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Nikon D800 grey market for $2,200

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A new grey market/imported Nikon D800 camera is currently listed for $2,199.99 on eBay (free shipping through bigvalueinc). Please note that you will not get USA warranty, instead you will receive 1 year warranty from the BigValueInc store (see all of their Nikon listings).

A grey market/imported Nikon D7100 is listed for $845.

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  • http://democrab.com democrab

    BigValueInc is a little shady. Some years ago, I purchased an item from them via Amazon and asked if the product was under warranty (it wasn’t listed on their seller page). They said yes and agreed to add this information to their page; however, as soon as I rated the transaction on Amazon, they removed the warranty information from their seller page. I did receive the product and it never had issues, so I never had to deal with warranty. That said, it was clear after I made the purchase that these guys are not an authorized Nikon seller and the overall experience made me a little nervous.

  • 2cents

    It’s now listed for $2199.99.

    • Nas

      where !

      • 2cents

        at the same link as above.

        • Nas

          now that is a great price but I’m concerned about buying from there ! as it’s a grey market Camera

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      They dropped the price another $100, I updated the post.

      • Nas

        Do you recommend buying from this seller since I have read some negative reviews.

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          I think the seller is ok, you just have to understand that you are not getting a US warranty.

        • Andrew

          This seller has sold over 65,000 items and has a 99% positive feedback. Now that is impressive!

    • NIk2133

      It’s now at $2,999!

  • chris

    i’ll wait for the $2000 refurbished deal again.. missed the first 2 this year but next one i’ll be first in line!

  • Nas

    I would not be comfortable ordering from this seller I have read some bad reviews, so I would rather go with a refer bushed one from Adroma or BH photo! but this is a great price at your own risk !

    • Spy Black

      What makes you think they’re any more reliable?

      • Nas

        Adroma & BH ? they have a great reputation great customer service.

        • Spy Black

          That wasn’t my question. I suppose I worded it incorrectly however. What I really meant is what makes you think B&H and Adorama don’t pull stuff off like this?

          • Nas

            Adroma and BH receive the refurbished cameras from Nikon Directly, plus it comes with 30 days refund policy, but you will have to pay the shipping costs, and it comes with 90 days nikon warranty, you can go to their website and read the reviews of the people that bought it.

            • Spy Black

              I don’t know how long you’ve been dealing with those guys, but refurbished stock is not what I meant.

            • Nas

              Go read the reviews for this seller, with all do respect to Nikon Rumors I think they should check these deals before posting them and let people fall in to the trap.

  • ron

    so what is the main difference between this and a refurb?

    • Nas

      Ref comes with 90 days warranty from Nikon, this will come with no Nikon warranty but the store will give you 1 year warranty, so if something went wrong you would send it to the store not nikon.

  • Tarek

    I got the d7000 through them 3 months back, there is no tag on the camera, maybe it is black market cameras.

    • AbeLincoln

      NO! It is a Grey Market.

  • Rhonbo

    IMO it’s better to get a refurbished unit at a similar price if you live in the US.

  • Rhonbo

    Also if you have any issues with the camera Nikon won’t touch it, you have to use the third party repair facility.

    • Read the FAQ

      You beat me to it. :-)

    • Rhonbo

      Another thing is, even though you only get 90 days from Nikon with a refurbished unit you can at least get Nikon to work on it at your cost later on if needed. With gray market you also have less resale value because there is no recourse at all except to find and send the camera to a third party repair facility. I’m sure there are some good ones but I don’t know of any.

    • bob smith

      now that nikon wont sell parts to third party repair centers you might not be able to get a grey market product repaired if there is a faulty part. i just went through this with a grey market lens. nikon is really trying to squeeze out grey market

      • Rob

        Great then I get a new camera.

  • Read the FAQ

    I was told by Nikon USA directly that they will not service any grey market serial number cameras, warranty or not. Note the second line in the paragraph below.

    “Nikon Inc. USA cannot provide any technical support or warranty service on Gray Market items. Additionally Nikon Inc. USA cannot perform any fee-based repair work on Gray Market items. Please do not contact Nikon Inc. USA for help with any Gray Market products. Please contact the reseller or importer of your Gray Market items for warranty and service
    information as well as software updates and downloads.”

    • Nkn – US bites

      F Nikon USA. We are the client!

  • Mansgame

    The warranty from the store is pretty meaningless since only Nikon sells parts to repair cameras.

    • Rob

      How is that the customers problem?

      • Mansgame

        Well, in a perfect world, they’d replace it with a new one. In the real world they’ll give the customer the run around or not really fix the problem, or fix it with 3rd party parts.

