Nikon DL is the name of the new compact cameras line with 1″ sensor

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1" sensor

Additional information on the three new Nikon DL compact cameras with 1" sensor:

Nikon DL 24-85

  • Sensor: 1 inch BSI CMOS sensor
  • Lens: 24-85mm f/1.8-2.8
  • Size: 105.4 x 61.5 x 50.0 mm
  • Weight: 350g

Nikon DL 18-50

  • Sensor: 1 inch BSI CMOS sensor
  • Lens: 18-50mm f/1.8-2.8
  • Size: 105.5 x 62.5 x 56.6 mm
  • Weight: 350g

Nikon DL 24-500

  • Sensor: 1 inch BSI CMOS sensor
  • Lens: 24-500mm f2.8-5.6
  • Size: 122.5 x 89.9 x 139.4 mm
  • Weight: 830g

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  • Noor

    In before every stupid “it’s not for me so Nikon is failing” comment.

  • It’s not for me. Nikon is failing

    • tertius_decimus

      UPVOTED!

    • Shutterbug

      .

      • tertius_decimus

        Some people lack sense of irony.

    • Seriously. A cell phone is a new compact camera. It costs you nothing and it fit your pocket much more better. And very soon its gonna be much more capable of.
      If you want more -> mirrorless (still compact).
      Come on Nikon. We are talkin IM A PAST/ I AM THE FUTURE kinda talk.

      • Aldo

        Go all out… give an excuse to bother carrying a compact and use it instead of your cellphone… a better excuse. I can see how the long zoom version may be attractive to some… but the other ranges… Im ok with my cellphone.

        • Duncan Dimanche

          18-50mm at f1.8-f2.8 is and insane wide lens at a massive aperture. I can think of tons of ways this camera can be used.. Taking photos in dark buildings like churches or small places apartments (for real estate)…. astronomy… etc…

          • Aldo

            The use is there for sure… but as a casual camera Im ok with my cellphone.

            • Duncan Dimanche

              sure you like a lot of other people will be plenty happy with their cellphones… while the rest of us will love new tiny cameras like those
              😉

          • gorilla

            You’ll probably take your DSLR anyways at that point.

  • Peter

    Will be interesting to see how they look like.

  • Eric Calabros

    So 18-50 lens weight is equal to 24-85? What a shame Nikon didn’t make this wide lens for N1 series.

    • Eric Calabros

      from same link:

      “DL24-85 DL18-50 is relatively compact, but there seems to be a little thick when compared to the RX100 and G7X of the same 1 inch machine. DL24-500 is quite a large size, depth looks par P900”

      • they will post the pics soon – they always break down their info into separate posts

        • Spy Black

          Are those supposed to be full frame equivalent focal lengths? I will have to assume so, because those are rather long lenses in 1-inch territory.

      • but yes, Sony is very good at making small cameras and I didn’t think anyone can beat them – just look at the full frame RX1

        • Eric Calabros

          Maybe it’s because of the hot shoe

        • nhz

          yes, but more compact almost always has a price. RX100-1/2 was a bit compromised optically (soft corners at WA and quite slow at maximum tele). RX100-3/4 is compromised in focal length range, 70mm max is a bit short for most users.
          Will be interesting to see if Nikon can offer at least the same optical quality as RX100-3/4 lens with more focal length range (plus some other improvements like better color and metering).

    • I think you’re mixing them up.

    • El Aura

      They did with the 6.7-13 mm (18-35 mm equiv.).

      • Eric Calabros

        But not 50 at tele end and not f/1.8 at wide end.

        • El Aura

          Sorry, I had misread your post as “didn’t make this as wide a lens”. Similarly as to it is done in stenography, my mind tends to fill in such tiny words (or leave them out when typing).

    • Max

      these are 35mm equivalents right?

      • Eric Calabros

        Yea

    • ChriZZZZ

      I’m completely on your side. If there was a similar lens to the 18-50 (about 6.5-18.5)
      for CX, I’s buy it immediately for my J5. This would be the perfect
      Lens for city travel and indoor (low light Perfomance!) whereas the
      10-100 is perfect for hiking etc.

      It would be interesting, the wide angle version also has OIS.

