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Nikon rep: two DSLRs will be announced by the end of August

This is the email I received from a reader describing a recent Nikon event organized for major authorized dealers in a country I will not mention online in order not to get anyone in trouble:

They essentially explain what happened with Nikon since March 11th (earthquake, tsunami, Fukushima, etc.) and what major decisions have been taken since concerning the product plants situated in the area.

They told us that most of the machines have been moved to a new plant in Malaysia and most of the employees have been moved as well with some monetary compensation. Then, some photo slides of the Malaysian plant have been shown. The new facility is already producing cameras and lenses. Expect to see "Made in Malaysia" Nikon product very soon.

Now, as you can imagine, everybody asked for the D700 and D3 replacement schedule. Here is what the Nikon rep said: "Two new FX bodies will be announced by the end of August. Availability in Fall." Even though the rep wasn't explicit about which current cameras are going to be replaced, it was quite clear they were talking about "old body designs" (guess D700 and D3). Nevertheless, the two FX cameras will be aimed at different customers who have different needs: one camera for "expert" photographers, the other for "pro" photographers. Technical spec and form factors will be significantly different as well.

Could it be that the camera for the "expert" photographers is actually the previously rumored D400? In any case, the major announcement scheduled for the end of August seems to be on track and has not be delayed by the recent tragedy in Japan. All information so far points to the announcement of two new DSLR cameras. The Nikon Coolpix line will also be upgraded, probably somewhere in the middle of August.

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  • Landscape Photo

    Yes, the poster says 2 FX, but pls. D700 & D400 at the same time.

    So that I may choose one among them depending on their features ;) I have lenses both good for FX & DX.

    If the pixel count of D800 is equivalent to D400 and D700 still has 95% vf, then I may jump back to DX. My D700 is better than D300, but D7000 has approached it in terms of image quality. And I hate the 95% vf of D700 ! Horrible for precise composition.

    • Landscape Photo

      But the better move would be

      * 20-24mp D800 (with 100% viewfinder & keeping the D700 form factor), better low-iso DR, same high-iso noise as D700 despite of pixel count

      * 16-18mp D4 (similar to D3 form) ultra-clean high-iso performance (iso 25k like iso 800 of D700) & speed

      * 16-20mp D400 next summer

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdanboeru22/ Bogdan Boeru

        That’s impossible. Please remember the D3s had a 0.5f-stops increase over the D3, regarding the ISO performance. And D3 borrowed its sensor to the D700.

        If they make a D4 with 1 stop increase in High ISO IQ over the D3s, while increasing the resolution to about 18 mpx, that would still be great. Add 11fps in FX mode, and greater Dynamic Range, and we have something worth dreaming about.

    • Anonymous

      Typo: D400 & D700 > D400 & D800

      I have a dilemma. ( D4 expert camera & D800 pro camera) or (D4 pro camera & D800 expert camera). Which one?

      • http://www.allenpix.smugmug.com Barbara Allen

        Since when is a Pro not an Expert??? Hmmm, well I guess these days he/she is not, way too often.

  • ladiesman127

    #1 – The rumor said “2 FX camera’s”
    Logic Jim, say’s it will be a D4 & a D800.

    The D3 is due for replacement as is the D700

    – D3 was announced 23/08/2007. Come august this year it will be old, very old.
    – The D700 was announced July 2008 – Time to replace it
    – D3x was announced December 1 2008 – It’s younger than the D700
    – The D300s was announced July 2009 – It is not old enough to be replaced this year
    (*thanks wiki)

    [The D4]
    It needs to be >24MP to out do the D3x and keep in the MP race
    Throw in a new expanded AF module, new battery tech, HD video, %100 crop viewfinder with liveView, Dual CF cards, USB 3.0, 11 fps @ FX, a redesigned body + crazy high ISO and dynamic range building on the D7000’s tech.
    mmmmmmm D4 goodness

    The D3 and the D3s were aimed at photog’s who want excellent high ISO capabilities coupled with high fps.
    The D4 should follow that model, along with integrating the best of Nikon’s current modern tech and hopefully a new generation sensor

    #2 – Why would Nikon spend money making a new sensor for a D800?
    We all know know Nikon pass the technology down the line so with any luck we may see the D3x sensor in the D800.

