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NPS Japan stopped selling Nikon D4 cameras

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I was told that NPS Japan stopped selling Nikon D4 cameras through their equipment exchange program. This is another good indication that a new flagship model is coming soon.

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  • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

    Interesting!

    I’ll never buy a pro FX body, but I can still enjoy the show, right?

    • rt-photography

      why not? because of cost? or no need? D4 is too expensive for me but would love to upgrade my D3 to D3S for its high iso capability.

      • O.

        The D3 is still a superb camera with fantastic image quality. I still don’t see any reason to sell mine and get a newer body.

        • bratvlad

          I agree, I had both D3 and D3s. sure D3s is tiny bit better in ISO, and bigger buffer. If you don’t really really need that much, D3 is the same camera for a $ 1.5 k less used

          • rt-photography

            try to read the comments fully.
            I noted that I have the D3. I said I would love to upgrade from a D3 to D3S.

          • ShutterStill

            If you had both D3 and D3s for a while… You wouldn’t say anything like you had said

        • rt-photography

          IQ on my D600 resolving power and lower chroma noise is better than my D3. but would love the D3S for shooting at iso 8000-12800. I have both btw. but the AF isnt the best in low light. though with the assist beam of a flash on top or my 622n slaves its negligible. its very accurate and fast. and I have no issue with crammed sensors as I use the single focus/recompose style. I love the confidence inspiring feel and sound of the shutter compared to the wimpy sounding D600.

          • David Portass

            I owned a used D3 (86k clicks) for about a week but after doing all sorts of tests sent it back to buy a D600 with grip, crazy I know but I rented a D600 before for a wedding and while it has its draw backs (AF) I loved the image quality from it especially at high ISOs which I felt were much better than the D3, might just be the model I had but at 6400 it had a purple haze which I didn’t like at all.

            Another disappointment I had which I didn’t expect at all after wanting a pro body for years was the vertical grip on the D3 that didn’t feel comfortable at all compared to the vertical grip on my D600 or D300s, the grip around the fingers didn’t feel deep enough to feel secure enough especially with a large lens on, again my personal preference. I wouldn’t mind getting a D800 now that I have a sufficiently powerful computer for processing and storage in place ^^

            I do think the next flagship will be a D4x and not a D4s as the ISO performance is already mind blowing but they ideally need a 40mp+ sensor.

            • rt-photography

              well of course the IQ should be better on our D600. its a newer sensor than my D3.
              never saw the purple haze but the most I shot was at 5000. its new and so I need to know how it behaves. mostly was shooting at 4000 though.

              weird you like the battery grip add on vs the built in D3 grip. I think the one piece pro bodies just feel so much better.

              dont know what the next camera will be and dont care since I cant afford it haha.

      • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

        Need vs. cost vs. size.

        • AM

          I didn’t know of anybody who really NEEDED a Df.

          • Andrew

            The incredibly high ISO performance of the Df at half the cost of a D4 can fulfill a need… it’s called financial!

            • AM

              I don’t know what kind of photography you do, but the people I know who really need “the incredibly high ISO performance” you’re talking about, need the D4, not the Df.
              Fulfilling just a need by compromising on anything else is not the smartest of the moves… It’s called financial!

            • Sashimi

              Df ? are we still talking about this hipster rich kid targeted plastic rip-off ? Seriously ?

            • disqus_QlHYblaSnt

              Bought the D4 solely for its low light ability. its “Horses for Courses” The 11FPS have never been used, I’m in mirror-up mode most of the time have never used the video.
              The D800 is closer to the 6 year old D700 in its ISO capabilities. Thats no good for nature. Bought mine from Map Camera Tokyo 2 years ago.
              It depends what you use it for, if shot studio or wedding the D800 would great and half the price.

          • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

            @AM

            It fills a need for me: a lightweight FX performer with great low-light images and smaller file sizes.

            • AM

              Need or want? Sounds more like a want.
              With all honesty, before the Df was even announced, how many times were you confined in your house because you didn’t have a Df-like camera to shoot with?
              Sure, now the Df brings you the convenience of an excellent sensor in a lighter body. The question is, did you buy it because you needed it or you wanted it?

            • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

              I’m USING it for what I decided long ago was missing so, define it how you like.

              It replaced a mirrorless in my bag for my lightweight NEED.

            • AM

              Do you NEED to reply to all my comments or do you WANT?
              By the way, I don’t NEED to comment, but I WANT. Even more accurate, I FEEL LIKE IT.
              When you start noticing the difference, then you will realize that you fulfilled a want rather than a need. IMHO.

            • MA

              There’s no such thing as a “need”. Only “want”.

              Does anyone really need to live?

            • whine

              sounds like a mistress…

            • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

              I can afford a D4, but I don’t NEED it, nor does it fit my NEED.

            • Dpablo unfiltered

              I need to want somebody to please quit splitting crosshairs over semantics. Thank you in advance.

            • orpickaname

              Did you post that comment because you needed to or because you wanted to? That’s the question.

            • Micky

              Do you know “marketing 101″? People have different taste. Market has many segments. If you dislike it, it means that Df is not made for you. But there are lots of people buying it, espectially in Asian market. In Japan, for example, Df has been ranked as 1st best selling digital camera for the whole segment.

              You are not center of the universe.

            • Micky

              Do you know “marketing 101″? People have different taste. Market has many segments. If you dislike it, it means that Df is not made for you. But there are lots of people buying it, espectially in Asian market. In Japan, for example, Df has been ranked as 1st best selling digital camera for the whole segment.

              You are not center of the universe.

          • Etahn

            Lol….It’s time to come out and see the world.

