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The next Nikon product announcement will be on February 7th, 2012

Nikon will have a new product announcement on February 7th, 2012. Expect new Coolpix cameras and probably the Nikon D800 to be revealed. At that point I am not sure if there will be also a new lens announced on that date.

This is a good timing since the CP+ Camera and Photo Imaging shows start on February 9th, 2012 in Japan.

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  • Zorro

    Hopefully the D40S.

    • Jan

      The D40S will have 8MP.

      • BartyL

        8MP is a ridiculously high pixel-count. Who could possibly make use of that. I suppose it’s OK for landscape and studio shooters who need massive prints, say 10 x 12″, but it’s completely overboard for the rest of us.

        All I really want from the D40s is 1 really good pixel, and noise-free images at ISO 9000 000 000.

        C’mon Nikon, wake up and listen to what your real customers want!

        • Discontinued

          Do not forget the burst rate. We need at least 13 fps for randomly taking our pixel at the very right moment. And lets not forget about shutter speeds. We urgently need a 1/500 sync. Anythig else would be a huge failure.

          • Eric

            Hmmm. I agree that fps & high ISO are more than good enough for the last bunch of cameras, but being able to sync at any speed with a recent sensor would be just great.
            And it does help you to take better pictures with less gear.

            • Shah

              And that one pixel.

      • Andrew

        Jan, that is so bad, Zorro said D40S, not D40s. The uppercase “S” stands for supercharged. With this camera, if you take a picture in total darkness, you get a totally dark picture – true to form. This camera will definitely be released.

      • Ken Elliott

        This pixel war has to STOP. I just need ONE PIXEL, but I need ISO 123,456,7879,000!!!!!

        And I want a EX sensor. DX is too small, FX too large, but EX is just right…

    • D40 User

      Oh yeah baby.. this is what I have been waiting for…

      -Current d40 user.

  • St.

    I’m waiting for it!!!
    Peter, do you think it will really be 36MPx. Many sources out there do not agree with your prediction and say it will be 24MPx.
    Also, what will be the 4 buttons on top – or we can just guess so far??

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      36MP, not sure about the button

      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        My dream landscape camera. All my glass is waiting for it, in fact I’m about to buy the Zeiss 21mm ZF.2 in readiness for it too… Hurry along now!!!!

        • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

          Some peoples dream camera, some peoples face palm camera. Depending on the kind of stuff you are shooting. For me, definitely more face palm than dream.

          • zeroanalogue

            + 1

          • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            Perhaps, and I don’t pretend it will be right for everyone but no one could surely now complain that there wasn’t real choice across the board in the marketplace if it’s not to your liking… I have shot with the 12MP D700 for the past two years and it is indeed unbelievably good. If you don’t want those 36MP then I’ll be happy to sell that D700 to you ;)

            • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

              I am more likely to buy a D4 now as that is closer to needs than the D800 will be probably. Ideally I would like a camera in between the D4 and D800. With slightly higher MP and the D4 between 18 and 24mp. Better ISO ability than the D800 and a faster fps speed between 6 and 8 frames per second. I need a camera that isn’t specialised and I get the feeling that the D800 is moving far to much into a limited niche. I do hope that I am wrong, which is why I am holding off on buying the D4.

        • MJr

          Well if any lens should be able to take advantage of those megapixels, it’s that one. =)

    • http://frisianphotography.wordpress.com FrisianPhotography

      If you’re referring to the buttons on top of the left dial on the left shoulder: I personally hope they get rid of the ‘quality’ button. I for one hardly ever change it from RAW. And on the few occasions that I do need some JPEGs for quick output, I don’t mind going in to a menu.

      • Heribert

        I absolutely agree. I hardly use the ‘quality’ button at all. What I would love to see is any easier way to change between the user configured presets.

        Also I’d love to see that pressing both buttons with the green dot don’t reset to factory presets. This is a typical function to be hidden deep down in the menus. Instead of that, this key combination could reset to the user configured preset #1. So after changing various settings, you can easily get back to your normal settings.

        • PHB

          Yes, that is what should happen. A quick reset is really useful – something I have found trying out the V1.

          But the reset should really be to the user’s presets.

          I would like to be able to define sixteen or twenty different presets. The camera has gigabytes of storage, use it.

          Ideally it should be possible to configure the presets on an iPhone app or a laptop and set them up so that they are orthogonal. So I would have one mode for shallow DOF, another for low light, strobe, etc etc and these would be orthogonal to my HDR, fast shooting etc modes.

        • St.

          Plus, shooting RAW, who the heck needs WB button either???
          2 buttons out of 4 – total waste of the most important space!
          At least they could make those customizable, so you can assign the option you need. I believe it’s not that hard!?

        • Emanuele

          +1

        • djh65

          @Heribert, Love the idea of the two green buttons cycling through user pre-sets rather than resetting. Seems like that could be a firmware fix.

      • Anon

        Don’t remove it, I do use it quite often. Maybe if Nikon gives us RAW sizes option… more people will touch that button.

        • Chris Ni

          agree!!!

      • Spooky

        Agreed, they can hide the quality setting in the cam, I shoot always RAW.

        • neversink

          I shoot raw + jpeg (customized…). I use the Jpeg as a large thumbnail of how I want my final image to be, but with more detail and ability to slightly adjust. There are lots of times when the jpeg is perfect. But there are just as many times when the jpegs are close to perfect, but that isn’t good enough. So some manipulation is necessary…

          I agree… Quality is something I rarely change, so for me, it is a worthless button.

          I’m not sure why they have the reset buttons on the outside of the menu. Wonder why its just not embedded.

      • http://www.novumlucis.com Dr SCSI

        @FrisianPhotography, don’t get rid of the button, just make the button programable. That way if you want it to set it to change QUAL, you can. If you want it to change user configured presets, you can. Just make it a Fn2, completely programable to ANY menu item; well maybe not Format CF, that would be dangerous.

        • http://frisianphotography.wordpress.com/ FrisianPhotography

          The button itself can (should) stay, but as suggested, should have another function or be programmable.

          Perhaps Nikon should supply some DIY stickers, to put on the button to match the function you programmed… (kidding of course ;) ).

      • Twoomy

        Dear all commenters:

        Thank you for your suggestions. Due to this new information, we are recalling all of the D800’s that we were getting ready to ship out and we will be redesigning and remolding the body to hide the “quality” button. We hope this makes your shooting experience more productive.

        This last-minute change may delay the announcement 4 more months, but we think it will be worth it.

        Best regards, your friends at Nikon

        • St.