    If they do that some of the features must be cut back to differentiate it from the D4.
    It could retain the %95 crop view finder from the D700. They could reduce its high iso abilities and cap the fps at 5 or 7. One thing we can wish for is an upgraded body

    Bring on August

    • Andrew

      The D800 should have the new generation of sensor technology that is in the D7000, which apparently has light gathering capabilities that allows it to perform at up to ISO 25,000. The current D3x sensor does not appear to have the same light gathering capability as the D7000. So if the D800 inherits the same light gathering capability as the D7000’s sensor, coupled with the D800’s full frame sensor at 24 MP, it should outperform the D3x (since the D3x sensor most definitely does not have backlit technology or back lighting; thus it collects less light) in ISO by comfortably beating the D3x at higher ISO settings (ISO 6,400 to 24,000.) So, in this scenario, the D800 should have superior ISO performance at 25,000 than the D3x. This will be incredible since the performance of the D3x is already awesome in terms of sharpness and dynamic range. And the D800 should inherit the D3x’s excellent Expeed Image Processor and electronics, which produces “striking tonal gradation and fine detail” . All you have to do is to give me the D3x in a D800 body and the higher ISO, and I will buy it on the spot! But I am sure Nikon will update the Expeed Image Processor and the related electronics as well! In fact the D800’s full frame sensor should allow it to perform at a higher ISO than the D7000’s top ISO range of 25,000, even if the D800 has a higher 24MP sensor than the D7,000’s 16MP sensor. This is because the D800 will have a full frame sensor while the D7000 does not.

      You make a good point that the D4 and the D800 are the only conceivable – 2 FX cameras in the running for this rumor. The D4 may quite likely have a 34MP sensor or higher, exceptional dynamic range, and lower ISO performance compared to the D800. This will make the D4 the ideal camera for wedding and studio photographers. Wedding photographers may not care about high ISO when taking pictures in bright sunlight. And the Studio photographers are at the extreme of not caring about high ISO since they typically light up their pictures with a “million” light bulbs!

      In regards to the D300, I must disagree that 2 years is too old – because of the new technologies that have been released since their announcements; in particular the backit sensors producing higher ISO performance. In fact, the reviews are indicating that the D7000 may be the better buy when compared to the D300 (though the D300 has the edge in some areas); so it will not come as a surprise that the new D400 may also be announced – though it most likely will not be a full frame sensor camera.

      • FM2 fan

        The D700 is still a GREAT camera – just because it is a reliable product. Whatever the specifications of new camera will be: simplity and reliability are key to sell & for us to enjoy a relatively high priced product.

        The D3x is stunning – just a bit heavy…

        • Douglas Adams

          Forget about FX sensor in D400 people…People who will buy D400 are DX users with bunch of DX lenses which cannot do their stuff on FX bodies. Nikon would never do such a move!

  • Per

    The more one thinks about it, the more one realises how brilliant it is to take the fx sensor into prosumer territory. Imagine us walking down the streets with our great view finders, laughing at the 7Ders, making fun of the hapless mirrorless. At a price point 1,5 times the D7000, we will buy the D9000 in droves. And we will also be buying the 70-200/4 that Nikon so nicely will give us come August. Thank you Nikon!

    • Landscape Photo

      I won’t buy a sub-par D7000-like FX. A D8000, D9000 (or D400) will be DX though.

      Yet D300/D700 has the perfect size & ergonomics. I’d rather pay a little more for that.

      Why would anybody ask for smaller FX body while lenses are much bigger & heavier (with some exception like 50mm or 20mm, etc) ? It does not make sense. Worse, the FX prism won’t fit on a D7000-sized body anyway, unless they opt for an electronic viewfinder.

  • Francesco

    Official announcement for D800: “are you sure that 12mpx are enough?”

    http://www.clikon.it/uploads/ori/201107/gallery_4e295dc6f2608_Nikon.jpg

  • http://www.istockphoto.com/lostinbids lostinbids

    I think it will be a d4 and d800. Both will be 18.5mp using the kodak sensor. The d4 will have similar features to the d3s (pro body, fast, rugged) and the D800 will be like the d700 but with video.
    Or maybe they will chuck in the d3x chip and piss off the d3x shooters (by halving the value of their cameras over night).

    • Landscape Photo

      As they did with D300 to D2x… It’s in the nature of evolving technology.

