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Nikon announcement on January 8, 2013 (CES show)

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Nikon has scheduled an official press release for January 8, 2013, which is the starting date of the 2013 CES show. In addition to the new Nikon 1 J3 and S1 mirrorless cameras, I believe Nikon will also announce the availability of two new 1 Nikkor lenses: 1 Nikkor 10-100mm f/4-5.6  and 1 Nikkor 6.7-13mm f/3.5-5.6. The development of those two lenses (together with the 1 Nikkor 32mm f/1.2) were announced back in October and Nikon is expected to start shipping them early next year. There is still no word on the new 800mm f/5.6 lens that was introduced back in July, 2012.

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  • Aldo

    yawn…

  • amir

    And as I told here before,the next generation of D-7000 will be released in Feb,2013!
    Also,D-400 will be in reality position in Aug,2013!

    (At least,I hope!)

    • Brian

      There is never going to be a D400. Would have been out long ago if they intended to do that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/richard.ting.739 Richard Ting

        Then would that successor of d7000 be pro grade?

        • Brian

          I think they are done with high end DX, entry level only.

        • MyrddinWilt

          It would have all the pro features.

          It might not come with the ‘professional photographer’ badge they give out to the D4 and D800 owners.

          The D300 body was always overkill for 95% of the people. Telling people who want the D700 or D300 body that they should buy the D800 seems completely reasonable to me. Especially if the price of the D800 drops to $2500.

          The fact is that Nikon already has a DX camera in a D800 body. It is called the D800. 17MP is more than sufficient resolution for almost every purpose and if it is not you can use FX lenses.

      • Myrddin

        The D700 was on the market without a refresh much longer than the D300s.

        I think the fact that the D600 is essentially an FX sensor in a D7000 type body shows us that the D300s replacement will be a 24MP or higher sensor in a D7000 type body and a D400 badge.

        Main reason for using DX over FX is to reduce size and weight and to get longer reach on the telephoto side. I can’t think of any pro application where the lighter weight would not be a bigger win than a marginal increase in robustness and it is certainly better for consumers.

        I want pro style sealing but I don’t mistreat my gear so I don’t need the extra weight of the all mag body.

        Badging the new model as D400 will allow Nikon to keep the D7000 on the shelves a while longer. Probably dropping the price a little.

        • zoetmb

          I disagree. There’s no point coming out with a D400 that’s in a D7000 body – the whole point of the D400 is that you get the better controls and body. I didn’t buy the D600 because I didn’t like the controls and body after spending years with the D200. I couldn’t wait anymore and wound up going with the D800. If the D400 doesn’t come out until August, as someone above has suggested, then I’m glad I didn’t wait, even though it cost far more.

    • Neopulse

      Well chances are yeah… because it’s projected the 7D MK II in March supposedly. So it would make sense making a big release such as the D300 successor in that time period.

  • NikoFanBoy

    Hi Admin,

    Thanks for the update. I am quite surprised why Nikon is delaying the release of 800mm. With all probability they should have released it in nov 2012. But again its nikon known for their unpredictability….;))

    Hope they make up their mind!

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      I think they are trying to push the Nikon 1 system.

      • Aldo

        No kidding…

      • bjrichus

        Shame. Boring….

      • Spy Black

        Someone at Nikon is really excited about this system I guess. If they would put a standard hot shoe on one of those new bodies they plan to introduce, then they would start to move towards a fairly useful small system.

      • Sahaja

        If Nikon can sell lots of Nikon 1 cameras and lenses then they can claim that they are selling more interchangeable lens camera systems and lenses than Canon.

      • Kon_head

        Nice! That means I don’t have to spend any money on Nikon!

      • Captain Megaton

        Well, can someone at least tell me how well it is selling? Anecdotal evidence points to Sony NEX owning mirrorless, hard.

      • MyrddinWilt

        I can’t imagine that there is any connection at all. Different product manager and different production facility.

        The only body for which that 800 makes sense is of course the Nikon 1 :)

    • Thom Hogan

      > delaying the release of the 800mm

      No, they’re not delaying the release. The big exotic glass takes almost a year to make from initial pour to final lens. You saw a prototype at the Olympics, and Nikon pre-announced because the prototype would have been outed at the Olympics. The real question is when they put it into production. My guess is that they wouldn’t have done that prior to getting feedback at the Olympics, thus they wouldn’t have gotten any further than pouring the initial glass and starting to cure it in mid-2012.
      Worst case: we see the 800mm in summer (or Nikon announces that they’re redesigning it). Best case: we see the 800mm in late winter/early spring.

