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Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 8.4 release candidate is now available with Nikon D4s support

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The latest Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 8.4 release candidate version is now available for download with Nikon D4s and D3300 cameras support. In addition, the following new lens profiles were added:

  • Nikon 1 Nikkor 6.7-13mm f/3.5-5.6 VR
  • Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II
  • Nikon AF-S Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
  • Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G ED
  • Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM A013
  • Zeiss Otus 1.4/55 ZF.2
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  • nope!

    but adobe will lose support if they fail to support us with disc software, not a perpetual mortgage payment with no house in the end

    • AM

      All software is licensed. Even having the disc, you don’t own the software.

      • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

        I own the right not to keep paying without them breaking it.

    • One More Thought

      Subscription based software via the cloud is the way of the near future. Microsoft is doing the same thing with Office.

      Adobe so far has not paid a price for their Creative Cloud model; they are raking in more money than ever before, and now have a more dependable revenue stream.

      There is a vocal minority that complain, but most people are just adjusting and paying Adobe.

      • nope!

        Going to cloud is not magical innovation; it traps one to a perpetual payment, and cutting our freedom to not have to own software that I bought.

        Unless you think renting an apartment forever is the new cool than buying and owing a house.

        Microsoft has a clear policy to offer cloud or disc or both.

        • AM

          Read my post above. You didn’t buy SW thus you don’t own it. You paid a one-time fee for a license. Now read the fine print of the license. At some point you will see that the SW will not be supported unless you upgrade to a newer version. If you don’t like the new terms of the newer version, so be it. Look somewhere else. Simple as that.
          Now if this is a bad business decision for Adobe, they will find it the hard way, and my trigger changes to the new licensing model. Only time will tell.

        • SJKartchner

          Which is why I’ll stick with CS6 for as long as possible.

        • One More Thought

          It’s not a matter of what I think is better. It’s a matter of what will sell in the marketplace.

          I was simply commenting on the fact that so far Adobe has not suffered in sales revenue, regardless of the very vocal complaints of a few on the internet.

          As for Microsoft, they are indeed migrating to the cloud model. Their last disc does not have the latest features, nor will they offer future releases of Office as a disc. If you want to have the latest features, they will require the subscription service. The disc is a legacy product they are continuing to offer for now. It will eventually go away.

          And if you want to use their Office Mobile app you have to have the subscription service.

          My point again is not a commentary on personal preference, but rather the observed business trend. As someone else pointed out, if the subscription model doesn’t work, then companies like Adobe and Microsoft will be forced to change it. But so far it doesn’t look that way. The market is, if anything, vindicating this model.

    • Guy With-camera

      Can you name a better image manipulation program than PHOTOSHOP? I’ll wait. Let me know so I can switch.

      • Patrick O’Connor

        You don’t have to choose between switching and going to CC. I’m quite happy sticking with CS6. Sure there have been new things in CC that I’d like to have but I can live without them. If, at some point, LR goes to the CC model, there are other options to convert my raw files to DNG and continue using the latest non-CC version of LR.

  • JJ168

    Without knowing the whole process, i am curious how would the acr able to read whatever camera processing have done to the file without working with the d4s file?

    • AM

      By now, they are sure that the D4s is the same thing as the D4.

  • AM

    Which confirms that the D4s is 16 MP just like the D4. All Adobe had to do is add “D4s” to the string to look for in the RAW file and do the same stuff it does to the D4 files.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Good point, otherwise they will not be ready before the camera is even announced.

      • Guest

        Or they could have downloaded the NEF CODEC for the D4S files already available on the Nikon website to start the process. http://www.nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/

      • Spy Black

        Unless the codec decoding is resolution independent. Hope springs eternal. :-)

    • One More Thought

      That sounds logical, but perhaps not necessarily so.

      As someone else mentioned, the decoding algorithm doesn’t have to be resolution dependent.

      Also, regardless, Adobe has had access to the CODEC. It’s not unusual for Adobe to gain advance access, esp. once a the manufacturer announces the presence of a product, as Nikon has with the D4s. There have been other camera releases where Adobe updates ACR before the product ships.

  • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

    DPR had something about Fuji film simulations. Not sure what’s that all about. I assume Fuji camera profiles only

    • MJr

      Indeed, that’s just what they call their camera profiles. It’s not actually simulating ‘film’, just the color and contrast characteristics. When using the default Provia it’s basically sensor calibration as Fuji intended it, instead of just Adobe’s guess.

      It’s nice to have names like Provia, Velvia and Astia rather than Standard, Vivid, and Portrait. Because this way you can set it to Astia and not feel bad when not using it for portraits. ;)

  • rt-photography

    Shame nikon doesnt invest more in their own pp software. The ui looks so prehistoric.

    • One More Thought

      Nikon is a camera company, not a software company. There is no way that Nikon, or Canon, or any camera company is going to match the expertise of a company like Adobe in designing software.

      It would be like suggesting that Adobe could build a camera system to lure Nikon users.

      • Spy Black

        It’s not rocket science to design software and interfaces. Nor do you have to deal with tangible issues. All you really need to do is hire a decent group of designers and coders.

        • One More Thought

          Actually, it is rather difficult to design software and interfaces.

          I’ve worked on software projects, and there are many many decisions, big and small, related to design. Almost all of them involve trade offs.

          And then there are the technical realities of implementation. Again, not always as easy as it seems.

          And for every change, there can always be unexpected results that you discover in testing, and then you have to rethink some things.

          If designing software were so easy, then virtually all software would be great. That’s not true; we see the usual bell curve.

          • Spy Black

            I didn’t say it was easy, just not rocket science. Let’s face it, the core code is already there. it just needs to be tweaked, and some work put into the interface.

        • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

          I design user interfaces, big and small. It’s not as easy as it seems.

          Hey Nikon, send me a message. I’ll show you both my photography and UI/UX design portfolios.

          • rt-photography

            nothing is easy. but when youre a company, your software shouldnt look like some kid programmed it in his shack. they havent improved the UI for the longest time and im certain to those who were weighing that or LR or PS when they were “IN” they got some sales. today, LR is killing their sales.

            if youre a good programmer (not you specifically) then it should be no problem. im a pro wedding photographer. its not hard. not easy but because im a pro, im able to do it. I dont tell others wedding photography isnt easy. it can be challenging but I can do it and I do it well. I dont complain.

            none of us are nikon employees so for you it may be hard but youre not employed at nikon. and when youre a huge company that designs the best in photography equipment (work with me :)) then certainly your software can be as well. if you have gear, it goes hand in hand with software. it seems to me theyre in the “yea, who gives a shit, thatll do” attitude and people accept it. for pros who edit thousands of images per wedding, its not efficient or relevant anymore. I have view and capture and use neither anymore.

            for a company that has money, they can certain invest some of it in improving it. I can imagine how many sales they lost to adobe. the software needs to be updated.

          • Spy Black

            Yeah but see, here you go. This is really my point. The core code is already there, it just needs to be tweaked, and the design interface improved to some degree. And here you are, ready to show how it can be done. I wasn’t implying it is easy, but it’s not rocket science. All you need is some decent programmers and designers, and here in you is at least one. ;-)

      • rt-photography

        I didnt say match, but certainly they can improve it. its not even the point to match LR but to make it a good alternative. the algorithms are better and output for jpeg is better IMO. the colors are much better. only thing it needs is some sprucing up, and better efficient coding to take advantage of fast gpu’s. thats not a tall order. all it needs is a nice UI, and some more efficient processing and I would have no issue moving. doesnt have to be close to LR in terms of tweaks and features..thats what PS is for. just seems to me theyve given up on it. just adding support for specific cameras.

  • CaptureNX

    Count me in as actually liking the user interface on view and capture nx

    There is a simple and consistent linear flow through the menu for both

    I haven’t had to pay for an upgrade since v2 6 years ago

    There was a significant upgrade in speed when it went 64 bit

  • Ge Yunkin

    Nikon? Only CNX!

  • broxibear

    Talking about the D3300…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbZj6BdcYQ

  • Band New

    Adobe quote: “Updates to Camera Raw 8 for Photoshop CS6 only include new camera
    support, lens profile support, and bug fixes. The new features listed
    here are only available in Photoshop CC.”

    Well… No comment!