  • Neomike

    My guess is the two birdies to fly this August out of the nest are destined to be D4 @ D4s. How do you like that?

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      That makes no sense. The “s” designation is for second gen of one body. It would not be released at the same time as the first gen.

      • Neomike

        Thanks. It’s just “genders” that got intermixed :) Read as D4 & D4x

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          Got it.

          While that makes more sense than the previous typo, I still think this line (coming from a rumor that is unvalidated and more than likely bunk, mind you) tells us that a D4 and D4x is also less of a possibility:

          “Technical spec and form factors will be significantly different”

          • Neomike

            If the last line holds, be it. But my wild guess is based on the ground reality in Japan when money matters no matter what.

    • Landscape Photo

      That’s almost impossible !

      The most plausible one is D4 + D800, though D4 + D400 may not be ruled out.

  • Canontroll

    I’ve seen people speculating that the d800(what ever it will be named) will have the d3x sensor. Im not on board with that. I love shooting in available low light. Isnt the d3x sensor only clean to like 1600? I dont know exactly so correct me if im wrong. BUT the d3s sensor speaks for its self. SO, if nikon plans to recycle old sensors into the new breed (which i find extremely un likely to begin with) heres to a d3s sensor in a d700 body!? But i would like to see an 18mp full frame sensor with iso performace at least compareable to that of the d3s. .And 1080p60 just for shits and giggles. I’d actually be happy with 720p whatever. Video isnt that important to me. Any one agree, disagree, hate my guts? Think i should die for such thoughts, or share an idea similar to mine?

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdanboeru22/ Bogdan Boeru

      Yes, but the resolution is huge. Resize those images to 12mpx and you’ll be surprised.
      Yes, 1080p @ 60 fps would be just awesome! I’ll need good video too.

  • charlie martin

    I was talking with a sales rep at my local camera shop and he indicated that Nikon would be releasing a D4/D400 combo in August. I would rate this @ 70% reliable. He didn’t indicate if both are FF or FX/DX.

  • Joe

    As much as I absolutely love the D3, I would not mind a D4. Especially with video (hopefully better than the d7000).

  • Landscape Photo

    The D4 must bring something revolutionary, something that no other camera has, if to be announced along with D800. There must be a good reason to shell out $ 5-6K for someone who already owns a D3s or D3x.

    Imo, the D4 can be 32mp with pixel binning option of very clean 16mp images. It may have an extra “res” button near the triple buttons (qual, wb, iso). This way, Nikon no longer needs to introduce two models like D4s or D4x. One ultimate camera for the high-volume professionals.

    Then, D800 may have an improved 24mp sensor from D3x. It may now include video & better low light properties having a base iso 200. It will share the form factor of D700, but with 100% viewfinder eventually. D800 will partially obsolete D3x as D300 did to D2x, or somewhat D700 to D3. This is inevitable due to the nature of improvement in technology.

  • Per

    Another point to consider is the state of the evolving market. Four years ago there were only compacts and dslrs. Now we have mirrorless systems that will give the same picture quality as dslrs in a much smaller package. So what’s the point of having a mirror? The whole point of the mirror is that you will have a view finder. And in order for the view finder to really shine, it has to be full frame. So in order to compete with the mirrorless, it makes sense to take the full format sensor into prosumer territory. But then the form factor has to come down.

    • Anonymous

      But live-view & EVF are next to useless at very low light.

  • Snap

    Visited a well known and well respected pro camera dealership in the UK yesterday.

    Was having an informal chat about what to replace my well worn Canon’s with and that I might switch to Nikon…..and they told me Nikon had said to them not to bother keeping a stock of D700’s, as a replacement is due to be announced in August. Interestingly Nikon didn’t say the same about the D3S. The dealer continues to stock them.

    I’ll believe it when I see it, but this is almost directly from Nikon. We’ll see next month.

    As for specs…….I didn’t ask……..as I doubt they knew any more than the rest of us.

