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Nikon support: Nikkor PC-E 24mm f/3.5D ED lens cannot be used with shifting and tilting on the D800 *updated*

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This press image (distributed only in Europe) shows the Nikkor PC-E 24mm f/3.5 lens attached to the Nikon D800

According to Nikon USA tech support the Nikkor PC-E 24mm f/3.5D ED lens cannot be used with shifting and tilting on the Nikon D800. This discussion has been going on for few days now in the NR comments section and on Twitter and Nikon USA has not updated their response online which makes me think that this is their "final answer" (in the mean time they did remove one of the critical comments in that thread):

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It is worth checking the support thread again next week after this post has been online for few days.

Update: here is Nikon D800/D800E lens compatibility table:

Update #2: Lars Pettersson from Nikon confirmed that D800 will work just fine with any of the Nikkor PC-E lenses.

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  • Luis

    I can’t imagine it’s any worse than trying to use the 24 on a D90. I have a D90 converted to IR and while there are some limitations with using the 24 on that body it isn’t as if it is completely worthless or “severely” limited in functionality. It won’t shift up vertically the full distance, maybe only 3/4th of the way, because it strikes the prism housing. It also won’t shift “up” vertically as much when you have the lens rotated a bit for the same reason. Of course, if this is a huge problem I can always invert the camera and shift the other direction, so that shifting “down” becomes shifting “up”. A bit of a hassle but it does get around the limitations.

    I also find practically no problems using the 24 on the D700 except for when the lens is rotate a bit and shifting up.

    I did convert my 24 to align the shift and tilt mechanisms, as many landscape photographers do, but not sure if that would make it actually work any easier or not.

    I think if there is a little bit less clearance on the D800 versus a D700 that the limitations will be rather small, but the lens will still work, and the “invert the camera” trick will overcome whatever small limitations there are.

    Maybe there is a market now for a special “camera inverting” bracket :-)

    • http://www.louisdallaraphotography.com/ Louis Dallara

      Thanks for the info, I never though of using the T/S lens on my D200 convert body, interesting idea. Did you have the body calibrated for that lens?
      My D200 is calibrated for my 18-70 mm.

      • Luis

        I had maxmax conver the D90 before I had the 24 PC-E. Besides, they calibrate everything to a certain lens although I can’t remember what that is. It’s a manual focus lens so I didn’t really bother calibrating the D90 specifically to the 24, although I guess I am lucky because both the AF rangefinder and MF are spot on. It wouldn’t be hard to calibrate yourself, though. The AF and MF adjustments are just a couple of hex screws inside the shutter box. Some trial and error turning those and taking pics gets you calibrated. Its’ a bit tedious but that’s how it’s done.

        Usually time permits me to use liveview zoomed in all of the way to ensure critical focus. Not something you can do on the D200, though, so you might need to calibrate it or just do a series of shots at slightly different focal points every time and pick the best one.

  • Dominik

    This will not be an issue.

    There has always been a quirk with the D700 and the 24mm PC-E where the shift knob knocks into the viewfinder assembly when rotated to the right (and why would you want to adjust it from that cramped position anyway?).

    Of course the simple solution is to rotate the lens the other way. The Nikon rep is surely referring to this behavior but of course got it wrong: the tilt and shift operation of the PC-E is still fully functional. The D800 being a slightly taller camera might not even have this problem at all.

    I’ve attached a couple of photos from my own D700 with 24mm PC-E to demonstrate it.

    http://i39.tinypic.com/29xaon6.jpg

    http://i40.tinypic.com/4g1bt5.jpg

    • YO

      agreed. I’ve used the 24PC-E lens on a D700 without issues. It is not the most ergonomic thing in the world but it is not as bad as this article puts it to be.

    • Darkness

      Fake, pathetic.

  • sfmthd

    if this is true, i’ll be returning the d800-e i ordered on day 1. the 24mm pc-e is my second most used lens. on the d700 the pc-e is 100% functional, despite the complaints of clearance issues. you just can’t rotate and then shift it in one particular direction, but you can always just rotate 180 and shift.

    here it is going through all the relevant movements on a d700. i just can’t imagine the d800 clearances are that much less – in the photos it looks incredibly similar in profile.

    • sfmthd
      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        Ha! Awesome. Thanks man. Forget all the chatter, this is what I’ve been waiting to see. Problem solved.

