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Nikon D800/D800E Technical Guide now available for download

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Nikon USA now has the 20 pages Nikon D800 | D800E Technical Guide available for download. The guide includes samples and covers the basic camera functionality.

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  • Brock Kentwell

    Lesson 1: Use a Tripod

    I loled

    • Banned

      Another lol is how they say you have to use f/22 to suppress moire thanks to high diffraction… Way to put the D800E to good use…

      • Calibrator

        Read it correctly:

        “Although stopping aperture down makes the effects of diffraction more visible, it may also help to reduce color artifacts and moiré.”

        and more importantly:

        “Adjust aperture according to whether your priority is sharpness or suppressing moiré.”

    • Joe

      It should be as sturdy as possible; avoid extending the legs or center column farther than necessary. A large head helps keep the camera steady.

      And now tell me how many percent of those self-proclaimed “pro”-users out there really excel here with their stupid wobbly 100-Euro-tripods and tiny toy heads. I’m glad to have some RRS and Berlebach tripods around here.

      • Hermann Kloeti

        +1000 for Berlebach: There’s no better

        • Joe

          Absolutely! :-)

          • Gerry

            what do you know Joe! You can’t even hold your camera the right way around ;-)

        • Chrisgull

          Well… My 5-series Gitzo Mountaineer with a Burzynski ballhead ain’t too fiddly either. It’s good enough for my 8×10 monorail so perhaps it can hold a D800 still for a little while (though I have to admit that using two tripods really make a difference when it comes to ultimate sharpness).

      • Dominik

        Prefer a systematic Gitzo myself. Carbon fiber, stable, and with G-locks you can make quick adjustments.

  • Dormant

    Another way for me to waste time while waiting for delivery.

    I’m getting no work done!

    • jack

      I’m with you…

      It looks like this camera is serious hardware!

      It not only says use a tripod, it says use a tripod that is “as sturdy as possible.”

      Looks like the 055X will get some use again!

  • Money

    Looks like you will see a lot of complaints re: motion blur.

  • John

    All of this resolution is going to reveal a lot of bad technique when peeping for pixels or huge prints. All the youngsters that were weaned on VR will be schooled on steady.

    • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

      ah. high megapixels coming to mainstream. lot of people whining before even touching the camera.
      maybe D800 should have cost at least 10k just to avoid the noobs buying it and talking about it.

  • shivaswrath

    NOT positive that the first section is on minimizing Motion Blur…WTF?!

    • Money

      Is it really surprising though? This many pixels magnifies any imperfections that a 12mp sensor would be very forgiving about.

      I’m calling it now, you will see a lot of people unhappy about this camera because as noted above, it will expose bad technique that you would have been able to get away with with the D700.

      • Mike

        And one of them unhappy users wants to unload their D800 to go back to D700, I’ll be waitin’ :)

        Mike

      • Josh

        How’d people handle the D7000? Isn’t the pixel density about the same? I figured the D800 crowd would run into similar issues. Personally I went from a D40 to the D7000. I ended up learning a lot about the physical limitations of having such a dense sensor and in turn learned a lot about taking sharper cleaner images. It never made me want to ditch the D7000 though, I love that camera!

        • Zeke

          Pixel-level blur caused by camera motion is a function of the number of pixels that span a given angle of view.

          For example, a DX camera with a 24mm lens has approximately the same angle of view as an FX camera with a 35mm lens, and if both cameras have 12MP sensors, the pixel-level motion blur will be about the same.

        • Bjrichus

          I came from film to a comparatively low resolution dSLR and then onto 16MP cameras like the D7000. Learning to be rock steady (well as steady as possible) was always part of photography 101.

          Even with something as lowly as my old D3000 – let alone my D7000, I can usually see the difference in the results between me being in a rush and using ‘average’ posture and when I take extra care and am in the ‘correct’ posture and just that much more steady on my feet.

          As others are saying, I am just hating the number of threads we are going to see with people whining on that “My D800 is soft” or some other such rubbish. Oh well.

          • dave

            Check out early posts on the D7000 group on flickr. When the D7000 first came out, there were lots of complaints about soft images. It couldn’t be technique could it? noooooo…

            • http://StevenGeorges.com Steven Georges

              Not all of them. Both my co-workers (both professional photographers) bought an early production D7000 and had the same problem. I shot with theirs and noticed the same problem with both.
              My D7000, that I bought 6 months later, did not have the same problem with sharpness.

