo

      Yeah… I’m a little disappointed with that. It was a pleasant surprise but under executed. It would have been a nice creative feature if the frame size was larger. I would much rather Nikon not have the slow motion mode in than to give us a mediocre feature.

    • Tonio

      1000 fps (I have a Casio specifically for this feature) is useful for measurement in lab settings, physics experiments, etc. I used mine to determine the accuracy of a lab program’s behavior (it claims millisecond accuracy). But in practice the 400 fps will be more useful for artistic purposes.

  • http://rado.bg rado

    640 x 240 is 2.67:1?

    • Frankey

      Its 16:6 instead 16:9 … Nikon fails … :-(

      • Hash Me

        It’s 24:9. Nikon wins in that it gives a more “cinematic” aspect ratio. Most of the anamorphic widescreen movies are shot at 2.35:1 (21:9) aspect, so you still have some leeway into cropping borders.

        This is awesome!

        • Sky

          Now find me a TV to watch that. Or a computer screen.

          They cropped it cause it makes less data to transfer and it’s easier to achieve high speed, not because it’ll make your movie more “cinematic”. Don’t use word “cinematic” close to camera with such specs. ;]

          • mikycoud
          • Hash Me

            That’s very close to the pixel count of an anamorphic widescreen movie viewed on a DVD player.

            • jacob

              A great product for year 2002.

            • Andrew

              Correction…

              A great product for 2020

          • http://modifiedphoto.wordpress.com Jason

            Actually, I hate to say it but your brand new 16×9 flat screen is going to be obsolete in a few years. They are already looking at making an even wider format, higher resolution television standard. Granted, it won’t entirely replace 16×9 televisions or content, but it is coming. Rather than have letterbox on the top and bottom of anamorphic movies, it will “fill” the screen and any standard 16×9 content will have a letterbox on the sides.

            For what it’s worth, people already pay tens of thousands of dollars for high-end projection systems in home theaters that have automatic anamorphic transforming screens and motorized lenses that activate to fill the extra wide area depending on the content.

            As for the camera, who cares… Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

          • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

            @Sky:

            You and my mom should talk—she also complains when the movie doesn’t fill up her boxy 4:3 aspect ratio TV screen she bought from walmart on clearance.

            She’s sixty.

            I’m glad you aren’t making the decisions that establish the field of cinema. Seriously, when are you going to stop talking about stuff you know nothing about?

  • em

    I’m hoping there will be a 1280 x 720/50p setting for PAL users.

    • BetaHal

      +1, em. Given the crippled photographic capabilities of this mirrorless toy, being unable to use it for video in Europe and other PAL countries would result in Nikon loosing those markets in favor of cheaper, more capable cameras from other brands.

      • RichST

        There very well may be. These leaked specs could be coming from a camera in Japan, which of course uses NTSC. Many video and camera companies only release 25/50p cameras in PAL countries and 30/60p in NTSC countries and don’t have the option of switching in the menu

  • Manolito

    LOL! After all this time and for a completely new system… and they still can’t get it right with video!

  • http://www.MartinWongPhotography.com Martin

    1200fps only at 320 x 120

    but you can make a VERY AWESOME gif

    after all it is not an ultra pro video camera, so that is actually pretty bad ass

    • Sky

      Awesome GIF that weights few MB? No thank you.

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      after all it is not an ultra pro video camera, so that is actually pretty bad ass

      It’s NOT bad ass…

      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=casio+F1&aq=f

      It’s amazing how unread people can be in this day and age when the information is just a few keystrokes away.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/sooperkuh/ außerirdischegesund

    Any rumours about the kits already, e.g. will there be a kit with the 10mm pancake for both bodies, or only with the more expensive one?

  • RichST

    OK now I’m a little more interested again. So the sensor apparently is designed for some speed after all. Sony is the only mass manufacturer of these superfast sensors I know of and they’re all CMOS, which makes me doubt that CCD claim even more now but who knows. With such a broad emphasis on video modes I’m rather surprised they didn’t put a 1080/24p in. Can’t wait to see some samples. My guess (or maybe hope) about snapshot mode is that it is a very high quality video mode (fingers crossed full sensor scan) that can’t be written to a memory card fast enough. The data may have to be thrown into a buffer and then written to the card afterwards much like burst modes do, which may limit the mode to something like a short clip mode.

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      OK now I’m a little more interested again. So the sensor apparently is designed for some speed after all.

