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Weekly Nikon news flash #153

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Nikon D4 roundup:

  • Ten high ISO NEF files from the Nikon D4 can be downloaded here. More D4 and 85mm f/1.8 NEF samples are available for download here (the download may take few hours).
  • Nikon D4 test images and video @PDNonline.
  • Nikon D4 studio samples @dpreview.
  • Behind the scenes with Corey Rich and the Nikon D4:

HOW of WHY from Corey Rich on Vimeo.

I have often said, if I wasn't a filmmaker and photographer, I would be a teacher. There's great satisfaction in sharing knowledge & experience to help spark the creative fire in others.

When Nikon approached me to be a part of the D4 release project not only did they ask me to produce a video and stills, showing off the attributes of the new camera, they were also looking for a behind the scenes video spot detailing how "WHY" came together. This was an amazing opportunity, as it allowed me to simultaneously be both a filmmaker/photographer and a teacher. Though this meant everyone in the crew had to work twice as hard, especially Dane Henry. Capturing the action behind the scenes became just as important as the hero footage and stills. "HOW of WHY" is a great illustration of everyone's hard work and ability to multitask, plus proof that we all had a lot fun along the way!

In this spirit, now is a perfect opportunity to thank the key teachers that shared their knowledge with me. Thank you Bob Porter, George Egbert, James DuPratt, Jim McNay and Greg Lewis - I am forever grateful for the time you spent helping me to find my passion for adventure and storytelling.

For more detailed information on the production of "WHY" & "HOW of WHY" and the Nikon D4, check out our blog and the Nikon Professional Services Global site.

http://news.coreyrich.com
http://nps.nikonimaging.com/movie_shooting_guide/

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  • Jake

    Looser than what?

  • Joker

    why so serious

    • Jan

      cuz it’s a waste of time and space
      loser

      • Green Pattern

        hahaha

      • Johnny Andrean

        Everybody here should do it once

        • Rob

          And since admin will IP ban, that’s why you can only do it once.

        • jodjac

          I remember my first time. What a time it was. I was so nervous, I didn’t know what to do. I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to get it in. But I was excited too, and in the end, I did what I had to do and got it done. I didn’t brag about it, I was just happy that it happened (finally!). I guess you could say ‘I got lucky’. I was at the right place at the right time.

  • http://www.shortfingerphoto.com Nubz

    I’m glad the price of the grip is slightly more reasonable than the $600 originally quoted.

    • Steve Starr

      It’s still $616 on the Nikon USA site which is absurd.

      Looks like if the NY seller’s can sell them at $450 then Nikon’s price-fixing caper is hopefully over. I notice their cameras on their website now say “SRP as set by the dealer.” Must have done away with their MVP or Maximum Value Policy idea.

  • Twaddler Belafonte

    $450 for the grip? Gawd, and I thought they were gouging for the d300s grip. Yikes!

    • Jan

      You can buy a non-sealed 3rd party grip for around $70.
      Not a big issue

      • Joko

        3rd party grip…..wt…it will explode in ur face

      • OverExposed

        A fellow colleague shot a wedding event with one of his camera’s with a third party grip and it froze up under load. He missed almost all the wide shots in the church while swapping lenses with the second body. I wasn’t there but it sounded like total amateur hour right at the front of the church. Resetting the camera didn’t help until he removed the grip. He ended up shoot the rest of the wedding without the grip.

        Sure $70 sounds good but when you’re doing a paid job … what do you say to the customer when you missed a bunch of shots…

        • http://bypaul.weebly.com Paul

          I happen to have a 3rd party grip for my D700 (made by Meike)… I also happen to use it with either the EN-EL3e or the EN-EL4 (also third party, not original) and never had an issue whatsoever. If I were to buy the original pack from Nikon, it would have cost me ~$600 (Nikon Multi-Power battery pack MB-D10). The 3rd party pack was about a quarter of the price.

          That’s not to say that there are no 3rd party grip manufacturers who simply do not care about the customers, and that shows up in the final product (compatibility issues). I’m just saying that when somebody decides to go with 3rd party manufacturers, they just have to pay a little more attention to compatibility issues.

        • Nikon Shooter

          You’re making it sound like he’d spent the whole ~30 minutes swapping lenses. I’m sure it wasn’t that bad because a lot of people I know shoot with just one body and have no problem swapping lenses when they need to. The main question is where was his camera bag with all the back-ups? Anything can go out at any time and being a professional includes being well-prepared for such event.

          As far as third-party grips are concerned, I’m all for using the Nikon stuff. Except when you have to grip four bodies at $250 a pop and now at $450 it just isn’t that appealing anymore. I think the better use for this money is an extra back-up lens/body and some camera insurance than a fancier piece of plastic.

      • David

        I just don’t know why you’d want to put a plasticy 3rd party grip onto a solid magnesium-alloy, weather sealed camera.

        It ruins the weather sealing, and just feels shoddy overall

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          Agreed. The authentic Nikon grips may cost more, but from the build quality it’s immediately apparent that the one is not like the other. If the third party grips look like crap on the outside (pretty much all the ones I’ve seen do), then why would I believe they aren’t made of crap on the inside, hence the anecdotal stories of weddings being botched, cameras being fried, etc.

          Why would I hinge my $3k-$7k investment on a ~$200 difference in cost?

          • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

            As soon as I hit “post comment” I knew I didn’t want to ask that question. Let me try again:

            You are (obviously) welcome to purchase whatever grip you want, but I’m not keen to risk my $3k-$7k investment on a ~$200 difference in cost.

            • http://micahmedia.com Micah

              …agreed that the third party grips are not as durable, but having purchased one, I can’t say there’s any difference from a usability standpoint. I had a knockoff one for my D300 and it lasted a year. Not bad for $60 shipped. Eventually I paid $170 for the real thing and it continues to see good use on my D700. Well worth the money and avoiding a hassle. Although I could have bought three of the knockoff and had the same usability.

              However, I will wholeheartedly agree that $400 is gouging here. There can’t be anything in here to more than double the price from the MB-D10. And I resent having to buy a new battery system that is lower capacity than my current one. At a premium no less!

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              The D800 was the same price as the D700, despite it being cheaper (accounting for inflation) compared to 4 years ago. The higher-priced grip is a way to balance that out. The D800 with the grip is still cheaper than the 5DmkIII.

              Speaking of the Canon, that’s probably a good indicator of what the D800 should have cost. The 5DmkII launched at $2,700, where the Mark III is launching at $3,500 — an $800 difference. I think it’s reasonable to assume that we should be paying around $3,800 for the D800, a price that was in fact rumored for months prior to release. And that’s just for the body!

              I see the D800 AND the grip as a tremendous bargain, even at the higher price. Relatively speaking (dollars to dollars) it looks more expensive. But taking all the variables into account, it’s a steal.

