Nikon D850 camera autofocus (AF) coverage

Nikon D850 MultiCAM AF sensor module

Nikon D850 MultiCAM AF sensor module
From Nikon:

"Accurate focusing is crucial to large-pixel-count images. The D850 comes equipped with the same powerful 153-point AF system as the flagship D5 — a technology widely praised by editorial sports photographers. The 153 densely packed focus points (55 selectable) provide over 130% of the D810’s frame coverage, while 99 cross sensors with powerful detection are optimally distributed. The AF system makes it possible to achieve pinpoint focus on a small area such as an athlete’s eye, but is also designed to immediately acquire fast, often random movements and track them tenaciously. The D850 also comes with the same AF lock-on adjustment menu as the D5, helping to focus more accurately on subjects moving toward the camera. Furthermore, the central point functions at -4 EV and all other focus points at -3 EV, thanks to the Multi-CAM 20K autofocus sensor module, which was developed to keep noise to an absolute minimum, allowing for accurate AF in challenging light." (Nikon AF modules reference table can be found here)

Nikon D850 dedicated AF engine chip on board

From Nikon:

"Like the D5, the D850 employs a dedicated AF engine. Working in parallel with the sequence control microcomputer, it achieves simultaneous rangefinding at all 153 focus points, which contributes to fast, accurate focusing. As a result, when shooting an athlete portrait in auto-area AF, for example, it eliminates the need to select focus points each time you change your composition, contributing to a more efficient workflow."

Nikon D850 autofocus performance

From the Nikon D850 review by Richard Peters:

"Just how good the Multi-CAM 20k focusing system from the flagship D5 and D500 is, has already been well documented. For a quick catch up of the essential highlights, it offers 153 autofocus points, with 99 being cross type and has sensitivity down to -3EV for all points but the centre, which is -4EV. What does that mean in practice? Aside from better acquisition when using teleconverters? I was shooting with the D850, 40 minutes after sunset, at 1/30 second, f2.8, ISO 25,600 and I was still just about able to lock focus on my subject. Whilst shooting in almost darkness doesn’t really bode well for the images themselves, not least because subject motion is impossible to avoid, it’s an impressive demonstration. The sensitivity of the system allows for acquisition in very low contrast."

Nikon D850 vs. Canon 5D Mark IV AF coverage comparison:

Nikon D850 autofocus test in near darkness:

Nikon D850 focus peaking:

Nikon D850 focus stacking:

More Nikon D850 test videos (silent live view, electronic VR):

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  • Sandy Bartlett

    You are making it very hard to resist.

    • Allen_Wentz

      True dat.

  • Proto

    Focus stacking is great. Glad i did not buy the macro lens for wedding ring shots. This will do it!

    • Luca Motz

      I think you misunderstand something..Focus stacking doesn’t give you more magnification. So if you need the magnification you still need a macro lens..

      • Proto

        No misunderstanding. I magnify with Tiffen closeup filters. And this focus stacking will take care of the thin DOF occurring at magnification.. Simple and economical.

        • Adnan

          I haven’t seen the result of Tiffen filters but if you want to put a close up filter Canon 500D filter is very good otherwise use Kenko auto focusing tubes ,they do a little hunting but do AF with 105 micro VR or manual focus is quick.

        • Nemmondom Meg

          Use an old 50mm practica lens face to your lens 🙂

  • Tyler

    fml I was just about to head to bed. But now I’m super stoked and awake! I for one, cannot wait to use the focus peaking, for b-roll and such.

  • Richard Haw

    this is a game-changer. the best studio camera available at a realistic price.

    • Umano Teodori

      best 135 camera overall, no otus for sony

  • r2d2

    Wow, this is awesome!!

    There is one more video from Nikon USA found while watching focus peaking vid –

    • will add to the list

  • Exynos

    Slow and awful cdaf

    • HotDuckZ

      I loved teletubby until now…

  • MB

    And some people are still talking about 0.1EV difference in DR …
    For me D850 huge improvements in AF, and Focus Peaking and Stacking alone are worth the upgrade … other people will find 46Mpix, 7-9 FPS, 4K video, in camera 8K timelapse, for Quiet shooting important … but the point is D850 offers so much for everybody IMHO 🙂

    • Ali Moradi

      Is there a source that has actual DR comparisons (not theoretical)?

      • ITN

        Google Bill Claff photographic dynamic range. Preliminary DR information on the D850 is found there (will be updated when more data is available).

      • Adnan

        To a naked eye all good cameras’ pictures at 8×10-12 size prints look the same and on high end calibrated monitors one can rarely see the difference until one is comparing lenses at corners at 100% res.
        It’s mostly the mental satisfaction when one checks technical “scores” 🙂
        Otherwise it is irrelevant if you are shooting film.

      • MB

        There are many sources for what ever you may think of … so please define actual 🙂

  • Emilio Savov

    Still same old retarded placement of 153 AF points in the center of the frame. That’s a usable as the Nikon D40’s 3 point AF … :-/ … can’t believe how cheap all those companies are… I mean you want 3 000 to 7000 $ for a camera, and you’re as cheap as to use one and the same ol’ lame focus point placement! I’m a portrait photographer and sometimes I need my focus to be on the far end of the frame… the eye is in there, the point of interest is in there… if I sell my kidney to buy D850 and I have to compromise and “focus recompose” .. with a 46MP camera …imagine where will I be searching for my focus … on the moon I guess.. :-/ ..
    Sorry, Nikon, it is a great camera, but you guys still miss on some points… from D3 up until now, things have changed so little, that it’s a shame… yeah .. 3 million ISO … awesome :-/ .. oh .. and a tilt screen.. and it’s touch sensitive…… amazing … when will you put a SIM card in it so I can call my mom ? :-/

    • It would help you if you do a little search on why the focus points are in the place they are. Unless you are here to sell sony full sensor AF points……

      • Emilio Savov

        Nope, ain’t gon catch me sell that piece of crap.. overheating and starting as slow as a tired turtle!!!
        Well… I’m sure Nikon ain’t no stupid company and can work on that AF system and improve it… if they want that much money for a camera. I’m sure it ain’t easy, but earning thousands of dollars for a camera ain’t easy too..
        They have found out how to make a touchy-tilty screen right ? 🙂

        • Eric Calabros

          Its like saying I’m spending $24k for Camry 2017, why it has only 5 seats like Camry 1999?