      So the highspeed aspect of this camera intrigues you more than the other things huh? Then why did you wait 3 years when you could’ve gotten the Casio F1:

      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=casio+F1&aq=f
      http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010601casiof1.asp

      So is it just brand-loyalty? ;P

      • http://www.lakbayan.net stoikee

        So is this Casio F1 2.7 crop and interchangeable lens?

        • Anonymous

          Great question… goes to show the lack of understanding by this commenter.

          It is NOT brand loyalty… the Nikon product appears to be a better product that Casio, at least based on the specs.

          • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

            Actually both of you have reading & comprehension difficulties because I clearly pointed at and asked why “RichST” _was not_ interested before when the camera was announced as being interchangeable lens but only now when the camera is announced as having high speed video. Doesn’t this suggest that the camera was _not_ interesting to RichST without the high speed video? It’s written all over!

            • RichST

              Well if it helps clarify things what I’m looking for from this thing is a kind of stills-video hybrid camera; specifically, one that can do video well enough that you could pull a frame grab off of it and not have it look much different than a still picture that had been downscaled to 1080. To pull this off you’ll need a very fast sensor that generates video by running a full sensor scan instead of running compromised subsampling or binning routines. Even if the first generation version can only do this for a few seconds I’ll buy one in a heartbeat

            • http://www.robertash.com Robert Ash

              Hi RichST,

              Unfortunately that’s probably not going to happen with this Nikon. MPEG as I remember it from years ago works on a Reference Frame + Delta Frame model. The video starts with a complete frame called a reference frame. After that it captures only the changes from the reference frame. Each of those change-capture frames is called a Delta Frame. I think every 10th or 12th frame is a complete Reference frame and the ones following it are deltas from that frame.

              If you want 100% complete frames for each frame then you need to buy a Red. But that requires a very high bandwidth card and lots and lots of storage space.

            • RichST

              Rob, sure there are 3 types of frames (at least) in h264 compression but there is nothing preventing you from opening the video in a program and pulling a grab from any frame. A program such as Quicktime will calculate what each frame is supposed to look like, the quality can be very good depending on how much bitrate is used and how sophisticated the encoder is. Of course there’s always mjpeg which would produce very large files and may be what they have in mind for snapshot mode. Red is basically using RAW video which I agree is way beyond the target of this camera

            • http://www.robertash.com Robert Ash

              Rich,
              Cool, makes sense, thanks.

      • Rob

        Why do you keep mentioning the Casio? Brand loyalty? Or are camera manufacturers not allowed to have similar spec’d cameras in your world? No one is claiming the Nikon video is revolutionary, they’re just specs.
        Should I not buy a Ford with an V8 engine because General Motors had one first? Get over yourself.

      • RichST

        Actually I DID have an EX-F1 for nearly a year. Great camera for its time in that it could do a full sensor scan 60 times a second but the processor technology was not there to utilize that for its video mode (which sucked by the way at normal HD). I ended up selling the thing for more than I paid for it since it has become kind of a collector’s item. Today JVC does have a camera that is fast enough to do full sensor scans for its 1080 video and the results are impressive, and that’s just using a tiny 1/2.33″ sensor.

        • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

          Well then your interest is genuine and justified. Still find it a bit odd since you didn’t mention your F1 when it has the exact same highspeed video feature that interests you so much about this camera.

          And we’re yet to see how much better, if at all, this new Nikon is.

          • RichST

            Well it’s not so much the high-speed video as it is that it can generate “normal” video by sampling the entire sensor (see my post above). The Casio could only do this as a series of stills and even then only for 60 frames (at rates up to 60fps). The quality was good but could have been better; they applied too much smearing to reduce noise and dynamic range wasn’t that great due to the small sensor size. I’m hoping a larger 1″ sensor and the fact that it’s Nikon doing it could take this concept to the next level

  • LGO

    If this hints at what Nikon can do with its dSLR once it flips up its mirror, then we have much to look forward to when the new dSLRs are released – assuming that Nikon will likely spread out among its product lines the fruits of its R&D. But if the rumors on the lenses that Nikon will release proves true, I will have zero interest in this Nikon mirrorless (as explained in previous postings).

    • Sky

      Removing mirror? C’mon, fanboys would kill company for that. Who else cried so much when first EVF cameras were released?

      • LGO

        Huh? You didn’t know that dSLRs generally flip its mirror when on Live View or just before shutter release when taking a photo?

        • Alfonso

          +1

        • Sky

          Oooh… ok, I get it now. hehehe,

          well, this makes some sense. Although I’m not sure if Sony sensors Nikon uses are suitable for such output, but… who knows. Nikon already surprised people many times with what they’ve done using others sensor – maybe we’ll see something outstanding soon.

