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New Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28mm f/1.8G full frame lens to be announced in 2012

The discontinued Nikkor 28mm f/1.4D AF lens

In addition to the rumored 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6 (see patent) and 16-85mm f/4 (see patent) DX lenses, Nikon will also announce a new Nikkor AF-S 28mm f/1.8G full frame lens. The new lens will not have VR and it will be small in size (I guess compared to the 24mm and 35mm f/1.4 versions). I don't know the exact announcement date, but I believe it will be this year (2012).

Nikon discontinued the very popular Nikkor 28mm f/1.4D AF (read more about it here) long time ago - this lens is still selling for record amounts on eBay.

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  • http://tumbleweed-092.livejournal.com Slow Gin

    Fingers crossed for reasonable price.

    • T.I.M

      That will lower the price for the used 28mm f/1.4 !
      :)

  • Zorro

    At last, the right focal length to be a standard prime for DX.

    • Beats

      Isn’t 35mm the “right” focal length for a DX normal lens?

      • MJr

        The range for ideal standard prime goes from 35 to 50mm Equivalent. Personally i don’t like 50mm, it’s too narrow.

        Anyway, that would be 24 to 35mm on DX.

        • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

          yes but on DX 28 is closer to 50eq then to 35eq

        • gt

          28mm is about 42mm on DX

          • GrumpyDiver

            A 35mm on a DX is technically same as a 52.5mm on FX; technically a 33.3mm lens on Dx = 50mm on FX.

            A 28mm on DX = 42mm on FX; which is a focal length I rarely need.

            In fact, in DX I find I like 24mm and wider or 50mm or longer; I’ve never found much use for 28mm or 35mm focal length fixed lenses.

            • Alex

              Just try it ! I love my 40mm voigtlander on full frame

            • MJr

              +1 for Alex

  • jorg

    grand!

    price should be on par with the af-s85/1.8, no?

  • longzoom

    The 28/1.4 never was “very popular”. It did sell very slow, for the reason of CA, other imperfections, and, mostly, unsharpness to f3.5-4.0. The high price, set by ignorants from both sides, telling nothing. I had 3 of them, and each next one was even worser. Keep away from it.

    • MJr

      I’m going to have to disagree.

      • longzoom

        Please do as much as you want. The bad lens is still bad. Let us wait and see the new one.

        • bert

          Hope it is as tack sharp and distortion free as my 28mm 2.8 AIs

          • preston

            I hope it is as nice as the 35 f/1.8 dx (which is much sharper and nicer bokeh than the 24 or 28mm f/2.8s that I sold after getting the new 35mm)!

    • Mock Kenwell

      Wow. I could not agree less. It did not sell because it cost two kidneys, not because it “sucked.”

    • jsa

      “CA”

      A little, typical of a fast lens on the widish side.

      “unsharpness to f3.5-4.0″

      Of the 3 that crossed my path, one was awfull as you describe, the other two were fine.

  • http://www.willstrange.co.uk Will

    *wags tail*

  • SoftOnDemand

    If its going to be a 1.8 then it’s gonna be affordable…,! 600 max!!

    • Stefan

      Given that the 50mm f1.8 and the 85mm f1.8 are all very affordable there is certainly hope … looking forward to get me one ;-).

  • NikoFanboy

    HI Admin,

    Thanks for the heads up. Just out of interest have you had any sort of info lately with regards to D400 and the 800mm F/5.6 VR? Last info you had was that this lens was due to be out in Photokina? or sometime this year…..

    Thanks in advance.

    • use your head

      Just out of interest have you had any sort of info lately with regards to D400

      Of course, he has some news about the D400, but has decided to post it some other time.

      /sarcasm.

      To all the people who ask questions like this – don’t you think he would post info on something as important as a major SLR body release as soon as he gets it, if he felt it was worth posting?

      • WoutK89

        agreed completely, and most people posting these questions I assume are not even reliant on whether or not it comes rather sooner than later. Just be patient, Admin does not have any advantage in holding back info!

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      I keep giving the same answer – nothing reliable yet, once I get good intel, I will post it asap.

  • AM

    Will the 18-300mm have VR? I don’t see anything about it in the patent.

    • WoutK89

      at a lens of that class, it will.

  • Jurassic Pizza

    I’d much rather have a 24/2.8 update. Yes, there are a lot of options at 24 mm, but they’re all huge or old. 28 mm just doesn’t seem that exciting.

    • MJr

      It’s actually a very comfortable angle where 24mm can be a bit too unnatural, and 35mm a bit too limiting for landscape etc. Not to mention it is affordable when it’s not ‘exciting’ ;)

      • David

        I quite agree – I’d very happily sell my 35/1.8 (which I find too “tight” to my 50mm prime and so rarely gets used!) for this (even though it would be sell and then add £200-£300)

        Now for a 18/2.8 DX to complete the set of light, inexpensive primes for DX users (i.e. the vast majority of us, who will never be able to afford a full set of the f/1.4 primes)…

        • David

          Sorry, that was meant to be a reply to the earlier nested comment (started by Zorro) about DX focal lengths!