        • fred

          Why? That’s not a D800, you know…

          • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            Ha! You’re right. This is BS. I’m getting real tired of people that post fake images…

            • Calibrator

              It’s not a fake image – he clearly points out:
              “here it is going through all the relevant movements on a d700.”

              Don’t just click on links – read the text, too!

            • sfmthd

              yes… as I noted, that’s a d700. the point being that there are still people who say that the 24 pc-e has incompatibilities with the d700. nikon is most likely referring to this same degree of ‘incompatibility’ with the d800, i.e. to achieve certain movements you have to rotate clockwise instead of counterclockwise.

            • Patrik

              RussB is joking, duh! He was just frustrated with the negative comment that he got. I will confirm that the 24PC-E works fine on the D700. The D800 seems to be about the same as the D700, but the prism projection seems shorter. This can only be good…
              What Nikon is refering to in their chart is NOT the physical limitations of mounting the lens, but rather the electronic ones. When tilted, or shifted, the lens will not focus (electronic confirmation only, its MF), nor meter properly. Those are the limitations refered to by Nikon. From the chart it is clear to me that everything works as with a MF lens, but not when tilted or shifted.
              For focussing, use live-view. For exposure, take a test picture then use the histogram. Good for checking DOF and focus while you are at it…

    • Dominik

      Nikon wouldn’t be so careless as to develop a bunch of D800 prototypes and not test them with the 24 PC-E when they’re pitching this lens to landscape and architectural photographers.

      Of course this won’t be a problem. It will behave as it does on the D700 since they’re very similar in design.

      This is a very informative website but it’s easy for a topic like this to generate fear when there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

      • Dominik

        Correction: pitching this camera to landscape and architectural photographers.

      • Steve Starr

        They made the PC-E series to work only on the D3 series back then without restriction or limitations. Any other DSLR they make has had problems with the shift hitting the head or some knob or even metering. Same lens is out there, bodies changed in shape and size (people always complaining about too large) so the old style 24mm PC-E isn’t going to work 100% without banging into something.

        It needs a major rework so it will work on the newer bodies without restrictions as Nikon calls them.

        Another question would be “Does it work on the D4 too like the D3 series?”

        • Darkness

          Rubbish, troll

        • Patrik

          DO NOT POST WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
          I have all 3 of the PC-E lenses and a D700. Only a knob on the 24 can touch the prism when rotating. None will focus or meter properly when tilted or shifted. All PC-E lenses work well when mounted on a TC14E, but unfortunately the EXIF data does not include the converter as it is not officialy supported (a Dremel is required to prevent that “physical obstruction”).
          END OF STORY.

  • http://www.sidsiva.com Siddharth Siva

    So they remove that comment and still dont explain in detail! WTF??

  • Spy Black

    It would be hilarious if the forthcoming 24mm PC Samyang would work perfectly with the D800…

    • http://www.4togadget.com/ HotDuckZ

      Very hilarious, Samyang cannot use Jumbo Multi Big Shot. (Canon too, HA HA)

      • Patrik

        Not so sure about that, the Samyang looks to be a copy…

  • Roger

    I claimed this would happen as soon as the first pictures of D800 appeared on [NR]. They need to rework the PC-E lenses immediately

    • Mike

      No. They don’t. Try reading some of the other posts on here to get a sense of what people who use the lens think about it.

      • Brad

        No, Nikon simply needs to get rid of the stupid built in flash that is housed on this camera. The fact that a camera designer chooses to equip a camera tailored towards landscape/architectural photographer with a worthless flash that causes this type of problem and raises the price is beyond me.

        • Haha

          Thing is it can trigger external flashes, so people using it for that purpose will be happy. Also, do not be so narrow minded, thinking this is a landscape/architected aimed camera. That is just two small uses for it.

        • Patrik

          Always use the built-in when traveling light (like one does when shooting landscapes…). Great for fill on some shots (careful with lens shadows…), and control of macro-flashes. Any tool can prove to be useful by some. This comment reminds me of the “you cannot use 36MPix” posts!

        • bert

          The built in Flash of my D700 was very handy as fill in flash yesterday once more. I use it quite often.
          And regarding the PCE: I have the 85mm, and it works flawless on a D700. Only stupid thing is that the rotating lever is in the same position as the lens unlock, so I dropped my baby one time (hard lesson). TG, it is sturdy enough, and all you can see of the drop is a very small scratch.