          That’s not even funny.
          As being a close specialized company for photography, Nikon should see those “problems” before we do!
          QUAL and WB buttons have been priceless years ago, but not anymore.
          I like the NEX-7 concept – put tri-navi buttons black and the user can customize not just the individual buttons, but as configuration as well.
          This way there won’t be any complaints.
          I believe it’s just a “programming” thing – they don’t have to redesign ANYTHING!

          • Josh

            You’re kidding right? Just because your sorry a$$ does not know the value of the WB and Qual buttons, does not mean that other, more knowledgeable people don’t either. Go back to shooting with your cellphone camera and leave the DSLRs to people that know what they are doing. Moron Alert!

            • FBupdate

              I use those buttons all the time–I can’t wait to get a D800 so I can use it to update my facebook profile.

            • St.

              I know the value of both very well. It seems you’re the one, who shoot in JPG and WB is substantial to set from the camera. Or may be you shoot raw, but print directly from the camera, without post-processing…. You know yourself…
              I just saying that for a RAW shooter, who uses modern software for post processing it’s just a matter of a slider to set the WB at the needed value. Thus, if you only shoot RAW (As most of the pro’s do) both buttons become almost not usable and I don’t see a reason to take that strategic place. At least they should be programmable.
              @Josh: as for your bad tone I would advice the admin to clear posts like yours. You may have your own opinion and defend it, without insulting.

            • twoomy

              @St. Actually, stop pretending you know what pros need. Just because you shoot RAW and don’t care about white balance doesn’t mean that it’s not useful to others.

              Pros sometimes shoot JPEG for the speed of it. If you’re shooting news or sports and have to get something live ASAP, you don’t want to wait until hours later to do RAW conversion. And you often want to get the WB set correctly in your original shot rather than wasting time in post proc.

              It might not be what YOU care about, but please accept the fact that others have different workflow needs and they might actually be “pros” as well.

            • St.

              @twoomy: I agree with you that everybody knows their workflow needs.
              Plus I also shoot JPG when I need more fps.
              But my point also was that we can stand by our opinion here without “A$$ MORON” each other.

      • F

        Well I’m a pro, and I use the Qual & Wb buttons very often. Even though I shoot mostly everything RAW, there are many sporting events where I have to shoot as Jpeg for quick uploads afterwards and I don’t want to go into the menus to switch back & forth..nor do I need an extra raw file saved either. So there are people who appreciate that feature.
        All they need to do is make the button programmable so that you can choose other options that suit your needs.

    • Rob

      Can’t you just read the pictures? Qual, BKT, W/B, and ISO. Are those the buttons you were referring to (I don’t know of any other groups of 4)? Or are you thinking they’ll change since the prototype?

  • Kai Sheng

    I hope it’s not such a high megapixel. I’ll get the D700 immediately if the megapixels are that high. The only flipside is that video mode is non-existant on the D700. Let’s see what D800 has to offer.

  • CO

    Disagree with the leaked spec of D800 (especially high mp and low FPS), i will direct go D4 otherwise…

    • Anon

      How about half of D4 price?

    • http://StevenGeorges.com Steven Georges

      @CO,

      That’s what Nikon is hoping for.
      (and it’s why I have to get the D4)

  • David

    I don’t know. 36MP is the pixel size of a D7000, just a larger sheet of them. The math works perfectly. 24MP means a completely new pixel size, in between the D4 and D7000. Maybe, if they are also working on a D300s replacement, that will see the D800 pixels in an APS-C sensor. I don’t see them using an completely independent and unique tech for just one camera. The rumors are same ISO as a 7000, and really, if you could shoot a D7000’s pixels, and even crop them down as needed, you’d get some nice images out of it.

    • Worminator

      Well, the D4 “leaks” were pretty much 100% right, really no reason to think the D800 info was anything less than genuine.

      24 MP full frame has been around for a while, and we are at 24 MP APS-C now, so 36 MP full frame is hardly a stretch, indeed 48 MP is inevitable.

      The interesting question is whether we’ll ever see a “cap” put on the megapixels, a limit imposed not by manufacturing but voluntarily simply because there’s no need or demand.

      Or will we see 100 MP in 4 four years.

      I suspect the latter.

      • Andrew

        I consider the D800 based 36 MP camera a stretch if you care about high ISO at a reasonable price. And as far as 24 MP is concerned with the FX based D3x ($8,000), that is old technology and could well have not existed since 98% of users could not afford or justify that camera because of the price. By old technology I mean that the sensor in the D3x is not back-illuminated. Giving us a full frame, 24 MP sensor, with back-illumination will be awesome, especially if it is priced at around $2,495. This will be a true D700 replacement that many photographers have been yearning for.

        • WoutK89

          Back illuminated full frame? Which camera does this already?
          BTW, considering the low-light capabilities, any sensible person sees this camera is aimed at different people than the low-light shooters (studio and landscape work), where resolution counts.

          • http://www.malphotography.net Michael Laing

            I agree that it is aimed at studio and land scape photographers. I do pretty much all kinds of photography from studio shots to photographing performers. From the about the camera, it is going to be much to specialised for someone like myself who needs the camera to do everything well. Which means I am probably going to have to get the D4, which is more than I originally wanted to spends. Ideally I would have liked something in between what the D4 offers and what the D800 will probably offer.

            • http://galleries.gorji.com Gorji

              1+ Nikon wants to differentiates between D4 and D800 not just by price but by function (that is if the rumors about specs are correct).

            • St.

              I agree with Michael Laing.
              Separation in functionality is good, but then please offer both cameras, and let the customer decide which one fits his needs.
              Like ok, I don’t mind if D800 has 36mPx for landscapers, but if I want a good quality in low light I need to buy the 4yrs old D700 or go for the huge D4. This is not serious!
              I think their perfect lineup will be:
              – D4 as the Pro body
              – D800 – high MPx
              – D800s (D900 or whatever) – with high ISO
              – D400 – should combine D300s and D7000 in a Pro DX body
              – D5100 – for advanced enthusiasts
              – D3100 – consumer type
              Who needs more?
              I don’t see reason of D4x, because landscapers would appreciate the smaller body of D800.

        • DR

          Thats not true. I’m D700 shooter and I don’t wait for 36MP. Not even waiting for 16MP. Reasonable photographers know that there is very little difference (aparat from numbers) between predicted D800 pixel count and 16MP of D4 or even 12MP of D700. True high resolution is not only pixels. A lens on DX is less sharp than on FX sensor (using larger area of glass), worse in corners of course. But size of FX sensor and lens designed for FX makes it always far worse in terms of overall sharpness then any medium format cameras. You won’t get far with FX due to physical boundaies.

          • david distefano

            nothing tops beautiful 4×5 velvia transparencies made through schneider lenses for landscapes except an 8×10 velvia transparency. sports, photo journalism, digital is the way and the d4 is the tool but if you are serious about landscape nothing beats a view camera.