        • an onymous

          Don’t worry mate, when you pull of the rubber cover, the contacts are already weather sealed, a 3rd party grip doesn’t “break” any weather sealing on the camera body itself.

          Nevertheless, I think Nikon decided to balance the price tag between the D800 and grip such that, you get a “cheaper” camera but then you have to spend more if you buy the grip, Nikon could have transferred say US$200 from the grip price tag onto the camera boy instead and we would have ended up with the same price for the combo anyway, Nikon pricing strategy?

          • Jorge

            I bought a Zeiko’s Grip for my D300 in 2008. I’ve used this grip on both my D300, and my D700 since then. I never leave home with either camera, without the grip. This month, it’s on it’s fourth year of heavy use. It has never, ever, ever let me down at all.
            Not bad for $79.00 Screw Nikons price. As soon as Zeikos comes out with one for the D800, I will be ordering it. No questions about it, no qualms.

            J

  • http://blog.nauphotos.com Nau

    Great video
    really enjoyed it

    • ARIzonaSteve

      +1
      I liked the original fine, but that video rocked. I really enjoyed the commentary, and the behind the scenes.

  • Jim

    Cannot understand why this battery grip cost $200.00 more than the one for a D7000 and the $10.00 increase in the EN EL 15 just sounds BOGUS. Sticking it to the consumer it is called. I’ll Stick with my D7000.

    • T.I.M

      We should be happy that the D800e grip does not cost more than the one for the D800 !
      :)

    • Brian

      They’re throwing a bone to their dealers. Dealers will make so little margin on the cameras at the price, that nikon probably thought to give them this to appease them.

  • T.I.M

    Photos can sometimes bring joy…..

    Today we were at St Augustine (Florida) as we often go with our 3 daughters.

    In front of the Castillo historic fort there a guy and his girlfriend, he planed to give her a ring and ask her for marriage (there was a huge flowers patern on the backround saying “will you marry me ?”)
    But……the photographer did not show up !

    I offered to take pictures, we had fun, and I hope for the wedding they will hire a photographer who care more about customers !
    :)

    • Calibrator

      “Do you remember how romantic it was when you proposed to me, Alfred?”
      “Just wait a moment, Gertrud, I have the pictures somewhere here…”

    • silmasan

      …cool story bro.

      (no, really hehe that was very sweet)

    • Jorge

      Amazing. Some of these “pro’s” out there have no morals, or scruples. A young lady that works in my office was getting married. She hired a photographer, paid him a small deposit, and the a-hole never showed up. She called me at home in tears asking me if I would at least come out and shoot some of her wedding images on short notice — which of course I did.
      I can’t believe some of these photogs will ruin someone’s special day like that… But, I suppose you get what you pay for. What’s worse in my opinion is the guy who does show up, shoots everything, then disappears. I know of one person this happened to. I suppose they screwed up the images, and decided to just disappear and not face the music…

  • Frank

    Nikon never says anything close to “D800 orders “unprecedented” They just say “Better than expected”. The title is simply to get more clicks to the article.

    Not that the D800 isn’t doing well I just wanted to point that out to all the gullible people out there.

    • Paul

      I suppose you’re labeling yourself as gullible? LOL!

  • Jabs

    I think that now that the dust has settled and we now have released cameras, the Nikon D4 and D800/800E combination will be very hard to beat but now most photographers have to basically ‘step up their game’ and rededicate themselves to and/or relearn photography.

    Both cameras are game changers technically and now require adept usage though they are indeed more capable, that capability comes at a price – the possibility of more mistakes being made by you and the camera’s output now showing your mistakes like never before.

    That is how Technology leaps ahead, like when the original D3 came out – only that the D4 and D800 are bigger leaps than the D3 and D700 were – my opinion!

    Technology has become more mature now and the major thing that I see missing in all the new cameras is merely USB3 and possible Thunderbolt interfaces, but the Nikon bodies have both hit home runs as far as Pro features are concerned and their implementation of features really make for faster equipment usage/shooting and thus the real reason for Pro performance. Canon too has done well, but Nikon has walked over them technically again, so now Canon is forced to depend on their new Video digital camera body ($16K+ US) and Nikon will probably counter with a D4X with the sensor of the D800 but with the electronics of the D4 or even dual Expeed units to handle all the expected data rush and give us faster framing rates and throughput at 36megapixels. Maybe Nikon will challenge RED with the D4X? Maybe?????

    2012 has been great so far and looking towards the rest of the year as drama and disaster free – perhaps – lol.

    • Koka Kola

      D4 is so so la…..it’s playing catch up…….D800 is the game changer….5D3 small step by Canon…..D800 giant leap by Nikon

      • jorg

        i think there is more to the D4, but most non-professional photogs here do not see it/ value it:
        the connectivity-issue
        the implemented video, which has even more features than D800
        the face-recognition
        even better metering aka metering+ face-recognition = new game
        16 MP is keeping up with the rising minimum demands of photoagencies

        all issues, that make a bigger difference for a all-day-working photograher/videographer/journalist than to an non-working amateur.

        • Jabs

          @jorg – Exactly.

          The word is “Working Professional”, as in one using a camera system daily in their WORK.

          That is where the D4 and all of Nikon’s Pro bodies excell.

          Features are like money in the Bank – you realize the value of them WHEN you need them and realize how much you NEED them, when they are absent = the reality of Pro gear usage.

        • legion515

          the D800 has face recognition and meters off of the face, just like the D4.

      • Jabs

        @Koka Kola
        What makes the D4 the game changer is that is takes some of the previous amateur/Semi-Pro camera principles plus body layout of the excellent D7000 and puts them in a Pro body with now advanced features.
        FA to F3 = the game changer – as in D7000 to D4 now. F3 and D4 are the game changers NOW similarly!

        D4 = the leader of the pack of new ideas and D800 = follower with higher megapixels or the FA in relationship to the F3 of the film era.

        D4 is thus the game changer as the D800 is a ‘watered down’ D4 with a higher megapixel count and a unique D800-E model that rounds out that innovation.

        The D4X will probably then be a PRO version of the D800 but with more processing power like the D3X has and thus faster framing rates with all the D4 features plus perhaps RAW video or such. Maybe the D4X will have removable sensors or sensor filters like how the D800E has? Maybe there will be IR and B+W only versions of the D4X – to complete the concept of the D800 in a Pro D4 Series body? Sort of an answer to Canon’s $16K Video body that does 1920-1080 HD Video only but cheaper than that at say $9K or less plus more versatile with higher megapixels too.

        Both bodies (D4 and D800) are revolutionary but they look like the D3 and D700 combo. The differences are quite apparent from their images, but the bodies are always purposely made similar by Nikon, to continue their professional use in a familiar way to Pros. Every Nikon Pro body handles very similar to an original Nikon F, so look at that. All Nikon Pro digital bodies look and handle alike by design, so that the learning curve and usage model is quite similar – this causes Pros to adapt to them quickly.