      • NIkoFanBoy

        Thanks thom. I was under the inpressikn that it gone into production already with vr 3 design.So you reckon they can release b/w feb-July time frame. Some exciting time ahead..

      • MyrddinWilt

        It is also likely to be a pretty low volume lens. Advantage of having an 800 mm f/5.6 over a 400 f/2.8 is going to be fairly small. Price will definitely be $10K Availability will be limited to ordering ahead of a build window.

        So quite why people are freaking out about the non-availability of a lens they are never going to buy (unless they run a lens rental house)…

        I think a lot of the wittering that goes on here is just folk trying to brag about their gear. It is not even as if the stuff is particularly expensive in absolute terms.

  • John lives

    So what’s the difference between this 10-100mm and their current one? .5 of a F stop?

    • Bernard

      Smaller, lighter, and manual zoom… I guess…

    • preston

      New one is smaller and lighter but it has no power drive (for smooth zooming while recording movies) or VR. It will surely be much cheaper than the current one too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nofunben Ben Hipple

    No VR on the two nikon 1 lenses? 100mm could really use VR.

    • Bernard

      Since it’s primarily a video lens, the use of a tripod is a must and VR is not that important after all.

      • http://tech.t9i.in/ Tahir Hashmi

        You probably haven’t experienced how good the video stabilisation on some modern cameras is. Like @ad2d216a6b62d07f16964e9507867429:disqus said, those who need VR are the people who don’t know they need it.

        • Bernard

          You’re probably right ! :)

      • gujvjv

        Wow, Bernard, you are missing out on the latest VR/IS/OS whatever technologies. They are incredibly good for video… the new stabilized 24-70 is crazy.

        • Abraham Collins

          VR causes jumped frames when the element reaches the lens’ perimeter. It makes the footage useless.

    • preston

      The wide angle zoom will have VR (you can see the blurry ‘VR’ letters near the top right of the front element) but not the 10-100. If you need VR then your options are the previous 10-100 with power drive (for zooming during movies) or the 30-110. Nikon was called out on both The Camera Store and the DigitalRev video reviews that the sensor is much smaller than micro 4/3 but the lenses are the same size, so that is why they released a smaller standard zoom – the 11-27.5mm – without VR and now a smaller superzoom (the 10-100mm) by removing the VR and power drive.

      In my opinion this is not very smart because the people that need VR the most are the people that don’t know they need it. So when they see a cheaper smaller lens with the same zoom range it is a very easy decision but then they think the camera sucks when all their low light photos are blurry.

      • Ole Thorsen

        Both of the new zoom lenses 10-100mm f4-5.6 and 6.7-13mm f3.5-5.6 will have VR. The new prime lens 32mm f1.2 will not have VR.

        You can download the high resolution product photos from http://www.nikonusa.com/en/About-Nikon/Press-Room/Photo-Gallery/Photos/h8c3r8qc/1-NIKKOR-10-100mm-f%252F4-5.6.html for verification.

        The size differences (length) between the NEX, M4/3 and N1 lenses follows the same general scheme as the sensor size (diagonal) differences with NEX 100% , M4/3 75% and N1 55% if you look at comparable lenses (35mm equivalence) and not include speciality lenses like pancake and video lenses.

  • Brian

    They bagged the 800 F/5.6 after poor performance.

    • globjk

      What are you talking about… they probably are waiting for VR III to have all its bugs worked out and for a proper factory opening — VR III has only now begun to be implemented and its not exactly a priority for volume production. Anyway, there is probably no lens more worthy of the best VR than the longest telelens.

  • Jproctor

    Was hoping to see something alil better then this. Maybe a wider prime. Not sure if there is really a need for another 10-100 though.

  • Merv

    I’d think a rugged/underwater camera using the Nikon 1 sensor would something for Nikon to try, but maybe the lens would be too large?

    • gsum

      Several underwater housings are available. The cheapest at about £80 looks good but I’m waiting for a few reviews before buying one.

  • Bernard

    ANy idea about the price of these N1 lenses anyone ?