      • djh65

        @Worminator, regarding the MP cap, look at medium format, that bar keeps going up too so I expect to see the same thing here.

    • nah

      16×2 does not equal 36

      • inginerul

        Good sir, I think we are talking surface area, and indeed the Full frame sensor is not 2x bigger than the cropped one, but rather 2.5 times.

      • Jan Roddick

        The FX sensor is 2.33 times bigger than teh DX.

        If the D800 gets 36 MP, the DX crop mode on that camera will be 15.4MP

      • John Richardson

        Good point on size and density ratios.

      • Twoomy

        I think people are just scared at how much disk space and processing power their computer will need for 36gb RAW files.

        Me, I’d be ecstatic to have all that resolution. And if you think about it, A D800 will have a D400 hidden inside of it. Stick on an old DX lens and you will most likely have D7000 image quality in a better body. D400!

        • WoutK89

          At almost twice the price, and half the speed, I prefer a D400 over a D800, thanks.

      • http://Www.novumlucis.com Dr SCSI

        @FP, one expects the high pixel density seen in an enthusiast camera like the D7000, but I understand completely why there are so many with reservations about the rumored specs on the D800. I for one expect the D800 to exceed the ISO capabilities of the D7000, and not become its equal.

        @Twoomy, +1, I do like the idea of having the high resolution, even when put into DX mode with an FX lens. Birders will enjoy a 1.5x crop with their super telephotos, while maintaining the integrity of a PRO body out in the elements which a lesser camera (i.e. D7000) might not survive.

        @WoutK89, I hear you about the $, but in DX mode the FPS should be very pleasing on the D800, with the optional vertical grip naturally.

        • WoutK89

          The optional grip will cost me even more $$, so DX would be the best option as I dont have a use for wider angles. So what for to spend double of the D400 to have more pixels I wont even use?

    • Spooky

      What I seriously wonder is how such a high megapixel count will affect the quality of my pictures with “not” top notch lenses.

      I’m sure my 24-70mm 2.8 will have no problem, but I want to buy a wide angle lens, and I don’t want to buy the 14-24mm because I can’t put filters on (well, with a ridiculous setup only and still not all filters). So I thought about buying the new Nikon 16-35mm f/4 lens.

      But I’m really scared what 38MP will do with the image quality of that lens.

      • Sebastian

        higher sensor resolution increases the total system resolution, no matter what the lens resolution is. If the lens resolution is much worse than the sensor’s, that improvement will be very little. But it’s always an improvement.

        On the other hand, noise per pixel will increase. If we neglect read-out noise (which is true these days at nearly all light levels), then the gain in resolution will exactly make up for the loss in signal-to-noise. Suitable filtering can be used to lower the resolution, but increase the signal-to-noise, and so you’re back to where you started. Because the total amount of light that reaches the sensor hasn’t changed.

        but in terms of resolution, the answer is clear: more pixels better resolution, no matter what the lens does.

        • Remedy

          Sebastian: not quite. Image resolution is a result of the imaging combo – the camera and the lens. If one is limiting the other You won’t get benefits (in terms of sharpness) from more resolution (given that the previous cam was getting everything from the lens already). A limit is a limit.

          • Spooky

            Thanks for the info! If I understand you both correctly, then at least when I downsize my images to lets say 18MP, I’ll get at least the same good quality in terms of sharpness/noise as if I would use a camera with 18MP and my lens…. which would be perfect for me – I really don’t need 38MP.

            • Remedy

              Exactly. You scale it down and it’s as if Your cam was 18mpix or whatever You choose. No drama, no “omfg what will it do to the picture quality” nonsense. See all those internet idiot confuse people like You that’s why I get over excited sometimes. I don’t like when misleading informations are spread.

          • Ola

            You are wrong. The limit does not work like that!

            The combined system works out as a multiplication by its components!
            R=S*L
            Where R, S, and L are system Resolution, Sensor res and Lens res. S and L are <1.
            Thus, even if the lens is limiting the resolution by being less than the sensor resolution, the combined system will still be better with a higher resolution sensor.

            • Remedy

              Dude (or dudette) You are talking about theory. From a mathematical point of You are are right, from real world applications You are wrong. So what the overall image is higher resolution if there is no detail in that resolution. Zero benefits hence the statement remains true, You are not getting anything from a high res sensor coupled with crap res lens. Fact.

          • jodjac

            K, sounds like you guys want the quality button to stay…

      • Remedy

        Dude seriously get Your shit straight. WTF are You even talking about? Seems like You joined the “I have no fking clue about the physics and optics bandwagon”. It is gonna DO NOTHING to Your crap lens. If the lens is not as sharp as the best ones all You gonna get is not the sharpest picture (no benefit from the camera’s high resolution). Nothing more. Period. It’s not gonna magically produce black holes, white glows or green goblins.

        • Spooky

          Easy pal, don’t get a heart stroke. I heard a lot about people complaining that you need to have best quality lenses for such a resolution and everybody says a bit something else, but in general they agree that imperfections in cheaper lenses are much more visible with such a resolution.

          Nobody talks from green goblins except you. I asked a normal question, thought that is possible without getting “wtf, crap, fking” xD

          • Remedy

            Sorry, I might have overreacted but I’m kind of sick reading about how unspeakable things high resolution sensor does when coupled with not the best lens.
            To put it in simple words, with crap lens You are not getting the extra benefit from the new, high density resolution. It’s as if You upscaled an image from a smaller size but without all those consequences like jagged lines etc. You are just not getting the per pixel sharpness as You would get with best lenses. The end. Scale down the image to what Your previous camera was spitting out and voila, the same pic.

            • Discontinued

              BS.
              You are not just overreacting to others but apparently far of the truth and physics yourself. Go to DXO and compare the RES of any given lens on different sensors.
              They are all “out-resolved” by any camera in terms of not giving the theoretically possible max. RES of that sensor. And still any lens delivers better results when used on higher RES sensors. And this works vice versa. Sebastian is entirely right here. Even a crappy lens gains on high RES sensors and even crappy sensors gain from high RES lenses. Telling otherwise is the annoying myth here, that get’s spread by uninformed people like you. Doing so you should at least watch your language to make not a complete idiot of yourself. So much for getting ones shit straight.
              Cheers

            • Remedy

              Bravo tard, You just proved You have no fking clue how to read DXO marks and what do they represent. You also don’t seem to grasp the difference between mathematical theory and real world applications. It’s fking obvious that every sensor gains from the better lens – gj Einstein on discovering the wheel again.
              Crap lens however remains crap on any sensor in terms of resolution also. Once again, You don’t have the slightest idea how to read DXO marks hence the idiocy in your claims. Get Your shit straight internet hero.

