Nikon KeyMission cameras are now shipping in the US, currently in stock

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The Nikon KeyMission cameras are now shipping in the US and currently in stock at:

In Europe the three models are still listed as pre-order only: Amazon UK, Amazon Germany.

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  • A reader reported issues connecting KM to the iPhone 7 – has anyone experienced any issues with KM?
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    • AYWY

      Oh… snap.
      (Pun intended 😛 )

      Waiting for 1st reviews. 🙂

      • This could be an isolated case, but I can see how Nikon did not test KM on the new iPhone 7.

        • manattan

          would not be surprising…. waiting for the statement that Nikon is “studying” the potential of connectivity to the iPhone7. On the flip side, most of the action and adventure users likely prefer the Galaxy Note 7 for greater excitement

          • nwcs

            Just like the NR tagline: where there’s smoke there’s fire…

            • Eric Calabros

              Nikon trained us to never shoot the messenger, even isolated one.

          • Richard Hart

            apple are hugely anti-vr! With every new release they stop things working. Like you wouldn’t believe. They spend more effort building the spaceship than having their software ready. you used to want a mac for the apple software. apple just suck right now!

        • Matt

          It apparently uses snapbridge which.. ugh. At least on the D500 you can basically ignore it, on the 360 I think it’s required! Oh no, they’re screwed..

          • I think KM uses a different version of SnapBridge.

            • Matt

              Sure, but it looks like a copy and paste job to be honest..

        • Richard Hart

          i can’t get it to connect to an ipad3 running ios9 or an iPhone 6s+ running the latest iOS and it isn’t recognized with the software when plugged in to a mac either… They all show it for a few seconds (not the mac) then opens an accessory tab to select the camera, then says it can’t pair.

    • DLynch

      Has any of these even been sold yet?

      • Thom Hogan

        Yes. And I’m not impressed with mine. Indeed, I think things are worse than I expected in my initial examination.

        • Oh boy, this is no good. I got several reports already on issues with the KM.

          • Thom Hogan

            Yeah, among other things, my 360 came with the wrong lens protectors (they were for a 170). The out of box experience is not good. The use experience isn’t much better. The accessories are a mostly a joke. Gee, and I haven’t even gotten to any real evaluation of image quality yet and I’m feeling underwhelmed.

            • I cannot believe that they screw up this one as well.

            • Allan

              This is Nikon’s pattern in the last several years. It’s important to look at situations realistically, and not hopefully. A successful launch of KM would have been out of character for Nikon. This is the new (for years, now) reality.

            • I thought they realized their problems and worked on them…

            • Thom Hogan

              Nikon’s pattern after the D3 generation has been: (a) keep the high end iterating; (b) spaghetti for more new customers by trying anything that seems like it might stick to the wall.

              (a) is what they’re known for. (b) is killing their brand reputation.

            • Otis Criblecoblis

              It’s really distressing to see such a storied and illustrious camera tech company going straight down the toilet.

            • Otis Criblecoblis

              Nikon’s so depressing right now. After this very underwhelming piece of kit it seems like Nikon’s long and illustrious reputation is shrinking by the day like a deflating balloon.

            • whisky

              is it too early to discuss whopping discounts by “Black Friday”? 🙂

            • Thom Hogan

              No, but I’m tempted to say that “at no discount level would I buy them.” Certainly true of the 80.

    • hje

      You don’t need the app “Snapbridge”, you need “Snapbridge 360/170”. It is able to make video basic editing. With keymission 360 content you can choose “where to look” in the app.
      Didn’t test it with the iPhone 7,only with Android 7.

    • Richard Hart

      I read a few reviews and it looks pretty consistent. ios10 very buggy and is the issue, not the other way.. Did i read on here there is a key mission firmware update? perhaps that fixes it?

    • geofflivingston

      I am having major issues with playing back the image on my 170. It locks the OS, and freezes the camera. The only way to get it out of the lock is to open the battery door, remove the battery, and place it back in. It is a major pain in the ass. Otherwise it’s as cool as billed, but this is certainly Very Annoying.