      • Marcel Speta

        i have both D700 (same as D3) and D3s and have to say that D3s is about 1,5EV better in ISO. Pictures at ISO 10.000 are still usefull! Regarding D3/D700 i think the maximum is ISO 8000 maybe even less.
        D4 is an outstanding camera (i’ve been shooting several events with it), but overpriced. There is good potential that next year it will be available on used market at decent price as well. I had luck and purchased beginning 2013 new (still under warranty) D3s for a half of initial price….

    • Aldo

      After spending 4500 on a canon top of the line years back…which I ended up selling for 1300. I told myself I was never gonna spend that kind of money on a single camera.

      • silmasan

        Right now I can’t think of a better value combo than a D800(/E) and a D700 + MB-D12 for both high MP and high speed use. Single card slot in the D700 has never bothered me so far. Would be great to be able to use same batteries though.

        • economical

          Amen. I sold D700 to buy D800. Both are great cameras and flawlessly delivered several weddings. D800 also delivers smashing fashion images for fashion – for local magazines.

          D4s or x will be nice, but 6K is too much for my budget. Boys with big budget projects, or company sponsored (news papers) or rich … can enjoy that.

    • Anto de Chav

      No harm in window shopping..

  • BollaNiko

    Bring it on, so in can get a sligtly used D4

    • Aldo

      3700 used would be awesome!

  • WORLD FREE PRESS LTD

    The D4X is coming… (hoping). The D4 with the sensor from the D800/E series :<

    • O.

      If it’s the D4x there will be a different sensor in it. Nobody would buy a 6000 € D4x, when a D800 has the same sensor for a third of the price. Even the sealing and build quality of the D800 is top-notch. So, I expect 45 MP+ with a new X body or a D4s with another stop of increased dynamic range and sensitivity.

      • bratvlad

        if any pro body coming out it would be D4s! if the rumor is true that D4 is discontinued in some places and D4x would be to slow for sports and wild life shooters

      • El Aura

        Yup, but everybody wants Nikon to do the reverse, offer the D4 sensor in a D800 body.

        (Ok, the D4 could have a clear fps advantage, which would not be as valuable in a D4x.)

  • HibikiRush

    Improvements I want in a D4S:

    Improved AWB from the D610/Df (LESS GREEN)
    Improved JPEG NR
    OLED viewfinder display from D7100
    AF improvements: more AF points, more cross-type (not all in center), -3 EV center pt AF
    Improved quiet mode noise dampening
    Move location of the LiveView button and separate Movie/Still LV dial/change it (too much accidental switching)
    Two XQD slots…maybe. Not sure about this one.
    Improved raw in-camera processing in regards to exposure (especially reduction)
    Fix rubber peeling problem/new dials to prevent frequent wear & tear
    USB 3.0

    I don’t care about higher MP as much. I wouldn’t mind them matching the 1D X but I doubt that will happen. Higher framerate isn’t something I need (personally) either. 10 is sometimes too fast for me.

  • Tom

    I’m a Nikon user for life, don’t get me wrong, but lately Nikon are so full of s#!t. Making the cameras incompatible with the third party lenses ? How cheap and low is that ?
    And what more you can want in a camera that D4 doesn’t have ? The fool who thinks that with a D4s/x will make a better pictures is the Nikon’s favorite guy. But when you think about it … it’s so stupid. I know people with D40/D80 who still make images that most of the D800/D4 users cannot!!! Start learning photography and stop racing the equipment companies!!!!
    Merry Christmas to you all :)

    • O.

      The one digit Nikon cameras are build for professional use and people who want to rely on these cameras. It’s obvious that the professional line from Nikon is not your grandpa’s compact camera, but for people, which know what they are doing. So, stop whining.

    • koenshaku

      Flash updates are to improve manufacturer products if 3rd parties are behind this is no doubt a shame and should be taken up with the 3rd party vendors. I am not justifying it I am just saying it happens and canon did the same thing at the same time no less.

    • Mansgame

      Nikon is just a company, and a rude one at that. You can’t say “I’ll be a customer for life” because that’s what has led them to bring us here with their latest batch of manufacturing flops like the D600, and the early D800’s to a lesser extent.

      • Dpablo unfiltered

        Um… Don’t you own the D600? Isn’t it so much better than the D3x which is, in your words, an overpriced paper weight? Yeah I know who is a rude one…

  • DubaiPhotoClub

    Yes its launching on 17 January 2014 in Dubai. Either a D4X or a D400. Look at this post http://dubaiphotoclub.com/post/71131102675/nikon-launching-d400-or-d4x-on-17-january-2014-in-dubai

    • http://www.povazanphotography.com/ Jozef Povazan

      How come Dubai photo club has only one post on a blog and nothing else? Would love to see more :)

      • DubaiPhotoClub

        Hi Jozef,
        We are running a facebook page and twitter account since long but never launched the blog. Sometime back, we even got the domain name. Our plan was to launch it properly on 1st January 2014 but the news was such that we launched this blog immediately today. Facebook page or twitter post couldn’t cover this much detail… So rest assured, you are going to see some great stuff very soon.

  • photoroto

    24mp. ISO 6400 smooth as a baby’s butt. Humongous dynamic range. And a microprism focusing screen, or a small, zoomed-in liveview overlay with histogram superimposed on the optical viewfinder image. And not too big but not tiny, either. And tough as nails. Would be willing to pay some serious money for that.

