New low price – refurbished Nikon D800: $1,699, D800E: $1,899

New low prices on refurbished Nikon D800/D800E cameras:

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  • fanboy fagz

    used D800 sell for $1400-1500. so with refurbs selling for that, those used now come down more.

    • dclivejazz

      Depending on who I bought something from, I might trust used more than refurbished. I wouldn’t trust Nikon to bother with fixing an issue such the AF problem on something they pass on as reburbished or grey market.

  • I now wonder when we may get any insight on possible replacement of the D810. I expect 2016 may provide an upgrade to complement the D5.

    • jvossphoto

      I suppose it might have the 42mp sony sensor?

      • Art

        Well, Cannon is just rolling out their camera with a 50MP sensor. I’m expecting it will be in the 50MP ballpark. If you were to make a full frame sensor that has the same pixel density as the D7100, it works out to be 56MP as I recall. With the same photosite size, I’d also expect it to be a bit less than the 56 megapixels simply because they gotta leave space for the connections for all the extra photosites. (I’m not an expert on this but, this is what I’d expect. I do have a friend who designs these sorts of chips so I can call him if I _really_ want to know.) I also wouldn’t be surprised to have the MP count even higher given how the D800 kicked butt on MPs the first time around.

        • Eric Calabros

          They just need to make the horizontal pixel count suitable for 4k video: 3840×2=7680, 7680÷1.5=5120. 7680×5120=39.3
          so its ok to be 40mp.

          • Spy Black

            Who says they need to use the entire sensor for video? 😉

            • Eric Calabros

              Video customers

            • Thom Hogan

              Not really. A good case in point is the Sony A7rII that everyone is referring to. When the full sensor is used, you get artifacts in 4K. When you use the Super35 crop for 4K, you don’t.

              It’s a similar problem to the D800 sub-sampling for HD video (and Live View).

              What true video customers want is no sub-sampling: full pixel set used and not down sampled in any way.

            • Eric Calabros

              With skipping exactly half the lines, you will have least possible artifacts I think. The problem with that is its just reading 1/4 of total sensor pixels, which ruin the ISO performance, one of the reasons people buy FF camera at first place. The problem with D800 is that it doesnt skip in a straight way, picks a red from somewhere, picks a green from somewhere else, guessing the missing is like solving a puzzle for processor, horizontal sampling is different from vertical sampling and so on.

            • Thom Hogan

              The Sony sensor is
              7952 x 5304. We’re trying to get to 3840 x 2160. Double those numbers and you have 7680 x 4320, so yes, you can crop the Sony sensor down to 2x what you need and thus essentially end up with a binned 4K. But binning isn’t without side issues, it’s just better than sub-sampling. How much better we’ll have to wait and see.

            • El Aura

              Shouldn’t a 2×2 downsampling provide better results with Bayer sensors than a 1:1 mapping?

            • Thom Hogan

              Depends upon how you do it. What I’m hearing from someone who has an A7rII is that there are artifacts on the full frame capture that aren’t on the crop capture. This implies that they’re taking a shortcut to process all that 42mp information into 4k.

            • Spy Black

              You have plenty of video real estate on a full frame sensor. Hell, you have plenty on an APS-C sensor.

    • Art

      I was wondering this as well. As I recall, the D800 rolled out the first day or two of April or May. Clearly, it isn’t gonna happen this year and of course, the D800 had all sorts of production delays due to the tsunami. So I have to wonder what sort of timing cycle we could reasonably expect to see.

      • Thom Hogan

        Current implied cycle is every two years for a small update. Whether that means every four years for a major update is unknown. The one body that has always been difficult to predict from Nikon’s schedule is the three-digit body (D200, D300, D700, D800, etc.). There’s no real predictability to their refresh cycle.

        The one-digit bodies are every four years with a refresh in between (the D4 notwithstanding, as it was impacted by the quake). The three-digit bodies have been on one-to-two year refresh cycles, though there have been some blips recently (the D3500 is long overdue).

