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The name will be Nikon D800, the sensor will be 36MP (99% probability)

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On September 29th, digicame-info published those Nikon D800 specs (Google translation):

  • What number of pixels is 36 megapixels.
  • 4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
  • A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
  • Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
  • Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
  • 86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
  • Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
  • Two media CF card and SD card slot.
  • Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
  • Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.

I initially did not post this online, but after receiving some additional info I can now confirm with a 99% probability only the name "D800" and the sensor size of 36MP.

The D800 will basically be a mini-D3x. Do not expect the same high ISO performance as in the D3s. This is probably Nikon solution to separate both product lines (before the D700 and D3 had the same sensor). Please note that I cannot yet confirm the remaining specs above but I believe most of them correct. I am still working on the details and will have some addition info later today or tomorrow.

Stay tuned, it has begun! If the specs are out, expect announcement before the end of the year (I would say 30-60 days from now).

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  • Image

    Guys, this is clearly not the model that’s intended to replace the D700. This model is very likely a D800X. The D800 will be the camera that replaces the D700 and it’s not this one! 99% probability that the admin got the name wrong by one letter(X). Stop freaking out because Nikon knows exactly what they are doing and they know exactly how successful the D700 was/is. Why would they change the entire formula instead of just improving on the success? People just don’t seem to stop and think much these days.

    • jen

      I disagree. IMO…This will be the replacement. They are not going to have a D800 and D800x. Video will be standard in all cameras now so there wont be much need to upgrade.

      • http://AdairCreativeGroup.comp Ron Adair

        See my comments above @Image’s to hear why I agree with Image. There is a very high chance this is NOT the D700 replacement, but another body in the lineup.

    • Bob knows best

      Great observation thats what I think as well, this rumor is off.

  • http://tumbleweed-092.livejournal.com Slow Gin

    It seems like my next camera would be D700. Upcoming D800 is just too expensive for me. :(

    • Jose

      Agree, US$ 4k looks a upgrade of D3 instead of d700 to expensive for me either.

      • Richard

        Exactly. This would leave the Canon 5D MKIII uncontested in the market place, pricewise anyway.

  • marco

    my opinion (and desire) would be a Nikon FX-format camera with a sensor to 18mpx – 21mpx max.
    and a shutter speed of 7 / 8 fps with ISO noise reduction equivalent to D700 (and even Full HD video, but not essential for me).
    all the current price of the d700, with no increase …
    that’s asking too much?

    PS: I also believe that the model we’re talking about is not a substitute d700!

  • Booomer

    A D700s with 16~18 mpx, better low noise levels and better dynamic range in the range of at least one stop better than D700, together with some pro-video/cine camera features for video would be a killer IMO.
    IF the rumor turnes out to be true:
    36 mpx is too much, and I’d see it fit on a D4x, not on the D700 class
    24 it’s just fine for a FF camera, Nikon and the others should focus on sensor technology and performance instead of megapixels. Engineering and photography-wise technology, not marketing.
    First Nikon 1, now this… WTF.

    • marco

      totally agree! 20 megapixel or the like, are just fine. better to focus on the quality of the sensor!

  • http://blogphoto.olivieramade.com oa

    D7000, 16MP on DX = 41 kPixels/mm²
    D800, 36MP on FX = 41 kPixels/mm²

    These 2 sensors have exactly the same pixel density, so they also have identical needs regarding lenses resolution.

    We can also expect the same noise level and dynamic range …. scaled up to FX.

    • nitpick

      D7000, 16MP on 23,6×15,6mm = 43,5 kPixels/mm²

      That would equal 37,5mpix on 36×24.

  • http://blog.dafyddowen.com Daf

    WANT!

    Ok yes – I’d be happier with something inbetween i.e. MPx in the high teens/20s and great HighIso performance.
    But don’t think I’ll care any more – I’ve waited about 3 years for this!

    I’m one of those people that’s normally cheap and would wait for the price to come down after few months – but in this case I think I’ll do a pre-sale order!

