What to expect from Nikon’s announcement this week (three lenses and one Coolpix camera)


Here are the new Nikon products rumored to be announced later this week:

More to come, stay tuned.

Update: the prices of the three new lenses can be found here.

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  • Plug

    The fisheye is intriguing. I have been holding back since you first hinted of a zoom a long while back now. Not an essential lens but hopefully great fun.

  • Scenic Spartan

    Really curious about that wide angle DX lens. With the new Tamron 10-24 VC ($500) , Id have a hard time finding anyone who would buy Nikon’s old 10-24 ($900) given how similar they perform.

    • The Tamron sounds like a great deal, it’s also the only UWA for DX which also has VR/VC.

      • James Jackson

        I own the new tamron. It’s fucking incredible. Nikon better delivery hard to beat it. It’s sharp, gorgeous, silent fast accurate af, best vc I’ve seen. Almost no flare or cas at all. Incredible lens.

        • pedantic_brit

          I bought one too and am very happy with it but the Nikon is 2/3 of the price and while no fan of the plastic mount I love the 70-300 AF-P VR – sharp, fast to focus and very quiet. High hopes for the 10-20.

    • Plug

      A slightly lesser zoom range, perhaps that indicates a faster, fixed maximum aperture and image quality in line with newer sensors. That would make it interesting.

      • Scenic Spartan

        That would be neat. Then it would kind of be like a Tokina lens, which are very popular among crop sensor camera users.

    • Allen_Wentz

      The existing 12-24mm plus with the 10.5mm converted to rectilinear in post stood me very well back in the D2x days. Today the 10-20mm would a much better DX range than 12-24mm is. Probably I should sell both the 12-24mm and the 10.5mm quickly but I have been happy with the glass, even using the 12-24mm on the FX D3.

      IMO photogs wanting higher IQ at WA today should generally be investing in FX rather than seeking expensive WA DX glass.My guess is that a DX 10-20mm would be marketed to photogs with lesser needs and therefore would need to be cheaper than the US$1105 12-24mm is.

      • PhilK

        If you don’t mind getting a little less for your used lens you can sell it to a used camera broker like KEH or B&H etc.

        I’ve also bought/sold a number of things on craigslist over the years. (Helps to be in a major metro area where there is a decent population of potential buyers)

        You can also sell used stuff via Amazon.

        • ZoetMB

          I find Craigslist to be worse than useless. People either don’t show up (after you beg them to text, call or email if they change their minds) or show up and then try to re-negotiate.

          • PhilK

            That’s a problem in general these days but I have been reasonably successful engineering that exchange to minimize that. (Combination of asking the right questions, making the right demands and not traveling far from home to meet so it doesn’t waste even more of my time if they flake etc.)

      • Sebastian

        Sure, better iq is to be had with fx at wide angles, but only part of that is due to the larger sensor. The rest, as far as Nikon lenses are concerned, is due to the lack of lenses. That part Nikon has to stop. The top UWA zooms these days are all third-party. Nikon is leaving money on the table, plus giving the impression of an incomplete system.

      • pedantic_brit

        fredmiranda.com has a good buy/sell forum but starting out is tough – people can be a little leery of newcomers.

    • Fiatlux

      Well, Nikon already has a 10-24 DX and still sells the 12-24 DX too. I’m not sure they absolutely need another wide angle zoom. A better one for the D500 or a cheaper AF-P one for the entry-level bodies?

  • Definitely looking forward to the 28mm f/1.4!!

    • Plug

      I hope it presages the updating of the 1.4 24 and 35 wideangles which, designed for 12 megapixel sensors, are out-performed by newer competitors and anyway need to be updated to E versions to be more video friendly.

    • CBJ

      Hopefully it will good and create a Bokeh Trinity of 28 58 and 105.

    • zzzxtreme

      Will the 28mm cost less than nikon 1 32mm f/1.2?

