Photokina day 0

Those are the Nikon related news from the first "press day" at the 2012 Photokina show:

  • Three new Sigma lenses with Nikon F mount:
    • Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 DC MACRO OS HSM
    • Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM
    • Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM

  • 0.45x wide angle conversion lens for Nikon 1 mirrorlress camera from Emolux.

  • Check out this Elicar 300-600mm lens.

  • Emoblitz D728V TTL flash with built in LED video light for Nikon DSLR cameras.

Two videos from the Nikon booth at Photokina 2012:

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  • drumbo

    Very nice! Thank you!

  • texasjoe

    New Sigma 35 1.4. Hmmmm. Could be nice.

    • O.

      …or the usual crap again.

      • it is new sigma, so it will again be very nice stuff, but poor quality control (even worse then Nikon nowadays – and that is something) and you have to send each lens at least twice to unresponsive service company to get it calibrated. your AF motor also dies about 2 months after warranty and it will have rather random exposure precision because metering works only sometimes (i blame nikon for that one).

        • Sigma 35 1.4 got a mini-USB port so that you can do FW update or calibration at home.

          • that might look tempting, but the firmware would be buggy

        • Twaddler Belafonte

          My Sigma 30mm 1.4 never had any problems, and was extraordinarily sharp in center wide-open. 😛 AF was so super fast. Sorry ’bout your luck, boyo. 😛

      • David

        Sigma primes are awesome. The 50/1.4 is far better than the Nikon 50/1.4. And the 85 gives the Nikon a run for its money for half the price.

        • inginerul

          I own the Sigma 85 1.4, the only one they had in stock, so I did not choose for the best lens in stock, or whatever. I love it, it is purely brilliant. Perfectly usable from f/1,4 with fast and accurate focus.

          I also own the 20 1.8 and it is very good, albeit kinda soft at 1.8, but at 2.8 is very good indeed. And it also focuses perfectly. Unlike my nikon 50 1.4 AFs and 35 f/2.

          Which is why I will definitely look into this 35 1.4, as soon as it becomes available.

          • Funduro

            Yup the 35mm f/1.4 looks interesting and price might be a factor if I purchase it. Very Bauhaus look too. Weight is TBD as of yesterday.

        • O.

          I own the Sigma 50mm and I really like the bokeh, the size and the weight. But the lens lacks sharpness, weather sealing and the autofocus broke after some time and is now even slower than the Nikon 50mm.

          The current 50mm 1.4 from Nikon is crap too, so I’m still waiting for a pro grade Nikon 50mm to get rid of the Sigma.

  • That Emoblitz D728V TTL flash with built in LED video light sounds very intriguing!

    • Simone

      There was an LED video light flash that was branded Polaroid. I think it was released last year.

      Found it. The PL160

  • Mike

    Holy crap those 3 SK lenses look insane! I’d love to have them if I can afford them, going to check price after posting comment….

  • Bernard

    What about the Nikon 1 System ???…

    • ageha

      I like to know that, too. Nothing new, no V2? ^^

  • phr3dly

    I know nothing about that Elicar lens, except that I want it bad.

  • thomas

    Cmon D400, Cmon

    • Ruud

      Indeed, hoped for the D400, disappointed… 🙁

  • Rob

    Admin, may want to add a *NSFW* warning to the Elicar link. The last image on the page probably wouldn’t be ok in some offices.

    • ^ only wants to get caught reading “safe” blogs at work? If you dislike your job enough to screw off reading Nikon Rumors while you’re there, you might as well just cut to the chase, watch porn, and let them fire your lazy distracted ass.

      • Victor Hassleblood


      • preston

        haha, well said!

    • Not Surprised

      I think he just promoted the website and doubled its foot traffic.
      Hope you got a commission, haha.

    • done

  • Wow, those 300-600 lenses look great. Any more info on them?

    • Rob

      I googled their other lenses and most people agreed they are worthless. This is a lot faster than their longer 600-1200mm lens so maybe it’s slightly better, but it still looks almost like a spotting scope with a camera mount. It should also be noted the 300-600 appeared at Photokina 2010, so being shown doesn’t necessarily indicate they will be released soon, if ever. Some other super-telephoto lenses of theirs that even had prices listed I don’t think were ever released.

      • Pablo Ricasso

        That 300-600 looks like quite a serious lens.

  • Thanks for the NSFW heads up on the Elicar lens link…..

  • Very nice indeed

    Wow, the Sigma 120-300 seriously needed updating (AF sucked and the mechanical performance was quirky. Hope this is the fixed version). Optically the previous lens was excellent, but I sold mine because of the aforementioned mechanical problems. This update might make me buy one of these new versions.

    I hope they release an updated 20mm lens as well.