        Ever handled the OLDER Nikon Pro bodies yourself? Well try that and then see the famous Nikon commonality from generation to generation and you will perhaps understand why many Pros shoot with each successive generation of Nikon Pro bodies. I started with the F3 Series and could shoot any previous generation, any version of the F3 and now any Nikon Pro digital body.

        I recently used an older Canon Rebel body to shoot a fast moving scene and it was awful. I switched to an L22 cheap body and did better, as the Canon hunted badly for focus and this was in bright light. The point was that Nikon kept the usage model that I was familiar with and thus even a cheap P&S was more familiar to me and YES, I got more keepers, as the layout and shooting thrust of the Canon was too different for ME.

        The old saying – Canon’s are for those who cannot or don’t want Leica’s = their usage model. Nikon has its’ own usage model and follows no one, hence a mindset for Pros shooting Nikon gear. Nikon continues that tradition in both the D4 and the D800 = the new revolution!

        Basically Canon’s shoot and handle like Leica’s and Nikon’s are the opposite. Fuji is now emulating Leica’s old usage model in their X- Series and so is Micro 4/3rds. You see – I am a long time shooter and USER of cameras and the ‘game’ changes but usage models return and return, so hence you recognize that from being a photographer for years. Sorry for long post too.

    • Calibrator

      “now most photographers have to basically ‘step up their game’ and rededicate themselves to and/or relearn photography.”

      Not only do wedding photographers have to up the ante – the grooms also have to marry prettier brides!
      I mean everybody has his responsibilities, hasn’t he?

      • Jabs

        @Calibrator

        Short answer:
        Fuji introduced Velvia 50D Pro (the original one) and shook up Kodachrome 25 Pro.

        50D was finer grained and much sharper (used both myself).

        50D = finer grained slide film = equivalent of MORE megapixels in digital photography.

        D800 = Fujichrome 50D = relearn or implement the BASICS as in locking down your camera on a tripod, check your focus again and again, check your depth of field plus shutter speed, as the NEW camera is so good that it shows up or magnifies YOUR faults or inadequacies.

        That’s the point – ask a Medium format shooter HOW they shoot compared to 35mm film or digital = the answer!

        • David

          That’s not to say that the d800 can’t be a run and gun camera

          I mean they did give is a 51 point 3D object tracking autofocus, durable weather sealing and a 200,000 click shutter life. I don’t think that’s meant to only sit on a tripod in a studio.

          You’re right that you should do all of things for ultimate corner to corner sharpness when you have time to do so. That’s just good technique. But this idea that the d800 is only useable on a tripod is quite silly.

          • Jabs

            @David

            Never implied that the D800 cannot be used as a “run and gun” camera, as that would be silly indeed – LOL.

            I said – ‘Run and gun’ as a Mentality or an excuse = is the problem. Camera automation has increased ‘run and gun’ as an excuse to now not really learn HOW to photograph properly = my belief.

            a. Speed with excellent techniques = fast shooter
            b. Speed without excellent techniques or ability = the camera is shooting and you are just ‘watching’ it do its’ thing.
            c. Photography is the camera assisting YOU to bring about your vision, provided you do have a vision in the first place (lol).

            BTW – the F3 was the ultimate run and gun camera of its’ day (8fps), BUT when people saw my images from my own three F3′s, then it shut them up about the merits of a motor drive equipped F3 (the debate) – I shot mainly Fujichrome slides, Kodachrome, Ektachrome slides, as I hated negative film – too low a resolution for me (personal taste). Only negative film I shot constantly was B+W film with filters and polarizers and I got superior results to many of the Leica shooters, as they were about emotions and I was about emotion PLUS technical merit, as in having the right focal length, tripods, monopods, filters and camera body for the JOB of capturing an image.

            Print film teaches you sloppy techniques while slide disciplines your photography is what I learned over 30 years ago and thus I can shoot with any body and get good results = the Lesson.

            New D4 and D800 are better bodies, but if your technique is still weak, they will mask some mistakes and enlarge many others, as many early stills of both cameras clearly SHOW. That is what being an educated photographer rather than a body critic is supposed to teach you.
            I know both, as Engineering is my background and Artistry is something that I was taught as a dsicipline when I was younger (went to Art School) – therefore the best of both worlds – technical proficciency and artistic merit (in the eye of the one looking at the image).

            Not bragging, but trying to convey the importance of learning your craft instead of listening to Internet gurus to teach you when you need to learn this yourself by doing it, not reading about it – DOING IT!

            Basically – develop your artistic merit along with your technical merit yourself by shooting cameras.

    • Nikon Shooter

      “I think that now that the dust has settled and we now have released cameras, the Nikon D4 and D800/800E combination will be very hard to beat but now most photographers have to basically ‘step up their game’ and rededicate themselves to and/or relearn photography.”

      I’m very curious about what exactly I will need to relearn about photography. Is moving from 12mpx to 16mp or 36mp like moving from pinhole to a rangefinder? What about the light and composition, how will those be affected? Should I be doing something very different now? I just want to be sure that I can handle that giant leap into the unknown when the time comes. Would you be so kind and enlighten me, because I’m definitely willing to step up my game and rededicate myself. Thanks.

      • Banksie

        Yeah, I have no clue what he’s talking about: “rededicate themselves to and/or relearn photography.

        I guess he doesn’t realize that a majority of photographers have a past history of using 4×5, 5×7, and 8×10 view cameras, 6×9, 6×12, and 6×17 roll film backs, a slew of 120 frame gates (6×6, 6×7, 6×9), Hasselblads (both analog and digital), Linhofs, Noblex and Widelux panorama cameras, handheld incident meters, flash meters, color temp meters, Phase One and Better Light digital backs, etc.. Basically a wide variety of tools that we’ve been using for decades. What exactly is there to relearn with a basic high MP DSLR?

        • Sahaja

          Hmm…

          I’ll bet there’s now a lot of younger D800 customers that haven’t handled half the photographic equipment you’ve mentioned – except maybe in college. From postings I read in other forums, a lot of people who claim to be ordering this camera are coming from a D90 or something like that – and many of them seem to expect the D800 to work miracles.

          Saying that photographers will have to ‘step up their game’ etc. is good marketing because it helps give the camera the aura that it is a camera used by real experts – and that kind of perception never hurt sales.

      • http://molnarcs.500px.com Csaba Molnar

        Shooting discipline. Even the d7000 was an unforgiving camera when it came to accurate focus. Nasim at mansuvors.com did a pretty thorough research into the “focusing” issues reported by users of d7k. Turns out, most of them were user errors.

        Also, few people mention how important is the face recognition feature in the viewfinder – of course, this makes things easier for portrait, wedding, even events shooters. But it does take time to get used to it and use it to its full extent.