    • ShaoLynx

      Huge DR and viewfinder with hystogram overlay are on the top of my list, too. Add built-in GPS and I won’t even wait for DXOsensormarkings to come out with a verdict before getting one….
      (Oh boy, here come the critics)

    • eggNog

      D4 @ $2999
      D4s @ $3999

      I am dream (ing)

      • Steven Solidarios

        ….100% Plastic body.

    • Mansgame

      D610 sensor!

  • http://www.povazanphotography.com/ Jozef Povazan

    Sochi Olympic games are coming so this looks like D4s not D4x to me :)

    • http://www.mikekobal.com/blog mike kobal

      D4ss
      for snow&ski

      • AM

        Are we supposed to laugh?

        • http://www.mikekobal.com/blog mike kobal

          ah, what, uhmmmm?? I will answer that when I am sober,what are you drinking again? cuz I am gonna stay away from that

          • AM

            Eggnog.

        • Mansgame

          I thought it was good…

      • Aldo

        A for effort.

      • goose

        D4xs

        for Xtreme Sports

    • MyrddinWilt

      Right conclusion, wrong argument.

      Nikon’s long term product map is not going to be determined by the Olympics schedule. They will launch a higher performance version of the D4 or a higher resolution ‘x’ model in response to demand and their engineering capabilities.

      The reason it is obviously a D4s rather than a D4x is that the launch of a higher resolution model would be in addition to the D4 to fill a different market need. Withdrawing the D4 can only mean a new model to replace it which means a D4s.

      I predicted this would happen when the Df launched. The Df and the D4s will have the same sensor. The ones that perform best will go in D4s models and the rest will go in the Df models. The variation in performance between sensors is probably just enough for Nikon to claim an ISO 25600 rating for the D4s sensors.

      Supply will depend on how many Df models sell. Given that Nikon can sell out limited editions of 10K units in Japan alone, I suspect they have sold more than enough to launch a D4s.

      The number of photographers accredited to the Olympics is some thousands. Nikon will certainly be able to supply their NPS members.

      • Al Mumin

        i think they can join this two models so the upcoming camera will be both high-speed and high resolution (not too high though). like canon did with 1dx.
        so there will be no competition between d4x and highres d800.

        • MyrddinWilt

          If there was going to be a 36MP D4x we would have seen it by now. I don’t think that is what they are going for.

          48MP would put Nikon right up with PhaseOne and Hasselblad in terms of resolution. The medium format cameras do offer up to 80MP but the maximum demanded by the glossy magazines is about 50MP, equivalent to medium format film.

          Nikon could easily sell a 48MP body for $10K. The medium format cameras are very bulky and the sensor performance limits their use to the studio. The technology used to make the medium format sensors is three to four generations out of date. They are barely better than film for noise response.

          Simply rehashing the D800 sensor in a flagship body would not cut it. 48MP or 60MP on the other hand would be a game changer.

          • Ape Hater

            What they need is a 100MP, no wait, 200MP, or maybe 500MP? Yeah that would do it. Total game-changer bro.

            • orpickaname

              Go gigapixel or go home.

            • Thom Hogan

              You’re actually not far from the truth ;~). As we go upwards in pixel count, you need far larger numbers to make for substantive resolution increases. Remember, you probably need at least 20% more linear resolution to create a visual difference that people can see. So if your current “high resolution” camera has 7000 pixels across the long axis, you’re going to need 8400 to show a difference. 7000 x 4666 pixels = 32mp, while 8400 x 5600 pixels = 47mp. So going from a D800 to something “better” is barely achieved with 54mp.

              To get those stunning increases we remember from the 3, 6, 12mp ramp, the camera companies are going to need to go far, far, higher in pixel count, or change to a non-Bayer type of capture.

            • G

              So at the Sochi Olympic Games, there will be a pixel race? :D

            • MyrddinWilt

              Absolutely, which is why reaching medium format is such an important milestone. From 50MP to the 80MP of the Phase One is only just 25% more.

              Neither Nikon nor Canon are going to let the other have Medium Format territory to themselves for very long.

              Above 50MP it isn’t going to matter very much. 8400×5600 at 450dpi (generous retinal) is 18×12 which is a double page spread in a glossy magazine. A D800 is arguably good enough but a 50MP sensor puts it beyond question.

              There are some photographers out there who do sell prints in large sizes that could make use of even more pixels, but not very many.

          • Maji

            The rumor mill has it that Nikon is working on a 54MPix (which is equiv. to 24MPix on APSC and that is already there) sensor based camera. I think it maybe the D4X. I hope Nikon comes up with a D800h (24MPix but high speed) and a D400. It would make most serious photographers using Nikon very happy.

      • Dan Howell

        for many of the reasons you mention I would predict a D4X rather than a D4S, but that’s coming from a studio/location photographer rather than a sports photographer.

      • Thom Hogan

        Nikon’s pro camera development schedule has been linked to the Olympic schedule for as long as I can remember (and I’ve verified this with Nikon executives).

        In film, it was 8 year boundaries (every other Summer Olympics), in digital is has been 4 year boundaries (every Olympics). The actual target has been to have a new pro generation available one year prior to the Olympics. This gives them time to not only miss their schedule a bit (as they did with the D4), but also for pros to acquire and get used to the camera prior to needing to use it.

        Yes, there are only thousands of accredited photographers at the Olympics, but what other venue or event do you know of where the majority of working professional PJ photographers from virtually every country are present? Oh, and that your main competitor is also targeting?

        There are other “sub”-targets that the two big companies work towards, as well, one being the Soccer World Cup, which has similar properties to the Summer Olympics (lots of PJs from many countries).