          • MJr

            For a smaller DX sensor the 18mm you mention should not be any slower than F2 to have any chance to stand against zooms, or as a reason to be limited to DX at all in the first place. That i would definitely buy tho !

            No point selling the 35/1.8 if you ask me, because it is certainly worth its small price, but not worth the loss. You should try and take it out more (indoors), explore the power of F1.8. ;)

            • David

              The idea of making it fairly slow would be to keep it small and light – and as a prime it would knock the socks off, even there, of anything but the (all rather more expensive and heavy) 16-35/4, 14-24/2.8, 17-55/2.8 – i.e. it would trash the 18-xx and 16-85 consumer zooms that I would assume it would compete against! An FX capable 18/2 would be much larger and more expensive!

              I’ve got a 50/1.4 – it sort of relegates the 35/1.8, with its less inspiring focal length and slower aperture, to the back bench. What I do actually use it for is on my F1oo, as a (somewhat-vignetting, but still OK) true 35mm, which I like much more!

            • MJr

              “An FX capable 18/2 would be much larger and more expensive!”

              … which is why it would be limited to DX.

      • PeterJ

        Absolutely, my favourite wide angle focal length. I think it’s the most versatile of all the wide angles from street, landscape and most interiors. Great walk around and travel lens.

    • Speedwolf

      I would have rather seen a 24mm f/1.8 as it’s such an ideal focal length for both FX and DX. The wide angle sweet spot for FX and the do-everything 35mm FF equivalent on DX.

      Great news, nevertheless! I can see a lot of people buying this instead of the 35mm f/1.8 DX.

      • El Aura

        There is a 25 mm f/2 … from Zeiss, costing the trifling amount of $1700.

    • http://tumbleweed-092.livejournal.com Slow Gin

      28 mm provides very beautiful field of view on FF camera.

    • Sahaja

      @ Jurassic Pizza.

      Whats wrong with the 24/2.8 D? It may be “old”, but it is a nice lens ~ so is the manual focus AIS version.

  • Ryan

    Hope 24 f2.8 equivalent follows…

  • ano102

    Great news for FF users

    any upcoming wide angle zoom, or updated 10-24, 12-24 ?

    • MJr

      I would love a higher quality 10-24 for DX. The current one is much too expensive for too little performance or decent built quality. It saddens me.

      • MJr

        I would even pay more tho if it was as good as the 14-24mm is for FX.

      • ano102

        +1

      • Analyst

        There are plenty of wide angle zooms available from Sigma, Tamron, and Tokina too you know. Counting the 2 Nikon options, you have at least eight options for a wide zoom. I’m sure you can find one with reasonable price/performance.

        Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM
        Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM
        Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM
        Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5 Di II LD Aspherical IF
        Tokina 12-24mm F4 AF PRO DX
        Tokina 11-16 F2.8 PRO DX

        • MJr

          Which is exactly why Nikon should try harder.

  • Antsl

    Fantastic news… it is not so much the expense that has put it off the 28mm and the 24mm f1.4… it is their size. Despite being the perfect focal length and speed for shooting doco and reportage work, they were too intimidating to point towards people at close range. This is one of the few lenses that Canon have had in their arsenal that I really wish Nikon had something similar too. Well done.

  • http://mikeversprill.com MikeV

    I think this will be a cool lens.. I own the 35 f2 (would like the 1.4) but cant justify the $1700 price tag so I was hoping they would make a 35 1.8 for a FX body… This might be a good alternative for me. 1.8′s always suit my needs just fine and the price is usaually 3 to 4 times cheaper which I also like…. so I would imagine this lens to be around the $400-$500 range. Can’t wait for it to come out so I can try it out

    • Wes Jones

      Agree, I’ve been hoping also for 35 1.8 on FX, seems to me that their should be a 1.8 FX compliment to each standard/popular 1.4 prime.

      • MikeV

        Yup… The 35 f2 is great lens but it is not as sharp as the dx 35 1.8 or the 35 1.4 ….. and it is old and needs to be updated badly
        Nikon updated the 50mm 1.8… Now they updated the 85 1.8… So hopefully in the near future we will have an updated 35 f2 that will be turned into a 35 1.8 for fx … PLEASE NIKON!

  • AK

    Who needs lenses like this or 18-300? I previously had the 18-200 and it was optically crap thing. No way 18-300 could be any better, probably it will be worse anywhere beyond 100mm. Just too much focal length on one lens, not working well!