  • Jonathan Björklund

    350g 18-50mm. If the image quality is great than this camera would be a perfect lightweight always bring-with-me camera.

  • Dino Brusco

    Call them A B and C and 18-50 will fall exactly with my name initials… D L B XD – joking aside, I’m really curious to see what has Nikon in store for us !

  • Corey Sandler

    That 18-50 camera sounds too good to be true! I wouls sell my Canon in a heart beat if the image quality and low light performance are an improvement as well over the 2014 G7x!

    • Cinematismo Cultura

      I very interested in the 18-50mm, and I also have the Canon G7X.

    • Max

      me too but it’s not going to have a viewfinder..

  • Jack Scholl

    I assume these are 35mm focal lengths?

    • Shutterbug

      Yes, 35mm equivalents 100% for sure. Divide by 2.7 to get the actual FL.

  • Jack Scholl

    The DL 24-500 is roughly the same size and weight as the V3/70-300 CX kit.

    • pedantic_brit

      But it covers the 24-189 range too.

      • Jack Scholl

        But not the 501 to 810mm range.

        • pedantic_brit

          Sure, and I love the reach of my 70-300CX. Sometimes having the wide end available without changing cameras or lenses may be more useful than the extreme reach – and at other times not. The fixed lens camera isn’t really a substitute for the V3 or vice versa.

          • Jack Scholl

            I agree.

    • Max

      This will probably be competing with the RX10 and FZ1000

      • nhz

        yes, and Canon Powershot G3X (24-600mm equiv.) and to some extent even DSLR combo’s like a Canon SL1 with 55-250STM lens (88-400mm equiv., add 18-55STM lens for WA coverage). Even the DSLR kit is roughly similar size/weight/price, but like with the Nikon V you get a two lens solution if you also need the WA range, and better optical quality and larger sensor.

        These are all solutions with relatively large (tele) zoom range, larger sensor compared to normal superzoom compacts and relatively slow equivalent aperture. They all have their specific pros and cons especially when it comes to ergonomics (viewfinder, IS, handling speed etc.).

        • Max

          It would take sales away from cheap DSLR combos, but that doesn’t mean it’s a similar system. It’s a small-sensor fixed lens camera with an electronic viewfinder. Very different thing altogether.

          • nhz

            I didn’t say they are similar, just similar size/weight/price 😉

            These systems (I think we are only talking about the DL 24-500 and alternatives here) are similar from a practical point of view though for many potential buyers. They want a camera with a bit better IQ, large (tele) zoom range, good feature set, below 1 kg and usually price up to $1000 or so.

            Of course the technologies are very different (‘specific pros and cons’) but many of these buyers may not really care what is under the hood, as long as the camera meets a certain spec (like ‘maximum zoom range’). Even the ‘small sensor’ part is relative, the equivalent apertures of these long zoom systems are in the same range so there shouldn’t be a huge difference in performance as long as there is decent light.

  • Clubber Lang

    Any guesses on the price of these cameras?
    I am guessing $1000ish. I sure hope I am way off.

    • BlueBomberTurbo

      Me too. Very interested in the 18-50mm version, since I’m starting a job in NYC next month and would love to have a wide version of the RX100 to shoot with (24’s nowhere near wide enough for my taste).

    • DouglasGottlieb

      I pity the fool who pays $1000!

      $699 or DOA

  • Orange Elephant

    Are the listed focal lengths actual or equivalent?

    • Dino Brusco

      Being 1″ I’d say they are equivalent… I don’t even imagine a 24-500 f/2.8-5.6… In FF

  • doge

    I wonder if they’ll cripple these and remove raw.

    • nwcs

      They’ll just use NRW. That way they can claim raw but not really.

      • doge

        I just looked that up. Had never heard of that before. Is it just a compressed format they use in 1 coolpix camera?

      • Cinematismo Cultura

        I don´t think so, the NRW is a Raw format used in cameras like the Coolpix P330 and P340, but all the Nikon 1 series and the Coolpix A come with the Nikon´s RAW file format NEF.

        • nwcs

          The NRW is not as robust, though, and I could see Nikon doing that as an artificial way of making distinctions.