        To a large degree, the top pro camera from both Canon and Nikon is considered a halo product. If you can get pros who are doing tough work speaking about your latest favorably, that word-of-mouth helps the prosumer and even consumer products sell. Heck, we’ve got tons of people posting about how many white or black lenses they see at events these days, and thinking that ratio means something useful ;~).

        • yayawho

          fifa world cup … btw

          • yayawho

            aaah, sorryhas been mentioned …

  • Chapulin, CO

    Breaking news: 0.5 more fps, continuous quiet mode, and improved auto WB. It’s called the D4.10.

    • Aldo

      It seems that all they need to do is stuff the d7100 sensor with a bigger buffer in the d300s and they would sell like hot cakes… Oh and you can even do the “pure photography” bs and leave video out and they would still sell like hot cakes.

  • saywhatuwill

    I predict that the new D4, if one comes out, will definitely usher in 4k video for all the Nikon product line. The sensor will probably be the same but improved over the Df.

    • koenshaku

      Technically it should but Nikon is usually a little behind in the video department, so I don’t see 4k video happening just yet if the D5300 is anything to go by using the Expeed 4 processor.

      • ShaoLynx

        Hey, why not slap in two expeed 4 for moving the images at lightning speed, and a separate expeed 3 just for the metering. It’s been done before you know. And the users speak heaven of the resulting camera. Hell, even Scott Kelby switched brands and ThatNikonGuy changed his call sign because of this…

    • KnightPhoto

      That would be enough to call it a D5. Not sure if Nikon is at the D4S stage or the D5 stage already?

      Plus it’s more important they deliver a 54mp D4X in the lineup with serious LiveView improvements for ultra-fine zoomed focus capability.

    • KnightPhoto

      How about a D4S with the same sensor but EXPEED4 and two XQD slots and seriously improved 1080P video with high bit rates, colour, sharpness etc. – that would be really useful. And maybe 4K video if they can do it using EXPEED4, it would be a selling point but the truly useful video will still be 1080P as good as they can make it.

  • Jon Ingram

    Sweet

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/kgnixer niXerKG

    I am guessing it will be the D4S since this is a release for the Olympics.

    24MP seems to be Nikon’s new 12MP so I’m guessing the specs are:

    – 24MP
    – ISO: 100-20,560 or at least the same as now (100-12,800) but at 24MP.
    – Same FPS – How can they really improve this?
    – DUAL XQD – No more mix and match
    – Flip-down AI tab like Df
    – Expeed 4 for crunching shots & low power requirements
    – USB 3.0
    – True quiet mode – Seriously Mirror Up, Mirror Delay and Quiet mode are the same damn thing.
    – More cross point sensors across the frame would be nice, can’t imagine getting more than 51 pts, would be odd.
    – Be neat if they had a slightly bigger viewfinder magnification
    – Hopefully price is under $6K of the D4 on launch, I’d buy it at under $5K.

    • turner777777

      Exactly the same controls for portrait and landscape would be fantastic

    • johnlsl

      I don’t need the MP to go up but i will need the ISO, DR to go way up, and heat of the sensor to go way down

      and i agree, just please take away the CF card one and for all, its a pain on the D4

    • Dpablo unfiltered

      I would be really really surprised if it had a new sensor. Really.
      Here’s hoping…

  • Smudger

    If what would presumably be a D4s is as big a jump from the D4, as the D3s was from the D3, I might just relent and dust off my CC.

  • Rod Serling

    All this nonesuch about the Olympics…..Someone please explain how a camera announced in late January will be on the shelves 2 weeks later for use in Olympics? Is the DF a time machine that can snap a photo & transport the new camera back in time to store shelves in February?

    • Plug

      A small number of selected pro sports shooters probably have them in their hands now.

    • Andrew

      This camera is already in production with the manufacturing of the Nikon Df camera temporarily suspended. The camera does not necessarily have to be announced in late January. It can be announced and shipped prior to the show and still be showcased at the show. So anything is possible.

    • catinhat

      Don’t forget the Soccer World Cup, it is at least as big as the Olympics and probably bigger, especially the Winter ones.

    • Mike

      It won’t be. Every new camera made will be given priority status to NPS members. And even within NPS they will be given priority to sports shooters. And among sports shooters, priority to Olympic shooters. And considering Olympic shooters might be sporting 4+ pro bodies… That makes up a lot of the camera’s first production run. So, us plebeians might see it in April.

    • Mike

      It won’t be. Every new camera made will be given priority status to NPS members. And even within NPS they will be given priority to sports shooters. And among sports shooters, priority to Olympic shooters. And considering Olympic shooters might be sporting 4+ pro bodies… That makes up a lot of the camera’s first production run. So, us plebeians might see it in April.

    • Mansgame

      Nikon takes care of their pros for big sporting events like that. It’s the average guy that they screw over without a second thought.

  • robertkrasser

    D4 is the most perfect camera in the world. I would improove just 3 things.
    – build in GPS
    – build in wifi
    – 1 stop ISO = 409.600 ( with same quality than now 204.800)

    • AM

      Most perfect????
      Something’s either perfect or not. The D4 isn’t by the way.

    • Daniel

      built in GPS = NSA camera ;)

    • http://the.me/ DanTHEME

      One just wonders why it has to be so monstrous.

    • johnlsl

      I agree on the build in GPS and Wifi is a good one

      But on the ISO and DR, i really need it to do a lot better, as currently on extreme conduction, i am still hitting a brick wall badly with my D4.

      For example

      Shot from a plane a night
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnlsl/11390710305/

      Shot from a travel bus on the Highway at night at over 100 km/h
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnlsl/11224954423/

      And also they can do something on the Hot pixel issue on the camera too

  • LarryC

    Ah the good ‘ole days when camera bodies didn’t become “old technology” in just 2 years.