    Nikon should bring us new 80-400/5.6 VR, 300/4 VR, 400/5.6VR, 200/4 Micro VR and maybe wide DX prime like 10mm or 16mm. But NO MORE these cheap normal range zooms as there already are many of them and if they just make new 16-85mm that would do the job

    • Rich in TX

      I’m agreeing with ya.
      I had the 18-200 VR and it sucked big time.
      In my defense that was back before I knew any better and I listened to what rockwell had to say.
      The fact that he likes the 18-300 is enough to tell me it probably blows as well.

      • WoutK89

        some people would also prefer versatility over performance. Its a great do it all lens, but you give up on image quality. So just because you dont like the image quality other people like the usability.

        • GrumpyDiver

          My wife has the 18mm – 200mm and loves it simply because it gives her what she wants a good 95% of the time.

          There I am busily swapping out my 24mm – 70mm for my 70mm – 200mm pro lenses, she’s busily getting the shot. Maybe the image qualitiy isn’t quite up there, but it’s better than missing the shot.

          • http://www.jchauphotography.com Jason

            True true. Maybe it’s time for you to get two bodies and never miss another shot again! (due to swapping lenses)

            • GrumpyDiver

              That is exactly my plan; when the pre-ordered D800 arrives (hopefully this year and sooner than later. I suspect that the demand will exceed the supply for quite some time).

              That being said; things will really depend on the what I am doing and I can’t see dragging 2 bodies along all the time; simply too much weight and volume to drag around when heading out off the beaten path.

          • El Aura

            I tend to be busy swapping out my 50 mm f/1.4 and 105 mm f/2, not sure how a zoom would help me with that.

          • http://www.robertash.com Robert Ash

            @Jason, that’s exactly what I do. I have my D7000 w/ 18-200 and my D300 w/ 12-24. Both have quick release plates attached for my Manfrotto Triatt tripod. In a fast-moving shooting situation I never have to switch lenses. Even on a tripod I can switch cameras easily.

            @Grumpy, to me it’s well worth the effort. Those cameras are light and those lenses are light so it’s not much trouble.

            • GrumpyDiver

              That is sort of my plan too when the new body arrives. I have a couple of Benro carbon-fibre tripods with Arca – Swiss quick release plates. I tend to leave the plates mounted on the body (or lens for the longer, heavier zooms) anyways, so that technique will work for me too.

    • BigEater

      I thought I didn’t like my 18-200 until I went back and looked at shots I took with it 7 or 8 years ago. It may not be the sharpest lens, but it was really good at making a very natural-looking rendering of the scene. It was also great with people, it produced nice skin tones and was able to render the contours of their faces. I’m thinking about buying another one even though I have upgraded to “better” lenses like the 24-70.

    • Dr Motmot

      I agree with AK, I would definitely buy a 300mm/4 and/or 200mm/4 (although I have just ordered the 180mm/2.8 which might be OK to fill that focal length). I would also buy a 16mm or 18mm/2 DX or FX lens. I have no use for a 28mm.

  • Joe

    I prefered 35mm 1.8

  • wsupBrah

    The 35mm 1.4 isn’t much smaller than the 24-70 2.8. I’ve been cruising ebay for a 28mm f2.0 ais. I hope this lens is nice and compact, although I doubt they’ll use a 52mm filter. I agree with the comment about how those big lenses scare people up close. Like pointing a gun at their face.

    $500 would be a fair price.

  • Adnan

    Yay! Was waiting for a wide prime which would be more affordable. was thinking of getting a 20-35 f/2.8D with a new D700,but lets see where they price this one!!!

    • MikeV

      Sigma makes a 20mm 1.8 and a 28mm 1.8.. if you want wide prime… however I don’t think all the copies are equally sharp as per some of the negative reviews I read. Never the less it is an alternative just for thought

      • preston

        According to the excellent lens testing website lenstip.com, the Sigma 28mm f/1.8 lens is one of the worst performing prime lenses they have ever tested, with the edges (with full-frame camera) never getting to an acceptable level of sharpness. And the center of the frame isn’t even useful (ability to resolve at least 30 lpmm) until f/2.8. Compare this to their tests of the Nikon 35mm f/1.8 and the center is fully useful at maximum aperture. In fact Nikon 35mm has same resolution at f/1.8 as Sigma 28mm has at f/3.5!

        http://www.lenstip.com/234.4-Lens_review-Sigma_28_mm_f_1.8_EX_DG_Aspherical_Macro_Image_resolution.html

        • byrom

          You’re comparing a DX lens with an FX though. I agree though. I have their 20mm f1.8, and unless it’s just my copy, as other people rave about their copy being sharp, my copy is pretty soft at f1.8 and it seems to a lot of shots out of focus. Your link said the 28mm was 16% out of focus and had a front focus issue. Only 10% on the D3X. I think some of the focusing issues have to do with the fact that sigma isn’t not nikon and has to reverse engineer and calibrate their lenses.

          All that being said, 20mm at f1.8 is great for manual focus video in low light.

