List of not yet announced Nikon cameras


Here is an updated list of upcoming Nikon cameras that have already been registered with various government agencies but are not yet officially announced:


Β N1546

  • Digital camera
  • Made in China
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth installed

N1608

  • Digital camera
  • Made in Thailand

N1622

  • Digital camera
  • Made in China
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth installed

N16F1

  • Remote controller

N16H0

  • Dot site for camera

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  • my guess: D810, P900 replacements and new compact camera (Coolpix?). I think it is still too early for the new mirrorlress

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      Hmmm, so it will be a while before we hear about D610 and D750 replacements… actually, after the downright lackluster 6DII, Nikon can choose to let those replacements lapse 4 more years as both the D610 and the D750 can still kick 6DII booty! Have you guys heard about the 6DII having lower DR at base ISO than the 6D? And that its 1080 footage is softer, too?

      • yes, I think maybe in 2018, unless Nikon has a surprise

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          You mean like an entry level FF mirrorless? That’s a tough place to compete in, what with the existence of below $1K A7 with kit lens and the not much more expensive A7II and the upcoming A7III with 4K…

          • sickheadache

            I think the President of Nikon already said…it was Mid and High Level Mirrorless…He did not mention entry level…please re read what he said….

            • T.I.M

              I’m making a big party on the 25th for the D6x6x4x4+162+81+81 release, are you in ?

            • KnightPhoto

              yes it will be coming. Don’t break any bones! πŸ˜‰

            • Vince Vinnyp

              I think the announcement is that Nikon have bought Sony Fuji and Canon and we are going back to one large pixel aka Film cos that’s as Nikonish as it gets. πŸ™‚

            • KnightPhoto

              mid or high level mirrorless would be great

            • Michael Turner

              He talked about DL being not competitive enough and that’s why it was pulled. Made me think they would start with a crop sensor mirror-less to compete with the X-T20.

            • Davo

              If the DL was seen to be not competitive enough, could it go upscale? Maybe a direct LX100 competitor with the 18-50 equiv lens?

            • halo9

              This is what I was thinking too. The 12+ month delay would have made it a partially aged camera on release. I think during the delay/R&D they saw it needed to/could be more and have something better coming. If they learnt from their mistake too it will be an announce with availability and not a soft launch. I was waiting for an LX100 follow up, but if a larger sensor compact comes from Nikon I could be swayed ; )

            • sickheadache

              u mean …it could not and would not make funds for Nikon…that is the correct answer to the questions. BUT them same YA hoo’s…produced Mission Key or Key Mission…Failure. And we are still yapping…about D750’s Faulty Shutter. Again.

        • Allan
      • Eno

        I don’t think the 6D mk2 base ISO DR will be worst compared to the original 6D but also not better than the D610/D750 cameras. πŸ™‚

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          Although the measurements are based in pictures taken with pre-release 6DII bodies, I really doubt that the final product will differ much:

          http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%206D,Canon%20EOS%206D%20Mark%20II

          • Eno

            Wow, that’s bad news (for Canon fans).

            • sickheadache

              Yes, Canon’s foray into Mirrorless last year was a dumb down version…for their fan boys..nothing to write home about. It is was..and still is Lackluster.

            • CaMeRa QuEsT

              Not really, since they don’t seem to have any idea of what DR means…

            • Eric Calabros

              At least the new sensor looks ISO-less.

            • Eno

              That’s the opposite “of ISO-less”. It starts with lower DR at base ISO but it does not degrade so quickly when going up in values, exactly like the older Canon sensor tech tech.
              Nonetheless, another disappointment!
              The 5D mk3 in comparison looks like a hack of a camera, for a similar price compared to the 6D mk2.

            • Eric Calabros

              Its more linear than mountain like chart of 6D

            • Eno

              If you closely look it’s more like a curve than a straight line (ISO-less). πŸ™‚

            • CaMeRa QuEsT
            • KnightPhoto

              I completely trust Bill Claff, if that is what he says it is, “same as old 6D”, then it’s true.

              However what are we saying about the 6D sensor? Not one I’ve studied a lot, other than for a Canon, it has very good high ISO. Were there other limitations to the 6D sensor?

              PS. video specs completely uninspiring…

            • Given the increased resolution, Dual Pixel Auto-Focus (DPAF), higher FPS, more AF points, swivel screen, etc.; it’s definitely not “the same old 6D”.
              That said, the Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR) is remarkable similar.

