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Nikon to announce a high end compact camera: 16MP DX sensor, fixed 28mm f/2.8 lens, Expeed 2 processor

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The dream camera: mockup of Nikon mirrorless camera based on the Fuji X100 done by a reader

I received a very short and crypted tip that Nikon will announce a new compact camera with 16.2 effective megapixels DX-sized CMOS sensor, fixed 28mm f/2.8 (or maybe even f/2.0) lens and EXPEED 2 image processing engine. This could very well be the camera that will be announced this week and I seriously doubt that the D7000 replacement will be introduced as well.

In addition, in 2013 Nikon may also come with a new line of mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras with APS-C sized sensor. Nikon has already filed several patents in the past for DX mirrorless lenses: 18mm f/2.8 lens patent and another patent that describes a 24mm f/2.0 or f/2.8 lens.

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  • Eric Calabos

    Oh my god

    • D5100 owner

      42mm fixed lens, or something else?

      • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

        I think 28mm could be the full frame equivalent.

        • D5100 owner

          so it is a 18 on an aps-c? or am i wrong

          • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

            not sure

            • Eric Calabos

              according to patent, there is a chance to see the VR label on it

          • Zogn

            No, its 28 * 1,5 = 42mm on DX

            • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

              I am not sure, I think is 28mm equivalent – 18mm focal length, Nikon had a patent for such lens.

          • Zogn

            No, its 28 * 1,5 = 42mm on DX

            • NoOne

              Huh? The DX sensor is smaller, hence there’s a crop factor (X1.5 as a matter of fact) meaning to achieve the same focal length on a DX camera to have the same as on FX it must be smaller.
              In that case 28mm on FX is equivalent to ~18 in DX.

            • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

              I am not sure, I think is 28mm equivalent – 18mm focal length, Nikon had a patent for such lens.

            • pellevin

              Would be very funny if it was 18 mm DX since Nikon has not managed to make such a DX prime to their DSLRs in ten years…

        • rkas

          I really really hope that its 42mm FF equivalent since thats the ultimate focal length imo!

  • Jon McGuffin

    Hmmm.. What to think of this? Trying to compete with the Fuji’s of the world I suppose…

  • Dilomski

    Booring.Wanted to see a real DX like d7100, not this.

    • vFunct

      A real DX would be a D400, with a pro high-speed AF system that the D300s has, not the slow-speed AF that the D7000/D600 has.

      • Buddy

        Dxxx is probably left for entry lvl full frame bodies… so replacement of d7000 and/or d300s should be “D” and four digits

      • Swade

        And a hopeful increase to the ISO performance. That is one of the reasons I picked the D7000 over the D300s.

  • dan

    fixed lens why not f1.8 or f1.4

    • rkas

      Size probably.

  • Spock

    That is one sweet looking Camera!

  • chubbs

    This is just getting weird.

  • http://www.facebook.com/billy.burton.58 Billy Burton

    Please no. If this is true, how much longer can they ignore the enthusiast APS-C market… The 28mm compact could work if it was at a significantly lower price point than the X100s, still dissapointing though.

    • UnknownTransit

      As long as they can make more money off these products, they will continue. It’s all about investing less money to for a higher rate of return. Any investor will agree with me. While the not so rich photographers are quite upset. They probably calculated the cost of loosing the APS-C DSLR market for the mirrorless market and found it better that way.

    • GlobalGuy

      I don’t know why people don’t want to buy a D300s, who need a DX pro camera. Anything wrong with the D300s — or you just want something brand new/afraid of it losing value on re-sale trade?? Just wondering what is the “must haves” for a D400. Honest question, not mocking.

      • KnightPhoto

        D300S: Ancient sensor, Nikon provides much better and for 2.25 years already. And of course update the video modes too. Other than that, the model isn’t broken, just add in the f/8 focussing AF and keep it 8fps with grip.

      • catinhat

        It would be nice to have an extra stop of usable ISO. What’s usable of course depends on what you want to do, but this is the idea anyway. Maybe a tiny bit more DR. Other than that everything else is just bells whistles. But in general, I agree with you, either D300 or D300s are still very capable and extremely useful. Nothing is terribly missing there.

      • Merv S

        Is Nikon even manufacturing the D300s now? I would have thought they are just running down their stock now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/rob.ueberfeldt Rob Ueberfeldt

          Still $1700 at Adorama. I’m waiting to for a price drop…

      • http://twitter.com/wijnands Jeroen Wijnands

        For me video would have been nice and that extra stop or so you get from the d7000. Stick that sensor in the D300s body, don’t change anything else and I’d be happy.

        • http://www.facebook.com/rob.ueberfeldt Rob Ueberfeldt

          D300S has video. But what KnightPhoto said. Who knows what Nikon are planing, they released the D90 before the D300 so D400 should be the next..

