Tamron SP 85mm f/1.4 Di VC USD lens patent

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Tamron filed a patent in Japan for a SP 85mm f/1.4 Di VC USD full frame DSLR lens. Few months ago Tamron announced SP 35mm and 45mm f/1.8 Di VC USD lenses for Nikon F mount and it seems that the 85mm f/1.4 will be next prime in this lineup. The details from the patent application:

  • Patent # 2016-12082
  • Patent published: 2016.1.21
  • Patent filing date: 2014.6.30
  • f: 87.5187
  • Fno: 1.4578
  • ω: 13.8585 °

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  • Eric Calabros

    Their 45 size is like 85. So their 85 will be like a 135mm lens 🙂

    I want AF-P motor more than VR. Because of shallow DOF, AF in video is ridiculously noisy at f/1.4-2.8.

    • fanboy fagz

      I have yet to see ANY pro use AF when he shoots video. and every wedding I shoot, has at least 1 and sometimes we shoot huge weddings with 3 videographers. even those shoulder cams have auto zoom but always manual focus.

      • Eric Calabros

        Manual is for Hollywood, where they know where is everything and how much and in which direction everything is supposed to move. For event video, where things just happen, manual is just bracing for errors. Especially with revealing resolution of 4k.

        • fanboy fagz

          sorry, all wedding videogs shoot manual focusing

          • Eric Calabros

            Yes, because AF sucks, and their $3000 camera can’t touch-focus as their $500 smartphone does. (D500 gonna have this feature though).

            • jason Keefer

              Canon 70d has had it for a while…… It’s pretty amazing.

        • Alan Peterson

          People shooting ENG, sports, wildlife and events professionally focus manually. There’s no way a camera’s processor can know for sure what you want to focus on, and smooth, accurate AF focus tracking is science fiction at this point.

          • fanboy fagz

            I think he means that hed like it to move to AF but the reality of it is, its not even close to being there. manual focus is what people will do for a long time. I have never seen anyone focus manually. in ANY wedding. its not reliable and certainly not accurate. I see many use external monitors for precise focus and many who moved to sony A7 line for the focus peaking. I think gh line has it as well. nikon needs to implement that pronto. fuck zebra. its worthless. give me peaking to confirm my eyesight.

            • marokero

              I gave up waiting for Nikon to implement focus peaking, or for Nikon Hacker to find a way to do it. Got an older SmallHD DP4 and enjoy focus peaking on a much larger screen 🙂

            • fanboy fagz

              I know. its ridiculous. fuck basics. focus peaking sound levels..just simple things. fuck zebra doesnt help for anything. theyre soo back with video.

            • PhilK

              And this is why I keep telling people that hoping for Nikon to all the sudden “get” video and cinematography is more or less a pipedream. It’s not in their DNA, they don’t have a history with it and are generally not very interested in it beyond sticking whatever features people think should be in DSLRs these days and that’s that.

            • fanboy fagz

              exactly. canon is a video company as well. they been making videocams for a long time.

            • fanboy fagz

              exactly. canon is a video company as well. they been making videocams for a long time.

          • true

            “movie AF sucks”, well maybe for dslrs. It’s very good and fast with panasonic, and maybe sony cameras too.

            My GX8 has instantaneous AF in 1080 mode. In 4k mode it’s slower though. But still better than D810.

            • fanboy fagz

              not to offend but really, I dont hold much respect for northup. what he says isnt relevant to the pro world. there may be an odd af videog user here and there but goto forums like dvx user and ask. the vast majority shoot manual focus. I have yet to see ANY PRO shoot in AF. never. and I work with a lot of pros

            • true

              It could be because they’re invested in FF glass, or they’re too afraid to try a GH4 (being that the sensor is smaller). Realistically speaking, I think GH4 is better option over samsung, because samsung you don’t have as many lenses, and while A7 has better low light performance in some cases, it lacks the quick AF the panasonic can bring even in video mode.

            • fanboy fagz

              I said above, there are many who use the GH series. one is a very good friend. I shot his brothers wedding. he uses g7 and 2- gh4 with the nebula 4000 gimbal.

        • fanboy fagz

          actually the style today is a lot of dslr shooters who do intercut shooting from a monopod and use even 135-200mm FL to get images of people from afar. nice selective focus. shooting “through” the crowd of people. the BG could be dancing 15m from the videog and he will shoot through the crowd on the dance floor with people moving left to right in front of him for dof. very nice footage.

          • fanboy fagz

            the ONLY one I know use auto focus is those who operate cranes at the weddings. yes fucking cranes! cammate and jimmy jibs. we have weddings with 600+ guests. lasting 13-15 hours. im just dead tired at the end.

      • marokero

        Agreed. In all of almost 700 weddings I shot, the video guys were manually focusing everything. The camera has no clue where you want the focus to be, or how you want to create a transition by going out of focus on purpose. Practice makes perfect. I think we all should go into manual focus some time, have a feel for the mechanical simplicity of that feature, and hone your vision.

        • Eric Calabros

          No human can compete with Eye-trackig AF (85mm lens is about to shoot people, right?) and for targets other than face/eyes, you should be able to touch-focus, with customizable transition speed. Playing with ring is so old school, and most of DSLR lenses don’t have a focus ring optimized for video. far from that.

          • PhilK

            Eye-tracking AF sounds really cool until you consider how many times you look at something through a viewfinder that you actually have no interest in focusing on for your stills or footage.

