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Reminder: Nikon D810 will start shipping tomorrow

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The Nikon D810 will start shipping tomorrow (see pre-order options). The new D810 Switch & Save” promotion is also starting on July 17th and will offer up to $1,000 in savings. Many stores have already received their first D810 shipments:

There is a new D810 promo video from Nikon Canada:

Another D810 promo video from Nikon Asia:

New Nikon D810 sample images taken at different ISO can be found at DC.Watch:

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  • Bruce

    Wow, looks very useable up to ISO 12,800. I hope folks will be happy with their D810. Fingerscrossed there are no focus (or other) issues this time.

    • Jason

      I agree that 12,800 is useable. I -would- like to see some high ISO shots actually taken in low light and not well lit conditions because that is the point of pushing ISO after all.

      • Eric Calabros

        Dont expect a jump in DxO score
        There is less color noise, and also less details
        @ISO 12800

        • photoroto

          Umh, not all test setups are created equal, and not all test lenses are focused accurately.

          • Eric Calabros

            I checked it again and I think that “less details” is just “less sharpening”

        • Vin

          Thanks, this is interesting for the first compared higher iso image

    • marketing pull

      I just love the stacked boxes… make me want to get one!
      (but patiently waiting on D900)

      • Aldo

        I’m curious as to what you are hoping for on the d900… I mean it’s gonnna be a while before you can do 10fps @ 36mp and I see very little that can be further improved… 4k video? better white balance maybe?

        • Jon McGuffin

          I agree, from a photographic perspective I’m not sure what could really be improved in the next year or two. Eventually, the mirror less wave will likely catch up with DSLR’s, so my guess is the long term future is going to be about power in a small size.

          With that said, things like GPS, Wi-Fi (that is useable and really works), and other UI enhancements could in fact be enticing. I want to shoot photos with my professional DSLR and have them “magically” appear in a folder in my phone labeled “pro photos” and then be able to upload them to FB, show them to clients, etc. Yes, picture controled .jpg’s for this purpose is just fine. It should just ‘happen’ and if that were something that was part of the next generation of cameras, and it was fast and worked, I’d be inclined to go another round with DSLR’s, but the D810 from what I can tell is a camera that could really last a long long time making fantastic imagery (ala the D700).

          • photoroto

            My feeling is the D810 will be my last DSLR. Mirrorless systems will prevail since they are much cheaper to manufacture while manufacturing costs rise rapidly. We see the beginning of that in the move to Thailand, which is writing on the wall. Will be another 4 or 5 years before I do my next upgrade, by then cameras will probably be a whole different animal. I’m gonna bet video will be much more important than now, like or not.

            • Jon McGuffin

              I agree with this statement 100%. I’m actually planning on this being my last DSLR and open to changing my mind. I rented a Fuji XT-1 to see what all the fuss was about. I came away from that experienced with mixed feelings, but frankly can see the future in this type of camera system for sure. It’s time we get the size and weight down of our camera systems. The power and ability for modern day cameras (DSLR’s or Mirrorless) is here. Digital is trumping film now in all areas film was just a short time ago still considered superior (I’m speaking to you Dynamic Range). I want the same power in a smaller, lighter package and I doubt I’m alone.

        • LarryC

          My D800 has had some problems that required trips to Nikon, but I still wouldn’t part with it, and the D810 deliver what I need. I would like to see a D900 (or D820, etc.) with an AF system with more than 51 points and spread out over more of the image area, one hand ISO control, an even quieter shutter and focus peaking and RF-based CLS.

          • JJ168

            Your wish for the one hand ISO control is already delivered via the latest firmware. You can assigned your video record button to it.

          • photoroto

            Focus peaking is nice, and my only disappointment in the D810 specs. My GH4 has it, and it’s the first time I have felt truly confident about manual focusing since my ancient film Nikons were equipped with microprism screens. Would gladly trade zebra bars for focus peaking, sigh. Only time Live View can really beat focus peaking is on low contrast horizon lines, which don’t peak well. Otherwise, most subjects suitable for sharp focus peak quite nicely. And focus peaking shows you at a quick glance how your depth of field is draped over the scene, how cool is that?

          • Aldo

            I hope nikon listens to you

        • Reality Check

          Nothing to improve? Let’s show some visionary thinking, shall we? How about…

          1. Built in Wifi

          2. Custom banks replaced by U1-U7

          3. EVF/OVF Hybrid

          4. On sensor PDAF for video tracking

          5. Wider PDAF viewfinder coverage

          6. More (all) PDAF points being cross type

          7. Expanded AF micro adjust settings to compensate for aperture shift, zoom lenses

          8. A new PDAF system with the design tolerances to support high density sensors… the current one was designed for 12 MP

          9. A new PDAF system with the design tolerances to support reproducible focusing at f/1.4 (a Nikon weakness since 2007)
          10. Am exposure histogram in Live View and (if EVF cabable) in OVF
          Nikon has been able to get away with iterating for the last seven years instead of innovating because of the low expectations of users like you.