        So yeah, these cameras, especially the d800 will need better support mechanism and much better shooting discipline than anything before. Of course, if you’re coming from MF that might not apply (but the issue is pixel density – Thom Hogan has tons of stuff on this). Personally, it took me months (almost half a year) to get the maximum out of the d7k – now I can do events (not sports though) with a very good keeper ratio, but it took time to get there. That said, I mostly do interiours, and for interiour/architecture shooters there will be less of a learning curve – but still, there will be some.

        • Calibrator

          Agree with you on the D7000 and the Sigma 8-16 definitely is a beast but it’s well worth it, IMHO.
          I also like your insights on interior photography you link to on your biography page.

          • http://molnarcs.500px.com Csaba Molnar

            Thank you Calibrator for your kind comment :)

        • Jabs

          @Csaba Molnar

          Exactly – Shooting discipline = what needs to be relearned or watched if you already have this.

          In digital lately, because the cameras are so easy to use in ‘Automatic Modes’ many think that – buy a body, run and gun shooting now makes you a photographer – WRONG!

          Learn the basics and then improve your skill, as the newer bodies require shooting discipline and knowledge to properly use. Back to basics or advanced concepts now.

          Thanks for your post too.

          • http://molnarcs.500px.com Csaba Molnar

            Thanks Jabs for your kind response. I do think Nikon itself is a bit worried – in the wrong hands, the d800 will get some slack I’m sure, user errors misconstrued as “focusing problems” as switchers from d90s or lesser cameras will pixel peep at 100% and notice that their shots are blurry.

            • Jabs

              @Csaba Molnar
              Thanks for your comments and appreciated too!

              In this ‘Instant world’ we live in now, bad news travels fast and good news slowly – LOL.

              Nikon like others are always worried that early Reviews will ruin a great camera, but right now, we have a duo of great cameras with advanced features no one else has and thus ALL photographers and videographers have to catch up with the vision of the designers of the D4 and the D800 series. Nikon usually gambles on that while keeping a firm eye on their past offerings and thus the D7000 was the test guinea pig or lab rat to this new generation, so we are past that stage now.

              Time to enjoy the new bodies, as the D7000 and D5100 are already run away best sellers and a prelude to the new D4 and D800 = job already DONE by Nikon. All they have to do is now produce the newer bodies in substantial quantities and sell every one while we have to learn HOW to use them properly like all new equipment.

              It’s simple and not complex.

        • R!

          Yep,I’m with that pixels density/I add quality of pixels to it!
          D800 is definately ,a good balanced choice.

      • Jabs

        @Nikon Shooter

        Digital and analog photgraphy are both about capturing LIGHT and an image basically.

        1. Analog photography was defined by the ISO of the film, as in lower speed film gave better results.

        2. Digital photography is defined by the magapixel of the CAMERA as in higher megapixel at a certain size (FX, DX or CX in Nikon parlance) = better results or even bigger ORIGINAL files.

        3. Digital is defined by higher megapixels and film is the opposite as in LOWER ISO, hence many do not use ISO to refer to digital, as film is different from digital sensors.

        Bottom line:
        A 36meg sensor has more resolving power that a 12 meg one and thus your mistakes will be magnified, all things being equal and the 36meg camera body has better detail reolution than the 12meg one (In Nikon’s case, that is fact NOW – not so in past Canon bodies, for example – Expeed 3 makes the difference now, as it is digital and multi-channel versus the old analog models)

        Example:
        When shooting print film with lower resolution but greater exposure latitude, you could miss the exposure and then someone fixes this in a Lab to correct your mistakes and give you a finished product (Post Production -now). Slide film gives you exactly what the camera captured, so a 36megapixel D800 is more like slide film which show you your own mistakes, hence step up your game or expand your creative possibilities if you are already great at light recording and photography plus Video.

        Old is new and new techniques are often a return of old things in newer forms, hence the newer higher resolution digital bodies are a reminder to step up your game and check MORE, as you now are required to photograph things more carefully. Simple as that and not a put down (dissing) of anyone, but a mere reminder of the ART of creativity and newer possibilities. Get out your flash, filters and tripods, as the days of ‘machine gun’ shooting is over in a higher megapixel body and studied plus careful shooting is BACK = the advantage of the D800/D800E in my opinion.

        • David

          You’re right to one extent. 36mp will magnify your mistakes more, but that’s only true *IF* you view at 100%

          Those mistakes were always there but the low resolution 12mp couldn’t show them at 100%. But 36mp might. That doesn’t make 36mp worse, and it doesn’t mean that you’ve created a problem. The problem always existed, and the fact you now realise that isn’t a bad thing.

          If you output your files at whatever size you normally output them, those mistakes will be the same as they always were, regardless of how many MP.

          • Jabs

            @David

            True but you forgot about one important aspect.

            A higher resolution SENSOR now magnifies your mistakes even when you reduce the apparent size.

            The lens and body combination NOW determines your results IF the camera’s sensor exceeds the resolution of the lens – that is what you forgot or overlooked.

            Technique compensates to a point, but newer and better lenses are needed with a better sensor, as lenses and camera bodies are a TEAM and not individuals in photography or video work.

  • Paul

    Gilbert continued, “The feedback has been really good, and the pre-orders are unprecedented.”

    • Frank

      Yeah I see that now. My mistake :/

    • http://frisianphotography.wordpress.com/ FrisianPhotography

      Good thing you weren’t too gullible and take Frank’s word for fact! ;)

    • jodjac

      That Tech Radar blurb almost implies another camera is coming from Nikon (if you read between the lines). For one thing, there is the often repeated comment that the D800 sits along side the D800; yet the D700 is for all practical purposes been discontinued. They also note the D800 is a new category while talking about pent up demand for a D700 replacement, kinda hinting that this is not the replacement people have been waiting for.
      I’m all in for the D800. It’s just what I’ve been hoping for in a digital camera. I don’t think they could have met my desires any better (not that my needs and desires necessarily line up).
      Then there is the line where they want cameras in the stores so people can put them in their hands and try them out before buying them. They want happy customers. The technical guide, not exactly a glowing report on the cameras usability.
      If they come out with another camera that appeals to wedding photographers, I’ll probably buy that too.

      • Sahaja

        That Tech Radar article also says about the D800E

        “According to Gilbert, the D800E has also been received well. “Pre-orders are higher than anticipated. We’re quite keen to get retailers to make sure people try before they buy so that consumers understand the positives and drawbacks of using the camera.”

        I wonder how many people who have per-ordered the D800E without trying it and without even waiting for exhaustive test reports are going to get stung by those “drawbacks”.

  • Jabs

    I still am wondering what would have happened if Nikon was able to really release the D4 and D800 in August 2011?
    What a year 2011 was with so many wide ranging and unprecedented disasters?