  • john

    Looks promising!
    A question for you guys (and gals) that is a little off-topic:
    I want to buy the d800(e) and I mostly photograph landscapes and people (documentary)
    I seriously dislike the plastic lenses so I am looking for some high quality primes. So far my main interest are the Voigtlanders (40mm and maybe the just anounced 75mm)
    Do some of you have experience with these lenses, or if you understand where I am comming from, do you have other suggestions for high quality primes that are not plastic and give you the feeling you are working with photographic gear instead of a hand computer?

    Thanks in advance!

    • wsupBrah

      Any Nikon AIS manual focus lens will be solid metal construction. Also look into Zeiss primes, those are also top notch construction with manual focus. The Af-d era made some nice metal ones, for example the 28mm 1.4 that this will replace was mostly metal. I have no doubt this will be the same construction as the new 50mm, and 85mm 1.8.

      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        I wouldn’t necessarily go down the Zeiss path first. Their construction is very nice, but they are extremely expensive and are not as sharp as many Nikon primes so it’s often very questionable what sort of end product you really get. I would start by looking at the Nikon PC-E lenses for the best possible lenses for landscape, and would HIGHLY recommend the 24mm f/3.5 and 45mm f/2.8 PC-Es before any Zeiss lens. They are going to be unbelievably good on the D800E.

        See some examples on my site here:

        24mm f/3.5 PC-E: http://russbarnes.co.uk/?q=%2224mm%20PC-E%22
        45mm f/2.8 PC-E: http://russbarnes.co.uk/?q=%2245mm%20PC-E%22

        • jorg

          thanks for sharing your art, RussB.

        • Mikycoud

          Hi Russ,
          From the look of some of your pictures, I gather you have tilt an shift on the same a axis. At least on the 24 pc-e. Did you modify the lens yourself or did you have it done by Nikon? If you did it yourself, how easy/safe was it?
          Thanx

          • http://Www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            Not so actually, I’ve never messed with the tilt orientation of either lens. It’s something I considered when first owning one but after a while it genuinely didn’t feel like a limitation. It’s something I wish I had in about 1% of my images but at that moment I might change the composition slightly to suit the limitation of the lens. It’s genuinely not something I would suggest anyone rushes to alter and would suggest using the lens for say 6 months first and then revisiting the decision…

            • Patrik

              Totaly agree. Especialy if you want to do some horizontal stitching. Then you want to have DOF fall down to the horizon, and shift horizontally. Works well as it is.

              DIY modifications can be done to the 24 if you are careful. The 45 needs new cabling as the ones installed are inapropriate. Never looked in the 85.

              RussB, ever tried a TC14 on your 45? Works great. Just file off the @#$! tab that stops it from mounting and you have a 60mm macro with tilt! Easy to get at the controls too as they are farther from the body…

            • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

              Taking a file to just about Nikon’s finest lens sounds like a sacrilegious act to me! It is a thing of beauty, it is to be worshipped and loved, certainly not filed!!!!!!

    • Mark_L

      Hi John,

      I use a D700 with the Nikkor 24 and 35 f:1.4 and although the outside is made of plastic the feel is more like metal – really serious lenses (not to talk about the IQ which is stellar).

      I also have an “old” 28 f:3.5 PC which gives fantastic quality on the D700… and is made of pure metal and glass! No idea how it will behave with the D800 but the good thing with these PC lenses is that the IQ is optimized for a much larger image circle.

      Hope this helps!

      Mark.

    • byrom

      Samyang makes a few lenses you might look into. They seem to have good reviews too. They have an 85mm, 35mm and 24mm, all at f/1.4. They’re made of metal but manual focus, and they have an aspherical element to fix aberration which will probably afflict most old nikkors. Although some old nikkors have a hand polished aspherical element. Today they just use a plastic aspherical element.

  • jcfh

    Great news!

    I shoot AiS 28mm F2 constantly on my D3x despite owning all the Nano Zooms and 1.4G’s. A good copy will give you all the bite, delicacy and resolution you can dream of. In my experience, the F2 is much better than the F2.8 version which seemed to be a tad loud in it’s rendition (had a killer pallete), and wider brush strokes which came at the expense of poorer corners. The F3.5 version is for distant landscape use stopped down IMO. As such the F2 supplanted them.

    As much I was enamored with and lusted for the F1.4D, I never bought one since none I tried got close to the performance the F2 ‘s in the ranges f/2~f/4, and at f/1.4, well they all veiled heavily. None of the dozen or so I tried got close to the examples seen on sharing sites.

    This 28mm field of view is what I grew up shooting with, never taking a liking to the 35mm or 24mm.

    If the 1.8G comes out, I will buy it in a hurry. But please, Nikon, give it 9 blades.
    In fact if it comes out as 1.4G, you will find a buyer in me.