          • Innovating

            you forgot the direct link to net flix and porn…

          • Aldo

            built in wifi? really? The rest of your column is nice but not necessary… .especially for a 3k camera. Perhaps a good improvement would be on the video side….. to be able to operate it much like a video camera… but even so… not necessary. I think what you want is a mirrorless camera… but that’s a completely different monster.

            • Reality Check

              6 of the 10 suggestions above relate to well established focus weaknesses that Nikon users have complained about for years. Just because you don’t own expensive zooms or f/1.4 glass (and won’t benefit from improvements in PDAF capability and control) doesn’t relegate such as “nice to have” for the rest of us. The D810 may be all YOU ever need, but it is hardly perfect as you tried to suggest… unless you’re intending to be known as fanboy, of course.

          • julianliues

            What? EVF/OVF hydrid? The mirror is built in specifically to give you the best OVF! Why the hack you want to have EVF? If you want EVF in a DSLR, why don’t you get a mirrorless camera.

            • Reality Check

              The existing OVF can’t display a live histogram nor a frame around the face that the camera detected and is focused on. The EVF in mirrorless cameras clearly trumps DSLR’s in this regard and it’s unwise for Nikon to ignore their disadvantage here. More innovative camera companies like Fuji have already developed ways to integrate the advantages of both OVF and EVF. Bur Nikon can no longer innovate, it can only iterate with newer sensors from Sony. Sad.

            • Squidward

              Not all of us shoot in auto. I choose what to focus on. I’m in control, not the camera.

            • julianliues

              If EVF is better than OVF, then why do you need OVF? Particularly in DSLR. It’s the OVF one of the main reason DSLR more bulky and expensive than mirrorless camera. I am not saying EVF is not good, I have not used EVF so I cannot comment. It just does not make sense to have an EVF in DSLR if it’s better than OVF and you spend some much time and money to build a OVF in it.

    • marketing pull

      I just love the stacked boxes… make me want to get one!
      (but patiently waiting on D900)

    • give it to us!

      They need to give D800 a software upgrade to handle ISO 12800… it may ran slower at expeed 3… but people can be aware of this limitation before they download the upgrade.

      • Aldo

        they say it’s a different sensor though…

      • Jon McGuffin

        The assumption that software can just magically improve a camera is one I never really understand why people so ignorantly just assume.

        • its software

          1 stop ISO = software
          hardware = significant improvement and cost, and not for delta- increment models

          It naive to assume others are ignorant…

        • Global

          Isn’t it ignorant to assume they are ignorant?

          Who says they are ignorant? The stronger usability is based on JPEG, not RAW, based on Nikon’s claims. Its software based. You won’t see much of a difference in the RAW, meaning its software, not hardware.

          So when someone suggests they wouldn’t mind waiting a micro-second longer for it to process, its not necessarily ignorant.

    • Bokeh Monk

      Ya know, back in the film days, results from the iso25600 would be considered acceptable !

      • Global

        And you had to walk through the snow to get your shot. And it snowed twice as much, because there wasn’t any of this namby pamby global warming thinning the ice on you! And you had no legs, because everyone lost their legs in the big war, so you pulled your bodies on the ground with one arm, while the other arm held your camera above your head, just to get that perfect shot! And that’s the way you liked it!

        • Bokeh Monk

          Yup, like in the good old days when trolls only appeared in nursery rhymes !

    • koenshaku

      after ISO 100 the images look soft I wonder if he lost focus or something.

      • Aldo

        maybe… 3200 looks sharper than some of the lower ISO

    • Reality Check

      One thing for sure, I’ll wait and let somebody else test the D810 for QC issues first (not me). We saw 20-30% of the first D800′s having Left AF focus issues and 50%-70% of the D600′s having faulty shutters so it is pretty clear Nikon can no longer be trusted to release flawless product on release.

    • Jon McGuffin

      Useable I think is one of those relative terms that is pretty subjective based on end use of the image, etc. The goal here is that simply the D810 provides some measurable and quantifiable advantage over the D800 in terms of Dynamic Range and Noise at equivalent ISO’s. Provided it’s determined better in each case, we have a real winner IMO.

  • DafOwen

    Interestingly Amazon UK still don’t list the D810.
    800 and 800E are not in stock by Amazon themselves either.

    I was one of the lucky/observant ones that picked up a D800 when it dipped in price on Amazon before Nikon UK raised the prices. Maybe trying to avoid this again.

  • Q.T.

    I wish Canon would make a superior image sensor so I can ditch my D800E. I hate dealing with Nikon and their bullcrap. There is no excuse for Nikon fucking up with the D800/D800E the way they did only to make this $3300 fix. It’s the same crap they did with the defective D600. The D800/E’s shutter system was all wrong from the start (vibration, lag, noisy), processor was wrong (blocky artifacts & jagged edges), focusing system was all wrong (probably could not fit into the camera body so they just shoehorned in in there anyway which would explain why focusing is usually off as if the sensor is on an angle both horizontally & vertically) and the camera grip… THE CAMERA GRIP IS tinny and awkward (will cramp your right hand). Nikon knew the D800/E had these problems but decided to try and double up by selling the crap first then fix it later and sell the fixed version to the same customers. They did the same with the D4/D4s, D600/D610 and now the D800/D800E / D810. I refuse to give nikon any more of my money. I will sell use my D800e until it explodes in my hand or sell it. Sigma makes superior primes, Canon makes better zooms so if Canon decides to make a multilayer sensor that works well then I will go with Canon.

