Dpreview believes Nikon 1 is no longer in development

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A reader pointed out to me this paragraph from the just published Canon EOS M review by Dpreview:

Trying to figure out where the EOS M3 fits into the mirrorless landscape is tough. Its closest peers, based on price and features, are the Fujifilm X-A2, Olympus E-M10 II and Sony a6000 (we're leaving Nikon 1 cameras out of the list, as we believe the series is no longer being developed.)

Yes, Dpreview thinks that the Nikon 1 cameras are no longer being developed and they are a website known for not publishing any speculations online.

I have not received any rumors about new Nikon 1 products in a long time. In the past few months Nikon has filed several lens patents designed for cameras with 1" sensor, but they could be for potential/future DL models.

Currently there are no discounts/rebates on the Nikon 1 cameras and 1 Nikkor lenses in the US.

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  • RONIN

    Nikon 1 gone to camera heaven and Nikon Co. looking for greener pastures.

    • Husselang

      I have a tip for them. Make a mirrorless camera with a decent sized sensor (at least DX, FX preferably). Release some dedicated lenses optimized for the shorter distance to the sensor, and make an adapter so people can use their old F-mount lenses as well.

      I would buy one in a heart beat.

      • pl capeli

        amen to that …. well said but with a corner evf

  • StevenS

    I saw this earlier. Would this be an assumption based on the dl series and thinking it will be replacing it?

    • Captain Megaton

      It depends if the we in “we believe” is Jeff Keller’s personal opinion or dpreview editorial position.

      If it was editorial – and it should have been – then there would have to be more to it than that as Nikon 1 are still on sale and not marked discontinued AFAIK, so dpreview should by its own policy have included them in any comparative reviews.

      • El Aura

        But it wasn’t a comparative review. It was a review of the Canon M3. They mention a few competing cameras but very clearly don’t intend to do a full market overview (as they shouldn’t in the review of single camera). They are missing Panasonic and Leica as well.

  • Jarret O’Shea

    Completely understand why, but still a little disappointed, it seemed like they had finally started to get things right with the J5.

    • Captain Megaton

      Price aside though, the DL24-85 would be more attractive than the J5 10-30PD for the vast majority of potential customers.

      • StevenS

        Agree. But the DL series doesn’t answer people who want more like what a milc can provide. A DL is like coolpix A for the dx series. I think the DL will find a lot of support, I just hope there is something more in the N1 line.

    • David

      The problem is that, other than the 18.5mm, you’re pretty much only going to put two lenses on the J5: the kit 10-30 or the 6.7-13. One DL has a greater (and more effective) zoom range as well as a faster lens. The other has the exact same zoom range but a much faster lens. You could even buy both DLs and have spent only an extra few hundred over buying a J5 and the wide-angle zoom. Once you’re in such a small-sensor territory, at some point a compact is going to be able to do the same job better.

      • Jarret O’Shea

        Personally, it’s the opposite for me–I want long lenses on the 1 series. ~200-800mm zoom equivalent that doesn’t weigh a ton, is quite sharp, and zooms as fast as I move it? Awesome. I realize that it’s not really the use case for their major target demographic though.

        • Tord55

          It is not just quite sharp, it is amazingly so. I shoot with 70-200/4.0, 70-300 VC, 70-300CX, and Sigma 150-600 Sport, and under most circumstances the lightest of them, the 70-300CX, is the sharpest, no question about it. At least as long as the camera attached has a comparable number of pixels!

  • Spy Black

    They’re not the only ones who share that thought…

  • DLynch

    RIP

  • StevenS

    Wouldn’t fire sales to clear out inventory be the confirmation of that?

    • Yes, but I have not seen a fire sale yet.

      • Another reason to take what you read on dpreview with a grain of salt.

    • Captain Megaton

      The J5 and V3 have been selling at the expected levels for a year or so. They can manage inventory to meet demand with no need to clear out anything. Once demand finally tapers off, once the last boxes are sold, they put up the “discontinued” flag and call it a day, no fire sale.

      (Indeed, prices of the V3 and CX70-300 haven’t budged since the DL announcement. It remains to be seen if they will dip once the DLs actually go on sale.)

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      The J5 uses a Sony sensor, so its manufacturing volumes have been affected by the Kumamoto earthquake. No need to reduce prices when inventory is already low, and I’m sure Nikon will have taken enough precautions to prevent the $99 fire sales they had on all previous J and S models to move NOS, aka “refurbs”.