      Would be a neat alternative to the pricey 32mm

  • Lu Jia Xiang

    Damm. I’m looking forward to the sucessor for p900…

    • it’s still coming but probably not this week

  • SPshooter

    Nothing special

    • Fly Moon

      Unless you need or want those cameras/lenses!

      • SPshooter

        The need & want for those item is just a tiny dot on market share for dslr, Nikon just wanna protect it existing customers from trying other compact camera brands only.

        • Fly Moon

          How the f… do you know? Owning a couple of cameras and a bunch of lenses doesn’t make you a market expert and researcher!

          • SPshooter

            Then how the f… do you know? Stating nothing & talk full of sh.t on others doesn’t make you a market expert & researcher either dude!

    • paige4o4

      A zoom fisheye is pretty special. Only one other lens like that on the planet (from Canon).

      • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

        Hope it is FF.

      • Miguel Aleixo

        Or Tokina 10-17 (DX).

      • SPshooter

        Fisheye lens is for unique kind of photographer desire but not my kind of cup of tea.

  • Marc Casanovas

    Nikon 8-15mm fisheye 3.5?

    • I think they had a similar patent – I have to search for it.

  • animalsbybarry

    Peter
    You mentioned in a recent rumor a coolpix with a 24-3000 mm equivelent lens
    Is this the new coolpix coming out (P900 replacement) ?

    • yes, it is still coming but I don’t think it will be announced this week

  • Richard Haw

    oh, please give me a digital SP…I am getting impatient!

    • I am there with you on that one.

    • PhilK

      Thirded.

      But a pity that it would not be as compact as possible with F-mount lenses on the front.. especially the bloated AF versions.

    • Thylmuc

      or at least a digital back for the F2 or F3.
      won’t happen either 🙁

  • Ryan Torres

    so a bunch of crap

  • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

    The lenses look interesting; still don’t agree with Nikon’s reason of cancelling the DL series

    • I think they will bring the DL back.

      • Eric Calabros

        With a m43 sensor will be epic return.

        • APS-C will be even better 🙂

          • Eric Calabros

            They tried that before, with even a simple small fixed prime lens the price was $1000. How much it goes up with a 16-50 equivalent lens? They need something in $800 range.

            • yes, the price of the Coolpix A was insane but this was many years ago, maybe they can do better now

      • Allen_Wentz

        Certainly Nikon invested a lot of R&D in DL. The fact that DL turned out wrong for them for whatever reasons does not mean that all that R&D should not be redirected.

        Nikon can survive DL as long as they do not do vaporware marketing again anytime soon.

        • I think they even hinted something similar at one of their interviews.

          • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

            True but the DL series should have been done and earlier abeit with specs at that time after the announcement of the first iteration of the Sony Rx100.

            • If Nikon wanted to be a leader in the market, they should have announced the DL cameras before the Sony RX100.

  • nwcs

    Definitely not the bold move to recapture hearts and minds in Nikon’s future. I’m sure side of these had been in the hopper for a while but they won’t likely make a big splash.

  • Where’s Hogan? Buzz buzz 🙂

    • sickheadache

      Seen him over at SAR…Yesterday.

      • Fly Moon

        Is he switching to Sony?

        • sickheadache

          he is stirring the pot over there. No…A9 has heating issues and no pro lenses. And sure looks good on paper.

          • So, what’s new? 🙂

            • sickheadache

              They all over at SAR got their Panties Bunched UP…Even Tony Northrup is over there explaining about the over heating issues of all Sony products….like it now has it’s own Grassy Knoll Theory going on. Is it me…but don’t these guys over at Sony and some other camera producing facility…do any type of ..let’s say..TESTING? 1.2.3?