    • Michiel953

      Hope you feel better now QT. Why don’t you take a nice liedown?

    • http://www.synthetic.se Daniel Roos

      Wow, you are so full of crap that I even think you almost believe yourself.

      Canon making better zooms? What are you high on? Canon doesn’t even have anything close to the stats of the 14-24, you must be using the consumer level zooms, but then again why are you using them on your D800. D4/D4s having the same fix as D600/D610? Have you ever even used a D4? Focusing system all wrong? Hah, your eyes seems all wrong.
      Please go away troll. Please leave for Canon so you can start trolling their websites instead.

    • priority

      The time you too to write this rant, you could have purchased a canon with sigma lens – and move on

    • http://www.metconphotos.com/ Christopher Nolan

      Wow, funny, my D800, like 99.9999999% of people that purchased one, was perfect, i guess you were part of the 00.0000001%. Oh, and i m purchasing an D810

    • nwcs

      Absurd. When I had my D800 it was a superb camera. Just wasn’t what I wanted long term.

    • koenshaku

      The same logic can apply to Canon 5d Mark II with it’s focusing issues and saying they fixed it with the mark III. It is called advances in technology. Besides many of your points are unfounded nonsense and should not warrant customer dissatisfaction in owning a D800E if you did any amount of research before buying the product.

    • ZoetMB

      I have the D800 (not the “E”) and haven’t had a single problem with it. I bought it relatively late, so I didn’t have the focusing problem. The focusing isn’t great for video, but that might be my technique, and everything else about the camera is exactly as expected or better. If I had any wishes at all for the camera, it would be to have the exact same camera in a smaller, lighter body and of course, everyone would wish for a lesser price. I do find Nikon’s better lenses to be very expensive, but everyone else’s seem to be just as, if not more expensive.

      I do agree that Nikon’s customer service is generally poor (as is their marketing).

      I really don’t think that the D810 was about fixing the D800′s problems the way that the D610 replaced the D600, since most D800′s don’t have any problems – rather it was simply to say that they had something new in the market after 2 1/2 years and to up the price. Your comment about the D4/D4s is absurd. There’s nothing wrong with companies releasing slightly improved models after a time. I’ve never understood why customers of any brand think that when a vendor puts out an improved model that it either reflects that the older model is no good or that they’re expected to buy it. It’s not for you (although Nikon certainly wouldn’t mind if you bought it). It’s for new buyers and upgraders and for those who need an additional body. If Nikon was truly about continuous improvement, there might be a D815 next year. That doesn’t mean the D810 isn’t good.

      But if you’re so unhappy about Nikon that you want to switch brands, go ahead. I have to admit that I’m intrigued by Sony’s A7 line and if they release some more lenses and make some improvements to the bodies, my next camera in a few years just might be that Sony. But it doesn’t mean I have rage at Nikon.

    • Reality Check

      At best the D810 fixes the Left AF issue at the production level. The rest of the improvements are largely new liptstick on Grandma.
      The one thing that would justify anyone upgrading from a working D800 or D800e is sadly not there. No next generation AF system… the D810 basically still has a 2007 era PDAF system whose tolerances were designed to support 12 MP.

      • yup

        yup! no need to buy if one has D800 or E
        Good for new full-framers

    • umeshrw

      Yes. Yes . We understand. You hate nikon for everything they made to date. And everybody else – especially canon – makes everything better. You should not overdo the hate thing if you want to be taken seriously. Bloody canon troll.

    • gpelpel

      Either you never have used a D800 or don’t know how to use a camera. But probably both.

  • Matty B

    Thanks for the remnder

    • j j

      You are welcme

      • Me

        He’s talking to me.

  • sleider

    Will be the nikon wt5 sufficient in order to transfer wirelessly images to ipad mini retina (dont wana buy this bulky ut1 if not necessary….)

    Any thougths will it work with the huge NEF files of the d810..???

    So wt5 is relatively small but nevertheless we have to pay 500 euro bucks more….

    Could anybody tell me if the wt5a and d810 will work for wireless worklfow/transfer of pictures? Is it possible to control the functions of the camera if the camera control pro 2 software is installed on the ipad?

    Or do i have to have the ut1 for remote controlling the camera functions?

  • nikonfakerumours

    I have to LOL at your fake ‘embargo’ letter.
    You really must think people are that stupid to think it’s real.
    This is a joke website without any credibility and I only come here for giggles when I’m really bored.

    • http://www.davidkasman.com/ David Kasman

      Why not go to another website then? There are about a billion others.

    • http://www.gradyphoto.com/ Pete Grady

      But, you’re here posting a comment? It appears the joke’s on you.

  • Alex

    Question to D800/D800E owners!
    I noticed at the first pic (002.jpg at 100%) of DC.Watch review some (probably minor) moiré.
    What do you think?
    thanks

    • Jason

      I don’t see it. If that is a 100% crop and it’s that minor, its certainly not going to show up in a print. And that is the end goal of photography right?