  • Rafa R

    the only flag ship model that still kicks ass is the Nikon D3x, great resolution and advanced body design, I still use mine for studio no problem. Unlike my D4 that I just bought, I have a sense is going to feel old very soon.

    • jagblirsatrottpadethar

      Srsly? I always thought the D3x aged ahead of any other Pro house, overpriced and (pretty soon) undersensored.

      • ShaoLynx

        D3X was retired by the D800. Period.

        • Dan Howell

          You’ve obviously not used both extensively. D800 seems fragile in comparison to the D3X.

          • Rafa R

            agree

        • Rafa R

          I have a D800, and the shutter sounds like an old japanese car when closing the door, unlike my D3x which after its 380,000 actuation still sounds like a new Mercedes Benz, and not to mention Autofocus, fast precise and accurate, unlike the extremely slow and low light un capable AF in the D800 (I have a D3x, D800 and D4.. so I know for a fact)

          • El Aura

            In my own experience owning the two cameras, the D800 AF does better in low light than the D3 AF. less hunting and a bit snappier.

            • Guest

              Certainly not

      • Rafa R

        well the D3x still has more MP than any Canon ever built and is sharp as it can be, and I just passed my 380,000 actuation with no flaws what so ever.. love my D3x

    • Mansgame

      lol even my D600, with its oil and dust takes better pictures than your D3x. More dynamic range, better high ISO, and it’s got video too. You’re just sad because you spent $7000 on a camera that had the most megapickles and they came out with the D800.

      • Dan Howell

        At 300,000+ actuations, my D3X has been a relative bargain for the price. I’ve been making money with it the whole time. It allowed me to transition back from MFDB to DSLR for magazine and advertising work. I’m not sad at the purchase at all. I don’t see your D600 standing up to the rugged use I’ve put my D3X thru. Call me when you get to 250,000 and we’ll talk.

        • Mansgame

          Yes, and at 150,000, the D3x dropped from $7000 to about $2200 once the D800 was announced. Now the D800 is not as rugged as the D3x, but do you use your D3x to hammer nails? It’s a studio camera so how much beating can it take?

          For $2100, my D600 can do everything yours can do and then some. It’s rated for 150,000 shutter clicks. By the time any of us gets to 150,000 clicks, there will be at least another generation out and I’ll always have the most up to date sensor.

          • Guest

            Nikon D3x still sell used at about 4 grand, check B&H

            • Mansgame

              And amazon still sells the D50 for $2000. It’s a discontinued product and it’s a free country so anybody an ask what they want for it. Doesn’t mean people are buying it.

            • Guest X

              Dude, it’s alright. You can keep your D600 and still be proud of what you’ve got.

      • Rafa R

        I agree the D600 is a great camera, but you just cant compare its AF capabilities, shutter built, and weather sealing against a D3x, I paid 8k when it came out because Nikon only had 12 MP cameras around and I had to compete with photographers using Canons 21 MP cameras in my field so I made the investment and after 380,000 actuations and still going, I assure you that camera has paid its self 4 or 5 times over. I dont regret a thing of it.

        BTW lets go out shoot together when your buffer quits I´ll still be shooting, happy trigger like ;)

        • mikeswitz

          I don’t understand why, when someone here says they are happy with the camera(s) they have, someone else has to say “LOL, don’t you know that your camera is not as godd as my camera”. If your camera has paid for itself many times over and the clients are happy who gives a shit about the other guys camera.

          • Guest

            Well this is a Nikon Camera Forum, duh

          • Mansgame

            Because what he was saying was rubbish. In a world of D600, D610, and D800, D800s, the D3x is an overpriced paperweight.

            • Guest

              In which world do you live? D3x cameras are discontinued!

          • September

            Because one is a pro, that’s just taking good photos and the other is a guy who tries to be better photographer by owning a super new camera. The difference in IQ in real life is so small, that it has almost no influence on the photos, but the difference in handling, AF etc. is huge. If someone writes something like that it means that he ocasionally uses his camera. If he would work with it he would appreciate everything that Dx body gives him. Instead he just wants to be a guy with brand new camera with the newest sensor. Ho gives a sh..t about photos, the specs are most importand. +10 to respect among friends

            • Aldo

              “diffrence in IQ in real life is so small…” What happened to “critical shots? critical quality” =]

            • September

              If you know how to use your camera you can take good photos without 0,5 EV DR and 0,6 f-stop high ISO advantage. Maybe you can’t shoot with a camera that much “crippled”, but for me it’s just a little difference. I use D3s with less DR compared to both D600 and D3x and I manage to take photos somehow. And I won’t trade all the advanteges that a pro body gives me for an enthusiast D600 even if it has better IQ. When I bought D3s i could afford D800 or D600 but I choose an older body just as I did when I bought D300s instead D7000. A pro body is not just the IQ. Maybe someday you understand.

            • Aldo

              You were being shown as another user… so my reply wasn’t for you per say. However I respect your answer. It seems no camera is perfect and one has to choose what to sacrifice… I “downgraded” from a d800 to the d600 and let me tell you, once you work around its shortcomings it becomes a pro camera. However if I owned a d3x or even maybe d3s, I doubt I would sell it to buy the d600. I come from a full pro canon body so I know some of the advantages you mentioned.

            • September

              So you know what I’ve been trying to say all this time (english is not my national language so i just try to do my best:)

            • Aldo

              Yes I get you. And your English is pretty awesome. Hard to tell it isn’t your native language. =]

            • Mansgame

              Your competitor is also just as good as you and has a camera with better dynamic range. He still wins.