      • Millzee

        I also would rather have improvements in DR and IQ than resolution: Better high iso and long exposure performance would be very important. An improvement in accuity ought to be possible by now (my old D2x had something about it at iso 100) – perhaps an ‘e’ version without AA filter?

        Various other tweaks such as level horizon indicator, manual focussing indicator, dual card slots etc.

        An improvement in resolution would be good also of course, but not much really is necessary if the above could be achieved.
        Everyone want this camera – I can’t imagine that Nikon do not have something up their sleeve. Whatever they call it when it comes, it will be worth the wait. However, I agree with other posts that Nikon ought to keep their customers informed on this subject.

      • JCP

        Or a D600 and use crop mode

        • Nikon

          With 10.6 MP?

  • PAPAROTZ

    Really would like to see this! would be nice if it works with F mount lenses. primes only!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sagik1 Sagi Kortler

    28mm is not wide enough on DX sensor for such a camera.

    • Aldo

      I wonder if it’s 28mm 35mm equivalent as they advertise these type of cameras…

  • http://Flickr.com/inthemist InTheMist

    Want!

  • lol

    I guess I’ll just get Sony’s RX100 then. Or maybe the NEX-7 replacement. Sigh.

  • M. A. Pardini

    Fuji x100s. Spot the differences.

  • hank

    im tired of waiting, time to start looking at canon’s offerings. just got my tax refund, and realized that at this same time LAST year, holding my tax refund in hand, the rumors of the D7000 replacement “any day now”… a year later and still nothing but thin air. at this point i simply dont think the D7000 is going to be replaced. every other model in the DX format has already had two refreshes to the 7k’s zero.

    • cj

      NO one holds you back.

      • frkm0005

        Haha exactly. Enjoy your 7D!

    • PB PM

      Why, Canon’s high end crop sensor cameras are just as out of date???

      • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

        that’s very true!

      • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

        that’s very true!

      • jjdarling

        So he can be ANGRY on the INTERNET!

        • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

          Yeap! On the other hand, in the very same instance, there is another guy at canon rumors that manifests the same threat to check the Nikon’s offerings. So in total, the balance remains.. :)

        • hank

          because ive been waiting for more than a year for an appropriate upgrade. im currently using a D40 – ive long since outgrown it, but im not ready to make the jump to FX yet. the D5200 is just an upgraded version of the entry level camera with an articulated screen. I got somewhat burned on my D40 purchase and im not keen to repeat it again.

    • singlecoilpickup

      The D7k is also, imho, a better camera than the D3X00 and D5X00 lines. I’d still take a D7k over its more-recent little brothers. Working without a top LCD or internal focus motor is a non-starter for me.

    • frkm0005

      How many DX bodies were replaced in the life span of the D700 or the D3S? Better cameras take longer to replace.The D7000 is more enthusiast and has a better feature set than its lower siblings. Heck didn’t they use the same AF System in it’s newest camera, the D600?

      • catinhat

        If Nikon actually considers D7000 the top level DX now, it might be on a 3-4 year update cycle…

  • Aldo

    OH!!! I like how this camera sounds… may upgrade my 5mp panasonic point and shoot. PLEASE nikon give me a good excuse to spend my money on stuff I don’t need.

  • Gedrick

    Still no d7000 replacement :-( A lot of people just want to know “when Nikon?”

  • dan

    Is this exchangable lens or fixed lens since I saw a lens mount. If so, what kind of mount is it?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      This will be a fixed lens camera. Later in the year Nikon may introduce an interchangeable lens version of it.

      • dan

        Then f2.8 is insane!!! Considered 35mm f1.8 is only 100 bucks when onsale.

  • cj

    copy cat

  • rich

    would be better if it was full frame! and f mount too!

    • Aldo

      nah… a comfort camera… 16mp no need for a zoom lens

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      A suggestion for a fixed lens camera with a f-mount is genius you could only find in a site like this.

  • Scott M

    Why do you seriously doubt new D7200? Did cryptic tip say?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      No news on the D7000 replacement. The new SKUs I mention earlier are probably for this camera.

      • Reese

        But you said it was a DSLR SKU… Was that not accurate?

        • Joe

          He also said it’s a “rumor.”

          • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

            The store could have mistakenly listed that as a DSLR.

        • Stefan

          Rumors and facts are accurate when first commented by Thom Hogan only, else discard!

      • FrenchGuy

        And if you say “are” it means more than one so maybe more than just this mirrorless camera.

      • Shawn

        Why would there be a need for multiple SKUs? Colours?

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          Yes, maybe different colors – in this case two, because there were two SKUs.

  • snugge

    i got one of these already. it’s called fujifilm x100s.

    • MRGABE

      and how are you liking yours?

      • fltog

        The fuji x100s doesn’t ship until march and is only available for pre order.