            • KnightPhoto

              Oops I see it. Compared to a D750 the 6D has THREE STOPS less DR at low ISO. That’s a lot!!
              πŸ˜‰

            • Eric Calabros

              Oops.. its not linear at all.

          • JoeFunny30

            The d5 high ISO is crazy. I hope the d750 replacement is up there as well. Would be great if the d810 replacement was close.

      • KnightPhoto

        Plus the 6DII video specs were really underwhelming.

        I know people like to make flip comments about Canon video being “better” than Nikon, but it seems to me aside from Canon’s dedicated video lineup of cameras, the Nikon DSLR video output has been much better than Canon DSLR video… and for years now.

      • Andrew

        Pray for the D750 to replace the D610 as I do not see Nikon replacing the D610 with a new full frame camera at the $1,500 price point.

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          Logic dictates so, but with all the cost cutting going on at Nikon, they should be really tempted to make one like the D7500 with no metal body parts and with single SD card slot, actually just like the 6DII, which also shed the magnesium shell of the 6D.

    • CRB

      Any chance for a 1′ sensor inside this coolpix ?

      • Pat Mann

        That would be a monster.

        • CRB

          i didnt see that it was a bridge monster zoom camera…so, its the p900 replacement?…bummer

    • No, the new mirrorless should start to ship this year or at least in the beginning of next year. Sony is maybe doing a new product announcement at autumn. The longer it takes from this confirmation / announcement the less interesting it gets for the consumers. People who start waiting now for the Nikon mirrorless (in favor of Sony or FUJI) are getting screwed and point to the DL fiasco.

      • Andrew

        Nikon just came out with the D4, D500, and D7500. And they will be releasing the D850 (or D820) soon. That is a lot of high-end cameras. The D750 replacement is soon to follow. Many of the people that wanted mirrorless cameras whose needs were immediate have already bought one. Most of the Nikon faithful will simply wait to see what mirrorless camera Nikon comes out with. They are not going to jump ship.

        Nikon gave a good reason for dropping the DL cameras so as to come out with the next generation replacement. This is great news as people are asking for revolutionary products. So the next few months and early 2018 is going to be exciting.

        With regards to keeping the flame alive, that is why you come to Nikon Rumors. Keep coming here and I assure you that we will be talking about the Nikon mirrorless cameras until they are launched in 2018.

    • Justanotheropinion

      But is it really too early for their mirrorless cameras? I mean, they probably wouldn’t have confirmed that they are in development unless they had made some reasonable progress. Or, is that based on when these products first showed up?

      Personally, I’m waiting for the D760. Spec wishlist: ~32MP sensor, No-crop 4K, upgraded D5 autofocus (like they did with the D750) with Nikon’s version of dual-pixel AF.

    • Oz Baz

      Is there any chance they will release a limited run remake of an old camera like they did with the remake of the s3 and sp in the early 2000s ?

  • T.I.M

    Dxxx day minus 11 !

    • sickheadache

      D820. OR D850…I truly don’t know. lol

    • Peter

      D830, D829, D828…D820: Bang!

      • sickheadache

        I’m hoping for the D820VRBR549DIDCETMC007TIM

  • T.I.M

    By the way, why do we still say “digital” camera and not just camera.
    I don’t think Nikon will release a new film camera any time soon.

    • Hamuga

      I am holding out for a F7.

      • T.I.M

        F7, the film/digitaI camera ?
        I don’t think so, what I do now is loading my F6 with digital 35mm film, that way I get both, digital+film.
        :o)

        • Hans J

          haha one can dream.

        • IndyReader

          Because the F6 is no longer compatible with Nikon’s newer lenses they will need to come out with an F7 – unless they are completely clueless.That’s the only reason I am holding off buying one of the newer lenses, because I really need them to work with the F6.

          • KnightPhoto

            100-year anniversary film camera? πŸ˜‰

            How about 100-year announcement:
            D820
            D820H
            F7
            DF II

            • Pat Mann

              +DS2 (per the photo above)

          • T.I.M

            On all the lenses I have only 2 are not compatible with the F6, the 24mm PC-E and the 300mm f/4E PF (actually I do use the 300mm with the F6 at f/4)

            • IndyReader

              Actually the 24 PC-E is more compatible on the F6 than any of the newer E lenses are. You might need to check the manual closer for that lens, because they included a stop down button. Of course you always have to remember to use it. Those newer lenses don’t have that.

            • T.I.M

              Thanks !
              I always thought it was a d.o.p preview button !
              Thank you so much !