        • http://blog Gerard Prins

          That STUPID flash gives us the ability to remotely control flashes maintaining full iTTL functionality, which can otherwise only be done by mounting a big, heavy and expensive lump called SU-800.
          Thank heavens Nikon decided to keep the built-in. My bet is that more people use that on a regular basis than this TS…

        • http://blog.gerardprins.com Gerard Prins

          Mike: in the list “tailored to” you failed to mention the principal target for this camera.
          Medium format studio users, whom — surprise-surprise — do not use your precious TS lenses all that much, but DO use flash all the time.
          Getting rid of all the STUPID cables and still be able to control flashes (even some strobes) in full TTL is clearly a bonus.

  • james webb

    This is rubbish,there have been threads on flickr and so on. I have sent a message to Nikon UK about this and the reply is below, Who ever that is in the US needs some training on customer services. I bought both the D800e and the tilt shift together thinking it would not be a problem, then i have to keep reading this on every nikon page i go on.

    its not perfect but its better than the answer from the US

    Dear James,

    Thank you for your email.

    Unfortunately, the built-in flash in cameras other than D3/D4 series will cause the 24mm PC-E lens movements to be slightly limited and pose a risk of damaging the underneath of the flash. It is mentioned in the lens user’s manual :

    “When the lens is mounted to a camera other than the D3, shift, tilt and/or revolve the lens with care. Failure to do so, may result in the lens scratching the camera body.”

    We apologize for the inconvenience caused,

    Please do not hesitate to contact us again in case of any questions.

    Kind regards,

    Aleksander Nowak
    Nikon Europe Support

    • Steve Starr

      Good to know it works with the D4 – maybe. The guys with the D800 will have to suffer the limited movements and metering/focus issues on the PC-E lenses that plaque the non D3/D4 bodies.

      Really dumb Nikon didn’t put the flash-head up higher on the D800 as its flash will no doubt be shielded from covering the scene of most all of their recommended f/2.8 lenses with their lens hoods on much as with the D7000 series with a FX f/2.8 lenses on it. That would have allowed for clearance of the PC-E lenses too.

      So the D800 won’t work with the 24mm PC-E fully, and the internal flash will be blocked by the larger diameter and faster speed FX lenses too.

      • jorg

        Wrong

      • chuck

        who the hell uses a built in flash with the 2.8 lenses?

        • north

          I use the build in flash as a trigger for my other strobes. Pretty handy if you ask me.

  • doug

    im shocked that only now you guys found that out.

  • Gohf

    Much ado about nothing.

    imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/compatibility02.htm

    It works. It won’t properly meter in P or A; it is compatible in M.

    This is the same as other most other modern cameras mentioned that can’t handle the tilt / shift and meter properly at the same time.

    Couple that with some probably marginal tight squeeze due to the flash nose overhang, and a misleading post from Nikon staff and we’ve got an instant controversy.

    • Darkness

      FAKE post by Nikon staff, slander

      • Gohf

        ???

      • james webb

        Whats a fake post by Nikon ? if your referring to the email i posted think again. I will forward you the response if you like and then you can get back under your rock.

  • Sahaja

    If Nikon made cameras with a built-in flash a little flatter on the top, instead of sloping down, the flash would not have to swing down quite as much to stow away and they would gain about 0.7cm more clearance above the lens.

  • Steve
  • crews

    why a built in flash at all? i´d have preferred to have full masking options (i´m still not shure how smart the d800 is in format masking), sturdy viewfinder and just throw that tiny additional flash with own batteries in the bag.
    st.

    • Sahaja

      I find it useful all the time as a fill in for close shots – and often I’m carrying the camera without a bag.

      • Dan

        Me too. I find the D700 flash to be very handy at times.

        • jodjac

          So do I. So smart for them to include a built in flash with commander mode, what an awesome feature. I use it a lot. Still, how hard would it be for them to make it compatible with the Tilt Shift lenses.

          • Some guy

            +1

            This seems to have been a minor but known issue that should have been on the design check list for R&D.