    Anyhow, whatever God decrees, happens!

    Hope those who survived the disasters are getting along better and their lives are getting back on track somehow – here’s a ‘shout-out’ to those who really suffered and just a little note to perhaps brighten your day or night – “As long as there is life, there is hope of God’s Mercy and His help, so don’t despair but be patient.”

    I can’t imagine the level of suffering that people have endured, so forgive me if I seem insensitive to orignorant to your loss, as the real magnititude of your loss eludes my imagination due to you being there and not me, so be strong plus know that many other humans are pulling for your success and happiness in life.

    Have a good one!

    • hugoboss

      Deserve first post instead of that troll

      • Jabs

        LOL – well I can’t reposition myself as that would not be reality.

        First out the gate is first, even if you don’t like it.
        Thanks though.

  • http://www.seanmolin.com Sean Molin

    Those D800 RAW samples are so hot.

  • Brian

    When will these manufacturers learn that the people buying mirrorless cameras are in fact the ones who have been asking for them all along. Current dslr users. They’re just so afraid to cannibalize their low end sales.

    Note to nikon: I don’t want your low end dslr’s they aren’t really any smaller than my big dslr. But I DO want a second camera that performs well and is smaller. Sell me two cameras nikon! My pro/semi-pro camera and my small light alternative. The V1 is playing it too safe. I’m thinking of a nex7.

    • MuttonPuncher

      I think the Fuji X-Pro 1 will blow the NEX-7 away. I realize the X-Pro 1 body is bigger but it’s lenses are very compact compared to Sony’s.

      • Brian

        If the xpro1 body cost the same as the nex 7 I’d find it more appealing. Perhaps after more detailed reviews on both are out. Apart from the viewfinder and sensor tech, the xpro seems a little short on features for the price.

        • Sahaja

          The XPro body costs more – but compare the price of Fuji’s lenses to the price of the 24mm Sony-Zeiss lens.

          If you want to mount old manual focus lenses the NEX7 probably makes sense.

      • http://www.seanmolin.com Sean Molin

        The Fuji is looking mighty sexy… and with that M-mount adapter for Leica? Yum.

        VERY expensive system, though.

        • Mock Kenwell

          And unnecessarily big.

    • Yusuf

      Thumbs up

    • Brian

      Sell me the dslr with all the bells and whistles and AF wizardry as my main camera, and the stripped down, light weight lower cost M9 alternative with great picture quality when I just want to travel light and take pretty pictures. A d3s sensor in an m9 body with a selection of three or four prime lenses. Like the xpro1 I guess…

      • Brian

        I’d be way more interested in the xpro 1 actually if it either manually focused really well or AF really well. It seems it does neither very well.

        I probably would have ordered one already if they’d skipped the AF all together and just made three nice manual focus primes. Just look at how well zeiss lenses for canon and nikon seem to be selling. And all those buyers are putting them on cameras with highly advanced AF systems. This should be telling the manufacturers something….

        • MuttonPuncher

          Your points are valid Brian. I guess being a mostly landscape photographer that fast AF is not so important to me but I hope at least the X-Pro 1′s MF is more than adequate. If not then they certainly did drop the ball for marketing it as a pro level system. I just believe that the sensor technology in the X-Pro 1 will deliver outstanding image quality. Which is my main concern.

          • jodjac

            I wonder how well it focuses when using MF lenses, like Leica’s. Should be fine… With focus confirmation (it has that, doesn’t it?).

    • iamlucky13

      It’s stunning that they could say something like this:

      ‘”A pro version would be quite nice,” Gilbert said, “But ultimately, we want pros to be buying our DSLRs, so while it would be pretty nice to have within the market, it’s so niche that I’m not sure it would help us to be the number one brand.”‘

      Almost no professionals are going to ditch their SLR’s in favor of a Nikon 1. I’m shocked that people high up at Nikon seem to think a Nikon 1, even with as competent as that sensor has proven itself, can replace a D4, or even a D7000.

      A Nikon 1 would generally be a second (or possibly third) camera for a pro, and for lots of hobbyists like myself. It’s a sale you wouldn’t otherwise make, or else would make with a cheaper point-and-shoot.

      How about those hobbyists? They’re buying D5100′s and D3100′s literally by the millions, but they’re paying the same or less than they would for the mirrorless cameras, despite being mechanically more complex and having larger sensors. The implication is the 1-series should be the more profitable device.

      I can accept a reasoning that they don’t consider it a big enough market to pursue, even though I suspect they’re wrong, or that it simply is a low priority compared to other developments. However, I don’t believe for a second that a prosumer-style mirrorless is going to cannibalize high-end SLR sales.

  • Tokenhi

    I love how in the article about the “unprecedented” pre-sales, they refer to the D800 as a “semi-pro” camera. Does that mean the D4 is the only pro camera now?

    • Jeff

      i think its just how they have it, if you look at the adds at the back of Pop Photo mag. they have the D3X as a pro camera and the D3S as a semi pro per their rating chart. I would call the D800 a pro camera, wouldn’t you?

      • http://www.novumlucis.com Dr SCSI

        @Jeff…I would call any camera you shoot pictures with and make money off the images a “PRO” camera. Without a professional photographer at the helm, its just high quality build and features which differentiate the cameras.

    • Sahaja

      When it came out they listed the D7000 as “semi-pro” too. Dear, if you want people to think you are a professional just by looking at your cameras, you have to buy a brace of D4 cameras.

  • Wes
    • silmasan

      yes… esp. compared to the “Refurbished Nikon D5000 for $329.95″ which can actually take picture on its own ^_^

  • Rob

    First deleted post, that is.

  • Patrik Jonsson

    I don’t get it. If the camera’s been released to reviewers.
    How come we haven’t seen a full review yet? I understand that it takes time and that it needs to take some time but come on, do we really have to wait until June to get a full review? :(

  • OverExposed

    Does anyone know why the D800 grip is so expensive over and above one for the D700? Does it actually do more or have the potential to do more? Is it made from alloy like the one for the Canon 5D Mark III? Does it come with a quarter ounce of gold?

    Is Nikon just gouging because they can do it?

    • Calibrator

      > Is it made from alloy like the one for the Canon 5D Mark III?

      It’s reportedly made from the same magnesium alloy as the D800 body. I also believe that I saw a “bare metal” photo of the combination.

      But in my humble opinion it is clearly overpriced — very likely to compensate for the low margins on the body.

      It’s the same game as with the D7000, actually, and I’m quite disappointed in the D7000 grip. Although it’s definitely the original Nikon magnesium grip (very light indeed) I don’t feel that it is a big relief because the buttons & wheels are significantly different (as in “tacky”) to the ones on the body.
      Add to this the fact that you have to take it off when you want to change the battery in the body. I don’t care than many people on the internet sugarcoat this – in my eyes it’s inferior to a grip that houses both batteries (like the one for the D80).
      All of this for one quarter of the price of a D7000 body?

