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Nikon D700 & D300s are now officially discontinued

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Nikon D700 and D300s are now officially listed as discontinued on Nikon's website.

The surprise here is the phase out of the D300s, because I have not received any reliable information about a potential replacement.

I believe the D700 will be available for sale for at least few more months after the D800 announcement.

Update: I was told that the Nikon D700 is no longer on display at the Nikon flagship store in Ginza.

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  • tigrebleu74

    The D800 is coming, we already suspect so. So yes, the D700 can be discontinued at this time, provided the D800 is announced at CP+.

    Now about the 36 Mpix and video some people don’t care about … Well, some people do. And if the D800 has some sRAW files like the 5DII (let’s say 18 Mpix and 9 Mpix), the only real disadvantage of the D800 will be a slightly less impressive performance at high ISO. Considering the improvement in sensors and A/DC made in the last 4 years since the D700 was introduced, I suspect high ISO performance will be as high as with the D700.

    Now it seems Nikon wants to clearly separate the D*00 from the D* product line. The D700 was so good with AF, fps and high ISO that people bought it instead of the D3 (the improvements on the D3s changed that a bit), which didn’t help the D3 get its fair share of the market until the D3s became available. And in the meanwhile, the 5DII continued to be the best selling FF DSLR ever, thanks to video, and, up to a certain extend, the added resolution. The D7000 became quickly a Nikon best seller partially because of its higher resolution… Even a 4 Mpix difference can be important to some people, for many reasons, including more agressive cropping for bird shooters.

    Sure, 36 Mpix might look like overkill. But if Nikon got it right with its sensor, the D800 could be a killer DSLR, able to remain a leading-class camera for the next 5+ years (after all, the 5DII, despite having 75% more Mpix, had image quality close to the D700 at high ISO — too bad the 5DII has such crappy AF and dynamic range). The interview of the motorcycle driver who shot the Chicago Nikon D800 (or whatever other camera it was) advertisement said in his podcast interview that the Nikon people there said they were using this camera because it had improved light gathering capabilities.

    In short, I expect the D800 to deliver results as good as with the D700 at high ISO, much better dynamic range, and a level of detail only a medium format digital back could give you otherwise, thanks to improved sensors, A/D converters and noise reduction algorithms.

    But the surprise might come from the D400. If the D300s is discontinued, a D400 is probably on its way, unless they decided the DX DSLR line up would end with the D7000. In such case, I would expect a D7100 to become the D300s’ replacement.

    But if a D400 is indeed released, I see three possibilities:

    1) A D300s-like DSLR with the 24 Mpix Sony sensor found in the new A77. While 36 Mpix on FF is manageable (it’s like 16 Mpix on APS-C, in terms of pixel density), 24 Mpix on APS-C already proves to be a bit too much (it’s like 54 Mpix on FF!) … The A77 is not impressive at high ISO, IMHO, and I doubt Nikon could do much better. But there is demand for more Mpix, so maybe Nikon will follow this path.

    2) A D3-like DSLR (integrated vertical grip) with the 16 Mpix Sony sensor found in the D7000, with more fps, slightly improved high ISO and dynamic range performance, and even better built quality than the D300s (hence the D3-like DSLR statement). Yes, there is still demand for a cropped sensor DSLR with lots of fps, and I’m not sure a 24 Mpix APS-C D400 could do that.

    3) A combination of both. D3-like body with lots of fps AND 24 Mpix resolution. That would put the D400 in a category closer to the D800 and D4, with a higher price tag as well. I don’t think it will happen, but if Nikon is confident they can pull great image quality from a 24 Mpix APS-C sensor at 8+ fps, I’m sure they’ll try.

    Anyways, we’ll know for sure in the upcoming days, weeks or months.

    • Anonymous Maximus

      Get a life mate !

      There’s only one chance that D400 will have D300-like body containing Sony’s 24mp DX sensor.

      • WoutK89

        Indeed, the DX line of “D3 like” bodies has ended. DX is for compactness and fewer weight. Need a sturdier body, there is the D3/D4 series. Also, if you want cheap, a D3 style body for DX would put it right where the name suggests, with the D3.

    • EnPassant

      You forgot the most obvious option:
      4) Same basic body as D800, just like D700 and D300 share the same bodytype, as it is the most easy and economical solution to manufacture. The NEW 16MP sensor used in Nex-5N for best ISO- and fps-performance. D7000 to my knowledge use the older 16MP sensor that was used in NEX-5.

