Nikon D7500 pre-orders now open at B&H and Adorama


B&H and Adorama opened their online ordering for the next two days (until Friday evening) and already have listings for the Nikon D7500 camera (some of the links may not be live yet):

B&H:

Adorama:

Amazon:

UK pre-orders:

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  • Eric Calabros

    If the upcoming 10-20mm is only $300, it could be a nice kit for this body. Kit lenses don’t necessarily have to be a long range zoom. Of course you need to educate your customer base to acknowledge that. For instance, instead of encouraging them to send love letters about New York, make a Facebook challenge like this: capture NYCโ€‹ with only an ultra wide lens!

    • Max

      I love challenges like that

    • Spy Black

      Now that we know how much this camera sucks, we need a new rumor…

      • Wade Marks

        Lol. The camera doesn’t suck, it just isn’t something groundbreaking that gets the attention of internet camera nerds (of which I am one myself).

        The key will be the D820…it has to impress. And if Nikon releases a Df2, and what that has to offer.

        • Spy Black

          Yes and no. Considering what it is, it’s a “nice’ camera. Considering what it follows, it sucks. Royally.

          • Jacob Smith

            Remarks with no substance.

            • Aldo

              4k (cropped) and snapbridge (which was expected and way overdue in nikon cameras). Everything else was a downgrade including arguably (for some, ask TIM) the sensor.

            • Jacob Smith

              You would be surprised what a 20MP sensor can do. I have a friend who uses a D500 professionally and he has done 24 x 36 printouts that came out awesome. As for everything else being a downgrade hence my statement above.

            • Aldo

              Pardon my deliverance, but I believe it is your statement above (“remarks with no substance”) that presents no evidence to counter the ‘valid’ arguments against the d7500. Saying that ‘there is no global warming’ does not disprove the evidence to the contrary.

            • Jacob Smith

              Your pardoned and you misunderstood my comment. Someone saying something with nothing to back it up hence my comment.

            • Aldo

              What is it that is not being backed up?

            • Jacob Smith

              Simply anyone who says that its a downgrade, its a step back, but in general saying things in a way to imply that the device is inferior without stating any proof or specifics which is why I said remarks with no substance.

            • Aldo

              Okay I’m not sure if you are oblivious to the alleged ‘downgrades’ that have been discussed here for the last couple of days or you just simply disagree with them. In either case, evidence has been provided to support the case of calling them ‘downgrades’. I myself illustrated the downside of the single card slot choice. If you disagree with that for example, then you must provide evidence or a cohesive argument as to how that could be considered an upgrade or ‘no change’ from the previous model.

            • Jacob Smith

              Oblivious not really, The only thing I am reading here is differences in opinion about the designs of the camera and what each person would to like have but as for evidence the only thing being posted is just opinions discussing the pros and cons and no real world experiences to back up the claims and nothing more.

            • Aldo

              Again, when it comes to the single card slot ‘downgrade’ I supported my argument with evidence of how my work has benefited from having two card slots in my camera. In my case, not having the second card slot would have resulted in the loss of files for a paid assigment.

              I have not personally vouched for any other ‘downgrade’ claim, but so far the evidence to those claims outweigh what has been provided to disprove them, which is why I ask you to provide with ‘substance’ to challenge those claims (and mine) to support your point of view.

    • Allen_Wentz

      10-20mm for $300 would have to be some really lousy glass. I would hope Nikon would not put its name on such a lens.

      • Eric Calabros

        At social networks resolution, you cant see how much lousy it is.

  • At this price I would rather have a pre owned 7200/7300

    • silmasan

      Strange, if I were shooting for a used D7200 I’d go for a much lower price today…

    • Erick Tessier

      Good luck to find a D7300.

      • It will be out soon ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

      • T.I.M

        Nikon is working on it, 8MP sensor, no card slot (pictures are transfer to your phone), camera body made with clear silicon (make it easier at the airport), 2 AA batteries. no grip, no strap, no case, no box (the camera have to be downloaded on Nikon’s website)

        • Allan

          How long before you can resume taking pictures?

          • T.I.M

            Only few more days I hope.
            Next time I’ll try to break the right thumb, it will be more difficult for me to type comments.
            :o)

            • Allan

              Seriously, don’t rush your recovery. Don’t do less than the doctor instructs or your thumb will get stiff. Don’t do more than his/her instructions, or it will take longer to heal and might not heal properly.

            • T.I.M

              I don’t go to the doctor for just a broken thumb, this is USA not France.

            • Allan

              Taking care of your thumb is worth the cost of one of your lenses.

              I hope your thumb heals properly.

            • T.I.M

              53K hospital bills last year, I need a break.

            • Allan

              Sorry. Our system sucks.

            • Mr_Miyagi

              Oh? I’m scheduled to have a full knee replacement surgery. My cost? $0. Yep, nada. zip. zilch. Entire cost of operation and hospital stay paid by my insurance. I put it off for nearly two years, but the inevitable has come. Cannot wait any longer.

    • Spy Black

      At this price you can get a new D7200 and probably a lens.

  • blckcat

    I wish the screen tilt mechanism have the hinge on the left side which can also rotate, so that one can take vertical photo at low and high angle as well..

    • doge

      Then buy the D5500 and/or the D5600. The 5500/5600 is more than enough camera for 99% of the population.

      • Erick Tessier

        50% of the population isn’t in the 99% of the population…

      • Viktor

        This information is so wrong, that it competes with the wrong Nikon expectations ๐Ÿ˜€

        The stats show theat people are buing more high end cameras and turists grade cameras are strugling with in-Phone cameras ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Pros and serious enthusiast make now around 50% and those 50% cannot be enought with D5xxx……

      • Fail! Not an answer! D5500/D5600 don’t have HSS with flash and only has 1/4000 max shutter speed.

        • Jacob Smith

          You must only take portraits to be concerned with HSS and if you need anything faster than 1/4000 then you must be attending an airshow trying to photograph a jet breaking the sound barrier.