          • Emilio Savov

            Nope, it’s like spending $24k on a Camry 2017 with a brand new 2017 engine, but with a old carburator from Camry 1999 😉 .. ya feel me ? There is a difference 😉

        • Okay. So you have your heart in the right place. All you need to do is learn a bit of physics behind the limitations behind not having the AF points spread as you like. All camera companies have that spread bunched in the centre. In fact D850 is spread quite wider than almost all others.
          As for the price, would you believe it if I told you, it is a very fair price for this camera? If you find it not worth the price, it surely isn’t for you. I you cannot afford it, you have D750/ D810 options available to you.

          • thundrrd

            He has his heart in the right place? Whaaa …

            He doesn’t know what he is talking about and makes snide comments to you saying things like, “Ya feel me.”

            Let it go. Let him be right on this one. It doesn’t matter.

            • Heart thing was about loving nikon. Rest all, it is upto us to teach him. Just a little bit of patience and understanding is all that it takes.

        • Nemmondom Meg

          I don’t get You. Nikon 850 is bad because of recomposing and losing focus on the model. I got that issue. But tell me in what portrait shooting session will the sony overheat? Why You mind the slow starting? The model wont run away if you pay. In my opinion you try to be pretend to be professional by bitching about issues what are not even affecting You.

          • I don’t think he is a pro. If he was, he would know how to work with focus-recompose nor would he moan about the price.

    • PierreLaPierre

      Agree with you 100% that’s why I’m keeping my D40 and holding out for somehting with a real step change in camera IQ.

    • Michiel953

      The technology behind this type of AF is not really your strong point, is it?

      • Emilio Savov

        No 🙂 ..since you think like that … but you can always enlighten me, if it’s your strong point 🙂

        • Michiel953

          I don’t know the details (it’s not my strong point either), but have read many times that, due to angles etc, there is a technical limit to where AF points can be reasonably accurate across the frame. That’s just how it is. Maybe others can help here.

          I understand your point about portraits and do, like you, like to have my subject and therefore focus well off center. I often feel limited by the AF point spread of my D810, which sort of forces composition. I look forward to my D850.

          In an hour I’m having a window lit portrait session with my 810 with 58/1.4G and the Nokton 58/1.4. We’ll see how it goes…

          • Emilio Savov

            Don’t get me wrong, I love my Nikons, and will never change the brand, it is my brand.. love the design, the feel, the fast focus…because other than portraits sometimes I shoot dances, horse show jumping and drifting, so in there with an 10 year old body (D300) I’m sooo happy. As for the portraits, I’m not one of them people who think that for portrait you need an FX camera and f/1.4 lenses, you can nail it with 1.8 on a DX and still make a great photo. I can almost feel how I’m moving to D500, because to me, this is the mother of all cameras :)))
            Wish you luck with your session, and I’m sure it will go great 🙂

            • Michiel953

              Grazie Emilio. My portraits are very close up; appr 60cms with the 58’s, and I use f4.0 to retain some depth of field. Not a big fan of f1.4 either, but it’s good to have it.

            • D500 will surely give you what you want. Edge to edge AF point spread. Which is possible with Dx cameras. And D500 is a great camera if you do not mind crop sensor limitations, which frankly are very few by this time.

            • Emilio Savov

              Actually I can’t think of any limitations of D500..neither ISO nor image quality 🙂 .. to me it’s just the best camera to this day! 🙂

            • I did say how good it is. And the limitations are always apparent when you compare it with something. Fx in this case.

            • Cynog

              I had the D500, and it’s a great camera, but I traded it in for the D850. Why? Because I can use DX mode if I want the AF points to cover the whole frame, and not suffer a penalty in resolution, and I don’t need the 10 fps. But if the D500 meets one’s needs, go for it: it’s half the price of a D850, and a bargain to boot.

            • Ric of The LBC

              DX limitations?

              DX prime lenses. Buzz, Buzz. 🙂

            • Allen_Wentz

              Key is that all FX lenses work perfectly fine on DX.

        • cBBp

          It has to do with the image circle projected by the lens and drop off of the lens. It doesn’t effect DX because it’s easy to stretch a DX lens image circle enough to getAF coverage to the corners not so much for full frame. All lenses would have to be medium format lenses

        • Thom Hogan

          Geometry and physics, basically. The D5/D500/D850 have about as large an off-sensor PD array as you could imagine. Off-sensor PD gives you extremely accurate information about where the focus is located, but because it needs the full width of the aperture and that has to go through a secondary mirror, there are limits as to how big you can make that off-sensor array.

          On-sensor has the opposite problem: you can put sensors across the whole frame if you’d like, but they don’t have a lot of position discrimination due to their small size. That’s why a lot of the mirrorless cameras do a contrast detect step after the PD step.

          • NikonFanboy

            Thom please

            Can you tell me what is the die size of the Expeed 5 processor?

            is it 10nm in size or less then that? Its now ARM based chip isint it?

            • Thom Hogan

              I’m not sure exactly, as Fujitsu went a bit dark on published materials recently. Up to 2015 they were 55nm, after that 28nm. I really doubt they’re at 10nm, and I’d even be a bit surprised if they’d moved to 14nm yet.

              Note that the DL cameras were going to use EXPEED 6a, which seemed to also have been a new version of the Milbeaut processor that’s behind EXPEED. Something happened with that initial chip production, and then later Nikon abandoned the DLs completely.

            • NikonFanboy

              Thanks Thom. Do you reckon the D5s and D500s which is due 2018 Jan will be expeed 6 or expeed 7?

              Would it be power efficient and offers better fps and buffer on the whole compared to expeed 5?

              Just thinking it might.

              Regards nfb

            • Thom Hogan

              I wouldn’t think they’d change EXPEED for an s model.

            • Ivanku

              Didn’t they go Expeed 3 to 4 for the D4 to D4s update? And that brought along the D810 and D750 as well, based on Expeed 4

            • Thom Hogan

              Yes, but if the D850 didn’t need an EXPEED update, I doubt we’ll see one with a D5s.

            • Ivanku

              Thom, I wonder what you know about this… one of the impressive things about the D5/D850 is the battery life, and processing plays into that significantly, right? Given that Canon and Nikon are using mostly same-generation technology and data management, why is there such an enormous differential in the battery life between the companies? Across the model lineup, Nikon’s have 100% greater, or more in some cases, battery life. Does Nikon have unique access to processing techcnology in the industry? Aren’t the Toshiba chips available to pretty much any willing buyer?

    • ITN

      The area covered by cross type points (you know, the ones that work reliably) is massively larger in the D850 than the D3. The D850 focus point coverage is perfectly fine for vertical portraits. If you need a horizontal image where the eyes are at the top of the frame then you may need to compromise either by cropping or recomposing. It’s not so bad. In many cases people want the whole body to be in focus anyway.