  • a4

    “Nikon USA has not updated their response online which makes me think that this is their “final answer” (in the mean time they did remove one of the critical comments in that thread)”

    Oh how nice of them! This kind of proves my point about Nikon not really giving a sh*t about their customers. Charging you is the only thing they care about…

  • Jeff

    FRom a swedish nikon fan page:

    google translate….

    Posted March 9, 2012 – 13:29
    I now have from reliable sources told that D800 and 24mm PC_E work smoothly with
    a slight reservation. It may happen in certain situations, as I noticed when I tested the
    lens on my D700, is that when you turn the lens to be hitting the underside of
    sökarhuset the camera with an adjusting screw.
    Nevertheless, this will not be a major handicap.

    http://www.nikonforum.se/index.php?/topic/30873-d800pc-e-nikkor-24mm-fungerar-inte-ihop/page__pid__305633#entry305633

  • James

    If this is true, Nikon have made a huge blunder. They have repeatedly stated that the D800 is a niche product aimed at landscape and fine art photography, i.e., EXACTLY the photographers who would use tilt/shift type lenses. What on earth were they thinking? If this is a restriction caused by the ‘pop-up flash’ as on the D700, that was also a fairly retarded notion on a semi-pro body (in the case of the D800’s proposed user-base, you’d have to say it’s fully pro), but whatever the case it’s bound to be a disaster. Pure idiocy.

  • http://www.robertbalala.com Robert Balala

    If you create an account and work directly with a representative, you can get them to escalate your questions to a manager or more technical person. I have had luck getting it escalated, but the thing with nikon is that if it don’t work… IT DON’T WORK!… lol..

  • DL

    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/compatibility02.htm

    admin should just update this thread and end everybody’s doubts

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      already updated

  • John Dominick

    I spoke to two Nikon reps at Focus on Imaging this week andthey confirmed for me that the D800 is fully compatible with all the PC-E lenses, as I have both the 24mm and 45mm. I think I’ll phone Kingston tomorrow to check again but even if there’s some compromise I don’t feel inclined to get to hysterical.

  • Crimed

    Off topic but I just had to share this. Today Amazon offered me a personal “Gold Box” deal on the D800e for $3134.00. I have the D800 on order from the first day.

    • Crimed

      On the other hand, Amazon is charging $616 for the mb-d12 and Adorama has it to order for $449.

      • Dweeb

        Still a lot of money for a 200 dollar grip.

        • Craig

          You mean a US$50 grip.

  • Dominik

    Some people responding are clearly not reading any of the comments that have been posted so far.

    It will work the way it does on the D700. That means it will be fully functional. You can shift it all the way up and down. Ditto for tilt.

    There are no limitations other than when rotating the shift axis, you have to rotate it left and not right, because unlike the D3/D3s the shift knob won’t clear the overhang – only the smaller locking knob on the other side will.

    I have already posted photos on this thread that demonstrate this:

    http://i39.tinypic.com/29xaon6.jpg

    http://i40.tinypic.com/4g1bt5.jpg

  • neversink

    Gee… All you imaging software geeks out there keep on telling me that PC lenses aren’t necessary anymore because of the Perspective adjustments in programs like Photoshop…..

    So why is everyone so hot and bothered about this???

    Ah the days of film and chemicals…..

    • Ralph

      I have a Nikon PC lens (they only do shift for perspective correction), I never use this lens, its sat in the cupboard for over 10 yrs. I also have the 24PC-E which adds tilt, I use this lens more than my 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200 together. You cant replicate tilt in software, I can get my landscapes in sharp focus from a few inches to infinity with enough tilt, its landscape gold.

      If I need to correct perspective only I use PS.

    • Pot Black

      You sir are a hipster.

  • http://www.akfotografia.com AkFotografia

    Don’t be fools. It works perfectly on D800. Check: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/microsite/d800/architecture/on-assignment/

  • jcfh

    I checked the Japanese website, the remarks “can not be used” concerning the PC-E lenses are exactly the same for the D800 as is with the D3, D3s, D3x. (starred 3, and or 5). This concerns the focusing, metering and exposure functions.

    I have the 24mm PC-E and the D3x. I have ordered the D800 the day of the announcement, and have no worries what so ever.

    It appears something is being lost in the translation.

  • Jim

    I still have my 4 X 5 view camera with multiple lenses and two bellows (wide-angle) and normal. Back to REAL photography.