      • StevenS

        The DL is using a similar, if not exact sensor I believe by looking at its specs, so probably part of why along with the processor boards that the camera has been held up.

  • Shutterbug

    DPR is often slow to get information, and the last to publish announcements – this may be true, but it’s extremely unlikely they would be the first ones to leak it, so I doubt it’s anything official that they are referencing.

  • Mike M

    Dear Nikon, I’d like to reserve a fire sale priced V3 and 70-300 CX

    • DLynch

      Not sure they even have any N1’s or accessories left. I bet they haven’t been producing them in quite a while. Good Luck

      • StevenS

        Amazon J5 is #1 in Mirrorless camera bundles and they have 8 in stock. V3 10 in stock. 70-300 cx 16 in stock and more on the way.

        • DLynch

          They must be doing real well then.

          • StevenS

            The j5 is a nice little camera. The 70-300 is a great little lens too.

            • DLynch

              I had a V3 and 70-300 for three months.

            • StevenS

              I stuck with a v2 and recently picked up a j5. Better build on the v vs the j bodies. But the j5 sensor is nice. Why did you ditch your combo?

            • DLynch

              i was not pleased with the image quality. I did like the convenience of the size but I’ll stick with big DSLR’s until something better comes along.

            • StevenS

              Yea. The bigger bodies have better IQ. But if you shoot raw and keep the ISO down, it is capable of nice images. I take the N1 when I don’t want to or can’t pack a bigger kit. DXO Optics Pro PRIME does a nice job on the images. Thomas Stirr has a nice site with a lot of work processed this way. He recently picked up a few j5 bodies and is having a good time with them.

            • DLynch

              Enjoy

            • Neopulse

              How was the range with it though? Bird worthy?

            • Shutterbug

              There are tons of people birding with the 1-series and the 70-300 (189-810mm equivalent). The combination of speed, AF, and reach was overshadowed by the small sensor in a lot of people’s minds think. Fantastic birding combo.

    • Kyle

      I got a cx 70-300 from KEH for $725 (and it came with the tripod mount!). I use it on my V1 and it works great.

      If this is really the end I’ll pick up a j5 as a final go.

      • StevenS

        Some are strapping Hoodman or Zacuto finders on the J5 for using with the longer lenses in place of an evf. I’m going to play with that a bit too.

        • spicynujac

          B&H had a great deal recently, I picked up a Hoodman clone for like $30-40 just for this purpose.

          • StevenS

            How is it working out?

    • zzzxtreme

      i want the 6.7-13 and 70-300

  • StevenS

    I think if they got rid of the entry level bodies and lenses and made a few more higher end lenses and a new feature complete v body with the newer sensor and – importantly – market it as an enthusiast camera only, would raise the camera system to where it could and should be.

    • Eric Calabros

      I guess they are thinking even that approach will be too little too late.

    • Edward Mitchell

      My understanding was the low end J series cameras traditionally sold well in China and Japan, whereas higher end cameras tended to sell better in North America. But then, perhaps my memory is messed up 🙂

      It is clear that as smart phones cleaned out the point n shoot market, and most of the compact market, all of the camera makers are focusing on 1″ sensors now to differentiate their products from smart phones. With the success of several integrated 1″ sensor cameras (e.g. Sony and others), I think Nikon is going down the same path with the DL series. That seems to be where the larger market is going to be in the future.

      • StevenS

        I’m sure you are right with 1″ being the way forward. I would also make an assumption that the entry level j and s camera user doesn’t care if the lens comes off or not. The DL simplifies their world and this is good. However it leaves the enthusiast who wants a Nikon milc out. Hopefully they have a solution.

    • KnightPhoto

      Nikon squandered the worlds best on-sensor PDAF. They had this advantage since day 1 and where else did they put it…

      • StevenS

        I really have a feeling it will show up in other places still aside from the upcoming DL.

  • Badboy35

    Do it right or don’t do it at all.

  • Aldo

    Don’t need to be a clairvoyant to predict that one…

  • Nikon User

    We all knew that ever since:

    1. DL line came out.
    2. Nikon website puts DL up above N1.
    3. Lack of movement of the J and V lines.

    I am fxxked as I didn’t sell any of my N1 lens and bodies in time.

    R.I.P

    • jmb2560

      No worries: I’ll buy those to add to my collection of Nikon cameras. The “1” will fit well next to the Pronea S kit I have, bought New in box on in Bay for about $100. Ken Rockwell calls it “Nikon’s crummiest APS SLR”!

      • Pat Mann

        Pronea discontinued? No way!