    • Shutterbug

      Clearly you do not understand the physics behind a PDAF system. It is actually impossible to move the points out to the edges of the frame unless Nikon dramatically changed the physical construction of their cameras and/or lenses. Then, you go on to compare it to a DX camera’s coverage, which can be 100%, which is apples to oranges. You should educate yourself on the topic.

      Cam20K offers the best coverage and performance of any AF system on the market right now in any DSLR.

    • David Stambaugh

      If you want wall to wall focus points, buy a D500.

    • There are technical issues as to why they can’t put focus points to the edge on slrs. So if you want to shoot slr, it’s likely you will always have this issue.

      Iv never had to worry about focus points near the edge for portraits. Horses for courses I guess.

    • ZoetMB

      I don’t understand what the problem is with recomposing. I find it faster and easier than moving the cursor to a different focus point (although maybe not with the new joystick). Wherever the current focus point is, I place it where I want it (say on someone’s eye who is standing far right in the frame), hit the focus and either hold it down or hit the focus lock, move the camera back to the composition I want and shoot. Hell, if we still had split image focus screens built into the cameras, I’d probably never use AF at all.

      And to say there’s been no improvement in AF is ludicrous. It’s far faster and more accurate than it used to be. Unless you’re using a $3000 body with a kit lens.

      • Adnan

        There is no problem with recomposing at all , I’m sure whoever knows it shoot in that style more often.
        What Emilio Savov was partially complaining is “cramping all the focal points in a tiny area on a full frame 35mm camera”. And this has been the complaint of all PGrs. even when there were just 8 points.
        However in DX mode 5408 x 3600 (nearly 20MPx ) you get a larger area in relatively high res.size from an FX sensor and much wider AF area.
        The D500 and D7200 in crop of DX mode fill the frame 90% with a 15MP size on D7200 and one never misses a BIF shot.

      • ninpou_kobanashi
        • ZoetMB

          In the vertical plane he might have a point. although I’m usually a hell of a lot farther than 4′ from my subject. But in the horizontal plane, the change in distance is far less and it doesn’t make a difference. But I think his math is off anyway unless I’m not remembering my high school geometry. If he’s 4′ from the subject and the distance between the eyes and center of the chest is 1′, the hypotenuse would be 4.12″, not 4.5″. If you’re 20′ from the subject and the distance between the eyes and the chest is 1′, the hypotenuse would be 20.02″. And then you also have to take the aperture and the resulting depth-of-field into account. If you’re shooting wide open, it’s far more of an issue than if you’re shooting at f11 or f16 or smaller.

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            I tend to shoot close to wide open, so it affects me more.

  • דוד בר סלע צלם

    hi. any one know where i can see samples for the video auto focus ? + the auto focus with face recognition ?
    thank you

  • AlexG

    The D850 has some nice additions compared to D810, as it has many missing features that the competitors include since some time now in their products. Focus peaking not working on 4k video, no reliable video autofocus, so actually in 4k you can neither manual focus like the “pros” do it, neither you can rely on the camera’s autofocus to assist you.
    The best part of the D850 for me is that seems to be hope for a good mirrorless camera to come from Nikon sometime soon that will up the video usability. Because as stills camera the Nikon cameras are excellent.

    • António

      Can you please specify the “many missing features” you refer to?

      • AlexG

        Focus peaking in 4K mode.
        Reliable video autofocus.
        Electronic/Hybrid viewfinder.
        Sensor image stabilization.
        Split screen zoom while on vertical or horizontal orientation.

        • António

          Apart from better video autofocus, can you please indicate the DSLR cameras offering focus peaking in 4K mode, hybrid viewfinder or split screen zoom while on vertical or horizontal orientation?

          I don’t refer sensor image stabilization because there are pros and cons when compared to lens stabilization and it’s far from being an advantage for everybody and every kind of photography.

          And please note that we’re talking about competitors among DSLR cameras and mirrorless belong to another category that Nikon may compete with if and when they release the same kind of camera but not now.

          • AlexG

            If people buy mirrorless instead of DSLR, that is a product that D850 is in competition with. Those features you need to add to be “The difference maker” in my opinion.
            Can you indicate where did i write that those features are included in DSLR or mirrorless?
            I could keep listing you 4k 60fps, true 120fps recording but you would probably find something else to differentiate the category of the products. “Semi pro – pro”, “mirrorless -DSLR”, “price difference ” etc etc.
            Nikon made an update of D810, not a groundbreaking product, with a good dosage of Sony’s hype building method.

            • António

              As a matter of fact you didn’t indicate and that’s your mistake as you can’t say that a DSLR is missing many features features that you only can find in mirrorless cameras and saying that “competitors include since some time now in their products”.

              Don’t expect me reacting as you suggest because for me deciding between a DSLR and a mirrorless is a different story and well far away from any “mirrorless-DSLR” wars as a matter of fact I do use both.

              What you consider to a “groundbreaking product” or not is up to you as you’re also entitled to think that a “good dosage” of the merit for what the D850 “updates” D810 belongs to Sony but it doesn’t mean you’re right and in such a case better you don’t spoil your time criticizing this DSLR shortcomings and go right away to Sony’s Shangri-la .

            • AlexG

              I consider that it is abit hyped product. That is the part where i think Nikon copied Sony not in anything inside the camera. Did i hit a sensitive point?
              I consider it not a complete update.
              If something is specific to mirrorless argue that and list it. Don’t try to discard everything that is missing as something that DSLR cameras cannot or do not have.
              Why are you people so sensitive that not everyone finds it super duper camera or worthy of the way it is promoted as?

            • António

              I will not go that path because besides the mirrorless features are still in a changing time, either improving or doing new ones, but the differences are public.

              And no need to use words as “why are you people so…” because each one responds for his own opinions and it’s as strange to act as you suggest as it is to “demote”a product that it is not yet available in the market – so there is no need to consider some with a different opinion as a member of some kind of a flock.

            • AlexG

              Do you have any info that it has Dual Pixel AF?
              Focus peaking in 4K?
              It does not demote a product if i or you or anyone else points out that it missing some features that they wish D850 had.
              Look abit how we communicate with ITN even though we disagree. How nicely he explains what is possible and what not.

            • António

              If you read my first post well you’ll notice that I started with “Apart from better video autofocus” and besides Nikon used dual AF in the N1 V cameras you certainly know that Dual Pixel CMOS AF is a designation registered by Canon.

              About 4K peaking is well known that is not a feature of the camera, but I’m convinced you can’t name any other DSLR offering it at moment.