  • Anonymous Maximus

    I’m disappointed to see a D600 instead of the more anticipated D750 & D400. Nikon had enough time for these. Let’s hope for next year.

    D600 is such a weird move from Nikon, something close to D800 but not cheap enough to justify what you’re missing. Neither for the pro, nor for the amateur, it’s just a niche product, for those who want a Leica-like dslr practice.

    D800 is my dream camera & I’ll buy it asap. Yet, there must be an affordable low-light prioritized camera D750 in D800 shape for wedding & event photographers, and D400 with improved low-light performance in D300s shape for sports & wildlife photographers. I’m sure each one will sell much better than D600.

    • Calibrator

      > I’m sure each one will sell much better than D600.

      What makes you so sure?
      Your gut feeling or do you actually have some marketing experiences?

    • RC

      Don’t most sports photographers use something like a D4? I mean, what’d they use at the olympics?

      I still don’t buy the idea that we’re missing anything significant on the D600.

      The D600 shoots 38% faster than the D800 (in frame rate).
      The D600 buffers 8% MORE frames than the D800.
      The D600 is quieter than the D800.
      I can’t wait to control my D600 from my phone and be able to see what it sees on my screen!

      When I started out in photography, my camera’s flash sync speed was 1/90. Then I got a new camera that synced at 1/125. In the times that I would have been limited by those sync speeds, 1/250 would NOT have solved the problem. We’re now talking about 1/200 vs. 1/250? That’s such an insignificant difference.

      My first camera’s max shutter speed was 1/1000. The next one was 1/4000. I never felt limited. I mean, I’m sure having a faster maximum shutter speed could expand your possibilities but it’s not an absolute requirement for me.

      Keep in mind that the D3/300/700 start out at ISO200 compared to ISO100 on the D600, so that actually means that the D600 is capable of dealing with more light than cameras that start at ISO200.

      Round eye-pieces, remote/PC jacks, whatever, whatever…all nice, but we’re really digging to find reasons not to like the D600.

      • RC

        Correction: I meant to say that the D600 is capable of dealing with the SAME amount of light compared to the D3/300/700 (not more).

  • Loris

    Have you seen the high iso samples of the d600 by this guy?
    They look quite good

    • d600

      the ISO is just too expensive 🙂

    • preston

      Thanks for the link. It looks about 2 stops better high ISO ability than my D90. It’s 12800 looks like my 3200.

  • matt

    I’m really eager to see Nikon continue to release AF-S updates to their “2nd-tier” prime lenses of the f/1.8-f/2.8 persuasion: 14mm, 18mm, 20mm, 24mm, 35m, 105mm, 135mm, 180mm. A 70-200mm f/4 is also long over-due.

    • inginerul

      Few people will buy the 70-200 f/4. Nikonians complained endlessly about a 24-105 f/4 as well. I don’t see anyone queuing up to buy it.

      • preston

        Actually, I think the 70-200 f/4 would fit in nicely between the $600 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 and the $2,400 70-200 f/2.8. If the 70-200 f/4 had pro-level build quality and good optics it should sell very well for around $1,300.

        I really can’t see Nikon updating the 2.8 primes though. Those were developed at a time when prime lenses produced much better image quality than zoom lenses. Since zoom lenses have caught up so much (like the 14-24 being better than all the f/2.8 primes in its range, like the 14, 20, and 24) there is really no need to replace these. The only thing primes give you now is the potential for larger aperture and maybe a little weight savings, but unless they’re pancakes (which would prevent large apertures to some extent) the weight savings won’t make them sell.

        • iamlucky13

          I’d very seriously consider a 70-200 F/4.

          Although lately, I’ve been thinking more that I’d like to see an AF-S update to the 180mm F/2.8 instead. That should be a fantastic lens to use with a TC or by itself, but be quite a bit more affordable than the 200mm F/2, and both faster and cheaper than the 200mm F/4 Micro.

          Baring one of those options, my leading choice for upgrading over the 70-300 is the 300 F/4…which itself wouldn’t hurt from an update to add VR.

          • RC

            Would a 70-200 F4 be that different than a 70-300? Do you want that extra stop? Or is it about IQ?

            • iamlucky13

              The extra stop at the long end would be welcome…I think the 70-300 already hits F/5.6 by 200mm anyways.

              The main thing I want though is more sharpness. I am presuming Nikon would make a 70-200 F/4 comparable to the one Canon offers, which is a sharper lens. If a 70-200 wasn’t sharp enough with a teleconverter to beat the 70-300, then obviously I wouldn’t have any reason to upgrade, but since the 70-300 gets moderately soft from 200-300mm, I’m pretty sure Nikon can make a 70-200 F/4 worthwhile.