      • tigrebleu74

        Quite possible indeed.

    • D400 = FX

      D400= Fx and that’s why D7000 was not an upgrade to D90. D7000 is somewhere between D300s and D90. If an update on D300s comes that will definitely be D7100. And we had some rumors on a (misspelled?) D7100. And NOT surprisingly no info whatsoever on a D400. It takes time to bring out a consumer FF, u know..!!

      • tigrebleu74

        Yeah, I thought about that possibility as well. A D400 that would sit below the D800, with fewer Mpix, lower video specs, etc., could be a very interesting. However, I’m not sure Nikon will introduce a FX D400 that could hurt the D800 sales. But maybe… hopefully!

  • tigrebleu74

    It strikes me all of a sudden …

    With the EN-EL3 batteries banned for environmental reasons in Japan, there’s no point selling a camera that comes without a battery because there’s a ban on it.

    So the discontinued cameras might still be available outside of Japan, and it seems they still appear to be available on the websites of Nikon USA, Nikon Europe and Nikon Canada.

    For the Nikon buyers in Japan, that could be a problem. While the D800 is expected to be released soon, the D400 isn’t. There could be a gap in the line up for Japanese buyers between the D7000 and D800, and possibly for a long time.

    • John

      I agree, they are discontinued in Japan because of the battery. They still seem to be shipping to US. Probably pretty urgent to get a replacement for the Japanese market so hopefully. I got my D700 in Oct 2011. I will be very happy with it for a long time. When I get a D4 it will still make a fantastic second body. Love FF.

  • dbltax

    I noticed the other day that WEX no longer had the D700 listed at all, let alone listed as “out of stock.”

  • Fred Flintstone

    I have a hard time believe nikon has to discontinue two camera’s in japan because of the new regulations, yes new products must adhere to the new regulations, but older ones?

    Are Sony, Canon, Pentax, Panasonic, Samsum, Olympus etc etc currently discontinueing camera’s?

    Barney.

    • Fred Flintstone

      I stand corrected:

      http://nikonrumors.com/2011/11/08/nikon-d700-d300s-and-other-products-no-longer-shipping-in-japan.aspx/

      In november the announcement was made that they stopped shipments due to regulations.

      Both beeing removed from website? maybe just some late/sloppy website maintenance that they were discontinued yesterday.

      Still surprised nikon is affected and others are not…

      • TheInconvenientRuth

        I’ve heard/read in several places that Nikon left it too late, they were planning to release the new model(s) last year but then the earthquake/tsunami/flooding/godzilla happened and they got caught out.

        Couldn’t roll out the new line on time and the old one was no longer allowed to be sold in Japan.

        Also, not every manufacturer has/had batteries with exposed contacts. It only applied to some Nikon products/cameras, not all of them.
        We’ve only heard about Nikon, but surely other electronics manufacturers must have the same problem.

        Just wondering, do they count AA and AAA batteries as having ‘exposed contacts’ ? :D

        • worminator

          Yes, of course. However 1. they are not positionned next to each other like they are in most camera batteries and 2. don’t normally contain high capacity li-ion compounds.

          • PHB

            This is not some trivial issue. A Lithium Ion battery has a huge amount of energy, easily enough to start a fire. And a fire aboard an airplane could bring it down.

            The rules came in after a series of issues with laptop batteries causing house fires. It makes pretty good sense.

    • Valiant Thor

      Great. Japan is now concerned about some friggin’ camera batteries meanwhile they build nuke power plants that fail and poison half the northern hemishpere and the pacific ocean with radiation.

      • Blah

        Hate to break it to you, but the nuclear plants in Japan were built by Americans, not Japanese.

        • ich bins

          … haha, American built quality …

        • durvy slesh

          So what? It was built years ago to the specs of its time. its in Japan and Japans responsibility to maintain and upgrade the facility.

        • Krock Renwell

          Made by but not maintained by Americans.

      • http://dundermifflin.com dwight shrute

        I’m an American and I agree with your statement. It was a tragic even nonetheless.

  • Anonymous Maximus

    Which of the below would you like to hear more:

    a) Nikon D700 & D300s are now officially discontinued
    b) Nikon D700 & D300s are now officially discounted
    c) Nikon D700 & D300s are now officially disconnected (from reality) :)

  • Dweeb

    Wouldn’t surprise me that they will drop the half frame as a “pro” format. That got them thru the pre-full frame days for a while but look around — have you seen any DX pro lenses the past several years? The again if they can make money on it they’d be selling Nikon cup-cakes.