  • Senor Magnifico

    Meaningless information.

    • silmasan

      ^self-referential

  • T.I.M

    I ordered 2 or them, that way I have 2 SD cards slots!
    :o)

    • tobi

      LOL!

    • Sawyerspadre

      Good strategy!

    • Brent Rawlings

      Does anyone make a SD card to dual micro SD adapter?

      • T.I.M

        good question!
        I’ll google that.

      • T.I.M

        They do! Just google it.
        Now, I don’t know if the D7500 interface will accept it.
        But that could be a good way around to replace the 2nd slot.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/170a8b254fb15367190d5d1736200ab852ec5f235604d3a857d73fe087d1b840.jpg

        • Spy Black

          That’s rather fascinating! I wonder if you can fit a RAID 0 controller in that thing. I can’t see why not, considering it already has some kind of controller circuit in there.

        • Stuart Crowther

          Nope, that turns micro sd cards memory stick for Sony devices, from what I read, the device will not see it as two separate cards but as one. eg: 32GB + 32GB = one 64GB card : (

          • Proto

            yup!

            (1) its one mega memory, not two duplicate memory spaces

            (2) Nikon camera likely will not offer a assignment option in their menu to assign one card as primary and other as backup

    • Wade Marks

      You score the award for the best comment of the day, TIM!

      • T.I.M

        yes, more I get thumbs up and quicker I will recover!
        :o)

        • Proto

          just gift me your 200mm f/2 and call it a good day!

          • T.I.M

            I sold it few weeks ago (replaced by the 300mm f/4E PF VR)
            I miss it, fantastic portrait lens, and ultra sharp!

    • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

      So the D7200 can write the buffer to two sd cards simultaneously at half the speed of the D7500 single sd card? lol

  • Allan

    Stereo.

    • Aldo

      And he has the option to make 3d photos!

      • Allan

        I showed my ignorance. It is designated stereo cameras and stereo photography, but the images are 3D.

        Thanks for the correction.

        • Aldo

          I didnt correct you… was just adding to your funny comment

          • silmasan

            Yes, Aldo, please stop being so patronizing… sheesh
            :p

            • Allan

              I actually thought (crappy memory) it was called a stereo image. I appreciate both of Aldo’s comments.

            • silmasan

              Allan… I was just teasing Aldo randomly… ๐Ÿ˜

              Anyway, I think we all get the stereoscopy reference right away though.

            • Allan

              Got it.

    • Brent Rawlings

      Quradrophonic if placed properly in relation to each other…

  • James Titanium-Chef

    Interesting; ~$100 difference between the price of a D7500 and a D750 on Amazon.

    • Mansgame

      wrong. D750 is still $1800-$1900. If you’re seeing a price much lower than that it’s either refurbished, grey market, or a scam.

    • James Titanium-Chef

      Read it wrong, with vs without lens. Apples to apples, ~$300-400 difference.

  • Mansgame

    This price will come down after a couple of months. Overall not a bad camera, but this isn’t going to be a pro or super serious amateur camera. Fortunately, there are plenty of affordable full frame cameras now days.

    • Andrew

      It is not going to happen, the pricing is staying at $1,250 for a whole year or more. The D7500 is essentially a smaller, lighter, and equally as capable D500. I prefer the D7500 it also has a pro build quality body and a fantastic ergonomic body with an amazing hand grip. It is the biggest upgrade the D7xxx line has seen since the release of the D7000. And with 4K video, the D7500 will be enjoyed by professionals and prosumers for years to come.

      I did not have much of an interest in the D7200 when it was released because it lacks an LCT Tilting Touchscreen, lacks 4K video, and lacks the ergonomic body of the D750. It is good for Nikon to keep selling the D7200 as it is a fantastic camera and quite affordable.

      • Nikon King

        This isn’t The D700 that stayed at $3000 for 3 years. I paid $2000 for my D610 (and $2100 for my D600 before it all went wrong) and before the year was done, it had already dropped $300. D750 is now down to $1900! I’m not complaining though because my D610 is getting a bit long in the tooth and I don’t want to spend more than $2000 on my next full frame camera.

  • T.I.M
    • I am Indifferent.
      I think people are making a mountain out of a molehill – dinging the missing slot – they likely put it into saving space, the disappointment of losing battery life must be tempered with a change in sensor performance – this sensor is great, I am sorry it kicked your dog Tim.

    • Allan

      That is just too harsh.

      • T.I.M

        You’re right, the D7500 is probably not made in Japan.

        • Allan

          Also not appropriate.
          Your image is not funny; I find it vulgar.

          I’ll let you have the last word.

          • T.I.M

            I’ll let to Peter the choice to delete it or not.

    • jstevez

      C’mon TIM, the D7500 has a “Pet Portrait” mode.

      • T.I.M

        We don’t have pets on the Island.

  • T.I.M

    Question:
    If Nikon offer for free, to exchange my 6.3kg AF-i 400mm for the new 3.8kg AF-S 400mm E VR
    Answer is: YES!
    Question:
    If Nikon offer for free, to exchange my D7200 for the D7500
    Answer is: NO!
    The D7500 is clearly a mistake from Nikon, and a mistake they make at a critical moment!
    I think the D7200 will stay in Nikon’s DSLR line for a wile.

    • Eric Calabros

      The only mistake I see here is that a exotic lens owner refuse to pay for pro level body.

      • T.I.M

        I like the build quality of the D500 but I don’t think my pictures will be better by switching my D7200 with the D500

        • Eric Calabros

          Anybody can say this about almost ANY new ILC released by ANY camera maker.

          • T.I.M

            I use the D7200 only with telephoto lenses (the D800 is still the king in my camera bag).
            So 24MP vr 20.9MP is important to me.
            I shoot ISO 800 max so I don’t need the D500/D7500 crazy high ISO.

            • Wesley

              Whether it’s 3MP or 30MP difference, all that doesn’t matter if the critical photo is NOT IN FOCUS and the D500 will be better at that.