  • Rhonbo

    Another couple of slow consumer zooms, just what the 1 system needs to boost sales. Where are the DX primes? or D400 or?

    • Captain Megaton

      Your logic intrigues me. How will DX primes and a D400 boost sales of the Nikon 1 cameras?

      • Rhonbo

        It won’t. Why waste resources on something few people want? when there is pent up demand for other long overdue products.

        • RMJ

          So, since you seem to have more information than everyone else on this… how many people do want it ? Even rough sales figures are fine.

          I hardly doubt Nikon would release 2 new models in January, just few months after already releasing couple new models. Someone buys them and it’s good for every Nikon owner who wishes to see a new toy in the future.

          • Rhonbo

            Hmmm there must be more demand for comsumer 1 series zooms then I thought, go Nikon.

          • Captain Megaton

            You can read the unusually quick turnover of Nikon 1 camera models as either a sign of confidence or desperation. Without actual numbers, the only thing we can fairly say is that the V1, at least, sold poorly.

            Likewise, it’s really not possible to conclude if strong sales of the Nikon 1 system is good or bad for people who use Nikon dSLRs. I tend to think it won’t have much effect either way.

  • brunaita

    10-100 would be interesting for the superzoom crowd, light and with sensor quality far beyond these cams…bur no VR??? in a 270mm equivalent lens??? Strange!

  • ashwins

    It’s so incredible how much resources Nikon is wasting in the CX line…

    • Fry

      ..almost as much as the N1 haters spend bitching about the system on the internet

    • MyrddinWilt

      Thats because they make money and the only reason for the D4 or D800 is to attract buyers for the lower cost bodies.

      D7000 and D300s probably turn a profit. But none of the FX bodies has ever had enough sales to justify the development costs on its own.

      The F-mount line is done right now. They hav made pretty much every lens that is needed apart from the 80-400 AFS which they are never going to launch. (wide DX primes are a stupid idea, get yourself a CX body) They have pretty much every body they need except the D400 to replace the D7000 and a 50+MP body for studio photography.

      At least half the coming lens releases are going to be for CX in the next few years. At this point we only have six and one is essentially an update on the other. There are no CX lenses wider than 26mm which is ridiculous when ultra-wide is where the format has the big advantage over F-mount.

      • http://www.facebook.com/barefootintactivist Barefoot Intactivist

        How does a CX body help for those who want a DX wide prime? Do you mean FX?

        • Kyle Farris

          MyrddinWilt is obviously confused. CX cameras shine on the tight end of the range (think: birding/sports)–it’s very hard to get wide angles with CX without going to ridiculous lengths. Heck… a 6.7mm is still just a 18mm FX lens… not really THAT wide. It would take a 5.2mm lens to get a 14mm ultra-wide equivalent.

          • Sebastian

            What’s the problem with a 5 mm lens? Your cell phone’s lens is even shorter.
            There IS an advantage in designing wide lenses in a mirrorless system because you don’t need a retrofocus design just to clear the mirror box. But that’s just in principle. In practice it’s more complicated because the sensor cannot accept rays at very shallow angles (you’ll get vignetting) plus you need space for all the elements required for aberration controll. That’s why in the end even
            Mirrorless systems use retrofocus designs for the wide end. You can clearly see the big bulging negative meniscus lens on the N1 wide zoom.

            • El Aura

              But even retrofocus WA designs can be noticeably more compact on mirrorless. Just compare the two WA zooms for 4/3 and the WA zooms for m43. (I know, the 4/3 versions are optically better but the 7-14 mm m43 lens still is pretty good.)

          • MyrddinWilt

            I have a degree in physics. How about you?

            Wide angle is what the mirrorless format should be all about. Getting rid of the mirror sweep box means that the rear element of the lens can be closer to the image plane. That in turn means that a wide angle can have a normal or short focus design rather than the retro-focus design that the SLR wides are forced to adopt.

            That in turn means that the front element does not need to be big or complicated like the ones on the 14mm or 14-24mm.

            This is the reason Leica lenses are better, it is because the rangefinder design allows them to use a simpler design.

    • zoetmb

      That’s absurd. The people who work on the CX line are most likely NOT the people who work on the DX/FX lines. They probably don’t even come out of the same factories. And Nikon needs the CX line to replace lost P&S sales as the low end of P&S disappears to smart phone cameras. I’m not saying I love the design of the CX line, just that from a business standpoint, Nikon needs it.