            • Again, what’s new – this is what, the 3rd or 4th Sony camera that is overheating? I am sure in few more years Sony will finally get it right… I will be able to play with the a9 next week and I live in Florida…. lol

            • sickheadache

              U know…This is one of the main reasons I never could get on board with Sony… While Nikon had Oil Issues, Canon got muddy and cloudy sensors, Sony got this recurring issue of major quality control. And it continues with several models. I was truly interested in the Sony A7rll…but one card slot, and focusing, and start up time, heating issues, shutting down issues, battery issues…and on and on. For a Professional Camera that cost over 3 Grand..Do I need those type of issues? Matt Granger said that he was recording video 4K..and bam the whole camera just stopped and the card wiped out what was recorded. Really? Sony? He also said..that the Sony A7rll would just stop. He would have to wait for it to reboot.

            • Wow, have not seen that video from Matt…

            • Fly Moon

              Yeah. He ditched his A7R2.
              I ditched mine as well. Stopped working for 1/2 day when I was on a workshop in South America!! Besides, I hated its ergonomics!

            • Oh yes, the ergonomics is bad. Not buying into this madness just because is trendy. No surprise people are ditching them.

            • Fly Moon

              For me they are too small to handle probably. I just bought a new D810 from buydig.com.
              @Peter, I tried to use your code NIKONRUMORS, but it said it’s expired.

            • Did you buy it already? I can ask them if they can extend the code. Did you try this: https://nikonrumors.com/2017/05/01/exclusive-deal-for-nr-readers-refurbished-nikon-d810-camera-for-2049.aspx/

            • Fly Moon

              I got it yesterday! It’s brand new and came with the grip for $2500.

              For future purchase, maybe you can add them. I live in NY and I saved more than $200 because of sales taxes. buydig.com doesn’t collect taxes outside NJ. I buy the smaller stuff from Adorama and BH.

            • did not think of that – will start adding a link, please remind me if I forget

            • Fly Moon

              I will

            • sickheadache

              Matt also while living in Australia…that the Sony Support System was like a big ol O there. A Big Nothing..it was hard to get answers to the problems of the Sony A7rll.

            • sickheadache

              I believe it when Matt was in Peru…he had taken some pictures and doing a 4K video about his thoughts on the trip and Sony’s A7rll..and he said..if my memory is correct..that he THOUGHT the camera was recording…to realize after 20 minutes or so..it had stopped and cleared out what he had done…if my memory is correct. But he also had said that the camera would just completely stop…and he would have to either wait for it to decide what was going on..or reboot itself…Now tell that to Models you are shooting..or Wild Life..and on and on.

            • PhilK

              Egads.

            • BVS

              Perhaps this is a lesson in why Nikon shouldn’t rush to release a ‘large sensor’ mirrorless until it’s fully ready. Of course they can’t wait forever, but better a solid product later than one with a bunch of issues now.

            • and this probably exactly what they are doing

            • sickheadache

              Yeah..U got it right…Nikon is waiting 4 …get that…Four Plus years in getting this Mirrorless Full Frame Just Right. Sarcasm.

          • Fly Moon

            Cool.
            By the way, SAR admin is the most obnoxious admin of all photo/camera rumour sites.

            NR is the best.

            • sickheadache

              Yeah..whomever runs that site is truly Thin’d Skinned and got a stick up his butt. They have kicked me out of there a couple of times. lol

            • You cannot say a bad word about Sony. How dare you? 🙂

            • sickheadache

              Yeah..that mentality level is over there.

            • Fly Moon

              I am banned forever there 🙂

            • Lol, me too I think

            • sickheadache

              Me Twice!

            • Again, what else is new? 🙂

              If any of you guys are interested in Sony, you should check http://sonyaddict.com/ . There are better options then SAR out there – many people just don’t know it.
              For Fuji I can recomend https://fujiaddict.com/

          • Aldo

            damn… I was cheering for that camera…

            • sickheadache

              I was saying..Wait..Wait..Wait..it’s coming the true Sony A9 would show up soon. Heating Issues…So hot..it can fry bacon.

            • Aldo

              It’s not funny anymore… it’s like beating a dead horse… even from a Nikon user’s perspective.

            • Thom Hogan

              Let’s not exaggerate.