        • Rob

          Sounds like NIkon

  • Joseph Li

    I wouldnt touch a gray market DSLR, definitely not worth the discount you get, unless it’s like 1/4 the price then perhaps. I witnessed Nikon USA turned away a customer at the customer counter in Los Angeles who bought a European camera on amazon.com even if he is willing to pay money to fix it. The Nikon rep actually said you might want to ship to Nikon EU to see if they will service your camera….
    This is no big deal a few years back because independent repair stations can still repair your gray market Nikon. But Nikon in recent years stop selling all parts to these stations so they stopped fixing Nikons. Really sucks for gray market camera owners.
    Lenses and flash is less of an issue because a lot of stations out there can still repair it as long as they have access to parts.

    • J. Dennis Thomas

      Nikon stopped supplying part to lenses and flashes too. I had to send my SB-900 in to get a new flashtube. Something that the shop could fix in an hour, because Nikon won’t source the parts. I needed a small bushing to fix one of my 17-35 AF-S/D lens and same thing, small fix, but no parts. What would have cost me $100 ends up costing about $500.

      The days of Nikon Authorized Repair Centers are long gone.

      • Joseph Li

        Wow..that’s horrible. Should stay with US market for all products then

      • Ronan

        True, but it doesn’t cost anything more except for shipping. I don’t know why you ended up paying a LOT more.

        My local NSC stop having parts around 2-3 years ago, and now has to send stuff to the bigger center. It cost me around $50 more (shipping back & forth) but that’s it.

        • J. Dennis Thomas

          I ended up paying a LOT more because the Nikon simply charges more for labor than my local camera shop does. Plus I had to wait for about 2 months to get it back. In the end it didn’t matter because I wasn’t paying for it (long story).

          In the long run, I’d rather pay a local repairmen who has been authorized to fix my stuff then send it in to Nikon who probably outsources the labor and ships it of to some other country to get it done cheaper. If I can help a local guy pay his rent rather than pay a corporate execs bonus, I’d rather do that.

          • nobody cares

            That wasn’t my experience. I sent a lens off to an authorized repair center (there were none local) because I thought it’d be faster. Several weeks later they sent it to Nikon. It would have been cheaper to send it to Nikon (not much less, but less).

    • Aeroengineer

      Does this mean that if you buy new Nikon equipment from an authorized reseller in one market, say Germany, and then move to another, say the USA, that Nikon USA will not service it?

      • lorenzo

        When I came to the US from Europe, 30+ years ago, I
        had to sell all my Nikon equipment despite I had all warranties with me that proved that it was bought at authorized dealers. Nikon didn’t even bother cleaning my F2, even if I was willing to pay for the service!

        • Ronan

          Next time you can do a warranty transfer…

          I did that with my D300 bought in the US. Before moving to Canada i had some paperwork done for it at a Nikon service center. I think i paid $25.

      • El Aura

        It appears that way. That warranties aren’t always valid worldwide isn’t uncommon. Apart from internal accounting bureaucracy being the culprit, this allows companies to sell their products at a higher price in countries where the market will bear it (or all your competitors are in on it as well).

        What is really a dick move is to also refuse repairing items at out-of-warranty prices. It’s a bit like doctors refusing to treat patients without insurance even if the patients are willing and able to pay for it.

  • Chad Hsieh

    Buying grey import is just about risk tolerance. If the price is cheap enough to warrant the chance that the camera may have problems then buy it. I’m sure if the camera came dead on arrival you can get a refund, at least you’re protected through ebay. My opinion is that if the camera came working, the chance of it malfunctioning in the period that you would normally be covered under local warranty is pretty small.

    • Andrew

      doesn’t change the fact that Nikon might not bother with you when you want a new shutter…

      • Rob

        Yeah Nikon shutters are known for needing replacement. Not.

        • Andrew

          Isn’t it a good idea to have one replaced when it’s reached it’s expected shutter count?

          • Rob

            No if its still running fine, you count yourself lucky and try and go for the record of Nikon body with the most shutter actuations with an original shutter. Nikon will probably give you a prize or buy the camera. :) But no seriously you wouldn’t replace the shutter unless it was giving you problems or you wanted to spend money. By the time you hit 150,000 shots on a Df you could probably buy a low use body or a referb for the price of shutter replacement.

            • Andrew

              Uh..I thought we were discussing a D800 on the main post.

              Anyway, I thought it was recommended to replace the shutter on heavily used bodies that see regular heavy use and actually hit those numbers. Preventative maintenance.