  • Jabs

    ‘Photokina Day 0’ – WHAT? Does this mean that at the time of post, Photokina had not started yet. What an odd way to express this – lol

  • D

    thought that nikon will suprise me but… it hurts me more…., what can i say…. going for mirrorless but not with 1″ sensor..
    think there will be no D400 as D600 can be set to 1.5x

    • jake

      >think there will be no D400 as D600 can be set to 1.5x

      well , I dont think so, the D400 or whatever called highend DX will come out sometime in next year because the D600 1.5X mode is not pixel dense enough , even the D800 1.5X mode is not as pixel dense as the Sony A77 v or Canon EOS7D, so Nikon needs to release something really similar to the Sony with better AF and sensor.

  • derek

    I think I ‘d try the Sigma 35f1.4 and Xeon 75mm lens for video , they are so cool.

  • Could some ask somebody from Nikon @ Nikon PK Store were the D400 is?

  • Dweeb

    I’d rather just see the Canon L lenses that Nikon won’t make put in a Nikon mount. The 8-15, 300 f4 IS, 17mm shift …

  • Any Anon

    Initial reviews indicate that high-iso performance of Canon 6D is about 2 stops better than Nikon D600.

    I’m not a troll, I own a D700 with several lenses, and planning to buy a D800.

    • iamlucky13

      Are there useful samples to compare yet between the two? Canon’s site doesn’t have any full res samples above ISO 800, as far as I know. The reviews I’ve seen go no further than comparing the spec sheets.

      The spec sheets only tell us that Canon is at a minimum willing to supply their users the option to shoot at 2 stops higher ISO. That is not the same as saying their ISO performance is 2 stops better. They may just be willing to show their users 2 stops more noise and/or noise reduction.

      Or they may be using binning to trade resolution for useful high ISO. 2×2 binning to 5 MP would correlate with a theoretical 2 stop improvement (somewhat less in the real world) in noise, and would still yield 300 dpi for a 6×9 print, so it is not unreasonable to offer it.

      Perhaps they’ve worked some of the improvements of the 1Dx sensor improvements into a radically less expensive body, but I’m skeptical. Considering Nikon never passed the D3S improvements down to the D700 despite the vocal demand, I tend to suspect achieving the insane high ISO performance of the D3/D4 and Canon 1Dx requires a more complicated chip design and/or fabrication process not well suited to a $2000 camera.

  • Pablo Ricasso

    You mean someone is reviewing the camera that won’t be ready for another three months???

    You mean you’re not a CANON troll?

    FLMAO. How pathetic you are.

    • iamlucky13

      That’s a bit of a severe reaction to a claim that would benefit you if true.

      If Canon did indeed manage to pull a 2 stop improvement out of their hat, I’d be ecstatic! It would drive down the price of Nikon gear in the short term, and give Nikon a new performance target to shoot for.

      It might make things slightly tougher in the short term for pros who have too much invested in Nikon equipment to switch for a single generation, but only slightly because the situations with today’s bodies where inferior performance at high ISO loses them a job should be rare, and buying a used D3s gives them an alternative to switching.

      For hobbyists whose livelihood’s don’t depend on producing better photos than the next guy, there’s no way to lose.

      • Pablo Ricasso

        I apologize for my reaction. If Canon had performance of any kind I would include their stuff in my stuff.
        But the guy was a troll, pretending to be uninformed and preying on the uninformed. I just don’t have much tolerance. The speedometer on a Chevette might also go to 160. I’m not going to like the guy who tells me that the reviews of the up and coming 2 cylinder Chevette say that it accelerates and handles better than an NSX. You’ve got the idea… I hate trolls hawking garbage. I buy my stuff used. If everyone buys garbage then all I get is garbage to pick from. People… Please stop buying garbage.

  • Pablo Ricasso

    I haven’t seen anybody do an actual test of the PRE PRODUCTION samples, but I read this at DP review…

    “The 6D is clearly aimed at tempting APS-C owners to upgrade to full frame, but here Canon has given itself another problem. Its EF-S lenses simply won’t fit on the 6D, so users with a decent collection – perhaps the 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM and 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM – will have to buy a new lens set to use with it. At which point the barrier to switching systems becomes rather lower, and the temptation to change brands stronger. On the other hand, let’s not forget that Canon’s EF lens lineup is very strong indeed, with a large number of reasonably-affordable fast primes to go alongside the workhorse ‘L’ series zooms, and more-esoteric optics such as the unique MP-E 65mm f/2.5 1-5x Macro.”

    “Overall, though, it’s difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the ‘wow’ factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that’s become the company’s hallmark. It’s still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be.”

  • I like the new design (exterior) from Sigma…very clean and simple…good job Sigma.

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