          • http://eleventhphotograph.com elph

            You’re probably right, but he’s also probably right. Its hard to say because the video won’t be “cinematically amazing” at such a small resolution. Too bad the option isn’t given at higher resolutions…

  • no-nikon-no

    dslr’s = cmos
    leica m9 = ccd

    nikon mirrorless might have a ccd sensor only because it will sell for usd$1200.00 (1/5 the sensor size for 1/5 the price) LOL!!!

    • Andre

      I guess you haven’t actually looked to see (or maybe just simply don’t have a clue in the first place) about which cameras use ccd sensors these days.

    • Ke

      Not all DSLR sensor are CMOS.

      • RichST

        All that do video are

  • simpleguy

    now it starting to become interesting , form the video point of view
    if nikon can upgrade those specs to be on a real dslr so that 1920*1080 can do 60p or more 400fps that would be very interesting and would knock canon in their ass , but as for now
    full hd with 60i – interlaced is crap , and 400fps and 1200fps is worth nothing if it is in resoultion of a stamp 640 x 240 or less
    and ofcourse mirrorless or not 2.6 crop sensor kills it all

    a d800 or d4 , FF with 1920*1080 that goes from 24p up to 400fps would be a monster , that will kill all competitors

    • Video Cam?

      Mmm video is all well and good. But these cams are still primarily still cameras… I use video quite a lot, but I hope Nikon keep up their good track record with still cams too.

      • RichST

        Whoever said they were primarily still cameras?

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      a d800 or d4 , FF with 1920*1080 that goes from 24p up to 400fps would be a monster , that will kill all competitors

      Don’t get so ambitious… Nikon’s currently losing the video battle… they still have to at least _match_ Canon at least once before they can beat them senseless. Don’t you think?

    • iamlucky13

      Why? What percentage of people who buy D700/D3 class cameras make their decision based on video capabilities?

      Some do, but I seriously doubt it’s the majority, especially now that we’re starting to see a couple large sensor, interchangeable lens dedicated video cameras become available for comparable prices.

      And of those who do, how many have a compelling need for greater than 60 fps? I’d imagine those who are using SLR’s as inexpensive low-light video rigs for weddings don’t even need greater than 30 fps.

      I’m sure Nikon could put ultra high video framerates in the D800 or D4, but very few people would switch from other brands on that basis.

      Now as far as this mirrorless camera goes, it might be interesting at my workplace to use for engineering purposes. I think the one high speed camera we have (1000 fps) cost over $10,000 and only does B&W.

      ~$1000 to get a capability in between that and the Canon G-series models we use for more mundane documentation might be a good deal for us.

  • steve

    Does it do miracles ? It’ll need to if it wants to compete with just about any other mirrorless cam out there. For US$500 there’s the E-PM1 with a decent range of glass, and at the other end there’s the NEX7 with a Zeiss on it. I just can’t see this selling, unless that sensor/processor can do miracles.

  • http://www.earlstudios.com Jeremy Mayhew

    I do both photos and videos with my nikons, because I am cheap and want to buy one camera to do two things. This is very exciting to me since i’ve been shooting video back from the stone age of the d90. I made the switch to hd dslrs because I wanted the depth of feild that i saw in my food photos in my food videos, but coudn’t afford anything more than a sony vx2100 .

    This excites me, I consider myself slightly creative, and so I don’t worry so much about specs and charts, but more so what creative opportunities new improvements presents to me. I’ve been begging for 60fps for years, and now it seems to be finally here in a emerging nikon camera, and that shows great possibilities for the next hd dslr release from nikon, hopefully a full frame cam. Which I know is a photo camera, and is meant for photos, but there are those of us that use if for both as we try to make a sustainable business in our little necks of the woods.

    SO thank you nikon, consider me excited.

    (i do not spell check or grammer check my blog posts at 7 in the morning, so don’t bother spell checking me.)

  • MJr

    MOV = Hate
    h264 = Love
    AAC = End-user format only, very bad to re-encode.
    1080p/30 = yay !
    1080i/60= argh.

    • Apooo

      +1

    • RichST

      What are your complaints about .MOV? It can utilize h264 for compression just as mts (AVCHD) and mp4 do.

      But 60i, yeah it sucks, fine for just playing back on a TV but for editing it’s a total pain

  • Shit Fan Hitter

    Damn it! Give me 24 fps 1080p and 120 fps 720p.

    • Renato M.

      yeah! that’s what I’d expect too. it’d be nice if others manufactures followed that.

  • Joseph

    Will it have manual exposure for movies????

