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Nikon D810 announcement this week

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Nikon is rumored to reveal their new D810 DSLR camera this week. The official announcement should be on June 26. In the US we can expect the new camera tonight (Tuesday) or tomorrow around midnight EST (Wednesday or Thursday morning European time). I do not have any additional information to report at this point (see the rumored specifications here).

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  • Naser

    Are you sure it’s not the D300s successor ? before the release of the D600, the rumors suggested the arrival of the D400.

    • Cristian

      I don’t think we will ever see a D400. It seems to me Nikon does not have any interest in producing a semi-pro dx body anymore.
      DX will be for consumer bodies and FX for “advanced consumer” (D6xx), and professional (D800, D4).
      Too much time has passed since Canon introduced 7D as a semi-pro sport oriented body without any announcement from Nikon.

      • koenshaku

        Well rumor has it that Canon is about to release the successor to the 7D if that is the case you can expect a D400 camera from Nikon.

        • 24×36

          Yeah, rumors have “had that” for about 4 years now. Don’t hold your breath. Given the shrinking market of people who will spend $1800ish on an APS-C DSLR, Nikon and Canon’s reluctance to make another is quite understandable. A “D9300″ with additional content (in particular buffer) would fill this role perfectly at this point.

          • Thom Hogan

            “Shrinking market” is a bit of self fulfilling prophecy here. Nikon lost a lot of D300 users to other systems because no update happened in a reasonable time period.

            The D300 was one of Nikon’s most profitable products, which makes it very, very strange that it was never adequately updated.

            • Mike D

              I used my D300 mostly with the older 80-400 but since it took so long for Nikon to upgrade both, I migrated over to the Sony A77 and 70-400. I just now upgraded to the A77 II and the 70-400 II. The new setup offers 24MP, 12 FPS, 60 image buffer, and the fastest continuous auto focus I’ve ever experienced. I’m still a Nikon user for may other photographic needs.

            • Plug

              Or, like me, they are enjoying using their Nikon gear but until a replacement appears are not upgrading anything. I have not bought a Nikon lens for three years. If an adequate replacement appears then, and only then, I will purchase an 80-400, a 500f4 and maybe a couple of other bits and pieces. I haven’t bought a nikon lens for three years.

            • maybe

              Unless its strategic self cannibalizing.

              Like adobe – keeping photoshop CC subscription only and ignoring the individuals who want one-time-buy

              Captive market is their security… lens investment for nikon, and no good alternative software for adobe

            • Ms.KrystalMeth

              Oh thom..I see it differently. Nikon made a extremely better product than the average D300. D800/e and D600/610..are prime examples.

            • umeshrw

              Yes very differently. A 6+ year old average half frame D300s to compare with current full frame D800/600!

            • MyrddinWilt

              I agree, the D300 and D90 were in their day the bulk of Nikon’s profits. The manufacturing costs were not all that different to the base models but the retail prices were much higher.

              The upper end flagship models have fat margins but don’t sell in big enough numbers to make much profit if any after the research costs are accounted for. So the upper end DX has been where the profits are.

              The only explanation I can see is that the Tsunami and the flood caused the planned D700 replacement to be delayed by a year and when it came out they decided that since the D800 is a 17MP DX mode camera there isn’t really a role for a DX body any more.

              Problem is that the birders really like DX and it will be years before mirrorless floats their boat.

            • Steve Griffin

              D800 is a 15MP APS-C in crop mode.

            • JoshR

              Sounds a bit like a cryptic hint, Thom. I have my money on a D9300.

            • Me

              Why was it profitable? Because it’s hung around forever and its mature toolset has been amortized? (Sheer longevity does that which is my landlord refuses to fix my windows.)

            • Thom Hogan

              I’m pretty sure the D300 was hugely profitable from the beginning. The D300s was far less profitable. But under an assumed four-year cycle, Nikon has had NOTHING to sell in this segment for three years now. Indeed, in tracking D300s sales, they pretty much dried up in 2011.

          • Rob

            If Nikon call the D400 a D9300 I’m switching to Canon.

          • umeshrw

            You do realize that D400 and D9300 will be the same thing. Don’t you?

        • PGi

          But the current management of the Nikon is very arrogant and almost retarded, so unlike canon guys they do not understand needs for the d2x ord300 successor.

          • Joe

            What do you mean? Canon has no current ‘pro’ crop camera, too. ‘Pro’ is ‘full frame’ today for both.

        • neonspark

          canon has been releasing the successor to the 7D a year after the 7D came out!!!

    • Ms.KrystalMeth

      Naser…Please keep up. Nikon 9300 is coming in Sept. This has been discussed here. No Virginia D400 is not coming today or anytime soon. D9300 is coming to compete with Canon’s 2008 7D. That they are replacing in Sept. You on board now?

      • http://www.rmjphotography.net/ RMJ

        D400 is “D9300″ (D9000 for it’s real name, obviously) and it’s coming soon.

    • broxibear

      D810 is here, and at the bottom of this very long thread, lol…

      • broxibear

        £2700 for the body in the UK.
        D810 now has the D4S’ Multi-CAM 3500FX 51-point AF system, new 36.3 megapixel sensor, Expeed 4 image processing engine, no optical low pass filter,

  • Forward

    Looking forward to this anoouncment… but will buy a D900

    • Stark-Arts

      so you are planning to wait 15 – 18 years?

      • Forward

        Nope. Wait 2 years tops…

        In the meantime, focus on improving skill instead of buying extra AF in camera

        • Gareth

          Well, assuming this is the D810 (which is should be, as it went D600 > D610) the next version will be the D820.

          Nikon have settled on a naming convention now. DX cameras are odd numbers: 3xxx, 5xxx, 7xxx and, maybe, 9xxxx (for the D300s replacement), and FX cameras are 6xx, 8xx.

          This leaves 1xxxx for potential DX mirrorless, and 4xx for potential FX mirrorless (D200 has already been used).

          The full-body integrated grip PRO model will just be the single digit D3 > D3s > D4 > D4s > D5 > D5s, etc. with the S model being a mid-life upgrade.

          The high-resolution D3x has been replaced by the D800 / D800e / D810 line. This makes sense, and clearly differentiates the D800 line (resolution) from the D4 line (speed).

        • http://www.rmjphotography.net/ RMJ

          D900 will be completely different kind of camera, not successor to D800 line. Assuming if it ever comes.

      • Ovidiu

        Optimistic thinking, do you think Nikon will last that much?

        • neonspark

          do you think canon will? just saying, stupid question deserves stupid follow up question.

      • neonspark

        15 years? what are yo smoking.

    • MarkLF

      That’s crazy, the D910 will be much better.

    • julian

      Is there a D1000? If so I will wait

      • http://www.mark-fiddian.com MarkLF

        But surely wait till the D1010?

        • FooBaa

          That’s stupid, if you’re going to wait all that time then at least wait for the bug free 1011

          • peterortphoto

            I’d rather have the upgraded D2010ehxs Mark ii with a built-in coffeemaker!

            • reignoffire

              don’t worry….d2300 is around the corner

            • peteee363

              I heard it will have a lawnmower option soon. and they changed the coffeemaker. you can either get espresso, or coffeemaker. it will also stream Netflix on the monitor.

            • reignoffire

              i heard it will have chengable nameplate, so you can change the name from nikon to canon or sony(if they still exists) anytime you want.

            • reductron

              The nameplate option will offer no nameplate at all to add to the mysteriousness, so people wonder if your’e at all driving the 2020 year-model VASIMR concept version.

            • why not

              and auto acceptance for printing on Vogue cover…

            • reductron

              I personally will wait for the extra legroom version (with high-torque-0-to-60-in-4Sec)

      • Sports

        The D1000 will be the new entry level model even below the other new entry level model D2300.
        It’ll have 24 MP, no viewfinder, shoot 1 fps, have a buffer for one image, and have three AF points all at the center.

        • julian

          oh yeah, DXXXX is reserved for DX model. So how many D888 and D999? I bet these names will get lots of people’s attention.