          • Cinematismo Cultura

            I repeat I don’t think so, I guess they come with the NEF raw files, like Coolpix A or N1. Nikon uses NRW in 1/7 sensor cameras.

          • Cinematism

            I mean, I agree the NRW is not as robust as NEF, but I said that I believe that all these new cameras will come with NEF

  • Espen4u

    Why this incoherency? Incontestable the name should be CL, right?

    • pedantic_brit

      As in Leica CL?

      • Espen4u

        As in CX without eXchangeable lens…

  • Cinematismo Cultura

    I will go for the 18-50mm, just perfect for my needs!

  • Tieu Ngao

    I’d buy one of the first two if they beat the Sony RX100 M4 in terms of IQ and features.

    • Shutterbug

      Going to be very, very, hard to beat the RX100 M4 in terms of features, especially with it’s $1,000 price tag. The fact that they don’t have built-in pop-up viewfinders will be a deal breaker for some already. That being said I think they will be significantly cheaper than the RX100 M4 and therefore probably not direct competition.

      • BlueBomberTurbo

        Yup, Sony’s in a class of their own in the 1″ P&S world. I’d think Nikon’s trio would have a similar level of features to the J5. Hopefully developing three separate lenses at once won’t jack the prices up too much…

      • Tieu Ngao

        You’re probably right. It’ll be interesting to see how it turns out.

    • Cinematismo Cultura

      In IQ sure, Nikon’s light measure system is better and the color and Withe balance is also better, Sony metering system is not as good as Nikons, and tends to oversharp the image by processing it (I have RX100 and HX60v) in a bad way. In features, yes, Sony has a lot of them, more than Canon and Nikon, less than Samsung and Panasonic, but it’s a matter of taste

      • Tieu Ngao

        I think we’re in exciting times, the industry as a whole is declining and the manufacturers are trying harder!

  • Merv S

    A rugged waterproof version of this with NEF files could work…is this sensor the same size as those in the Nikon 1 series?

    • Cinematismo Cultura

      That´s would be a good idea! Yes, this new NL series supposed to have a 1″ sensor

  • Kyle

    Maybe this explains why Nikon hasn’t released any new Nikon 1 lenses that are wide and fast and also zooms/fast.
    Does this signal the end of the Nikon 1 experiment? Let’s hope not!

    • Jack Scholl

      I just hope Nikon tells us the status of the N1 system. Not knowing will complicate the decision making process.

      • Kyle

        Yeah. I love my V1. Would buy more 1 stuff if they’d do a v4 or v5.

      • Shutterbug

        Nikon has repeatedly said they have no plans to cancel the 1 system, I wouldn’t worry much about that.

        • Jack Scholl

          I hope you are right!I

    • Cinematismo Cultura

      I also hope not. I am happy with my V1 and my J5.

    • Tieu Ngao

      I hope they’ll have V4 at 2/3 the price of V3 but better sensor then I’ll buy it with the 70-300mm lens to shoot birds!

    • HotDuckZ

      No it’s not the same market. No compact camera with unique lens like 18.5 1.8, 32 1.2 and 70-300 and it’s interchangeable. If I were Nikon I will slow down The Nikon 1 for this new products line.

  • Mike Gordon

    Better be the same battery as the J5!

  • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

    I hope these cameras come with Raw support at least -possibly one or more of these models come with 4K Video ?

    • they must, otherwise….

      • Thom Hogan

        I agree. But this is exactly where Nikon tends to make wrong decisions, by crippling one thing so that it doesn’t really impact another.

        The critical element here is the Nikon 1. Nikon could, for instance, say the DL’s don’t get raw and 4K but the Nikon 1’s do. That would be a terrible and foolish decision, but given Nikon’s past, I can see them making a decision like this.

        As I noted before, the 1″ sensor compacts Nikon HAS to produce make the whole Nikon 1 franchise problematic. Given the same sensor use, collapsing lenses with better specs pretty much kill what Nikon’s done to date with the Nikon 1.

        So, the thing we’re all watching is this: what features will Nikon strip out of DL to make CX still have a clear place in the lineup, or what new things will CX get that DL doesn’t have? Unfortunately, both lists of potential items is small, and awkward.