            • September

              I’m curious how do you know who is good and who isn’t.

        • Mansgame

          Buffer? AF? Do you use your D3x as a sports camera? Your D3x has a max usable ISO of about 1600!

          • Guest

            By the time these guys bought their D3x’s you were probably 10 so who cares. D3x is a great camera as all D3 series cameras

            • Mansgame

              The D3 and D3s were great cameras. D3x was just for pretenders who didn’t have medium format and thought they would spend a little less to have enough megapixels. Now even the D3200 has 24 MP.

            • September

              Thank you great oracle for the undisputed truth. Now everyone knows that they shouldn’t buy D3x’s.
              Buy the time D3s was out D5000, D90, D300/s, D700, even a lot of coolpix cameras had 12 MP and still people bought it. I know D3x was a lot overpriced for a D3 with different sensor, but still the sensor was great. It was far better from everything that nikon had back then in DR, color sensitivity. Almost 2 EVs DR over D3s, not just 0,5 like D600 over D3x. If you downsampled the image it had great ISO 1600 compared even to D3 (3200 wasn’t to bad either). In DX crop mode it was almost as good as D300, and it had ISO 100. It was overpriced but it wasn’t bad at all. You sound like you try to feel better now because you couldn’t afford it back then.

              I would like to own both D3s that I have and D3x, that I don’t. It would be fine combo. But I had to decide and I bought something I needed the most.

            • Rafa R

              great post.

      • MyrddinWilt

        These dick size measuring contests are a bore.

        Like every Nikon, second hand D3x bodies are ridiculously expensive compared to newer models that offer better performance for less money. That is really good for folk selling their gear, not so good for buyers.

        For a wedding photographer it is actually quite important to turn up with professional gear. A client who owns a D600 himself might think someone who turns up with a D600 to be a poor deal. But nobody is going to consider a D3x to be substandard even if it is not a current model.

        So flagship bodies have traditionally held their price much better than they should.

        We are still talking about toys that are fairly inexpensive compared to a new car or a new roof.

  • Scott M

    Was thinking about a D4 but now I will wait until this comes out. Hope it is same fps and 24mp! Plus great AF.

  • Steven Solidarios

    Perfect timing! Im going to be in the market for a sports camera. Just don’t make it 36MP Nikon! Even 24MP is a slight pain to be working with right now.

    • Aldo

      alright… lets halt technological evolution to accommodate your old computer… -.-

      • Steven Solidarios

        My MBP is the 2.7 i7 from this year. Storage is the issue. Im taking on average about 2000 shots a week. Plus if you have ever used a D800E, you will soon realize how all the lenses you own are not so great.

        • Aldo

          I shot more than a year with the d800. When you say “all glass isn’t great with it” I guess you are referring to sharpness. Thing is the sensor out resolves most of the glass out there. But just because a picture doesn’t look crisp sharp when you zoom it in at say 100 percent, it doesn’t mean the lens is bad. You will hardly ever need that much sharpness out of a file. And hard drives are cheap. You can get 4tb for 150 bucks right now.

          • Steven Solidarios

            Im talking about having a smooth work flow. MP isn’t everything. Color rendition and dynamic range is more important to me. Being able to shoot in limited light and having the camera lock focus is essential. If you have used the D800, then you know its not a sports camera. Hitting the buffer limit is not that hard. Plus it doesn’t help that writing to the card is not the fastest. I’d rather use my D600 for portraits, and get a D3s or new replacement for sports. What I mean by not so great is not that the end is bad. Its that the D800 is has so much resolution, it brings out the flaws in most lenses today. Consumer lenses, and even some enthusiast lenses don’t belong on this camera. Pro stuff only. I know how much hard drives cost. And I know they don’t last forever. I’d rather save money and not have to buy so many hard drives. I already have over 24TB in a synology nas box and will have to upgrade again this next year.

            • Aldo

              Color rendition shouldn’t be affected by the amount of megapixels… and dynamic range comes from the sensor not from the lens. Maybe you mean contrast? If you gave actual examples of which lenses you are talking about, perhaps I could illustrate better. As far as the auto focus lock… the D800 has an amazing focusing system. If you are having issues there, you need to get to know those points and research what mode suits your needs. As far as the buffer, no doubt the d800 isn’t a sports camera and it isn’t spray n pray friendly. No lens is perfect. As a professional you need to be aware of the imperfections. It’s better to see them than to NOT see them imo… because you can correct as needed. If you know hard drives are cheap, why complain about storage? Sorry but it seems to me that the camera you want already exists, it’s called the d700 or d3, d3s as you mentioned…. You have no business buying new cameras save your money.

            • Steven Solidarios

              I don’t think you understand what I mean. D800 is too slow for what I do. I know lenses are never perfect and that they vary from lens to lens. Im getting back into primes as the zooms get the job done, but primes get the IQ my clients love. Im holding out or a D4s/D5 because I’m expecting the focus system to be even better. Why get a older camera for $4-6K when I can get a new one as soon as its announced in 2014 for about the same price? I shoot amateur/professional boxing and need accuracy as well as great image quality at high iso. Some gyms are just too poorly lit. I have a D600 that works phenominally with the right glass and I will use it till its end. I also had a D800E that I sold because of the lack of speed that I currently need. Hard drives are not really cheap when you put them in a redundent raid box. Neither is the power to run them. At this point, this next year I’ll get a sports camera of some sort as well as some studio strobes. Im already $17K invested in equipment. Im ready to get another $10K worth of whatever I need.