  • bnato

    seriously nikon? when the F are you going to get the 135 f2 redone… 28 1.8? really not necessarry considering all the others in that range… 17-35 2.8, 16-35 f4, 35 1.4, 24 1.4, 35 f2….

    135!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!

  • danpe

    This seems really interesting. Let’s just hope it doesn’t get the slow type AF motor that 18-55 VR and the other small zooms use.

  • Michael

    What about some affordable telephoto prime like an updated AF-S 300/4 VR or an AF-S 400/4 or even 5.6 VR? Come on Nikon, a lot of wildlife photographers that can’t afford or don’t want to carry the 300/2.8 or 400/2.8 are waiting for such a lense!

    • http://www.wildbirdy.com looon

      +10000! Although I’d much prefer the flexibility of an updated 80-400 in the form of a 100-400 f/4-5.6, like the one they patented awhile back. I am sooooooo pining for that lens!

  • nobody

    That’s great news.

    Oh wait, it’s just a rumour :)

  • Chris P

    Like others I would rather see a new 80-400, but if Nikon use some common sense and make this with a reasonably large front element and a 67 filter thread, to avoid excessive vignetting, it will make a very nice 28 + 85 1.8 walk around combo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MarkWhitePhotographyProductions Mark

    Wuhoo. 18/1.8, 20/1.8, and 28/1.8 to go along with the 50/1.8G and 85/1.8G. Nikon is knocking it out of the park with their new 1.8 primes!

    Mark

  • T.I.M

    Peter,
    I’m still searching why the 24mm PC-E f/3.5 would not be compatible with the D800/D800e (as stated on Nikon’s website).

    Does anyone have informations to share about what could be the issue ?
    I was planning to get that lens for my D800e
    :(

    • jorg

      the locking screws can touch the flashhousing in some situations. you have to swivel the lens the other way around in that case.

    • jorg

      you can work around this, it is not a show-stopper

      • LeGO

        Agree, based on my experience of using the 24mm PC-E with the D700.

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      no idea, I will post this online

      • T.I.M

        Nasim Mansurov just told me to ignore it but I would like to get reliable informations about that issue.

        You don’t want to spend $2000 in a lens, an then find out that it will not fit on
        your camera !

        The 24mm PC-E not compatible with the D800 does not make much sens, I will appreciate informations from Nikon itself (but they are a PAIN to contact)

        • http://Www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

          It’s about the amount of shift that can be applied at maximum height with a certain orientation of the lens. As others have said, it’s not a real show stopper in any respect for two reasons:

          1. I would strongly advise using the maximum tilt and shift possibilities of the lens regardless as quality falls off significantly at the outer limits.

          2. As others have said, turning the lens through a 90 degree orientation mostly resolves this issue.

          Take a look at my website, I’ve shot with the D700 and the 24 & 45 PC-e for the last 2 years without issue. The 24 is not meant to be “compatible” with the D700 either…

          • http://Www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            That should say “strongly advise AGAINST” ;)

  • http://brandonburtner.com/ Brandon Burtner

    28mm is too close to 35mm. I will be absolutely sick if Nikon releases a 28mm f/1.8 instead of a 24mm f/1.8. God I hope Sigma has an affordable 24mm f/1.4 in the works…

    • Nathan

      In the old days of film we used to buy lenses by these particular focal lengths:

      18mm, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm

      Some people went this route instead:

      20mm, 28mm, 50mm

      I personally liked the 18, 24, 35, 50 route.

      • Fredbare

        +1
        For DX Nikon need a 16mm lens too.
        Seems that Nikon is expecting everyone to just buy a zoom at the lower focal lengths.

        • El Aura

          The Tokina 11-16 mm can in terms of IQ and speed do double-duty as a prime replacement.

          • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            But the Tokina 11-16 displays a horror show of CA for me…

    • jcfh

      It all depends upon your style and subject. I shoot FX.

      35mm is too close to 50mm and 24mm too wide for PJ work and too close to 20mm or 17mm as a wide for me (as well as not being wide enough).

      Personally, I passed on the 24mm 1.4G because I already had the two nano zooms (14-24mm, 24-70mm), the 24mm PC-E. and several other lenses which covered 24mm.

      Like many I would like an updated light bright wide angle for response and mobility.
      In my book, 35mm is not a wide angle.

      • jack

        Agreed… If I could only have one prime it would be 35mm… but two for PJ work– 28mm and 50mm… for a third 85-105mm. The 28mm F2 AIS was amazing… and Nikon hasn’t updated affordable primes in a LONG time.
        I’ll be picking this and the 85 up shortly.

  • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

    This looks interesting.

  • JETELINHO

    well, would have prefered 24 f/1,8 or f/2,0 rather (as it will / would go on DX) but still looks promising & worth thinking even for DX if (IF!) true. the sooner the better, today was late :-)

    looking fwd to it, regards,
    Jet

  • http://www.homeroie.blogspot.com homero

    I hope Nikon announces soon the 18-300mm lol I am awaiting it!!!