            • T.I.M

              I never had issue with auto focus using Nikon cameras, I do calibrate my all my lenses with AF fine tune, for example, the AF-S 20mm f/1.8 need -16 on my D800 (no correction needed on the D7200)

            • Andrew

              T.I.M, I agree with you. If you are pleased with what you have, and you have recent camera models, there is no need to get the next new camera.

            • Aldo

              Did you bother to read what I linked to you ??? your lenses cap at 17mp with the d7200

            • T.I.M

              I did read it.
              I do compare the pictures I take with my D7200 et the same ones I take with the D800 cropped.
              Trust me, the D7200 24MP is sensor is a real gem!

            • Allan

              I’m curious to see a picture of a well lit static scene taken with a D7200 and D500. How much do you have to enlarge the D500 image before you see better detail in the D7200 image? Obviously, you can just do the math and state the dimensions of the 2 images where you should see the difference. But I’m curious to see how the two images enlarged look to the human eye. (I’m too lazy to do a search).
              This will influence my decision when I eventually upgrade my D7100.

            • T.I.M
            • Allan

              I think Nikon Rumors needs to give you a D500 so you can take comparison photos for me. (Didn’t NR give out a D610 in last year’s raffle?)

            • Allan

              The detail is stunning.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Put that $2k lens on a D3400 and you will get a very similar pic. Using that pic as some kind of example of D7200 goodness is disingenuous IMO.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Hell, “a well lit static scene” can be shot well with a pinhole camera or any old cheapie point-and-shoot. When you start thinking about upgrading, handle your upgrade choices and shoot some difficult captures as well, including in limited light. See what feels right to you.

            • Aldo

              D800 has a perceived resolution of 7mp in dx for those lenses…

            • T.I.M

              That’s what I told my wife, her answer was: “why are you insulting my mother”
              :o(

        • SteveWithAnS

          You pictures would only be better if you are shooting BIF or fast action. The problem I have with the D500 and 10fps is that I get too many keepers and then spend hours in lightroom trying to determine which picture is best. Sometimes if they’re all good I just have to waste even more time and create a flipbook style video with them…The build quality of the D500 makes my previous camera the D5200 feel like a cheap toy.

          https://youtu.be/EqpfTaJr5Ac

        • Allen_Wentz

          YOUR pictures will not be better. You like the D7200 body, so good for you. Why would you switch to D500?

          But for some of us the ergonomics, build, AF, feature set, sensor, etc. of the D500 are in sum total literally twice as good as the D7200. The D500 is a pro body, a very different tool than a D7xxx. And note I did not mention frame rate.

          If you shoot D7xxx and do not feel a huge difference when you handle a D500 for a few minutes, stick with D7xxx.

  • A. F.O.

    Hi
    first comment here; NR folower for more than 2 years, I guess;
    I own a D7200 for 18 months and I think I would not exchange it for the new D7500, even if Nikon would offer me one for free, like TIM says…

    After seeing the specs it seems Nikon has to much D500 sensors in the inventory; D7500 seems a little strange: not better than D7200 in terms of photos; not better than pro-D500 in terms of photos, speed, ergonomics, traking objets and future value and status; not better than D750 because it’s a DX…no handgrip and a single SD card…and sold with the 18-105 mm VR!…like the D5500/D5600, I suppose…
    It was a Nikon’s decision made before the so called new strategy to make more profits or after?…
    No Df2.
    No D820/D850.
    No DX primes f/2.8 or so…
    A new 10-20 mm f/4-5.6??? Not for me; my D7200 24 Mp sensor needs better glass like the nikkor 20 mm f/1.8
    Ricoh/pentax’s in trouble; Panasonic’s the same; Nikon ?
    Well history tell’s us mortals that Nikon did the D1…
    Let’s celebrate the past 100.

    Cheers for the NR’s Peter

    I usually like:
    Eric Calabros
    Tom H
    br0xibear
    Sawyerspadre
    Aldo
    …and
    TIM ๐Ÿ™‚

    • RC Jenkins

      I think you’re thinking about this wrong. When you do the comparison about “not better than the D7200 in terms of IQ but not better than the D500 in terms of speed.” But the D7500 is better than the D7200 in terms of speed (and other things) and better than the D500 in terms of price. That’s how the D7xxx have always fit in to the lineup.

      You mentioned the D750: take a look at that one for example. It’s worse at speed than the D5 and worse at base-ISO image quality than the D810. But it’s also faster than the D810 and better IQ than the D5. That’s what it’s designed for: compromise.

      There are a lot of people complaining about the D7500. I personally just find it entertaining. It’s not a D5600. It has most of the traditional differentiators between the D5xxx & D7xxx: Controls, AF, speed, etc.

      It’s interesting to listen to people whine that they’d prefer things like a second SD card & optional grip over a tilting LCD, much more speed & buffer, auto scene, etc. on a camera that (by definition) is designed to be compromised and launches at this price point, with a pro-level model above it.

      • Wesley

        It’s not the price point compromise that is the problem, it’s expected.

        But the deliberate omission of features that was on the predecessor just to save D500 sales. That’s just poor taste.

        • Andrew

          Omission is not the operative word here, the word is substitution, trade-off, and value. The D7500 does not omit any feature in the D7200 that affects performance. The D7500 is such a significant upgrade from the D7200 that I would sacrifice a second SD card slot for its many major enhancements.

          I waited for the D7200 and when it came out I decided to skip. It looked nothing like the D750 that I admired. Now with the D7500, I am getting the awesome D500 in a smaller body. With the D7500, Nikon is advancing prosumer photography and giving professional photographers a capable and affordable backup camera. Good job Nikon!

          • Wesley

            Want to give me a reason why they would take out battery grip feature?

            I see no reason why they should downgrade what was already there (two slots, LCD res, battery life, etc).

            So you skipped D7200 because it wasn’t like D750 and you’re getting D7500 because it’s like the D500, what…?