            • Calibrator

              There were some issues – mostly with non-Nikon-lenses – regarding backfocus/frontfocus, initially.
              There are probably some older, very negative Amazon buyer reviews about that, too (at least on German Amazon).
              I understand that some lenses had to be serviced to work with the D7000, others could be corrected with the right setting in the D7000 itself.

            • Sahaja

              D7000 has the same pixel pitch as the D800

          • jake

            Those same threads will be followed by “what lens should I use for my first wedding?”, “do I need flash?”, and the all too classic “I have my first wedding scheduled, how much should I charge? Do I need a second shooter?” etc, etc, etc……

        • karl

          don’t tell me you have already forgotten about all those “backfocus issues” of the first batch of D7000 users. (yes, users, not camera bodies)

          This time Nikon wants to prepare the users for the high pixel density.

        • unohu

          Josh, you’re right: the D800 won’t be subject to any more blur than the D7000 for a lens with the same focal length on either camera (e.g.: a 50mm lens on both cameras). I don’t know why Nikon is making such a big issue out of this unless it is just because people will be buying the 36mp camera after having a 12mp and they might think they can treat it the same way and get equivalent sharpness at 100%.

        • W.

          Josh,

          You are right. And let’s not forget the D5100. The potential blur from angular motion in the D800 will be no different. Both, the D5100 and D7000 have the same megapixel count.

          Much of what is being said suggests limited experience.

        • dileep

          You are right and I have been counting on that. But after reading about the shake 1.5 times bigger mirror can cause (in comparison with Dx), I’m really nervous.

          Too late for me as even I sold me expensive Dx lenses and took a 24-70mm also.

      • btdown

        wow..first page disclaimers about blur? These things are going to be returned in droves…glad I resisted the urge.

        • 700Geek

          Same here. Never buy the alpha release…..

          • jodjac

            As far as I’m concerned, the D700 was the Alpha release.

  • Sideswiped

    Botom of page 12:

    “The ISO Button
    Auto ISO sensitivity control can be
    turned on or off by pressing the
    ISO button and rotating the subcommand dial”

    This it perfect! Is this a new feature for the D4/D800? Digging through camera menus just to toggle it was such a pain. This is the main reason I never used auto iso on my D300.

    • karl

      so, does auto ISO finally consider the focal length used as well ?

      • RK

        Yes, there is an entire page in that pdf on that very subject.

  • https://plus.google.com/101673224592268042472 Frank Algermissen

    And where the hell is the one for the D4 ???

    • Jack

      I realize not everyone can read Japanese, but the quick guide and the user’s manual (all glorious ~475 pages of it) for the D4 are on the Japanese website.

  • John

    Well it depends on OUTPUT size as usual… It will look EXACVTLY the same as a D700 printed at the same size.

    Of course at 100 percent on screen (70 inches wide!) its bound to look worse if you dont have your technique correct.

    • jodjac

      @John- Really? 70″ wide? How did you get that? Not disputing your numbers, just want to know.. That’s an awfully big screen to scroll across. Wow. 70″! Wow!

      • MLN

        I guess he means that 7360 x 4912 px @72ppi = 102.22 x 68.22 inches viewed at a 100%, not that his screen is 70 inches wide.

        • jodjac

          I get it, I get it, but dang, that’s a big image. I can’t wait to see that on my screen. It will be like looking at a small billboard. I hope my computer is up to the task. Maybe Nikon should put out some recommended minimum specs for machines to edit these files. If my new computer is going to lag while editing I’ll be pretty dang upset.

          • Jodiah

            Im going to need a really big monitor to view those files at 100%! Isn’t there a way to get your flat screen TV to behave like a computer monitor? I think my tv has a PC monitor input. That should work.

            • http://ryankoehlerportfolio.com rkoehler

              Yeah, but your tv only displays images up to 1920×1080. It won’t do you any better than most computer monitors. And color correctness and other factors make that a poor monitor choice.