        But I’ll take a whack:

        DL: no built-in EVF, zooms only, minimal connectivity, few manual controls, limited customization
        CX: all EVF, more lens choices (than present), full connectivity, more manual controls, full customization

        Even that is a marginal differentiation, I suspect, and doing any limitation on the connectivity end is counterproductive in the post-smartphone era.

        • Karhai

          A better way might be to produce the lenses fitted to the compacts in CX mounts for use on N1 bodies. That spreads the R&D cost a little (okay, only a little) but at least the N1 faithful get better options. It’s not so different from making a large sensor compact alongside DX/FX interchangeable lens cameras.

          • Thom Hogan

            The DLs are designed as collapsing lenses, which introduces some issues in trying to make the same thing in a fixed barrel. Almost certainly, they are powered zooms and powered focus, too.

        • CRB

          you forgot one thing:
          the raw buffer…
          remember their “top”” coolpixes”
          P7000…P340
          eternal shot-to-shot times once the small buffer is filled….

          • KnightPhoto

            Do you happen to know the P900 buffer? I was helping a friend with theirs on the weekend and the buffer clearing time was a factor, albeit they had a cheap 3rd party SD card in there that could also have been the culprit…

            • CRB

              But does the P900 have raw ? As far as i know, it only shoots jpeg (?) am i wrong?

            • KnightPhoto

              Yes jpg only. Buffer clearing was noticeable slow but also had a slow generic card. I winder if a fast card would even help ;-

              Good reach though and that’s the attraction:

            • CRB

              Nice…

            • KnightPhoto

              Oops, forgot attachment

            • KnightPhoto

              Here’s another example:

          • Thom Hogan

            Yes, true. Buffer and card write speed could be crippled.

        • Yes, you are right, Nikon may pull out their “cannibalization strategy” and cripple the new DL cameras. I hope they learned a lesson already from Apple.

          • KnightPhoto

            Agreed, do the best you can at each level in the lineup.

            I also got the impression at announcement that SnapBridge is a key differentiator that they intend to solidify the Nikon lineup with from top to bottom. I don’t know how much that hardware costs (NFC, BlueTooth, etc.) but it really oughta be there as Thom alludes.

        • Mato34

          “As I noted before, the 1″ sensor compacts Nikon HAS to produce make the whole Nikon 1 franchise problematic.”

          Yep, I can see the 1 system may be in a critical situation with these DL cameras, but also I could see its potential regarding price and versatility provided by this. Only if Nikon wanted to.

          Looking at some large sensor compact cameras, Sony RX100 III is now between 650-700 € and Mk IV near 1000, Panasonic LX100 is about 625 €, Canon G7X (announced its succesor) 450 €… I don’t expect DL cameras to be significantly cheaper than that cameras. Now, obviously a J5 + 10-30 kit is no rival for any of these in terms of lens specifications (not to mention the stil embarrasing UI…).

          But to upgrade or update something I must pay those prices for both body and lens (which are together). The Nikon 1 gives some versatility (as any other ILC system) in terms of use but also in terms of upgrades or updates. Nikon J5 body sells now for 360 € (a whole Nikon S2 lens kit for 300 €), Nikon 6.7-13 for 420 €, 30-110 210 €, Nikon 18.5 160 €… I could upgrade my body or extend my lens set for less money than having to buy a whole new compact camera.
          I can see lot of people being interested in that DL 18-50 equiv. as a portable wide angle “gear” to complement a major system and wanting nothing more of the “small sensors”, but I think there’s also place for the N1 system for those (myself included) who also want some potential of expansion and versatility.

          Nikon should adjust prices for lens and bodies to make the Nikon 1 a real option. Not a lot, only has to avoid the ridiculous initial prices of the V1, V2, V3… even some Jx. A year ago I would have said that was impossible, but now (after the J5 and its price) I wouldn’t.

          • Thom Hogan

            That seems wrong to me. Positioning an ILC below a fixed in the lineup and then not having the ability of the ILC to match or exceed the fixed is a recipe for failure, IMO. Might as well just make the J5 into a fixed with a lower spec lens than the DL and call it the DL-.

            But if Nikon were to make lenses, even as an option, that made the ILC 1″ equal to or better than the DL, then the DL’s start to look pricey.