              The reason I entered the discussion was not because you named some but “many missing features” that you said some competitors are offering in their products for some time now and most of them are only found in mirrorless cameras not in DSLR ones.

              But you’re free to make all the comparisons that please you and I never tried to tell you “what is possible or not” because I’m in the consumer side and what’s important for me is the adequacy of any product I buy to my needs and the intended use, and it’s good you can chat with ITN to fulfill that technical side.

              Stay well

            • AlexG

              Samsung Galaxy S7 and S8 using dual pixel af so i did not think it is something locked with a patent to Canon.
              Nikon themselves have filled patent for BSI CMOS Sensor with Dual Pixel AF, since quite some time now.
              So yes, i would have wished they had it in D850 or atleast any other decent video AF method.

              Good for you that D850 satisfies your needs and wishes, allow me to not be since it misses some features that i think it should have.

              Enjoy your new camera while i enjoy my old D810 and waiting for a worthy upgrade!

            • António

              Good for you that you enjoy your D810 as it is an excellent camera that still has a lot to give and there is nothing wrong not going after all the “upgrades” introduced by the manufacturers, it’s all a matter of cost/benefit evaluation in function of real needs not just GAS fever.

              Concerning “my new camera” is not that simple as I am not the typical early adopter preferring to see how the camera behaves in real life both in terms of IQ, performance and reliability and meanwhile who knows if Nikon surprises us with another offer that changes the terms of the decision equation.

            • Sandy Bartlett

              There is one mirrorless camera that even comes close to the 850. Only one. And it is an ergonomic mess.

            • AlexG

              Ok you got me intrigued…which do you mean? (Answer at you own risk, i cannot protect you from the trolls)

            • ITN

              From a still photographer’s point of view, it can be seen to replace all of the following: D5, D810, D750, and D500 in one camera. (Few applications really need 12fps). That’s why it is hyped: it offers more than people expected. What it doesn’t replace is video cameras with autofocus. Engineering often involves compromises. You cannot expect one product to be better at everything than all other products in the market – every company considers the needs of their customers and tries to produce the best product for them. Not every customer’s needs are the same, which is why different products have different emphasis.

            • AlexG

              Even from still photographer point of view, it is not a worthy upgrade to lets say D810. What will it offer to a landscape photographer who owns D810 or can grab it now for almost half price of that of D850?
              As for the rest, i still think the D5 is not replaced from D850, not for those who need as high fps as possible or those who want smaller files, less megapixel, not atleast untill we know the quality of medium and small Raw from the D850.
              D500 can do the 10 fps with its normal battery, no need for more expensive batteries and chargers or am i wrong?

            • ITN

              D850 advantages for landscape: increased resolution, fully electronic shutter may allow more detailed images with long lenses in some circumstances (rear curtain still causes some blur with the D810’s EFCS at 500mm), higher resolution LCD makes focusing and checking the image details easier, tilting monitor makes it easier to make shots where the camera is pointing directly upwards (e.g. astro, some canyon shots, low angle shots), automatic focus bracketing allows easier and faster to capture series of shots for focus stacking, removal of pop up flash means tilt shift wide angles do not bump into it, improved DR at ISO 400 and above can be useful when there is some wind and vegetation and water is not still, also for some supertele and macro shots high iso can be needed, increased fps rate may allow faster exposure bracketing (if these features can be combined), the split screen zoomed in display may also be improved, facilitating tilt use. Also potentially the focus peaking could help adjust focus and tilt with tilt shift lenses. Better weather sealing thanks to removal of pop up flash. At least nominally better battery life can be helpful in winter shoots, though this has to be independently tested. Still, the D810 is perfectly fine for landscape use. It is not necessary for everyone to upgrade. Most benefits are for users who use autofocus, flash, and shoot action. Most photographers I know shoot a variety of subjects so chances are that they would experience benefits from the D850.

              True, D500 shoots 10fps without vertical grip but I think many action shooters prefer a vertical grip anyway for better balance with large lenses and more comfortable vertical shooting. 12 fps I find rarely needed; mostly 8fps does the trick for me. At 12fps the viewfinder experience and AF start showing imperfections (I think these ultra high frame rates are not that generally needed) and too many almost identical frames are obtained. I think for most people 9 vs. 12 fps is inconsequential. You can get reduced resolution raw files from the D850 if this is an issue. But if the action is too far the D5 user can’t just crop like the user of a D850 can. For most users the D850 can replace all these cameras and do some things that they can not.

            • AlexG

              I will answer you then as you did before to me. Get an external monitor or even a smartphone app and any smartphone from the last 3 years and you have most of those features with any camera. Higher resolution screen for accurate focusing, canyon, astro etc etc.
              For focus peaking i refrain forming an opinion until we see how accurate is really in D850.
              Higher resolution is minimal advantage compared to 36MP for me to worth the jump.
              9fps to 12fps is a 33% increase, not so easy to discard.
              You seem convinced that M and S RAW have a real advantage of space saving while keeping dr, noise etc characteristics unaltered compared to the full resolution RAW files.
              Do you have a sample I could check myself or do you just hope? Because judging from the previous SRaw efforts in my D810, i would say it’s just marketing material, not something to improve my workflow.
              Usually people who need action photos do not want 45MP but more chances to capture the moment, 12 wins towards 9.

            • ITN

              The wifi/bluetooth control in Nikons is pretty primitive unless one goes for the professional wifi modules. I guess camranger could be used to make a mobile phone a monitor but I think it is easier to just tilt the LCD and use the touch screen and camera controls without needing additional devices. I found it a useful feature on the D750 though there was no touch functionality. Camranger app on a smartphone results in a delayed live view which is a bit annoying IMO. I don’t think any cheap wifi solution is any better.

              I do believe eventually Nikon gets the smaller raw file formats right. If one is using a prime lens to shoot action, the extra pixels are very useful. With 20MP you can crop a bit but with larger crops the damage to image quality is greater than when cropping from 45MP. I believe most people always go for the best image quality they can get and that means more pixels. Especially bird photographers will find the flexibility in composing after the shot has been captured useful. If the AF can handle the 45MP this will be a very popular action camera. No one wants to put on a TC if they can get a better result by cropping a higher pixel count image and retain wide aperture.The camera has a large enough buffer and supports fast memory cards.

              Ok, for some 12 fps may be useful, for me 8fps is sufficient and 12 is a waste of space and editing time. Furthermore the focus can keep up better at 8fps than at 12fps.