      While there is surely more material on the D800 grip it doesn’t offset the price balance to the already expensive D7000 grip. It’s clearly more expensive because the body is more expensive.

      Conclusion: When I replace my D7000 with a D800 in about two years I will definitely not get the grip for it – but your mileage may vary, of course.

      • Chimphappyhour

        The D700 grip is also made of metal. So far, I’m not seeing any reason why the grip for the D800 is more.

    • RondoX

      Actually here in the Japan the grips have always been around this price.
      The MB D1o was priced at about $450 here. Never knew why it was HALF the price in the states…. I refused to pay that price, and bought mine when I was home for Christmas.

  • Bill

    There’s hope for a pro Nikon 1? Will it have an APS-sized sensor? 1080p30 h.264 video?
    If not, no thanks.

  • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

    I have to admit, I’m a bit disappointed with the battery grip. The Amazon description implies that the battery grip only holds one battery. Presumably, the other battery is in the camera’s grip like normal.

    HOWEVER: The D200′s grip held two batteries and then had a “chimney” of sorts that fit inside the battery hole in the camera’s grip. This was nice because it added additional stability beyond the screw that bolts the grip to the tripod screw hole.

    This also means that it would be possible to design a battery grip that held two batteries (ala D200) but without the “chimney” (ala D300 battery grip). Given that, it would allow the camera to hold one additional battery for a total of three batteries rather than two. (Two in the grip, one in the camera.)

    I keep hoping Nikon will release a grip such as this but perhaps that is too much to hope. (And yes, I sure would love to have three batteries (optionally) rather than two so it is one less thing I need to worry about when on a long trip.)

    • Discontinued

      >> I have to admit, I’m a bit disappointed … <<

      Same here. I have the D800E ordered and it might very well become my very first Nikon SLR, that goes without a second shutter release/a battery grip. I AM DISAPPOINTED by the feel and lack of stability of the D7000's MBD11, which never really melts with the camera, no matter how hard you tighten the screw. This one looks very similar and the price is just ridiculous.
      On the other hand I consider the D800 as cheap. I would have probably ordered both (camera and grip) if the camera was 200 bucks more and the grip 200 bucks less. Maybe Nikon's pricing on this couple ain't too clever at all.

      • Calibrator

        I wouldn’t even consider it for $200. See my reply to OverExposed directly above!

        While I think that the D7000 grip has good stability (it is magnesium after all) the buttons & wheels feel somewhat tacky compared to the ones on the D7000 body which I consider great. The rubber material on the grip is also clearly not the same as on the body so it looks different. In fact some cheap fakes are better looking…

        However, my main problem with the grip is it’s handling and the fact that it only houses one battery. While the latter was my fault (I didn’t check that when I ordered it) I certainly did expect more of the same quality as the D7000 body for its asking price.
        It’s definitely the last grip I bought from Nikon (I won’t consider fakes because some are flaky or have a different wheel functionality).

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      First of all, I love the fact that we aren’t subjected to having to carry that horrendous “chimney” design in our bags anymore. Yikes!

      But I do have to ask, what are your shooting patterns that you need 3 batteries at any given time? Are you just wanting to charge once every few months without interruption? Or are you finding a way to drain these batteries faster than I can imagine?

      I ask because I shoot a TON of photos on my jobs. I will sometimes create 3-4k images in one day, and two batteries on these smaller bodies will EASILY get me through, especially if the camera is as efficient at battery consumption as the D7k is (it constantly blows my mind how power-efficient the D7k is, both in stills and video use).

      • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

        Ron, I have a chocolate factory (Amano Artisan Chocolate — see profile link). This means that I end up traveling through Central and South America in some very remote areas so that I can work with the farmers who supply our cocoa. Needless to say, I have many really incredible photo opportunities — quite frequently they are once in a lifetime opportunities. I’ll visit up to 10 countries per year each with their own unique personalities that are deserving of a photo essay. I just came back from Honduras looking at a cocoa project and it was really incredible — and perhaps one of the most beautiful countries I’ve visited so far and I really can’t wait to go back.

        Often I am not near a way to charge my batteries for days or even up to a week at a time and even when I am, I’m often running from 5am – 10pm and so tired that remembering to charge my batteries up in the evening sometimes doesn’t happen. Anything that I can do to make my battery changing life easier is a really good thing.

        • Victor Hassleblood

          Thanks for sharing your life, but what exactly is your point?
          You need to charge (and carry) a certain number of batteries if you want to last a certain amount of shots, no matter whether you put it in a grip or not. I have travelled remote areas and have spent up to two month without a socket myself. You know what? Just get the grip and carry as many AA-type* batteries with you as you need. Problem solved.

          *(also known as mignon or LR6, most common type of battery all around the world. And BTW LR6 is grown on trees, right next to cocao).

          • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

            For me, if I can have an extra battery in the grip, it is simply one less thing to worry about. I don’t mind the weight.

            I guess part of my point is this: The chimney at least gave some stability to the battery grip that is lacking in the other variety.

            The grip without the chimney leaves a lot of empty space in the grip when they only put one battery in it — especially when they can just as easily place two batteries in the exact same space. If designed right, you could have two in the grip and one in the camera. Perhaps you don’t take advantage of using three batteries but at least it would be nice to have that _option_. I would use it and perhaps a few others might. Options are in general a good thing.

            • Calibrator

              While I agree with Ron that the chimney design is a bit more cumbersome when packed separately I still think that Ron misses the point: Keeping the grip on the body all the time – which would eliminate packing troubles altogether.

              The empty space you have in the grip also influences the camera balance to a certain point – in my opinion it would be better to add weight to the bottom in the form of two batteries, considering that the grip is made from light alloy.

              And finally I don’t like this whole taking off thing because the electrical contacts (between grip and body) don’t get better from it.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              You’re probably right. Mine is likely not the most common use-case for the grips. I like the D700/D800 style bodies specifically for their shorter stature. I love being able to remove the grip when I’m needing to get a lower angle, and there have definitely been times that I’ve needed that extra 1.5 inches.

              Doesn’t make me want the D4 any less though. ;)

  • Jua

    Anyone noticed, that the article noted: Nikon says the d800 isNot a replacement for the d700??

  • http://blog.nauphotos.com Nau

    Admin
    1st more or less solid review of Nikon Nikkor AF-S 85 f/1.8G
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  • Brent Schmidt

    I like how they cover the NIKON on the D4 at the 10:00 minute mark, when clearly if you know anything about lenses you’d see how they used nothing BUT Nikkors so that pretty much gave away what camera maker it was. Still a great video.

  • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

    no, PRO NIKON 1 is NOT possibility. you, nikon, killed it with small sensor and mount which wont allow anything bigger

    • Chimphappyhour

      Clearly, there are plenty of other people (including actual pros) who feel differently that you do. ;)

      • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

        sure not
        those who “are” are about as same as with X100: lot of words, lot of excitement, real use is none or fun only for few weeks.
        but whatever

  • IndyGeoff

    At $450.00 I would look for an off brand one and if one could be had for half that I would go that route instead.

  • Ball_Lightning

    The new grip is WAY too expensive! I’ve paid about 400€ for the whole PDK-1 Power Drive Kit.

  • Crimed

    Just got an email from Amazon “the item you requested (Nikon D4) is now available to order” on Amazon and WILL BE RELEASED ON MARCH 20.

  • Dweeb

    Grip – isn’t it amazing though after all this time the only thing Nikon’s been able to engineer is much higher grip prices. I wonder when they’ll kill the goose that lays the golden egg. But people keep buying them, just like the outrageous D3X.

  • Cam

    Not sure why the video from al Nikon cameras just look so awful, flat, washed out and unpleasant to look at. Sure they are a handy tool if you are stuck and your main camera goes down.. that’s about it. To awkward and to slow to use in most circumstances unless you are shooting a well funded promo (say for Nikon) or you are just starting out and you have all the time in the world to get those fab shots. So in my opinion great camera but limited real use for filming. Oh how do I know? I’m a real cameraman shooting in real time with real budgets.

    • Anonymous

      Troll Alert!!!

    • Jabs

      @Cam

      Since most of the current Video gear has lots of R-G-B channel crosstalk, then the colors are hardly pure. DSLR’s have higher color purity and thus people call digital Video cameras at the high End, ‘clinical’ (colors do not run into each other for a muddy or warm/blue/green response) in their performance.

      You must be used to consumer gear or semi-Pro gear based upon consumer gear, as color smearing makes them look warm all the time and too MUCH depth of field in their lenses covers all the focusing mistakes, as now everything is in focus – just like rangefinders.

      Now, people call that better because they don’t know better themselves.

      How is that for answering your claims from a real Video gear user over the years?

      DSLR’s are about color purity, focusing purity and clarity PLUS their lower entry price into digital video.

      Look at RED’s homepage or Newtek’s web site to get up to speed, perhaps – as you make a common error that people unfamiliar with Video – make often.

      Educate a person rather than assuming they are trolls, perhaps!

      Ask them if they have seen the color purity of a D4 or even a D3S Video on a color corrected monitor and not on a lousy laptop screen??? Tell them to color correct their laptop via Windows 7, OS-X or Linux and then make another comment – lol.

      BTW – I am a firm believer in educating people even if their behavior reminds one something else – lol.
      Then by their responses to this education, you now declare that whatever you want from their own posts too!

      • Cam

        Mr jabs? I take it you are a male?

        First of all let me correct your assumption that I mentioned the word Troll? Please be careful as that was not my comment. Apology accepted.

        I read with great interest your description, although quite amateurish in nature regards the RGB crosstalk you mentioned. Now not going into minute detail of CMOS versus CCD and one or two other ways of collecting light, as we would be here all day although maybe we would be better off using CCD if it went into night as they are slightly better in lower lux and certainly less nosier. I use both, and the cheapest CMOS camera I own cost over 30k two months ago. I unlike yourself am a pro and make my living form filming and photography and have done for many years. My Bafta says I’m pretty good at it too!

        I have no idea who you are like you know who I am, but lets just say I think I know a little more than you do when it comes to video and filming. Your answer above told me that. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing for those who know not a lot.

        The Nikon D3s ( which I also own) is one of the poorest in the video sector I have ever seen. I make my money shooting on cameras that are 4 times more expensive than the RED and the reason for that is we need the best we can use and not some wanna be camera that has no definition and colour bias like a Nikon. My original post was to try and make a balance on a fan site that usually gets all excited about something new, and sometimes loses the sight of that in reality these cameras are really pretty poor at shooting video for the reasons above. Like I said earlier there are tools for every eventuality but for all round filming.. forget a DSLR.

        Now I know that you Mr Jabs, will be all upset from someone who is a Nikon shooter saying nasty things about a Nikon.. My advice? Get over it and start living in the real world and not hide behind a little amateurish knowledge.

        • Jabs

          @Cam – odd response when you did not call anyone a troll.

          Not upset as too grounded in what I do to pay much attention to what occurs here, as this is a Rumors Web site and bound to ruffle feathers.

          RED does great and there are many others BUT the subject was digital Video or actually digital Filming.

          Color separation is what you are describing while cross talk muddies the IMAGE and has little to do with either CCD’s or CMOS as those are sensor technologies. Multiple dedicated versions of EITHER sensor reduces crosstalk, hence pointless discussion showing YOUR points of reference.

          Try a Sony D2 old digital Video recorder that cost more than most complete Studios did and then compare that to a RED or a D3S plus D4.

          You hook things up to a scope to see the results or have trained eyes and a Broadcast Monitor with SPTME colors to KNOW the differences, hence not offended as you said nothing.

          • Zzzzzzz

            Jabs, you sound like some 65 year-old photogeek who just can’t shut up. Maybe get out of your TEACH mode and quit being so condescending towards people you only assume don’t know anything. This endless pontificating of yours is getting kind of old. You probably should have been buried along with Fred Picker, lol.

            • Jabs

              Some people know so much that no one can teach them anything while others know so little, that everything you say to them in a conversation is looked upon by THEM as you teaching them something, while you were merely talking to them and expecting feedback.

              As they say – EMPTY barrels make the most noise and thus I don’t post here much to the empty crowd. Hard to fill an empty bottomless barrel too – decipher that.

              Anyone calling digital Video or Filming as second rate is NOT worth posting anything to, as they just identified themselves as merely clueless.

              BTW – Video and Film or Cinematic Filming are two different disciplines, hence bogus information in their response that I purposely overlooked due to trying to keep the peace here.

              Anyhow, have a wonderful day or night – over and out.

          • http://molnarcs.500px.com Csaba Molnar

            You accuse him of being condescending?? Have you read the post he replied to? The juvenile “hey I’m a pro and use cameras 3 times more expensive than REDs” rant by Cam? If anything, Jabs is more civil and far more patient than many would be with trolls like Cam.

            • Jabs

              @Csaba Molnar,
              It is an old ‘joke’ here to tell me that I am condescending whenever they post nonsense and I tell them that ‘politely’ or even slyly that they are wrong or clueless.

              They usually lose the plot as they don’t know what a RED Digital Film Camera is apparently, so I left them alone with a hint to go look at RED’s webpage – http://www.red.com and Newtek’s – http://www.newtek.com, to go learn something themselves, as not inclined to argue with people here. They have prices there too!!!