  • Samuel

    maybe it will be a 36 MP-Sensor which can be switched to 9 MP – with the 4-times ISO-height… THAT would be brilliant…. 1 px would have a huge size…

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      You can do that with any camera

  • Jabs

    @Administrator

    Thanks for the timely information – about time too since I posted this before you – LOL

    1. What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels.
    2. 4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
    3. A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
    4. Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
    5. Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
    6. 86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
    7. Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
    8. Two media CF card and SD card slot.
    9. Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
    10. Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.

    Should have been MAYBE

    1. Number of pixels is 36.30 megapixels.
    2. 4 frames per second continuous shooting with the body only – about 6 frames per second in DX mode with the optional battery pack.
    3. A little later on there will be released a model which eliminates the low-pass filter.
    4. Full HD video at 1920 × 1080/30p.
    5. Headphone jacks that will allow output to an external device such as a PCM sound recorder – Moving to USB3.0 – Available new small wireless transmitter.
    6. 86K pixel split controls AF, exposure, white balance, etc. capabilities plus Face Recognition AF features too.
    7. Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, higher resolution.
    8. Two media slots for CF card and SD card.
    9. Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
    10. Manufacturer’s List price is about 300,000 yen. The camera will be announced on October 26 and released on November 24.

    Comment and questions:
    1. Darn Google computer based translation – lol
    2. Does this camera have 6 fps or higher fps with the optional MD or grip also in native FX mode?
    3. Does this camera have a 3x RGB sensor or filter array like the Sigma thrusts and then does this explain why Nikon and Sigma got into that Patent dispute?
    4. This sounds like a new Nikon designed and built sensor plus a different style body that maybe is like the Nikon 1, as in having AF on sensor but not mirrorless?
    5. Wide squat body too then, if the rear LED (probably) monitor is bigger and then probably 16:9 ratio plus switchable to 4:3.
    6. WOW – Still and Video convergence just took a new leap forward.
    7. First there was the Nikon1 and now this is the Nikon 2 – LOL.
    8. Bring it on!
    9. Where’s the D4 and the D4X – lol – just teasing or aping the ‘complainicons’ here.

    • Jabs

      Maybe

      6. 86K pixel split controls AF, exposure, white balance, etc. capabilities plus Face Recognition AF features too.

      This

      6. 86K pixel SHIFT controls AF, exposure, white balance, etc. capabilities plus Face Recognition AF features too.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      Jabs, I do not know anything more than what I have published online already. I could confirm only some of the features listed on the Japanese site and so far they appear to be correct.

      • Jabs

        @Administrator

        Thanks and best to you in this hectic time.

        New Neeekons – yeahhhhhh!

        LOL.

  • marco

    maybe I’m wrong …. but I think Nikon divided into two sectors and two different cameras (or at least I hope) a more expensive camera with a sensor 36mpx,
    and another camera similar to D700 (in price and in concept) but with a few more pixels (18-20mpx) you say?

  • CR

    wow!! far too expensive for me! with approx 3K EUR this will even make all d700 even more expensive, as it has increased in the past 12m.
    That’ll make people think of changing to achievable full-format brands like canon, sony.
    sorry, want FX now for 200.000 yen/ 2000eur!
    Nikon’s way OFF their amateurs customer base now with Nikon-1 and with such D800!!!
    increadibly off!

  • CR

    wow!! far too expensive for me! with approx 3K EUR this will even make all d700 even more expensive, as it has increased in the past 12m.
    That’ll make people think of changing to achievable full-format brands like canon, sony.
    sorry, want FX now for 200.000 yen/ 2000eur!
    Nikon’s way OFF their amateurs customer base now with Nikon-1 and with such D800!!!
    increadibly off!

  • Nicola Ciancaglini

    That is more than £2500. What the hell…

    • http://blog.dafyddowen.com Daf

      Remember that after the initial rush – prices always settle down to a lower level.