    • Micah Goldstein

      …with an Xtrans sensor no less. No thank you. Still prefer Bayer.

      • sasa208

        Bayer is dead as far as I am concerned. I own a Sigma dp2M and I hardly touch my D800E anymore. The files are just so much more beautyfull, it is the future of digital photography. And yes I know they are far from perfect, but it is such a huge step in the right direction, I can’t see why to use Bayer sensors anymore in the future. (The foveon type sensors will improve of course)

        • Micah Goldstein

          …well you obviously don’t shoot for a living. For those of use that shoot things that move, or need higher resolution, Bayer still reigns. Same with lens selection if you’re comparing the SD1. In fact, compared to the SD1, I even like the output from my GX1 better. Maybe you’re not shooting raw?

          –hold up, if you aren’t interested in your D800, what’re you doing on the “Nikon Rumors” page?

          • sasa208

            I am a professional photographer and I do shoot for a living.
            And i ONLY shoot raw. For assignments I still use my D800E a lot, but even there I am turning more and more to my DP2M. The files are just more beautiful, also according to my customers. I am here because I am interestend (and own a) in Nikon products. But since I discovered Foveon, I know Bayer is history. There is no turning back, and in not to much time, Nikon too will move into this direction I think.

            • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com/ bob cooley

              The Foveon’s are interesting, but they have been around for nearly 10 years and just haven’t seen adoption by the major camera companies.

              I won’t argue which is ‘better’ but just like beta vs VHS, its not always the best technology that wins.

              For Foveon to succeed, it will need backing by at least one of the bigger players in the camera market, and they just haven’t seen it happen in a decade. Its a shame, because it has a lot of promise.

            • sasa208

              I hear you. It is already hapening though. Fuji is moving in that direction and also Sony has the patents that look like very similar technology. We’ll have to see how Fuji’s ‘organic’ sensor turns out and when Sony (or even Canon) come up with their new sensors, but all the signs are there.

            • zeum

              I’d hardly call Fuji and Sony big players in pro photography. Both are second tier and neither make pro grade dslrs. In fact they aren’t really main players with enthusiast or consumers.

            • sasa208

              I am talking sensor technology, not camera body’s.

        • Kyndel

          I agree.

          The handling of the Sigma DP2Merrill is awful, but the pictures are stunning, and it is hard not to choose this camera when you go out.

          For pro use I use D3x, D7000 and Olympus E-M5, because of the faster handling, but some day I hope that Sigma will improve the handling, and then I agree = The Bayer mosaic will be history.

          Yes you need to go to Sigma Pro Photo to change the RAW to Tiff (or jpg), but then you can move on and yes it is not a fast workflow, it you need corrections,

          But sometimes I do it anyway – the pictures are really something to go for.

  • cj

    DX is dead! DX mirrorless is coming.

    • Aldo

      yeah good things come to an end at one point… take a look at the mid size suvs… all you have now are transversal hatchback cars with oversized tires… only a few good real mid size suvs out there… crossovers are taking over.

    • Aldo

      yeah good things come to an end at one point… take a look at the mid size suvs… all you have now are transversal hatchback cars with oversized tires… only a few good real mid size suvs out there… crossovers are taking over.

  • Paul

    I’m glad Nikon didn’t go with an upgraded V1/V2 ala the Z1 as some had speculated. Looking forward to hearing more about this line.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

    the picture above is just mockup people…its a retouched fuji x100.It says that just beneath it….

    • iamlucky13

      Yeah, that confused me for a bit, what with the “Voigtlander” lens instead of Nikkor, and the rumor saying fixed lens, but the photos showing a mount.

      Some stuff still strikes me as a bit odd, though – Expeed 2-branded processor instead of Expeed 3, for example. And a 16.2 MP sensor suggests they’re using the D7000 sensor instead of a newer sensor. If any camera merited the currently available 24 MP sensor, it should be the one with the no-compromises fixed lens.

      • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.enchev Daniel Enchev

        Voigtlander lens.
        Plus 20mm instead of 28mm.
        Plus 1:1 Fuji X100 design.
        Do you still think that there is something true in the photos?

  • Neikius

    i jizzed a bit.. when i saw that.. couple that up with a nice voigtlander lens.. good god!

    • NRA Advocate

      “…nice voigtlander lens.”

      Oxymoron.

  • cj

    This is NOT real. This is a Fuji X100 body, photoshoped with Nikon logo.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      yes, this is just a mockup

  • David Silvernail

    Why on earth would they go with an old EXPEED 2, when they have EXPEED 3a on the Nikon J3/S1 cameras?

    • darren

      Because Expeed 2 was cool before expeed 3.

      • CaM

        Because this camera was designed a long time ago.

      • CaM

        Because this camera was designed a long time ago.