      • Alex

        this is just a low resolution crop of the picture to show (red arrows) where the moiré is. To see it you have to go to the DC.Watch page and click on the picture to enlarge it…

      • Alex

        100% crops

        • Aldo

          it looks more like color noise to me… I’m sure the same picture taken by a canon would show this issue 10 times worse… this is one of their main complains… shadow/dark area noise.

          • Global

            Looks like Moire to me. You can see stripes.

        • fjfjjj

          Looks like moirée.

      • Jon McGuffin

        One could argue that in the digital/social media age, that print is no longer the only important medium images are being distributed by and that online viewing may in fact have as much weight or more than print.

        I’m the first one to appreciate a nice printed image, but I can tell you I view 10,000 x more images online with appreciation and admiration than I do in my hand. It’s just the way it is…

        • photoroto

          OTOH, one single print sold is more important to the author than any number of prints given away online. Online prestige does not buy D810′s.

          • Global

            It does if it leads people to your website to make purchases or to contract with you for assignments.

            • photoroto

              Mebbe. Most inquiries I get from the web are from people wanting to buy prints for $19.95, just like they see at Hobby Lobby. Or from people wanting full sized digital files, for which they will reward me with an on-screen credit. Or from calendar companies offering a whopping $8 per image for an unlimited license, gotta love those! Galleries and art fairs and other “live” venues account for around 90% of my profitable business, internet referrals maybe 5. But forget forums, NOBODY buys art because they saw it on a forum!

            • Jon McGuffin

              That’s a blanket statement I’m not sure can be backed up. Are you certain not one time in the history of the world this has occurred?

              Aside from that, has not one photography been hired and paid for work based on what they presented with their work online? Could it not be said that a great many of photographers are in fact hired for the work they present online? If so, that satisfies my argument that presenting working online can (and does) in fact pay.

            • photoroto

              Sorry, I forgot to take my pills. I encourage every photographer working in my field to labor hard and long perfecting their internet sites.

      • Global

        I think it just indicates that this camera will likely have more Moire than the D800E. Thats a very small amount of moire in a very small area. But a larger and more complicated situation might cause even more moire and much more obvious.

        I’m not sure we can say anything about Moire based on this photo alone. But I would guess that this is what it looks like when the Nikon software is trying to cover up moire. It looks like rainbow stripes to me. Not random enough to be color noise. And I doubt the brick layers were going for striped colors. So its likely moire.

    • photoroto

      I often get that level of minor moire from my low pass filtered camera bodies.

    • Carleton Foxx

      I get moire with my D7000 when shooting grey plaid business suits in certain lighting. I think it’s a fact of life now.

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      Pixels peeped. I can live with that. I’m not even sure that it is moiré.

      If it wasn’t pointed out, I would never have seen it.

    • Michiel953

      Can’t see it. But then, I’m three quarters blind anyway. Now where’s my D400 (fumbling around in the dark)?

  • http://www.gradyphoto.com/ Pete Grady

    Peter, what out for those missing “i”s

    • tarakanchik

      what?

      • Michiel953

        whiat

        • Michiel953

          Oh, whait!

  • KS

    If George’s Camera got an initial shipment of 27, I wonder how many for B&H, Adorama, and other high-volume sellers?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      probably at least 1000

      • photoroto

        I can confirm 1000, since I am on the waiting list at 1001. Yesterday Amazon was reporting the D810 was their 10th best selling DSLR, after 6 Canons and 4 Nikons. Can that be right?

        • KS

          Adorama won’t tell me where I’m in the queue, but I ordered within 5 hrs of going live–we’ll see.

          • photoroto

            Feel happy that there are many last minute cancellations on pre-orders for hot items, as people get nervous about possible issues or their finances. So all we need to do is start some really ugly tech rumour and bingo, we’re at the top of the list! Let’s see…the image on the D810 sensor is upside down! And there is shadow noise at ISO’s above 6400!

            I’ll bet you a scratched 52mm UV filter your camera ships tomorrow.

            • Global

              ^The first wave of D810′s are already reportedly having the new shutter mechanism fail. The mirror locks into place and won’t come back down.

              I would wait on my order if I was you and see if a firmware update can fix this!

            • photoroto

              Am also hearing ominous reports about inadequate shutter vibration when using long lenses. Call B&H & cancel while you can!

          • KS

            Update: I just checked my order status: Adorama says it is packed and will ship on Friday. I pre-ordered mine on June 26, noon Eastern time.

  • Bavarian

    Wonder how the High ISo would look like with NR on ?
    Or how ISO 25000 would look like after a little post-production with Lightroom or C1P

    • Jon McGuffin

      NR settings in the camera body don’t apply when shooting RAW images FWIW.

      • Bavarian

        You got me wrong. Normaly this tests are made with ether JPEG out of the box with NR of. Or RAW converted to JEPG with no NR. So you see what the body is able to do. But i think nearly all People shooting in RAW and do Postproduction. So it would be intersting what LR or C1P could do with this files without loosing to much information. Hope its clear now.