              ‘Trolls’ are a name I don’t like, but that’s what they call pretenders here trying to get you angry and NOT biting, hence the other one chimed in and I set them also straight.

              No problem here as I have children and know how to correct a brat well – LOL.

              Thanks anyway, but used to it here.

              I could have easily asked them this one simple question and then watched them choke, but I chose not to as their post showed their ‘fakery’ to me.

              The question would have been – Name the highest resolution in megapixels of a Cinema/Video camera and then let them look foolish, but who cares?

              Tell me one Digital Video or Cinema camera with an FX sensor, then would be the next question, so nothing to gain from asking them anything as Price is not the determining factor, PLUS a basic RED Digital Camera is not priced at the baseline but the accessories are more expensive than the basic body only, so them giving you a price makes them a liar or a fraud in that respect, as they do not know how things are equipped for either Video or Cinematic use – hence nothing more to say to them.

              If you happen to think that a RED System with lenses, monitors, dollies, tripods, Hard Drives and all the needed accessories cost less than $100K, then you indeed are a little uninformed to say the least. Heck, Sony’s Cinema HD monitors cost more than six D4 bodies – for them to now get real – plus nobody shoots with one monitor too.

              One has to be nice as much as you can to the clueless or pretenders here as I know how much equipment really costs. This is not the one camera local Television Station reporter/video person in the field sent out to cover and gather news. They use cheap bodies and one person crews versus the bigger outlets using gear worth more than people’s houses and Cinema equipment usage is even more expensive. Anyhow, sorry to be long and enjoy yourself here but watch out for people who try to make a fool of you purposely!

            • Zzzzzzz

              Just for the record, I wasn’t referencing that specific post, but to ALL of Jabs’ posts here. About his illustrious background and how everyone needs to “relearn photography” (except himself of course, as he is the holy one), and all his other long-winded and insufferable posts.

              And dogma like this: “One has to be nice as much as you can to the clueless or pretenders here as I know how much equipment really costs.”

              He needs to go shopping for some modesty and maybe realize that there are many people here who have a wide variety of skill and history themselves, and quit being a condescending Papa Bear with the assumption that the rest of the world is “clueless.”

              People who do possess skill and knowledge don’t ever need to advertise it. But when they do it’s often a reflection of feeling insecure from having been disrespected at some point in their life.

            • Jabs

              @Csaba Molnar and Cam.

              The problem here often boils down to different people using different levels of gear. No one would compare a Nikon or Canon DSLR’s video to a RED nor to Broadcast Video gear, as they are different products aimed at different users.

              RED is Cinema gear and not Broadcast gear, as it shoots at higher resolutions than Broadcast gear. Broadcast gear, like Pro Video gear also fits in to a specific Eco-System that neither Nikon’s nor Canon’s DSLR’s fit into, as they were not designed for that.

              The thing that eludes many is the purpose or the Market that uses and loves DSLR’s despite their limitations and their inability to often fit exactly within the dedicated Broadcast or Pro Video Industry workflow, so many ‘pan’ this and then we have arguments here.

              People save money and then many Independent Cinema or Video professionals are able to use this new Category of equipment to now do certain jobs due to their smaller size, less complex or even limited usage model. DSLR’s do not replace traditional equipment but is a mere newer category that performs well in its’ limited scope. The limitations have been greatly reduced by the new Nikon D4 and D800 plus their quality has been improved versus what it was previously, so that is what many celebrate here as fans or users of that type of equipment. We have a new category of equipment.

  • http://www.photocedric.com Cedric

    Oh!
    At last, Tokina lens support with Nikon Camera (for my 11-16mm)!
    yay!

  • http://www.alexandre-photographie.fr tyler durden

    I don’t see any nikon D800 at rank 22 on amazon best sellers

    • Yagion

      The list changes daily.
      Now on Amazon Best Seller in DSLR
      http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/3017941/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_3_281052
      #1 = D800
      #2 = D5100
      #3 = D4
      Top 3 = Nikon

      • Jabs

        @Yagion

        Thanks for this list, as it lets me know what’s selling in what category.

    • wanderer

      It looks like the D800 is now the #10 best seller in Electronics, not just cameras or DSLRs. That seems incredible for a $3000 camera.

    • pegdrgr

      It now is up at #10, while the 5DMKIII is down at 73. It is interesting that there is not a single item above the D800 that costs more than $200.

  • http://www.flickr.com/groups/d800_club/ NikonCoupleSoFlo

    I had the Meike grip for my D700 always worked great – however it would not switch over to the body when the grip battery died – I lived with it as it was only $40 for the grip.

    I think if a grip cost as much as another body it should have a wireless flash transmitter in it. $449 is still about enough to buy a D3100 body only – so how the hell can you justify the cost?

    If you would like to learn more about the Nikon D800 join our flickr group:
    http://www.flickr.com/groups/d800_club/

  • an nonymous

    I just wish Nikon could have released some more future on the D800 as a sign of appreciation for the customers loyalty choosing the rather expensive original grip than a 3rd party, how about 8fps at 9 Mp (2×2 pixel binned) in FX mode, Nikon?

  • Patric

    >Pro Nikon 1 mirrorless camera is still a “possibility”…..

    Sorry… too late…

    Fuji’s Super X Toy will be my D700′s and soon my D800′s best friend….

  • http://www.thejordancollective.com CaryTheLabelGuy [NR]

    Just picked up one of those refurbed D5000s for an IR conversion. I just couldn’t resist at that price. Excited to finally own a IR converted DSLR.

  • Chris

    Can the MB-D10 grip be used on a Nikon D800?

    • Calibrator

      Nope.
      You’d have to use the Nikon MB-D12 grip for it (or a clone when they become available) as the D800 uses a different type of battery. The body also has different dimensions compared to the D700.

  • T.I.M

    ****************************
    BAD NEWS
    Today, in France the D800 (e?)
    have an extra 15-30 days delay
    ***************************

    This is bad and remind me when the F801 came out, 6 months wait to get one !
    I hope it’s only for France.
    :(

  • Rich in TX

    I went to the Nikon event in Austin today; got to handle and shoot with a D4 and a D800, mounted on a shoulder rig and unmounted. I have a D800 on order, to replace my D700. I was a little disappointed by the grip on the D800; the back edge of the right grip digs into my palm; it does not do so on the D700. This is my main gripe with Canon’s; they hurt my hand.
    Other than that, it was a super solid beast. Feels a little smaller than D700 too. Frame rate definitely feels a little slow. Oh well.

    The D4 was absolutely perfect. So comfortable; 12 fps sounds so good. Shot images in dark room at ISO 12,800 and they were so vibrant and beautiful that I would have thought they were shot at ISO 1000. Absolutely phenomenal camera. I can easily now justify the high price. It definitely feels like a $6000 camera and if I had the money I would get one without question.

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