    • toad

      Wouldn’t surprise me either.

      Consider the likely progress of cameras like the NEX-7 and in EVF’s over the next few years and ask yourself whether a substantial investment in DX SLR technology is likely to pay off.

      That’s why it’s possible, at least, that Nikon will change its pattern and the D400 will be a FF camera.

    • Richard

      It is not always a matter of pro lenses for the DX format that matter. The DX format is of use to wildlife photographers (and others) because of the crop factor. For example, there are a number of people using a 500mm f4 with 2x TC on a D7000 (and yes they say the auto-focus works on most of the bodies). The net result is an equivalent to a 1,500mm f8! That is pretty useful.

      Canon wildlife shooters are upset about the 1DX because of the loss of their 1.3x crop factor. Many of them have used the 500mm f4 with a 1.4x TC on the 1.3x crop body 1D MKIII which yields a bit over 900mm f5.6 with auto-focus function. Canon have stated that the 1DX will NOT auto-focus at F8 whereas Nikon have said that the D4 will (with limited auto-focus sensors).

      There will always be a market for a body with the build quality of a D300s camera for enthusiast as well.

      The D400, if there is to be one, is simply different from a D4 in all respects, including price. I expect there will be one. Just when it will be released is a good question as it is quite clear that Nikon are struggling to bring new products to market that have been delayed due to the unforeseen circumstances of the last year.

      Officially dropping the D700 and D300s puts an end to questions of “when are we going to get more of…” and frees up production capacity which certainly has to be critical at this time.

      Cheers

      • PHB

        Nah, Nikon don’t need to release more DX lenses as the whole range is pretty new and it is only at the wide end that special DX lenses have real value.

        The threat to DX actually comes from the Nikon 1. I have one and if you stick a 18-200 on it you suddenly have a compact camera that can be easily used for taking photos of birds and small wildlife.

        I got perfectly adequate DOF isolation with the consumer grade lens.

        Now clearly DX is slightly better in some respects but really not enough better to justify the extra cost and weight. FX is better enough to be worth the difference.

        I can see the D300s being phased out as a pro-tem solution in Japan. But it is by far their biggest pro camera seller. More D300 and D300s cameras have been sold than all FX cameras put together. And the owners buy lenses.

        A second lower cost FX camera might make sense, but I cannot imagine it being called the D400, that would be nuts. I think a consumer oriented D9000 makes much more sense.

        If the D800 costs $4000 as rumored then sales are going to be low and Nikon would desperately need a second compact pro camera. If the price is $2600 ish then there would still be something of a hole, but the D800 does have the ability to stand in for a professional version of the D7000 using the DX mode.

        I think it more likely that there will be another D400 and it will be a 24MP DX sensor but in the same body as the D800, possibly with a service upgrade to the 36MP sensor for a hefty fee.

        If you have a D300 or D300s, then a D400 will probably make little sense. But D90 etc owners will probably be interested along with some D40x owners moving up the line.

      • Krock Renwell

        Crop factor is not Magnification factor. It is not the equivalent of a longer lens. It is a cropped image from your current lens. There is a huge difference in depth/flattening.

  • Jimmy

    Just in from Thom Hogan’s site:

    “Discontinued in Japan
    Jan 25 (news)–New regulations in Japan, along with the end of life cycle itself, have prompted Nikon to stop selling the D300s and D700 there, and these models have been moved to the Discontinued camera list on the Nikon Japan sites.

    Given next week’s big camera trade show in Japan, don’t be surprised if new models get announced. Nikon isn’t likely to leave a huge gap between the D7000 and D4 open for very long. “

    • Rob

      So what is the news here? He just copied this from NR.

      • Jimmy

        Just summarising Bobby. You know, for those who have a life and don’t spend their lives trawling through rumours and comments to get those little tit bits of info that they are seeking.

  • jorg

    there is no “pro-format”, there is two sensor-formats, both of them make a lot of sense.

    DX is the big seller and the entrance to DSLRs. FX is way more expensive to produce sensor-wise and so will be more of an professional or rich enthusiast-market simply because of price and the number of ppl willing/needing to invest thousands of € or $s.

    there is a stable marketshare in DSLRs for a rugged, high-fps, professional DX-body for sports, wildlife, marketing-spoiled enthusiasts. it will stay there and sell quite well.

    dx pro-lenses: there is enough FX-lenses! why no update on 17-55/2.8? if you really needed that lens updated, think it through and get a D700 + 24-70 at once.