    • GrumpyDiver

      18mm – 300mm would be a slow (f/3.5 or slower at wide angle and f/5.6 or slower at the long end) lens with pretty significant distortion at both ends. One simply cannot produce a lens with that wide a range withoug some pretty significant design tradeoffs. If will be DX too, I suspect.

  • Steve

    I have been thinking that the 35mm 1.8 lens isnt that good for landscapes. I have been using that lens only for years and it is nice they finaly have some afordable choices comming out now. I think my wish list wouls be compleat I think for lenses.

  • Steve

    I have been thinking that the 35mm 1.8 lens isnt that good for landscapes. I have been using that lens only for years and it is nice they finaly have some afordable choices comming out now. I think my wish list would be compleat I think for lenses.

  • http://mato34.es/ Mato34

    It’s OK to have more lenses, but what about some prime kind of wide for DX? Say 16/1.8 or 2.8 , or24/1.8.

  • giovanni

    When avaible new (1994- Sept. 2006), it sold for $1,700 at full NYC discount discount.

    Because it was so expensive, no one bought them. Because no one bought them, Nikon stopped making them. Because Nikon stopped making them, photographers and collectors now want it, so the price skyrocketed

    It went to over $2,000, used in 2006.

    As of 2008, the used price skyrocketed to over $4,000, which also makes the 28mm f/1.4 more expensive than most 300mm f/2.8 lenses.

    As of 2009, it sold used for about $3,500.

    • WoutK89

      as of the end of 2007 Nikon had FX. That’s why since 2008 more people wanted fast semi-wide primes.

  • Levi H

    I think a 28mm 1.8G lens will be awesome for anyone who either doesn’t have the funds for a 35mm or 24mm 1.4G lens, or is just new to the full frame crowd. I sure wish it was available when we first got into full frame. I bet there will be a ton of newcomers with the D700 dropping in price as well, and this along with the other updated 1.8G lenses (50mm, 85mm) will be such an affordable set of nice lenses for them.

    For me, a 20mm 2.0G or something would be much more interesting at this point for full frame video. Although an update to the DC lenses would probably be more useful to me as a wedding photographer. Would love to see a DC G lens.

    • Levi H

      Oh, and this lens definitely is not being made for DX users. Stick with your 35mm 1.8G DX lens! It’s so freak’n cheap!

  • Nathan

    I wouldn’t say the 28mm f/1.4 is “still selling” for high amounts on Ebay. Those prices are the asking prices from the sellers and doesn’t reflect whether they get sold or not.

    As for the 18-300 lens, I don’t see why it has to be DX. It’ll be huge and heavy, but there’s no reason why it couldn’t take the place of the 28-300 that’s on FF. If that lens came out, it would be really, really nice since 28mm seems so restrictive. I’m always wishing it could give me a little more. That’s why I love the 24mm focal length.

    • nobody

      AFAIK, there is no FX zoom starting around 18mm which has more than 40mm at the long end. It’s just too difficult to have longer focal lengths combined with a super wide angle in one single lens.

      So an 18-300mm will be a DX lens without any doubt.

  • http://eleventhphotograph.com elph

    Any chance of a 24 f1.8 perhaps? The 1.4 is cooooostly.

    Though I’ll probably check out this new 1.8 for sure.

    • T.I.M

      @elph
      Then get the 24mm f/2.8, I had one, great lens !

      • Fredbare

        I still have the 24mm AF. Nothing wrong with this lens.

      • jastereo

        Agreed. Great lens on DX too (to act kind of as a 35mm FF equivalent – though with a bit more distortion to be careful of). If I want more variation than just carrying the single 35mm 1.8 (dx) I’ll, instead, bring the 24mm & 50mm (for use on DX) for a nice light (and fast) kit w/ short and long. Works great for people shots. Kind of a poor man’s 35mm/85mm set on full frame.

        Of course, I’d love to have a new 24mm 1.8 or 2.0 but most of the time the 2.8 is good enough. Damn sharp little lens too (and nice & small).

  • John

    Wow – I was just about to plunk down $2K on the 28/1.4D in the next few days – glad I read this rumor – now I will wait for this lens to come out as I don’t absolutely have to have this lens this year. Now I can save the $$ for that D800 body.

    I wanted at least a 28/2 lens to complement my 20/2.8D and 50/1.8G.

    I hope it’s not a huge lens and that it’s not much over $1K.

  • FanBoy

    No, Nikon is working on two versions. 28/1.8G is for DX, and 28/1.4G for FX.

    • John

      “No, Nikon is working on two versions. 28/1.8G is for DX, and 28/1.4G for FX.”

      And you know that the f/1.8 if for DX and the f/1.4 is for FX how?