              One of the things I had to buy lately is a set of devices that allow me to measure real temperatures (and compare them to what the Sony is writing in the EXIF). Then I have to run correlation tests of heat and noise…and much more. I trust data more than forum posts ;~)

            • zzzxtreme

              Me too

          • Thom Hogan

            Ironically, I’m not stirring the pot over there at the moment. I seem to be in middle ground between two warring factions.

            The A9’s abilities were over-hyped. The liabilities are over-hyped. Reality lives somewhere in the middle, as usual.

            I’m not sure what Sony is up to. Just when I thought they had a clear forward strategy, we get two cameras from them that seem to be in competition with each other.

          • TwoStrayCats

            That’s so Ken Raber can keep his hands warm when he takes it to Antartica.

            • sickheadache

              That’s It…Sony was planning this all along. A Camera that is a Toasty Hand Warmer. Brilliant Sony! Sony Humps like Jason Lanier Rejoice.

  • Spy Black

    Two more months. If nothing really groundbreaking happens on the 100th, I’m gong to have a bad feeling about Nikon.

    • Allan

      I’m guessing that the “groundbreaking” stuff might only be released in 2018; they might announce it in two months. But after the cancellation of the DL’s, they might be gun shy about making a too early announcement.

      • Spy Black

        Perhaps “groundbreaking’ was the wrong word, but certainly something to make people stand up and notice like they did with the D3, D800, and D500. It doesn’t need to be released at that time, simply announced. It should however be released before the holiday season.

        • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

          However after the DL fiasco doubt Nikon will ever do this again.

          • Spy Black

            I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Nikon can’t put things off forever, and their anniversary is a perfect time for them to show the world where they are heading in the future.

      • Thom Hogan

        Personally, I would have planned a period where “we celebrate the past” followed by a period where “we launch the future.” But I would have also said that’s what we’re going to do from day one.

    • MB

      Name one groundbreaking thing Nikon has done in the last 50 years … or ever .., Nikon is not groundbreaking company IMHO, but they managed to do regular things better… let’s hope they will manage to do that again…

      • Allen_Wentz

        Not to argue with your premise, but at the time I thought D2x and D3 were both groundbreaking.

        • Bob Thane

          The D5 is certainly just as groundbreaking as the D3, in my opinion.

        • MB

          They were great cameras but if I recall correctly introduced after and in response to Canon 1d and 1ds mark ii, although definitely better … IMHO D3 was the most successful DSLR so far … it was way ahead anything available at the time… something not done by anyone lately…

      • ZoetMB

        You don’t have to be the first to be groundbreaking – but you have to do it better and/or at a better price. Nikon did that with the original rangefinders and they did it with their early lenses and with the Nikon F.

        They did it with the D100, which was the first affordable serious digital and they especially did it with the D70, which brought quality digital to the masses. The D70 sold more in its first year than the Nikon F sold in its lifetime.

        Consumers today are like those who watch popcorn movies: the explosions and destruction have to be bigger and bigger otherwise it seems boring. I criticize Nikon as much as anyone, but the D810, D5 and D500 and most of the better lenses are all very fine pieces of equipment. Priced high, but Nikon was always priced high. I’m not sure there’s anything Nikon could do within a practical reality that would get people really excited anymore and silence the critics.

        • MB

          Ok … maybe I am expecting too much out of groundbreaking … for me a groundbreaking thing was NOCT Nikkor, really unique lens at the time … Canon EOS too, visionary decision that actually brought Canon to where it is today … Nikon rangefinder line was marvelous Contax replicas but not too successful, that is why Nikon redesigned it to make Nikon F, because they could not compete with Leica and Asahi was pretty successful with Asahiflex … the thing is they used to make better and more reliable products … and I just wish they continue to do so even if not breaking any grounds, and a bit more in line what customers today need and want …

      • Groundbreaking may be the wrong term, but I do think up until a few years ago, Nikon truly made bodies and lenses that were unmatched in its class. The 14-24 was ahead of the game. The D800 was ahead of the game. That’s the more recent ones, but there are a lot of other cases prior to that as well.