              That being said a shutter replacement doesn’t cost as much as a refurb…even a D3 shutter shouldn’t cost nearly as much as a refurb unit right now.

  • Bob Loblaw

    I’m a little new to “grey markets” (and by no means interested in purchasing via this method), and have a two-part question. BigValueInc has created a grey market. Was it legal for them to have created this grey market, and can Nikon do anything about it?

    • J. Dennis Thomas

      Grey market is legal. It just means that the seller has not been authorized as a NIkon reseller. BVI may have a retailer that sells the cameras at cost to them. It’s not illegal to resell new cameras.

      Grey market gear has been around for decades. B&H sells grey market stuff. I bought my Nikon F90x from B&H listed new as a grey market camera back in the 90′s.

      Of course back then it was easy to distinguish grey market from US because the the Euro models were F and the US models were N (e.g. the F90x was the Euro version of the USA N90s).

      • J. Dennis Thomas

        Oh, and the F90x still works perfectly.

      • Bob Loblaw

        Thank you for the information. It was helpful. Cheers.

      • spicynujac

        B&H is an authorized dealer and they sell both US warranty and grey market versions of several Nikon products. Grey market has to do with the source of the supply, not the retailer selling the supply.

  • Rhonbo

    So far from the posts below we can see that buying Gray Market in the US is very unwise and risky. You could get stuck with a body that can not get repaired anywhere except in Europe if even that. taking that risk just to save a few hundred dollars is not worth it. For in-expensive items maybe but $2,000 + not me.

  • Saffron Blaze

    Well, if it drives down prices even a bit we all win.

    • Squidward

      Unless you already own one and just realised Nikon USA are taking you for a ride

  • Squidward

    So Nikon are artificially inflating the price in the US. Big Value must be making money still, so from which market are they sourcing cheaper cameras? Why are we paying $3K for a camera that someone overseas can sell for 1/3 less? I’m considering a backup body at that price.

    • Andrew

      Nikon has an expensive support network in the United States. Plus there is marketing cost incurred. And the dealers have to make some money selling the product. Now add to that all of the expensive lawyers they need in order to meet all types of US regulations in addition to ongoing business, patent, and legal counseling. Now see that building below, and you will get an idea that there is a massive organization in the United States that supports their products. I am confident that the cost of doing business in the US for a major corporation is much greater than the cost in Japan.

      About Nikon:
      http://www.nikonusa.com/en/About-Nikon/index.page

      • DrunkenRant

        Well they could save a ton of money by being located in upstate NY. Heck if they left NY state altogether they could find cheaper rent and lower taxes.

      • AM

        “massive organization in the United States that supports their products.”
        D800 AF issues, D600 dust and oil issues…..meanwhile at Nikon’s USA headquarters, crickets chirping.

      • http://www.gradyphoto.com/ Pete Grady

        They need “expensive lawyers” in America in order to protect themselves from greedy “entrepreneurs” trying to go around the Nikon distribution system that is set up so that the local camera store has the the same opportunity to make a little money as the big national retailers. As for the cost of distribution in Japan, you really need to learn something. It is, as is the case with almost everything in Japan, an antiquated system of mandatory levels of exchange between an ascending order of wholesalers. Here are a couple of sources that explain: http://www.nber.org/chapters/c8479.pdf

        http://luhman.org/japanese-reports/sell-to-japan/030-japans-complex-distribution-system

      • Squidward

        Is the support network anywhere else in the world less expensive? What kinds of regulations do US model D800s have to meet that European ones don’t? You’re talking nonsense. The prices are too high, and their stance on grey market repairs (paid repairs) smacks of protectionism. What if a photo journalist on assignment in the US needs a repair done? Is it his fault that he bought what Nikon USA consider a ‘grey market’ camera in his home country?

        • nobody cares

          That’s not how it works. If the photo journalist bought it in Croatia, they’ll honor the warranty if he has a receipt. I suspect the way this works is a company buys more product than they can use to get a discount. They sell the excess off at cost (or close to it) and then those buyers sell them on eBay or wherever.

          If you’re willing to go around authorized channels, you can save tons on Audio equipment too (speaker are marked up 100% and the rest is marked up almost 70%).

          You’re paying for the warranty. For speakers and receivers, I’d go gray, but not for a D800

        • nobody cares

          That’s not how it works. If I go to Japan and buy a D800, Nikon USA will cover it, so long as I have a receipt from Japan. The seller (or the seller’s seller) bought extra bodies to get a discount and the extras are sold for little or no profit.