      According to Amazon RRP of the D700 is ~ £2,300 (But sells for ~ £1800)
      So £2,500 for a “better”, newer camera isn’t far off

  • Starfires

    This does sound like far more resolution than I’d need. Not so sure though that the best lenses can’t resolve it, if they are working fine at 16mp DX, or 24mp FX already, not that different. I do like the idea of having the D7000 inside it, if you like, as someone having a lot of good DX glass. It also makes for a great cropping camera for macros or sports- having a shorter lens but getting the desired result is a real possibility here, so I wouldn’t ignore potential benefits that are ‘culturally’ frowned upon with our current sensors where resolution drops away so rapidly with crops.

    The kicker is the price. I really don’t want to pay that much, rather $2000 or so with the rest for glass, holidays etc. Not a good price for a consumer/prosumer product IMHO. If Nikon are serious about FX for more than the elite pros, they’ll either drop to price or make a cheaper alternative. Seeing as they have the 28-300/24-120mm lenses, it sounds like they are going to make a more mainstream FX camera to go with them. Just, maybe… not yet.

  • Camilla

    Then I’ll be waiting for Nikon D800s for The ISO-performance.,

  • Simon

    More like 26mp or Nikon will lose many freinds.

    • Jose

      Just wait for final notice, but many post ago, I heard that 16 megapixels is not enough, now i read 36 Mp is too much. Please any body can explain me What Happend?

      • Anon

        20-24mp is the sweet spot (range). Nikon won’t make the most anticipated camera on purpose. There will be always something desired.

  • miguelito

    This actually makes a lot of sense. Consider the sensor in the Sony NEX-5N. It is an APS-C sensor with 16.1 mp. If you assume the same density of pixels, you get 38.1 m for an FX sensor. Additionally, if you look at the ISO range of the NEX-5N, they look amazing (dpreview’s review is out). So it makes a lot of sense to me that Sony will be producing this sensor in FX size for the D800.

  • Calibrator

    Unless a D400 comes along Nikon will have a GAPING hole between $1000 and $4000 — Nikon surely does not expect masses(!) of people still buying a D300s, or do they?

    Also:
    I hope the D800 will have an articulating screen or it will be bashed by all magazines!!1!

    (runs away snickering)

    • Richard

      I have long posed the question about DX pixel density applied to an FX sensor and then drawn down a little to improve the high ISO performance, but this makes no real sense as a marketing decision. If true, this would leave a very large set of price points open to the competition and a lot of very disappointed Nikon users. That is not a winning marketing strategy to my way of thinking.

      Could it be that this rumor is a hodgepodge of bits and pieces from very different models assembled into some sort of Frankenstein monster?

      Given the recent 1 series introduction, we should be afraid that this rumor may be accurate. If so, it bodes ill for Nikon.

  • Rahul

    700 comments !! Is it a new record?

  • Jabs

    WOW – This is a crazy FOUR month period with all these Releases and more to come.

    August, September, October and November indeed will leave our heads spinning and maybe not the time to buy much gear until after the dust settles.

    Sony wowed us first
    Nikon second and still continuing too
    Canon probably third and about to lay its’ own ‘smackdown’ on their competitors
    RED is flooring us too and about to drive us into hyperspace with new Projectors and new gear to perhaps compete with both Sony and Canon.
    Apple is running over the smartphone market as I post – LOL

    What’s next?

    Oh yeah – AMD is about to lay a ‘smackdown’ on Intel or is that the other way around.

    Sigh – now I need that one million bucks pronto.

    Anyone have a LEGAL way for me to earn a million bucks without pointing me to gambling or the Lottery, as I don’t do either – LOL.

    Exciting times fer shizzle.

    ON with da complaints nerdicons as no one can ever please YA.

    Over-analyzing with your brain and under-utilizing it to make a change or a real Geek fest here of talkers mainly – lol.

    Their possible NEW comments here now:
    WHERE’s mah D4, D4s and the 48meg D4X Nikon – 36megs suck big time, right?

    I can’t make mountain size billboards anymore with just 36megs and that Gigapan thingie is too huge and takes up way too much time to set up plus use – make it ah NeX size or smaller and we have a deal – OK

    PLUS, it better not cost over $2000.00 – maybe a nice round figure ‘likeS’ $1999.95 US dullars and we have a deal on dat new D4X plus cue me in on when y’all thanks that we all will have a 60meg D5X, so that I can plan mah E-Bay or Craigslist strahtegee too.