          • Chris

            not as much attention as a D666

    • Bokeh Monk

      I picked up my D700 about a year before the D800 arrived, got tired of waiting on the rumours! So I’m about ready for an upgrade.

      • PGi

        Smart move!

    • Aldo

      This is exactly what I predicted… people are confused now with the naming…they think its a d610 when in reality is a d610s equivalent…your d900 will likely be d820 if they stick to the naming pattern they are planning

      • simple

        you stirring the pot with name…
        others with specs…

        i say, price the thing at 1900…. and sellout like concert tickets, with no one complaining about defects…

    • PGi

      Or maybe d820?

  • David Peterson

    It had better shoot 4K video otherwise I wouldn’t even consider it! A flagship camera like this in 2014 ought to have that.

    • The Doc

      It won’t be the ‘flagship’ – this is the D4s. But it should be able to shoot 4K because everything else with a little higher quality soon will be able to shoot 4K and considering a two or more years lifespan it would decrease possible D810 sales…

      • David Peterson

        True, perhaps not a “true flagship” camera. But for most people the D800/D810 is the more “attainable flagship”! :-P If that makes sense.

        And even though 4K is not truly essential for the typical shooter, it is essential for Nikon to include it.

        Just look at all the attention Panasonic is getting with their GH4 camera! Even though for years and years Panasonic has been bringing out fantastic cameras (I used to shoot with a Panasonic GH1, and sometimes still do. http://www.anycamerawilldo.com/old-but-not-out/ ).

        But the GH4 getting 4K is what has brought all these eyeballs in to look at what Panasonic is doing, Nikon needs the same. As Nikon has actually got some great cameras on their hands (I myself shoot primarily with a Nikon D5200, which is an even better camera for video shooting than the D800 is! http://www.eoshd.com/content/9653/nikon-d5200-review). And the D5200 can match the much more expensive Canon 5DmkIII http://www.eoshd.com/content/tag/nikon-d5200 , so Nikon adding 4K would mean they’d finally get more appreciation for what great video DSLRs they’ve been making!

        • mikeswitz

          Seriously, have you seen any of this great 4k video shot on a DSLR and displayed on a compatible 4k monitor? If you have, have your eyes stopped bleeding?

          • David Peterson

            No, my eyes are still bleeding from the awesomeness! ;-)

        • Stephen Middlehurst

          The big question is though does any of that attention translate to sales? Problem with t’Internet is it’s a real echo chamber, especially when it comes to geek-teasing high specs or features, but that doesn’t always match up to the success of a product with real customers.

          4K right now is an odd one, it’s an impressive check box but I do wonder how many people would actually use it right now. After all there’s very few displays with enough pixels to view it native, even fewer ways of delivering that content to the end user and dealing with 4k video has the same downsides as shooting 36MP stills, i.e. higher hardware requirements. Nice to have for futureproofing perhaps but, again, those that shoot professionally might be better off waiting for the next revision when 4K displays and infrastructure are a little more common…

          • David Peterson

            I’m certainly see a lot of people move over to the Panasonic GH4!

            http://nofilmschool.com/2014/06/dave-dugdales-gh4-review-retire-canon-dslr/

            Also 4K is not really so much only about delivery right now, but about the benefits it brings on the production side.

            Same as using 36MP stills, it is not all about delivering at that level, but about the production process beforehand.

            And the hardware requirements are not really that arduous for either 36MP stills or 4K compressed video.

          • Me

            >The big question is though does any of that attention translate to sales?

            Bingo.

            People on the internet saying that ‘waaaaah, I waaaaant it’ doesn’t count. Including it means raising costs and the ‘waaaaaah’ boys will probably demand that the D810 should cost ten bucks because…. ‘waaaaaaah’.

            The industry is moving to 4k but lots of other pieces of infrastructure need to be in place before this becomes a need rather that a want. As for the genius product planners who say ‘Nikon should not raise prices but just include it for free to gain market share,’ they should be directed to a concept called theory of constraints.

      • mikeswitz

        And you know this because……?

    • Bob

      Don’t worry; I’ll take the one they made for you.

    • Stark-Arts

      if you are a dedicated video shooter wouldn’t you look for a video camera?

      • reductron

        Stark-Arts you’re too judgmental. Why not a coffeemaker?

      • David Peterson

        Are you still living behind the times and not aware of the “DSLR Revolution” which hit the indie film industry (and other video producers)? It is fantastic!

        Top notch stills cameras such as the Nikon D5200, Sony A6000, and Panasonic GH4, can produce images far out stripping the video cameras of pre-DSLR Revolution days that would’ve cost many many many times more.

        See for instance how the Panasonic GH2 comes out tops here:
        http://www.zacuto.com/shootout-revenge-2012

        • mikeswitz

          Advertising gobbledy-gook. No one in the film business uses DSLRs unless they have to. 4k at this point is really ugly.

          • David Peterson

            Wrong. I (and many other people I work with) use DSLRs for videos!

            It is my professional job. Here is an example of a recent video I shot using a Nikon D5200 (with a bit of Canon 5DmkII mixed in there):

            http://vimeo.com/94806693

            • mikeswitz

              I wouldn’t exactly call that the film business.

            • David Peterson

              I suppose you have a narrow view of video productions which only include big budget Hollywood feature films?

              Well guess what, there is a whole lot more videos out there in the world being made every day!

              But yes, even feature films use DSLRs on their sets.

            • mikeswitz

              I’m sorry, but this is a perfect example of why DSLRs are not really being used for “professional” production. If you had been one of my students I would have given you an A-. If I were a for-profit client I would have fired your ass.
              Not one foucus pull was successfully completed. Color grading was simply awful. Everything looked slightly soft. If you had used 4k and watched it on a dedicated monitor, it would have looked worse.
              I’m sorry if this hurts your feelings. It nothing personal. I would have told you the same thing had you been one of my students. My former DP, who is Australian as well, has lately been pushing Canon for video production, but as soon as he gets a job he’s off renting big, honking lenses and cameras designed to give professional results.
              Try renting the proper gear. Both functionally and technically you will be amazed at the difference.

            • David Peterson

              It is a web video for fundraising marketing.

              You likely just have a different taste in artistic choices. (the softness though we can blame on the Canon 5DmkII which is mixed in there :-P I prefer my D5200, and Panasonic’s GH line)

              This kinds of videos get regularly made by countless for profit business every day around the world.

              And I’ve used pro “video cameras”, and still have a strong preference for DSLR/MILCs! Including for their greater ease of use :-D

            • mikeswitz

              So I guess you are saying “oh, its good enough for its intended use. and countless others make substandard videos as well” It has nothing to do with artistic choices, it has to do with making professional quality videos and to adhereing to a minimum of technical standards.

            • David Peterson

              Admit it, you just have a different (dare I say… old fashioned!) view of the world.

              Take a look at this music video done for a very big name band:

              http://www.eoshd.com/content/13030/new-ok-go-music-video-shot-panasonic-gh4

              Bet nobody was fired at that for showing up with a Panasonic GH4. And guess what, a GH4 is designed *perfectly* for such a job! Using one of your “proper gear cameras” instead would’ve been borderline insane and made it waaay harder to create that video.

            • mikeswitz

              When you shoot anything, anything as well done as the OK Go video I would love to see it. I have said many time before that some DSLRs are great for film students and music videos and not much else. Those guys are pros–you are not.

    • MyrddinWilt

      Not very likely, the problem is that the industry has not established a recording media for 4K yet. QXD cards are only marginally faster than the latest SD cards and they cost $600 each. CFast is the same.

      4K will come but its a 2016 feature, not a 2014 feature at this point. At least in DSLR space where video is an add-on feature.

      Nikon could make a Nikon-1 body with 4K much more easily as the sensor is designed for 4K video. You can in fact shoot 4K video with it, just not for very long (a few seconds).

      • Patrick O’Connor

        You can’t stream it to an external video recorder?