    • StevenS

      Inventory is low on eBay. Go put it up right away.

  • nwcs

    Time for a fire sale Nikon. I’ll buy a V3 with EVF for $199 any day of the week.

    • Neopulse

      I’m actually waiting for something like that to happen actually. Would get that along with the 32mm and 18.5mm.

      • StevenS

        I’m sure there are about 10,000 other people waiting for that too 🙂

      • KnightPhoto

        The 32mm may get hard to find if you don’t already own one.

        • Neopulse

          Yeah, I remember it being discontinued awhile back. It worried me. Still hoping for that fire sale to happen one of these days.

  • I bought a V1, 10-30 and 30-110 lenses for $399 a few years ago. How can you make an enthusiast camera that has lenses with a toylike build and no focus ring? I used it a few times and set it aside.

    I am currently loaning it to a friend whose camera broke. She can’t afford to get it fixed yet, so I’m glad I had this system to help her out. That’s about the only reason I’m happy I bought it.

    • StevenS

      The 32 1.2 and the 70-300 have focus rings and are anything but toylike. The 10-30 and 30-110 were plasticky. The latter is quite a nice performer however. The 6.7-13 is a gem, the 18.5 is small sharp and fast as well. The non PD 10-100 is quite a decent lens for a super zoom. Manual focusing can also be achieved from the camera controls but it is kludgy. It’s like they couldn’t make up their minds on what they wanted the system to be. They finally have a bunch of fragments of pieces. They just need to put them cohesively together.

      • Neopulse

        The PD 10-100mm, why did they discontinue it though? Thought it was superior to the latest one?

        • StevenS

          The PD is big and clunky compared to the rest of the system. It is optimized for video. The non PD is smaller, a bit brighter and actually quite decent for a walk about lens.

          • Neopulse

            Hmm I see… I liked the idea of holding the lens rather than the body with it on. But I see your point it being oriented for video.

            • KnightPhoto

              The PD 10-100 is actually rather sharp too. It’s an interesting lens, especially at the $250 clearance I got it at.

            • Neopulse

              Will bear that in mind. Thanks

      • Spy Black

        Actually, the 1-30 and 30-110 are both surprisingly sharp lenses, but you can’t stop down more than 1.5 stops before diffraction kills it.

        I got a J4 with the underwater housing for $350. While the sensor is miserable, the J4 is lightning fast compared to my RX100 III. I can turn the J4 on, take a shot, and shut it off in the time it take the RX to get ready to shoot! I later picked up the 30-110 to compliment the system.

        The ability to attach FF Nikkors was always fun. I’d slap on my 300mm f/4.5 Ai on it for shíts and giggles.

        Discovering the Panasonic GM5 put the J4 out to pasture.

        • StevenS

          Yea I would say 5.6 is about it but some push it to 8 when dof is needed. The non PD is sharp except the extreme corners are mushy and it likes to bloom highlights. The PD 10-30 is better if a bit more distortion. The 6.7-13 is beautiful at 10. The non PD 10-100 is also more resistant to backlight flare than the 30-110 but the 30-100 is a bit sharper at the edges. The 32 and the 18.5 are really nice even wide open and razors just one stop down from wide.

      • AKH

        I fully agree. The lenses you mention are all great.

      • I’m sure you are right – but the lenses that are consumer’s introduction to the system were plasticky (as you admit) and that makes a poor introduction. Fujifilm made gorgeous optics with their cameras, which are enormously superior in every way but autofocus. I switched to Fuji for my mirrorless system and was far happier with the way it worked.

        • StevenS

          Fujifilm made some forward thinking decisions which worked well for them. The 1 system had a system spec but lacked definition and direction. Go from the plasticky entry level lenses to the higher end special glass, but it was / is missing a whole bunch in between. Is it a low end or a enthusiast camera system? It was trying to be both but for that they need at least a lens roadmap, something Nikon has traditionally not been so good at. A new V body – or call it a DL with a CX mount would go a long way to pushing the system forward also.

  • An American in Canada

    If prices go down enough, I’ll buy a J5 for my bookshelf as the design is gorgeous. I can’t think of any other reason I would ever buy one, the IQ and ergonomics are unacceptable no matter what other perks come with the system.