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              Ya, doh, didn’t think of if like that. I can use my PC-E on my Sony POS now.

            • Glen

              24 PC-E has a manual aperture ring so it should work fine with that. In fact, I prefer using it over the electronic aperture as it ensures my aperture is exactly the same for each shot when compositing.

            • T.I.M

              unfortunately, the 24mm PC-E aperture ring does not control the actual diaph, it’s electronic (E)
              non-E lenses close and open the diaph with a mechanical lever, the PC-E does not.
              :o(

          • ZoetMB

            Keep dreaming. There is virtually no market for a film camera from Nikon. None. Get real. There will never be an F7.

      • ZoetMB

        And I’m holding out for a 25-year-old beauty to want to marry me. I think the odds of that happening are greater than an F7 happening unless aliens stop all electronics from working.

    • Oz Baz

      Well they might given the upswing in film sales. Nikon’s premium film compacts ie the 35ti and 28ti are selling for several hundred dollars used. The contax T3 compact camera sells for $1500 second hand. It is just a matter of time and some one will produce a new high quality film compact.

      • Hans J

        I would buy it asap.

        • Eric Calabros

          There are not too many people like you

          • Hans J

            i doubt that. Film is coming back. FujiFIlm make most of its money thanks to film.

            • T.I.M

              It’s not because you say “I’ll be back” constantly that everyone will do.

            • Mikycoud

              Ahah, good eye!

            • T.I.M

              Thanks, I think you are the only one who got the joke !

            • Mikycoud

              That’s because the force is with me, young padawan!

            • Remember D900 and its launch date?

            • Davo

              Instant film. The operative word being instant.

            • Hans J

              Film is film

            • Davo

              Of course. But who’s developing these film?

            • Man Beadle

              Aside from many developing film themselves, film is being developed in labs everywhere, I’m not sure what you mean,

            • Davo

              All I meant was these processes have a time lag. The ‘who’ I’m referring to is people/machines (large time lag) vs the instant film chemistry (small time lag). The instant gratification nature is as important to Fuji’s instant film success as the medium itself.

    • Mike

      Yah, my Pentax 67II is digital as soon as I scan πŸ™‚

    • In the future, when cyberbiogenetic implant encoding and ESP networks reign supreme, there will be a need to differentiate between film and digital for the historical record.

    • Ric of The LBC

      instax

    • Pat Mann

      Maybe an instant one like the Leica?

    • Allen_Wentz

      Because we still have film cameras that remain a superior way to produce one-up photographic artwork.

  • doge

    ok

    • T.I.M

      You need to change your icon, that scares my kids.

      • tom

        I thot all the juveniles are at SAR. guess I was wrong.

  • T.I.M

    If the N1608 is not made in China that may be the one !
    Made in Japan – FX – 54MP
    :o)

  • Vincent Alongi

    There’s a requirement to register with governments? If so, why?

    • JXVo

      Some cameras have radio transmitters and receivers (wifi, bluetooth, gps) and are subject to various regulations on communication, frequency spectra, radiation etc.

      • Vincent Alongi

        Makes sense. Thank you!

  • mikew

    What will the Dot site be for,is it like the Olympus finder.

  • T.I.M

    I have not seen Russian/Spanish girls on NR for few days now, I start to miss it…
    :o)

  • T.I.M
    • Allan

      Poisson d’Avril.

      • T.I.M

        When you think that I get yell at every time I talk about the D15x15x4

        • Allan

          Some of you jokes make me laugh.
          Some of your jokes make me groan (I enjoy a good groan).
          Some of your jokes are silly.
          Some of your jokes are awful.

          I enjoy your uniqueness on Peter’s wonderful site.

          πŸ™‚

  • k8kk Ertuiwa

    how about start a thread on the new mirrorless range wishlist?

    • sickheadache

      I got a message from Nikon and Canon President’s ….We Don’t Read or Listen to our Customers. That Ends you puny attempt here! lol

      • Allan

        lol

      • T.I.M

        I do the same with my wife.

        • Stefan Hundhammer

          Your future ex-wife? πŸ˜‰

          • T.I.M

            no, my past new-wife !

    • Stefan Hundhammer

      It’s still a while until Christmas…

      And somehow I doubt that Santa Nikon will care about what anybody whishes today. Anything that is about to arrive in the next couple of months has been in the making for many months (more like 2-3 years) already. You don’t develop those kinds of products in a couple of weeks.