            • Andrew

              OK, let me help you see my perspective on things and what the D7200 lacked:

              1. The ergonomic body/hand-grip & LCD Tilt Screen of the D750 released in Sept. 2014.
              2. The LCD Touchscreen of the D5500 released in February 2015
              3. And the D7200 was released in April 2015, after these cameras.

              So there were enough things lacking in the D7200 as it was not updated to Nikon’s latest technology. And now with the D7500 we get 4K video and much of the D500 innovations including the EXPEED 5 image processor. The D7200 is an excellent camera but it lacked enough of the things that Nikon had already shown and what we were expecting next; and so I decided to wait. The D7500 is going to be an amazing wildlife and sports camera.

          • Brent Rawlings

            No grip. No deal. Next.

            • Jacob Smith

              Really want to know how many people actually use the grip. I hear a lot of people whining about it missing from the D7500 and at the same time I keep hearing a lot of people asking why on earth do you want to turn a D7xxx series camera into a D4 or D5 wanna be. Most do not and there are a few out there who feel the need to think they have something that looks more pro and hoping that everyone looking at them will be impressed and think that they are more pro than they really are.

      • A. F.O.

        you are right in a way…
        it seems to me that this new camera offers more for video folks; sure it is faster than D7200….but….with less pixels density; only one SD slot it’s a problem, as many in NR have said allready; sure it has a tilting LCD…and more buffer (if it is a new model, an upgrade, it is supposed to…right?), but for me it’s not na big upgrade (from D7200->D7500); for me it seems more like a D7200->D7300).
        ๐Ÿ™‚

        • manattan

          The pixel density is really a non issue. Just wait and see, as Nikon is likely going to bring the same sensor to the 5xxx and 3xxx series.

    • Sawyerspadre

      I think you are right that they are saving cost by using the same sensor as D500. I think the other reason was to add the 4K video and do it with an image processing chain that was already up and running, bringing in Expeed 5. Who knows, maybe the interns can spend some time fixing Snapbridge!

      • A. F.O.

        Yes: 4K needs Expeed 5 (as in D500), but… Expeed 5 does not compute with enough speed to be used in a 24 Mp sensor….so drop it to 20.9 Mp et voilรก!…
        Ken Rockweel says it is a 20.6 Mp….!?…in is site….Typo?

        • A. F.O.

          I correct myself: from nikon UK site:
          DX (24 x 16) image area, (L) 5568 x 3712 (20.6 million), (M) 4176 x 2784 (11.6 million), (S) 2784 x 1856 (5.1 million);

        • Jaroslav Charvรกt

          In D5 and D500 the Expeed5 is able to process 200 MP per second. Divided by 8 fps in D7500 you get 25 MP per frame. How about that? Expeed5 is not the bottleneck here…

  • T.I.M

    Today’s picture, what you can do with your loved D7200!
    My cat is not allowed to go in my bedroom but she like to get in it.
    So today she hide behind the big Sony clock (usually she is hiding behind the curtains or in the closet)

    D7200 DX 24MP (with a vertical grip and 2 card slots)
    ISO 1100
    Custom white balance (using the white ceiling to setup)
    Speed 1/15s
    Aperture f/8
    VR: on
    No flash.
    Lens: Nikon AF-S 300mm f/4 E VR PF (450mm FX)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2d3c42d43b9ae31bc41d82d74ce1d219600cd1754c71594e0aa5baadf93ddbc.jpg

  • T.I.M

    He say his D7500 have 2 SD card slots (probably a special request to Nikon, Ken have 2 kids)
    Not a word about the missing vertical grip.

    • A. F.O.

      yes….
      and he says D7500 has 2 SD slots!…
      ???
      and that it is a 20.6 Mp not a 20.9 Mp (typo, for sure)

  • T.I.M

    D7500 Ken’s review (look like he like the D7500)

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d7500.htm

  • T.I.M

    Ok, I don’t know if I did something wrong but my comments with the link for the D7500 review by Ken.R was deleted.
    Anyway, if you go on his website look on the news or Nikon reviews pages.
    Ken like the D7500 (he like every Nikon digital camera).

  • Chewbacca

    I wish my D700 had a second card slot. Unfortunately, compact flash are the size of Texas toast so it’s understandable why it was omitted.
    When it finally goes I’m going to hold a funeral service and float it’s burning body out to sea. It will drift off past the horizon as a tear slowly rolls down my cheek.

    • T.I.M

      My D800 have CF+SD card slot and that’s fine, I don’t need 2 CF cards slots.
      I use the 2nd card slot to put the video or to do a backup (weddings).
      Nikon made a big mistake on the D7500 deleting the 2nd card slot.
      People who buy the $500 D3400 (with a zoom lens) won’t buy the $1250 D7500 body.

      • Chewbacca

        I really only use photography for my fine art so I don’t really have a need for a second slot but I would certainly want it if I performed a service like shooting weddings.
        I can understand the gripe from that perspective especially since they had it in the previous models.

        • Allen_Wentz

          Exactly. Anyone shooting a wedding for pay should be into a D500 or some other dual-card body.

  • T.I.M

    Hi Peter,
    Are you still on good terms with Ken Rockwell, do you want me not to mention him or his work on NR?

    • we don’t discuss any of the Kens here

      • T.I.M

        Sorry, I did not know, anyway people know where to find him if they need to.
        Any new leaks about Nikkor primes like ultra wide angle?

        • Aldo

          When are you fixing your thumb?

          • T.I.M

            hard to fix my broken thumb, nobody wants to give me a hand.

  • T.I.M

    Old people like me don’t have that issue (if issue it is).
    35mm films (or slides) were expensive so we only shoot at the right time and only once (maybe twice if the girl was hot)
    Even now I always wait the right time, the right exposure, right focus to press the button.
    It does save me time in photoshop.

    • Wesley

      You must not have tried the F5 with 8fps…
      F6 can do it also with battery grip.

      • T.I.M

        I do have the battery grip on my F6 (loaded with 8 AA lithium batteries).
        So fast, it scare the little kids…

  • T.I.M

    The D7200 build quality is not bad at all, it came before the D500 and was at the top of the DX line.
    It feel pro quality, just like my D800
    I think the best SLR (build quality) I owned so far is the F6, specially the viewfinder, large, bright & clear.