  • MrFuture

    THIS JUST IN from Nikon Corporate:

    Nikon D800 is not compatible with Nikon lenses. Also, for high performance cars, please use the gas pump labeled “not for high performance cars.” -Thank you -Nikon Corporate.

  • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

    This is very strange. As noted above, a tilt/shift lens would seem like a natural for a high res camera like the D800.

  • James

    Those are rather odd compatibility specs from Nikon. On the table it appears the ‘5’ note also applies to ‘M’ in manual exposure mode? So which exposure mode can I use it with, then? At the very least I’d say Nikon need to get their act together and be a little clearer about specifically what will and won’t be compatible with this body/lens combination, which was the original complaint, I believe. E.g., apart from the above mode compatibilities, is it restricted in shift upwards as on the D700 for example, and to what degree?

    I’m so grateful for the posters who are telling us we’re idiots for actually believing the manufacturer’s own specs, and that it will *obviously* work. They’re right of course- what on earth were we thinking? I, for one, have now made a mental note that the next time I’m buying any piece of technology I must not trust the manufacturer’s specs on it’s features, but instead go and ask a bunch of random people who probably haven’t even used it.

    • Pat Mann

      Relax.

      The manufacturer’s specs do NOT say the lens cannot be used. They say that in manual exposure mode, you can’t use the electronic rangefinder focus assist with tilts and shifts, and that auto exposure modes won’t work correctly with tilts and shifts. These limits are no different than on the D700. People who use this lens are used to working with these lenses in this way.

      This all started with a tech support person that didn’t read the specs carefully and misunderstood them. We’re just going to have to wait until Nikon gets in and deals with that response.

      I believe the specifications.

  • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

    Post updated: check also this D800 lens compatibility table http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/compatibility02.htm

    • MB

      So D800 is as compatible with PC-E 24mm as D3s is: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d3s/compatibility.htm … as we assumed it is.

    • jorg

      “can not be used with tilt and shift” is not directed at the physical usage of the lens.
      this sounds like metering is not accurate when tilting or shifting is applied.

      • Dominik

        That has always been the case. Meter the scene with no shift or tilt applied, dial in exposure, then shift and tilt as required.

  • Mark

    I’d care if I were not already waiting to see a better TS lens from Nikon.
    That, I will want to buy and use w/ my d800!

    • Darkness

      TS? You troll for Canon now?

    • jorg

      i am currently in the market for a 24 pc-e. could you explain, why the current pc-e lenses do not perform up to your requirements? thx

  • Ant

    Regarding Nikon’s lens compatibility table, they make exactly the same remark in the table for the D3s. It must be some kind of ultra-conservative policy to indemnify them should anybody lightly scratch their prism housing.

  • dbltax

    So the PC-E lenses DO work on the D800 then. According the compatibility table they meter in most modes when in the normal position, but metering is lost when the lens is either tilted or shifted… Which is the case with existing cameras anyway.

  • fred

    Worst thread ever. The chart clearly shows that the lens works with no tilt/shift restrictions in M mode without electronic rangefinder.

  • Joe

    Maybe interesting for some: I asked Nikon Service about mounting the 24mm PC-E to a Nikon 1 via the FT-1 adapter, as the 24mm was not listed in the compatibility list. I was thinking about using the 24mm as a “normal” T/S lens on the Nikon 1, with the Nikon 1 also being a small pocket camera. Unfortunately it doesn’t mount physically, according to the service guy some part is in the way.

    • Monkey Nigh Mow

      That would be…interesting to see mounted on a tripod. :X

  • http://www.paulbohman.com/ Paul Bohman

    The 45mm tilt shift was used to create at least one of the sample images that Nikon provides for the D800:

    http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample02.htm

  • Darkness

    So a Canon employed social media exec makes up some cr@p and you losers fall for it?
    I have dealt with Nikon support and they have always been very helpful. This is a shocking cheap shot to confuse and divert attention from the worst new camera launch since the 50D, the MK3. Have faith and stop falling for this sh1t.

  • drc

    Look at the initial question. “Will the 24 PC-E work with the new D800?” Look and ask what the requestor mean by the words “work with”. Even without translation from english the words “work with” contains ambiguity. We all know in English that “works with” and completely compatible do not mean the same thing.

