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Nikonos trademark expired back in 2008

There were some chatter last year that Nikon may bring back to life their underwater Nikonos product line. Tetsuro Goto (Director of Laboratory R&D at Nikon Japan) had this to say in an interview with Focus-Numerique: “personally I think the Nikonos reborn in the future”.

Trademarkia lists the Nikonos trademark as expired as of 08/22/2008 which probably means that Nikon has no plans of a new digital underwater product line:

The Nikonos trademark was registered back in 1967.

According to about.com, trademarks must be renewed every ten years:

"The term of a federal trademark registration is ten years, with ten-year renewal terms. However, between the fifth and sixth year after the date of initial trademark registration, you must file an "affidavit of use" and pay an additional fee to keep the registration alive. You must also file an affidavit and pay a fee within a year before the end of every ten-year period."

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  • Zorro

    Not really a surprise. I think serious underwater photographers would rather use an underwater housing on a DSLR. There are plenty of waterproof cameras for occasional use.

    • http://Www.eltonsaulsberry.com Elton

      I would think a P500 like product designed for the underwater market would be hugely popular with the scuba set. There’s an enormous gap between the thousand dollar+ housings and beach friendly P&S.

      None of those beach friendly occasional use cameras are Nikons are they? Another market ceded to the competition.

      I’m really surprised Nikon let this trademark go. Usually companies hang on to them if only to keep someone else from using them.

  • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

    Housings definitely rule. Amphibious cameras have a way of flooding.

    • Mark

      So do housings. There are no perfect solutions. However I’d rather pay for a camera that doens’t require a housing than a camera, and then a housing, both having the risk of flooding.

      • Ronan

        Most people don’t.

        Regular DSLR for everyday use, then the housing for occasional use.

        • http://www.intersiteimaging.com/ BrettA

          “Most people don’t”? Cite, please?

          As a Calypso owner who never had a leak and greatly appreciated the very, very compact size and weight for a full frame camera, it simply rocked. And is thee a Nikon quality full frame digital underwater camera? If not, then any attempt to suggest that “most people don’t” is utterly bogus, since there’s no product that anyone – much less “most people” – can use.

          Also, since the previous Nikonos (and of course, Calypso) needed an opening large enough for a roll of film, I suspect making something watertight when one only needs an opening the size of a battery and perhaps an SD card, waterproofing would be even easier than with the former film cameras. BTW, I too have had housings leak.

  • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

    This doesn’t mean anything other than an attorney somewhere forgot to renew it. Once I noticed on the USPTO website that Avon’s trademark had expired and they are still in business. Also Ambrosia Chocolate had it’s trademark expired even though it was/is a current product for ADM.

    You have to renew your trademark every 10 years as I recall so it is easy to forget.

    -Art

    • John

      Nikonos is one of the best series of cameras ever made. How many cameras can you mess up, then disassemble and hose off with fresh water? Sharp lenses, good pressure plate for film. Still use one to this day. Scale focus for life.

  • Lulz

    I sometimes worrie that nikon might just fold. It’s a real concern I have…

    • Global

      You must be a basket case.

      • Lulz

        Not really but I do sit in a dark closet with my 28 cats and post on the Internet…

  • broxibear

    Everyone’s jumping on the “I am” bandwagon, I am Stylish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUzkf2MUTQ

  • twoomy

    Nikon can still make a waterproof camera and/or housing without using the old name.

  • AnoNemo

    NR Admin

    I found this presentation from Kodak but what makes it interesting is that the guy claims that you kill your digital camera while you take it with you on an aircraft. See it from 8:00

    • AnoNemo

      Here is the presentation:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FZ8C6HneE

      I started google and found the same topic on DPR. Joseph Wisniewski explains it nicely why it is bs what Kodak claims. Here
      http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=38805625

      • VJ

        Actually, the gamma radiation influences all electronics, so I don’t see why digital cameras are any different. There is a reason why NASA uses radiation hardened electronics and why aviation electronics are radiation hardened too. It has been proven that gamma radiation can for instance change the state of a bit in computer memory, turning one bit from a one to a zero (or vice versa), which may have severe consequences on a running program. The problem becomes more of an issue as electronic components get smaller, and now for computer hardware we are nearing 20nm…

        That being said, this is the claim I hear that it can damage electronics. So far, all things I’ve read about concern “changing the state of electronics that is operational”, and it does not exhibit a cumulative effect.
        The exposure to the radiation can change how electronics behave, but does not damage it. Consequently, I can imagine that a photo taken on an airplane of in space may exhibit more dead pixels than one taken here on earth, but it would really surprise me that the imaging sensor would be damaged in the process.

