< ! --Digital window verification 001 -->

Nikon Coolpix A at DxOMark

Nikon-Coolpix-A-DxOMark-test-results-3
Nikon-Coolpix-A-DxOMark-test-results-5

This has been a DxOMark week - another set of test results were published today for the Nikon Coolpix A compact camera. The smallest APS-C camera today outperforms many other compact/mirrorless cameras and comes close to the capabilities of the D5200 and D7100 DSLRs in terms of high ISO and dynamic range performance. DxOMark's conclusion:

"The Nikon Coolpix A high-end compact offers similar or better image quality to many entry-level or mid range DSLRs, and although bettered by the higher resolution D5200 or D7100 DSLRs and the Pentax K-5 series, the Coolpix A still makes the top 10 for APS-C cameras."

Several other comparisons of the Coolpix A camera with other models:

Nikon-Coolpix-A-DxOMark-test-results-2
Nikon-Coolpix-A-DxOMark-test-results
Nikon-Coolpix-A-DxOMark-test-results-4

This entry was posted in Nikon Point and Shoot and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. Trackbacks are closed, but you can post a comment.
  • tertius_decimus

    Stop posting here this DxO crap!

    • HotDuckZ

      Stop posting here, Cannot fucking boy.

    • No longer Pablo Ricasso

      And also… how does it compare with the 5D3?

      • http://www.facebook.com/larry.gray.12914 Larry Gray

        Since the fanboy asked…
        The 5D3 placed well below the D800/E, D600 and even below the D5200 and D7100. With an overall score of 81, it equaled the entry level D3200 and beat the Coolpix A by 1 point. Nice flagship Canon has there!
        Actually, looking at the entire Canon line, fanboys should shy away from using the word “Canon” and “DxO” in the same sentence.

        • mypobox

          Well said

        • Cos

          Yes, DxO results are very misleading.

    • St.

      What exactly do you have against it?

      • tertius_decimus

        Zero credibility.

        • Dan

          DXO just bunch of BS

          • lorenzo

            I claim my copyright, I said that first a while ago LOL

      • Cos

        Test results are very misleading.

    • AM

      Don’t like it? Then put up your own site and post whatever you like, and don’t come around here no more.

      • 800mm f/2.8 DX VR

        GREAT IDEA! :D

      • sk

        +1

      • Cos

        That’s not about websites but about credible information. DxO info is inconsistent and cannot be taken seriously. However, i agree with you, there are not many site presenting these types of comparisons in a convenient way.

    • Cos

      +1

  • No longer Pablo Ricasso

    Whouch!!!
    Can I have that with a hole where the lens was, please?

  • Adam

    No matter how you cut it, this is a pretty damn impressive result.

    • No longer Pablo Ricasso

      This is similar to what they found with the D7100, that it was the same
      sensor and processing as the D5200. In this case, the camera scores
      essentially the same as the D7000 or D5100 because it is essentially the
      same exact sensor. This and the full frame Sony will bring a Leica
      style of performance and shooting to people who are only familiar with
      camera phones and point and shoots. Undoubtedly, photographers who are
      used to carrying much larger packages will also find this useful for
      many situations. The manufacturers will also use this as a stepping
      stone to interchangeable lens cameras with updated similar sensors. And
      that is a good thing, even if it adds confusion to the marketplace.

      Possibly the most confusing thing is whether to grab this or a Nikon 1.

      • TelegramForMongo

        I’ve been carrying a much larger package around my whole life, I don’t see how a camera is supposed to help me with that.

        • Ronan

          Bazinga!

  • ILU Nikon

    DxO lost all credibility when they wouldn’t test the Nikon 14-24 mm and the Nikon 70-200 VRII in their comparisons.

    • Adam

      Lost ALL credibility? Really? Perhaps you are over-blowing the situation a bit, considering that is one test among the several hundred that they’ve done to date? Jesus christ, this comments section is almost as bad as DPReview.

      • ILU Nikon

        Baaaa! Baaaa! Love when you Sheeple defend your precious DxO!

        • No longer Pablo Ricasso

          You will be happy when they say that your wide angle lens is the best there ever was… In 2016.

        • Kenny

          Lol “sheeple”… says the guy jumping on the DxO bashing bandwagon.

          • ILU Nikon

            “LOL” – there are some people like myself that are capable of independent thought. Did you see why I am “bashing” DxO? Maybe you need to get your IQ tested, Kenny G!

            • Kenny

              DxO has pros and cons. The real sheeple are the ones who cry any time DxO doesn’t score their cameras/lenses high enough. There are lots of you, so join the herd, Lou.