  • Don

    It will take more than that, much more than that to convince me to visit a Nikon dealer to upgrade my equipment. But I may soon start to look at the competition.
    Sorry Nikon, I am loosing faith and patience, I have been waiting for a D300s replacement for much too long time.

    • NRA Advocate

      Dear Don:

      Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

      Sincerely,

      Nikon Public Relations

      • Homer

        Dear NRA Advocate,
        That’s way Nikon haven’t reached its sales target. Remember, customers are the conditio sine qua non.
        Homer

    • Fran

      Have a cookie.

    • http://twitter.com/wijnands Jeroen Wijnands

      Yeah, evolutionary the sturdy dx body apparently was a dead end. I’ll be shooting mine until it wears out and then I’ll see.
      Even a statement from Nikon “sorry guys this is it, no D300s followup any more” would already be a useful answer.

  • Reese

    Why can’t Nikon fix thier DSLR DX line before they introduce a mirrorless DX line?

    • KnightPhoto

      They will…

    • BdV

      Maybe they can, but won’t..

      • Richard

        yes…i think so, probably DX is dead because the prices of the FF sensor become less expensive

    • http://twitter.com/wijnands Jeroen Wijnands

      Because fashion accessories like the X100 sell well.

  • Dirk

    Lots of people are waiting for ome DX and that’s a high-end DSLR like a D400!!!

    • tertius_decimus

      Yep! And where’s the D700 replacement?

      • Lcky

        seriously what are you people waiting for?

        D710? D700s four years late?

        D 8 0 0

        • tertius_decimus

          Low MP night king camera. A sensor from D4 would be right.

          • An anonimous Photographer

            D710! LOL. Almost correct! in September 2013

    • Gedrick

      Only D400 is good enough to capture Bigfoot at 9fps ! Lol

      • catinhat

        You got it! Bigfoot and D400 inhabit the same mythical space-time.

        • NRA Advocate

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…!

        • Vin

          That is pretty funny! ! I will go sasquach hunting this week and tell you what he thinks of his D400 after I ask him.

  • FrenchGuy

    And why not both this new mirrorless and a new high end DX dslr. You don’t invite the press for only one camera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

      You do if you open a whole new line of products. For Nikon this is a kind of revolutionary. They realized that CX line is dead, DX DSLR too expensive to compete with all these X100s, DMs and NEXes, so they went radical! Economically sound, but it will leave a bunch od DX users VERY dissapointed!

      • anonymous coward

        Agreed. And a future DX mirrorless body could explain the dearth of new DX, pro-quality lenses.

        • Vin

          I don’t think Nikon has ended their DX DSLR line. Its just not prioritized for massive sales. They want to sell the new trendy thing first. Once they have you with that they will bring in the upgraded old faithful. They need sell as many FX as they can, and even more mirrorless first.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      The D7000 replacement will be a major release and we should have seen many leaks before the announcement. There was nothing so far, which makes me think there will not be a D7100 this week. The previous rumors indicated that the D7000 replacement will come before April.

      • j v

        I agree it will be big and there are not many rumors… but this compact DX is also a big story, and again not many rumors (the existence of this concept just came out, and if it concerns the upcoming announcement, than that is amazing)…
        Please don’t take it as criticism, I love reading the site and following the rumors.

  • cookie

    At 50 ISO my DP1 is even better than my D90. Paid 160€ for it at ebay.
    Okay Raw is necessary to get good results and taking photos of moving subjects is impossible. But you cant always get what you want

  • gorg

    Fail. There are 3 cameras Nikon should introduce.
    1. A replacement of D300
    2. A replacement of D7000
    3. If they want, they can introduce a ne mirrorless DX system.

    A DX compact? Come on Nikon.. do you want to sell cameras or just posing around?

  • Scott M

    Maybe there’s a “oh yeah, one more thing…”, ala Apple release?

  • Greg Heller

    Not a DSLR? No wonder Nikon’s losing money, Here’s a clue Nikon it’s not a soft market – it’s not giving your customers what they want like a high-end DX model. You are quickly becoming the Edsel of Japan. My patience are about gone

    • NRA Advocate

      “Canon better not come out with the 7D Mark II before the D300/D300s/D7000 upgrade comes…”

      Newsflash, genius — they won’t. Canon actually has no plans to replace the 7D anytime soon.

      Hope you’ve got a third manufacturer option in your back pocket there, slick. Cause it seems the Canikon duopoly has f*cked you over.

      • legi

        Most annoying comments. Just pull your nikkor o.o.y.axx

  • frkm0005

    Okay I get that everyone is waiting for a D300s replacement and say they have no more patience and some are gonna switch to Canon. But, what other manufacturer has the equivalent of a “current” pro level crop sensor body? Canon’s top pro level crop sensor is the 7D. How old is that one now? Okay running out of patience is fine but I just find it comical when they’re gonna switch to Canon. Ummmmm for what exactly?