      • PGi

        No thanks we do not want tiny Nikon ones they are useless from ISO 400.

      • David Peterson

        4K is a reality today, in 2014. Don’t need to wait for cards to “catch up”.

        Panasonic, Sony, and Canon are all already having their stills cameras which do 4K video as well.

        And it is quickly changing too, many many more will be coming out with 4K capabilities over the next year. Nikon can’t wait until 2016!

        • mikeswitz

          Yes, they can.

        • Art

          Of course, the latest GoPro also does 4K video. You don’t need an expensive camera to take advantage of 4K video.

          • David Peterson

            I already have a GoPro 3 Black Edition, but most of the time I want better than GoPro quality! (plus it only does 4K at a very low framerate, I hardly think that counts at all)

    • decisivemoment

      Not a chance. No 4K on the D4s. What I call “flip book” 4K on the V3 and only for very short clips (i.e. shoot high speed stills for a few seconds and string it together). And besides, card media aren’t ready. Well, UHS-II marginally, but still . . . . what’s wrong with 1080-60p?

    • KnightPhoto

      Yeah I’d have to agree with Myrddin and predict ALL signs point to absence of 4K for this generation including the D810. Just look at the entire list of EXPEED4 cameras that have arrived WITHOUT 4K, especially the D4S and V3 models – therefore the D810 will not be any different. My sense is a combination of CPU, sensor, and software limitations at this point prevent it. Hold out for a D900 / D5 / V4 I think for 4K video. At least the 2K video on the EXPEED4 cameras looks pretty good.

    • Mike

      And what 4K video camera can shoot 36mp stills? Shouldn’t all modern video cameras shoot 30+mp stills? This is a stills first, video second camera. As are most in a DSLR form factor. For better video, there are better options.

      • Mike D

        Red video cameras are getting close especially for stills.

        • Mike

          Can you trigger OCF with Red?

        • neonspark

          Red video cameras cost as much as a car.

    • PGi

      And at least 60 p at full hd

    • Rob

      A D700 successor (IE low MP) and 4k could have done the job… as would a D400, both would be more suitable. We might get a D400/D9300 this year so who knows…

      • David Peterson

        A D400 will probably never happen. Instead we will get the D7200, or perhaps D9300.

        A low megapixel Nikon would be sweet, such as the Sony A7s which is only 12 megapixels (and coincidentally does 4K video too…) with a full frame sensor which means it is has phenomenally good low light.

        • Rob

          D9300=D400. Whether it will happen or not is up to Nikon. It has been one of the most speculated cameras in the history of the company. I think with APS still holding sway for entry level SLR they will make a flagship for the range. Pentax gets weather sealing so I can’t believe a spec’d and toughened D7200/d7200 is that much of an ask. Generally flagships don’t make much money for camera companies but the advertising is a necessary component, I’m not sure Nikon will leave it forever. Anyway fingers crossed for something good in APS eventually even if it is a mirrorless D2300 (should be 4k capable in reality…).

    • neonspark

      this is just a small revision. nikon gets its sensors from sony and 4K video won’t come for quite some time to the full frame game until sony gets around to make it happen.

      • David Peterson

        Sony already makes a full frame sensor capable of 4K video (the Sony A7s), so it is already out there for Nikon to take advantage of….

        • neonspark

          is that a 36.6MP sensor? just asking. no, it doesn’t, therefore sony does not make a sensor with 4K recording that is suitable for the D800 period.

          • David Peterson

            Better lowlight though. So it is a worthwhile camera Nikon could bring out on multiple fronts.

            • neonspark

              maybe so, but that is a moot point regarding the D800 high resolution goals. The best bet for Nikon remains that sony will figure out how to get the data off the 36MP sensor in a way that is suitable to video. But I have a feeling that sony needs to put the resolution to a multiple of 4K at 16:9 before it can handle 4K gracefully on high res still bodies. This would likely mean a slight bump to the 36.6 sensor. Let’s say they target 8K resolution for the video internally at 7680×4320. This yields the 7680 with number we need for the stills and for reference the D800 clocks at (7,360 × 4,912). So they are almost there. If we take the 1.5 ratio this means the D820 should be around ( 7680 x 5125) or about 39.4MPs. This would let them pixel bin to 1/4th the resolution, yielding 4K and produce the best result possible without actually outputting 8K (which would be the preferred way if they can)

            • KnightPhoto

              Does 4K also scale mathematically to 1080p? I would not mind a sensor that scales this way so that it shoots 4K internally but delivers me super duper 1080P for output :-)

            • neonspark

              there are a couple of resolutions for what people call 4K, but if you take 4K to mean 4X the 1920×1080 I believe they can probably deliver better 1080p than what they are doing today. The problem is off course that 4K is too low resolution for still imaging meaning a full sensor readout, which is what everybody wants just isn’t practical. So you start at these very high resolutions and they then need to do line skip or pixel binning to avoid overheating or saturating the data paths.
              This is why I think the best compromise solution (although it will be years before it is actually in the market) would be 8K for stills and 4K for video via pixel binning 8K to 4K. You can always downscale 4K in post for some sharp 1080p using much better algorithms than the real time ASICs on the nikons can deliver.
              Unfortunately the resolution disparity between stills and videos will probably mean there is always some sort of compromise if you want the best stills. I have no trouble believing nikon is ready to push into the 50MP. But you can imagine how an 8K/4K stills/video camera could in fact be very very popular.

    • Sahaja

      If Nikon put 4K video in the D810 their implementation needs to be at least as good as whatever the competition (Canon, Sony, Panasonic, …) have – otherwise they will just get bad reviews and comparisons.

      (BTW the “flagship” camera is still the D4S)

    • Me

      I’ll leave it up to others to comment but I’ve seen no evidence that the Expeed 4 has been optimized for 4k yet and this early in its product lifecycle, probably shouldn’t outside of the lab. The codebase is too new AND it won’t budge sales that much.

      You’ll have to wait until the D5. As for your not considering it, well, tough. I’m so sorry that you need to contend with reality.

  • Squidward

    The name is flawed. Nikons -10 nomenclature was reserved to fix cockups. SB910 the flash that didn’t overheat, D610 the camera that didn’t foul the sensor with oil and dust, and now the D810? The camera with out focusing issues?
    Every time I hear D810 I cringe. I’ll be keeping my D800, there’s nothing wrong with mine

    • S. Bob

      Someone’s been eating too many crabby patties!

    • decisivemoment

      Well, uh, true, but one could make the case for simply saying everything should look “tidy”, so, 10s across the board? Then nothing stands out as a failure, you see! Sort of the Lake Wobegon of camera companies — where the DSLRs are good looking, the point-and-shoots are strong, and all the pictures are above average!

      • Squidward

        Give me a D900 then. It’ll match my SB900, then the whole combo will look tidy….. but then I’ll have to wait for an MB-D90. That could take a while as there’s nothing wrong with my MB-D10 either (except the retail price). I still have a D90 though….. might have to start carrying it again. This is all getting very confusing.

        • Global

          Wait 2 more years for a D900. Besides, if “D600″ was the flawed one, then you should fear “D900″, not “D810″ — “D610″ was the good one! :o)

          • http://www.btobey.com/ Brian

            Nonsense. The D800E remains top dog.

            • Global

              *your head* – *this conversation passing over it*

    • n11

      Nothing wrong with mine either, but the D810 will be better everything considered.

      • Squidward

        If it’s a minor upgrade (which it is) then it should be a D800s. I really dislike D810, Nikon have tainted the -10 label.

        • Jeff Hunter

          Agree.

        • Gareth

          It’s just the new naming convention. Same as D3000 > D3100 > D3200 > D3300, etc. The “10” isn’t tainted, it’s just an upgrade to that line. However, I get the point of the D610 and SB910.

    • Global

      Its just an item number. The camera has whatever you want to name it. “Sexy Beast” “the Tardis” “Souffle Girl” your choice! 8-)

      (A.) The “D610″ is an EXCELLENT camera at great value.
      (B.) The “D810″ will be an EXCELLENT premium camera!