            • Ape Hater

              Don’t bother arguing with these idiots. They spend all day on the rumors forums telling everyone what to do and what to buy.They think that they know everything about everything, but really they’re just a bunch of losers that wish they were real photographers. Since they can’t take pictures they just memorize specs and rattle them off at will.

            • Steven Solidarios

              Im starting to realize this now. 2014 is going to be an exciting time for me and I can’t wait to get more pro gear.

            • Aldo

              If you are referring to me, I assure you I’m a photographer and most of what I know about photography I have learned from experience over the years, since I initially started learning on my own. Now do you wanna see how big my penis is? Or would you care to join the discussion with a congruent/valid argument?

            • Ape Hater

              Maybe you know what YOU need to know about what YOU do. But here you are shooting your stupid mouth off about what other people “need” or “should” do.

              I don’t need to see your little pecker to know that you don’t know what’s best for every other photographer on the internet.

            • Aldo

              Gotta love the big talk behind the keyboard =] “photographer on the internet” <— and this is what you call a Freudian slip my friend.

            • Ape Hater

              Yep. And you my friend are the king of keyboard photography.

            • Aldo

              I mean how can I understand what you mean when you keep changing your story. You want a “smooth workflow” yet you have a near top of the line processor. You know hard drives are cheap, yet you complain about storage (now you are saying they aren’t cheap) YES they are in comparison to the cost of other photography equipment including the computer itself. Ok so now power is expensive? Have you heard of green hard drives? And if it hurts you that much to pay your electric bill just go back to film. You have issues locking focus on your target, and now it is just too slow for you? 4-6k on a used d3, d3s? Where do you live? prices aren’t even near that. Now it is about low light? the gains on the d600 over the d700 are 1/2- 3/4 stops tops… D3s is even better. It seems to me you you just want a new toy tbh spec’d to your own desire, but illogical. I welcome your comments but please get your story straight.

            • Steven Solidarios

              Have you ever loaded 7000 24MP images into lightroom? Have you ever did a batch edit on the majority of them? Have you ever exported them in color, B&W, and maybe a creative color edit? I provide my images online to my clients for 1 year. Im currently producing over 1K images a week. Do the math. Space costs money. Bandwidth costs money. Im in the business of making money. I like buying quality products, but not every week. Green hard drives have a reputation for failing. Have you heard of enterprise has drives? Thats what I bank my clients images on. Not some cheap $99 drive. I invest in something reliable. Price of a D3s? http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Digital-Camera-3-0-Inch-Capability/dp/B002SQKVD0. It seems as though me getting a sports camera with capability is bothering you. Maybe you should give advice to someone else. Thanks though.

            • Aldo

              “…loaded 7k images” – Yes… “batch edit” – yes “creative exports” – Yes (though most of the exports I do are basic: color correction, contrast, exposure, curves as needed, noise reduction, lens correction, camera profiles). I don’t provide images online for my customers for 1 year. I burn cd’s to give them and post them online while they choose their prints. You have a redundant hard drive array yet you choose to buy expensive hard drives. Why the redundancy then? The link for the price of the d3s you linked sits at 3300 you said 4-6k. No it doesn’t bother me you want a new sports camera. I simply pointed out that there is no point on going backwards because the technology you want it’s already available. And if you do nice things for your customers I applaud that, but don’t cry about the resources necessary to do so.

            • Steven Solidarios

              ok.

          • Ape Hater

            You mad bro? Haha. What are you 12? You still don’t know jack d-bag. You don’t get an email telling you exactly where your position is at for every sporting event.

            You sad because you know you’ll never be anything but a sorry sack o’ crap hanging around forums doling out useless advice based on your non-existent experience.

            And you keep flagging my posts to get them taken down because you know I’m right. That’s right Aldo-uche, I’m trolling your sorry a$$.

            • Aldo

              Lol I’m not flagging your posts. Admin must have this thing set to automatically remove garbage. Excuses are for losers and you are full of them… But you are excused to fail sir knock yourself out.

        • ronin

          This is one of those internet urban legend memes.

          Somehow all your old lenses are trash and you dare not use them on your new very very expensive camera. They will make your pictures look very very bad. Instead, you must buy all new very very expensive lenses. And then Nikon will love you very very much.

          • Marc W.

            When sensors out resolve the lenses, then, yes, it’s an issue.

            • Ape Hater

              Even Nikon’s top of the line DX lens the 17-55mm f/2.8G is turned into a mushy mess by the the D7100’s 24MP non-AA sensor.

              They seriously need to revise their standard pro zooms. The 17-55 and 24-70 just aren’t good enough for critical work.

              If you have to downsize your images to make them look sharp they why the F do you need 36MP? Here’s a hint. You don’t,

            • Aldo

              24-70 2.8 is phenomenal… you clearly don’t know what you are talking about because if your work was SOOOOO critical you would use these things call primes.

            • Ape Hater

              Sometimes for critically sharp action shots where you’re limited in movement primes won’t do retard. Why do you insist on pretending that you know what everyone needs. You’re an internet photographer, incapable of actually TAKING photos you tell everyone else how to take theirs. Screw off moron.

            • Aldo

              I forgot to mention that these primes lenses also come in different focal lengths… and that the human body is capable of carrying more than one camera. Oh and these cameras also have thing call DX/crop mode… which makes a prime more versatile on the spot. But since you are so intelligent you may continue to shoot your “critical” shots using zoom lenses and cry about it like a little b… boy.

            • Ape Hater

              Shut the F up you tool. Obviously you’ve never actually shot a really fast moving professional sporting event where you get put in one spot, but you need to get a variety of images from ultra-wide to tele.
              You think real photographers want to have four camera bodies hanging from them when they’re jammed a$$hole to elbow with 20 other working photographers?