  • AnoNemo

    Ok, I call for a truce! :-) Let’s not bash Nikon for 2 days, let’s see what they will offer to us. This will tell us what they think where image capturing (still and motion) is going.

  • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

    Metering

    TTL metering using image sensor

    Stating a mirrorless digital camera does TTL metering off the main sensor on the spec sheet is no more important than saying the camera is also battery operated.

  • stillvideos

    I predict that..
    Canon dslrs will become amazing video slrs with decent photographic capabilities.
    And Nikon dslrs will become a amazing still slrs with decent video capabilities.

    • Anonymous

      Amen to that.

  • http://eleventhphotograph elph

    Why does Nikon always include some awkward resolution with each camera? 640×240?!
    That’s not even VGA, if it was proper VGA then it’d be properly enticing. Good Monday morning news though.

    • mikycoud

      well, 640X240 is VGA with vertical rez halfed. One can (if one wishes to get a ‘usable’ video) interpolate the missing lines in post to get a 640X480p.
      Nikon’s solution for claiming impressive (sorta) frame rates I guess…

      • RichST

        It’s a classic Sony trick to get to high framerates, I believe they use some form of column addition to increase the speed of the sensor readout. The very high framerates that originally debuted on the Casio EX-F1 also had weird letterboxed resolutions, so it sounds about right

  • roos

    No VGA@400 after all then?

  • coco

    when pentax come out with Q – they sold their ass to ricoh
    hopefully Canon or Sony will buy Nikon after this mess

  • jacob

    I guess Nikon was true in their statement that the evil camera was not aimed at professionals.
    If you are complaining that you can’t get an Oscar prize this year with a film produced with this camera the problem is with your expectations more than with Nikon’s evil offer.

  • Photonut

    Nice toy!

    Looks like Nikon is not a company that can design small cameras.

    Their DLSRs usually rock, but their Coolerpixes are a long line of failures. Apparently, the mirrorless follows the coolerpixes…

    • Sandy

      BS. Nikon sells a boat load of PS, right behind Canon and Sony. PS sales up 25% this year. This camera is not aimed at self described pros with their noses in the air.

      It will be pocketable, IQ much better than PS, and do great video, and it will be FAST.
      You want a great DSLR? Buy now or wait for October probable announcement.

  • http://mato34.es/ Mato34

    If I remember well, it seems that one strong point of CMOS against CCD was read speed.

    If all of those specifications “hi-speed” are true, isn’t a bit strange coming from a CCD? Admin, could be a CMOS after all?

    • RichST

      I’m thinking it’s CMOS too, but Kodak does make fast CCD sensors (some are even 1″, hmmmm). But to date a few fairly expensive camcorders have used their sensors, such as Ikonoskop, and their target market is not particularly meant for digital cameras

  • http://www.bernardovaghi.com.br Bernardo Vaghi

    Canon will surprise the market again, this year, wait and see (it´s good for Nikon wake up):

    http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/09/more-new-full-frame-rumors-cr1/

    http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/09/a-new-entry-level-full-frame-camera-cr1/

    • jacob

      Ooops! Nikon, wake up!

    • John

      I think Nikon know this. Thats why there allready is a rumor (Weekly Nikon news flash #128) that Nikon will announce the D700 replacement at the end of October, 2011.

    • rhlpetrus

      What, new FF Canon at 12MP? ;-) That would be interesting! More likely 24MP and better DR/noise, since that’s what people are expecting from Nikon as well.

  • SZRimaging

    Am I the only one noticing that it works with the ME-1? That has a hotshoe mount, but your earlier specs say no hotshoe. Now I’m confused. Is there a hotshoe? Is there not? Is there one with an added accessory?

    • LGO

      That it works with the Nikon ME-1 likely means that it has internal power sufficient for the ME-1. It may not necessarily mount that there will be a hotshoe mount for an ME-1. Still, a standard hotshoe and CLS/AWL support will help boost the appeal of this camera.

      • SZRimaging

        Yes, but I would doubt they would claim compatibility with an accessory without a place to mount it. We’ll just have to wait and see. Hopefully this week.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      I was told no flash hot shoe, but maybe there will be some other way of attaching accessories.

  • Drunkcaballo

    I hope it comes with a built in coffee maker. Im so sick of having to own a camera, and a coffee maker. Especially when Im photographing those early morning sunrises.

  • Robin

    Okay, la la lee lee and what not..enough already Nikon you had your fun little announcements and oh’s and ahhh’s over your pet project. Now can we move on to some real camera announcements before Olympics hit us.