      Very consistent!

      “D810″ sounds as good as any “D” plus some crazy number. Unless you want Nikon to name their cameras something equally stupid like the “D Bronco” or “D Omega”, just get over it. Stop worrying about the name.

      • R!

        I THINK THEY SOULD’VE CALLED NIKONS CAMERA: HD 1,2,3 etc… SINCE THE HD ERA IT’S SUCH A MESS RIGHT NOW EVRYBODY IS LAUGHING AT NIKONS BODY NAMES EVEN NIKONS BUDYS !!!!!!!
        THEY SHOULD TAKE THE 4K OCASION TO DO THAT OR THEY WILL END UP WITH 5 NUMBR NAMES SOON;
        AND WORK ON NEW SENSORS TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE CANON IS COMMING WITH SOMETHING NEW PRETTY SOON
        I TAKE A TOUCH SCREEN ANYTIME ALSO !
        CHEERS READERS!

        • therapy

          you need to get laid…

          • umeshrw

            And unlock the caps lock button……

            • Jorge

              Hear! Hear!

          • Jorge

            LOL LOL

  • Sam

    Nothing about the d9300 or d7200? This is kind of weird…

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I think the next camera will come in August-September timeline right before Photokina.

      • Martin

        Do you think there will be a D610 replacement this year?? I want it so BAAADDDD!! Thanks in advance!

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          I don’t think so.

          • Martin

            ok. Thanks for your reply!! Love this site!!

        • yup

          D810 can be your replacement…..

          • Martin

            I really like the reduced size, layout and 24MPx is more than enough for me… Thanks anyway!

            • FredBear

              Sounds like you need a D610 then …

        • FredBear

          Why would you want a D610 replacement?

          • Martin

            I have a D600 now, and I am very happy with it. Hope D610 replacement would have D800 AF (51 points bigger area); that’s what I envy the most.

            • Global

              Martin, Nikon isn’t going to make a D610 replacement like that — not for at least 2 years at least anyway.

              You should get many happy years out of your D600. Enjoy!

            • FredBear

              I think it will have more or wider spread (or both) focus points in the next iteration.
              Other than that, IQ is great.

    • Sebastien Girard

      Will be announced at the same time of the Canon 7D Mk II

  • ElRey

    How about lenses. Any lenses… for DX maybe?!

    • n11

      Hahahaha, NOPE!
      Here’s a Nikon-1 lens for you as consolation though.

    • doge

      I have an 18-300 f5.6 lens for you.

      Sincerely,

      Nikon

      • Sam

        I lol’d at this one! Seriously a 16 mm 1.8 or 2.8 is the only lens I want so bad.

      • Sports

        Isn’t it f6.3 these days :-(

    • stoooopid

      DX? Oh yeah…DX.
      Nikon: “uhhmmm, yeah, here – take this superzoom. Happy?”
      or
      Nikon: “for Christs sake – just put FF lenses on your DX.”

    • Jonathan

      Nikon doesn’t like DX customers. We have to buy sigma (not a bad deal though – I like my Sigy lenses.)

    • Squidward

      Yep, the new 18-something f3.5-5.6 that you didn’t know you wanted, and probably don’t need

    • David Peterson

      Nikon *needs* to bring out more DX lenses (which are small and competitively priced) if they are to have a chance at fighting against the wave of small mirrorless cameras which will eat into the DSLR market.

      • jvossphoto

        Pentax kicks Nikon’s Ass in that department.

        • David Peterson

          You’re unfortunately right :-/ Pentax does have more attractive APS-C lenses.

          At least we can get some of them for Nikon F mount under the Tokina brand! :-D

      • Me

        They don’t need to do anything. I seems that the company is basing is lens portfolio around a different strategy of APSC as a junior market and FF as the core market and growth market.

        That you don’t agree with it doesn’t translate it a need on Nikon’s part, just a different view of the future. This has hardly been a surprise and many have cautioned for years ‘you may not have full frame now but buying lenses for it now means you won’t have to buy your lenses again in the future.’

        This was debated hotly by consumers in many discussion sites and can’t be a surprise. Nikon will update its DX lenses, but years of their actual track record and trends show that full frame is where they’re betting the farm and so you can’t expect the DX updates to be fast or frequent.

        • David Peterson

          If they don’t, I can always just take my DX lenses to Panasonic, FujiFilm, Canon, or Sony! ;-)

          Is what I love love about the Nikon F mount, so easy to adapt to any other camera body :-D Unlike the poor Canon sobs.

    • Sports

      I’m sure sales are something like 90% DX bodies and 10% FX bodies.
      But even if it were 100% DX bodies, Nikon would still refuse to introduce DX lenses.

  • Larry

    Hurray!
    D800 price drop!

    • Naser

      How sure are we about the price drop? will it be sudden ?

      • broxibear

        Hi Naser,
        There were no price drops when the D3s, D4 and D4s came out, the previous models just became unavailable.
        Jessops in the UK dropped the price of the D800 from £1999 to £1796 today, no one else has followed yet.

        • broxibear

          Jessops have also now dropped the price of the D800E by £200, no other retailer so far has changed the prices.

          • broxibear

            Odd…after dropping their prices for 24 hours Jessops UK have now put them back up.
            I don’t know what’s going on there, Parks UK are out of both D800 and D800E bodies as are other pro dealers.
            Looks like the stock will go before any price cuts arrive.

      • Nexus

        D800’s are selling for $2600 CDN & the D800E for $2900 CDN as of this writing !

        • Global

          The D800 was selling *NEW* for $2,000 on eBay this week (about 100 of them). It was grey market — but hey, $1,000 savings can pay for almost any damage repair if needed.

    • foresight

      Nope. D810 will be priced higher.

      • Larry

        hmm it doesn’t contradict what I said (?)
        D810 announcement might drop D800 price..

    • KS

      For a time, retailers will have both the 800 and 810 in stock, and I cannot see how that wouldn’t push down the price of the 800–to sell quickly. I’m in the market for a D800, and will be watching the retailers closely.

  • Marcel Speta

    well, i am curious for first test shots, especially at higher ISO (2000 – 6400)… if OK and bug free then i almost decided to buy a young brother to my D3s and D700 ….

  • broxibear

    This video popped up on vimeo a few hours ago. I’m not saying it is or isn’t connected with the rumoured D810, I’m just posting it and you can make your own mind up about it…
    http://vimeo.com/98938146

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I do not think this is an official Nikon video. I think at one point I spotted the D800 logo.

      • broxibear

        I looked at that and it’s not a D800 logo, it’s different. Maybe just someone having a bit of fun when they know the D810 is coming out soon.
        Nikon should use as an advert, it’s better than most of the stuff they put out.

  • doge

    prediction – $3500.

  • stormwatch

    Finally Nikon is catching up with the competition, a high quality full frame mirrorless with 4k….go Nikon go!!! Or I could be wrong?

    • really?

      What movie will you make with 4K, and what computer hardware do you have to render in 4K?

      Or just in love with specs?

      • Carleton Foxx

        4K is here and sooner rather than later clients are going to start asking for their projects to be shot in 4K.
        For instance, if you wanted a promo video for your product to run at trade shows, wouldn’t it look more impressive to potential customers if it were running on a 96″ Sony 4K Ultra HD XBR TV?
        .

        • Bokeh Monk

          If your clients are asking for 4K video, you’d better be showing up with a Red system or you’ll be laughed at, all the way to the unemployment line. Period.

          • Carleton Foxx

            Please elaborate. I’ve been having trouble finding concrete details about the relative quality of the output from the various systems. In the good old days, you could measure the density and grain structure of film and there were documented standards about how big you could blow up film for projection.
            But now how do we know what DSLR camera video is suitable for which viewing format? The manufacturers are all very vague about what their video can be used for. Like for instance, is D800 video good enough for feature films to be projected in a theater? Is GH4 video acceptable for national network news shows?
            Can you comment?