    Heard me Nikon or is that NeeCon – lol

    HOW to whine yourself out of reality – for sure!!!

    NOTE:
    This is just humor and not aimed at anyone in particular, so calm down please – pretty please – LOL

    Jeyss having sum fun -know whad ah mean!

  • d3s

    Check out this rumor on sony alpha rumors, they actually are pretty close on what they say… it’s a sony developed sensor that will used both on the upcoming d800 and the new sony FF coming out next year…deal is that nikon will get to use the sensor first then sony will follow, d800 will have an ovf and the sony ff will be slt with evf and cheaper… Sony and Nikon are actually partners in terms of sensors… so most likely the d300 replacement will either have the sensor thats in the a77 or nex5n…

  • Chad

    These specs are for the D10.. not the D800.

  • http://www.bodasfotoyvideo.com Pablo hill

    I was hoping a full frame d7000 with higher iso. 36mp’s is way more than i need. Maybe i’ll get a second d700 once the prices come down… I have to admit i just got a d7000 and super ,ove it

  • Phil

    It’s unfortunate that the top of line models have reached such astronomical pricing. When I bought my (then) top of line Nikon F2SB back in ’78, it was withing the reach of the then janitor that bought it with his tax return check! :-)

    And even if you couldn’t afford a top of the line body, an FM or similar body allowed you to slap a Nikkor on and have the same photo-optical image quality that you could get with a top of line body.

    That’s not the case today. Although more “mortal” modern Nikon bodies deliver excellent image quality, slapping a high quality Nikkor on it will not give you the same image quality that a top of line model will.

    But that’s the way it goes, I guess…

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      @Phil:

      “slapping a high quality Nikkor on it will not give you the same image quality that a top of line model will.”

      What kind of criteria is driving this claim? If you’re talking sheer number of pixels, then no, nothing at the consumer cost level will match the D3x. If you’re talking high ISO, then you’re right, you can’t get D3s IQ in a $1k camera. But in both cases, a big, fat “Yet” accompanies these statements. I’ve printed amazing 13″x19″ images from my iPhone, with plenty of resolution for possibly even double that size.

      Even with the above considerations, you can easily pay <$500 today and get much better performance from a camera than you could get 25 years ago.

  • garrie

    the real question for me is what is the dynamic range? i.e. how many bit, Nikon is leading the way atm, will this be 16 bit, if so we may see an end to mass shootings, as we’ll have to edit much better because we’ll not be able to store as many images.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/kazinvan/ Mike

      Who says we can’t store as many images?

      • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

        @Mike:

        Please, tell me you understand the basic premise of garrie’s assertions.

        • Bill Stokes

          Whats a camera?

          • http://AdairCreativeGroup.comp Ron Adair

            Exactly.

      • Jabs

        @Mike

        In posting this:
        ‘the real question for me is what is the dynamic range? i.e. how many bit, Nikon is leading the way atm, will this be 16 bit, if so we may see an end to mass shootings, as we’ll have to edit much better because we’ll not be able to store as many images.’

        Maybe they meant this:
        1. What will be the dynamic range of this new camera – D800?
        2. How many bits, as in will it be a 16bit RAW file camera?
        3. With this move to 16bit RAW file capture, then because the expected files would be so huge, we might see a trend towards slower shooting speeds or even slower shooting by photographers – like less gun and run shooting, perhaps!
        4. We might have to decide when we edit what are keepers and what we get rid of more, because of the heavier drive space requirements. The 16bit files would be so much larger and thus force us to weigh more what we shoot and also what we keep instead of ‘machine gun spraying shooting tactics’ adopted by many digital photographers -versus- what film shooters used to do, due to being forced to shoot with 24 or 36 images per film cartridges.
        5. We might also have to slow down our shooting and think carefully before shooting now due to the increases in file sizes versus the expected hard drive space requirements, too.