  • I will pass. Nikon would have been much better off making a D7300 that was the exact same as a D7200 but with flip screen lcd than the D7500. This was an obvious attempt to sell more of the 20 mp D500 sensors without cutting into D500 sales with all of the handicaps the D7500 has.

    • Aldo

      It was more like a d6500

      • T.I.M

        I think Nikon will reduce the number of DLSR in its line.

        • Spy Black

          They should reduce the price of the D5xxx and get rid of the D3xxx.

          • Aldo

            And start putting a second dial on the d5xxx…

            • Bob Thane

              Probably wouldn’t suit their cost saving/level differentiation plans. Though it would be welcome. With that said, the button layout of the D5200 I have is good enough to change ISO/aperture/shutter speed without much fuss, even with one dial. Honestly even easier than on the D610, thanks to better ISO button placement.

            • Aldo

              Cant repurpose rec button on d610? I dont remember

            • Bob Thane

              Not that I’ve seen, I think that’s only with the D750 and D7x00 models.

            • And start putting HSS in the D5xxx so we can actually have a body that has a fully usable screen and a way to use flash to its highest potential.

            • Jacob Smith

              Only important if your into portraits.

            • Ric of The LBC

              and 8fps
              and the D500 sensor
              and the D7200 AF
              and
              and
              and

              ๐Ÿ™‚

    • AYWY

      It is more likely that they wanted to put in 4K, and they have a working solution with the D500 20mp sensor.

      They have D7200, D5500, D3400, D3300, D5300 on the 24mp sensor. So choosing the 24mp variant could net them volume savings as well. The “save on 20mp volume” thinking does not work because the alternative choice gives even more volume savings.

      4K demand is the “culprit”. Though you can berate Nikon for not getting 4K to work with other sensor variants.

      • Jacob Smith

        If Nikon would have skipped the 4K recording like they did in the D3400 and D5600 you are still going to have plenty of whiners complaining about it.

    • Jacob Smith

      Either people will be whining. If Nikon had released a so called D7300 with the sensor and AF from the D7200 but added the tilting touch screen you will be hearing people complaining not having 4K recording, wishing it had more FPS, and mostly saying that it was too similar to the D7200 so its not worth upgrading. You just cannot make everyone happy.

  • Flickr_Channyuk

    I think if Nikon had released the mythical D400 back in the day e.g. instead of releasing the D300s, going straight to the D400 with the 16MP sensor before the D7000 came out, then the D7000 (and D7100 and D7200) would most likely not have gotten the dual SD card slots that so many feel are missing from the D7500. As others have already pointed out, dual card slots in the D7xxx range up until the D7500 was because these cameras were in so many ways the flagship DX model until the arrival of the D500. I think Nikon are trying to recalibrate what the D7xxx series is meant to be, just like it did with the D750 for the D7xx series.

    • Wade Marks

      Bingo. You get it. Nikon put more into the D7xxx models because they were at the time their top DX units. Now with the D500 these models are expected to fill another role in the lineup…the D7500 really picks up the lineage of the ever so successful D90.

      If someone needs the 2 card slots, grip, etc…they can always get a D500….assuming that one really needs those features, and is not just getting them because it looks nice on the spec sheet.

      • Jacob Smith

        or trying to think or look more pro than they really are.

    • I agree with that. But the problem is pros do not use only flagship models for work. At least not the pros in less developed countries. But they care about things about backup. Also if only flagship pro models have dual card slots then what are D750/ D610 doing with it? And D7xxx cameras occupy same tier as D750. Another example that shows nikon’s indifference to Dx.

      • Jacob Smith

        Having a need for the second slot is still over rated. There plenty of pros who use cameras with only one slot and considering that when shooting a wedding if something happens to the card the shooter is in for a major lawsuit yet despite this possibility it seems there are plenty of pros out there using cameras like the Sony A7R II with no problems and yes it only has one slot and it amazingly it is just an SD slot.

      • Allen_Wentz

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    • Allen_Wentz

      “I think Nikon are trying to recalibrate what the D7xxx series is meant to be.”

      Exactly. I keep harping on that. Nikon _must_ be reconfiguring their model lines as they bring new bodies into a rapidly shrinking DSLR market.

  • Brent Rawlings

    What a camera it could have been only if it had a grip and two card slots. I’ll skip it, thanks very much.

    • Nikon King

      Like a D500?

    • Jacob Smith

      Do you actually use the battery grip and have you actually had so many SD card failures that you feel the need for the second slot? Hopefully you are not like the many wanna bees out there who wants these just so that the camera is more like a D4 or D5.

  • Wade Marks

    It is funny how people used to complain about the D7200, how it was boring, where was the D300 successor, etc…and now the D7200 is such a spectacular camera…

    The D7500 is fine…it will do well enough in the market…most people who will buy a camera like that are not so engaged in this online banter.

    But this does illustrate one point: in today’s world, especially in technology products, you have to consistently wow the market with your new stuff or else the buzz turns very negative very quickly. Just coming up with competent iterations is not enough. You’ve got to really get people’s attention. That’s what the D500 did, for instance…

    The problem that Nikon had was that if they put everything that people wanted in a D7500, it would have negated the need for the D500…because basically people wanted the D500 in a D7500 price.

    • Dennis

      I’m still wowed by the D7100 for what it is. This is a step backwards in many ways except for one, the buffer size.

      • RC Jenkins

        (…and the burst rate,
        and superior metering rgb sensor,
        and low light AF sensitivity,
        and ISO range,
        and video,
        and timelapse,
        and tilty screen,
        and WIFI,
        and DR & High ISO image quality)

        Yeah, every real photographer would want a second SD card slot over those things any day.

        Seems like ‘enthusiast photographers’ are less ‘photographer’ and more ‘feature enthusiast’ now.