            • Spooky

              Easy & Cheers :)

            • Discontinued

              Do you know what lp/mm means ?
              Do you know that DXO adjusts all results as if achieved on 35mm FF for better “real life” comparison between different formats like FX and DX ? ?
              Do you have the slightest idea what that means ? ? ?
              Obviously not and despite your insults I am kind enough to tell you, boy.
              Coming to think of insults. No, I am not kind enough and I am not going to reward you with knowledge. Believe what you want and do your homework yourself.

            • JED

              You say yourself it scales the image but without things like jagged edges? So what is causing the jagged edges to go away??????

  • DFive

    I’ll be sad at anything less than 100Mp !!

    Kidding….. lets wait and see….

  • dix

    the coolpix’s AT LEAST should come in yellow. it was a huge disappoint for me when the d4 came out in only 1 colour, and that disappointment will only get worse if the d800 comes in 1 lousy colour as well.

    • Zorro

      Black is not a colour.

      • http://dundermifflin.com dwight shrute

        Oxford Dictionary of English:

        (adjective) of the very darkest colour due to the absence of or complete absorption of light; the opposite of white

        (noun) black colour or pigment

        • WoutK89

          In art class on secondary school I was never allowed to say color for white or black. I was supposed to say contrast.

          • Discontinued

            At least in art or science black is not a color. Of course there is black, grey and white paint. Color is often confused with paint by people and even by dictionaries.

          • http://dundermifflin.com dwight shrute

            In my middle school art class, I was taught that black was a mixture of all the colours combined and white was “the absence of colour”.

            But fuck that, I consider white and black to be colours. If you’re talking about my hair colour, you would say that it’s black. Even on my driver’s license says that it’s black.

            • WoutK89

              In art black is all colors combined, in light black is no colors at all. White light is actually all colors combined. On the PC to get black, all RGB values are set to 0, for white all values are 255. Isnt white all colors, and black no color at all? (pun intended)

      • http://www.robbuckle.co.uk JimBob

        Black IS a colour.

        Colour is comprised of three components: hue, saturation and luminance. Black is a colour with a value for luminance of zero, but a colour it is nonetheless.

    • Jeff

      You can get that in any colour you like, so long as it’s black.

      worked out quite well for Ford: “Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black”

      • Jeff

        BTW, they went on to sell 15 million Model T, all black.

  • Kyle Hunter

    Hopefully we’ll finally get to see that commercial with Mark Miller on the BMW1000rr . . or could that happen during the Superbowl? . . must keep priorities in order D4 for me not D800

  • Mark J.

    Wow, after waiting i can’t even recall anymore how long for the D800, it is now going to get announced on my 30th Birthday. HAPPY BDAY TO ME!

    • Heribert

      You know what, my wife’s Christmas present for me was a self-issued voucher that said: “Go ahead and buy yourself that camera (which one that ever may be) you’ve been talking about for months.” Cool, ey? So I just need to wait for the D800 to finally be available. (Practically that voucher would also be good for a D4 as well, but I still manage to stay reasonable with my expenses.)

      • Emanuele

        I’m sending this post to my wife! :DDD

        • Mike

          + 1

  • S

    I am curious whether the general thinking is that there will be a D4x (a 36mp “pro” version) alongside the D800?

    Basically, do we believe there will only be a D4 and a D800?

    OR

    Will there be a D4, D4x and a D800 (similar to the D3, D3x, D700 line-up now)?

    Just curious as I have read lots about the D800 but nothing about a D4x…

    • A.T.M.

      +1 I am curious about a D4x too!

    • Eric Calabros

      D4x will be 54 mp. :-)

      • WoutK89

        +1, the D4x will do something not seen in a camera until that moment. So using the same sensor as the D800 would eliminate the use of a D4x. Just see the D3x, no other camera received the 24mp sensor in Nikon’s line-up.
        Same goes for the D2x(s). (D40x does not count in this regard, as it was just Nikon’s way to prevent getting short of numbers, the D50 already existed)

    • Jerome

      I’m more curious to known whether there will be a d700s or d800 light edition without all those useless MPs.

      • A.T.M.

        Hey Nikon!! there’s interest in a D4x, you better build it ;)

  • jjoe

    I will likely pass on 36 MPx, half of that and I would have been in. But if the prices on used D700’s dip below $1800 I may bite.

  • frAnk

    I suppose it’s too much to ask for the release date on D800, if it were to be revealed next month?

  • so_this_is_my_d800?

    Admin,

    Any idea on pricing? US$3999? or $3499?

  • Gordon

    My bet is there will be one lens annoucement, it will be a new PC-E 17mm lens.

    • WoutK89

      why 17mm? Just because Canon has 17mm, Nikon should do the same focal length? (Did Nikon ever make an ultra-wide Tilt Shift lens?)

      • Benjo

        No, no one made a 35mm format ultrawide TS lens before Canon’s 17mm.

        16mm, 18mm, whatever, the idea is just any ultrawide PC-E.

  • nz

    “This is a good timing since the CP+ Camera and Photo Imaging shows start on February 9th, 2012 in Japan.”

    Also, the WPPI show opens in Vegas on 16 February.

  • frAnk

    I hope they don’t discontinue the D700, or have a D700x with 18mp. It doesn’t cost much to continue the D700 line, and they can satisfy more customers that way.

    I will take a D700x with 18mp any day over D800 with video. I hate video!

    Only thing prevented me to go back to D700 is the new sensor technologies, they are just getting way better than the current and older sensors. The ones buying D3s and D3x now are in denial about the better sensors.

    • acetothermus

      I agree that video is kind of worthless on an SLR. Sure it’s a neat trick, but I just see it as wasted R&DD money that could have gone into better options. If you want to shoot video go get a real video camera. Don’t tack on ‘features’ just because everyone else is doing it.
      I think 36MP is overkill to say the least. Maybe once they announce it and we see the detailed specs it will become clear.

      • WoutK89

        I think they will earn back the money of R&D in no time. Not just photographers, but now also indie filmmakers will buy this “low-cost” alternative to pro-video equipment.

        • Dr SCSI

          @WoutK89, the only problem I see is those filmmakers in Bollywood already snapped up the Canon gear to fullfill this niche. Nikon’s D4 will REALLY have to deliver the video goods to get existing Canonites to jump ship. As for new productions just starting out, I think they will see they have more options in their DSLR video choices. I personally like photography and yet I am somewhat terrified and intrigued by video. Personally, I would have prefered Nikon to have made a D4 Cine model for those that want it. If I could have the D4 sans video, but $1000 cheaper, I would take it instead of what we have now. I still have a long way ahead in learning as much as I can about photography, thus videography isn’t something I’m interested in at this time.