      So you should have sent your wish list to Santa Nikon about 2-3 years ago… πŸ˜‰

    • Allan

      Try to forgive sickheadache. Sometimes his (?her) migraines makes him irritable and not very social.

      Welcome to Nikon Rumors.

  • Brett A. Wheeler

    No D6s????????

    • Wilson

      Olympics bro

      • mas921

        2028 olympics actually

        • Brett A. Wheeler

          I would think 2022 at the latest. D3s Oct 2009, D4s Feb 2014, D5 Jan 2016, D5s 2018 (?), D6 2020 (?) Summer Olympics, and D6s 2022 (?) Winter Olympics…

  • Daniel D

    So Nikon will produce all of these cameras in China – in the mean time, Canon will produce all its mirror-less cameras in Japan. What do you think about that?

    • Chris

      Nothing special

    • Stefan Hundhammer

      I think about that that most of my computer hardware, my smartphone and also many other high-tech devices I own are made there. I love my Lenovo laptop, for example.

      Let’s face it: The Chinese have learned to manufacture high-tech stuff of all kinds to a very high standard.

      Also, my D750 and many of my expensive Nikkors are manufactured in Thailand. Why would that diminish their value?

      • Daniel D

        Maybe is just me and some bad luck with the Chinese stuff, but I bet a one year used Chinese Nikon camera will worth nothing compare with a similar used Canon camera. By the way – my brand new iPhone let me down after just 4 month use. Of course it was repaired by Apple under guarantee – but how much worth the repaired item now. ”It’s Chinese, what are you expected now?” said my friend …!!! A market developer specialist explained that for some very well known successful companies – the moving production facilities in China, it’s similar with the collapse. So… what is real, what is not?

        • And how many millions of iPhones are produced each day? You can even have bad luck with a airplane manufactured by Boeing or Airbus… it says nothing at all. Every manufacturer has to deal with this.

          • Ric of The LBC

            ask the Japanese air bag manuf.

        • Ric of The LBC

          Ok, I’ll give you $1 for that one year used Chinese Nycon. There, it’s no longer worth nothing.

        • Davo

          A lot of things are produced in China these days. You must have a lot of bad luck πŸ™‚
          Seriously though, even things that aren’t supposedly made in China will likely have components that are, including made in Japan stuff so it’s better not to worry too much about where it’s actually made but rather the parent company upholds their QC wherever the factory is located, be it Thailand, China, Indonesia or other.

          • A. F.O.

            A couple years ago a french TV showed us that the big electronic campanies had been assembly by a large number of years defective electrolytic capacitors…with what purpose? well to make them break down shortly after the warranty period…
            And for what?! For you and me and someone else to continuing buying and buying new things.

          • “so it’s better not to worry too much about where it’s actually made but rather the parent company upholds their QC wherever the factory is located”
            That is the point we have actually been worrying about lately.

            • Davo

              Yes. But the QC problem affects made in Japan products too. Eg. D800/D800E. Actually which made in China Nikon products have had major issues? I’m asking cos I don’t recall.

            • D800 issues were caused because the factory was devastated due to earthquake. So we have to give some benefit of doubt.

            • D800 issues were a direct result of devastation of factory due to earthquake/tsunami. That was then.
              But what I am talking about is not the bad QC of chinese made products but about bad QC of nikon supervised non Japan factories. See the part I quoted from your post.

            • Davo

              D800’s left focus issues was caused by the (2011?) earthquake/tsunami? Source please.
              And I did refer to Chinese made Nikon products (not Chinese made products in general) which include the Nikon 1’s, some lenses eg. 105/1.4E? I don’t know the complete list but which of these have known QC issues?

            • Don’t you think “caused” is a wrong word. I would say ” can be related to”.
              And the point was about Nikon QC in NON NIKON Factories. So I replied about it.
              As for QC issues Foremost are D600/D750. But that doesn’t mean much these days and that is the real point of our discussion. Nikon’s QC everywhere(also in Japan) is going down. Hence my reply.

            • Davo

              Your words were ‘a direct result of’. That’s a pretty strong assertion so cause would be the right word. So you are speculating then?
              I’m not disagreeing that general QC needs attention. My point initially was the OP placed too much emphasis on a particular country, in this case a country that probably makes components that go into just about everything.

            • Everybody gave them a benefit of doubt. And a QC problem in Nikon Japan was otherwise unheard of.
              I too always believed that the supervision of Nikon would make all the difference and not the country where production is made.