    Though as a Tech I’d interpret that he meant to ask the question “Will the 24 PC-E fully function using the new D800?” I’d look it up and find the physics surrounding the image magnification change provides false light meter information. The meter exists as part of the D800 and false the information from the working meter may suggest works sort of but does not mean fully functional. So I would quote the literature and tell the customer it is fully compatible as long as you do not shift or tilt it.

    This whole thread depends not on the quality of the Tech’s answer but rather the quality of the question.

    • fred

      Good service from Nikon would mean recognizing the question as too vague, and responding appropriately.

  • Steve Starr

    Interesting. The chart on the PC-E lens for the D800 is the same as the one for the D7000 DX body, except the 3 and 5 are interchanged but have the same explanations. Same for the D700 as well. I doubt it works on the D7000 with regards to full mechanical travel.

    The D7000 is shorter in height and I doubt if it works without hitting the head for the shift portion with the 24mm PC-E lens. Something is really fouled up in Nikon’s explanation as to what is compatible. I suspect all the charts and “compatibility” pertain to whether the lens metering and focusing “Electrical interlinks” work to the body or not, and not necessarily that the lens won’t or could hit something “Mechanically.”

    Need to see one on a D800 someplace. Maybe in a month or two.

  • kyoshinikon

    The only thing this post proves is that alongside a few uninformed customers is a crummy pr department at nikon…

  • http://blog.markstothard.com Mark Stothard

    After reading all the posts regarding the D800 and 24mm PCE lens and that I have ordered my D800 and as I own all 3 PCE lenses, I thought I would email NPS (UK) and ask them for their take on this conversation.

    I believe that you will still be able to use the 24mm PCE fully, however you just need to be careful while rotating and tilting the lens.

    Here is there reply.

    Alek 12/03/2012 | 12:19 PM

    Dear Mark,

    Thank you for your email.

    I would like to confirm that there is no known compatibility problem between D800/D800E and PC-E lenses except for the 24mm PC-E mounting and T/S operation restriction due to the built-in flash housing.

    Please do not hesitate to contact us again in case of any questions.

    Kind regards,

    Aleksander Nowak
    Nikon Europe Support
    http://www.europe-nikon.com/support

  • dkirk335

    going to full frame soon, now leaning more toward Canon, this will be a huge blow to nikon if not straightened out. This is why I wait 6 months before deciding.

    • http://blog.markstothard.com Marfk

      While I’m a Nikon shooter and own all 3 Nikkoe PC-E lenses, some 20 years ago I did own a Canon T90.

      The Canon PC-E lenses may be better as you can tilt and shift at the same time, with Nikon you can only tilt or shift.

      I wonder if Canon glass is better?

      I guess you will know that the photographer makes the image, it’s about the image telling a story within the image, that makes a great image not the gear, although having the right gear does count also.

      I have always said, go to a camera shop, play with the cameras find out what feels right in your hands !!!

      • Dominik

        The new TS-E II lenses are obviously a better design for the reason you mentioned, but I’d say the 24mm is marginally better (I haven’t seen a side-by-side comparison of the same scene but distortion and CA would surely be minimal – they are both very sharp).

        The real advantage is Canon has a 17mm TS-E. I hope now that Nikon has a 36mp camera pitched at landscape and architectural photographers they’ll seriously consider making one.

      • Luis

        I don’t know where you got your information but I tilt AND shift at the same time with my Nikon PC-E lenses all of the time.

        • Dominik

          What he means is on the Canon 17 and 24mm TS-E lenses, tilt and shift can be rotated independently of each other.

          With the PC-E you either use it as it comes from the factory with tilt and shift on a separate axis or pull it apart and modify it so they’re on the same axis.

          With the Canon you don’t have to unscrew anything or pull it apart – you can freely rotate them. It’s a much better design.

          • http://blog.markstothard.com Mark

            Dominik

            You will see from this YouTube video http://youtu.be/2fStoE8r0Oo

            That Canon Tilt Shift lenses can rotated tilt and shift independently.

            Which is why I have the Nikon and Canon PC-E Lens, although I am I Nikon Shooter.

            Mark

            • Luis

              I agree being able to rotate the shift axis independent of the tilt axis on the Canon lenses is a better design but saying “The Canon PC-E lenses may be better as you can tilt and shift at the same time, with Nikon you can only tilt or shift.” implies if you have the lens tilted you can’t shift it, or vice-versa, which isn’t true and sounds very misleading – somewhat like the original post of Nikon’s statement that started this entire misleading thread. Just clarifying.