    • photoroto

      You mean, if you have this web page loaded, you will get less noise? I would never have thought to associate this site with low noise levels!

  • alex

    Not in europe, (austria) nikon Austria is shipping since yesterday. The stores, like propartners and flagshipstores, have it on stock!!! It seems like Nikon learned from the d800 chaos an everybody who want this cam will get it in the next few weeks :)

    • photoroto

      Those Austrians sure know how to party! If there are any D810′s left over, send them to Albuquerque, please.

    • jefferylewis

      throw another shrimp on the barbie, mate!

  • photoroto

    I do believe that Teddy bear is drooling! Maybe I’ll boogy on down to the (one and only remaining) local store to check the action.

  • 99%

    I really wish that I had the money to buy a D810 and a lens to compliment it. These cameras and all the prime lens you all talk about and then purchase are just so expensive. I have no idea how you do it.

    Yea, I’m one of those Average Joe type guys that can afford a D7000 and a Sigma 150-500. Not sour grapes, really just envious.

    • photoroto

      I make my entire living from landscape photography. Like most of my professional brethren, cameras like this and the lenses to make them sing are within reach because they are tools of the trade. If it weren’t for those gallery checks, I’d be using a refurb D7000 with a merely OK lens, and would be happy for it.

      You can always turn pro! But don’t say I didn’t warn you. Hint: if you buy used gear, you can usually resell it near purchase cost to pay the bills. One of professional photography’s grandest traditions.

      • photoroto

        John is right.

        Forgot to say, the D7000 is a darned fine camera with amazing dynamic range, and with the same resolution as the D4s. It’s my primary backup, and in certain depth-of-field sensitive situations I prefer it to my D800e.

        If you want imagery that can give the D810 a run for the money, slap a cheap-as-dirt 50 f1.8 or 55mm f2.8 AIS lens on your D7000, and you’ll be competing in image quality with D810′s equipped with less-sharp zooms. Provided you don’t over-sharpen, and you go easy on noise reduction, and you stay away from those dirtball filter effects.

    • Jon McGuffin

      The more I shoot the more I realize that you don’t need a D810 and all the fancy primes to make great pictures. Work the light, shoot with good technique, compose well, and magic happens. Your tools are frankly better than the ones that all the photographers had prior to the turn of the century (essentially). They made fantastic pictures back then with lesser equipment.

      With that said, I’m going to upgrade my D700 to a D810 as I really do believe this now is finally the true upgrade to my body leaving almost nothing wanting other than larger than desired file sizes; a minor quibble considering I get an amazing cropping ability if needed in return.

      • Michiel953

        Cropping is for farmers. Careful framing isn’t. Use those megapixels.

        • Harv.

          Cropping is one of those divisive things in photography. There’s no common ground, personally I crop in viewfinder as it’s the way I take images, others see it differently.
          It is quite astounding when you find out how much some images are cropped. The cropping in this well known photograph by Magnum photographer Elliot Erwitt is a great example.
          © Elliot Erwitt Magnum

          • Jon McGuffin

            Cropping an image in post IMO is no different than editing an image in post. It’s about the final artwork and presentation. Sometimes you’re sitting on the end of a cliff and you can’t crop in the viewfinder without falling to your death. Sometimes you’re backed up against a wall. Your behind a crowd of people. There’s nothing wrong with cropping IMO and it doesn’t make you less of a photographer if you do.

            • Michiel953

              The cropping alluded to was the “I can’t handle the megapixels, can’t frame either, but can crop” type of inaneness. Not really the same thing.

            • Justtakethepicture

              You have clearly never worked with an enlarger back in the days of film, or earned your living from photography. Cropping images to achieve the desired look is quite normal amongst professionals.

              The high pixel count of these cameras allow professionals to have the leeway they once had when working with film.

            • Michiel953

              “Clearly”?

            • Jon McGuffin

              I agree and respect the attitude to approach photography without cropping in mind. I *never* in fact do this. But to suggest that because I take a frame and later decide to crop it because I think the cropped version presents itself better, that doesn’t make me a less than great photographer just as it didn’t when Ansel Adams dodged and burned his images into beauty or Elliot Magnum saw a crop in one of his images to make it stand out.

              Like those who say it’s not the camera that matters, it’s the end picture. I too say it’s not he fact of whether you cropped or didn’t crop that matters, it’s the end picture.

          • Michiel953

            “Divisive”? Who’s on the other side of the divide then?

            • Harv.

              The opposite of people who crop a lot after taking the image, ie those who crop in camera and show the whole frame.

          • photoroto

            Extreme off center cropping upsets perspective and should not be allowed outside high school photo classes, except where it is used as a part of the photographer’s strategy. Or if you’re as good a photographer as Elliot Erwitt. IMHO.

            Erwitt probably backed symmetrically away in that photo for two reasons:

            1. To get a more telephoto perspective at the cost of cropping. ie equalize the relative size of dog and shoes.

            2. To place both the shoes and foo-foo within the available depth of field, which would have been exceeded on a tighter shot.

            Both those were common practices with 6×6 cameras, especially fixed lens Rolleis etc.

            • Harv.