        • John Albino

          The reason some companies are moving production out of China is not because of inferior quality, but because Chinese labor costs are rising, and those companies are moving production to lower-wage countries.

    • Davo

      The ones produced in China will have better pricing leeway.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Daniel, you forget that for decades “Made in Japan” was synonymous with lowest quality. “Japanese” was routinely generically used as an adjective to describe poorly made or poorly constructed in the post-WWII decades. Not for reasons of cultural bias, but because post-WWII Japanese products really were very poorly made.

      Japan Inc. consciously and intentionally turned that around. I believe that China is doing the same thing.

  • TwoStrayCats

    Well, I have some not-yet-spent money awaiting, just in case.

  • Please Nikon do a big keynote / presentation for your mirrorless camera with some Apple style at the 25th of July. Marketing and perception is everything in social media and on the Internet. Sony has done a keynote for the A9, you should follow to catch Sony πŸ™‚

    • T.I.M

      Never ever say “Apple style”, do you want the new Nikon camera to be priced at $15,000.00 ?

      • Mehdi R

        lol

      • No, i meant simply the art of presentation with a keynote. Stream it to YouTube, make something big out of it. Marketing does have no boundaries in our internet times.

        • Davo

          In Japanese? Not sure how that’ll go down on youtube πŸ™‚
          I’m not too sure how effective the Silicon Valley style keynotes would translate for a traditional Japanese company. Part of the appeal of keynotes are the charismatic speakers that represent the soul of the company, best example being Steve Jobs.
          But the last time they made a big deal was for the D3/D300 bombshell. When you hear of all the press invitation to Nikon Tokyo HQ go out, you know they’re dropping another bombshell.

          • I like to see another bombshell. It’s time that Nikon repairs reputation of it’s brand and puts the faith back to customers. We can’t deny that some ex-Nikon users have already switched to Sony or FUJI.

            Nikon needs to understand why they want mirrorless. It’s because of less weight and smaller bodies + a set of smaller dedicated APS-C primes. What Olympus, Sony and FUJI have done is filling out the niche which isn’t covered by Nikon.

            That’s the only way why they have gained market share in making things different. For a younger audience mirrorless looks way more cool and modern because they grew up with smartphones.

            • John Albino

              You wrote: The perception of young people is like that the DSLR is the tool their grandpa are using. Nothing wrong with DSLRs”

              Consider, though, that “young people” are buying vinyl records, vintage clothing and artifacts, and doing other “retro” activities as well.

              Last year for example, vinyl records outsold downloaded tunes in the United Kingdom.

              Millennials are very “presentation-conscious” — presented the right way, even an old Kodak Box Brownie will sell to them..

              Just look at the renaissance of instant prints (Polaroid-like process).

            • Yes, you are right. They would probably love the Df from a retro design standpoint but they are also the ones who complain about weight and size the most (while it’s rather no problem for me).

              The size of the Sony A7 and A9 is critical for me as example as it impacts ergonomics and battery life in a bad way. But Sony finds the size aspect obviously more important to sell that stuff.

      • A. F.O.

        nikon should have done something in “big” when they announced the D5/D500 pair.
        eh, but it is Nikon/old Nikon with rumor about.

      • whisky

        no. the new Nikons should sell in volume, Apple style, so that Nikon can afford to remain competitive. πŸ™‚

  • Mehdi R

    N1608

  • dingding

    I will be feeling seriously shameful of myself to buy any made-in-china in the rest of my life. mourning the death of Liuxiaobo on July 13,2017.

    • Harold1966

      It will be hard to buy anything for the rest of your life from a conflict-free, environmental justifiable, carbon neutral, etc etc source. Principles are nice to have, and I do understand the sentiment, but they are so hard to live by in real life.

      If humans are any interest of you, you already couldn’t buy anything from China for ages, with human rights corrupted every day, the ongoing war against Uyghurs, the Taiwan situation etc etc.
      I guess that the only 2 places on earth that don’t attribute to war and terror are the poles. But then again, nothing is made there.

      • A. F.O.

        even the poles arenΒ΄t safe…big oil campanies are there right now; the north route is gaining sea traffic and there’s all kinds of drug molecules in the water of Antartica!
        So…Gaia will preval…if/when humans disappear or abandon it!
        Nikon: give me a 1′ sensor in a P900 with raw πŸ™‚

        • Harold1966

          Build on the moon?
          I forgot the Nazi UFO base under Antarctica πŸ˜‰

        • MB

          You mean Nikon DL24-500?