  • Eleazar Liu

    Shift from D90 to N1 V1 due to lack of funds during university. The V1 cost less than 150USD 4 years ago. Bundled with the 18.5 and 6.7-13, it is really easy and comfortable to carry around. (i shoot architecture, street, landscape and some portrait) The IQ is good in raw when light is sufficient, but once the iso hit 800 the IQ drops due to the amount of noise. However, if change the picture to B&W in post processing might still produce good results. Anything beyond iso 800 is not usable even to post on FB. (depends on individual’s standard of usable of cos) Even though I like the 1 system and I would like Nikon to continue, but in terms of image quality, i do not see a bright future of the 1 system due to the sensor size. After all most 9 years of casual photography from D60 to D90 to N1 and occasionally borrow my friend’s D800 and all the golden rings, I realize that if a camera system (with flash and others) can not produce images at iso 1600, then no photos for the photographer at iso 1600 no matter how good the photographer is. The N1 system is indeed a wonderful small system, however personally, i think it is time for me to say hallo to the FX.

    • StevenS

      The j5 has a 40% higher linear resolution than the v1. Also better dr and color at low ISO. It handles underexposure better as it is essentially an exmoor design with pdaf. Very close cousin to the Sony RX 100 series all the review sites rave about. It is good for what it does.

      To make a N1 camera your only camera is limiting. To use it in the right conditions, it will produce very good results.

    • Captain Megaton

      So? Say hello to FX, and keep your V1 too.

      Trust me, it’s a great pairing. (While I disagree on V1 ISO1600 being *unusable* I do know what you mean, and once you’ve seen what the D600 can do at ISO6400…)

      • Eleazar Liu

        Yes, I will keep it. It is a great system, extra light, easy to handle and produce decent image. (imaging my friend who carries D800/D810 with 14-24 while i carry N1 with 6.7-13 to climb mountain) The biggest problem i have with N1 is its low light performance, it is hard once the sun is below horizon. If 1 system can have the same iso performance as D800 i would be very very happy. Even though N1 might be a history, but it does show that lightweight and compact is an advantage. (for casual photographer, but N1 is still enough for A4 magazine prints, at least i am happy with it) No matter where i go i can carry it with me, and i can enjoy shooting whenever i find something is interesting. It is because of this i nearly shift to fujifilm when x-t2 is announced. I know that there will be a new nikon mirrorless, and i wish and hope nikon will make it right this time.

        • Captain Megaton

          The N1 with 6.7-13 and GP-N100 is my go-to travel kit, with the 32 and SB-N5 for low light. Yes, high ISO boxes you in, but with VR on one hand and f/1.2 on the other, together with the excellent flash unit, there’s often enough there to get by.

    • AKH

      I have taken very usable images at ISO 6400 with the J5.
      It all depends on available light. Check Thomas Stirr he has taken countless images at ISO 3200 and ISO 6400 with excellent results using his V2 and J5.

      • preston

        Everyone has different levels of acceptance for noise and color fidelity levels. It’s not about how large or grainy the noise is but rather the muted color tones and color noise that I find really distracting. Can’t speak for the N1 system but I know on my D90 I would only go up to iso1600, micro 4/3 I’ll go up to 3200, and on my D600 I can deal with 6400.

        • AKH

          You are right and what I meant to say was that the light should be quite good when using an N1 camera with high ISO. In low light all he N1 cameras become really noisy 🙂

          The D90 is pretty old, but it still has a little better high ISO performance than for instance the Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II. The newer Nikons like the D7200 etc. are about half a stop better in high ISO performance than the OMD Mark II.

    • Kyle

      I love my little N1 system (V1, 6.7-13, 10-100, 70-300, SB-N5). It’s perfect for vacation and trips to the zoo.
      Before I got the N1 system about 3 years ago (and built on to it), I always took my D90 and 17-55 as my walk around kit. The N1 is so much lighter and less attention getting. (but of course, I do miss F2.8 inside)
      I rarely take my newer D7200 and D750 on vacation unless I know I’m going to be doing some serious shooting that will need those kinds of cameras.

      • spicynujac

        Agreed. Only take the FF Nikon when I’m going to do birding or extreme wildlife (ie expensive Safari). The N1 focus is amazing, beats my D750. But dynamic range suffers, and low light performance is terrible. Then again, I’m using the older AW1. I’d rebuy an AW2 with updated sensor and better battery. It’s a niche product that has little competition.

    • Edward Mitchell

      You are comparing V1 technology from 5 years ago (introduced in Sep 2011). New 1″ sensors – J5 – have dynamic range on par with micro 4/3ds (per DxO) and much improved low light capabilities, as well as 20+ MP resolution.

      Because your 2011 camera does not compete with new cameras, you’ve written off all 1″ cameras? That makes no logical sense. 1″ has moved forwards too over the past 5 years.