          If you’re willing to
          go around authorized channels, you can save tons on Audio equipment too
          (speakers are marked up 100% and most other Audio is marked up around 70%).

          You’re paying for the warranty. For speakers and receivers, I’d go gray, but not for a D800.

          • Squidward

            Forget the waranty, I’m talking about paying for a repair. If I have a faulty command dial, I expect to be able to go to Nikon (in any country) and get a repair done. I don’t expect to be told “Its not a US model, F*@k off.”

            • Wrong

              Gray market is a product that has gone outside of the distribution channels.
              When Nikon sends their cameras to America, they ensure the correct cables and power supply and in the box, ensure the packaging complies with the strict rules of your terrible country etc etc.

              Now, if a camera has found it’s way to America via another channel not supported by Nikon, they have no idea what might have happened to that camera in the mean time. Perhaps someone swapped parts out, putting old in and taking new out for themselves (dead battery, old lens).

              Why should Nikon be liable for you buying a product which is outside of their control, and then you realise your battery is dead 2 months later and demand a replacement for free.

              Thats not fair on Nikon.

              On a side not, also whats not fair on Nikon is the entire american race mispronouncing their company name. Its just damn right disrespectful to call someone/something by the wrong name repeatedly. It just also shows how fecking dumb you are. Get a passport.

  • Davis5

    I dont know the US Law, but in the first 12 monts the Nikon Italy and other subsidiairies in europe MUST to cover the international warranty…
    Nikon Italy extend the warranty at 36 or 48 month in a large amount of nikon product, my D800 have 48 month…

    • Davis5

      (medium price 2700-2900 euro)

    • E.J. Peiker

      The USA has no such laws.

  • Tim

    The servicing risk is often reflected in the costs of grey goods. The biggest damage is that done to your local camera stores. In the Uk we are lucky to work on a 5% margin from Nikon. In fact when I worked for a previous store (now one of many that have closed in the Uk) we sold the Nikon D3s for a £50 loss. Grey importers such as digitalrev don’t pay the import duties and taxes attached to the goods and thus can undercut official stores and still make margin. The only way official stores can compete is by loosing money. The danger is that there will not be anywhere to get advice or handle the product before buying if grey importers are incouraged. I speak from experience, these offers will kill off local dealers.

    • http://www.gradyphoto.com/ Pete Grady

      Ah, capitalism…the perfect economic system.

  • Tim

    *Encouraged even.

  • Larrry

    Buying grey market is too risky, and usually without sufficient ‘savings’. Most of the ones advertised at B&H cost the same after paying shipping when shipping is included on USA models. With others. the savings evaporates as they push overpriced 3rd party insurance that may not ne able to get the parts to deliver.
    There were two questions I had about warranty coverage since it applies to the “original purchaser”. Simply giving as a gift voids warranty? Apparently not as long as the gift recipient has the receipt (presumably gift receipt without price) showing the place of purchase as well as the original warranty paperwork packed in the box. I guess that would also work – with either the actual or gift receipt – when buying a camera required for the lens discount, then ebaying the camera.
    The other one I asked a Nikon rep when he was in a local camera store, and presume is accurate – but he is a SALES rep. Specifically, if on vacation or a paid shoot in Europe and all your gear is stolen, requiring immediate replacement. Is it covered by NikonUSA. Obviously it would be if happened to Joe McNallly and the pull he would have with Nikon, but how about everybody else? Apparently so according to the Rep AS LONG AS you presented a receipt that was from an authorized dealer under that country’s distributorship – and NikonUSA has a list. What is disconcerting is that is not in writing anywhere that I can see.

  • Dweeb

    And remember, Nikon and the seller are still both making profit on the $2200.

  • R!

    D800 will be around 2000$ with no deffect and firmware finalized next summer yum, yum!!!!!!

  • Robert Daniels

    Puleasse do NOT even entertain Grey market equipment especially at this price point. with the focusing issues that D800 may have had in the past, you can best believe these same bodies will have similar problem x2. Let me ask anyone the particular question. ” Have you ever regretted paying for some that has sufficiently met your wants/needs, especially if that item have delivered time and time again.” ah…. NO!! You indeed get what you pay for.

    • José Santos

      José santos

      For non-US costumers it makes perfect sense to buy grey/imported market items, cause it is pointless to have the 5y USA warranty, that only “works” in US. When i travel to USA i only buy grey market items (done that several times at BH), and all i get is the standard international warranty of 1 year (in EU is 2 years). The equipment is EXACTLY the same as the USA one, only not provided via Nikon USA. For the folks from USA makes no sonse at all to buy grey market, and not having the 5 year USA warranty.