      • PhilK

        Nikon was actually quite on the vanguard in the early digital era, making a variety of early digital image products before their competitors did. (Some of them all done in-house, some collaborations with Fuji and/or Kodak)

        • MB

          I think the first Nikon digital camera prototype was made by Panasonic … first commercially available model, QV-1000, was developed entirely by Nikon as far as I know … Fuji and Kodak just used Nikon housing and I am not aware of any serous collaborative development …

          • PhilK
            • MB

              Yeah … thanks for the tip 🙂 …
              I remember hearing about those but they completely escaped from my mind … and most other people i suppose 🙂

      • zzzxtreme

        I like the nikon v1 electronic shutter speed of 1/16000 and 30fps and 60fps raw capability. Firesale of $200 with lens was groundbreaking for me lol

      • Thom Hogan

        Well, that’s part of the problem with the 100th celebration: many of Nikon’s contributions are seminal to their industries, but subtle and not exactly marketed well.

        Take matrix metering, for instance. If someone were launching the first matrix pattern metering system today the way Nikon launched theirs, they’d be talking about and promoting AI. There really isn’t another system that even today matches the original matrix system well, let alone the current iteration and its complexity.

        But that’s the problem: a lot of Nikon’s innovations are “geeky” and tough to describe to general audiences.

      • Robert Falconer

        One? I’ll name eight (though there are several more)…

        – First Japanese company to introduce extra low dispersion glass in their lens designs
        – World’s first orthographic projection fisheye lens
        – First Japanese manufacturer to introduce lithography equipment
        – First company to introduce matrix metering
        – First company to introduce RGB color evaluation into their metering algorithms with the F5
        – First company to introduce multi-sensor balanced fill flash technology with the F4/N8008 cameras (and further advance it with 3D evaluative metering and into the iTTL we enjoy today)
        – First DSLR camera to record video (D90)
        – World’s first pro-DSLR with remarkable high ISO capability (D3s)
        – World’s first ultra high resolution DSLR (D800)

        • MB

          While I may agree that most of the things you mention are great technology innovations Nikon OP lens was really something else …
          Orthographic projection was not some new concept but it was seldom used because it compresses the image near borders so much that it is mostly useless for anything but some really special applications, actually I just checked and Nikon made only around 600 OP lenses in 8 years of production so it was more of a curiosity and an exercise … way more interesting to me is the fact that it was the first SLR lens incorporation aspherical element, and that is if not groundbreaking than really important advancement …
          And the fact they that used to do such a crazy stuff is why I admire the company … to bad they kind of lost that spirit lately …

    • Allen_Wentz

      Nikon does not need “groundbreaking.”

      Great pro cameras as exemplified by D810, D5 and D500 give me a _good_ feeling about Nikon.

      Nikon’s lack of an honest consumerNikon feedback loop below the pro photog level does give me a bad feeling about Nikon.

      Poor consumer understanding will continue to eat at Nikon’s competitiveness in the financially important lower-end camera/lens markets. And the fact that said markets are shrinking exacerbates the problem.

    • Thom Hogan

      I do have some questions about how Nikon is celebrating the 100th. It really seems lame so far. I believe I could do a better job of describing all the distinctive things Nikon has accomplished, maybe even extemporaneously, without notes. You have to wonder if those writing all the celebration stuff actually know what it is they’re celebrating.

  • delta snowan

    Speaking of lenses… What’s up with Sigma not even announcing the PRICE of the 24-70 Art yet? I was considering placing an order the day it becomes available… But now it makes me think they rushed the announcement and are having trouble bringing it to the market.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Nah, no firm would do stupid vaporware marketing like that.

      Oh wait…

    • sickheadache

      SIgma Announced Many Moons ago..3 new lenses..and not one peep after that. Sigma has it on their website..Nice Pretty Pictures..but no release date yet. I was interested in that 24-70 art with oc, vr, is ic, br549.