              I don’t know, you’d have to ask the man himself.
              I was showing how a well known image was severely cropped, not why it was cropped.

            • photoroto

              Sorry Harv, got carried away there, I’m good at that. I shoot mainly wide landscapes and sometimes architecture where the perspective unbalance from asymmetrical cropping shows up like a sore thumb. Cropping has its place and can be used where it helps the story enough to outweigh quality compromises.

            • KnightPhoto

              Hmm now you’ve got me curious, I’m gonna try some off centre cropping and get me some of that upset perspective ;-)

            • KnightPhoto

              Actually I did a couple off-centre crops tonight for a gig I’m PP’ing, but they happen to be from a 15mm fisheye, so it’s a little hard to tell the perspective thing ;-)

              Interesting about your business and in-person sales, Thanks

          • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

            Awesome example, Harv.

          • KnightPhoto

            Wow look at the moire in the (film) shot to the left on the contact sheet ;-)

        • Jon McGuffin

          haha, of course. But isn’t the flexability to crop (if you must) a benefit? Certainly enough to invalidate the argument that 36Mp is too much and the file sizes are too big. At least there is a positive coming from it yes?

          • Michiel953

            Cropping isn’t high on my list of priorities. Careful framing is.

  • photoroto

    That Nikon Canada video looks pretty good! If you like the smokey-shadowed “cinematic look” which is briefly done well in the scene at 1:54. That awesome D8xx dynamic range seems to extend to the D810 video mode. They got a little carried away with the 60P thing, however.

  • Mike Hunt

    Can’t wait to throw my 18-55 on this bad boy.

    • Rau Muống Xào Tỏi

      It’s a great lense to be used on this bad-ass camera. Time to blow the minds of other canon fan boys with your gear.

  • Carleton Foxx

    I ordered mine last week from B&H. What are the chances I’ll get it in the first batch?

    • John

      very very unlikely; I placed my order only 30 minutes after it was available for pre-order and I’m being told not in line for the 1st batch :) This is B&H

      • http://www.seandiazphotos.com Sean Diaz

        Got my order in a few hours after pre-order started and I just received shipping confirmation from B&H for mine!

    • http://www.metconphotos.com/ Christopher Nolan

      I ordered mine from MidWest Photo exchange a 2 hours ago, placed via the phone because i received and email saying they had them in stock, and I wanted to make sure they really had them. I called, he pulled one off the shelf, and it is going out UPS overnight to me today, . . . will have it by 10am tomorrow. NICE!

  • Michiel953

    Mark my words. Future generations will classify the D800/E as an “allright” camera, whilst the D810 will be seen as a “classic”.

    • photoroto

      The D820 will then have to be the “greatest camera of all time.” At which point Nikon will have no choice but to pack it in due to having achieved Nirvana.

      • Zoot

        Perhaps they’ll call it the Nikon Nirvana.
        I think I’ll wait for the Nikon Nirvana Ten.

  • gpelpel

    Wow! I like the Eiffel Tower shot comparison as it shows well lighted elements which are easier for the camera to handle and a dark sky where noise is a major issue at high ISO.
    When applying Nik Define even 12,800 looks really good. No need for noise reduction up to ISO 1600. Up to 6400 looks great after noise reduction. ISO 25,600 still noisy after noise reduction but usable.

  • Kdawg

    This thing isnt even worth talking about. Nikon will be gone in 5 years and nobody will really care very much.

    • JT

      How utterly ridiculous…besides cameras and lenses, are you even aware of what Nikon manufactures?

    • KnightPhoto

      Hmm Nikon puts out 5 of the best cameras the world has ever seen in the last 28 months (D4, D4S, D800, D800E, D810) and now they are going out of business – how ironic if you end up being right.

    • photoroto

      I’LL CARE! Who’s gonna fix my damned D810?

      And what about the D400? Do you think Nikon will just give up on that? Huh?

  • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist
    • HF

      Nice! At ISO 12800 a comparison shows indeed better performance of the D810, it looks as good as ISO 6400 on the D800E, so it could be that the claim of one stop better performance is true.

      • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

        I have to agree with Alex. While I haven’t studied the Raw data, these JPEGs look to have a higher level of noise reduction applied.

        While I’ll be happy to have a bit lower noise, it’s not the main reason I want one.

        • HF

          That’s why I wrote “could be”. I hope it to be better than the D800E. But I like electronic first curtain shutter, group autofocus and higher resolution LCD.

        • Alex

          i checked NX-D and it looks a bit cleaner but not too much.
          But there is something strange. Take a look for example at the red fabrics, the detail of D800 is much better. Actually details are better for D810 only at some bottle labels. Seems strange, but the light is not consistent on the two tests, there is also a small difference in the placement of bottles, and probably different focusing point.
          I thinκ we should wait simultaneously tests of the two cameras for real conclusions…

          • HF

            Read Thom Hogans opinion on preliminary D800/D810 comparisons on his homepage today. I agree with him that one needs to be careful with first tests of this new camera.