          • WoutK89

            I think even without the video, the D4 would have been this high(er) price. For what the D4 is, I think the added bonus of video in the price could be considered nice. It has more been a question of when, than if video would ever make into a DSLR, and now the step is made, we have to learn to accept that from now on it will be in all cameras. What is considered a big improvement and selling feature now, will have been downsized in importance with the D5.

    • Andrew

      So people who don’t think the way you do are in denial? How do you know? Such thinking is likely to cloud your judgement and make you unsociable.

    • WoutK89

      Actually it costs them a lot of space to continue producing the D700 alongside the other cameras made in that specific factory (space for stock of parts, space for assembly better used for newer cameras that are more profitable, and so on).
      Don’t count on Nikon making a camera in the pro line-up with sensor number 3 (they don’t have 18MP in their line-up), unless the price will be just as high as a D800.

  • KCL

    Any hint at an AF-S 24mm F1.8G that was mentioned earlier Peter?

    • Earl

      Yeah, it will be the kit lens for the D800. You will get a package discount.

      • WoutK89

        DX lens on an FX body, keep on dreaming. *facepalm*

        What a little bit of searching on NikonRumors gets you…

        “I am also getting some tips that a new Nikkor AF-S 24mm f/1.8G DX (no VR) lens is currently being tested. With the success of the AF-S 35mm f/1.8G DX, I will not be surprised if Nikon releases another DX prime lens.”

        http://nikonrumors.com/2011/12/20/nikon-d400-will-not-be-announced-before-the-d800d4.aspx/

      • http://brandonburtner.com/ Brandon Burtner

        Nikon has now updated their entire f/1.8 series, it seems like the icing on the cake is obviously finishing the series with a 24mm f/1.8. I’m REALLY hoping Nikon is planning on wowing us with this lens (obviously it would be DX). Otherwise, I’m praying the Sigma is either (a) re-making their 24mm f/1.8 with new AF or (b) releasing a more affordable 24mm f/1.4.

  • http://LightIsAllAround.com Miro

    Just speculating:

    What if the rumored D800 specs are specs for D400?!?

    Something like such D400 would be a bridge between DX and FX. It makes sense, in DX crop mode it will be D7000 grade camera.

    And afterwards D800 would be cutted down D4.

    That configuration makes sense from lots of point of view, or not?

    • Bob The Builder

      The D400 is a DX with Nikon designed sensor. It is 16.2 mp and has low light similar to D700 :-)

    • evewarp

      Well, Nikon Rumors has shown pictures of the D800, has shown samples from it, has given specs on it, etc. Everything has been consistent with each other.

      At this point, I’m going with 99.5% that it’ll be the D800 with 36mp. I’m not saying that the D800 will be announced on Feb 7, but with all the leaks, the D800’s specs are basically 100% certain.

    • Andrew

      “What if the rumored D800 specs are specs for D400?!?

      It just cannot be, 36 MP is high-end specs for studio photographers who don’t care about high ISO and some landscape photographers. The rumored price of around $3,500 for the D800 is in line with a camera of this caliber. With these specs, it is the perfect replacement for the D3x which had 24 MP and was selling for $8,000. It’s ISO performance will definitely match or better that of the D3x. It will give those who invested in the D3x everything they could hope for and more in an upgrade, plus an awesome price. It’s a win win.

      The D400 is a D300 replacement which was introduced at around $1,800, there is no way the D400 will have a 36 MP, full frame sensor. The D400 will likely get a 16 MP DX sensor like the D7000 but in a bigger body and will also be priced around $1,800. So its ISO performance will be the same as that of the D7000, but better than the D300.

      It is likely that Nikon will introduce an entirely new model to replace the D700 (maybe called D9000) that is priced at between $2,495 and $2,995. This camera will most likely have a full frame sensor that is 24 MP back-illuminated. This camera may improve on the ISO performance of the D700. It will be awesome if they introduce this camera in a big (i.e. D700) and small (i.e. D7000) sized body. I would prefer a small sized body.

      • WoutK89

        Andrew, where do you get this back-illuminated thing from?

        And also it would not at all make sense for Nikon to name an FX camera in the Dxx00 range, I would rather believe the D400 to be D9000 so all the DX bodies are in the same numbering range, where higher means better (more expensive, more features). And then the D400, D500, and D600 are open for “low” cost FX (or just dicarded all together as with the D10, D20, D30).

        • Andrew

          Google “back illuminated” and then click on Wikipedia.

          • WoutK89

            But which DSLRs already have a BSI sensor, you still didnt answer the question. The point is, BSI is something that works best on smaller sensor where the pixel pitch is too small to capture light without introducing a lot of noise. I know what BSI is, but I didnt know you know more than Nikon about what they use in their cameras.

    • http://brandonburtner.com/ Brandon Burtner

      That wouldn’t make any sense. The D100, D200, D300 line is really made for photojournalists. In fact – the need for a photojournalist to get in close is why we are not going to lose the DX format on this line any time soon, we need the crop factor. A 36MP sensor is basically not usable for most photojournalists. The images would have to be dramatically scaled down for print, and the file sizes would be overwhelming.

  • LaHiru

    If the D800, spec’s are what in has been rumored . Do you guys think that D700 price would decrees?

    • Anon

      D700 will extinct. It will be discontinued (already?), and those second-hand D700s are expensive because of it vintage value.

      Hahahaha.. just to scare you.

    • Andrew

      I think any prediction of the D700 price will be total speculation. Based upon the discussions, it appears that the D700 is still quite popular, so its price is likely to remain the same.

      Nikon Rumors has not given us any information to suggest that a true D700 replacement is imminent. Many people believe that Nikon will most likely announce a D400 replacement after the recent announcement of the D4. You have to take into consideration that the D700 was released about one year after the D3, and the D700 was nearly identical to the D3 except the size. So if a D700 replacement is to come out that is likewise identical to the D4 but smaller in size, we may be looking at next year at the closest. If that is the case, the price of the D700 will not come down anytime soon. Even if it does eventually come down, the question will be by how much?

      • LaHiru

        +1

      • LaHiru

        So even after D800 is announced… people will be whining for a long time to come…

        • Funduro

          I suspect you’re correct. Someone will complain that a certain button is 1 mm from the ideal location. Then other whiners will complain about every little thing.

        • Carsten

          they will whine until its technology is aged and start whining why Nikon is holding back the D900

        • Andrew

          Correct. Many people have said that the D800 does not satisfy their need for a D700 replacement, and the D4 – though perfect, is too expensive (though I think it is worth every penny). So they would like to see a lower cost version of the D4. I do not think that this time around, Nikon will give the D700 replacement the same sensor as the D4 in order not to affect the sales of the D4 ( as they did when they gave the D700 the same sensor as the D3). That is why I think Nikon will put a 24 MP sensor in the D700 replacement.