              Especially for subjects approaching from a distance, the extra resolution allows a prime lens user to capture shots at a range and a zoom user can increase their range. This saves money that would otherwise need to be spent on a lens like the Canon 200-400 Extender or its Nikon equivalent rumored to come out next year.

              Anyway I’m not saying the D850 is the perfect camera for everyone but it will be for a lot of people. Especially those who want the best image quality with ability to shoot fast.

            • AlexG

              I respect your opinions and thank you for your explanationions. But you do twist things around depending on what you want to prove. If i need focus peaking, i can get an external monitor you suggested. Later it is more convenient to use the included monitor to get low angle views than getting an external monitor or tablet or smartphone….

              Anyway, i see you are convinced that it is a worthy upgrade for your current cameras and for some people.
              I am convinced that it is not for me a worthy upgrade and i could keep telling you how i think many people will be better spending their hard earned money in other tools, tech toys that would be more useful or more fun, than selling their D810 or D500 or even D750 to get what Nikon trying to pass as all in one camera.

            • How old is your D810?

            • AlexG

              Around 2 years i think.

            • AlexG

              Bad wifi/bluetooth? …who needs it in 2017, right?

            • ITN

              I don’t need it personally. I take time to edit my shots on a computer. If I want wireless control I can get a Camranger that will work on any Nikon. However, I just don’t have any need for it.

            • ITN

              The medium raw is 25.6 MP and small raw 11.4MP should be suitable for those who don’t want full file size.

            • AlexG

              How do you trust that the file size of the M and S Raw are less MB than the full MP Raw? Experience until now suggests otherwise.

            • ITN

              Nikon can make first iteration which makes no sense, but then they make the next, and the next, until finally they have a sensible implementation. D5 small raw 9MB, medium 13MB, full 23MB.

            • And it has been noted that in D850 , mRAW and sRAW are improved. In what way I don’t know but I am waiting to find out.

            • AlexG

              I hope so. For sure you know D810 has also a small Raw that sucks.

            • Think about this. Was D810 a worthy upgrade to D800? Some would say no and some would say yes. To a specsheet reader, both the cameras would look alike but if you used D810, you would realize that D810 has been significantly improved over D800. It is not always apparent how much the improvements are unless you use the equipment. Certainly you cannot see it by just reading the specs or even by reading or examining the posted comparisons.

            • AlexG

              As it is not apparent how much usability and how many more great photos will the new features bring you until you put them to the test, even though they look great on paper or videos from the company’s “ambassadors”. Then you realise the excitement and the hype are gone and what is left is a hole in your pocket with nothing else. Different people, different needs and wishes. The beauty of choise!

            • My words…. twisted and used so very pessimistically. I feel sad for you. Of course, you have a choice , a choice of not taking a risk. Be happy and at peace.

            • AlexG

              If there is something to feel sad about is about people who will buy a product because of the hype while they do not need it or while they could spend their money in something that will add value to their ability to take great photos, not for me. Be happy with D850 and hope you get better photos or atleast easier with it.

            • You should give some credít to people who can shell out 3300 for some braíns and rational thínking about what they want or not. After all they have the brains to earn ít. As for you, you clearly have an optíon of buyíng ít after you are satísfíed of it being good enough or not buyíng ít at all. And who are we to decíde íf people need something or not or what they should spend theír money on?

            • AlexG

              Now, read everything you wrote, everything that all wrote to me and ask that last question to the correct people including yourself as i am not the one here trying to convince others that my new toy is the greatest, the flawless, the whatever you guys want it to be, neither tried to convince anyone of the opposite.
              I posted about the features i would have wished for, so i can take images or videos easier the way that i use my cameras.

              I do not give credit for brains to people for having 3.3k to spend in a camera. I do not give people credit for brains according to their bank account either, good to know you do.
              I give credit for brains for other reasons which would sound probably weird to you since you connecting brains with dollars. As for forums liks this, i give brain credit to people who can enter a discussion with open mind, ready to support with facts and real information their points, who do not try to insult others just for having different views, needs, opinions.

              This is my last reply to you or others who have this kind of behaviour. You bought a nice camera which i will not accept as “difference maker”. Live with it and move on.

            • As you have decided to move on, please do. And try not to twíst the words of other people. Líke you díd also here. Be at peace.

            • AlexG

              My very first post was about how D850 is missing some features that would have made it a worthy upgrade and a “difference maker” for me. Since then i got people borderline insulting me because i do not want to accept it as the perfect camera. Something is wrong if people spent 3.3k usd for a camera they have not tested and ruins it for them if not all of us who did not buy it, do not want to accept it as perfect or worthy of our money….just saying…..

            • Ít wasn’t about your choíce. Ít was because you were comparíng the features of mírrorless wíth ít.

            • AlexG

              To tell you the honest truth, i am glad that there are people who are so excited and will buy D850. It might give time to Nikon to develop the camera i hope they will.

            • Keep something for D860! 🙂

            • AlexG

              Trying to keep GAS in control is not easy!
              I am keeping for the Nikon FF mirrorless if it is worthy as i hope. I do not believe there will be a D860 or any other successor to D850. People seem to have got everything they wished or it is technically possible if you read abit around this forum!

            • It is never enough and there is always something more that can be improved.

            • AlexG

              Careful what you write..according to many who ordered D850 this is borderline hubris….there is nothing to be improved!

        • ITN

          Which company is offering split screen zoom in both directions? I thought only Nikon have this feature of allowing zooming in two locations at once.

          • AlexG

            My point is that is not a ground breaking camera for me, not a complete package update of D810. What is your point?

            • ITN

              First, I don’t know how the split screen zoom is implemented in the D850; it could be two axis. You said that competitors are offering such a feature but none of them are, as far as I know. That’s my point.

              Multi-CAM 20k alone, without any of the other improvements, is enough for me to upgrade. Based on my experience with other Multi-CAM 20k cameras I would expect 90% fewer focus rejects compared to D810. I think Nikon did far more than they needed to, in this camera. 80% increase in fps, 3 times faster card writes, improved viewfinder, radio flash remote control, etc.

              If you do video, and need AF, then this is not the camera for it. Nikon’s focus is on still photography with video offered as an additional feature. If you need a more video centric implementation then perhaps a C200 or FS7 is for you. No single camera offers the best video and the best still capability. If you use an external recorder or screen then the D850 should allow easy enough manual focusing for video.

              As for sensor based image stabilization, Nikon offers lens based stabilization. Adding sensor based stabilization would not work well with an optical viewfinder since that wouldn’t show a stabilized image. Also the patents for sensor based stabilization belong to other companies so if Nikon were to use this technology they’d have to pay license fees and the camera would be more expensive.