    • Alex

      i checked raw files (Iridient dev) between D800 and D810 in 1600 and 6400 iso, and i think the difference in noise is very small, you have to look for it to find any…

    • http://behance.net/coloretric coloretric

      Cheers better than my hasty crops :P

  • http://behance.net/coloretric coloretric

    Ok so just had a play with a production model in store (Australia). Seems an improvement on the D800/E by far for me the most impressive were about 1 stop improvement in ISO performance and the grip is far better. It actually fits the hand. A colleague of mine purchased one on the spot. So far I’m very impressed. Will see if I can get some samples up asap (just out of the office atm)

  • PGi

    Got it two days back in Tokyo but it is not any better than the d800e raw , it is a stop better in jpeg but I never use jpeg.

  • Alex

    Street prices (including VAT) in Greece: Nikon D800 at 2330 euros, (D800E at 2990 euros), and D810 at 3200 euros !!! In US the difference is almost 300 dollars if I’m not mistaken.
    Even though the extras of D810 are quite few, and some really useful and welcome, the image quality between the two cameras doesn’t justify a 860 euros price gap.
    The strange thing is that after a while D800/E will be discontinued (the street price of D610 is at 1600 euros).
    So either Nikon is continuing the aggressive price policy that started with Df, or they making space for something else like a D710 maybe?

    • Christos

      I hope so Alex!

  • julianliues

    Amazon shows D810 is already sold out! Looks like it’s unusually popular! I pre-ordered on B&H on release day, have not got confirmation they shipped my camera yet. Does that mean I will be on their next shipment list?

    • sammy

      I ordered 45 minutes after the pre-order link became active in B&H. I just got shipping confirmation.

      • julianliues

        What time was the link active? I ordered around 10 am central time. I checked, it was still not active at 4 am on that day.

        • KS

          From what I saw, the pre-order button @ Adorama and B&H went live around 12am the 26th.

      • julianliues

        Lol, I just got confirmation mine was shipped as well!

    • Carleton Foxx

      And mine is supposed to be delivered on the 22nd from B&H.

    • KS

      I pre-ordered my @ Adorama just before Noon ET the 26th. I just got an email saying my D810 will ship on Friday.

  • http://www.metconphotos.com/ Christopher Nolan

    MidWest Photo Exchange has them IN-STOCK, just phone ordered one 3 minutes ago, … he had the camera in-hand:
    http://mpex.com/nikon-d810-fx-format-digital-slr-camera-body-only.html

  • rgracia

    Disappointed that no one in NYC has these in stock today. Went to B & H this AM and they were looking at me like I had six heads. Some release day! I miss the small stores that would get actual shipments like those shown up there.

    • JT

      It is likely their whole first shipment has covered by orders before today. After all, it’s been over 3 weeks since pre-ordering went live at B&H, Adorama, Amazon, etc.

  • Jorge

    Well I wasn’t going to get one as I already have a D800 and a D700 plus two Fuji’s but I was poking around online and Bestbuy actually has them in stock so I’m picking it up after work tonight. What the heck? I can always sell my D800 and D700 right?

    • http://www.gradyphoto.com/ Pete Grady

      You could spend your time making photographs…but, uh, that could take some thought.

  • photoroto

    Doh! D810′s are on the shelf at 4 BestBuys within a short drive. But not a peep out of the boys at B&H, who have my pre-order. Is there a moral here?

    • Carleton Foxx

      Yes. Have faith. Cameras from B&H come with good karma pre-installed.

      • photoroto

        Hard choice: a camera now, or karma later.

        Bestbuy says they have 5 D810′s, just at my local store. And can they hold one for me? 5 D810′s just sitting there and nobody is buying them. Unbelievable.

  • Michiel953

    Handling one tomorrow I hope. The better grip is probably the first thing I’ll notice; that was a bit of a let down changing up from the D700 to my current D800.

    My D800 produces soft (“smooth”) sharpness; a Df/D4 produces more acuity. What will the D810 do? Any D800E user can probably tell me…

    • photoroto

      Well, the D800e produces sharpness that is both smooth and acute, for up to pretty large prints. And of course you can influence sharpness by how you post process, and your choice of subject, and your choice of print media, if that’s what you’re doing.

      For the D800e, make a few prints without any LR sharpening whatsoever before you touch those sliders, because less sharpening is better with that camera, as opposed to the D4 which can routinely benefit from a ‘tich o’ sharpen.

      I would be willing to say that a D4 print made to about 2/3 the linear dimensions of a D800e print, with minimal sharpening on both, would present very similarly as to edge quality and apparent sharpness. And to actually SEE pixel-level detail in a D800e print, you would need to go 30 x 45 inches on smooth paper, with your printer set a super resolution. Assuming you shot with a rare, decent prime lens, because D800e’s with zoom lenses hanging on them are wasted. Should learn to keep my mouth shut.

      • Michiel953

        Thanks photoroto. I shoot only with the 1.4G primes: 24, 35, 58 and 85. They’re sharp.

        I tried the Df a while ago with my 24 and found the images gave an almost bitingly sharp impression. Nice enough for some aituations, but probably not something I’d want all the time.

        I used LR4 default sharpening settings for my D800 for about a year and then switched to 60/0.7/40/10. The difference is quite small, which I guess underlines the quality of the files.