    • js200022
      • frkm0005

        Okay, that release date says end of summer. That’s not that close and it’s a rumor. What if the D400 and D7100 are out by then? I think I missed your point. My point is that people are fed up with WAITING so they’re gonna switch to Canon for a 7D. Did you see the key word I used there? “WAITING”. Tired of “WAITING” lol. So switch to Canon for an unreleased camera thats about 6 months away.

  • MyrddinWilt

    I can’t see the point in a DX mirrorless. It would be a whole new set of lenses to support and no real difference in performance from the CX line.

    Going to an FX mirrorless might have a point to it. But even there mirrorless is really not a competitor to DX on handling or focus yet.

    As for this proposed camera, it is a big pile of meh. It would have all the disadvantages of mirrorless interchangeable and not the interchangeable part and probably cost pretty much the same to make.

  • MyrddinWilt

    I can’t see the point in a DX mirrorless. It would be a whole new set of lenses to support and no real difference in performance from the CX line.

    Going to an FX mirrorless might have a point to it. But even there mirrorless is really not a competitor to DX on handling or focus yet.

    As for this proposed camera, it is a big pile of meh. It would have all the disadvantages of mirrorless interchangeable and not the interchangeable part and probably cost pretty much the same to make.

    • Robert

      You may want to take a serious look at what Fuji is doing with its X system, which is carving out a nice chunk of the market for itself with high-end “pro-level” rangefinder-style mirrorless cameras.

      Nikon has been carefully watching Fuji’s success with the X-Series cameras and this is what they are gunning for with this move, I believe. The real question here is can they develop (or co-develop) a sensor that can compete with Fuji’s X-Trans technology?

      Either way, it’s not going to stop a new, higher end DX DSLR from arriving soon.

    • D90HEXPL

      Yes, mirrorless cams use contrast based AF and are therefore bad capturing moving objects. Anyhow, Nikon has been doing testing on hybrid AF with their 1 series (since Sep ’11) and they have nailed it quite well down.

      Also, many DX lenses are just mediocre and really good ones are insanely expensive (except AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G). Now Nikon can introduce high quality lenses (like Fuji with their X series). First few sharp primes and later the zooms. I am ready!

      • Mike

        Fuji X lenses are overrated.

  • http://twitter.com/localtyrant Local Tyrant

    Two things:

    1.

    28mm seems a little wide for a non-interchangeable lens. I believe a fixed-lens sweet spot is around 35mm.

    2.
    What’s with all the complaining about a D7000 replacement? WTF is wrong with the 7000? Isn’t it a magnificent camera at a (currently) very, very good price?

    • Joseph

      A 28mm on DX is like a 42mm, which is the perfect FL for a fixed-lens camera…

      • http://twitter.com/localtyrant Local Tyrant

        I wasn’t completely sure if the mentioned FL considered DX-crop. I guess you’re right.

      • neversink

        please!!! Read my comment above on the myth of a “sweet spot” for a fixed lens body. Thanks

    • preston

      Keep in mind this would be DX, so it would be a 42mm equivalent. So I’d actually prefer it to be wider so that it is a 35mm equiv (my favorite full frame focal length). Both the Fuji X100 and the Leica X2 got this right by having a 24mm fixed lens on their DX sized sensors. My biggest gripe would be that this is only an f/2.8 lens. With it being that slow it better be 1) VERY compact, and 2) have a good VR system.

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      “28mm seems a little wide for a non-interchangeable lens. I believe a fixed-lens sweet spot is around 35mm.”

      If anything it’s too long… we’re talking about APS-C sensors. Your 35mm sweet spot speculation is more relevant to full frame-equivalent field of view (e.g. Sony RX1, Fuji X100, etc.)

    • ExNikonian

      Too wide – crop. Easy, with some resolution lost. Too tight, stitch. Not so easy.

    • D90HEXPL

      Yes, around 35mm is perfect. I’ve been shooting with 30mm and 24mm primes and I find 24mm (36mm on 35mm film) better. 30mm is just not wide enough sometimes and stays in the bag with the longer ones more than the 24mm.

    • neversink

      You are kidding me!!!! There is NO sweet spot focal length for a fixed lens. Where in the world are you guys getting this info from. One of the first modern fixed-lens cameras was the Hasselblad 900 series SWC. It had a medium-format lens of 38mm, which – depending upon the angle of view– would be the equivalent of about 20mm for a 35mm format.
      The SWC was a superb camera. And very popular among professionals. That 20mm was the so-called sweet spot for them. So come on folks – get a life — and stop making up things like the sweet spot for a fixed-lens camera.
      And at the time, when gold was about $50 an ounce, this camera was going for about 5K or 6K.

  • Wondering

    NR, why not admit you have no reliable consistent info about what’s going to be revealed instead of changing the story every day? Rumors sure, but how about a little corroboration? You know, like journalism used to be.