            EDIT: I just realized that you probably meant tracking the subject’s eyes, not eye-controlled focus as in what Canon had in some of their old EOS film cameras and (I think) Sony might have in some models.

        • PhilK

          Yeah, video is not as simple for autofocus, that’s for sure. So many things that a camera cannot predict you might want, and it is all constantly changing. I’d probably be manually focusing if I were shooting too. (Tho I haven’t historically done much with video myself.)

          But – I also used to sell a lot of video camcorders back in the day when I was in retail. ALL of them had autofocus, even back then when dinosaurs roamed the earth. So – for the “amateur / home movie” market, I’m sure autofocus is as popular as ever.

      • Aldo

        I think it depends on the type of video job you are booked for… or what you promise your customers. I offer my customers a simple straight forward one or two camera video service for their events. It is shot with either one or two video cameras in AF mode most of the time… Only time we use manual is when the camera has trouble focusing on its own… one example I can think of is DJ lights hitting the sensor…. but most of the time the AF seems ‘adequate’ if not perfect.

        I also do video clips (for sweet sixteens mostly)… Those are shot with DSLR cinematic style with full MF… but if my customers want their entire event shot in cinematic style… I refer them elsewhere to people like your videographers 🙂 .. Again it depends on what kind of work you sell I think.

        • fanboy fagz

          theres a budget for everyone. I understand your position. I personally dont shoot video but take a lot of interest in it as I do want to start shooting that as well. it depends on what you show to the clients. I explain what we do. I tell them the videogs (in short) technique and whats unique about it. I show them the parts in the video and explain what hes doing. they like that I share it with them. makes them feel like they know what to expect. but I personally have never ever seen any videog shoot af. and I work with many many photographers. you are the first ive heard of actually. but I guess doing something very specific for so long thats what youre used to seeing as the norm.

    • Aldo

      Man I use lose A LOT of shot to motion blur… that’s because I shoot handheld most of the time. I have to do 2-3 shot burst when I want to make sure I have a tack sharp one instead of reviewing.

      It’s all about the quality of the butter… creamy delicious bokeh with a good working VR and it may be worth hauling this ‘monster’.

  • fanboy fagz

    VC on 1.4!? holy crap. that would be a slap to mock nikon.

    -filter size will probably be big. dont care as I dont use filters. a big hood would be all I need

    -not sure nikons physical opening can handle VC at a 1.4 opening.

    -id even take a version with no VC thats priced at $800. doesnt have to have the ART build and weather sealing.

    -precise and fast AF (unlike the canon 1.2L) and no CA please.

    • Eric Calabros

      They can’t make it without lots of CA if their 35mm is the reference.
      Nikon patented a 85mm with VR long time ago, but nothing happened.

      • longzoom

        But some people just asking to make it affordable. It means underdeveloping and shortcomings – that is only the way to make it “affordable”. Do not do it cheap – too long to wait for really good 85mm VR. BTW, agree on your point on the 35mm.

  • Muhammed

    Wow, I know many of us are patiently waiting for Sigma to release an 85mm 1.4 Art and or 135mm but this looks like Tamron may beat them to it. This should be interesting because up until now Tamron’s latest primes were 1.8 and so difficult to directly compare to Sigma. For those who aren’t brand snobs, the latest Tamron and Sigma lenses are running up against the best from Nikon and Canon at a fraction of the price.

    I’m excited to see this new lens from Tamron and am hoping for spectacular results.

  • HD10

    Tamron needs good bokeh on this as a portrait lens.

  • Adam Brown

    Love the Nikon 85’s… But VC is a very nice addition…. If the Iq and price are close to the Nikon models, I might just feel compelled to switch.

    • HF

      To be honest, when doing portraits I need a minimum shutter speed most of the time anyway. 85 is just right in that I don’t need to have the shutter speed too high to avoid shake. For 135/2, I would find it useful on the other hand. So owing the 85/1.4g which is used for portraits only, I don’t see the need for VC.

      • Adam Brown

        My hands are very unsteady. I usually need to boost the shutter speed to 1/200 or faster for the 85. VC would let me use it more often for handheld indoor, flashless, shooting. Right now, I only use the 85 in outdoor daylight, or with speed lights.

        • outkasted

          try forearm exercises. IT WoRKS!!

          • Adam Brown

            Lol. Doesn’t fix my neurological tremor or arthritis.

  • Jeffnky

    I bought the 35 mm Tamron a few weeks ago and I have been very pleased with it.

    • PhilK

      What is that animal..?

    • Jarret O’Shea

      Where were you that you could get that close to a red panda?

      Also I can’t quite tell if it’s trying to give you a hug or about to smack the camera out of your hands.

      • Jeffnky

        Special access, I work for the zoo. She is checking out my thinktank belt pouches.

    • Jonathan

      Saw your comment about working at the zoo, VERY fortunate for you! I’ve only seen a few Red Pandas in person and they’re unbelievably adorable! That one however, looks like he/she is about to punch you in the chin! lol

      • Jeffnky

        She was just checking to make sure I didn’t have any apples in my bag like the keeper was giving her. It was an unexpected thrill to have her be very friendly and curious and she kept walking up to us.

  • Michael_Foley

    I’m probably going to sell my Nikon 135 f/2 DC for this. VC on an 85mm f/1.4 makes me weak at the knees.

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