        IMO, only photos taken during the higher radiation levels might be influenced, but not the hardware itself.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      Very interesting, never heard of this. Will post it on photorumors.com for discussion.

  • DaveyJ

    I have extensive experience with Nikonos cameras. For some year though we have been using Nikon DSLRs with housings. The last Nikonos made as a self contained unit had so many leaks it hurt Nikon from what I have heard. there are quite a few D90s in this use, and before that I used a D70 until that actually fell out of the housing in Alaska and was retrieved 33 days later and ultimately sent back to me. The camera was ruined but the Type I Capture card data was still in mint condition and it had UW images from California, Oregon, Washington, and of course Alaska. A self contained unit like the Nikon RS could be a really going unit and would I predict pretty good sales. Still you are looking at a $2,500 camera and it would have some size to it as the UW protective seals, etc., do take up space. It would also be based on a D7000 or equivalent, then be specially fitted for UW use. Of course I would buy one, but how many others would? That is why housing are used but as they cost more than the camera and lens…..sales are not going to be really big.

  • DaveyJ

    I meant Nikonos RS in the above post

  • zoetmb

    Even if they never intend to make another Nikonos camera, it is folly to let the trademark expire because someone else could use it causing confusion (although Nikon could use the confusion to try and invalidate the mark). But why go to all the trouble? Just keep the mark renewed.

  • Anonymous

    im not sure for other countries, but in america, registration isn’t necessary, as long as the company continues to use that brand or mark, it is still their trademark. registration just makes enforcement easier, when they sue for infringements.
    also even if the mark is registered but the company does not use it for long periods of time, they forfeit their right to the mark and other companies can submit to have the registration removed. trademark isn’t like some domain name, where it is yours as long as you register it. trademark has to be used and enforced.

  • nonanon

    im not sure for other countries, but in america, registration isn’t necessary, as long as the company continues to use that brand or mark, it is still their trademark. registration just makes enforcement easier, when they sue for infringements.
    also even if the mark is registered but the company does not use it for long periods of time, they forfeit their right to the mark and other companies can submit to have the registration removed. trademark isn’t like some domain name, where it is yours as long as you register it. trademark has to be used and enforced.

    • febbo

      +1

  • Lulz

    Is nikon financially healthy? Anyone know?

  • Mock Kenwell

    Nikonos is a niche market of amazing underwater pro cameras. The REAL shame here is that Nikon lacked the vision to dominate the Tough Cam compact market using the equity in the Nikonos name and the considerable know-how they developed making those cameras. THAT is where the future money could have been made. Tough Cams are all pretty shitty and it would have been fairly easy for Nikon to enter this market and command the lion’s share. It’s funny they didn’t do this, because it’s exactly the model they follow in their non-underwater lines—build great pro gear and trickle down the technology with the shared halo effect.

  • Kingyo

    They could just as easily come up with a new name for an underwater digital slr..

    • Steve

      Nikon Wetpix ?

  • John

    @Mock,

    I am wanting something more along the lines of a Digital Nikonos V. It must be full frame and I must be able to use my existing nikonos lenses.

    • Mock Kenwell

      Sadly John, I think you’re going to be waiting a long while. ;(

  • canapé

    Am I the only one thinking that the name would be useful is at some point they go for a modular programmable camera with a proper operating system?: NikonOS

    • ElPadre

      aw hell, i thought that was *my* idea. :) nikon Open Source. :)

  • Phil

    >>They could just as easily come up with a new name for an underwater digital slr..<<

    Dikonos LOL!

    Has someone else applied for the rights to the name since it expired? What's to stop Nikon from re-registering the name?

  • DarthDuster

    They should use the trademark for UW Housings that are camera integrated like a vertical grip.

  • enesunkie

    She has an interesting marine bag, and she’s a nikon girl!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knbp2-3AiuI&feature=relmfu

  • broxibear

    mirrorlessrumors are posting that the Nikon Q rumour from last year is true and Nikon’s mirrorless will be using the same sensor as the Pentax Q ?
    I’ve no information on it’s validity.

  • NRTARD

    Thanks for the link it looks like they are fiscally sound. I hope they stay that way.

  • Anonymous

    Last week Tim McKenna posted the below comment
    “juts recieved my new secret weapon from Nikon. a new underwater camera for some testing and campaign images. let’s go underwater”

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      this is interesting, thanks for the tip

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