            • ILU Nikon

              Again you either fail to understand or are incapable of doing so. DxO purposely EXCLUDES certain top lenses from their tests, making their tests moot! Savvy, mon ami? Jeez…

            • Kenny

              Yes. Not testing a couple of lenses makes their camera tests moot. Nice logic you got going there, Lou. Good thing you’re around to straighten that stuff out.

            • El Aura

              What do they gain by excluding top lenses? I see, they gain the publicity that highly irritable people like you give them. Devious, devious.

            • ILU Nikon

              What do they gain? Let’s see – they might be receiving kick-backs from manufacturers to boost the sales of other lenses that might not be doing so well. This way sheeple like you will look at their tests and choose to buy an inferior lens since your sweetheart DxO listed it. Never mind that the 14-24 mm or the 70-200 mm are not listed. Baaaaaaa, baaaaaaaaaa

            • Arkasai

              I like the picture you paint of these DxO optics engineers as gangbangin’, kick-back takin’, orchestrators of mass deception. You don’t know why it’s taking so long to test these popular lenses, so it’s obvious there’s some elaborate corporate conspiracy and subterfuge going on, cause that’s the logical progression right?

              Actually those lenses are planned for testing so your whole “DxO purposely wants to decieve us!” argument just fell apart.

            • ILU Nikon

              Gosh, you people really have a dearth of grey matter, don’t you Arkasai? If they had no ulterior motives, then they should’ve WAITED before publishing “Best WA lenses” and “Best telephoto lenses” for the D800. I guess that it’s too difficult for people with your IQ levels to even comprehend that small fact. Now crawl back under that bridge along with your fellow trolls and let people with an iota of sense respond to this issue. Man, this world is really dumbing down…

            • Arkasai

              I shouldn’t have to tell you this because you’re so much smarter than me but personal attacks and name calling are not surrogates for hard evidence in a debate. You took me back to grade school with those shots at my IQ though, it’s been a while. Also saying they should’ve waited before posting the article is a suggestion not a fact.

            • desmo

              calling them optics engineers is a reach..

              a real big reach

            • Arkasai

              I doubt you could sell the products and services they offer without employing teams of software and optics engineers. From their site: Image quality test operations support
              We support our DxO Analyzer customers in installing and operating their image quality evaluation lab. Our engineers and image specialists provide on-site training of your engineers and technicians so that they can confidently perform measurements to derive accurate and complete diagnoses of all tested devices.
              http://www.dxo.com/us/image_quality/services

            • El Aura

              The sensor characterisation that DxO does is something that everybody with precise enough control of lighting can measure themselves (though it is some work). And more than a few people have done it and always confirmed DxO’s results. Therefore, people who claim that DxO manipulates its results are just as relevant as the flatearthers. If somebody looks at the Earth from space and keeps claiming the Earth is flat, he or she is trying to escape from reality because this imagined reality just feels better.

            • El Aura

              The sensor characterisation that DxO does is something that everybody with precise enough control of lighting can measure themselves (though it is some work). And more than a few people have done it and always confirmed DxO’s results. Therefore, people who claim that DxO manipulates its results are just as relevant as the flatearthers. If somebody looks at the Earth from space and keeps claiming the Earth is flat, he or she is trying to escape from reality because this imagined reality just feels better.

            • Micah Goldstein

              Non, DX0 are not pros, and are in fact cons.

            • http://Flickr.com/inthemist InTheMist

              DxO’s methods are solid science.
              Wrap your “independent thought” around their test protocols for a bit.
              How much does the science have to do with the art of photography, however? Less than most people think.

            • ILU Nikon

              I like your comments in the past, so am surprised at your response too. My posts are based on the fact that they claim to list “Best UWA lenses” and “Best telephoto lenses” for the D800 and conveniently ignore to test the 14-24 and 70-200 VRII. Nothing to do with test protocols. My posts are not concerning the sensor tests, but rather their lens listings. And you are right, science has very little to do with the Art of Photography.

            • http://Flickr.com/inthemist InTheMist

              Well, I pretty much agree with that. Declaring the best without testing the the bread-and-butter lenses of the majority of working Nikon pros is a faux pas clear and simple.

              Sorry, i misunderstood. I thought you were on about the sensor stuff.

        • desmo

          Actually the “sheeple” are conflicted,
          DXO reviews a sensor….
          They love them

          DXO reviews a Nikon pro lens?????
          They hate them

      • WH Mitty

        You’d think this was a Tums site given all the belly-aching that goes on. Very amusing though.