            • AlexG

              That is exactly my point. It is an excellent camera for some people. Not for all. It is not without flaws or missing features. It is an amazing stills camera with many missing video features.

              Not all my Nikkors have VR so i would wish it could be done by stibilizing the sensor. Thank you for the explanation of why it is not included this feature.

            • Vince Vinnyp

              To put it in perspective though there are more VR lenses for Nikon than there are lenses for any manufacturer with sensor stabilisation.

            • AlexG

              How many wide aperture primes have VR?

            • Vince Vinnyp

              35 1.8 45 1.8 85 1.8 200 F2

            • AlexG

              I did not know of such Nikkor lenses. Could you please share some links? I cannot find such information other than of the 5.7k usd 200 f/2 Nikkor.

            • Vince Vinnyp

              The 35 45 and 85 are by Tamron.

            • AlexG

              So instead of hoping for sensor stabilization to have been included in a 2017 camera, i should buy an almost 6k usd 200mm f/2 and 3 Tamron’s while i am at it and praise the D850 as the perfect, game changer, difference maker camera….ok 🙂

            • Allen_Wentz

              Actually, the D5/D500/D850 series of bodies _are_ “game changer, difference maker camera,” but one needs to work at learning the synergistic new AF/XQD/buffer/joystick capabilities for a few weeks to realize it.

            • AlexG

              Not convinced for D850, sorry.

            • Vince Vinnyp

              Well you hoped for Sensor stabilisation. Others wanted other things it delivered. You can always buy the camera with IBIS that also gives 46mp and a 9FPS mechanical shutter. If it was possible without a compromise and did as well as lens VR do you not think Nikon and Canon would have just added it? How is the 200mm f2 lens for that and are the fast primes cheaper? The 105 1.4 for example?

            • AlexG

              Does it bother you if i do not buy the D850 for reasons you do not understand?
              Do you think that it is urban legend that companies keep features just to add them in the next “upgraded” camera?
              Do you use irony as form of communication when people do not agree with you about the greatness of a camera?

            • Vince Vinnyp

              It doesn’t worry me at all. I don’t disagree that IBIS would be a good thing if it could be added without any penalty but it can’t have. For example without an EVF it would mean I can’t frame my shots precisely, and an EVF would mean that the AF would probably be behind. I have yet to see anyone who has shot with the D850 say it is not a worthy camera, now I have shot with one I feel the same. If you having not used one are happy to rule it out then why would it worry me.

            • AlexG

              “Worthy” is very general term. What is worthy for you to pay 3.3k usd might not be for me. What is worthy upgrade to D810 might not be for me. What is worthy upgrade to D500 might not be for me or others. You get the point.
              Now, because you have not seen anyone who has shot with D850 say it is not a worthy camera, does everyone else have to believe them and be convinced that he has to buy it too?

              “probably” is not proving a point for me so i can hope for a hybrid/electronic view finder with great AF before i decide to spend my money for a new camera. (I won’t tell you that it already has been done in a mirrorless camera, you will probably call me that brand’s fanboy and will lead in a more lengthy discussion with you denying the quality of another af system as you seem hard pressed your new D850 is better in everything than every other camera.In the end you will tell me another “probably cannot be done” with that amount of MP or to go shoot with the other camera of 46MP with the EVF and great AF. There i saved you time from typing, you are wellcome.)
              Yes, i rule it out as a “difference maker” because for me will not make a difference “worthy” of the purchase.

              I honestly hope Nikon threw what they had as feature in the D850 and to be a great selling camera so they will have the time to come with the full frame mirrorless which will just add functionality to what is missing from the D850.

              I find more healthy behaviour patern on someone who rules out buying a camera he has not tried but specs do not seem “worthy” to him, than the guy who tried it or not and he is trying to convince everyone that his soon to come camera is the greatest of all times, makers, features etc etc.and worthy upgrade for everyone.

        • ITN

          If you want an electronic viewfinder you can add an external one (Zacuto makes those) or you can get a mirrorless camera. DSLRs are all about the optical viewfinder.

    • ITN

      The “pros” would use an external monitor which offers focus peaking, zebras etc. The back LCD is small anyway.

      • AlexG

        Then why bother having any kind of AF or monitor? We could skip them all, save money, weight etc etc. Thanks for letting us know how “pros” are doing it.

        • ITN

          The AF and optical viewfinder of this camera are excellent for still photography. The LCD offered is practical for changing settings, reviewing images and focus. The LVAF works fine for static subjects. For moving subjects in still photography you’d use the optical viewfinder and autofocus which are class-leading.

          For video, AF does not work well because it tends to wiggle and change all the time a bit, making for an unpleasant viewing experience. This is why films are typically made using manual focus and external monitors. If you look at making-of videos of major films you can see that they are focusing manually and use external monitors for most tasks.

          If Nikon were to offer state-of-the-art video AF such as Canon’s dual pixel AF, the image quality and fps rate would likely be compromised since they would need a 90MP sensor which then results in slower reads of the sensor and more need to process data. This is probably why Canon’s 5DIV crops the 4K because they don’t have enough processing power to resample 60MP into 8MP all the while processing the dual pixel data for continuous AF. Sony offers full frame 4K but their video AF is not reported to be quite as smooth as Canon’s and there are reports of overheating.

          About 10% of DSLR users have an important focus in video. Nikon may not think going for a compromise in still capability to gain better video AF is in the best interests of the 90% who buy the camera for still photography.

          • AlexG

            Thank you for your explanation although it is quite disappointing for me if it is exactly like this. Does it mean i cannot dream of the top Nikon stills AF through viewfinder, image quality and good video AF in one camera, whatever kind of camera it is?

  • Bart Ney

    What about phase detection AF, Nikon???????????

    • RC Jenkins

      How do you read an article that’s 90% about Nikon’s phase detection AF and then ask that???????????

      • Michiel953


    • ITN

      The D850 has the best phase detect AF at least for fast, erratically moving subjects (Multi-CAM 20k from the D5).

  • NikonFanboy

    Admin thanks for all the updates…Love them all…

    Can anybody tell me what is the die size of the Expeed 5 processor?

    is it 10nm in size or less then that? Its now ARM based chip isint it?

  • Naacryl

    Cool, but it’s not like DSLR have ever had issues with focusing within the viewfinder. This just focuses as well as all the cameras before it.

  • Dino Brusco

    Wonderful !
    Now let’s hope no early issues flaw this otherwise awesome camera !

  • doge

    The new touch screen interface seems pretty nice.