    • EarlFargis

      Sony has said they won’t let any other manufacturer come out with a body using their new 42 mp sensors until 6 months after they release theirs, the a7R II. So early 2016 sounds about right.

      • RodneyKilo

        Sony has never said that. It’s just the internet echo chamber, anonymous people echoing the unsubstantiated claims of other anonymous people. And then other posters come along and state it as fact.

        The reality is we have no idea what the arrangements are between Sony’s commercial sensor division and its OEM customers vs that of Sony’s consumer products division.

        We have no way of knowing whether the former line of business really wants to concede sales to the later, given individual P&L responsibilities.

        Shareholders care little that a Sony consumer product hits the market first, vs total return on their investment.

        • Thom Hogan

          Moreover, that would have us believe that a barely profitable, smaller division of Sony dictates to the only growing, highly profitable electronics division of Sony. One that grew via partnerships in the first place.

  • Nikon1isAwesome!

    Nice. Still happy with the ol’ D700. Only 40K actuations….

    • Art

      The D700 is an awesome camera still. But you need to get out more! (We all do….)

      • Nikon1isAwesome!

        I think that every week. Damn job! Even so, I really only use the D700 for planned photos. My S110 P&S does the lion’s share and I carry the V1 with me more and more.

        • Tom Bruno

          The S110 is an amazing camera! Like my S95, shoot it in raw, give it some proper care in post, and you’ll amaze and mystify your friends.

          • Nikon1isAwesome!

            Shot some very casual JPEGs at a friends wedding (in the rain) two weeks ago with the S110. The “real” photographer was rockin’ his two D4s SLRs with the 14-24 and 24-70. He’s kneeling in the isle in the first shot.

          • Nikon1isAwesome!

            I shot some very casual JPEGs (in the rain) with the S110 last week at a friends wedding. Snaps for facebook. The photographer was rockin dual D4s with the 14-24 and 24-70.

        • Spy Black

          The S110 is a nice camera, but using it in bright sunlight is extremely difficult, and sometimes impossible. The same goes for my J4. That’s why I now use an RX100 III. It not only has a pretty effective aperture grid on the screen that allows you to use it in sunlight better, but it has an EVF that is a lifesaver. A bit fatter than the S110, but it still “just” fits in my jeans pocket.

          • Nikon1isAwesome!

            Absolutely! I experimented with a couple of other cameras when my S95 died (lens failure). Honestly, it was the amazing PSC-900 belt case that brought me back. I have never found a better solution to having a camera with me and ready all-day every-day. It is near perfection….

    • Imus

      Same boat. I sold my original D700, bought a D600 and quickly sold it, bought another D700. Was considering “upgrading” but more megapickles just isn’t enough reason, especially when 17″x22″ prints from my D700 look great and give me plenty of resolution and detail (as in tiny dots in the sky that are flying birds when zoomed in).

  • catinhat

    So few comments on this thread, no one gets excited anymore. Another bad sign for Nikon…

  • Ric

    If this had been a year ago I would have these instead of the Df. Knowing what I know now after having the Df I’m glad of my decision.


  • Thom Hogan

    It strikes me that “refurbished” has become the new “on sale” mechanism for the camera companies. It allows them to present the illusion of a list price, yet allows them to keep the inventory moving. And in so doing, also reduce their on-going warranty liability.

    It’s been clear to me that some of the refurbished is really just new product that was re-marketed. In some cases these are dealer returns or Big Box overstock returns, but I suspect some are simply new gear which would sit in warehouses otherwise.

    I find it difficult to accept that NikonUSA is “refurbishing” as many products as we see selling as refurbished. They simply don’t seem to have the capacity to do as much inspection, testing, fixing, and repackaging as implied by the volume of refurbished we’re seeing on the market (tens of thousands of units across the DSLR products).

    • I agree, grey market and refurbished is the new “on sale” – this is why I started reporting those every week. This also is the only way to get lower priced items since Nikon is enforcing their prices in the U.S.

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