        • Dennis

          I’m a pro photographer; I use my D810s for my main work. I still like my D7100s for what they are though, and most of the things you just mentioned are not as important to me with the D7500.

          • RC Jenkins

            That’s fine, but you just sort of answered yourself, didn’t you? You don’t use this camera for your main (pro) work.

            I don’t understand how improvement along all of those things is ‘a step backwards except buffer size.’

            • Dennis

              I will continue to use my D7100s I would not use a D7500. That is a step backwards.

            • RC Jenkins

              Oh I see now. Thanks for clarifying.

              The Nikon D7500 is a step backwards (in an unspecified way).

              Sounds like the D7200 was a step backwards from the D7100 as well, since you never moved on to that?

            • Dennis

              Yeah, in a way. I never felt a need to change for my DX needs. Not enough improvements to move the needle.

            • RC Jenkins

              There is a difference between ‘taking a step backwards’ and ‘not taking a step forward.’

              There are also more improvements than just buffer size. Just because these haven’t met or exceeded your upgrade threshold doesn’t make this a step backwards in everything other than buffer size.

            • Dennis

              When they are taking things away that I use, I define that for myself as a step backward.

            • RC Jenkins

              That’s cool that’s how you define it in your head. People define many things in their head.

              But that’s not what you wrote above; nor is it consistent with your D7200 comment. What you wrote in the past few posts was illogical and inconsistent.

            • Ric of The LBC

              The Good Enough

            • Dennis

              Exactly! My existing D7100 is already good enough for DX. The D500 is my DX upgrade path IF I was so inclined. I shoot 100% FX now anyways. Always improving is the goal.

        • Spy Black

          Let’s go through your list here:
          Burst rate: sure OK
          Metering: sure OK
          Low light: better than D7100, but no better than D7200.
          ISO range: sure OK
          Video: crop frame 4k is not really an advantage.
          Timelapse: D7100 has it.
          Tilt screen: sure OK
          WIFI: I wouldn’t consider being locked to Snapbridge and no NFC an advancement.
          DR/High ISO: sure OK

          So really, only 5 out of your 9 points really count. They’re certainly good points, but they come at the expense of shorter better life, lower resolution screen, loss of AI coupler, lower resolution, and of course, only one card slot, among others.

          For the average photographer, these things probably won’t matter much. However your sarcastic remark that “every real photographer would want a second SD card slot over those things any day” is a rather short-sighted and uninformed at best. When you shoot time critical events, you damn well better have dual cards slots redundantly recording that once-in-a-lifetime event. Your entire career depends in it.

          So yes, there are many photographers that will gladly “want a second card slot over those things any day”. For Dennis, the real upgrades are either a D7200 or a D500, depending on his budget.

          • RC Jenkins

            There are a few things wrong in your response. For the low-light AF sensitivity, you brought in the D7200–but this is a comparison specifically to the D7100. And the D7500 is twice as sensitive for low light AF (-3 EV vs. -2EV).

            There’s also a big advantage in video. The D7100 only does 1080i @ 60 fps. The D7500 doesn’t crop 1080–only 4k.

            The D7100 has timelapse…but it maxes out at 999 shots. The D7500 does 9999. I’ve done many 1000+ frame time-lapses.

            WIFI is still WIFI. Live preview.

            So no, more than 5 of the 9 points ‘count.’

            And relative to the D7100, the D7500 has the same battery life.

            As far as your “when you shoot critical events,” that’s an easy one: if it’s that critical, you should have a second body and a second card on you. The camera notifies you of card failure (and you can spot check crimp), and it’s easy to swap one out. Problem solved. If it’s that critical and your entire career depends on it, even a single body with dual card slot won’t be enough. Also, if your entire career depends on it, why would you get only a D7500?

            But you’ll notice that you’re arguing all of these points, without addressing the ‘step back.’ There are more steps forward than just the buffer size.

            • Spy Black

              “For the low-light AF sensitivity, you brought in the D7200–but this is a
              comparison specifically to the D7100. And the D7500 is twice as
              sensitive for low light AF (-3 EV vs. -2EV)”

              I said better than D7100, but no better than D7200. So what’s your point?

              “There’s also a big advantage in video. The D7100 only does 1080i @ 60 fps. The D7500 doesn’t crop 1080–only 4k.”

              Considering 4k is the hype, again, what’s your point?

              “The D7100 has timelapse…but it maxes out at 999 shots. The D7500 does 9999. I’ve done many 1000+ frame time-lapses.”

              That’s different than just pointing out “timelapse”, as if it were a new feature.

              “WIFI is still WIFI. Live preview.”

              No it’s not. You can’t use it with third-party apps like DSLR Dashboard, you can only use Snapbridge.

              “And relative to the D7100, the D7500 has the same battery life.”

              That’s a comical reply at best.

              “As far as your “when you shoot critical events,” that’s an easy one, and
              not short sighted: if it’s that critical, you should have a second
              body and a second card on you anyway.”

              That truly shows your short-sighted and uninformed knowledge of shooting critical events, and why two card slots exist in a camera in the first place.

              “Also, if your entire career depends on it, why would you get only a
              D7500? Especially if you were presumably lacking the budget or
              investment decision to spend more? That would be short sighted.”

              As far as a D7500 goes, you’re certainly correct there, but a D7200 is quite capable in comparison.

            • RC Jenkins

              LOL in case you hadn’t noticed, this was a direct response to someone’s comparison to the D7100. That’s the point. It’s not that difficult. I could have pointed out how the D7500 is better than the Nikon D40 if you wanted?

              The other differences are actually differences. I never said timelapse was a new feature: you just misinterpreted that without following the theme of my list. I also just said “video” and “ISO range,” etc. but only those who didn’t have the capacity to follow along would think these were brand new features. Heads up: the D7100 also had “ISO range.” And video. Good job.

              You’re also incorrect in implying that WIFI does not exist on the D7500.