            • mikeswitz

              No

            • David Peterson

              Even the original Panasonic GH1 is perfectly good enough for showing feature films at cinemas. ( http://www.anycamerawilldo.com/old-but-not-out/ )

              Have you seen “Upstream Color” in a cinema? I have, had *too much* shallow DoF for my tastes :-P And that btw was shot with a Panasonic GH2.

          • David Peterson

            No way will I shoot with Red, I’d like to keep what hair I have left :-)

            Many many many good reasons not to shoot with a Red camera.

            http://fstoppers.com/why-i-sold-my-red-and-downgraded-to-a-c100

            (and that was written last year! If he wrote it today I bet he’d replace every instance of “C100″ with “GH4″ instead!)

      • umeshrw

        Deja vu. Rewind 1 year ago and replace the “4K” with “36 mp”. Really?

      • stormwatch

        What movie would I make? Man, 4k will be a mainstream in a matter of months, just look when the new smartphones start coming with 4k video. Machine that renders 4K in realtime costs about 1500 Euro in the case of PC configuration. I’m shooting Full HD since the beginning of 2004. and customers in most cases REQUIRE the highest quality for the archival purposes, 4K is not anything special in 2014. maybe for Nikon, but not for the others.

      • Ken Elliott

        >> “What movie will you make with 4K, and what computer hardware do you have to render in 4K?”

        I’m editing a short film, and there are times I’d love to have a 4K shot, so I can Ken Burn’s it (pan/zoom). But generally I’d down-rez it to 1080p 4:4:4. My HP workstation does just fine, thanks.

        Clients are asking about 4K, but mainly to future-proof the project. There are benefits, but we are a very long way from being able to put 4K in the living room.

        • Jeff Hunter

          I have a 4K 65″ television now. 2160 computer graphics cards are available now. Bring on the 4K!

  • Mike

    Hopefully it will be a bit more groundbreaking than D610 and that the “s” raw actually adds buffer and fps…. And hopefully breaking the 4mpx barrier… Cant say my hopes are high, ive had the D800 for almost 2 1/2 years and it grows on me

  • Cristian

    Take a D700 body…. put D610 24Mpx sensor into it….
    Insert an Expeed 4 processor and some AF improvement using a large AF area like on the D700. Add a dual memory slot and a quiet shutter…
    Even if with the use of a MB-Dxx, you will obtain a tropicalized 8fps body that will probably be the best camera available for every kind of use.

    • jr456

      This would be quite awesome IMO. Although, I don’t think Nikon is listening. It would also re-invigorate their lens sales too IMO. I certainly can’t confirm but I think they’re losing market-share to Canon at this point.

  • Nikonuserwithnohopeofredemtion

    Hope it’s gold plated, or at least has tasteful titanium inlaid motifs.

    • Aeroengineer

      Titanium inlays are a great idea. Thus equipped, the camera will give off a shower of sparks when you drop it.

  • Mistral75

    I just received this from a french dealer:

    http://b5l.r.mailjet.com/nl/xg4t/0wqy6.html

  • grammar girl

    “I do not have any additional information to report at that point…”

    Sorry, but for the 20th time, its “at THIS point” not “at THAT point.” No offense intended, just wondering: are you a native English speaker?

    • Patrick O’Connor

      I always wondered about that but I decided he must mean at the point in which the article was written, which is necessarily in the past. Therefore, at THAT point.
      I could be wrong, though. I often am.

    • Degsy

      It does say ‘at this point’.Untwist your knickers and fuck off

      • Global

        He should start writing, “at which point,” and really throw her off! :-)

    • grammar boy

      It’s “it’s”, not “its”.

      • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

        LOL, good one :)

  • Henry Finkleman

    Doesn’t it make sense they named it D810 instead of D800s since it is replacing the D800’s? Seems when Nikon releases a ‘S’ model, it sells besides the non ‘S’ model. While anything with x10 naming is a replacement (whether it is to fix bugs as in the past, or introduce new features).

    I also though that replacement models do not cost more like the ‘S’ models do…

  • Maurizio Rocco

    No leaked pictures,admin?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Not yet, but wait – there is always a website that publishes before the embargo. The camera should be identical to the D800 with small changes in the buttons and grip.

      • Maurizio Rocco

        Thank you!waiting for some updates.

      • Marcel Speta

        hopefuly they will not change the battery grip! I am not willing to pay 600+$ for new grip.

        • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

          Me too Marcel. I’m hoping to reuse my old (Nikon) grip.

        • Jorge

          Zeikos Grip. Amazon: less than $100.00 I’ve been using them on my D300, D700 since 2009 and now my D800 — Have dropped and cracked them and they still go on ticking. Can’t go wrong.

      • Michiel953

        As I predicted. Same bodyshell, some weight loss, 50 grs max is my bet.

  • MrLee

    This is why Ebay has the D800 on the ‘Deal of the day” page today for $2500.00
    Making room for the D810’s!

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Grey market Nikon D800 is currently selling for $2,099.99 on eBay: https://www.facebook.com/nrblog/posts/695878237145279

      • Naser

        I don’t see 2099.99 …. I see 2,582.99

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          they must have raised the price

      • Guest

        Don’t know how wise is to buy a grey market D800 or to buy it on eBay; in that case these folks sell it even for less $1,849 :-)
        http://www.thedigitalpros.com/item.htr?id=29153

        • Spy Black

          “Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S Nikkor Lens…”

          Yeah, you really want to buy from these guys…

          • paintitwhite

            Had to check. As if bundling D800 with 18-55mm DX lens wasn’t enough… Scroll down for D800 package #21 that is bundled with: “Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM Lens for Canon”. Don’t know if I should laugh or cry or both.

  • I AM OLD NOOS

    We know.
    You released that a while back.
    Slow day?

    • Henry Finkleman

      Just a friendly reminder, bro. Not everyone has extreme and fast days like broxibear! You should be on a Mountain Dew commercial.

      • Henry Finkleman

        What a dipshit. He changed his name from broxibear to what it is now.

  • http://www.povazanphotography.com/ Jozef Povazan

    NEWs: D8+10improvements :( = 10 fixes of D8+00 :)

  • fdlens

    16 bit “lossless” hehe raw files ???

    • giori

      hopefully but dont think so…sadly/regrettably…….

    • Henry Finkleman

      Why stop at 16 bit? We should do 128 bit, where there will be 5,232 different shades of the same exact shade of black,

      • Lcky

        There is already talk of 32bit depth capture for high end video which ends up being a very sane 4.29 billion colors. 32bit has become a rendering standard for compositing video, but capture remains at 16bit. 48bit is possible and a few codecs support it, at 281 trillion colors it makes sense for compositing but beyond this it may be a diminishing returns situation, atm at least. 64bit will be the processing standard when 32bit rolls around, but more to keep colors and dynamic range in check. Beyond this, only the future will tell. I hope quantum physics gives us something cool to see by then.

        2 to the power of your desired bitdepth will give you the # of colors, good luck with 128, I’m looking forward to it! : )

  • Carleton Foxx

    My cameras are knackered, and I really need to replace them. Do we think we can trust Nikon to have them working right out of the gate? What is the feeling here? Can we trust again?

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      I hope they’ve learned their lesson. I’m ordering on day 1.

      • Eno

        If you order in day 1, you haven’t learn your lesson, not Nikon. LOL

        • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

          I hope you’re wrong, brother!

          • Eno

            Me to :)

      • Mark Zee

        It’s better to wait for some time before you order. If there are manufacturing defects, it will save you a lot of time later.

      • zp

        You sir are a brave pioneer. I will be hiding and reading forums while people like you find the bugs for us. While I believe that Nikon management will now be launching every new camera launch with scrutiny of a NASA mission I have simply lost faith. They will need a long track record of successful launches and a revamped customer service to restore my trust.

        • Jorge

          Piioneers take all the arrows for the rest of us.

    • Jorge

      knackered? WTF?