  • Allan

    Maybe KeyMission will be wildly successful and Nikon will use the profits to improve real cameras. 🙂

    • Matt

      not likely. The 360 is currently getting dumped on hard in the amazon reviews.

      • Spy Black

        How does that happen when no one has one yet?

        • they are shipping in the US already and few readers got theirs already

          • Richard Hart

            b&h are seriously taking their time with shipping. estimated 1 week!

          • Thom Hogan

            Yes, I have mine. Came with the wrong two lens protectors in the box. Apparently the Indonesian plant can’t tell small flat protectors from large curved ones.

            Doesn’t connect with iPhone 7.

            Stupefying interface for newcomers.

            Free accessories kit is basically a set of stuff that you can pick up from Amazon for US$40 on a bad day.

      • ITN

        Many of the reviews seem to discuss not being able to connect with specific phones and people not figuring out how to post videos online. I suspect these customers assumed this was a camera where you’d edit and post the videos using the phone app. I think the videos Nikon posted online were edited using a computer.

        • Spy Black

          There appears to be some comments on poor image quality as well. If true I’m surprised Nikon didn’t do more to ensure decent image quality in this day and age.

          • ITN

            Right. But the videos Nikon uploaded seemed quite nice. I wonder if it is a question of approrpriate post-processing.

            • MB

              Maybe Nikon used Panasonic G7 for videos pre-processing to avoid post-processing …

            • Spy Black

              Right, but most people aren’t big on post. So the question then is how does the Keymission footage look like out of the box compared to GoPro footage out of the box?

              The sync complaints are justified, although complaints of upload times are probably more out of impatience than anything else. I have an SJCAM 4000 (GoPro knockoff) that can transfer via WiFi and the transfer times are understandably long because, well, the files are big! Mind you, the SJCAM only shoots HD. I can imagine Keymission (as well as GoPro) 4K files being significantly larger.

          • Richard Hart

            the stitching is done in camera which is a first and it is pretty noticeable. I wonder if this could be fixed with a firmware update to change the type of blending filter?

            • Thom Hogan

              The in-camera stitching is worse than the Ricoh Theta. By far.

        • Thom Hogan

          For cameras that rely upon another device, Nikon’s QuickStart and manual are dereft of any useful help in what you’re supposed to do. It’s also unclear what software, if any, fully supports the 360 at the moment.

          • ITN

            What is the format of the video files? Thanks.

            • Thom Hogan

              Surprisingly, the 80 doesn’t give specs of the video format. I’ll have to reverse engineer that. You have PAL or NTSC option only. But it appears to be 1080P/30/25 using the way I write specs.

              The 170 adds 2160P/30/25. The 360 adds 2160P/24, 1920P/24, 960P/30/25, 640P/120/100, 320P/240/200.

              I think. Still ferreting everything out. It’s all MPEG-4, too.

              Had Nikon management given this to people who knew nothing about it, the product wouldn’t have been released. I’ll have a lot more to say about this soon, but there are issues and problems everywhere.

      • Wow, indeed. Especially the fact that not only the connectivity is being picked up upon, but also the actual image quality, which Nikon was advertising left and right…

      • TheInfinityPoint

        [In Trump voice]: “The Keymission reviews on Amazon are SO BAD…”

  • Morris

    Yes!!! im gonna order 12 like a box of eggs!

    • And then take them to a driving range… 😀

  • br0xibear

    When the first rumours about the Key Mission cameras started to surface, the question I had was “If GoPro with all their background/knowledge in this field is failing, how are Nikon going to succeed?”
    Now the cameras are for sale, I still have the same question.
    This quote comes from an article on the uk businessinsider site about GoPro, but I think it’s relevant to key Mission too…
    “GoPro shares came to market at a time when people thought everyone would find it really fun to record everything they did and then put that footage on the internet. Except doing that isn’t actually that easy. Or fun perhaps. But either way, people aren’t really buying GoPros anymore, and retailers don’t want to sell them.”
    I’m not the target buyer for Key Mission, maybe I’m looking at it all wrong and Nikon will do really well with these cameras ?