          • Andrew

            If Nikon decides to give us a D4 sensor in a D700 replacement, it will be a stunning accomplishment. Their competitive position at the top of the photographic world would not be threatened for years to come. This will result in more sales across their entire product line as passionate photographers everywhere will be singing the praise of Nikon. To do this, the ISO performance and video performance has to match that of the D4, but at a significantly lower price.

            • St.

              +100000000000000000

      • Discontinued

        >>Nikon will most likely announce a D400 replacement<>You have to take into consideration that the D700 was released about one year after the D3<< Don't you read a little too much into that "pattern"? There have been all sorts of splits in their lineup into high RES or speedy cameras and even different formats. I do not think Nikon will stick to non-existing release patterns, just because some can't imagine otherwise.

      • http://rearrangedphoto.tumblr.com rearranged

        The D700 won’t drop substantually in price before a real successor is there. And the d800 can not be seen as a successor having 36 mp. My guess would be a ”d800h” or ”d710” announced in January 2013 with the d4 sensor and 8fps etc. That’s when we’re going to see lot’s of used d700s flooding the used market.

    • freakout

      Sure – not only because of the specs, but mainly because of the price – all those who just want a fullframe digital body to make proper use of their 20+ years glass have no more <$2500 way to go. Big fault of Nikon – they let the Canon 5D alone in this segment – which can use Nikon glass with adapter.

  • vyaktha

    I am a newbie. Looking at the specs of the d800 and d4, only difference seems to be ISO and FPS. I am guessing the ISO performance that d4 offers is mainly through noise removing algos within d4 which can be achieved off camera as well, esp considering the 36 Mp. correct me if I am wrong.

    Assuming above is right is the extra 2k just for the FPS and Ethernet port?

    • Bob Your Thing

      No!

      The D4 superior ISO against the D800 is mainly from the larger size of the pixel which collects more light than a smaller pixel which means less noise. There might be other technology applied to further enhance the ISO performance of the D4 but they will not be through just noise removing algorithms but with physical improvements like a special coating on the sensor pixel…etc

      • Anon

        Err.. that is not totally correct. Given the same sensor size, where does the light go in the higher MP sensor? Absorbed by the sensor wall? I believe both type of sensors use microlens, so they gather the same amount of light.

        The only reason that I can think of what causes the extra noise on higher MP sensor is because it has more electronic component in it. Each pixel containing a photodetector and an active amplifier, more pixel means more electronic. More electronic means more noise. But that is just my unscientific speculation.

        • Andrew

          Anon, I am certain you are absolutely wrong. The smaller MP count in the D4 sensor (16.2 MP) means much better low light performance than the D800 sensor (36 MP). Both sensors are back-illuminated. What that means is that the electronics which used to occupy approximately half the surface area of the sensor has been moved to a layer below the sensor. What this means is that light now falls on the entire surface of the sensor and is no longer blocked by the electronics. The individual pixels in the D4 sensor are larger than the pixels in the D800 sensors, because the D800 crams a lot more pixels on the same sensor surface area as the D4. The bottom line is that the ISO performance of the D800 will be significantly lower than the D4. That is one of the main reasons why the D4 cost more and is a better camera if you do not care for an extremely high MP.

          • WoutK89

            Can you show me a link where it says the cameras are BSI sensors?

            And I guess Anon is not absolutely wrong.

    • Andrew

      No wrong, the significantly higher low light performance of the D4 is because its sensor has a lower MP count (16 MP) than the D800 which is 36 MP. Each pixel in the D4 is larger than the pixel in the D800. So the D4 collects more light.

      Think of a room that has a very small window versus another room of the same size that has a much larger window. Now if all the light in the room is coming from outside, which room do you think will be well lit up? Of course the room with the larger window. That is the reason why the D4 sensor is superior for low light performance than the D800 sensor.

      With the D4, many photographers will no longer be using flash. Flash can light up an image, but you will lose the atmosphere. Imagine taking a picture in a room that is lit up by a candle, would you want to use flash? Given the choice, I would select the D4.

      • WoutK89

        Your comparing apples to oranges. A room that has one window consisting of 16 windows, or 36 windows, will light up the room with the same amount of light, given that both share the same frame in which to put the smaller windows. So, please explain, why would the one with 36 windows be darker?

        • OsoSolitario

          … because windows have frames (like sensor photodiodes have).
          Do you think 2 micron sized photodiode can reach the same light as 4 micron one? NO of course! Because that, a 16 Mpix point and shot cameras is always MUCH MORE noisy than a camera with the same number of megapixels but with a FX sensor!
          36 small speakers CAN’T neither give the sub bass level than one big subwoofer that has the same surface cone as the 36 ones!!

          • WoutK89

            Ahum, to my knowledge, no matter how big the smaller windows are, the light will always cover the same amount in the room, as long as the frame in which you place the windows doesnt not grow or shrink (and frame is 3 meter by 2 meter for example). But a window is the worst way of showing how a light collecting sensor works. A window lets light through, a sensor collects. I know in theory smaller cant be the same as 1 big, but in case of a window it doesnt matter.

            • Eric Calabros

              36mp sensor has far more Dark Current than a 16mp one. google it

            • WoutK89

              Do you even read the discussion, I am speaking of the window, not the sensor!

        • nobody

          Excellent analogy!

          • http://www.gregmillerphotography.com Greg M

            You guys are all wrong. Think of it in this simplified way. The D4 will have 1 pixel occupying the same space as 2 pixels on the D800. So the D4 can turn the pixel from “off” to “on” when 2 photons strike it. The D800 will have to have spread those 2 photons over 2 pixels, so those pixels will turn to “on” when only one photon strikes them. Now introduce some noise. If the D800 pixel encounters noise, then it turns “on”. But the D4 requires 2 photons to turn “on”, so will require 2x the noise to turn “on. Therefore the D4 signal to noise ratio is much better than for the D800. Which – much cleaner photos and much better high ISO and low-c=light performance..

            • WoutK89

              I know how sensors work, and sensor are not like windows. That’s what I tried to show. A window will always let light through, a sensor needs to collect light.

        • Andrew

          WoutK89, you have missed the point of the Windows analogy and as a result, in your next comment below, you stated that using the Windows analogy is like comparing apples with oranges. It is not! What you are missing is the pixel size. The larger the sensor at the same resolution, the larger the pixel. Therefore, a larger pixel will collect more light than a smaller pixel, hence the Windows analogy!

          If the D800 is using the same sensor technology as the D4, and both are full frame, but the D800 have a 36 MP sensor versus the D4 with 16.2 MP sensor, the pixel size of the D4 sensor will be significantly larger than the pixel size of the D800 sensor, hence the D4 sensor will collect more light per pixel and will consequently have a better low light performance. Conclusion: the D4 ISO range will be higher than the D800 ISO range.