  • bharat

    Can we expect a D500 refresh in 2018…….. ? D510?

    • A. F.O.

      no.
      perhaps in 2020.

    • No

    • MB

      If you think of D500 as a refresh of D300 than be prepared to wait for a long time πŸ™‚

    • Why? What’s wrong with the current D500?

      • bharat

        Nothing wrong with it…..Just Nikon always refine its line after a new product…..I am planning to do many wildlife shootings in late 2018. Hence, I was thinking if a refresh of D500 would be on the cards. They usually upgrade after 2 and 1/2 yrs. Thus, my guess is early 2019 would feature a D510.

        • Buy a camera when you need it and not when you are awaiting a new camera. That’s how professionals are doing it – it’s a tool for the job πŸ™‚

          • bharat

            Jorge, I completely understand that….I already have a tool for the job and I want to upgrade. And I dont want to upgrade and realize that 6 months down the line, the product which I just bought has been upgraded. Is that easy to comprehend?

            • I don’t know what you loose? Does a new camera mean that the existing model has become totally useless? There aren’t any big leap forwards anymore for DSLRs. The D500 is a excellent tool. May i ask you what you are missing on the D500?

            • bharat

              Its just my hard earned money and I would rather wait and shoot with my old gear until an upgrade is ready. Like I said, I will not stop shooting…I will simply delay buying an additional replacement gear. I am not a pro…..so I can afford to wait….All I wanted to know was the wait time……..

            • I wouldn’t drive myself crazy with that. Just buy the camera you want when you are in need for it.

              There will always be something better on the market. For example my D600 was surpassed with the D750. But to be honest: I don’t care. It will not improve my photography skills.

              Technology doesn’t stop because you buy product. You need to buy a product that is fulfilling your requirements. And then learn to utilize it the best way you can.

              How can you have fun with your camera if you’re constantly looking about a newer product? That looks more like a gear acquisition syndrome.

            • bharat

              I am enjoying my present gear….It does not stop me from learning new skills…….

            • If you plan to shoot wildlife and are in need for the D500 i would simply buy it without asking myself if the product gets replaced in 6 months, 1 year, 2 years or 3 years. The D500 is still unmatched by Canon.

              You will never buy anything if you’re asking yourself when it gets replaced. Technology is in constant transition. Mirrorless is the next big thing in technology…

            • whisky

              you’re both right. everyone wants access to the newest technology, if possible, but photography is always more about the photo than the gear.

              a pinch of creativity would help too. πŸ™‚

  • animalsbybarry

    As we get closer to the new mirrorless one thing that has not been talked about much is sensor size
    FF is great and many people love it
    Some people want smaller and lighter equipment and like APSC

    APSH might be a good choice for a new mirrorless

    It is about midway in size between APSC and FF
    It would’ve used with full frame lenses, and Nikon would not make seperate H lenses

    Being slightly smaller it would eliminate the most extreme edges where images tend to have the most quality issues while utilizing almost all of the sweet spot of the lens image

    This might be a sensor size to consider ????

    What does everyone think ?????

    • It would use FF lenses( Dx are anyway not usable much) why not keep sensor in FF territory? No mirror box so no extra savings. Size also would be odd ( not that it matters to me) so extra work and no recycling of sensors possible. All this assuming nikon wouldn’t want to come out with a whole new mount and lenses to go with it.

      • animalsbybarry

        No new mount….F mount
        Still use FF lenses but get a little extra reach and eliminate the most extreme edges where image quality is at its worst
        Larger sensor than APSC but less to carry than FF

      • Pat Mann

        Much narrower angle on all FF lenses, need new wides with shorter focal lengths, and zooms with more appropriate ranges. There is a reason that we have 14-24 (or 16-35), 24-70 and 70-200 as the trinity for full frame after 60+ years of SLR lens development in the format – each range is good for specific applications. Going to APS-H would make the ranges a bit off for those applications.

    • MB

      If Nikon decides to go for new camera system with new mount and lenses than APS-H could be a viable option …
      The camera and lenses will be much smaller than FX.
      The APS-H sensor production is much cheaper than 35mm, I mean an order of magnitude cheaper …
      But disadvantages would be that Nikon could not source existing Sony sensors and tweak them, they would have to design them from scratch and find someone to manufacture them … unless of course they source it from Canon:
      http://global.canon/en/news/2015/sep07e.html
      It will need a whole new line of lenses because existing lenses would not have the size advantage, FOV will need to be adapted for APS-H, for example there is no f/1.4 85mm or 105mm APS-H equivalent in the current Nikon lineup (the closest 58 is aprox. 75), and there are no wide enough lenses too (14-24 would be 18-31) etc … you will also need an adapter to use existing F mount lenses …
      So interesting idea … with some reservations …

    • I don’t see any advantage in APS-H at the current stage. If you want a big sensor go full frame. If you want to have less size and weight for lenses (smaller image circle) or more reach for telephoto go APS-C. FUJI is a good example of how to create a very good lens line-up for APS-C. They understood that they could combine small cameras with smaller lenses.