  • broxibear

    “Now that the Olympics are over, I can talk about it, Nikon gave me a D4s to use for my entire time at the Olympics”

    Looks as if the NDAs might have run out ?
    ©Scott Rovak

    http://instagram.com/p/kxiDOeoIBE/#

    • broxibear
      • broxibear

        ©Scott Rovak USA TODAY Sports

        http://usatq.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/usatsi_7761823.jpg

        D4s 1/2,000 sec, f/5.6, ISO 4000

        • broxibear

          XQD and CF slots confirmed by Scott Rovak

          • broxibear

            “Its
            been a great time shooting the biggest sport event with the latest
            Nikon D4s. Amazing AF performance and some new really interesting new
            functions! Thanks to Nikon Europe!”
            ©Victor Fraile
            http://instagram.com/p/kxyYtHt9Y4/#

          • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

            no surprises so far as expected

            • broxibear

              It wouldn’t surprise me if we see a few more internet names start switching to Canon this year.
              At least with the D3 to D3s they added video if not much else…if the D4s is really just Af and general speed then Nikon are in for another Df style beating on the interwebhighway.
              Maybe that’s why they didn’y announce any specs at CES or CP+…they were too scared, lol.

            • KnightPhoto

              From a sensor perspective, the D4 (and Df) ranked by DxO for ISO at 2965 and 3279 still beat the 1DX at 2786 and both get 89 points to Canon’s 82. And that’s using EXPEED3 and avoids the typical Canon banding we have come to expect even at low ISO when pushed in post. It’s going to be interesting to see what EXPEED4 brings to the table for still image processing. I have been doing a lot of reading about the EXPEED4 based video in the D5300 (and D3300) and Nikon has made some giant strides in overall video quality, well exceeding Canon on that front. And certainly the D4 AF is already surefooted, so any improvement there is going to be caramel on top of the ice cream. I know I use it in the dark and the AF just works works works. That’s what we want in a camera, one that does its thing and gets out of the way.

            • broxibear

              Hi KnightPhoto,
              The DxO are somewhat deceptive, yes the numbers may be greter for one sensor over another, but that translates into very little as far as stops and iso are concerned.
              It’s been discussed before, if you compare the D3 to the D4 on the Dxo site, the charts for iso, dynamic range etc are almost identical and only after 6400 does the D4 get a bit better.
              Yes Nikon have made up ground as far as video is concerned, but those who switched to Canon won’t be coming back. The vast majority of film makers who use dslrs use Canon, film schools are heavily invested in Canon. on top of that many are using the GH range and now they’ve introduced 4k.
              And remember video isn’t used by everyone, none of the Sochi photographers shot video, they don’t have the rights to do so even if they wanted to. I’m a portrait and music photographer, I don’t shoot video and most of the time I’m not allowed to. It just depends on what you do…contrary to some that post here, there’s more to photography than weddings. Each to their own and all that, but I can’t stand wedding photography and all that goes along with it…I’m not saying they haven’t got talent or skill in what they do…I just have no interest in those type of images.
              You said an interesting thing…
              “That’s what we want in a camera, one that does its thing and gets out of the way.”
              I think since the D4/D800 they’ve been adding things just for the sake of adding and not making sure the basics were the best.
              That’s why the D3, D3s and D700 are considered so good, and why photographers at Sochi and the F1 testing are still using these cameras.
              Nikon lost their way with the D4/D800 because they wanted to catch up with Canon as far as video was concerned…but they forgot about the basics.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

      Yes, the announcment should be in 24 hours if the rumors are correct.

      • broxibear

        is there a party ?…or is it just a press release with the words “Nikon D4s…Slightly better than the D4. P.S. It’s more expensive and stock will be difficult to find for the first three months.”

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          Just a press release I guess – it Nikon wanted a Big Bang, they would have announced at CP+.

          • broxibear

            if I were Canon pr I’d be leaking images and specs for the rumoured Canon 38MP dslr right after Nikon announce the D4s.

            • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

              If they have such a camera. I haven’t seen any reliable Canon rumors lately.

        • http://nikonrumors.com/ Nikon Rumors

          Just a press release I guess – it Nikon wanted a Big Bang, they would have announced at CP+.

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