          • WoutK89

            I know pixel size, I know sensor size, but you compared a D800 (1 small window) to a D4 (1 bigger window) to light a room. Both sensors would actually be the same size window and receive the same amount of light and let through the same amount of light… But how each sensor uses this light is different, not how much light they receive.

  • Moe Jacknally

    @vyaktha: you’ll get a nice camera strap with a “D4″ printed on it……

  • dff

    krishna

  • vyaktha

    @Moe I can buy the strap alone then , hope it doesnt cost me 2k.

  • Todd

    80-400mm Replacement PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Chris P

      +1 0n that. My D700 isn’t going to leave me anytime soon, but the Sigma 120-400 would be gone shortly after a new 80-400 appeared.

    • http://wildbirdy.com Michelle

      +1 for me!!!!! Or 100-400, or 120-450 f4-5.6 pleeeeeeze!!!!!

  • http://IslandNature.ca Dave

    Hoping it’s a D800 …. and a price drop on the D700 : )

  • BAyJy

    can’t wait for the new coolpix!!

    • BartyL

      You and millions of others, nothing wrong with that. Sales of Coolpix supports the R&D effort for the ‘serious’ cameras.

      Yes, I realise you were probably being humorous, but I have dirty confession to make.

      Want to hear it? No? Well here it is anyway.

      Somewhere amidst the recent fury and noise surrounding the advent of a certain $7K camerasaur I started to have an odd thought: what if a DSLR wasn’t actually required to meet my photographic needs? What if something simpler, smaller and cheaper could do the job – commercial product and pet shoots for websites and casual landscape and abstract work that will probably only ever be viewed on a monitor? What if I didn’t have to spend needless hours and commit needless dollars to cart around a giant camera and bag of lenses? What if I could get off the grinding treadmill of techno-lust and envy and improve my profit margins? What if I could achieve acceptable results with a M4/3 or the next iteration of the Nikon 1 series or, or … I can barely write it …… a P7100?

      Yes, I’m sorry. I’ll see my doctor tomorrow and start taking my medication again, I promise.

      • John

        Just stay calm! Take deep slow breaths! Get back on your meds gradually, get some bed rest, all of this speculation and rumors has upset you. Call in the morning, if not any better paramedics will be rushed to you!

      • Carsten

        This isn’t such an insane thought. I figured for me that DX is perfect for the photography I do.
        I surely appreciate a larger viewfinder, but it doesn’t take pictures. DoF is under control in the range I need it, DR is good enough for anything printable.
        4/3 failed in my book, but it might be different for others. I like to upgrade to a D400 to get a top-notch AF, full sealing.
        Anyway, it is amusing to hear the many voices that hold out desperately for the Dxyz because they hope to find in a new model the revelation, the answer to all their problems. Sorry, it is not gonna happen, there will be always something in model X that model Y does “better”.
        Retrace your steps to find out what better means for you

  • Green Pattern

    D800 and D400…..it’s about time !!

  • Zoron

    from D800 leaked pics…….why is the D800 eyepiece is so different from D4…i know D800 got flash to fit….but its so rectangularish rigid……awfull

  • nobody

    “At that point I am not sure if there will be also a new lens announced on that date.!

    Yes, my 70-200 f4 please! Finally!

  • http://Www.Bogdansandulescu.Ro Fotograf Iasi

    D800 in february? I dont think so; maybe D400.

    • WoutK89

      D800, D400 has no leaks, and there is no need to get that out the door before a specific season. Wedding season is over at Photokina, so better to announce the D800 now.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/subhrashis busynbored

        Wouldn’t you be worried about using a D400 in rain if it had leaks ?

        ;P

        • WoutK89

          As long as it leaks, it goes out, and not in ;)

    • nobody

      Where there is no smoke, there is no fire!

  • Cameramm

    I would like to compare Big Pixels from a d4 counted up by Photoshop against native Small Pixels from a d800. … Not sure about the outcome … Even at normal iso! i have a Print 70*100 cm from a Canon d2000 from 1999 with 2 mp RAW , still Looks good!

  • joe b low

    Awesome. As soon as the D800 is announced all the DX users who never bought the D700 and have been bitching about the D800 for ages can start bithcing about the D900 – that they also won’t buy, but REALLY need. Really looking forward to that.

  • Black&red

    Any thoughts as to whether it will be WT-5 compatible and have the D4 web interface?

  • Thomas

    I bet this is a 18MP based chip core camera and just upsized to 36MP to please the pixel counter monkeys. After all, even the Red Epic has “only” 14MP pixel chip in it, and is plenty enough.

  • http://www.euerfotograf.de Hochzeitsfotograf

    That would be too good to be true. I need a new camera for the coming wedding season. Please, Nikon, Please… Hochzeitsfotograf Düsseldorf

  • http://www.mrphotography.com.au MRPhotoau

    Gotta second the 17mm PC-E. please
    Just to match up with the new landscape camera.

    • Dr Motmot

      Bets on lenses:
      1. 80-400mm
      2. 300mm f4 VR
      3. 17mm PC-E
      4. 180 or 200mm macro
      5. 70-200mm f4

      • WoutK89

        24/1.8 DX, 16-85/4 DX, 18-300/3.5-5.6 DX
        180/2.8, 105/2.0, 135/2.0, 16/2.8 fisheye

      • Todd

        Well I REALLY hope the 80-400mm replacement comes soon!

        • Peter

          You’re not the only one!

    • Benjo

      Ooooooh, 17 PC-E…

      I’d prioritize that over the D800 in my acquisition list…

  • lagranz

    D800 sensor is made by kodak?

    • Jonas

      Kodak doesen’t produce sensors any more.

      • KnightPhoto

        Kodak still produces the Leica M9, Leica S2, and various medium format sensors.

  • Patrik

    No way they are gonna release the D800, or whatever it´s gonna be called, since the D4 isn´t physically out there yet.
    The D4 needs to land and people need to buy it first for quite some time before they release the D800.
    Well, they are not playing in the same league but they are definitely in the same ballpark. People that think money is an issue is gonna buy the cheaper one and Nikon would shoot themselves in the foot if they release the D800 so close to the D4.

    • WoutK89

      People that NEED the D4 will buy the D4, there is no way people that need something like a D4 will buy a D800 just because of cost. If the specs remain as they are on the D800, it is too slow, has too large files and probably many more reasons (people that needed a D3 didn’t buy a D700 when they had the choice).

    • Ant

      I don’t think so. It would have been true with the D3 and D700, but the D800 is so different from the D4 (assuming NR is correct) I would be surprised if it cannibalized any of its sales.