  • alvix

    “use a tripod to reduce blur when photographing static subjects”…wow .this is GREAT advice! for someone that spends $3000 for a camera…ahah

    • alvix

      oops..just posted…slight delay in the page refresh…eheh

    • UncleDusty

      My thoughts exactly…I’m hoping this is ignorance on Nikon’s part with respect to the D800/D800E customer-base and not a mega-blur disclaimer. Much of this “Technical Guide” is borderline-insulting with the exception of the new ISO controls.

  • ooooooo

    WHEN I CAN USE A 135 1.8 AF-S ????????

  • FM2Fan

    Thanks at Nikon for the document – it shows exactly: a fool with a tool is still …
    … it will take extra caution and care to get optimal and better results than with previous cams

    • VcBabis

      +1
      This book is like back to photography lessons 101
      I bet there won’t be such an “amateur” guide book for the D4…

      • FM2Fan

        Probably yes, but only provided in a neutral envelope – sits at your dealer under the counter. “ah – you need one” “no – yes – no – yes – let me reflect on it” – rationale: if you can’t take advise, then you unlikely develop any further – such tools demand you doing so -

  • http://www.flickr.com/groups/d800_club/ NikonCoupleSoFlo

    They recommend shooting with a tripod and VR lenses when possible…does this mean a new 24-70mm f2.8 VR is coming out?

    • north

      They didn’t recommend shooting with VR lenses. They simply noted how to properly use VR lenses with a tripod. Hardly a recommendation.

  • http://carlosdavid.ca Carlos David

    Tripod NOT optional. Mirrors up everyone we’re setting sail om the HMS D800.

    • Pete

      Aye-aye, Sir! Full ahead towards photography basics. Very refreshing.

    • 120-300 OS for Nikon

      Aye-aye Sir wel i served on the Hr.Ms. Rotterdam L800 never thinking this comment numbers years later realy funny guys

  • Jack

    Use of high f numbers will let diffraction do the job of the AA filter. Never thought of that. Cool beans.

    • My_D800_On_March_22

      Stopping down on D800 is more difficult than the D3s/D3/D700 if you want to keep your image sharp –
      1) you will want a higher shutter speed to reduce blur (if shot hand held),
      2) the slightly less stellar per-pixel ISO performance compared to the 12MP sensors means you don’t stop down as easily either.
      Stopping down would definitely work for the tripod shooter however.

      • johnmotts

        “the slightly less stellar per-pixel ISO performance compared to the 12MP sensors”

        Do you honestly think that the D800 image when blown up to three times the size of a D700 image should look better?

  • My_D800_On_March_22

    Looking through the D800E section I think the answer between D800/D800E is pretty clear – unless you shoot wild landscape or wildlife entirely, D800E is not going to be what you want.

    Looking through the D800E section would be enough to dissuade a lot of family folks (city/kids/brides) from the D800E.

    Thanks to the Admin to make the choice easy now.

    • Gerry

      I am still hung up on this one. I use a Leica M9 which doesn’t have an AA filter. I have NEVER had a problem with moire….not once! I think moire is going to vary from design to design. Because this is a new angle and also this is a new camera who knows how many shots will be exposed to this problem!! My guess is 99%+ shots won’t have any moire…..but also 99%+ shots won’t notice significant improvement without the filter…..unless you have specialised use.

      I think waiting a few months and seeing what people say would be a good move if you are considering this option.

      • Alan

        I think that’s about right. Look at the moire examples given– would you have detected them in your Leica images? Maybe the Japanese model, if you didn’t mistake it for natural fringing off the gold thread, but the rooftop behind the boat?

        My view is this: Moire and aliasing are a pain to remove once you notice it (even that screen shot looks like the color fringing is removed but not the intensity pattern). 36MP is a *lot* of resolution. If I had a choice between a 36MP D800E and a slightly cheaper 32MP D800E with improved moire suppression technology, which would I pick?

        I think the D800 is that cheaper D800E with slightly less resolution and slightly better moire suppression.

        I think the problem is that people are looking at the D800E as “top of the line” and then get busy up-selling themselves.

  • T.I.M

    I love the page #16, now I can show my wife that I need more lenses to complete my collection !

    It’s nice to see all mines are already in the list ! (14-24mm, 24-70mm, 105mm, 200mm)
    :o

    • Arthur S.

      LOL, T.I.M.! You and me both… once I get her over the shock of another new camera!