      • King of Swaziland

        No, they announced 4, two are now out. The 135 Art and the 100-400 Contemporary. Two are pending.

  • Jirka

    Please Nikon introduce some D6000 aps-c mirorless, something like sony a6500 but nikon body style and ergonomics (maybe like D5600 with articulated screen) and some D9000 FF mirorless to compete sony a7/s/r. Both with full readout 4K video, PDAF, maybe some zebra, peaking, senzor stabilization would be welcome too.

    • ZoetMB

      Why? The D5xxx series is already pretty small and light. Aside from silent shutter, what does mirrorless get you if Nikon keeps the f-mount? Better video and sensor stabilization is a different matter, but you’ll see that at the top of the line first, if ever.

      • Jirka

        Yea D5xxx is small no doubt, but it could be even smaller, close to sony a6xxx series, but liiitle bit more ergonomically pleasant. They could get rid of f-mount in my opinion. Advantages are electronic shutter capibility, electronic viewfinder. In other words, it could be product woth consider if someone wants sony a6500, fujifilm x20, panasonic g80 etc.

        Personally i just want D820 with full readout 4k video, whatever mpx count, PDAF and electronic shutter capibility for timelapses (plus senzor stabilization but that wont come anyway..)

      • Chewbacca

        Features my Olympus has that I sometimes wish My Nikon DSLR had.
        -Live bulb mode-absolutely incredible for moving water with an ND filter, night shooting or vehicles moving lights etc. if you ever used it you’d be hooked.
        -Focus stacking
        -EVF, I’m more in the moment because I never have to chimp. Every exposure is dead on. Those spot meter moments and tough lighting situations are much easier.
        -live depth of field, pretty neat. You can see the nuances of the
        f stop as you change your aperture. I know shooting for years this is second nature but we all botch this every now and then and with you had used a different f stop. you can control this in live view. Pretty nifty.
        I think there are pros and cons to everything but there are some nice features with a mirrorless if you give them a chance.

      • Thylmuc

        actually, you could have both. Make the viewfinder exchangeable, and offer an EVF. When the optical viewfinder is removed and the EVF is inserted, the mirror goes up and the camera transforms into a mirrorless camera. With this concept, those who prefer an EVF over an optical viewfinder would be satisfied.
        I don’t think the size problem is a major one.

      • David

        A 100% viewfinder, and one that is bigger or equal to FX size. I think that’s pretty neat.

  • Aldo

    Wow spending nearly 2k on a 28mm 1.4.. I guess I don’t know anything about photography as I can’t help to see it as a complete waste of money…

    • I used to say the same thing until I took a chance and got the 58mm f/1.4 and the 35mm f/1.4. There is more going on than just an extra fraction of an f-stop. These fast primes are different optical formulas, coatings, diaphragms, etc. They deliver image quality that goes beyond sharpness and contrast. The images just “feel” different. I just say they have the “secret sauce”, that the other lenses don’t have. If you get really analytical in comparing them side-by-side, I think it comes down to better bokeh. The gradations are smoother. The 50mm f/1.8G that I got with the Df is sharper than the 58 1.4. But, the images look way better using the 58. I rarely use the 50, and conversely, I can hardly take the 58 off my camera. They are a lot of money, to be sure, but the images are amazing and worth it to me.

      • Aldo

        I agree with you 100 percent… my issue is with the focal length not with the 1.4 premium. As I mentioned in the previous post 28mm is just an average focal length that doesn’t seem as interesting as a 24mm or a 35mm…. or when it comes to a 50mm, a 58 would be a much more interesting respectively.

        And yes of course 1.4 glass tends to have a ‘secret sauce’ as you say, but I can assure you that your liking of the lens has a lot to do with the focal length more than the extra stop and the secret sauce. “I rarely use the 50” Same story if that 50 was a 1.4. That’s what I’ve been trying to say all along.