  • Psycho McCrazy

    If the D800 does get announced on 7th, just two days before the CP+, I hope to be able to get a hands on feel! Just registered for the CP+ yesterday (general visitor online registration for entry fee waiver)!

  • http://richardcromptonphotography.com RichM0nster

    36Mp – bring it on! If the high ISO is as good as my D7000, great! If not, I don’t really care! I will be mostly using it for what it is intended. Highly detailed studio and landscape images. I’d love a D4 too though!

  • saillemone

    Don’t understand : D800 would be a D4 with MP * 2 and price / 2 ??
    Where is the trick ? Plastic body or shutter limited to 240 shoots for D800 ??
    I don’t understand….

    • WoutK89

      D800 is a smaller body, you have to buy the external grip for more fps and longer battery life and portrait shutter… The D800 has a built-in flash, so the viewfinder will be or lower magnification with 100% coverage or less than 100% coverage but bigger magnification. The D800 will have less connection ports is my guess. With this, there are many more differences. Just see the difference D3(s) and D700 (keeping the sensor and D3s video out of the comparison).

      • saillemone

        Thanks for your analyse but it seems to me that it is a very different “contest” with the D700/D3 than with D800/D4 :
        – D700 came 8 months after D3 and not at the same time
        – the price of D700 was not the half of the D3
        – they have the same sensor and not MP * 2

        • Ant

          It doesn’t really cost more to manufacture a 36mp FX sensor than it does to make a 16mp FX sensor. The crucial point is the yield you would get out of a CMOS wafer. Other stuff like ethernet ports and more expensive processors with larger buffer add more cost to the electronics than increasing the mp count of the sensor.

          But pricing isn’t just about the cost to make the product, it’s mainly about finding the maximum price that your customers would be willing to pay. Making sure the cost fits into that and delivers a tidy margin for the channel is the job of the designers and buyers.

          • nobody

            And if the 16mp D4 sensor is a Nikon developed one, which will be made in lower quantities, while the 36mp D800 sensor -as rumoured- is a modified Sony sensor made in higher quantities, it may well be that the 36mp sensor turns out to be the cheaper one for Nikon.

  • Bahrd

    There is no reason to exclude an XQD card slot (accompanied by a CF/SD one) in D800, is it?

    • BartyL

      Other than that it’s a complete pain in the arse to have mixed card types in the one camera, no.

      • MJr

        Can’t stay behind. Too early for dual-XQD. So it’s gonna be mixin’.

      • John

        While it is a pain in the ass now, the XQD will be better especially for video, the D4s will have dual XQD and all will be fine. There is sometimes a price to pay for early adoption, but those early adopters are glad to pay it. You will need these new cards going forward.

    • Carsten

      My bet is more on single XQD – I find the knee-jerk compromise in the D4 pathetic – had Nikon been afraid Sony won’t deliver?

      I don’t think the D800 will see the market in the next 6 months, if it is just a small D4 not even in the next 12 months.

      If it comes earlier then only because to fill a gap in the media stream caused by the Thailand flooding that stalled the D400

    • KL

      Maybe physical space constraints.

  • davis555

    a lot of people need the NEW D90 or D7000 with AF motor for old autofocus lenses…

    16-24mpx in DX factor IMHO is the only way for obtain a Human Price seriously different from the D4…

  • ggweci

    So, if there are any lens announcements, could one of those be the rumored 16-85 f4 DX lens?

  • lopi

    d800 is going to have 16 mp.. 16.3 or 16.5

  • http://www.petertexiera.com Pete

    I would not be surprised if Nikon does announce a D300s replacement, even though specs are leaked and sample images have been found about the D800, do we think they would introduce another New FX camera?, only 1 month after their flagship model?? How much of the market share do FX cameras have? The D7000 has been around for a while now, and the D300s is long overdue, i see a lot more DX cameras on the street than FX, so there is definitely a consumer base for it. Marketing wise I feel it makes sense to hit the market with a New DX top of the line, and fill that gap. We’ll just have to wait and see. Maybe its just wishful thinking b/c when the 400 comes out, i’m on it. Wish i had the funds for an 800, but we are in a recession after all.

    • WoutK89

      There are few things not correct, 1) the cameras were delayed, so Nikon just wants to get out the door what they have, before it becomes outdated. 2) DX cameras you see in the street I assume are not the D200, D300(s) but more D90 and lower, and some D7000. So getting a new DX flagship out the door would not change what you see in the street (same as a new FX). 3) the D7000 is due for update in september at earliest. The cycle for that series has been 2 years, and the D7000 is not even 1,5 years old. 4) market share of FX is mainly professional, and they are plenty, but you have to know where to look for them (studios and big events like sporting events, political events are the best places to search)

  • Gotcha

    D90 and D7000 already have a built in AF motor!

  • frazi

    1dX will beat out the shitty d4

    • FX DX

      If you are so certain, what the fuck are you doing on NR?

      • BartyL

        Digging for responses like that. Don’t feed them.

  • Ant

    D800 announced together with Coolpix?

    I’m sure it’ll be fun to see the Coolpix and Pro-Camera Nikon Product Marketing people scrapping over journalists’ attention, but I’m not sure that Nikon would want to compete with itself for press coverage.

    • WoutK89

      Admin is speaking of time frame, not actual same announcement. So far Nikon has had two announcements if there were things to announce besides Coolpix.

      • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

        Yes, announcement dates are a tough one – they vary from country to country and even from product to product – some products are introduced later in some markets. For now I have information from one country only, I will be more confident once this date is confirmed from at least one more country. I feel pretty confident that there will be new Nikon products introduced in the first week of February, Coolpix cameras for sure, maybe the D800 as well – note that in the post I mentioned “probably”.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      I said “probably”, if they announce the D800, there will probably be 2 events few days apart.

  • Phill

    What is really missing is a wide angle prime for DX to complement the 35mm f1.8 and the new 85mm f1.8G. I hope Nikon will ( finally) do the right thing.

    • nobody

      I fully understand your sentiment, but a modern fast FX wide angle that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg is missing as well.

      I can imagine an FX 28mm f1.8 or f2 would sell very well to people who consider the 24 and 35mm f1.4 lenses too big, too heavy, and too costly.

      • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

        My vote is for a 24mm f/2 or f/1.8. It would also appeal to those who use 28-70 or 28-75 zooms rather than the newer 24-70.

        • GeofFx

          I’d be very happy with a 24mm f2.8. Especially if making it 1.8 is going to increase the weight, size or price by much.

          For wide angle lenses, I don’t need anything faster than 2.8 and I’m not looking for a bokeh machine.

          For those that really want/need a fast 24mm, there is the 1.4 already.

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