              See you’re just an internet photographer. You don’t know jack about real shooting. Go back to your little kid soccer games and model mayhem portraits knucklehead.

            • Aldo

              you mad bro?

            • Aldo

              Only relative to what the purpose of your photographs are… eg. staring at millions of pixels zoomed in is pointless if you will end up only printing some 8×10’s

  • sell_him

    https://www.facebook.com/NikonMEA/posts/742729722421234

    New camera set for launch in 3 weeks.

    • Mike

      Could be the D3300. Let’s not get too excited. Unless the D3300 excites you. :-)

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I already posted that online.

  • Tankerman

    The D4 replacement, and it is a replacement not an upgrade, will be called the D5. It will have a number of advancements, not just one or two.

    • PSAGuy

      Nope….not yet. It takes more time. Nikon is not ready to destroy the venerable D4 yet.

      • Dpablo unfiltered

        It does sound a little fast. But this is a new day. Who knows?

  • Nikoniak

    Definitely D4s when D4 is stopped by NPS. Maybe also a new DX announcement at the same time for Sochi.

  • Brian

    D4S – 21 MP, 14 FPS, 68 Focus Points.

    • KnightPhoto

      That would be a D5. Are we there yet?

  • jk

    I think it is the D4s , not the D4X.

    the winter Olympic is coming and they need a new camera for that.

    • for real

      except it’s not in time for the Olympics. why is your up vote count so low on disqus? oh yeah you are a lying troll.

      • jk

        people call others trolls are usually trolls themselves.
        if you go NPS , you will know it the D4s is coming and it is already the fact (it gets 18mp chip and 12f/s).

        • KnightPhoto

          If it gets a new sensor and 12fps, isn’t that enough of an uplift to call it a D5?

          Better video codec with EXPEED4 makes sense.

          How about ISO performance, any gain? That’s the one thing I consider paramount, but not sure if there is much more blood to be squeezed from that stone.

  • PSAGuy

    D4+ …I cannot wait. I’m spending what they are charging as long as ISO gets even better !!!

  • Kassim

    D4F.. retro looking sports camera.. hahahaha.

  • Dragondong

    bad news for D4 owners………D5 & D900 come early……tq

    • Neopulse

      Why bad news? The D4 still kicks ass, just like the D3s.

      • jk

        the D4 has the same old AF inherited from the D3s and it is slower than the AF in the 1DX.

        • orpickaname

          except in the dark.

        • Neopulse

          Hmmmm… slower, probably by microseconds and the 1Dx isn’t as good as the D4 in lower light (by a smidge also) and also the images look better on a D4 than the 1Dx. So, they are somewhat even in their own way.

    • jk

      D810 not D900.

  • jk

    it is the d4s , a NPS service guy today told me to wait if I need to get a D4 , he said he could lend me one but just better wait a month or so for the D4s.
    because of the d4s , Nikon cannot make as many Df as they need to for now, this means , I guess the D4s also share the same sensor or similar sensor used in the Df?
    I hope it is the rumored new 20mp sensor from Toshiba , but I guess it will be the same Aptina sensor in the D4.
    I am sure no D4X for now ,and we will never see the D400 or any real high end DX.
    now , you can get a FF for 123000yen or 1280US, so how any one can sell DX for 2k or near 2kUS?
    it’s just impossible, no D400, no D710,etc.

    • for real

      you post so much utter crap here. shut your mouth, you idiotic troll. all you do is lie.

    • qwerty

      yeah right. you are lying again.

      • jk

        you know nothing about it.

  • Quintus

    If it is a new flagship, where are teasers like Df?

  • Quintus

    I hope this new flagship will blow away A7r since currently A7r is much superior to any Nikon’s flagship model.

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      Except not. Like focusing, and lenses and …

    • jk

      The A7R is a good camera but it cannot replace the D800E(I wanted to replace my D800E with it), I still have both the D800E and the A7R.
      while their sensor may be the same or identical , their final image quality especially at high ISO setting is quite different , the A7R has some shadow banding and color shift issue.
      the A7R uses lossy about 12bit RAW compression , and the D800E uses 14bit lossless compression and that makes a bit of shadow tonal range difference.
      I mean the D800E file takes more complex RAW file manipulation in PS or similar than the A7R lossy only 12bit RAW(Sony says it is 14bit but it is not).
      the A7R is a good camera but it has a lot of issues such as harsh tonal shift , shutter vibration on a tripod, poor shadow quality at ISO 200 ,etc.

      there is almost no way to tether it properly , and it is painfully slow camera.

  • Neopulse

    Waiting for the new “Pure Photography” videos to air on YouTube I suppose.

  • jk

    the sensor would be a 18mp FX chip , not the same one as in the D4.
    and the D4s will do 12f/s, and it will get a bit improved video codec.
    announced in a few weeks , maybe after the CES or CP Plus or somehting like that.

    • Fgonz

      JK : Maybe H265 HEVC Codec? Support 4k video?

  • Canada D3

    In the 90’s I owned a new F90s. That body was a whopping 1500$ when I bought it new. Now I have seen it as low as 75$. For that reason I have been waiting for the launch of the d4s/x. I am trading my very very reliable D3 and getting a D4x/s. I figure that in two years the technology of the D3 is going to be worth just under 2k$. So I am getting all the available equity out of my D3 and buying the D4s/x.

  • Fgonz

    NR Admin: Maybe H265 HEVC Codec? Support 4k video?

  • Fiod

    Bullshit, no flagship model in 2014, im in NPS

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