            Thing is, with volume down the Japanese companies all want to increase prices and GPM. Even Sony has turned away from the market share game at the moment and concentrated on GPM. The unexpected yen appreciation so far this year is also hurting this effort, so everyone’s in a between a rock and a hard place.

    • Cinematismo Cultura

      I think one of them could be 4K. I don’t think the 18-50mm, because it seems more oriented to still photographers, but the 24-85mm, yes, it could be.

  • Andrey C

    56.6mm is as thick as a sony a5000 with a 16/2.8 pancake on. That is only jacket-pocketable.

    • preston

      I was hoping for same dimensions as Coolpix A, which just barely fits into pants pockets (and is therefore truly “go everywhere” for me). That doesn’t appear to be the case though since the Coopix A is only 41mm thick.

  • Aldo

    I’ll wait for the non crippled dx version… maybe even with interchangeable lenses.

    • preston

      1) they already make a non-crippled ILC with 1″ sensor
      2) what makes you think they won’t cripple the dx version too?

  • Dale Martin

    I’ve worked all my life as a professional photographer. I’m seriously looking at giving it up and driving a bus, going back to shooting film (how I miss my darkroom!) and to Hell with everything. Photography these days is nothing about making pictures…

    • Shutterbug

      That’s odd, the sole reason I have a camera is to make pictures – same goes for everyone else I know. Cameras are merely a tool for doing just that, and tools that can make the job easier or more pleasant or more convenient are always welcome.

    • I don’t really see the difference between a darkroom and PhotoShop/Lightroom. You are manipulating pictures in both cases. One is manual and the other one digital. Just a sign of the times. But the underlying principle is the same.

      • Dale Martin

        My comment meant that people spend more time talking about technology than taking pictures.

        • CSIROC

          You do realize you’re on a website dedicated to Nikon equipment…particularly upcoming equipment, right?

          Sorry, but this is like complaining Hot Rod Magazine doesn’t cover hybrids…should have been pretty obvious from the title…

          • Dale Martin

            You’re right. You can all carry on talking about equipment. I’ll carry on taking pictures.

            • HotDuckZ

              Comment can’t make the world better place, it’s can’t make anyone better. Try to do something that effective.

            • IronHeadSlim

              Some day, I hope we all can reach your lofty heights of superiority.

  • SpecialMan

    Finally, usable apertures on 1-inch sensor cameras!!!! Nikon has come to its senses at last! I’m in.

  • jec6613

    I’m just hoping that they don’t invent a new battery for them – EN-EL14 and EN-EL15 are both fine, thanks.

    • pedantic_brit

      EN-EL15 is unlikely – was great in the V1 but Nikon has decided it is to big.
      I’d be happy with EN-EL20 as used in the V3 and Coolpix A but Nikon couldn’t stick with that for the J4 or J5 as far as I know – pretty much the same size I think but a different tab so they are not interchangeable.

      • jec6613

        They’re both sadly unlikely, they’re optimized for DSLR use which has a very different current draw pattern than a mirrorless camera; this is why the EN-EL15’s were aging so quickly in the V1, and why when they do finally have a full frame or APS-C mirrorless camera, it won’t use the existing batteries, with the possible exception of EN-EL18.

        The EN-EL20 or 24 are candidates, and I suspect either the EN-EL20a (vis a vis the V3) or something new. We’ll have to wait and see!

        • Justtakethepicture

          Eh? In your first post you hoped they didn’t have a new battery, as EN-EL14 and EN-EL15 are both fine, and now you’re saying they’re not suitable?

          • jec6613

            What I’d like, and reality, often don’t line up. I’m just sick of having a different battery for nearly every single camera, and companies inventing new ones for no reason.

            And although it’s unlikely, mirrorless can be made to work on the EN-EL14 and EN-EL15, provided some scarifies are made in other design choices.

        • pedantic_brit

          I’m keeping my fingers crossed for EN-EL20 or 20a – I haven’t figured out the real world difference between the 20 and 20a though. But it suits me that they seem interchangeable between my V3 and Coolpix A and can use the same charger. I’m not at all optimistic that Nikon won’t come up yet another battery that needs a different charger though.

  • MonkeySpanner

    To bad Nikon didn’t feel the need to create these lenses in N1 mount. Would have made that mount much more appealing.