      • Robert Daniels

        WRONG! And I myself have been a victim of Grey market items. I got gray market lenses at one point when I bypassed the U.S. warranty for a Mack Warranty that lasted 7 years for the lens. it was at the time a 28-70 and an 80-200 thus the total was nearly 3500.00 at the time. Well when I tested the results on my F5 at the time I got pictures back from the lab that had a brownish tint. I checked the result against a Sigma 28-105 that I had bout months prior and the SIGMA KILLED it. I knew something was wrong. I started looking and found the serial numbers were different. I had a 50mm/1.8 and noticed that the serial number started with a U.S.xxxx number while the new lenses did not. Again it was NOT my intention to purchase gray market in the first place! I called Nikon rep who passed me to the technician I told what seemed to be happening with the color etc. then I shared with him the serial number anomaly. From there he asked where I had purched from. when I told him Camera City out of NY. HE Balked and said they ripped me off with gray market items. Hwe said when they offered me an extended warranty (mack) over the U.S. warranty they switched the lenses. giving my non certified U.S. lenses. The hair went up my neck. Long story short I contacted Camera City exposed their shenanigans and threatened to sue and expose. They told me send lenses back. I did at their expense and a 8 days later received my U.S. Certified lenses. I even contacted Nikon rep to cross reference. once verified I tested the lenses and low and behold the out classed my sigma that I had the way that they were supposed to. I will never ever sacrifice getting inferior equipment.

        • Robert Daniels

          by the way I live in Bermuda. However I get all itms shipped to my U.S. based address. :)

          • José Santos

            Robert, i guess that they all come from the same factory, just getting different “number method” if they are supposed to go to US. You can confirm that with Nikon Japan. They are not made specially for Us than to the rest of the world.
            But i agree with you, if you live in USA it makes sense to buy only US equipment.
            Living in EU and buying in USA (when travelling) makes no sense at all to buy USA equipment (unless is the same price – which happens quite often), cause the extended warranty it’s only valid in US, and not in EU.

            • Robert Daniels

              From what I understand from the nikon tech rep is that although the lenses come from Japanese manufacturer when the arrive at Nikon USA they go through another line of testing and quality assurance. If the lenses do not pass the test they are taken out of circulation. If there are minor imperfections they are passed off as gray market. TBH when you get gray market you just do not know what you are getting. Amazon for instance states the following: “Gray Market” typically means the market in the US for products produced for sale in countries other than the US (or another country). Importers purchase these products more cheaply in those markets and then import them into the US to sell them at prices lower than the same or similar items produced specifically for the US market. These products may be of different quality, than versions produced for US markets – either better or worse. If a producer no longer provides a specific product to the US market, the “gray market” is often the only way to get that specific item..”
              All I know I wont ever get ‘Grey market items” Hell to the NO WAY!”

            • José Santos

              There is not one answer – it’s a personal choice.
              I totally agree with you, i have bought one US lens in BH that was only 20$ more than the grey one. Sometimes is more 100/200$, but this is only for the extended warranty. Do you really think that BH would sell very expensive equipment as grey, if they were not sure about the quality of it? I don’t think so.
              Also you have some examples, for sure, from US faulty equipment – it happens time to time to someone.
              The “US mark” only means that was introduced to the market via Nikon USA, that’s it.
              Resuming, all i which is that all the equipment, yours, mine, etc., will be in perfect conditions to use, cause its very expensive and all we have to work hard to get it. ;-)
              It has been a nice conversation, Robert, have to go back to work.
              Nice to “meet” you, from the other side of the ocean – Portugal!!!
              Happy shooting!

  • One More Thought

    Obviously everyone will make their own decision based on their risk tolerance, budget, etc.

    However, my personal opinion is this: if I am able and willing to spend over $2000 US on any item, then will spend a few hundred dollars more to buy the real deal from a known reputable dealer. It’s not worth the risk.

    If you are having a tough time affording this camera, then perhaps you shouldn’t buy it in the first place, as you will also have to buy lenses, etc for it.

  • 103David

    I’m always amazed at all those willing to spirit multiple thousands of dollars off Into the aether (AKA the internet) without even knowing what “Gray-Market” means.

  • gericoaro

    back to 3k$… without warranty… good job bigvalueinc

  • photoroto

    These warranty issues make me very wary of buying a used D800, or any used Nikon equipment. Is there a service somewhere where one can readily verify the warranty status of used Nikon stuff?

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