              …and let me remind you that you’re the one who incorrectly stated that the battery life on the D7100 is inferior to that of the D7500. And now you’re mad I brought it up? lol

              Compare to a D7200 if you want. That’s irrelevant & out of scope of my reply, which was about the D7100.

              BTW, I’ve professionally shot events for decades (digitally, for about a decade or so). I’m not at all uninformed on this, and I do prefer two slots. I also have multiple cards, and I’ve never missed an event due to card failure. Note I didn’t say I’ve never had a card fail on me (I have).

              The D7xxx is not a pro-level camera. Your expectations for it are too high if you think it is. Nikon’s brought back the pro DX: it’s called the D500.

              Learn to stay on topic and not get emotional and defensive over your D7200. It’s very difficult to have a cohesive conversation when someone like you can’t follow a train of thought.

              Let me break things down for you: this is like if someone says “this car isn’t 4x faster than my 20-year-old car; therefore it’s slower.” And I say, “No, it’s still faster. Just not fast enough for you to upgrade.” …and then you come in with a “You’re wrong because this 3-year-old car is faster.” No. That’s a different conversation.

            • Spy Black

              Dude, you’re not kidding anyone here.

            • RC Jenkins

              Umm…yeah. Who’s kidding about anything?

              Sorry if this was tough for you to follow. Here’s a picture for you:

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a5ddc4e2f00a82508c2bbcbe5dc485ba62ebea24dca76351d0a3aa7c728858a.png

              You obviously zealously love your D7200 and want to continue to use a D7xxx series for pro shooting–but it’s not designed for pro shooting. Doesn’t change the facts. Doesn’t change the comparison between the D7100 & D7500, which were introduced in very different times.

              The D7100 & D7200 were the flagship DX cameras (but still not pro-level) of their times. The D7500 is not. The D500 is. No matter how much whining you do, it’s not going to change this, and it’s not going to make it a pro body.

            • Spy Black

              Dude, I don’t own a D7200, but keep at it, let’s see who cares…

            • RC Jenkins

              Dude, you’re the one who cares & keeps replying without substance and entered this conversation about the D7100 vs. D7500. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Spy Black

              Don’t stop, keep at it…

            • RC Jenkins

              lol, yes another one of no substance! Quick! Cover up your tracks, where you look foolish for not realizing what the convo was about!!

              Your ego is fragile! Try to preserve it with more posts!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Spy Black

              Don’t stop now, keep at it.

          • Dennis

            If I were to move on from my D7100’s I would move up to the D500 at this point. I’ve been mostly a FX shooter since acquiring my D810’s. I have retained my D7100’s so far because they are still good units; good luck for those who want the D7500, I’m just not one of them.

            • Spy Black

              Well, I mentioned the D7200 because I didn’t know what your budget could afford, but clearly the D7200 would be a better backup camera than the D7500.

        • Allan

          “Seems like ‘enthusiast photographers’ are less ‘photographer’ and more ‘feature enthusiast’ now.”

          Hmm.

    • They could have reduced the FPS/buffer, kept 2 card slots, and kept everything else as it is on D7500. And D500 status would have remained untouched. After all D500 is bought by the people who appreciate ergonimics, durability, speed, and better Af.

      • Ric of The LBC

        “They could have reduced the FPS/buffer”

        The bitching about that would be louder than the 1 card slot.

        • silmasan

          Not louder, just different bitchers.

        • But the fact remains that buffer/fps are useful only to fast shooters who would anyway prefer D500 and regular photographers/pros would go for D7500.

    • John Albino

      Despite all the sycophantic-like defense of the D7500, the best proof that even Nikon believes this will be an underwhelming and probably under-selling product is the fact they formally announced it and released full details during one of the well-known worst times to announce new products (or best times to release bad news).

      This is Easter and Passover Week, one of the notoriously bad times (including Christmas Week and similar) to do what’s called in the trade as a “News Dump.” Politicians, for example, are well-skilled in releasing bad news late on Friday, when most journalists are out drinking and away for the weekend, and thus the “Bad News” gets buried over the weekend, and is forgotten about by Monday.

      Nikon did the D7500 News Dump on Tuesday/Wednesday of Easter/Passover Week when only we gear nerds are paying close attention. By next week, the D7500 will be forgotten about until it starts showing up physically in stores in a couple months. Then we’ll see what hits the fan in the Real World.

  • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

    Less megapixels, less shots per charge, less LCD resolution, less sd card slots, no D500 sensor…
    Way to go Nikon!!!!

    • T.I.M

      It has the D500 sensor, AF is same as D7200

      • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

        As far as Nikon says it’s not.
        The specs are different.
        It’s smaller.

        • Spy Black

          I doubt it would be something other than the the D500 sensor. Nikon is condensing it’s parts list. They’re probably the sensors off the wafer that don’t make the grade for the D500.

          • Allan

            Could you explain this in more detail? What effect does this have on image quality?

            • T.I.M

              more dead pixels

            • Allan

              Dead pixels on the D7500 sensor? At which point does the quantity (and ? location of dead pixels, if they are grouped together) of dead pixels affect image quality?

            • T.I.M

              you won’t notice it

            • Antonio

              Because someone referred it on a theoretical basis to the use o “defective” D500 sensors don’t assume That fast that D7500 has a “dead pixels problem”.

              Nevertheless, dead pixels can occur and affect sensors of all brands and models and there are even rules about the number that can be accepted without considering it as a problem, and this is something that also apply to LCDs, computer screens and TV sets.

            • Spy Black

              I wouldn’t know for sure, but I imagine dead pixels compensated for in software.

            • silmasan

              Come on… less sensitivity maybe, or less performant pixels, but not dead ones. The fabs wouldn’t survive to this date if they were that bad…

            • Spy Black

              I wouldn’t be too sure about that. The yields may be better, but I’m sure there’s a fair amount of dead pixels on every sensor.

            • silmasan

              Maybe you mean hot pixels esp if shooting long exp? Otherwise any brand new camera with known dead pixels should be replaced right away.