      • Carleton Foxx

        The knacker is the guy you sell your dying or dead animals to. He takes them and throws them into a big pot to be rendered for glue, gelatin, and whatever else might be saleable. To be “knackered” means on the last legs, ready to be turned into parts.

  • Zeppo

    Will they make in yellow?
    How about a talking alarm clock radio?
    Nikon has to think outside the box.

    Seriously, I think group AF and better ISO performance will do it for me.

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      Me too.

      I’m looking forward to the occasionally necessary faster FPS as well.

      Wondering about the sRaw feature too. That could go either way.

  • JXVo

    No hype, fanfare, teaser videos….almost like this not really important for Nikon.

    • TeaBreak

      Why should this be important? It’s only semi-pro with nothing new that could help you to make a real step forward in your photography. Milestones worth the hype are rare (last imho was D3).

      • koenshaku

        Yes like pure photography…..

      • Aeroengineer

        Right about the D3, and about the D810. However, 36 MP in a DSLR probably ranks as a milestone as well.

        • TeaBreak

          Yes, but that step has been already taken two years ago. :-).

          • Aeroengineer

            I know. I bought one, and after two years I’m still amazed by the performance.

      • Jeff Hunter

        Any camera a photographer uses to make a revenue producing photograph is a “pro” camera.

        • TeaBreak

          True, there are many pros out who have to earn their money the tough way using semi-pro gear. Unfortunately sooner or later most ot them end up at a point where they realize the gap between their gear and their needs as a professional. Typically is not because of the possible results (semi-pro can deliver excellent results) but the missing reliability. So was D800: stunning results when all went fine, but many times “restive” when it comes to AF accuracy i.e (there are other shortcomings, AF accuracy is only the most prominent). Hard to explain this to a customer.
          But that’s the way it is: semi-pro gear won’t become pro gear just because it is used by a pro. :-)

          • Jeff Hunter

            Renown photojournalist David Burnett is very fond of using vintage cameras for assignments. Advertising photographer Pete Turner used the 35mm format when most other advertising photographers were using larger format cameras. Equipment is always subordinate to a photographer’s vision and creativity.

            Cameras are just tools. Owning the most expensive camera doesn’t make anyone a good photographer. A talented photographer with an inexpensive camera will always make better pictures than an average photographer with an expensive camera.

            I have a sneaking suspicion that there are more than a few “gear heads” on this website that spend way more time obsessing over equipment than they spend making photographs.

            • mikeswitz

              You’ve never said it so well.

            • umeshrw

              You have said it absolutely right. But what teabreak was talking about was not the creative gaps. The technical ones like durability or being able to take pictures reliably in even subzero temps or very adverse situations are the ones which differentiate the good gear from true pro gear. According to me truly pro gear is the equipment which will allow you to work easily in absolutely most(I cannot say all) photographic situations and types for longest periods of time without breaking down or becoming unreliable.

    • Me

      Hmmm. It’s almost like it’s a mid-production tweak like Nikon typically does half-way through a camera’s lifecycle or something.

  • Peter Tham

    My local BestBuy store says that the Nikon D800 is discontinued. The Nikon D810 has to be around the corner.

  • saywhatuwill

    Credit card is standing by.

  • Arsen

    I already Placed an order with my local camera store. As long as its the Same as D800E with no filter, better LCD, better ISO, Faster Frame Rate, Capture NX2 Support and better processor. Counting the hours before the official announcement. I am a little shocked that we don’t have any leaked info and photos.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Yes, this should be the D810. It should have also several video improvements.

      • Arsen

        Thank you for the verification.. You guys are great in keeping us up to date.

      • David Peterson

        > “It should have also several video improvements.”

        Yay!!! As it is kinda weird when the lowly D5200 does better video than even that D800/D4s does…

    • Michiel953

      If that’s all true, it’s the new King of the Hill. Forget Sony A something, Leica huh? Canon Mark ???

      Hail the King!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mark

    Not everyone wants WiFi, and some events/shoots don’t allow for WiFi enabled cameras due to extremely sensitive or confidential subject matter. IMO they are better off not including it,and if you wish to add it yourself, I’m sure you can afford the $50 on your $3500+ camera investment, especially if you make your living that way. Also then the people who don’t want it aren’t paying for it, even if it is indeed a small cost, and the people who do want it can spend the 1% more and get it. I am fine with things like WiFi and GPS being add-ons, as myself and many others have no need or desire for them whatsoever.

    • Mauro Schramm

      Attach an external device is an inconvenient task. As Global said, the cost would be negligible for embedding wifi and if you do not want to use it (or can not), just turn it off. Moreover, the accessories that cost $ 50 (WU-1a / b) do not work on D800 / e. Wifi on the D800 costs almost $ 1,000 (UT-1 + WT-5A).

      • Mark

        Fair point, however if it’s built into the camera there is no way for the venue to know when WiFi is switched on or off, and that is the issue. I realize this doesn’t affect everyone, but is likely the primary reason keeping WiFi out of Nikon Pro cameras. I’m sure they wouldn’t be opposed to adding WiFi and adding another couple hundred to the MSRP if they didn’t have a reason not to.

        My mistake on the cost of the WiFi module, I had looked at the wrong one.

        • Global

          $1000 Mark — $1000. Its more than a damn good reason. Buy a Df if you want a crippled piece of anachronistic hardware. Or go back to film. What part of “digital” is hard to understand? The rest of the world has moved into a new century. And the amount that Nikon charges is an insult to everyone who DOES need wifi, even if you don’t.

          I don’t know which CIA agency youre working for, but everyone else in the world has cellphones. If you turn over cellphones and other devices and they have a blackout then the wifi on a D800S wouldn’t even work. And if cameras are able to accept dongles as they currently do anyway, then the entire point you are making is MOOT, because someone could just put a dongle on at the event and no one could ever stop that.

          You have to understand how wifi works on these cameras to begin with. It doesn’t send it to satellites or anything. Take away the network, take away the receiving device. And since people can use dongles and wifi memory cards anyway, if you allow any camera at all, even D800es, then you already accept the possibility of wifi being used. So basically you are literally telling Nikon to not include a technology that you don’t even understand and to keep charging outrageous prices to people who DO need that technology, when you could very well just turn yours off if you don’t need it. And that’s wrong of you.

          There is no advantage –zero– to your position. A D5300 has wifi. It costs them like a dollar to include it. If a D800 user needs it, they get their wallet mugged by Nikon. Terrible policies, just like the crippling of the Df, and the non-existing D400, and sloppy Nikon 1 rollout, and the missing semi-pro APS-C or better mirrorless cameras, by Nikon Executives who are tanking the company while looking equally backwards.

          • http://www.jeremy-dixon.com.au/ coloretric

            WiFi is not included in the upper end models as it has it’s own overhead costs.

            Such as placement (within a tight PCB board and location in the body). It also has to undergo extensive testing. For instance, if the the wifi module is made by a third party, who covers the warranty if the module fails? Will Nikon keep surplus stock? What will be the turn around time for the customers if they send their camera body in but we (Nikon) have no modules in stock?

            Questions like these cost money. It is better and easier to negate extra costs like these and not include the wifi module in the camera body.

    • Global

      Mark, are you crazy?

      You seem to be 1 of 2 people who don’t know what era the planet earth is in right now. The other person is Nikon’s CEO.

  • Jon McGuffin

    I fail to understand the degree of quality concerns that I’m seeing here. To my knowledge, Nikon has not had really any significant qualities issues when “refreshing” a current model versus a brand new one. (D300s, D3s, D610, D7100, etc).

    Minor upgrades and tweaks, if anything, are the refinement
    of the product to a more stable and mature tool. It’s the brand new models to be concerned about, not these updates.

    • broxibear

      Hi Jon,
      You’re right in what you say, I think the quality concerns may have to do with the D810 being made in Nikon’s Thailand factory, where the D800/E were made in Sendai Japan.
      Whether they’re legitimate concerns I don’t know, time will tell.