  • http://www.dirty-pages.de Flo

    640 x 240 is wrong. It will be 640 x 480.
    And there will be 720p @ 120fps.
    You bet ;)

  • R!

    NIKON IS DEAD LONG LIVE NIKON.

    • Ric

      That’s Nycon.

  • scurvy hesh

    Its a nice overcast morning in Seattle. I like to call it “natures softbox” I’m going out with my Fe and 105 2.5 to take some portraits while you babies whine about your FX cameras. Seriously, get yourself a few rolls of Portra sometime. Film is great because you can spend time doing photography and leave the grunt work to someone else. I have to tell you the less time I spend in Photoshop the happier I am.

  • scurvy hesh

    Oh NVM. The Sun is out in force now. Like they say in Seattle. “If you dont like the weather’ wait 5 minutes”

  • Adam J McKay

    Nikon is really starting to piss me off. I started off shooting only Nikon, because I am also a filmmaker, I wanted a good camera to shoot video with, now I shoot primarily on the 5dmk2 but am waiting for Nikon to step up. So far though…nothing. Now this mirror less garbage? I may buy a mirror less camera, but its probably going to be either the Sony Nex5-n or some other rangefinder type mirror less. PLEASE NIKON. RELEASE SOMETHING GOOD.

    • scurvy hesh

      Seems like there are a lot of Film makers and not a lot of photographers these days… It would be nice to see Nikon make a little video box with an F-mount and keep the video off of my Dslr.

  • Roeder

    If this is the kind of thing they are sticking in a “non-pro” compact camera, imagine what they are setting up for the pro DSLRs.

    Wait it out kids, I’m sure it will be good. Nikon would not just lie down and die.

    • Jake

      +100

  • Phil Wilson

    Sony NEX7 seems to have far higher specs. This camera has been in development for so long other manufactures have passed it by. Hope the same doesn’t happen with the D700 replacement which I am desperate for.

  • dgreene196

    I think the NEX-7 targets a different user than this camera, although that depends on final form factor, price, and features. The 7 and the 24 mm Zeiss look to be a nice combo, but they are going to cost as much or slightly more than a Leica X1!

    Until more about the Nikon mirrorless is confirmed, I’m taking a wait and see approach. For my personal search for a mirrorless, I’ve looked at Sony’s system and rejected it. The system lens choices are too big, and I find the menu system/access to manual controls pretty unintuitive, though your mileage may vary. Samsung looks like they’re creating a very nice system with some very solid/compact lenses, but their telephoto options aren’t really smaller than Nikon DX equipment. That 85 mm f/1.4 at only $1000 is appealing, though…

    I’ve never gotten excited about the m4/3 consortium cameras yet. The minimal size savings haven’t been worth the loss of low-light image quality. But if Panasonic pairs its powered, compact zoom to a decent compact body with manual controls to go along with the compact primes they have…

    Nikon hopefully has done their homework well. The competition is better than it was 2 years ago. The good news is that none of these companies have done a good job marketing their products. The bad news is that Nikon isn’t very good at marketing its products either.

  • Rob

    24P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ERRRRRRR

  • Russ

    60i and 60p movies? Doesn’t that marginalise over half the world that operate onj the PAL TV system that use 50p or 25i?

  • grayscale

    Ummmmm… any chance the still image movie would be in RAW….
    That would be freaking awesome… imagine the range!!!
    I’ve been wanting some type of raw movie files..
    Personally, I do all my colour grading for video in Lightroom as is.
    With RAW, It would be sick!

  • http://www.robertash.com Robert Ash

    It’s great to see MPEG-4 being incorporated for the video if the rumored spec turns out to be true. Just over 10 years ago I organized and chaired the consortium of companies that successfully proposed Quicktime to ANSI as the basis for the MPEG-4 intermedia container format. It took some years to work through ANSI but now every time I see MPEG-4 being used or incorporated it warms my heart :)

  • Jesse Garrido

    The slow motion modes just might change my mind. I have the casio EX-F1 and while it’s cool the quality of the video in slo-mo is not great. I guess I’m a sucker for high speed video.

    • Danyyyel

      I would like to know how this camera is suppose to stack up against the Sony nex-5n for example… a $ 600 body that has better specs in any way you look at it. It has what can be called usable video for 99% of shooters from 24p cinematic to 60p (good slow motion) at full 1080p. Lets not talk about the sensor size resolution and lens choice. I can’t see this thing selling if it cost more than $ 400. It is not just some exotic rapid stamp size frame rate that will cater for very limited shooting that is going to make it a hot seller. I am sure that we will see a lot of super slowmotion at youtube web resolution that will wow, but it will wayn away very fast.

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