  • Confirmation just now from Wex that I will receive my D850 on the 8th!! 🙂

    • A. F.O.

      🙂 lucky one!

      • Yup, trying to be adult about it but it’s tricky

    • Dave

      Niiiice. Out of curiosity are you NPS?

      • Nope. I have the lens range and second body etc that qualifies you for some status i can’t remember but that wasn’t mentioned and not sure it makes any difference.

        • Dave

          oh happy day you got my hopes up then, I’m in same boat, have the lens range and 2nd body but never signed up for NPS, so theres a chance I’ll be in first batch too!

    • Michiel953

      I’m expecting/hoping to pick up mine on the 8th as well (no NPS here)!

      Any news on LR support?

      • LR and Photoshop raw support is always a problem 🙁

    • Connor

      Still trying to beat an answer out of Jessops about if I will get mine on the 8th i’m 6 in the pre-order although knowing my luck they will only get 5 in haha

      • That sounds favorable. I was pretty pessimistic after calling Wex yesterday and getting no details at all. Not even where i was in the queue and then a nice email earlier today.

        • Connor

          Lucky you haha. I’ve got to wait until Monday to find out if I’ve snagged on in the first shipping wave, if not i’ll wait for grey market

    • Nice, so they now know how many they will be getting?

      • Either that or I am higher in the queue than i thought. I ordered the second it went live on their web site.

        • thanks and enjoy

          • Thanks to you. The whole build-up from your info made it an easy decision and fun anticipation.

            • thanks for being a reader

            • Michiel953

              I second that (and handling the thing). Hope to pick up mine on the 8th.

    • Proto

      please post low ISO DR samples and comparisons : )

      • Not sure I an a good one for testing, plus from everything we’ve seen and heard it’s going to be difficult to see that the D850 is a lot better than the D810 but that is no problem. The D810 is brilliant in that when I cock up an exposure it’s still rescuable in a way I never had before and being a studio photographer most of the time I am very much in control of my lighting conditions anyway.

  • Adnan

    If they had focus stacking in camera processing into JPG that would be great. Otherwise the procedure looks the same if one has to use 3rd party software.
    i do hope it crosses 100 mark on DXO (though not relevant) but looking at D810 vs D850 high ISO performance it is surely sharp n much cleaner maybe due to higher MPx. but only if one is printing more than 6 feet.

    • ToastyFlake

      D850 might have to have cooling fans for the processing power to do that.

      • Adnan

        Not necessarily, not all pictures taken will exceed 221 at this much high res. 🙂
        For F8 20 exposures are enough and for a flower sometimes just 10 and for extreme closeup of tiny insects 30-50 shots are enough as one runs short of space for focal points 🙂 just shoot with the most sharpest aperture like mostly 5.6 is very sharp on nearly every lens and F8-F11 are perfect for landscape shots so from one corner to other to get those spots sharp one can focus on extreme corners to overcome corner weakness of cheap lenses though some high end lenses have this fault too.
        So, this feature is very good to get ultra sharp pictures.
        For portraits to get more in focus with no compromise on bokeh take 3-4 shots on eyes n nose at F1.4 and you’ve got a great portrait (unless the subject doesn’t move ) 🙂

  • saywhatuwill

    Could I unplug the multi-cam sensor from my D810 and plug that D850 baby in its place?

    For all you people with no sense of humor, that was a joke! I know it won’t work. LOL

  • saywhatuwill

    Watching the video I sure do like that focus peaking. That’s pretty awesome.

  • Wish Nikon would program in the ability to do DNG.

    • Or some separate DNG converter software. I bought a Sony RX1R2 a while back and that came with DNG conversion program and i was away from day one.

    • Allen_Wentz

      That makes no sense. Why would Nikon compromise its proprietary RAW files just to build up Adobe’s substandard compromise DNG wannabe standard?

      • Cynog

        My Pentax cameras offer both DNG and propriety RAW files (I also shoot Nikon). I’d be grateful if you could explain how DNG files are compromised (this is a genuine query, not a troll).

        • DNG files lose some of the shooting exif and some embedded data in conversion which is retained(although not used) if you do not convert NEF files.

      • Remember nikon discontinued capture NX2 and in the same breath gave away adobe elements software with their cameras?

  • Nemmondom Meg

    1 thing (among million others) is not clear for me. The focus stacking, the camera helps to create the pictures, but it does the focus stacking inside or it has to be done outside of the camera. If internally than it converts all the pics to jpg and focusstacking them, or it does it in somekind of raw or dng, so the focus stacked picture can be edited well after the process?

    • disqus_hlLLDdz9K1

      post-proc is needed.

  • Wedding_Shooter

    I am totally stoked about this camera. The focus system is a big thing that will make an actual difference in my day to day shooting, it’ll be accurate, fast and track faces so less fiddling about with AF boxes etc and this will allow me to concentrate on framing. People are saying this isn’t revolutionary. But a focus system that is clairvoyant for me is, because it’s a distraction. I spend a good part of a wedding day moving boxes over faces and thinking about contrasty areas to pick up focus. Now I just might not have to do that. For me that is big, and the only reason I’m adding this along side my D810. Oh…and that flip screen.

  • don’t switch to Sony 🙂

    • Never, the deal was sealed with the 8k time-lapse feature – I don’t like carrying a bunch of sliders and extra doodads around the world for my timelapses, and this cuts down on my hard drive and card needs as well – no more filling up cards with full raws for a 4k pan and scan lapse. Was laborious.

  • DEvAsTATORsx

    There are technical issues as to why they can’t put focus points to the edge on slrs. So if you want to shoot slr, it’s likely you will always have this issue.Iv never had to worry about focus points near the edge for portraits. Horses for courses I guess.

    • …Which is why the D500 is such a freaking awesome camera. Cropped sensor = focus points EVERYWHERE.

      The D300 was absolutely fantastic in this regard, and I remember what a frustration it was to upgrade to the D700. I actually continued to use my D300 for action sports and stuff, or any time I could keep my ISO down. When I got my hands on the D500 it was an immediate dose of nostalgia for the D300.

      Of course you can just shoot the D850 in DX mode, but in my experience it’s actually quite annoying to have to frame your shots within that DX box. 1.2x is a nice compromise though, and usually allows for your AF points to get out to the rule-of-thirds box area just fine.

      Personally, if I was a serious sports shooter I’d just get a D500 and save the extra money for a lens or other accessory. The D850 is first and foremost a landscape and editorial beast, not an action camera. It’s a better action camera than the D800 and D810 ever were, but it’s still not able to fully match the speed and depth of the D500.