  • AnthonyH

    So, we have the CX lineup, with 1″ sensor and interchangeable lenses and now the DL lineup with 1″ sensor and fixed lenses….This just makes me glad I got a Nikon 1 V1 on fire sale and just added lenses over time.

  • SimenO

    The focal lengths seem to be equivalents but the apertures not. Not unusual but annoyingly inconsequent.

    • BlueBomberTurbo

      In depth of field, nope, they’re nowhere near their full frame equivalents. But in light gathering ability, it’s 100% the same.

      • Bart de Jong

        Not true. In terms of settings, and appropriate shutter speed, f/1.8 is f/1.8 is f/1.8, regardless of sensor size. That’s light density. However, in terms of total light gathered (rather than light density), equivalent apertures are the best / only way to compare lenses across different sensor sizes.

        And since I care much more about the overall end result image rather than the camera settings I used to achieve that image, overall light gathering – and thus equivalent aperture – is what I’m interested in, when assessing the potential of a camera. The ff equivalent of the wide angle DL’s sensor/lens combination is 18-50 f/4.9-7.6.

  • This 1″ market is becoming quite crowded but unless you will bring something quite new to it, I doubt people will go away from Sony, they are already the reference.

    • MonkeySpanner

      The Sony is good. I hope Nikon brings some bodies with really smart controls. Maybe something fuji-esque.

    • Davo

      The wide angle zoom would be something quite different, no? Ie. the DL18-50

  • mikew

    First post for me,the 24-500 interests me for birding,age has taken its toll on what i can carry

  • Morris

    bsi bsi bsi

  • jojo

    What DL???
    Let’s at least see what they’re like before shooting them down!

  • Imagine if they simply released some of these cameras’ lenses as Nikon 1 mount lenses… I mean no fast zooms for Nikon 1 but they can apparently pull designs for three such lenses out of their asses for compacts?

    • MonkeySpanner

      Yes. Its like they wanted the 1 system to fail.

      • HotDuckZ

        If Nikon release fast lens before DL, DL will not sale like a hotcake.

        • MonkeySpanner

          But was the DL even on the radar when the 1 system launched. They should have launched fast zooms when they launched the v1. The system doesn’t appeal to serious photographers without a fast normal zoom.

    • whisky

      Nikon could — but then they’d probably be bigger and more costly than a wide aperture zoom designed to fit a fixed body.

      • pedantic_brit

        The lens on the Coolpix A is a good example of that (well maybe not the less costly part when introduced).

        It is both exceptionally good and very small.

        I’ve long wanted a faster mid range option for N1 but will be in line for the 18-50 model if Nikon gets the camera right overall – sharp lens, good ergonomics and plenty of control options (not to mention a sensor improvement.) I already have the 6.7-13 CX and the 18.5 1.8 but it would be great to have it in a single package (sort of – as the long end won’t be 1.8)

      • It would presumably allow them to amortize the design and production cost of the lens across two products (if they want to sell a fixed lens version as well), and the margins on the interchangeable version of the lens would almost certainly be higher. Finally it would be a good experiment – for whatever reason they have yet to offer such lenses for the 1 system, and this would let them find out what their customers wanted. If these things sell well or badly, what has Nikon learned?

  • whisky

    the real questions are will they shoot RAW, and at what price point will they be introduced? guess we’ll find out soon enough.

  • BG

    Will those cameras have RAW support, bracketing, manual exposure control, bulb mode and all that stuff? If so, I could see the DL 18-50 serving as an extremely lightweight but still capable landscape camera.

  • Zoron

    Nikon DL 18-50…..interesting

  • Eric Dye

    Fingers crossed for Bluetooth!

  • malchick743

    Ugh that doesn’t sound good. Reminds me of the older film days when certain mfyers released their film P&S zooms in three varieties as well…

    If however Nikon could amalgamate the first two into a, say, 18-85 (and without any aperture drop) then that might be something to be desired

  • Augure

    It’s for me. But they’re are failing at design and function. It’s only their first iteration trying to compete with the Sony RX100

  • Aaron Pepelis

    they obviously didn’t keep this on the… *puts on glasses* DL… YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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