      • Mansgame

        Yes, really.

    • El Aura

      So, unless a lens test site has tested all lenses that interest YOU, it has zero credibility? Go to any lens test site and they don’t have tested all available lenses.

      What you are saying is that everybody that doesn’t follow your priorities has no credibility. Or that your priorities represent the only rational solution.

      Whoa, against you most megalomaniac dictators look like humble people.

      • ILU Nikon

        Here comes another nutjob who doesn’t have a clue about the issue at hand. It’s not about testing ALL lenses that I want, Mary Poppins. But when DxO lists the “Best wide angle lenses for D800″ and then purposely chooses to leave out Nikon 14-24 mm or when they list the “Best telephoto lenses for D800″ and again chooses to test the Nikon 70-200 VR instead of the Nikon 70-200 VRII, then yeah, they have ZERO credibility. Understand or do you need to be spoon fed further? Reading comprehension a problem Snooki-in-training? Good Lord, more ADD nutjobs on here than in the Congress…

        • Swade

          And now we know why you support the liberals.

          • ILU Nikon

            Let me guess – you are a tea-bagger? Your lack of ability to debate and quoting “liberals” gave you away. Too bad for you that I am a Repub. Hopefully you haven’t reproduced – we don’t want more of your kind running around, polluting this earth.

      • Mansgame

        You’re embarrassing yourself Junior. 14-24mm is Nikon’s Best ultra wide angle lens and possibly the world’s best wide angle lens since Canon has nothing that comes close to it. So when having a title of “Best lens….”, not including it in the test loses ALL credibility.

    • Micah Goldstein

      They had credibility?

  • prometheus

    Great result. If it had a 35mm f/2 lens with an adapter for 28mm, VR, and focused as fast as the V1, I’d be all over it.

    • Micah Goldstein

      …meh, there are better options out there. Where m43 lags in the sensor, everything else has this beat. There are lots of sharp primes to choose from, and with the 14mm/2.5 mounted, the GX1 is about the same size. AND has the option of an EVF. The GF5 or E-PM2 might actually be smaller.

      Also, I haven’t seen it yet, but the Coolpix line usually has wildly different and horrid controls/menus compared to Nikon DSLRs. If this follows that trend, I’d avoid it. But, time will tell. Won’t know until your hands are on one (wouldn’t go Amazon on this)

      • Sam

        As the professional reviews noted, the A has an interface much the same as the DSLR line, so your criticism is unfounded on that front, and I’m not aware of any m43 cameras which will fit in a small pocket the way the A does. It’s a party camera, not a ‘system’ camera. There’s nothing else that can touch it in that form factor.

        • Micah Goldstein

          GF5 + 14/2.5 is about the same size, maybe smaller. The E-PM2 + 14/2.5 is actually smaller.

          If you don’t believe a stranger on the internet, go check it out in a store yourself. The panasonic cams focus bleeding quick too. I should know, since I own one. Or two.

    • Marty

      +1

    • mike kobal

      +1

  • DonD

    Only problem is… it’s a fixed 28mm. How hard would it be to put an Fmount on the front of that. Hey, how about a DIY kit for adding an Fmount. If it’s a DX sensor, why wouldn’t that work the same as a DX DSLR? Oh, it would crush the Vs and Js.

    • No longer Pablo Ricasso

      When they do, (NOT if they do) it will need to be a new mount, with new lenses. And yeah, there will be an adapter for F mount. And likely somebody will make an adapter for other brand…

      • DonD

        If the camera body is big enough for an APS-C sensor, then why couldn’t they just put a F mount on the front, other that to increase their profits.

        • Anonymous

          It would have to be literally twice as thick to have an F mount. At that point, why not just use a DSLR? This is meant to be a very compact camera.

        • http://www.facebook.com/barefootintactivist Barefoot Intactivist

          Two words: flange distance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance

          Even with a new mount, interchangeable lens will always be thicker than a fixed retractible lens like this little guy

  • PAPAROTZ

    WOW its just as good as a D7000…… Who F’n cares!?!?!? Now show me the test results with the 14-24mm and 70-200 VR2 Nikon lenses…. :P

    • No longer Pablo Ricasso

      As if you can’t see that for yourself?

  • iamlucky13

    No surprise. The D7000 sensor performs just like a D7000 for bit depth, noise, and dynamic range.

    I’m more curious about how the lens performs. Part of the idea behind a fixed focal length, permanent lens is the designers have to make almost no compromises in the optical design of the lens.