      • GrumpyDiver

        If the rumours are correct, then f/1.4 is going to be a premium lens and the market would be the premium FX user. The DX market would be covered by the less expensive and cheaper to build f/1.8 lens.

        That’s just a guess, but would be consistent with any camera manufacturer’s product direction. The premium user gets to pay a premium price, and the non-premium user gets to choose how much money he or she is willing to spend.

  • BB

    Admin any long lenses this year? 300 f4VR or 80-400? Nikon seriously lags behind competition in this area…

    Nikon can lure many more canon guys if they improve their long end. But do not understand their thinking…. great cameras are not all in the world of DSLR

  • D800_is_finally_here

    This is a great news. I was indeed thinking of adding 35/1.4G to complement the 24/1.4G I already have, since neither of them were quite the right focal length. I shoot close up portraits between f/1.4- f/2 all the time with the 24/1.4G, but often finding it a bit too wide, and too expensive for a specialized lens.

    Now all I need is a 28/1.8G that’s a more natural focal length. Instead of a “plain” lens at $600 I much rather they add nano-coating to it and make it $1000. I don’t care if they add a gold ring or not…60/2.8G does not have a gold ring either.

  • EnPassant

    If true Nikon keep surprising us with their lens releases. Why ‘only’ 1.8 for the 28mm when the new 24 mm and 35mm both have 1.4?
    Is this a sign Nikon will only make one prime for each wideangle focal length?
    Those who want a fast prime can choose 24 and 35 mm. Those who want a more compact and affordable (but not cheap, I guess at least USD 1000, propably more, it is after all a quite fast 1.8) only get the ‘average wide angle’ 28mm.

    I’m still crossing my fingers for a couple of compact and affordable DX primes like 16mm/2.8 and 23 or 24mm/1.8 or 2.0, both with 52 mm filter thread.
    Together with already existing lenses that would make it possible to have a small, affordable low weight DX-camera set with lenses from 16-200mm, or 24-300mm full frame equivalent with Nikons old standard 52mm filter thread.

    For many this would hit the perfect balance between size and performance. But it seems Nikon is more concerned about the competition with their own FX-system which they rather see DX-users upgrade to than seriously trying to compete with mirrorless solutions like M43 and NEX.
    Small DX-cameras like D3100 and D5100 are for many small enough and would be the first choice if only there would exist a few good and small wideangle primes for them.

    • WoutK89

      The 50mm and 85mm are 1.8 and doesnt cost that much. The (DX) 35mm is 1.8 and doesnt cost that much. Why do you think the 28mm would be different?

      • D800_is_finally_here

        A fast (f/1.8 is plenty fast for a 28mm FF) wide prime has a higher design/manufacturing cost than a f/1.8 tele prime like a 85mm. They would have to throw in some aspheric elements, and quality ones that would work for a high-res 36mp sensor is not going to be cheap.

        I can see Nikon releasing this lens to satisfy the D800 crowd who want to to sqeeze the most of that hi-res sensor.

    • Zeke

      A faster 28mm would be bigger and more expensive. That said, f/1.8 is hardly slow.

      My walking-around lens is a 35mm f/1.4 but it’s very big. A compact 28mm f/1.8 would be great.

  • broxibear

    When Nikon announced a D800E as well as the D800 I wondered how many would regret buying the D800E because of the potential moire issues.
    Nikon UK published this article today “How does the D800E differ from the D800 and how does this affect performance?” https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/51632
    I got some new information today about pre-orders of the D800 in the UK. I was told the amount of pre-orders was so big there is no way they’ll be filled in the first shipment, and the second shipment would take several months. One pro dealer had over 250 pre-orders… there’s no chance they’ll be getting that many D800s any time soon.
    The date for the first shipment still seems to be last week in March/ first week in April, although no dealer would guarantee it.

    • WoutK89

      so as you can clearly see, no one wants 36mp… (sorry, had to say this for all the negative comments I saw around here)

      • looon

        Lol!

    • WengerIsGood

      Do you reckon a percentage of the pre-orders are Dealer stock or would they all be end user orders??

      • broxibear

        Hi WengerIsGood,
        I think all the D800s dealers get in will be going straight out as pre-orders, apart from the odd demo model which they’ll keep for themselves.
        The Nikon rep on that Scott Kelby D4 video (which was mysteriously taken down) suggested 6 months before normal stock levels would be reached, if the same is true for the D800 then some people have got a long wait ahead.

        • WengerIsGood

          Thank you Broxibear. I think I’ll keep my powder dry for the moment & see this potentially amazing camera is received by the market..
          Bit of a risk, it may be half way to obsolete by the time the shelves are filled!!!

    • GrumpyDiver

      Second shipment taking several months? That in itself sounds more than a bit strange. My guess is that Nikon will be shipping as they build (i.e. as soon as they have enough goods to fill a shipping container to a specific location). Yes, manufacturers will build up inventory for the launch, but after launch they will be rolling out the cameras as quickly as they can to meet the demand.