    • Eric Calabros

      %98 of all those people I’ve seen using GoPro are doing things in their life that people cant do or dont have money/time to do.

    • Thom Hogan

      Moreover, GoPro is aware of that and trying to address it. It’s unclear whether Nikon recognizes the problem and is trying to address it.

  • New Yoko

    I got Nikon 360 today, Mission Impossible!!! You need to update your smart phone to the latest iOS version, forget the camera on previous attempt on wifi setting, reconnect, find password in camera setting, need to be away from other strong wifi signals like outside in middle of the forest. I haven’t seen the actual footage yet, tomorrow. App and its user manual are not clear in direction. Camera seems well made. Likely to return it, stay with GoPro HERO5 Black and wait.

  • geofflivingston
    • MB

      This is KM 170 right? I never realized how tiny the screen actually is … it seems that all KM cameras are totally useless without a cell phone display … and with an app that mostly does not work … argh … why is it that everything Nikon does lately is so frustrating and aggravating …

      • geofflivingston

        I actually like it. It’s perfect for street photography. Now the OS that locks when you try to play your images is a major pain in the ass.

      • Otis Criblecoblis

        Working as designed I’d say ;>)

  • RVN SF VET

    I think these products will remain “in stock” for a long time. Nikon’s entry into this field is very late and is unlikely to be successful. Nikon’s product and product feature judgement is questionable, at least for the North American market.

  • MonkeySpanner

    Seriously? Is this really a market Nikon can make money in? If Nikon had put a less noisey sensor in the Nikon 1 and made some faster zooms – things could have been very interesting. But alas – they didn’t want to make that system appealing – so here we are with Nikon grasping for straws in a market that is foreign to them.

  • Eric A

    What does the KeyMission 80 do that a cell phone camera doesn’t do – except for the fact it doesn’t have a flash, is yet another thing to carry around and have charged?

    • Richard Hart

      My first impression was that it’s purpose is as a body cam for cops.

      • Otis Criblecoblis

        With any luck the bad guys’ll shoot for the Nikons.

    • geofflivingston

      I think it’s much more than that on first glance. My 170 is more like a miniature fisheye camera with more mojo than my Samsung Edge 7. It’s basically a great competitor to the GoPro.

    • Studor

      It will survive if you:
      – leave it in the sun for more than just a few minutes
      – drop it onto concrete
      – forget it in the freezer

      One is a (tough) camera and one is a phone with which you can take photos. You can shoot a camera much, much quicker than you can use a phone to take a picture. Try it.

      It is also about the size of a matchbox. And I plan to get one.

      Lastly, if you take say 300 photos with your phone and an important call comes in, guess what is going to happen in the middle of your call?

      • Otis Criblecoblis

        You’re a “glass half-full” kinda Nikon fanboi aren’t you?

        • Studor

          Fanboi, hell yes.

          Glass half-full, no. I have a wonderful wife, two beautiful kids and 35 or so Nikkor glass.

          Daughter keeps asking if she can take her phone for a swim or to get her a waterproof case. I told her I would rather get her the KM-80. Son has already destroyed an iPad and a Nikon compact by repeatedly dropping them.

          If you have children you will understand that their small hands are quite suited for cameas like the KM series.

          • August Personage

            Well, Nikon has the toddler photographer market locked then.

            • Studor

              Toddler market? No idea. My kids are 9 and 12.

              But if Nikon does have the toddler market locked then good for them. Why not?

              There are hundreds of million parents with toddlers, and it is the parents who buy the cameras, right?

            • Otis Criblecoblis

              Rofl

          • Otis Criblecoblis

            Roger that. I still rue Nikon’s sad state compared to her…ahem…competitor.

  • whisky

    i suspect they’ll currently be “in stock” for some time.
    at least until reviews start to rave about them.

  • Was anyone able to successfully connect KeyMission to iPhone 7?