  • Aldo

    we need more dslr rumors because clearly most people here are angry.

    • http://Flickr.com/inthemist InTheMist

      True.

      I’ll admit, I’m not buying the Nikon A because its ugly.

  • Disiderio

    I take dcp results with a grain of salt. Let see this thing up against the x100s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/garry.bryant Garry Bryant

    Cool, just wish this was with interchangable lens!

    • KnightPhoto

      The IL model is waiting for the on-sensor PDAF. I wonder what the holdup is…

  • Tracht

    DxO is only testing the sensor. Believe what is being measured is appropriate. To back up the criticisms do others have information that at least twol independent measurements of the same parameters are consistently different than DxO?

  • 5DollarFootlong

    Damn, this camera is so impressive! Freaking thing is super small too. I can’t wait for Nikon to come out with more types of this gem. If Nikon comes with a 24mm (36mm dx) than I will be first in line!

    It’s good to be a Nikon shooter!

    • R!

      28 mm is the perfect focal for street photography(the purpose of this camera actually) plus 24 mm is more for landscape and always have more distortion and vignetting than a a 28mm,maybe It would have been good for others to get a 35mm but to me 28mm is almost a perfect choice,an interchangeable mirorless APSC camera beeing the perfect choice that is still missing,tough!!!!!

      • 5DollarFootlong

        Hey R! I agree with 24mm being too wide, I meant 24mm in DX = 36mm FX

  • Marco Santa Cruz

    a certain zoom lens will not be tested, because, nikon has asked dxo to not test it, lest they loose one of their highest profit grossing products, as for the new vrii 70-200, it’s the same story, it won’t score as high as most people think, and therefore, people will be okay with the vri… nikon will lose, and frankly, people will pay the extra for difference that is noticeable, not something that one has to scrutinize in a lab to say, hey, see , it is better, you get a 1µ difference, from 6µ to 7µ densities, blah blah blah…

    c’mon, DxO omits, because it benefits them, they make money from selling their lens correction software, so it only makes sense that they test lenses accurately so as to implement the correct ‘algorithms’ for such software.

    • desmo

      you can’t be serious

    • BroncoBro

      Anyone basing their decision to buy or not to buy a lens based on DXO is, in my opinion, very short-sighted and needs to attend a seminar in self confidence building. If it’s a big purchase, rent it, try it and decide from there. Most of the criteria DXO uses for assessing the quality of lenses has little to nothing to do with how you perceive the photographs made with them.

  • Leebee

    Why didn’t Nikon do this with the Nikon 1 series of ICL cameras?

  • Nikonguy

    Good old Nikon:

    V2 worse than V1

    D7100 worse than D5200

    Bottom Line: why upgrade!

    • KnightPhoto

      Read Thom’s V2 review, you may be surprised (I was).

    • KnightPhoto

      Read Thom’s V2 review, you may be surprised (I was).

  • kb

    I hope it bombs in North America while being successful elsewhere like the V1 did. The subsequent fire sale prices would make it a worthwhile point and shoot.

  • http://loewald.com/ Tonio Loewald

    It seems like DxO’s sensor tests don’t really include the impact of removing AA filters. Also unfortunately they haven’t done much lens testing on the D800E so we can’t see the effect on effective sharpness relative to the D800. Those of you complaining about DxO’s scoring system need to understand that they’re consistent and open about their methods, which makes them better than most other sites. That said their overall numerical scores are voodoo (better than dpreview’s percentages because they aren’t time dependant and don’t assess “value”) and none of their scoring deals with camera or lens ergonomics (where the latest Canon full frame DSLRs are generally thought superior to their Nikon rivals) or color rendition. Similarly their lens reviews don’t discuss things like bokeh quality, flare control, or more obscure optical attributes.

  • KnightPhoto

    If the price ever declines on this CoolPix A camera, I expect it will make its way into some pockets, possibly even mine someday. A score of 80 vs. 60 for the G1X is very telling. As is the 80 vs. 66 of the RX100.

    Anyhow, I have always liked this sensor on my D7000. Very very nice at ISO 800 and stunning below that.

  • Micah Goldstein

    UGH…can you ease up on the DX0 posts? They’re attention whores as is…no need to feed that.

  • malchick743

    A decent DxO score doesn’t mean much here. This C-A sucks in body design, esp. in button config. Just tried one last night and most of DPR’s complaints on that aspect hold true.

    Also with the silver model, I also have problems identifying the rear buttons under indoor lighting (too much reflection, that is).