        • photoroto

          Nice lens collection, I use the same set but in old hand-picked AIS Nikkors since I do a lot of manual focus stacking which requires a non-slip focus ring.

          I think I know what you mean with “biting” sharpness and I often seen that with cameras in the 20mp range. It’s like edges are ALMOST smooth enough to work without much sharpening, and when you do apply sharpening is creates a kind of subtle serrated-knife feel which comes off as a little too much.

          Those 36mp sensors give you clean, smooth edges which I have found will show up ghosting along contrasty edges from even tiny amounts of sharpening. Ironically, when I print on very sharp papers like the Barytas I find I get better and sharper looking images with almost zilch sharpening, but I still need to lay sharpening on pretty thick for mushy media like canvas or any kind of fine art paper with texture.

          Got the D810. The electronic shutter is totally awesome with the 400mm, which I basically had to leave on the shelf with the D800e unless I wanted to mess around with bungees and support bars and spacers out in the field.

          • Michiel953

            Photoroto, I totally get your description of sharpness, couldn’t have put it better. I’m only an amateur, printing only occurs once in a year.
            I had 15 minutes with the D810 today, my 58 fitted, but forgot to set RAW (nervous?), so Jpeg’s only. First impressions: AF dead right straightaway, no finetuning required. That’s a big plus for me. Smooth shutter, that’s a plus. Slightly better viewfinder. Better grip.

            That’s 15 minutes.

            • Michiel953

              Ps: I’ve got a lot of those AiS’s as well; 24/2.8, 28/2.8, 35/2.0, 50/1.8, 50/1.4; 50/1.2, 85/2.0. Some of those are not really up to 36MP. What do you think?

            • photoroto

              IMHO the 28 f2.8, 50 f1.8, and 85 f2.0 are all more or less worthy of 36mp, in terms of good sharpness over most of the field. Of course those are all spherical designs, and for anything but the 50 you will have to take down chromatic aberrations in LR.

              The 28mm f2.8 AIS can be spectacular, but it is important that you use a version where the focusing mechanism is in pristine shape. 28′s with even a slight amount of focus ring slop will have poor edge sharpness, which is something I saw when I cherry-picked my sample from the four I bought on ebay. Have heard there is a floating element or something like that in the design, that trashes the image if it’s not in the right place. It’s such a good lens that most of the ones you find used have worn out focus mechanisms. Am considering buying a new one.

              Another good 36mp-worthy AIS in the 55mm f2.8 Micro Nikkor. Exceedingly good out to the edges, and nearly as sharp at f11 as at f8. It’s my poor-man’s Otus!

              My 35 f2.0 is frankly kind of a dog, and is one I didn’t cherry-pick. My 35 f2.8 AIS is quite a bit better over the whole field, and has much less chromatic and almost no fringing. The 35 f2.8 AIS outperforms the Zeiss 35 F2 that I rented, which is not necessarily a big compliment to the AIS.

            • Michiel953

              I have to agree. Sharpness, contrast and flare resistance, more or less in that order, are what I look at. CA is just there and can usually be corrected. My 24 is passable, my mint 28 (from GraysofWestminster; not cheap) certainly meets the mark, of the 50′s I’ve only tried the 1.2 which also does, in its own way, the 85 I haven’t tried though should be better for female portraits than my 85/1.4G, ha ha, and I love my 2.0/35 because I’ve had it for so long; got it when I bought my FM2n brand new early 1990. Very useable but optically speaking a bit mediocre…. ;-)

              Oh, and the 28 is CRC, so there is indeed a floating element inside. A real gem.

  • Michiel953

    Just did the handling try-out. (Slightly) better grip (for me), smoother shutter, (slightly) brighter viewfinder with nice oled display. Walked around for ten minutes with my own sd card inside and my own 58 screwed on, took some 24 shots, all at 100 ISO, will see the results tonight.

    Oh, and it felt very familiar ;-)

  • Michiel953

    Actually the most shocking revelation came later that night, viewing the D810′s images with my 58/1.4.

    I went through three different samples of that lens late last year/early this year, I was the first in Amsterdam to get one. Front focusing like you wouldn’t believe. Then I had my D800 body checked. AF way out, was corrected. But I still had to AF fine tune (without achieving the really sweet spot), with my other lenses as well.

    The D810, without any fine tuning obviously, nailed focus every time with this supposedly difficult lens.

    I’m seriously annoyed.

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      Thank goodness.

      My D800 was all over the place, it’s one of the reasons I wanted to upgrade. Like you, my old unreliable FX lenses somehow magically work perfectly on my Df. I’m looking forward to the D810 upgrade, but they’re sold out in Switzerland.

      • Michiel953

        Originally, and just fo money reasons, I intended to trade the 58 (difficult lens!) with the D800 and use the 50/1.2 for portraits, but I’m thinking different now. Tomorrow I’ll do a walkaround try out with the D810, 35/1.4G fitted, set to RAW this time, diopter adjusted (I forgot that as well, never noticed of course), and see what happens.

        Reliable AF without the finetuning hassle (assuming well made lenses) would be a big bonus for me.

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