      • Jon McGuffin

        Time will tell but I think given the past successful products coming out of Thailand (D7100, D300s too?) would only be an indicator that those plants are perfectly capable of producing quality products. Nonetheless, I’m anxious to see what Nikon has to offer us here in the D810 and probably mostly concerned about price (please $3299 or less).

        • Adrian Gopal

          Add D70/D70s/D80/D90 all were from Thailand.

      • R!

        Sendais products may have higher radiation level,if you’re planing on body mutation!?

  • Jon McGuffin

    I, as a customer who purchased the D700 just prior to the announcement of the D800, am quite pleased with what I think I’m going to see in this update. It would appear certain we’re going to see the following upgrades:

    – 20-30% faster frame rate (now as fast as my D700).
    – Improved AF options and performance.
    – No AA filter (instead of a very weak one on D800e)
    – Better LCD screen (hopefully brighter).
    – Improvement (albeit likely minor) ISO performance.

    That all makes for a pretty compelling case to say this is the best all around photographic tool in the marketplace (lbs for lbs). We took an already very competent camera and have now improved it in the areas it needed it most.

    I too wish it was only 24Mp instead of 36, but it’s a minor quibble all things considered and what should be priced still less expensive than the competitor who *hasn’t* refreshed their camera yet; what’s to complain about?

    • Jeff Hunter

      You will quickly learn to appreciate the 36mp image as it greatly increases cropping potential. You will easily double the reach of your longest telephoto lens while maintaining image quality. And the detail is amazing!

      • Jon McGuffin

        Yes, I trust this advantage will easily offset the disadvantages of requirements of disc space, slow editing performance, and the need to use only the finest glass made to pull all the perfect detail out of all those pixels. 36Mp comes with it’s benefits and downsides, but I consider those to be somewhat of a wash.

        • Jeff Hunter

          I download my files to LR5 and convert to DNG. Files sizes are usually around 40mbs per image. My previous camera was a D90. I really don’t notice a significant increase in the time the computer takes to handle the D800 files vs. the D90 files. Enjoy!

          • Sundra Tanakoh

            Ditto, Jeff.

          • Michiel953

            Exactly. After migrating from the D700 to the D800 I did need a RAM increase to 12GB though. An external SSD would be even better.

      • guest789

        You cannot resolve 36MP on D800 (D800E can in ideal conditions): it is a myth or misunderstanding. The best lens on D800 in ideal conditions resolves 29P-Mpix only (refer to DxOMark or http://nikonrumors.com/2014/05/26/best-lenses-for-the-nikon-d800e-camera.aspx/). If you use D800 with a zoom lens indoors (when the high ISO setting will eat up details or, in other words, will reduce the resolution) for action photography (when the motion blur reduces the resolution even more) and you shoot handheld, you will get about 10 Mpix at best.

        Try to shoot indoors an ISO resolution chart, which is moved around you by an assistant, and you will be disappointed: even Nikon D4S hailed as a “king” of action will fail to resolve enough. As an action shooter, I need 2 f-stops better low ISO performance than D4S to cover most of indoors actions, such as dancing. Have you ever tried to take pictures of dancing bride and groom in a dimly lit environment (obviously without flash to preserve the beautiful ambient light)? Try to simulate it at home, and then you will be really disappointed with current best DSLRs. There is even a more simple test: take your camera, set ISO to auto, aperture to f8.0 or f5.6, shutter speed to 1/250 and look at the ISO when you walk around your house: it is about 25,600 or so. Do you know what the resolution in P-Mpix you will get at such ISO? Low, or extremely low. And these settings are typical for indoor action photography (for example children running around the house).

        For action photography, 36MP is ballast that affects the action performance of the camera. If you need a camera suitable for every type of shooting, starting from still scenes in a controlled environment in a studio and ending with fast action indoors, you need to sacrifice MPs. It is a trade off: MPs vs. action. The last such a camera from Nikon was D700, which delivered the best bang for the buck, and is outdated today. D4S is simply too expensive for me.

        “I do not share your view, but I would die for your right to express it” (the original is “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”).

        • Jeff Hunter

          You’ve acquired some misunderstandings along the way. Do you even own a D800?

        • Me

          You’ve clearly never scanned 35mm slides. Good low ASA slide film gets you into the mid 30 MPs.

    • Arsen

      I went from 16mp to 24mp and now 36mp with D800E.. I can’t imagine going back to 24mp or less on a Full Frame camera. The resolution and IQ is the best I have seen and ability to crop is one of the best aspects of it. You can always reduce a the size as needed. With good SSD drives and lots of memory, there is no issues with handling the raw files. The people who complain about processing time are people who don’t own the D800/E.. I also own a 24mp Sony A6000 and there is very little difference in editing the raw files between 24mp and 36mp..

      • neversink

        Yu haven’t used a D4 then. i love my D800, but the D4 is even better.

        • Arsen

          Never owned the D4, but I have used my friends for 2 days (not the S).. Very nice camera, great IQ, but for my needs, the D800E was the camera made me switch from Canon to Nikon and sell all my gear. The other factor for me is that I don’t like the weight and size of a grip. Its all personal preference, wants and needs. All great camera’s ..

          • neversink

            I agree. Bothe are great cameras. I had to pick up my girls in Paris and chose to take the D800 with me for weight and because I wasn’t on assignment. But man, there is quite a difference in the look of the images of the two cameras….

  • Daniel

    Made in Thailand is a deal breaker for Professional line like this D810

    • Jon McGuffin

      If this is the case, how does this explain the giant success of the professional “D300s” 100% made in Thailand.

    • broxibear

      Hi Daniel,
      It might be a “deal breaker” for some people, but if it’s made to the same standard as the D800/E and is problem free, I think the “made in” stumbling block will be forgotten very quickly.
      If on the other hand there are problems with build quality or a fault, then the shit will hit the fan.

      It’s also a problem Nikon themselves created by suggesting in marketing that products from Japan were superior in some sort of way, I guess at that stage they didn’t see themselves making cameras in Thailand and China.

    • bgbs

      Not at all. Last time I checked all Nikon pain and suffering came from Japan’s R&D where all the design flaws were introduced, can you imagine if Nikon moves its production to Japan as well. Not only will we see design flaws, but manufacturing flaws as well. So as the 20 century wisdom says, “Don’t put all your egss in one basket”. That means don’t move your R&D and Manufacturing to the same location.

    • Adrian Gopal

      So?.. My D90 is 6 years old.. shot over 375000 frames.. my D7100 is now 7 months old and pushing 2000 frames.. coz AW1 (which is made in Indonesia) has taken 15000 frames.. The super popular iPhone is made in China. The country of origin where it is made isn’t really that important if the QC is good.

      • Global

        It sometimes matters. Its not actually ethical to support Chinese manufacturing at all — considering the Chinese government has a policy to steal technology from all other nations using Military technology.

        If you setup a tech factory in China, like Nikon has done — you are literally burning the futures of the Japanese, German, American, and Taiwanese people, who the Chinese are stealing from, by propping up their kleptocratic theft system.

        But hey, if a $10 cheaper lens made in China instead of Japan is worth having China lead the world, instead of Europe and Japan — then by all means, lets have our stuff built there.

        When the Chinese create the worlds next best camera system, with a mishmash of Japanese and Western technologies stolen straight from the Japanese and Western computers, and having the factories and workers right on their shore, trained by Nikon personally, then Nikon will know what it means to shoot oneself in the foot.

        Perhaps better Thailand than China, until the Chinese start protecting IP rights with sincere enforcement! Otherwise, there is no tech company that should build there, except at the lowest levels of manufacturing.

        • Adrian Gopal

          I do agree with you in regards to IP protection.. I remember how Huawei basically took Cisco code and built routers and switches with reversed engineered code.

          But when most people cringe about a product not being made in Japan, it is more to do with perceive quality that a product made in Japan is better in terms of quality/craftsmanship than if the same product is manufactured in China for example.