      At the stated production rate of 30 000 / month (assuming that they are actually achieving that); that would fill up expensive warehouse space quite quickly. I would expect to see a steady flow of cameras heading out of Japan. If any considerable inventory buildup occured for the launch quantities; we will expect to see the future deliveries look more like a steady trickle, versus the “burst” we see at lauch.

  • Sebastian

    A short prime, and it’s not DX!
    a) that sucks. (… for DXlers like me)
    b) maybe it does mean the gap between D7000 and D800 will be plugged by an FX?
    (but actually I don’t think so, given the Sony sensor for DX is there, just plug and play).

    • Jake

      This lens would give you the same FOV on a crop body if it was designated a DX lens, 28mm(42mm FOV). On our DX it may just crop the bad corners(if thats the case)

      I’m hoping for a nice prime super wide angle in the 10mm to 14mm range with little ro no distortions and CA. A f4 aperture would be just fine.

    • http://www.mikeversprill.com MikeV

      FX primes work on DX bodies no problem its dx lenses being put on fx bodies where you have issues with vignetting/dark circle or have to crop the image.

      So you can still buy this lens for your DX body. it won’t be a true 28mm lens though, it will be around 42mm on a dx body. For example.. Take the Nikon 35 1.8 DX lens designed for DX bodies – It gives you 44 degrees (field of view) on a DX body; On a FX body not in dx crop mode you get vignetting and slight pin cusion look. Now if you bought a 35 1.4g lens and put in on a DX body you also get 44 degrees (field of view) however if you put in on a FX body you get 63 degrees (field of view).
      So with that being said, this lens will work for you and you will get the same field of view whether if it was made to work with fx/dx or dx only.
      If you want a true 28mm than you need to pick up a 18 or 20 mm lens for you cropped dx body.

  • http://www.andygural.com Andy

    ‘The new lens will not have VR…’

    Surely this is hardly a surprise. Who is seriously expecting VR on a wide angle lens?

    • jastereo

      This is probably noted b/c the 16-35 has VR and the new Canon 24mm & 28mm f/2.8′s that were just announced will both be stabilized.

    • byrom

      Someone’s expecting it because nikon puts it in their wide zooms, and canon is adding it. I think it should be in the camera body though. Just because it’s wide and bright doesn’t mean it’s infinitely bright with zero shake.

      • Me

        >I think it should be in the camera body though.

        In camera VR is not the preferred option as it is both slower (you’re moving a comparatively more massive sensor daughterboard), and has a lower overall performance ceiling stop-wise; finally its results are not viewable through the viewfinder.

  • WB

    Bring a 35mm 1.8 FX AF-S on NOW!!

    • MikeV

      i agree… still want to try this focal length out though… I might like it better than 35mm and I’m sure the lens will be optically superior than my 35 f2 wide open

  • asdfcom

    That’s not wide enough. It needs to be at least 24mm. Arg.

  • R!

    28 mm is my favorite:cheep,distortion free ,always sharp and you can use it on DX and FX!!

    • R!

      …and easyer to compose with than a 24mm,the perfect focal for me and for a lot of photographer since decades.

      • R!

        …a classic.

        • MikeV

          cant wait to try it! Do you like it better then a 35mm?

          I use my 35f2 a lot and I love that lens, however indoors I usually switch to 24-70 for a wedding because the 35mm isn’t wide enough.
          I’m thinking the 28mm 1.8 on one fx body and 85 1.8 on my other fx body would probably be all I need for an entire wedding (minus macro ring shot, and some ultra wide shots of people dancing and architecture of the church/reception hall.)

  • http://slrlounge.com Matthew Saville

    As much as I would LOVE to see those 20mm and 18mm f/1.8′s instead, or just a 24 f/2, …this sounds like it could wind up being more affordable than any of those other options, and a good medium balance between ultra-wide and 35mm.

    Unfortunately, unlike a 20 or 24mm prime, a 28mm wouldn’t allow me to stop needing a 17-35, and I’d still probably wind up even switching to a 24-70 when close quarters absolutely demand the FOV. Oh well. I suppose I’ll have to suck it up and just get a 17-35 after all… I was really looking forward to an 18mm or 20mm f/1.8 for night time lapses though…

    =Matt=

  • Gab

    I wouldn’t count on it being very affordable for dx users. 28mm + Vr+ 1.8. I’d say best case scenario 700$..

    • MikeV

      The article states that it will NOT have VR so that should drop it back down.. Cant see this lens being more money than the new 85 1.8

    • ARghl

      It doesn’t come with VR!

      • Me

        >It doesn’t come with VR!

        Please tell me you’re kidding.

        • GrumpyDiver

          VR on wide angle? No; I have trouble seeing that in a design. Why would Nikon bother?

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