  • whisky

    it’s not unusual for DPreview to pontificate on comments dropped here inside NR and especially those made by Thom. i’d be surprised if DPreview’s information is any more reliable than Thom’s previously published opinions.

    what can be confirmed is that Nikon’s gone dark on the N1 system. so Thom’s suggestion that everyone visiting Nikon at Photokina press Nikon to answer what they plan for the N1 is probably the most reliable way to end the speculation.

    if, indeed, Nikon is designing a larger sensor mirrorless with the Cx mount, the N1 might very well live on as a crop sized option on a larger sensor. JMO. 🙂

  • Riley Escobar

    It’s been a foregone conclusion. The 1 series will be missed by its fans, but it was a concept that Nikon failed to develop (and price) properly.

  • Mark

    Without a proper electronic viewfinder built on like a Sony a6300, the camera was dead in the water. Drowned before birth, actually. Holding a camera at arms length and aiming via lining up the shot on the display screen is no way to get a proper photo.

    • AKH

      The V1, V2 and V3 all have good EVFs. Also a view finder is not necessarily needed for taking excellent images. The articulated touch screen on the J5 is very good and can be used for “touch to focus and shoot” which works incredible well due to very efficient and fast AF. I use it a lot by tilting the touch screen horizontally and holding the camera to my waist – a little like using an old Rolleiflex film camera.

  • Pat Mann

    Sad. I was waiting for them to get it all worked out right with the V4. EVF inboard, J5 sensor, back to the all-day battery, Nikon flash compatibility, a good fast 24-80 equivalent midrange zoom, direct access to key functions. Not going to be getting 3 DLs to cover the field of view of one V4.

  • Good riddance. They shouldn’t waste valuable R&D resource for noncompetitive products. Neither should they waste it on more DX kit zooms…

  • Morris

    when people wonder(ed) buy the 70-300 FX or the CX, some said better CX, investment wise, – a part that i still think the Nikon1 will still continue (based on nothing, just me) – it’s always best to go FX, you never know what’s gonna happen, FX glass is like gold (always) all the rest pick your ‘material’

    • whisky

      for the ultimate WA IQ — Fx
      for the ultimate IQ reach — Dx
      for the ultimate convenience and portability — Cx

      to my mind each format has a good reason to exist.

  • Mikycoud

    I doubt Nikon will leave its current nikon 1 users out in the cold weathers of “no future” land. That doesn’t mean they will not stop the 1 series (though I don’t think they will, personnaly), but coming out with a DL model with removable lens is an option.
    I mean, same sensor size, registration distance and all, why wouldn’t they try tempting current 1 users into buying a new model on which to (reverse) screw their lenses? Win win situation….
    I for one own 2 nikon 1 models (full sectrum and IR) and several lenses (nikon and Cmount ones), and I sure would hate it if Nikon left me out in the cold with so many lenses and no body to mount them onto. I’m not the only one in this situation, and they know that….

    • Edward Mitchell

      I think this is a possibility too – one of the DL bodies with an interchangeable lens. Pretty sure the DL line is the future of 1″ at Nikon.

      It would be a bad PR move on Nikon’s part to abandon those of us with am investment in Nikon 1 lenses, let alone bodies. Abandonment would be a big incentive to avoid buying future Nikon products.

      • Mikycoud

        That’s the way I see it too, although I have way too much investment in Nikon F equipment to even dare working out how much money I’d loose giving up on Nikon. That’s why I’ll probably stick with them even if they start punching low blows. Yep, that’s cowardice alright, but reasonable cowardice (the kind my banker loves) 🙂
        And Nikon knows and are banking on that of course…. thats the worst part!

  • JL

    Pity! I bought a Nikon 1 AW1 for a very good price just yesterday, for a little beach, sailing and snorkeling fun on the next vacation. Nothing could beat the AW1 for me, as I wanted something small, but better than a phone or tiny sensor compact camera.

    • spicynujac

      Don’t worry–the lenses will be around for a while, so that shouldn’t affect you. The AW1 is what got me hooked on the N1 system, and I ended up buying a bunch of other (non water proof) lenses. I wish they would update the AW1, as the sensor is not the best, but it does things no other camera will do. I love the 32mm 1.2 and the 6.7-13mm as well.

  • SpecialMan

    I don’t mean to sound ungrateful for this story, but perhaps a call to DPReview headquarters by our fearless leader would be in order.