    • toad

      Sure, but 36MP FX is 16MP DX.

      Is it impossible that Nikonsees the D800 as a two-way shot – really multiple way if you consider larger than 16MP crops on the FF image.

      Lots of us seem to have been surprised by the 36MP spec. Could it be that Nikon had something in mind beyond just another blow in the MP wars?

      • PHB

        I think that is exactly what Nikon was after. But the question is price. If the camera is $4000 then it is not going to be something I can justify.

  • http://www.natanlorenzi.com Natan Lorenzi

    So, MB-D11, MB-D10 or new grip?

    • WoutK89

      for both the D300s and D700 successor a completely new grip is needed.

    • wublili

      The battery will be changed so the grip will, too, change for sure.

      • http://www.natanlorenzi.com Natan Lorenzi

        Really? S**t, I’ll need buy it again =/.

        40usd? 50usd?

  • Nikon_Loyal

    ok, I read some of you saw that Warehouse Express (WEX Photographic) dropped the D700. here is the confirmation of it : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/d700.png/

    go to: http://www.warehouseexpress.com/brand/?nikon

    look for D700…

  • mrdweeble

    The D700 will remain a classic for years to come. First Nikon DSLR that I have owned and felt really good about. Love it.
    Now, the D800 is a certainty, and it seems like if it can do all the D700 can do, I’ll buy it. And if it has a DX mode, it could make a D400 a moot point, except on price. 36mp gives you a lot of cropping potential.
    The big problem will be the optics. Many of the cheaper lenses aren’t going to hold up on a 36mp body, which I suspect will result in some poor initial reviews.

    • Anonymous Maximus

      (D800 + mediocre optics) > (D700 + same mediocre optics), either D700 upsampled or D800 downsampled.

      I think Nikon won’t introduce any pro FX that will be in short of D700 high iso ability. It will be at least on par with D700. Improved dynamic range will be the bonus along with pixel count as well. If one can afford, it should be a wise move to upgrade from D700 to D800. The other sensible choice is keeping with D700 and waiting for a D750 (or whatever to be called) with D4 sensor until probably next year, if you’re desperate for some better low light performance.

      Even the worst lenses on the planet (unless defective) will be capable to resolve more than D700 sensor pitch at center area. The question is about how the edges & corners will look like.

      But for revealing the full potential of a 36mp sensor, best lenses & flawless technique is needed though.

  • Myles

    So happy I sold my d700 to adorama this week! Surprisingly, they gave me more for the 700 than they’d give my roommate for his d3 in similar condition… I guess it pays to sell before the new model is actually announced.

  • Ryne

    Enough already, can I get my Nikon D400 now?

    • Nicole

      Amen to that!

    • NikNik

      Do you need 24 MPx? All the professionals I know use 10 to 12 MPx and are happy with that. Me too. To be honest with you: The SONY a77 is so noisy, the internal computer has to get the sharp pictures noiseless by computing it away. Pixels in a size of 6 micrometers are enough.

  • MRPhotoau

    Just a note.

    I went to a pro dealer in Sydney last week and he had 3 x D700 in stock, but didn’t need another.

    Still available here. Back to real work.

    Great work Peter. It’s appreciated.

  • treehaus

    I have been using a a d300 as my main body and when I really need wide I have a kodak FF. I personally cant wait for a the d800 I do a lot of wildlife photography where I love the pixel density and it will certainly have a DX mode at about 16mp. , but also equally love landscapes where I have always wanted as much resolution as I can get. for me I would shoot in dx mode 50% of the time as I would crop the extra off anyway and save the dx for amazing landscape and portraits. this is will be my dx fx solution, cant wait and have reserved the first one available at my camera shop!!

  • Maagus

    Good Evening,

    I had a thought the other day that kinda started to exit me in regards to next D** (maybe D400) .. What do you think of the below future DSLR range ?

    FX D4
    FX D800
    FX ??? >> D400?
    DX D7100
    DX D5200
    DX D3200

    Explanation: The D800 makes such a jump forward that it is not so much a “replacement” for the D700 but a new innovation in the range. It will also be more expensive then the D700 aiming at a specific group of professionals. Could the D7000 with 16PM be the top of the range DX body going forward and the D** (D400) be the entry level FX body??