    • frkm0005

      LOLOL they’re rumors. Of course info will be constantly updated and changed. Don’t read the site if you find it inconsistent or unreliable. It’s really that simple. And what in journalism was ever real.

      • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

        I clearly stated last week that the announcement could also be for a new high-end Coolpix camera: http://nikonrumors.com/2013/02/16/nikons-announcement-next-week-could-also-be-for-a-new-high-end-coolpix-camera.aspx/
        If they will call it Coolpix still remains to be seen.

        • Robert

          Kiss of death if they do, IMO.

          Truthfully, I don’t get all the hatred here for Nikon’s decision to take on Fuji’s X-Series — which is clearly what this is meant to do. The Fuji X cameras are doing phenomenally well; it was inevitable that another player would step up to compete with them eventually. A “serious” rangefinder-style camera from Nikon will do very well, I think, if properly executed. And serious mirrorless cameras are certainly the future for all but the most serious professional work.

          And none of this precludes the introduction of a “high end” DX body in the near future, either.

          So what is everyone b*tching about? Did their existing DSLRs suddenly become less capable of taking photographs than they were 24 months ago?

          • D90HEXPL

            So true. I have seen so many Nikon DSLR owners declaring that they also carry a Fuji X cam…

            • Robert Falconer

              Yep — I am one of them. I’m sure Nikon would love to bring us completely “in house.”

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      What story did I change exactly?

    • http://www.facebook.com/tomo.bagaric.3 Tomo Bagaric

      What are you talking about man!? Nobody ever said anything being 100% reliable…This is rumors site! And that’s what you get…And pretty accurate rumors, may I add…

    • Spy Black

      Why not have a few more shots of Jack Daniel’s?

    • ashwins

      Drink.

  • anonymous coward

    I’d like to see something like the V1 except with a low-noise 16-24 MP state-of-the-art DX sensor, a sensor to flange distance similar to Sony’s E mount, and that retains all the AF modes and AF points when used with a DX/FX lens adapter. Call it a DX-M. I could use it with dedicated DX-M lenses or my existing base of DX and FX lenses. Canon’s EOS M was a good try but no EVF and lackluster AF performance.

    • MyrddinWilt

      What advantage do you see in the sensor to flange distance?

      It is completely irrelevant as far as the optics go.

      • anonymous coward

        Primarily to get a smaller, thinner camera body when shooting native DX-M lenses. I thought a short sensor to flange distance made for less complex wide angle lens designs too. Something about retrofocus? And it enables the use of lots of odd 3rd party lenses through simple mechanical adapters.

        • MyrddinWilt

          The thing that matters is the lack of a mirror sweep that the rear element of the lens must not foul. The only effect of the flange distance is that the camera cannot be thinner than the flange to sensor distance. Which is pretty thin on the CX range to start with.

          Making the flange distance even thinner would require every lens to be a little thicker. Presumably Nikon chose what they considered to be a good compromise.

          • anonymous coward

            Yeah, I realized this about an hour after my reply. See my other reply below. I hope it will be something that makes for a thinner body than now if such a beast comes to fruition.

          • D90HEXPL

            Yes, Nikon 1-mount has 17mm and Fuji X-mount 17.7 which are very little.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance

            Sony has struggled to make good lenses for their E-mount citing the short flange distance of 18mm. I guess they should consult the Fuji Guys…

      • anonymous coward

        I see your point. It’s eliminating the mirror and allowing the optics to get close to the sensor that eliminates the need for a retrofocus design. Once that’s done, the mount could go anywhere but I’d still rather have a slimmer camera than one that’s thicker.

      • Robert

        Shorter distance for light to travel from the rear element to the sensor means, in theory anyway, better image fidelity.

        • MyrddinWilt

          But that has nothing to do with the flange distance.

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      Wanting to use your APS-C/FF DSLR lenses on a mirrorless with AF is only something that people who don’t have a mirrorless expect.

      As soon as you put DSLR lenses on mirrorless bodies you face two problems:

      1. The lenses make the proportions of the combo very awkward… when you put a big mount adapter and a big DSLR lens you’re not going to carry it around like a mirrorless anymore. You’ll need to get your DSLR bags again… what’s the point of getting a body with reduced functionality only to carry it around like a DSLR? You wouldn’t realise this until you’ve owned a mirrorless.

      2. The typical AF motors in DSLR lenses are not suitable for contrast detect AF. Having AF for SLR lenses might not make you feel like an abandoned puppy because you have no manual focusing skills but you’re still lost because AF for SLR lenses is not usable for anything other than stuff you can manual focus on. So what’s the point? Only a mirrorless owner would know this. If you’re saying they should have something like an LA-E2 adapter, then check point #1 above.

      Again… mirrorless allows for a nice feature which is allowing you to put any lens… but to get the most of mirrorless, you need the native lenses.