    Unless Nikon issues firmware updates to address these issues, I find no reason to spend that kind of money for a cropped 1.5x compact.

  • Mike

    So, they have a Coolpix A already but left out the 6 year old 14-24 that is still sharper than anything in its class. Surely they’ve had time to save up for that lens before doing the test?

    • Mike M

      Or the top shelf pro lens the 70-200 f2.8′s newest version, either. You’d think someone would be able to at least loan them one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sylvain-Larive/534034693 Sylvain Larive

    I’m not going to say I swear by DXO and buy my camera and gear based solely on their numbers but where is the almighty alternative? Beside DXO and Sensorgen it is very hard to find hard data on sensors.

    Most sites all come up with subjective conclusions and little numbers concerning sensor performance, where every products ends up with a schmoozy Gold award and all bodies are simply great!

    I think the DxOMark number itself is flawed because it makes too many assumptions, but the numbers breakdown, charts and explanations (check the Insights section) on the results are rather impressive. For all you whiners, where do you get your data before taking the plunge and investing, 3 grand on a camera??

    • BroncoBro

      How about renting the camera for a couple days and deciding if the image quality meets YOUR OWN criteria? I find your comparison of the objective results by DXO with the subjective results by, I’m assuming places like DP Review, Steve’s digicams and Ken Rockpoor, to be illuminating. Isn’t it interesting how definitive the DXO results are compared to the blurred conclusions of the subjective reviewers? IMHO, it suggests that it’s very difficult to assess the differences in image quality between these cameras and that it has more to do with the quality of the person in whose hands these cameras perform their service.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sylvain-Larive/534034693 Sylvain Larive

        If you read my last paragraph it said EXACTLY what you were trying to tell me. That the rankings are silly but the performed tests are not. It is silly to pick a camera because it got a 94 instead of so and so got 89. But if you’re willing to delve further into details then there is a lot of information to help your decision. So yes it is impossible to RATE a camera the way DxO does, but they do have the most comprehensive test method out there. Just a bit IRKED at folks who just take a second to look at the DXO Ranking and can’t see the value in their tests. Maybe DxO is to blame somewhat for putting this ranking forward so much,

        There are tons of places where I can get a subjective analysis and very little objective results. Obviously, I don’t suggest anyone buy their camera on DXO results alone. But truth be told, it takes quite a while to get to know a camera and its limits, even by renting there are things you may not pick up after a few days (like how far you can push the shadows, real DR, noise under some circumstances).

        And yes, the photographer is more important than its camera, but there is nothing wrong trying to get the best tools for the job. Think pro hockey players don’t try to get the best skates and football players the best cleats and just assume they’ll beat anyone with any equipment? They probably could mind you… :)

        • BroncoBro

          You and I are on the same wavelength I think. My point was that the differences between all these cameras is small, and that suggests that you just pick one that handles well and has features suited to your shooting style and you’ll be fine. You said that as much when you indicated it takes “quite a while” to learn a cameras traits. If the differences aren’t immediately obvious what are we worried about? Over time you’ll find ways to adjust the final image that suits you and your style.

  • R!

    Being picky,I’m a bit bothered by the one point higher result of the 5200 vs the 7100 ??????

    • http://Flickr.com/inthemist InTheMist

      Margin of error. It’s probably the same sensor, looks like. Remember the D7000 vs. D5100? It happened that the overall score was the same, but multi-point differences in the various scores.

    • BroncoBro

      There has to be some margin of error as InTheMist says. There is MUCH more to a camera than just the sensor. I mean, you can put a 5.0 V8 in a Pinto, but that doesn’t make it a Mustang.

  • cgw

    Fuji gets it, Nikon doesn’t. The X100s has an EVF and optical VF. The Coolpix A? A pricey tack-on. Overall, a lame design from a rudderless company that doesn’t listen to customers, i.e., photographers.

    • BroncoBro

      I thought the same thing until someone pointed out to me that having a finder of any type built in would increase the size of the camera and probably push it outside the boundaries of what would be considered “pocketable”. Looking at it that way, I’ve concluded that Nikon is staking out the “compact” ground in a move to differentiate this product from the X100s rather than come out with a “me too” product. So, despite my preference for cameras with viewfinders (and cameras that have aperture rings on the lens), I’m sort of intrigued by the Coolpix A.

  • Jonathan Ingram

    Wow, impressive sensor results. IMHO Dxo is good for sensor info, less good for lenses though. Love all the angry comments… cracks me up

  • Back to top