          Though what many people forget, a digital camera is made out of thousands of components that maybe manufactured by 10s-100s of different contract manufacturers (all over the world), and all shipped to be assembled in a factory, like in this case, a factory in Thailand. Yes, granted that some components like maybe fabrication of the body may be done in Thailand itself, it would follow automation procedures and equipment that has been in use for the same purposes as it would in Japan.

          And lets be honest, China seems like the biggest culprit of IP stealing, but all countries, including companies based in countries with strong IP laws have/had/or are possibly also doing the same. Not outrightly perhaps. Many companies have R&D teams that sit down, and break down a product from a competing company to see what makes that product so. Then perhaps not outrightly copy the product, but engineer something/somehow that can give the same in their own products.

          I have more qualms about buying a product being manufactured with cheap labour (child labour/repressive labour conditions) than buying a product that is simply just not made in Japan.

  • D810

    As Nikon has done it for the D600…. will they take back all the D800/E with the unfixed AF problem and replace them with a new D810?

    • doge

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

      No.

  • PGi

    The management team is really retarded, they should read what Thom Hogan has to say about it. Many of us are not willing to use the d800 but as a compromise. Too early unnecessary update to the 800 and 600, but ignoring the really need update kind of cameras , e.g, the d2x and d700 forever, and when will we eventually get new 300 and 400mm f4?

    • Jeff Hunter

      What?

  • Funduro

    B&H out of D800’s.

    Get ready to order, man your keyboards, close excess browser tabs, select home page of online retailer, ready, set, go !

    • Sundra Tanakoh

      Why?

  • Daniel D

    New rumors from Canon – I’ve read about the new 7D Mk II will hit the market at Photokina and the most significant upgrade will be the 24Mp full frame sensor. Will be made in Japan and will have both built in Wi-Fi and GPS. Does anybody know anything more?

    • just me

      and you are posting this question on NIKONRumors INSTEAD of CANONRumors.com why???? lol

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Those rumors have been circulating longer than the D400 rumors.

    • bgbs

      Well, every time Canon rumors surface it is always something very revolutionary. There is a lot more hype than substance in these rumors. The reason being is that Canon folks are hungry for some big change, so any rumor that comes out, gets boosted like a back illuminated sensor.

  • Mockys2k

    I’ve been anxiously waiting for this update for quite some time. I
    didn’t jump on the D700 when it came out and I’ve been holding out till a
    suitable replacement came out.

    SO…now that this is getting
    ready for announcement, I want to package it with a lens. (24-70 f/2.8
    ideally). Do some websites still do the package discount? (I thought
    B&H gave a $200 discount back in the day).

    • Jon McGuffin

      Lens rebates come and go throughout the year, you just have to be patient until they roll back around again.

      • Mockys2k

        Agree. I think when the 810 comes out I will be initially ordering the body only since they don’t seem to have any bundle discount and unlike Canon, there is no rebate on the 24-70

    • Michiel953

      Why exactly would the D810 be a more suitable successor to the D700 than the D800?

  • photoroto

    Have any of you hackers here found the string “Nikon D810″ lurking in Lightroom 5.5?

    If there’s a reason for me to wait, it’s the availability of LR support for the raw format. Since LR 5.5 was released just a few days ago, there could be a few months of wait for D810 raw support in LR version 5.6. NX2 does not thrill my soul, I much prefer LR which IMHO is hugely better.

    • neversink

      I doubt it. LR updates quite a bit to their raw support.

  • Alderaan

    I am a bit sick of video being such a big selling point in DSLR cameras, how much of the cost is lost to video capability? How much more could I get in a camera if I were able to remove any video capabilities and replace that with other still photo capability?

    • Guest

      Agreed!!

    • photoroto

      You might get FEWER still capabilities without video!

      Video is what drives these cameras toward faster and better processors. And that’s what it takes to teach these old doggies new tricks. For stills, the biggest recent beneficiary of video-driven tech is reduced noise levels, and of course the ability to pump giant files into those flash cards without undue delay.

      The dF needs to thank its video-brandishing brethren for its good low noise performance, even though now eclipsed by the video-rich A7S.

    • David Peterson

      This kind of ignorant thinking really annoys me, shows a lack of knowledge of both economics and engineering.

      Do you want your camera to have live view? Well, it is already most of the way implemented to having video then!

      And there *are* many sales which results from the video feature (for me it is the primary reason why I purchase a camera, they wouldn’t have got a sale otherwise! The Nikon D5200 is one of the best hybrid cameras on the market for video, from any manufacture). If you lose out on all those sales, then you have less customers to spread across the fixed costs, which translates directly to higher prices for *you*! Plus less sales means less market presence, which leads to less sales the next time round. And once again, higher costs for *you*!

  • droll

    I might gonna get this one if the reputed spec is true; if you can take pictures at 6fps, then this is going to be a true replacement for a D700. I skipped a D800 because it is slow as a toad and looks retarded compared to a 5D Mark III.

  • Sebastian Rasch

    Excitiiiing!!

    • http://molnarcs.500px.com Csaba

      Was that sarcasm?

      • Sebastian Rasch

        Nope.

  • neonspark

    4K will happen but I rather have perfect 1080p on this camera for now. give us RAW 1080p 60 out of the box without hacks like the ones the canon camp has to pull out. Give us high bit rates for when we use the internal codec. And 10bit out over HDMI uncompressed.
    basically I want the 1080p to look like a jpg still, not some muddy thing like the 5DmkIII and D800 produce out of the box. I don’t want to mess with firmware hacks.

  • mr. award

    Pretty frustrated over here until now. I was(am) a world renowned, award winning, destination (as in I shoot the exact same weddings but further from my home and do the photography for free in exchange for a free trip) pro tog back in the film days. I shot mainly hassies and bronies and some large formi. The quality was sufficient for my clients eyes. Digital has never looked right and all my tog bros seem to feel the same. I am sure hoping this release changes my views so I can finally get back into shooting like cray cray cray cray and up the photography game as a whole. A colleague and past student of mine works for a few sensor companies and he informed me about a new liquid based sensor made from algadimic sulphite gel compound-r. If this release is true and adopts that technology then you will have to take this new camera out of my cold dead hands. I am also excited about the possibility of having a walk around camera since I have also been refraining from walking as well. Cheers togs.

  • http://www.jeremy-dixon.com.au/ coloretric

    13hrs to go…

  • Chris

    i really want 4k video for all my nikon glass and a 2nd DSLR for event photography. Please be this. (owner of a D800)

  • bgbs

    Is this for real? We got a few hours to go, and no spec leaks?
    Be careful Nikonrumors, you’re going to be out of business soon if no leaks are reported.

    • peterortphoto

      Umm… look at the link to all the leaked specs posted above. lol

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I reported the specs months ago. What else do you need?

    • sure

      go to amazon and type d81 only, right away you can see nikon d810 in pull down suggestions, it’s coming, it’s coming…

    • Michiel953

      You’re new here? First time visitor, not used to reading for more than thirty seconds? Welcome!

  • tap0

    ISO Sensitivity 64-12800 as per Digicame Info.

  • Guest
    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      They reference NikonRumors.com

      • photoroto

        “Reference” such a polite word!

        A google search for D810 will show quite a bit of NR “referencing” both attributed and not attributed.

  • broxibear

    D810

    • broxibear
      • broxibear

        “The D810 now has the D4S’ Multi-CAM 3500FX 51-point AF system, which can
        be configured in 9-point, 21-point and 51-point coverage settings.”
        “810 Nikon has created a brand-new 36.3 megapixel sensor. Resolution
        wise, it’s no big change from the D800, which had a 36.2 megapixel
        sensor.”

        “new sensor and processing engine mean that the camera is faster, managing 5fps at full-resolution and up to 7fps when set to DX crop mode.”

        • broxibear

          £2700 body only in the UK

          • broxibear

            all images ©expertreviews.co.uk

        • sure

          thank you broxibear

        • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

          Thanks, broxibear! You’re awesome!

          I wonder what happened to the 6 FPS rumours.

        • Just Me

          Is this AF system different than the one in the D800 ?

          • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

            “improved”

      • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors
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