      • MyrddinWilt

        I find the F-mount lenses work pretty well on CX.

        Of course that might be because when you put an 18-200 or 70-200 on a CX body you end up with an amazingly compact 500mm package. Which obviously you don’t get on a DX sensor.

        • anonymous coward

          Same here. Got some great elk photos last month with this combo without placing myself in danger of getting gored.

          And then my imagination kicked in. What if Nikon could build a DX version of this combo that had the same or better IQ and AF performance as a DX DSLR?

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          These things are not apples to apples comparisons because of equivalence and how it affects the amount of total light gathered and therefore SNR, etc.

          But there are a few relatively compact ways to get ~500mm equivalent on a APS-C sensor:

          1. 300/4 prime
          2. 70-300 zoom @ 300
          3. 150 2.8 + 2x TC

          etc.

  • frkm0005

    IMHO I wish they would have an offering of pro level DSLR’s without video. Give the ones that don’t care for video a break. I’d buy the D800 in a heartbeat if it was cheaper without video. I’m sure it’s worth the money for what you get but it would be nice to not have to pay for a whole side of features I’ll never use.

    • KnightPhoto

      We’ve been over this so many times already, a camera with no video would be MORE EXPENSIVE ;-)

  • dan

    this post pretty much sum it up. the end of nikon is here. nikon no longer stands for innovation when it comes to optics. glad i switched to a brand that care more about its customers

    • Nikon Shooter

      Polaroid?

      • dan

        good try, but fail. u can try again if u want.

        any way, nikon fan boy, go away.

        • NRA Advocate

          Look, ma, it’s another armchair photographer who shoots with craptastic Canon cameras.

          Hahahaha!

          • VikingAesir

            Look another shill with absolutely nothing to contribute. Does Nikon pay you by the post? You should demand that in your next contract.

            • NRA Advocate

              Put down your Rebel Ti, look in the mirror, and repeat your first sentence above back to yourself. ;)

  • mrterrabyte

    I find myself asking…what exactly is stopping people shooting with what they have now…why the disappointment that Nikon doesn’t deliver a 48mp, 1.2million ISO, 18 FPS FX with the holy trinity lens triple pack, dustless, oil less, curved rectilinear sensor, 14 day battery life, and 400gb solid state HDD for $2750?

    • Nikon Shooter

      It’s pretty simple actually: there are photographers and then there are camera enthusiasts. The latter prefer to admire their cameras from the comfort of their own homes. Once they are bored with their new toy they become very vocal about being ready for the next one. Even Nikon’s tit is not big enough to feed those mouths quickly enough…

      • Poopsicles

        Yup. Exactly. It’s kinda like the difference between music lovers and hifi enthusiasts.

        • Robert

          It’s actually possible to be both, me thinks.

          Anyway, welcome to the digital world.

      • dan

        there are also camera enthusiasts who understand that 36mp is over kill.

        there are camera enthusiasts who understand that quality control is shit at nikon right now.

        any way, nikon fanboy go away.

        • Aldo

          A nikon fan? Where? I thought we were all canon lovers here…

          • Goal

            Exactly.

          • Goal

            Exactly.

        • No longer Pablo Ricasso

          Oh, most sincerely. Anybody who knows anything can tell you that 21/22 megapixels is more than sufficient to make the necessary pretentious statement that you are a serious pretender.

      • stepper

        Here’s a suggestion to all those who have the “collector’s bug”.
        Collect something else! I have a watch collection that keeps my gizmo going. And unlike digital cameras, watches actually hold or even appreciate in value!

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          Good advice. There are some lenses that will appreciate in value though… I’m not talking about Leicas, btw.

        • neversink

          I collect guitars. They also increase in value, although the market is soft these days.

          • http://twitter.com/JDennisThomas J. Dennis Thomas

            I collect guitars too. And I never worry about the newest model coming out because I’m always trying to find the oldest model.

        • EvilCEO

          I’ve found lights and lenses quite sufficient to keep me occupied :)

        • No longer Pablo Ricasso

          I know a lot of people collect photo gear, but I don’t think the person wanting an update for a mid grade cropped sensor camera is doing exactly that. I think there are a lot of people spending some money who don’t have much to spend that just want to buy the next better thing so that they don’t have to feel the redundancy of buying the same thing twice. I think some people are also worried that at some point someone who has spent a lot less money than they will have a better system. At one point it appeared that technology was improving at nearly the rate computers were. I also think that a lot of the new users are or were electronics junkies at one time and have come to expect more of the same. Those of us from the film era don’t understand this behavior completely. One thing I understand is that since the camera has become completely electronic that it will lose most of it’s value within a few years and that really keeps me from wanting to collect them. I suppose if that wasn’t true then the D100 would be like the holy grail of things to have, and it clearly isn’t. Maybe in another ten years we will have reached the point of diminishing returns that some people claim have been reached already with the newer sensors and the whining will subside.