    • Antonio

      It wouldn’t have chances to work and it would be an almost certain fail: the ones selling APS-C and saying their IQ equals FF Γ§ike Fuji) and the others (Sony FF) saying Nikon was using a crop sensor with lower IQ and not the same shallow DoF.

  • br0xibear

    Talking about announcements, the UK prices for the 100th special edition cameras and lenses are out…

    Special Edition D5 Body with presentation case…Β£7,699
    Special Edition D500 Body with presentation case…Β£2,599
    Special Edition AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8E FL VR with lens element presentation display and case…Β£3,599
    Special Edition f/2.8 lens set AF-S 14-24mm f/2.8G, AF-S 24-70mm f/2.8E ED VR, AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR…Β£7,699

    Sales start end of July 2017

    Source: Grays of Westminster

    • whisky

      better hurry before they’re all gone. =:-o

      • br0xibear

        They’re available to pre order at Grays, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve already sold out.
        I don’t have figures showing how many are going to be made available worldwide, but I doubt there will be many.
        “Limited Availabilty” and “Order now to avoid disappointment” is all that’s been said.

        • Allen_Wentz

          Anyone want to buy a Gitzo “Anniversary Edition” tripod with offset center ballhead?

          No, sorry, it has not been stored in the box for decades…

    • MB

      I am not sure how many people will buy repainted consumer products at those prices.
      If Nikon really wanted to make something memorable they should have made F2 and Noct replicas…

      • It’s a collector item of current Nikon technology for rich people.

        • MB

          Yeah but reach collectors do not buy something that common and cheap.,, On the other hand 100 anniversary should be about history …

          • Maybe they have more value in 5 – 10 years as collector items from a 100 years anniversary when Nikon has moved more towards mirrorless systems in the future.

      • Antonio

        My only question is: would you buy them at the foreseeable price if Nikon went your way?

        • MB

          Would you buy repainted 6500$ d5 for 7700$?

          • Antonio

            Sorry, I don’t want to be rude but I think I was quite clear when I said “I wouldn’t buy neither ones nor the others” (being it “repainted” or “memorable replicas”), therefore your question seems a bit odd to me.

            But, anyway: for a collector or an “investor” in collectable goods it may be different and the sentimental value or how much such products will increase value and offer a return in the medium/long term can’t be assessed by normal rationals or usage value.

            • MB

              Funny, I only received the first part of your message … anyway I wouldn’t buy either too, but for those abnormal rationales you mentioned maybe something more extravagant than current camera repainted would be more appealing for those who have money to burn:)
              Nikon used to do something like this with rangefinder replicas…

  • Michiel953

    A “list of not yet announced cameras”.

    I have some trouble getting my head round that concept.

    • List of cameras that have been registered with various government agencies but are not officially announced – I think I mention this in my post already. Does it make sense now?

      • Brent Rawlings

        I’d like to read the headline “DX prime and zoom lenses”…

        • A. F.O.

          Buzz buzz…but Peter says nothing about it so we may be sure it will not happen this 25th. Not even this year…

  • HD10

    One thing is evident … Nikon has done an excellent job in keeping its new products secret. While many of us have some idea about what the new products may be, none have any real solid information about it.

    So the waiting for the July 25 announcement continues. As this is near, I will just keep busy taking photos until July 25 and be surprised for a change. =)

    • I personally hope there will be more than the successor of the D810 on the 25th of July.

      While the D810 is a great camera it wouldn’t be exciting news to have a existing product replaced by another of the same tech with “pimped out” specs – that’s business as usual in the computer industry to have better hardware specs.

      • Brent Rawlings

        Will the D610 be replaced or will the D750 or its successor take its place?

        • That was not my intended thought πŸ™‚ It was more about Nikon and the future about mirrorless. I am interested to see in which direction the company is heading to and what solutions they are applying…

          Is Nikon having a bright future or not? That’s the question dependent from the product strategy.