            • Allan

              From PhaseOne blog

              How to fix permanent hot pixels

              All image sensors used in digital cameras, regardless of make, model, manufacture or intended application, will have a number of defective pixels. This is not a problem, however, as these errors are mapped and accounted for when the camera is manufactured.

              Special algorithms then take care of replacing the invalid content of the defective pixels so the image appears as though the sensor is perfect.

              When do hot pixels occur then?
              When exposing an image at longer exposure times, from around a second and longer, a varying number of pixels may act differently from those around it and display much larger values than the average pixels. These pixels are called โ€œhot pixelsโ€.

              Why do hot pixels occur?
              The number of hot pixels is close related to the length of the exposure and the temperature of the sensor. In Capture One Pro 7 these hot pixels will typically be removed automatically.

              It happens that a sensor, after a period of time, may start showing some more stubborn or seemingly permanent hot pixels, even in images shot at short exposure times.

              This happened for one of my cameras after it had captured around 15000 images. With another camera however, it happened after just a few hundred images. This change can be caused by cosmic background radiation (EMR) hitting a pixel on the sensor and, unfortunately, it is simply not something you can avoid.

              If you mainly shoot in bright daylight you may never notice these defective pixels. However, if you have a really dark area in your image, it suddenly becomes quite easy to spot such pixels. But not to worry, with Capture One Pro 7 it is very easy to remove such hot pixels.

            • T.I.M

              That’s why you should NEVER put your DSLR in the microwave.

            • silmasan

              Yes, Allan, hot pixels are more common, especially easy to spot in dark scenes where you are forced to use long exposure and high ISO, as I said above.

              But “dead” pixels should be separated from that (please google Nasim Mansurov / photographylife article titled “Dead vs Stuck vs Hot Pixels” for a quick explanation).

              They are simply not active in any condition. If one were able to detect them on a brand new body, I’d suggest replacing it right away.

            • Allan

              Got it.

            • Spy Black

              Yes, sorry, my mistake. Hot pixels.

            • silmasan

              Hmm… I’d rather not think about that, at least until i get something new…

            • Antonio

              Let’s imagine:

              Nikon doesn’t manufacture their own sensors so they contract someone to do that (Sony?) and say I want X sensors with these and those specifications, how do you price them pls?

              The manufacturer presents the budget and says to Nikon: look if you accept bad sensors we can offer you a discount and you can use them to sell a cheaper model.

              Nikon accepts the suggestion but adds: well, a cheaper model is supposed to sell in bigger numbers that the one with the good sensors therefore we’ll need a lot of the bad ones so you have to raise the discount significantly.

              The manufacturer replies ok we will increase the number of bad sensors by wafer and double the discount.

              …and this way D7500 was born….

              Does it suit your theory? ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

            • T.I.M

              Dead pixels are “normal defects” on a camera sensor, you only notice them when you zoom at 100% and the picture is dark, dead pixels make very bright single pixels.
              They are very easy to fix with photoshop by using the stamp tool.
              On my D800 I have less than 10 of them, none of them are in the center so I’m not worry about it.
              Less than 10 dead pixels for at total of 36 millions, it’s not a big deal.

    • Wade Marks

      It does have D500 sensor…intended audience won’t notice those drawbacks that you listed…for instance, sure the battery takes fewer pics, but it still is more than enough for most people. A worthy tradeoff for a smaller camera body for this market.

      The less megapixels…again, most won’t notice. Less LCD resolution…If you showed people the 2 LCD’s they wouldn’t notice any difference. Two card slots are nice, mandatory if you are a pro…but for the mid tier enthusiast not a requirement.

      • The LCD difference is quite noticeable when zooming. And it gets more so in live view.
        You are correct in saying other things wont matter but newbies and consumers who go by numbers would notice reduced MP count and in this age of inflated MP cameras, the sale going to canon or sony is not good. Remember how many jumped ship to canon in the previous low MP era where nikon was stuck on 12 MP?

      • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

        I was comparing it to the D7200 not the D500.
        The screen between my D800 and D500 is a huge difference because of pixels count.
        And the D7500 is only one millimeter smaller than the D7200.
        If i had a D7200 I would not upgrade.
        Just like I didn’t upgrade to a D810.
        My D500 was a nice upgrade from my D7100. Im waiting for the D820/D850 and I’m hoping that it is a big step forward.
        That’s just my opinion, but what do I know! I’m just an enthusiast, not a pro.

    • jstevez

      … also USB 2.0, everything these days is USB 3.0 (yes, the D500 is USB 3.0)

      • Allan

        USB 2.0! It’s 2017.

      • silmasan

        Alright… so they scraped the remaining parts from the last decade for this one. Big discount LCD units too.

        • T.I.M

          The neck strap hocks are left over stock from Nikon ‘s film cameras.

          • Erick Tessier

            At least the SD card slot is too narrow to accept floppy disks…

    • Allen_Wentz

      Clearly we disagree. I think it looks like at great new camera at the D7xxx level. Period.

  • Tom Taubert

    Nikon is pretty clear in their adverts that this is not a pro camera, but a camera aimed at yuppies. I sure everyone could agree (of course not) that
    the absence of Ashton Kutcher in Nikon marketing is a positive development.

    “Born from a desire for flagship performance and
    innovation in a more compact and streamlined connected camera, the newly announced D7500 delivers resolution, ISO range, image processing and energy efficiency of the award winning D500 in an enthusiast-level DSLR.”

  • Aldo

    Stop complaining… at least you got video unlike the Df ๐Ÿ˜› (pure photography BS)

  • Andrew

    The D600 is a solid camera, but it was not as revolutionary as the D700. The D500 was revolutionary and the D7500 is essentially the same camera as the D500. Of course anything can happen, but Nikon will continue to sell the D7200 which is now going for $997, so I expect the D7500 to hold up its value ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • David White

    Love my d610, but yeah definitely getting king in the tooth. But I don’t Nikon will do another one, hopefully a d750 upgrade that’s around 2k.

  • commonsenseisdead76

    Best Buy has the camera available for pre order too.

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