        • El Aura

          So, 24 mm and 35 mm are interesting, but 28 mm is not? Is this a 28 mm is neither fish nor fowl argument? While 35 mm seems to have more fans than 28 mm, the latter has enough fans to warrant dedicated primes (as well as fixed-lens prime cameras).

          • Aldo

            And that is what I don’t understand… Nikon spending its resources on a 28mm 1.4. If someone swears by a 28mm FL by all means…but I’m still not convinced a 28mm replacement is what people want. And whereas NR only represents a small portion of Nikon fans, I don’t recall anyone asking for a 28mm replacement.

            • El Aura

              Yeah, a lot more people were clamouring for a 17 mm PC-E than for a 28 mm f/1.4 lens. But I am pretty sure, a 28 mm f/1.4 will sell more units, a 17 (or rather 19) mm PC-E is simply too specialised. But it is a halo lens and thus will get more attention.

              If you look closely, the most requested lenses are those that already exist in competitor’s line-ups but not in Nikon’s, not those that will sell the most.

            • Each FL has a uniqe look due to DOF and rectilinear distortion. More options is a good thing, and I don’t see this as a waste of development at all, especially when they’re supporting multiple sensor sizes (FX, DX, and maybe still CX.)

        • br0xibear

          Hey Aldo,
          Let me give you a different way to look at it…
          I’m a portrait and documentary/photojournalist photographer who uses primes. (There are a lot of us who don’t use zooms for various reasons).
          The focal range I like to shoot with is 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm (I might get a 135mm at some point).
          Some photojournalists prefer a slightly wider wide end, so they go 20mm, 28mm, 50mm and 85mm.
          It really depends on which angle of view/ composition and the look that you personally prefer.
          For me and the way I see the world through my viewfinder, 20mm is too wide…for others 24mm is not wide enough.
          The other thing about 1.4 over 1.8 isn’t bokeh, it’s how bright your viewfinder is. If you get the chance to compare the same lens like the 50mm 1.8 and 1.4, look at how much brighter the viewfinder is…in many conditions it’s a far more pleasurable to use because it’s brighter.
          Having said that, the 1,8s also have their advantages…you choose what works best for you, there’s always some sort of compromise.
          Hopefully all that made some sort of sense.

          • Aldo

            It does makes a lot of sense, but you yourself don’t use a 28mm so back to my original assertion. You can get a about a 28mm fov by using a 1.2 crop on your 24mm lens, which I think is an good focal length to spend 2k if you want… just not the 28.

            • br0xibear

              Yeah, but most aren’t buying both…it would be one or the other. And not everyone wants to be cropping too much.
              It just depends on which focal length you like…it’s not about better.

            • Aldo

              Yeah, similarly just because some people like and use petzval lenses, it doesn’t mean they are horrible and produce the most annoying bokeh there is known to mankind. It’s not that other portrait lenses are better, it just depends on what people like. I hope Nikon releases a similar lens, that should help their losses.

        • zzzxtreme

          I would think a reduction of even 1mm in focal length would significantly increase the price

  • NikonFanboy

    Hi admin

    d850 coming in sept then?

    Regards
    Nfb

    • This summer, and I think it will be called D820 – not D850.

      • br0xibear

        Thom seems to be hinting at an “s” and “h” model, one being the upgrade to the D810 the other the baby D5…but I haven’t heard anything “s” or “h” apart from Thom’s hints.

        • I have not heard anything about an s or h model. In general I do not like “hinting” – either you report something or not. Like a great master said once “Do or do not, there is no try”. 🙂

          • br0xibear

            I understand what you’re saying, but sometimes if you have information, and you don’t want to compromise sources, the best you can often do is put forward a “hint”.

            • I disagree, if you don’t want to compromise source, you stay put.

            • br0xibear

              We’ll have to agree to disagree.

            • of course 🙂 I’ve seen many “hints” that never happened over the years

      • NikonFanboy

        ok..But June is when summer starts. Do you think july?

        Is the lens and cooplix announcements first wave of it? next is D820? in july?