      • Mark Heseltine

        Astro, I appreciate this is a D850 story, but would you fill out what you mean about your experience with the D700 coming from the D300 and what you see going to the D500?

        Why doesn’t the D850 in FX mode work in the way you experienced with the D300 and D500?

        I went, essentially, from the FM to the D700. The FM was fast in focus (because I did the focus) and simple – but I find the D700 focusing a bit slow or inaccurate (that may be my bad habits or lack of skill). The FM was good in winter because it did not need a battery but the D700 was better protected for drops so no dings.

        I was hoping that the next Nikon camera would have been the DF2 rather than the D850, even if would suffer dings. The focusing would have been faster; that was the key (and the added few mgpixal).

        It is too late to go back to the FM even though it is so robust and quick. It was film and the world has moved on. Sigh.

        For me, the D500 is not good for wide angle (my 17-35 would lose its benefits). To me, the D850 creates very large files (I am happy at c. 18 – 24 megs). The D850, you say, is no match for the speed and depth of the D500. What do you mean; can you explain?

        Many thanks.

        • Allen_Wentz

          The cost of grip and battery on D850 means D500 costs half as much and is still 1 fps faster, and lighter. Ultra-wide angle is doable but challenging on DX (I use 10.5mm fish + 12-24mm), but for tele DX rocks, adding 1.5x FOV to one’s expensive tele glass.

        • Firstly, the DX viewfinder is magnified much more than the FX viewfinder, so they’re almost the same size if you hold them both up to your eyes at the same time. There’s still a difference, but the DX viewfinders are impressively big these days. And when you crop an FX viewfinder into DX mode, *most* Nikon cameras just put lines for a crop box in the viewfinder, which makes the area you’re looking at smaller, plus it also makes it a bit harder to not accidentally chop off the top of someone’s head when shooting run-and-gun candid shots, because you gotta be careful how you place the box around your subject. Apparently the D850 has more than just a box line, it fully greys out the crop area, but that’s still not as good as just having a big, “full-viewfinder” focusing screen to look at.

          Secondly, the D850 just doesn’t have the same FPS and buffer depth as the D500 does. It’s only a slight difference, but then again if you’re really serious about action sports, even a small difference can be important. Actually the D850 *might* do a little better than the D500, buffer-wise, if the D850 is being shot in DX mode and using 12-bit lossy compression, I’m not sure. But to be fair, both are downright impressive if they can reach ~200 shot when shooting 14-bit. I always shoot action sports in 12-bit compressed NEF anyways, so that’s basically an unlimited buffer for me, I’d definitely have no buffer problems at all if I was ever shooting to just the XQD card.

          For wide angle, just trade your 17-35 for something like the Tokina 11-20 2.8 or similar, and you’ll be fine. Heck, if you’re referring to the older Nikon 17-35 f/2.8 AFS, then the Tokina will actually be SHARPER on the D500 than the Nikon on the D850, by a long shot!

      • Of course you can just shoot the D850 in DX mode, but in my experience it’s actually quite annoying to have to frame your shots within that DX box
        Even I was worried about this but Nikon has made some very welcome changes in this area. The crop rectangle is quite properly done with good shading of outer area and unlike earlier cameras, the shading of rectangles can be used with illuminated focus points. Good enough for me.

        • AlexG

          The D500 will still have big advantage since you will have higher magnification of your subject.

          • T N Args

            Which is no advantage at all. Unless you are using your camera instead of binoculars.

            • AlexG

              If you understand that the optical viewfinder in the D850 will just show you the DX area surrounded by a grey frame and it is not physically magnified then your comment is totally irrelevant.

              Good luck focusing on the eye of a bird in flight or of an athlete when all you see through D850 is a tiny image. The D500 will give you the full view.

            • T N Args

              “the full view”….ironically meaning a lesser view….. with the moving object moving 50% faster across it and hence no advantage at all. Besides, isn’t *the camera* supposed to be doing the focusing with these fancy AF systems? So I don’t need any luck at all — especially when it is *the same* AF system.

            • JXVo

              Clearly you’ve never shot a DX camera side by side with a FX camera set to DX mode. There are pros and cons to each. The image of the subject will appear much larger to your eye in the DX viewfinder and this makes it easier to place focus points precisely and compose. DX cameras of 20 MP or 24 MP will put more pixels on the target than FX cameras (even D850). The wider FX field of view (assuming the same lens) makes it easier to acquire focus and work with fast moving subjects with long lenses.

              Personally I find no advantage to using DX crop mode in a FX viewfinder. Rather shoot the full frame. It gives you more latitude to crop and adjust composition in post processing.

        • Oh, FINALLY, they’ve brought back the DX crop mode “grey-out” that they originally had in the D2Xs! It’s about damn time… That’ll make it a whole lot easier to frame shots in DX mode on an FX viewfinder, however it still means that the image itself will be much smaller. In other words, due to the different VF magnifications of the D500 versus the D850 viewfinders, the D500 viewfinder (focus screen) is going to be bigger than the D850’s DX mode “cut-out box”…

    • lol 🙂

    • Nika

      Sensophone – Music of Nikon

  • Coffee

    I hate to say this, but the auto focus on the D850 is overkill for me since I usually use single point and usually don’t shoot people, but nature. So paying extra for the top of the line AF is kinda a downer.

    The overall camera is expensive for what I want to do, and I am really getting ticked that the D750 had 3 recalls, because I would consider it for FX camera to go with my DX.

    Now the focus peaking is something I have been wanting for a while,
    especially since voigtlander lenses are all manual. That feature is
    something I would pay for. Just hope it works properly. Why this feature was not added to the D500, I will never understand.

    Still going to wait for next year before doing anything else, but I am looking forward to user reviews over the next 3-4 months.

    • T N Args

      Why on earth would you care what the D500 has? If the AF unit is so much overkill for your needs, you clearly don’t need a D500.

  • Matti6950 .

    I’m curious if there will be another: D8xx is not as good as Dx focussing discussion soon. D800 was worse then D3S according to most people (even if it had same autofocus module). D810 worse then D5. D500 (but only very slightly) worse then D5, and still insanely good. Question is where lies D850? I hope not 4x the difference D5 vs d500 have now. In fact from what I recall, higher pixels means MORE processing required to focus not equal. (Nikon said so in an interview). That means with same autofocus, D850 would lag behind, cause more pixels. We’ll see. I’m not trying to be pessimistic, but I wanna know if this part is true or not fast. Because for me biggest improvement d800/d810 could get is AF. If truly as good as d500 magnificent, if it lags a bit behind, then ‘ok’ but not amazing.

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