    • New Yoko

      i connect to my iPhone 6s plus after updating to latest iOS 10.1 and you need to erase or forget earlier camera name on your wifi to reconnect, password on your camera is on the camera setting

  • sickheadache

    Exciting times at Nikon. My own Aunt..got a new hip and new riding lawnmower, but her pussy…….cat, Snotz…died..Aunt May had to rest her tired old pussy………..cat.

    • Allan

      It’s a cheap shot, but the post is funny. My condolences to your aunt, and to you, as the cat’s cousin.

    • Have you been watching re-runs of “Are You Being Served?”

      • Mr_Miyagi

        My wife and I are watching those episodes on the full DVD collection that we bought. When we saw them originally on TV, we thought they were quite funny. But now I have to admit the humor is very, very low-brow.

        • I’m not opposed to “low-brow” humour, but I have a problem with formulaic and repetitive anything.

          When I saw Are You Being Served in the late ’70s it seemed to my adolescent brain to be hilarious and, by the standards of the time, a bit ‘shocking’. By current standards it’s pretty tame. In common with a lot of sitcoms, it’s pretty much the same jokes every episode, that’s what I’d find tiresome.

      • Otis Criblecoblis

        Rofl.

  • New Yoko

    Nikon 360 KeyMission, after full day of video and connectivity test, it’s the worst gear i ever purchased. It’s softwares are unreliable and frustrating. Video quality reminds me of my old Super 8mm film camera from 35 years ago. Returning it ASAP.

  • Yawn. Does anyone really care? These are a day late and a feature short. Dead in 3..2..1..

  • Otis Criblecoblis

    I’m buying several of the new Nikon go-pros. Nikon is so bleeding edge with DSLR technology. 🙁

  • at Cornell University they have an incredible piece of scientific equipment known as the Tunneling Electron Microscope. Now, this microscope is so powerful that by firing electrons you can actually see images of the atom, the infinitesimally minute building blocks of our universe. if I were using that microscope right now, I still wouldn’t be able to locate my interest in the key mission cameras

    • nwcs

      Lol, one of my favorite Frasier quotes…

  • Sawyerspadre

    It sounds like Nikon should publish a connect and control specification for their hardware to let third-party app developers develop competitors to Snapbridge. If you have a free app, and it sucks, but you still have to develop, upgrade and fix it, maybe this is the place to start for Nikon to create a third-party ecosystem. Maybe they should run an App contest, like their photo contest, but for the best still app for the D500 and such, and a second to support keymission.

    • August Personage

      I think this is a great idea but one that is alien to Nikon.

      • Great ideas are alien to Nikon?

        Hmm….looking back over the last few years, it’s hard to disagree.

        (You can’t credit the D500 with being a great idea for Nikon, since Nikon fans were screaming for it for half a decade! It was pretty obvious.)

  • AYWY

    Someone who actually does 360 videos has done a comparison between the Ricoh Theta, Samsung 360 and Nikon 360. Pretty much one of the best comparison articles available now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBgjezVtUHg

  • dabug91

    I went to a KeyMission “launch” event at my local camera store the other day. I was impressed with how tiny they are in person, and the Nikon rep that was there is typically a pretty awesome guy that knows his stuff fairly well. But I don’t think Nikon properly prepared their reps on how to actually use the or demonstrate the footage with the KeyMissions. He admitted that the software he was showing some plane footage with on the MacBook was brand new to him and he didn’t really know how to use it etc. He even called it a total dog and pony show in his own words, lol.
    But I didn’t care, I only went for the free shirt and hat. ;D I definitely wouldn’t buy a KeyMission over a new GoPro Hero5. Nikon has no idea what they’re doing with action cams and KeyMission needs to be SCRAPPED ASAP. All the money they’ve poured into it should have gone to DX lenses instead. And SnapBridge and the predecessor Wireless Mobile Utility are in need of some serious work. The sooner Nikon stops wasting time with gimmicks. The better. Other than the UI of their DSLR’s, Nikon is clearly not a software company, and it shows.

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