    I think there is definitely room for another FX body with less MP’s. The advanced semi-pro or ambitious hobbyist deserves a FX sensor at a lower budget :)

  • Graham

    I can’t wait to hear the specs on the D400. The suspense is killing me!!!

    :D

  • MarkH

    No it’s not. I have my D700 right beside me.

    MarkH

  • http://bakadaruku.blogspot.com DaRC

    The D700 is missing from the shelves of a number of big camera and electronics stores in Gunma and Tokyo.

  • Chris Randall

    Why are people waiting for a D4oo, it will be a D9000
    3100
    5100
    7000
    9000
    are all dx range

    • Anonymous Maximus

      D400 is about the ergonomics, professional controls & feel of a D300 that D7000 lacks. To give an example, center (ok) button can not be assigned for 100% viewing like D300.

      • CR

        yes agree
        the D7000 feels like a D90 and has too many external switches missing to replace the D300s

        • PHB

          Dx000 series is designated Consumer
          Dx00 and Dx range are BOTH designated Professional

          Nikon needs a Consumer FX body and also a Professional DX body. Question is which they need more. I would suggest a D9000 if they can make the D800 affordable.

  • studio460

    I don’t have anything against the D800 or its specs (I would actually love one), but its low-FPS is its single greatest limiting factor for use in sports and journalism. That means, anyone shooting fast-paced events would need two D4s (if choosing only from the current Nikon FX line-up), with no other mid-range, current-product FX option in sight. Again, I would love a D800, but it simply wouldn’t function as a second FX body for event shooting (e.g., red carpet arrivals). I still believe (I guess, more like hope) that Nikon may have just kept a D700 replacement under tighter wraps, and we simply haven’t heard about it.

  • Alissa

    The D700 is still listed on Nikon’s website as an active product.

    http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Digital-SLR-Cameras/25444/D700.html

  • Hom Thogan

    If you walked to any store you would have known this has been true from months ago, not a single store in my city was able to procure a D700 from Nikon because they had been marked as discontinued months ago so expect tons of used D700 to be poured on the market really soon (and in the first part of this process they will be stupidly expensive).

  • NikNik

    No D400? Maybe we haven’t heard of a D300s Follower because there is no such thing. My guess is, that D7000 will cover the Dx-Market and D800 Fx.
    Meanwhile I ordered my new D300s. I got it before NIKON increased the price. You have to pay 150 EUR more for the body since this week. Rats.

  • happysnapper63

    I suspect that Nikons product road map is dictated by Sony’s sensor road map. Therefore I agree that the next round of DX products are likely to see this sensor.

    D800 and D4 have the full time professional bases covered. What is now lacking is the product that addresses the serious enthusiast for sports. airshow, and wild life, who want the crop factor. Interesting factors to me are:

    D700 and D300S discontinued at the same time = focus of production capability on the new models. Once the initial demand has been met and there is appropriate stock on the supply chain we will see the announcement of the D400 / D9000.

    My guess is:

    D800 body (ala D700 / D300S similarity)
    New auto focus and exposure systems from the pro bodies. Including AF at max ap F8.
    8 fps, same or slightly larger buffer capcity as D300S.
    ISO same or slightly better than D7000.
    Slightly smaller and lighter than the previous models.

    This will give an action profile for sports and wild life action. Coupled with high res for detail.
    DX crop factor with high resolution.
    F4 with 2x teleconverter viable for these shooters who do mot make loads of money If any at all, from their photography hence cannot justify 2.8s.
    For those with cash to indulge their hobby, pretty long 2.8 options.
    May be improved auto focus performance for lenses like the Sigmas that are wide open at f6.3.
    Improved auto focus with the f5.6 lenses.
    The ability to use 5.6 lenses with 1.4 x TC.

    A so called weather sealed body for those that believe that kind of marketing spin / BS.

    D7100 will just get the new sensor and some other minor tweaks. Giving a distinct justification for a significant price delta between the D7100 and D9000.

    The D400 will be to the D4 what the D700 was to the D3. The D9000 will make an excellent “do both” back up body for D4 or D800 users.

    If the the D7100 becomes it for DX then Canon will be onto a winner when they launch an upgraded 7D……they will a monopoly for the kind of shooters who had D300/D300S when first lanuched.

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