    • Landscape Photo

      Assuming the 2 FX rumor + yours is correct, then possibly

      Pro: 24mp D800 based on improved D3x sensor, 100% vf, $3000
      Expert: 12mp D8000 affordable FX, D3s sensor on D7000-like body with evf or 95% pentamirror to reduce weight & bulk (I don’t think it will happen though), $ 2000

  • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

    The D400 will probably share the same same sensor as the Sony A77. Which is being announced in August and is thought to be 24mp. I would guess by the end of August Nikon will probably announce the D400. Though Nikon Romours suggests that Nikon will be releasing 2 FX cameras. Which would suggest the D4 and D800

    Ideally I think the D700 is the camera that needs replacing most in the Nikon range (ladiesman127 suggests the D3 is the oldest but it was replaced by the D3s, which was an updated version announced with a different AF, better ISO, added video and several other updated features). Where as the D700 hasn’t been updated since its announcement in July 2008 and is looking old when compared with a lot of cameras.

    I do suspect that Nikon will release the D400 and D4 and then announce the D800 several months later, which was very similar to how the Nikon released the D3, D300 and D700.

    I suspect with the Nikon Sony sensor tie in that Nik0n will try and put in the same sensor as the Sony A920 sensor, rumoured August 2011 and with a 32 mp sensor.

    I think Sony have had to put buck the A77 release date due to the earthquake in Japan so this is why it is around the same date as the A920 I would guess.

  • Anonymous

    500th comment… Yay! Is this a record for Nikonrumors?

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      Man, people aren’t anxious for the new models, are they. Sheesh! :)

      • http://500px.com/FriedToast Fried Toast

        I was one of the first people to have a D300 and the shots I posted on Flickr are still some of the most highly viewed shots I have. I can imagine a similar effect this time around for whoever is in on the ground floor.

  • R R

    Been a D700 and D3x user … I DEMAND full HD VIDEO ! on a FX body! grrrrr Banzai! before I jump of a bridge!

  • 120-300 F2:8 OS

    lens in the loop piggy bank okidoki now waiting for dslr to come

  • http://www.itsrich.info Richard hart

    Does anybody have an idea about the release date?

    I have been waiting a long time for this camera but will be doing a road trip around europe and would like the camera to take with me. I will be leaving end of September.

    I checked the d7000 announcement and release date. announcement first week in september, release late october early november. :-(

    at least it is on its way…

    • rhlpetrus

      Thom now says D800 for October and D4 end of year:

      http://www.bythom.com/index.htm

      “Basically, the crowd reading this site is interested in five cameras: the expected new Nikon mirrorless, and the replacements for the D300s, D700, D3s, and D3h. I believe I’ve called some of this wrong, so I’m now going to try to correct my predictions:

      D700 replacement: August 24 announce, October delivery.
      D3s replacement (D4): August 24 announce, December delivery to NPS pros.”

  • rhlpetrus

    Thom seems to have endorsed the idea of 2 FX bodies now, D4 and D800, scroll down to “Surprise”:

    http://www.bythom.com/index.htm

  • VRphoto

    D4 and D800 in august 2011, D400 in feb 2012 says Thom Hogan and I trust him.

  • portence flatulencia

    wow, strikingly different than i would have ever imagined. both the D4 and the “cheaper D4″ at the same time !? (not that i’m complaining – the earlier the D800 comes out, the earlier its price will begin to drop, and in the meantime, my D700 is still an awesome camera.)

    maybe nikon sees that the 5D3 is finally getting a proper AF system, and its hand has been forced.

    • Rahul

      D800 may not be a cheaper D4. It can have a different sensor.

      • portence flatulencia

        very possible about the sensors, but the ‘D800′ will nonetheless be the cheaper alternative to the D4, as they will both be full frame rugged bodies for professional use. many people will be asking themselves whether they really need to shell out for the significantly more expensive D4, or if the D800 will suffice for their hobby/business.

        this is mainly what surprises me about this rumor – that nikon the company would release both of these cameras at the same time, instead of releasing the more expensive camera first, to be snapped up by all the upgrade-hungry pros who might be able to get along fine with the D800 but can’t wait 6 months for one to be released.

        cheers

  • http://www.flickriver.com/photos/floydianben/popul Floydianben

    Just to say that D700 is out of stock in many french sellers !

  • Thomas Clark

    I have it on good authority today from Nikon Australia that the Nikon announcement on 24/08/11 will introduce the D4 (pro body). What the other one is I don’t know, I missed the last part of the conversation about the product release.

  • Bernard

    If the D400 is released in February what am I going to get for Xmas ?????… :(

    Would it be unreasonable to think that one of these two FX bodies will have APSC capability ?
    Why not after all ?… of course at a lower res than FX

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