        Perhaps, now the original poster can now comment on whether I expressed their idea or comments properly, was way off or correct it themselves.

        I work with people who are not native English speakers quite often, so I maybe have developed an understanding of what they are trying to say -lol

        Sorry if I am also wrong and you are a native English speaker – lol

  • Kevin

    Can I play Angry Birds on the rear touch screen of the D800 too???

    God knows I might need it while I’m taking bill-board photos so I can upload to facebook….

  • mike

    canon L series lenses have been tested to be able go handle up to 60 mp. I
    can only imagine Nikon’s could handle the same or more

    • garrie

      really? my 24-105 L series can’t handle 21mxp, across the range. the 85 f1.8 and the 200mm f2.8L can, the 35mm f2 can’t nor the 100mm macro (non L) as the L series is L series because they have to have special glass to fix the problems that the big apertures create, i would doubt they are better (he’s one for you, which is optically the best, 50mm f1.8 mk2, the 50mm f1.4 or the 50mm f1.2L? without looking at the mtf curves ;-)

  • http://www.markmimage.blogspot.com Mark

    This is total make or break for Nikon for a lot of its consumers. I don’t get the specs on the D800, surely a 36mp sensor doesn’t guarantee better images alone! The ISO hasn’t changed much, slower fps than the d700, there is nothing groundbreaking in this camera at all! Touch screen? meh. This camera is a whole lot of meh.

    Let’s hope when this comes out it we’ll be laughing because with thought it was going to be crap! Otherwise the 5d mkII is on my Christmas list.

    • Calibrator

      What I don’t understand:
      Why are all people threatening to buy a three year old body (and possible lots of new glass) just because Nikon may not bother to fill your Christmas stockings?

      Where are the advantages of the 5D Mark II over the D700 apart from resolution and video? Why not buying a camcorder first to make your first steps as the next greatest director?

      The D700 costs about the same and can use all your Nikkors (like the D800, by the way)
      Or do you guys actually don’t have that much glass to begin with?

      • http://blog.dafyddowen.com Daf

        I’m not thinking of jumping ship but …….

        I think both Nikon and Canon have missed something with the whole FX thing.
        They should be making Body and lens kits subsidised.

        Yes – I have Nikon mount lenses – but quite a few of them are DX and so I’d likely need to change them anyway. If people were to jump ship it’s during the DX -> FX upgrade.
        However the lens kits I’ve seen are generally more expensve than buying the parts seperately!

  • M

    still no news about an available “Small-RAW”… this is a very important feature at a professional level… and nikon finds that everybody everywhere wants to shoot at maximum resolution all the time?

    • http://www.4togadget.com/ HotDuckZ

      JPEG-FINE, NORMAL, BASIC is better choice.

    • http://www.4togadget.com/ HotDuckZ

      And you also used Compressed RAW too, Canon doesn’t have it then they offer sRAW. :)

    • M

      try comparing editing a JPG (whatever quality) with a RAW file…
      you cant even call editing a JPG “editing” because the slightest correction makes it look crappy.

  • Geoff

    Welp this is one gent who is buying a used D3s when this comes out.

  • marco

    I’m curious to know how many megabytes weigh the files to 36mpx …
    the HD of my Mac is filled with the files of “D300S “!!!!!
    ;-)

  • kang

    Personally, there are important questions.
    HD 1920 x 1280 24p is not it possible?

  • marco

    and more …. Apple computer is going in the direction of the connection port thunderbolt;
    and Nikon?! take that road? or USB 3.0 ???!!!

  • Dogs Dinner

    D800 going for 4k?!!??

    This price point will most likely push the D3 upgrade pricing into the stratosphere.

    If this pricing scheme is accurate it will be pushing many of us Nikon shooters over to Canon. I for one will be packaging up my Nikon gear for trade in.

  • Darkshift

    Comment from a Canon user:
    If the 36 MP thing is true, me might be very tempted to purchase D800 with the 14-24mm. I don’t think Canon has as good equivalent available.