        • http://blog.markstothard.com Mark

          Luis

          You will see from this YouTube video http://youtu.be/2fStoE8r0Oo

          That Canon’s Tilt Shift lenses can rotated tilt and shift independently.

          Which is why I have the Nikon and Canon PC-E Lens, although I am I Nikon Shooter.

          Mark

  • Mohsen al-Dajani

    I was among the first who placed a pre-order for this camera, “E” version, and waiting to get it to buy a 24mm PC immediately. Now, I just canceled my order, sorry Nikon. I don’t want my camera keeps fighting with my lenses while in the middle of a shoot.

    Back to my Ebony 4×5, thanks God…I was preparing to sell it.

    Wonder what else will go wrong with this camera. AA filter?

    • Dominik

      Did you not read any of the posts here?

      There is no issue with this lens on a D800. It will work the same way it does on the D700 and that is maximum shift and tilt movements.

      I own a D700 and 24 PC-E and can confirm there is no issue with it. I’ve already posted photos demonstrating this.

      The rep who responded on that Nikon forum was clueless.

      • Mohsen al-Dajani

        what does this means when Aleksander Nowak (another Nikon rep) said:
        “except for the 24mm PC-E mounting and T/S operation restriction due to the built-in flash housing”.

        I still do believe that this site is all about ‘Rumers’ but where is Nikon? Say something Nikon.

        • Dominik

          Mohsen, there are two knobs on the shift axis.

          A small one for tension to lock it down and a larger one to perform the actual shift movement.

          When the lens is rotated to the left for horizontal shift so the larger shift knob is facing down, there is no problem because the smaller locking knob clears the flash assembly.

          However if you try to rotate it to the right from the normal position (and there is no reason to do this), the larger shift knob won’t clear the flash. The D3/D3s doesn’t have this issue. I will post photos with it rotated in each direction to demonstrate this.

          http://i39.tinypic.com/29xaon6.jpg

          http://i40.tinypic.com/4g1bt5.jpg

          And finally, at maximum shift there is still room between the PC-E and the flash:

          http://i39.tinypic.com/rlfhxt.jpg

          I can assure you the PC-E is fully functional on a D700 and will be on a D800 since they are almost identical. You have maximum shift in all directions, as well as tilt.

          Also, refer to this: Update #2: Lars Pettersson from Nikon confirmed that D800 will work just fine with any of the Nikkor PC-E lenses.

      • Luis

        +1000000

  • http://www.heikobertram.nl heiko

    the 24 pc nikor can be used on the Nikon D800. I just the combo at tested it at professional imaging 2012 (the Netherlands)

    • Luis

      Thank you. Maybe Heiko’s real world field test will finally clarify this for all of you people that are freaking out about this post.

    • Dominik

      It’s hard to believe one poorly worded reply from a clueless rep could lead to so much confusion. Many other sites also picked up this rumor and people started to panic.

      Nikon went out of its way promoting the D800 with samples from an architectural photographer, including special comments from him where he even mentions using the PC-E. This camera specifically targets landscape and architectural photographers who will use the PC-E so there was absolutely no chance they would release it without full compatibility.

  • Julian Ko

    Nikon never mentions the mechanical interference. “Can not works with shifting and tilting” is the restriction on metering and focus( the focus indicator won’t work in MF mode).

  • http://www.hydrotoys.com Mark

    Yes, but will it blend. :)

  • http://www.studioelan.pl studioelan
  • solution

    Use an extension tube………

  • Rana123

    I am a Nikon user for the past 40 years and all SLR FE up to F3 hp and DSLR since D70 arrived. Now have a D90. The problem is I want to buy a D800 and the trinity of lenses zooms plus a PC lens. Now if a PC lens is not compatible with a D800 what should I do, jump the ship and move to Canon where there are no such problems with 5D and IDX etc.? I will do that with a heavy heart besides all my gear of Nikon and it is many lenses f1.2, f2 24mm, 300mm, 70-300mm, and so many things like flash SB800 and so on will be rendered useless. I want a clear statement from Nikon please. And a 36 MP camera not supporting a PC lens would be a horrific blunder.

  • kd

    Where can I find list of compatible lenses for my DSLR? I own a Nikon D3100

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