          • Ernesto Quintero

            Wonderful observations. They certainly reflect what has happened to photography and photographers expectations. Internet amplifies many human traits,bad and good, which inturn feeds on it self.

          • LostInThePast

            I still love my D200…does that count?

      • Gear Butt

        I belong to the later group and I think people should stop labeling gearheads like us as a 2nd class citizen of the world of photography. We love photography, but we also love our equipment as it is. Camera is such a beautiful thing…

        • Aldo

          I don’t know if we can ever love our cameras like when they where film mechanical… it’s just not the same. They were beautiful instruments of mechanical precision… now everything is tasteless and gets quickly devalued.

    • danpe

      Can only speak for myself, but I’ve outgrown my d90 and it is at experter shutter life. Today there are two ways I can go, with a similar priced d7000 that is expected to be replaced soon, or at three times the price d800. Neither fits what i want perfectly, so I’ll just wait for d400 or d7100 until the shutter fails and then choose. Piece of mind that I didn’t buy into a system that will fail to meet my future needs is what I want.

      • ke

        What’s wrong with the d600?

        • 3Horn

          To a fair degree, lenses.

          My DX lenses are as follows:
          10.5 fisheye
          Tokina 11-16
          Tamron 17-50
          35 f/1.8

          My FX consists of an 80-200 and a 50 f/1.9.

          Do moving up to the D600 would require me to invest a fair amount in replacement lenses in addition to the more expensive body.

          Like danpe, my D90 has served me well; as of the last shot I took this weekend, the shutter has 313,310 clicks on it, so it’s definitely on borrowed time.

          Yes, I could buy a D7000, but it makes no sense to buy two year old technology if I can hold out a little longer for new.

          The vast majority of my shooting is done at night or in very dim light: burlesque shows, nightclubs, fire spinning and Burning man related events. High native ISO is far more important to me than a higher resolution.

          Not everyone however feels the same way.

          • spicynujac

            A LOT of us feel this way. I shoot a D40x and enjoy the benefits of DX and have little to no interest in FX. I would pay for a new camera with better low light sensitivity, even if it was no upgrade in MP. D7000 is a choice but old: Expeed 2, lacks upgraded flipscreenlcd, low light sensor, etc. if D7000 replacement isn’t released the first half of this year, I guess I’ll buy a D5200. Nikon get with it!

        • 3Horn

          To a fair degree, lenses.

          My DX lenses are as follows:
          10.5 fisheye
          Tokina 11-16
          Tamron 17-50
          35 f/1.8

          My FX consists of an 80-200 and a 50 f/1.8.

          Do moving up to the D600 would require me to invest a fair amount in replacement lenses in addition to the more expensive body.

          Like danpe, my D90 has served me well; as of the last shot I took this weekend, the shutter has 313,310 clicks on it, so it’s definitely on borrowed time.

          Yes, I could buy a D7000, but it makes no sense to buy two year old technology if I can hold out a little longer for new.

          The vast majority of my shooting is done at night or in very dim light: burlesque shows, nightclubs, fire spinning and Burning man related events. High native ISO is far more important to me than a higher resolution.

          Not everyone however feels the same way.

          • spicynujac

            A LOT of us feel this way. I shoot a D40x and enjoy the benefits of DX and have little to no interest in FX. I would pay for a new camera with better low light sensitivity, even if it was no upgrade in MP. D7000 is a choice but old: Expeed 2, lacks upgraded flipscreenlcd, low light sensor, etc. if D7000 replacement isn’t released the first half of this year, I guess I’ll buy a D5200. Nikon get with it!

  • peterlombardi

    seriously crossing my fingers for this!

  • Randy

    There is no wonder Nikon’s coming up short with financial projection as their management continues to make bad decisions and could care less about their long term customers who depends on their camera systems to make a living and have spent tens of thousands of dollars on their products. I have tried to be patient but coming out with this camera and not a D400 or even a D7100 is like Nikon is spitting in my face.

  • Hnery

    If they actually made a camera like the Fujifilm X-Pro1 but you could use Nikon Lenses I would sell my D800….So sick of the huge files!

  • reflex ralph

    The move to consumer mirrorless DX may have just begun. If indeed we’re going to see a DX compact and it features the Series 1 hybrid AF, Nikon has removed the last roadblock. Next step: a DX mirrorless mount and an f-mount adapter for legacy lenses, and a going-away party for the D3xxx / D5xxx series. CX might stay around for a while longer…it is much smaller, after all…

  • ZL

    So is there a still hope for any new DSLR this year?

  • Eric Duminil

    It might be an interesting camera.
    I seriously love my Fuji X100, and it’s good to see Nikon compete in this market.

  • btdown

    Um..why?

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