    Good lenses are still sensor limited no matter what some people claim.

  • DaveyJ

    My own reaction to the 36 MP is ……not good news. I do note the 99% probability of being right. I also feel the price is taking away some of the draw of the D700 if that $3,500 to $4,000 price tag is correct.

  • Tony

    I need a camera to replace my very tired D3x and i hope this is it. Bing it on. Preorders yet?

    • Kni-Kno

      you sure its not a Knok-off D3x you own, did you say “preorders yet?” on a rumor but now that you mention it I think Walmart started taking preorders on the D800 and D900x.

  • Sammy

    Since I rarely shoot raw….and most definitely D800 gonna offer multiple jpg resolution…probably 12mp, 24mp and 36mp….. if I shoot at 12mp, wont the maximum ISO performance increases according to the jpg resolution chosen….which in this case for 12 mp acceptable iso performance would probably be 100-12800…..a 1 stop ISO gain than the recommended 100-6400…or possibly even 2 stop gain?

    • Cartmen

      Nop doesn’t work like that I’m no skientis’t but its something to do with sensor design so no but as some have mentioned somewhere on these forums there are some cameras that are capable of doing just that so when you reduce resolution ISO increases but that was only shooting raw i think and Sigma was one of the companys that use that…. I’m sure someone elese would be able to give a better answer who went to skientology school. heh :-)

  • aetas

    I can’t way to see the quality of the images that come off this new camera. I will hold my praise/complaints till then.

  • http://www.zekarphotography.com Michael

    700+ comments now, maybe it will max out at 800 and people will complain the comment box is to big? I can tell people are waiting like I am.

    Just remeber!

    A lie makes it half way around the world before truth gets it’s pants on!

    These are rumors after all, lets wait before we get exited or disappointed. :)

  • Thai Tom

    Well it make sense, even camera phone have 8mp…..what happen to the fate of medium format camera…..?…..do we even need it ?….. i wonder whats the opinion of professionals…like fashion photographers……?

  • Tokosinar

    36mp…this sucks…

  • Unyil

    Come onnn!!!…I want Nikon sensor…not Sony sensor….now i gotta wait for D4 for comparison….

  • Starbugs

    Haha….Thanks to Sony for firing up Nikon in the megapixel race…..and dragging Canon along too….wohooo

  • Sahaja

    99% probability? – then it must be a virtual certainty. Way above the usual rumor level.

    Any idea of when it will be officially announced and revealed?

  • Craig

    86K pixel split control? meaning…?

    anyone?

  • Jack

    I find it counter-intuitive that Nikon would go for such a high mpx sensor….

    Everyone knows that Nikon sensors are made by Sony and so far the trend has been for Sony to go all crazy about the mpx war while sacrificing noise performance and image quality. Nikon would take their time engineering their camera to perfection before releasing great cameras when they manage to strike the ideal balance between mpx and image quality.

    There is only an exception in the D3x where Nikon and Sony uses the same sensor almost at the same time for completely different market segments.

    This has worked well for the 10mpx, 12mpx and 16mpx sensors that Nikon uses. I find it very unlikely that Nikon will leapfrog Sony senselessly at the mpx war. Producing cameras with poor noise performance is Sony’s job, not Nikon’s. I mean just look at the A77, pure madness.

  • DK

    total BS

  • http://javelinstreet.se Thomas Beckmann

    Since we got the Sinar 4″x5″ , I’m just stroke of the richness of details one can se on the velvia-dia positive.
    And we are still in the beginner phase, using a 6X7 cm on 120 film.
    We reshoot these dias as they are but with a pb5 on a carl zeiss 80/2.8 with a rebell 2 (550D canon) in a stand.
    Just think of the quality you get out of 40 shots 18 Mpix from one single dia.
    Schneider Kreutnach has dealy don a great job already in the beginning.
    I do not think any 24x36mm digital could ever take care of the same amount of data compared to our method.

    //Thomas

  • dhuksha

    just wondering what makes this 99%, how credible are digicame-info?

  • Tilden

    Read the post again and you will get your answer.

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