  • ZoetMB

    In the U.S., Nikon takes its time before declaring anything discontinued, sometimes years. I think they do this so they don’t discourage sales by those dealers who may still have items in stock.

    There are six lenses still on the U.S. website that are generally unavailable, like the 80-400 AF-D (1996), the 400 AF-S G (2171), the 55-200 AF-S G VR (2166), 18-55 AF-S DX G ED II (2170), 55-200 AF-S DX G ED (2156) and the 18-55 G VR (2176). And I bet that the old G versions of the 500 and 600, which have been officially discontinued in Japan, are actually discontinued in the U.S. as well, replaced by the “E” versions, but they’re still on the website. Same for a lot of Coolpixes: there are at least 12 unavailable models that are still on the website.

    (Disclaimer: I don’t get to see the announcements that go to dealers, so it’s possible that some of the above are actually officially discontinued, even though they’re still on the website.)

    As far as the Nikon1 series is concerned, B&H has inventory on the AW1, V3 and J5. They’re all back to selling within $3 of their original list prices (the J5 10-100mm lens kit had been discounted by $150 and the 2-lens kit had been discounted by $100). Rather than dumping them, maybe Nikon decided that they’ll milk these at full price for as long as they can.

  • That’s good news.
    CX format sensor is relly not work.
    Nikon need “EVIL DX format” body

    • MiK Images

      Really? Did Sony make mistake with RX100 series (CX sensor)? Did Nikon make mistake with DL series (CX sensor)?

  • DLynch

    If the DL series ever comes out you’ll be able to buy all three for less or the same as a V series and lenses. Plus you get the newer sensor. Not for me but I think they will be popular with this group.

    • manattan

      I am in “that group” and will not bother with the DLs. Firstly out of spite for screwing all the Nikon 1 users in the rear. Secondly is that if I am going to have to “start over”, why the heck choose the throwaway Nikon DLs when better options exist elsewhere. The ONLY way I would have ever bought a DL is if they were waterproof and I can use them underwater.

      The size of the Nikon 1 was never the deciding factor for me, it was the convenience of having a high performing silent mirrorless camera with unbelievable reach when I needed it. I can get that from other manufacturers if Nikon no longer wants MILC users.

      • DLynch

        Sorry didn’t mean that as an insult. Just thought N1 users would like the DL’s. Good Luck

      • Member

        I agree and like to add that sometimes you need a body only. Like when attached to a microscope.

      • A waterproof DL is actually a great idea.

  • spicynujac

    Sad if true. I got my AW1 back from a repair and noticed when using the flash there is this “dithering” or banding at the top of the images. Any idea what could be causing this? The image below is ISO 320, 7mm (18mm equiv), f/3.5, 1/60 sec. The shadow at the bottom is typical when shooting extreme wide angle with flash, but I’ve never seen the stripes across the top before.

  • pl capeli

    another hugh fail for nikon was the missed opportunity to make affordable really fast zooms and primes…. instead sometimes we got lenses with front lens elements the size of a us dime on a can
    lit witha silly amount of waisted space of the face of the lenses , even fuji came out a kit t zoom at 2.8 to 4 in apsc size nikon could have done a small f2 to 2.8 and got huge press
    nikon has been cheap and withholding with regard to what might have been at a gtood price with a 2.7 crop

    i say good riddance to these nikons … never even had the sense to put a corner evf or make an enthusiest model without the dumbed down interface and controls ….. nikon can buy a clue or read a trend of wish from the photographic community

    same with the new compacts based on 1 inch sensors … a corner evf would have made these exciting and desirable , so of course they did not do it

  • steven8217

    Being a Nikon user for over 30 years, I certainly do not believe Nikon will abandon the Nikon 1 CX mount as there is nothing need to be abandon on the investment on CX.
    I believe the performance improvement cycle on the 1 inch sensor is slower than Nikon expectation so they put the V4 on hold, waiting for the 1 inch sensor performance to catch-up and I believe Nikon will launch a new Nikon 1 model during their 100 years celebration event. All the investment on the CX mount are already done, Nikon just need the 1 inch sensor to catch-up then boon, Nikon can launch another Nikon 1 camera.
    It make perfect sense for Nikon to introduce what I call a convenience package of DL line which is very compact and not to mention the DL model can now use the standard Nikon speedlight which is a plus.
    Unlike other camera manufacturer including Canon abandon their older camera mount, Nikon never ever abandon their F-mount and they will not abandon their CX mount either, just does not make any sense.
    Off cause this is just my opinion from a long time Nikon user and we will know the outcome during Nikon 100 years anniversary.

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