  • desmo

    6.7 to 13 is a move in the right direction (18mm equiv on the wide end) but it should have been 6 to 13 (16mm to 35mm equiv)
    being small this is a travel camera it needs decent wide FOV to be taken seriously

    • Kyle Farris

      Agreed.

    • 57thStIncident

      18mm-equiv is plenty wide…anything wider than 24mm adequately distinguishes this from fixed-lens cameras which generally don’t go wider than 24mm-equiv. I’d be pleased if Pentax made an ultra-wide zoom with similar specs for the Q (though I would hope it would be a little faster to work better with Q’s smaller sensor).

  • Steve Wakeman

    I hoped that the 1 series would have just gone away by now but they’re persevering with it. I’m sure that many would rather see improved QC and more FX lens refreshes. Well, at least I would :)

    • MyrddinWilt

      I could not care less about those.

      I know that pretty much everyone here likes talking about the big expensive lenses and bodies. But that is a very small proportion of the Nikon market.

  • Dave Lively

    Maybe Nikon is getting ready to start a price war in the mirrorless market. The 11-27.5 and 10-100 look like they were designed to be as cheap as possible. The S1 also sounds like it was designed to cast as little as possible.

    I have always thought it was odd that mirrorless cameras without the intricate and precisely machined OVF and phase detect systems cost more than many SLRs. They should cost less, particularly if they do not have an EVF. The J1 and probably S1 do not even have a mechanical shutter. They should be the cheapest cameras with interchangeable lenses on the market.

    With the smallest sensor size the N1 series is not going to be able to match the image quality of other mirrorless cameras which would have been critical if Nikon was going after current SLR owners. Nikon designed the N1 for people stepping up from camera phones. To succeed in this market a camera has to offer better image quality than a cell phone, focus faster, be very simple, easy to use and small. Lots of cameras with
    bigger sensors and image quality meet those criteria. Nikon’s best hope for the N1 system is to drive cost out whenever possible and sell it cheaply. If Nikon can make money selling the S1 with an 11-27.5 lens for $300 it will probably be huge seller for them.

  • Morg

    Yawn! Will I still be using my D200 in 2013 that is the question!

  • catfish252

    Don’t care about the N1, J1, S1, P1, whatever 1….. Where are the replacements for the D300s and the D7000 Nikon?

  • evo

    the 10-100mm does have VR. Pretty clear on this photo.

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50547463

    • MyrddinWilt

      And looks to be a LOT more compact than the current model.

      But the current model is still better for video as it has the power zoom feature.

      The N1 lenses feel very nicely made. Much better than the DX lenses and better than the pro lenses in some ways. I would not want an f-mount f/2.8 lens made the same way though, it would weigh a freaking ton.

      Would be nice to see some wider and faster lenses. a 5.5 mm prime or wider would be very nice (14mm equiv).

      What they really need to make a definitive statement for the N1 is a 5mm though. The 13mm f/5.6 cost ten grand new and that cost was due to the extreme difficulty of making an SLR lens that wide. A 5mm for the CX format should not be drastically more complex than a 6mm.

  • Cookie

    A V3 sensor must at least have the quality of Sony’s RX 100 otherwise Nikon can forget the N1 V series. I am afraid Sony will not sell its sensor to Nikon

  • http://twitter.com/podperson Tonio Loewald

    Nikon 1 system cameras currently occupy something like 5 of the top 20 spots on Amazon’s best selling CSC camera list. http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Compact-System-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/3109924011

  • achmel

    yeah, these products are exactly the final piece of the world´s perpetum camera jigsaw, Nikon

  • ItsaChris

    any news, price, or info with the 32mm f1.2?
    I want to buy into the 1 system but… waiting on info on this lens and price for the 6.7-13.

  • PeterO

    The latest BCN report shows that the J1 is the Number One selling mirrorless camera in Japan at 11.2 % of the market. Of course Nikon is going to push this market segment at the expense of the high end DX. They know that that crowd has too much invested in lenses to start switching to Canon or Sony.

  • Nikonhead

    I have to get out more. I have never seen anyone carrying a Nikon V1 or J1 since they came out. Does anyone actually own one? Whenever I go to my local camera shop is all DSLR’s.

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