        • I don’t have an exact date for the D820 – I was just told this summer.

          • NikonFanboy

            thanks..i will wait for your update…

  • Shubhabrata Adhikary

    Nikon D810 was announced in June 2014, not sure why not the replacement D820/D850 is still not in announcement list for this week. Tired of waiting………………

    • ZoetMB

      Why would you expect it on some kind of even schedule? With a smaller market, Nikon (and probably everyone else) will be releasing fewer models and that means a longer lifetime for each. And if it’s going to be a D820 and not a D850, that implies a very incremental update and probably at a much higher price, so one is probably better off buying a D810.

      • Allen_Wentz

        There is no reason that fewer models (which we agree on) should mean a longer lifetime for each. It just means fewer models.

        • ZoetMB

          It will mean both. Nikon reducing costs means less R&D money. Less R&D money means fewer upgrades. First of all, you have maturing technology which results in primarily incremental upgrades. The area where there’s probably the greatest room for improvement is video and Nikon doesn’t seem serious about video. A potential mirrorless aside, I see both fewer models and longer timeframes between new models going forward.

  • Bob Thane

    As usual, no one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  • A. F.O.

    every f/1.4 new lens it is good news, in theory;
    I would prefer a DX 14 ou 12 mm (prime?) f/1.8; I would be curious about some P900 upgrade (with raw and a one inch sensor!…yes…:-)
    I’m afraid the zoom lens Peter refers will some f/3.5 or so….wich will not suit me for some astro and noct pictures…

    I guess Nikon will still not care about any of ours whishes and desires, NR’s user’s and will carry on to make more and more expensive lenses and bodies expecting us to buy it….well….we will think about it and some of us, if not many, will start looking somewhere else.
    🙂

  • If the new AW camera adds raw output, then it might be interesting to look at/read reviews. But without raw, meh.

    • I doubt they will add RAW.

      • Thanks for replying. I’m really surprised if they don’t – at this small sensor sizes, the advantage of raw should be clear; or at least that’s how it looks to me, looking at the Olympus TG-4 raw vs. jpeg output.

        Given that they didn’t change much between the AW120 and AW130, if AW130 only add Snapbridge… the newly announced TG-5 looks more and more appealing.

        • Eric Calabros

          at this small sensor size, raw will just shows you how terrible is the glass in front of it.

          • Allen_Wentz

            RAW and JPEG each go through the same glass. However RAW allows corrections that JPEG has already done.

            And having RAW does not mean one still cannot choose to instead use the in-camera JPEG. My guess is that it either adds cost and/or Nikon sees it as a product differentiator, but I would think making RAW available makes sense.

          • I prefer to see that, however, instead of having it hidden by the JPEG engine with its noise reduction at HIGH all time…

        • Captain Megaton

          They are great little cameras, but if the turtle print version didn’t already alert you they are for kids and casual use.

          • Nah, I don’t think so. Yes, the quality is mediocre compared to larger sensors and/or higher-class compacts, but they have a use outside of kids’ hands.

  • Nikon has had, what, two 10mm DX zooms? Neither of which has been optically superior to the competition, nor 2.8. More of the same is likely, but I hope they take the opportunity and aimed higher this time.

  • Ray Justice

    Any word on the FL 200 2.0 replacement?

  • Robin

    Update 24-120 f/4 please. The old version is already beaten by new DX 16-80.

  • Captain Megaton

    Re zoom fisheye lens. I guess Canon sold enough of these to make Nikon take notice:

    http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-8-15mm-f-4-L-USM-Fisheye-Lens-Review.aspx

  • Rich

    Damn, I was mostly interested in the new FX 70-300mm VR that has been mentioned lately

  • Tadao_Isogai
  • eric

    can’t wait for the new coolpix camera. i really enjoy there versitility and overall image quality.

    • Allan

      You haven’t been buying enough of them.

      • eric

        I have two currently. one is a 5mp and the other a 7mp. both excellent little photos in black n white. more than enough to share on social media.

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