  • outkasted

    Anyone hear about Bowens? Liquidation rumors?

  • jvossphoto

    Off topic, Peter isn’t there any talk of a updated 28-300G lens?

    • No, have not heard anything.

      • T.I.M

        What about a 500mm f/4 E PF VR ?

        • KnightPhoto

          Yes please!

  • Hm. That’s the reason why i say speed up Nikon, please.
    http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/sony-will-launch-new-a7iii-135mm-400mm-fe-lens-year

    Quote from the link…
    “We can be pretty certain this is what Sony is going to announce this year”

    • According to the same website the a9 was supposed to be announced 3 years ago, so let’s wait and see…

  • KnightPhoto

    Hmm just noticed 2 of 3 cameras are made in China. To date that has not included any DSLRs. China manufacturing included Nikon 1 mirrorless cameras in the past. So… maybe 2 mirrorless cameras πŸ˜‰

    Wishful thinking on my part but I’d like to see BOTH a DX and an FX mirrorless camera released and then we can make our own decisions or buy both…

    (one fly in the ointment, am pretty sure though that Nikon China has manufactured various CoolPix also in the past)

  • T.I.M

    I wonder what’s the % of NR readers who are Americans. (I’m talking people born in USA, not fake Americans like me)

    • Allan

      (I’m not a 100% sure why you are asking this.)

      Gomer Pyle (Jim Nabors) was a popular TV character in the 1960’s. Although I found the character irritating, there’s no question his sincerity and simpleness sang to peoples’ hearts. Wikipedia has a good article about Gomer Pyle.

      The Gomer Pyle character is “quintessentially American”.

      • T.I.M

        I only know US tv series that were translated in French and play on French tv (quite a lot)
        Here are my favorites:

        Bewitched
        The time tunnel
        Wild wild west
        The invaders
        Columbo
        Space 1999 (UK)

        • Allan

          Off topic.

          I have always enjoyed French movies, and we get a good selection of them in Dallas theaters. They are well attended here. (Actually, we get many excellent German, British, Italian, Scandinavian, Asian, South American, etc, films here.)

          We’ve discovered some quite good British TV series on Netflix. I don’t see many (?any) French TV series; probably not enough people here are willing to read subtitles, and it’s probably expensive to translate them into English.

        • Allan

          Also off topic.

          One of my favorite cartoon characters, when I was growing up was, PepΓ© le Pew. Have you heard about him?

          • T.I.M

            French movies are great, but french comedies (funny movies) are not very popular in other countries because we have a very special sense of humor (very special).
            Even if you speak French (like my wife does) you won’t enjoy French comedies.
            We have a lot of great comic actors, Louis de Funes (Spanish name :o) is one of the best ones.
            You can get a good all regions DVD player at B&H for $40
            No, I have no idea who is Pepe le Pew.
            If you are interested, I have tons of French DVD movies, comedies, drama, action, that I could sell to you for cheap (you will need a all regions DVD player)

            • ZoetMB

              Truffaut films, most of which had comic elements did very well with art house audiences in the U.S.

            • T.I.M

              Try “The diner game” ( Le diner de cons) if you laugh while watching it then you must be French.
              :o)

            • Allan

              Many of the French films that make it to American theaters are comedies.

              Pepe le Pew is a cartoon character introduced in 1945. Take a look at YouTube and then Wikipedia if you want in-depth information.

      • ZoetMB

        I was going to say “no”, but now that I think about it, he was an idiot and America has become an Idiocracy. 6% of those polled recently think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. 57% of Republicans polled think higher education is bad for the country. The only difference between Pyle and today’s Americans is that the character was a sweet guy and people today are much meaner.

        But Bill Paley, Chairman of CBS, hated all those “country bumpkin” shows (Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Gomer Pyle, etc.) and CBS canceled them all. As replacements, we got far more sophisticated fare: All In the Family, Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart.

        • Allan

          If you listen closely, there is some sophisticated themes and humor in Beverly Hillbillies. I can’t comment about the other two shows because I didn’t like them and watch them.

          You’re right. They hit home runs with the replacement shows.

    • Allan

      T.I.M

      There are lot’s of us running around. I’m from Canada.

      (“The percentage of people living in the USA who were born outside the
      country reached 13.7% in 2015 and is projected to hit a record 14.9% in
      2025, the report said. The country’s previous high of 14.8% was set
      in 1890, when waves of Irish, Italian, Polish and other immigrants were
      coming to the USA.” – USA today)

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