      • T.I.M

        @Arthur S.
        Just tell her that the D800 was supposed to be release 3 years ago, it won’t sound like a new camera to her !
        :o

        • FX DX

          I used the same technique on my wife when I upgraded from D90 to D700. I told her that I bought a used camera that doesn’t even make videos.

    • jodjac

      Why aren’t any of the new 1.8 primes (G) on the list, not even the new 85 F1.8 G- I would have thought they would list those, don’t you think?

      • Calibrator

        Do a price comparison…

  • JLM

    The motion blur is one thing, what about them not recommending to stop down past f8 or 11.Yikes

    • north

      ….with 14-24mm ;) I don’t think I ever had to stop that lens down passed f10. I might have a few images with f14, but it’s unnecessary. This isn’t anything new, IMO.

      • JLM

        I guess you just have 1 lens!

  • NICK

    okay…. how many novices are buying a D800? that said.

    “step one” use a tripod. ( i know this has already been said by many commentors,) but I seriously wonder if this cvamera is of any use to a streetshooter or hand held photographer? dont get me wrong i love bokeh (controlled blur).. so will this be a dream cream machine??? lets hope so… and before i dump my current body for this new MEGAPIXEL behmoth, i think i will wait till the word hits the street on AF functionality in real world conditions.

    we all might be well advised to take a wait and see approach to this D800/800E and be aptient till the new D400 hits the market and see what it has to offer: i hear it will be a full frame body unlike the D300 with a 16.2 MP sensor trickled down from the new D4 with killer ISO.

    it seams there are huge gaps left with the loss of the D3s and the D700 in the present lineup that begs for a camera to fill this void. Nikon are not gonig to let Canio caspitalize on this gap in the nikon lineup

    • Seric

      I doubt you are hearing from any reputable sources that the D400 will be a fullframe camera. The economics of sensor manufacturing are just not there yet. The only people I’ve ever heard claim that the D400 might be full frame are wishful thinkers. And as such I would not make any purchasing decisions with their thoughts at mind. If a bookie would take the best, I’d put $5k down today that the D300 replacement will not have a fullframe sensor.

      • vertigo

        I find it hard to believe that at this point it’s too expensive to make a full sensor. I would be more than happy with a 12mp sensor in a D400, assuming it could do video, it would be fine. I don’t really want my images to be enormous anyway. I want to take pictures at night. Now please explain to me why it’s easier to make a 16mp DX sensor and an FX 12 MP sensor? The pixels would be bigger and easier to manufacture.

        • Alan

          Doesn’t matter what the pixel size is. Silicon is costed by the wafer and you can fit almost 2.5x as many DX sensors on a wafer as FX, so already you’re at a cost of 2.5x. Then you need to account for yield– every wafer has an expected number of defects, which you can think of as losing that number of sensors. Same number of defects means you’re throwing away 2.5x as much wafer area due to bad sensors.

          Then there’s the unrelated issue of pushing the user into buying more expensive FX glass.

          • vertigo

            Nonsense. I have all FX glass and I’m waiting for a reasonable FX that does video. There is none. I still don’t buy your argument. There aren’t THAT many DX lenses. Most of them are zooms and you can just zoom in a little to remove the vignetting. The camera makers are just controlling the industry. People want FX sensors.

            As for the 2.5x, the sensor is only part of the cost. 2.5 is not an exponential number, you know.

        • john

          I hope they use the d4 sensor and cut the auto-focus ability, the ability to use 2 cards, the 100% viewfinder and the useless video function so we can finally have a true d700 successor!

        • Seric

          The photosites, which you call pixels are not the manufacturing problem. The density of these photosites is the area in which manufacturing techniques are improving, allowing for improvements without an increase in cost. Unfortunately Sensor size is not the same thing, A fullframe sensor measures 864mm squared. A 1.5x crop sensor measures 262mm squared. These sensors are manufactured on wafers.

          Semiconductor manufacturing absorbs quite a bit of loss due to defects in the wafers. This isn’t so big a deal with smaller sensors, since there are so many on the wafer. With fewer sensors on a wafer, a small defect wastes a larger percentage of the yield. So if a wafer averages 3 defects, instead of losing 786mm squared of yield, they lose 2,492mm squared of wafer yield.

          In short, even if sensors became much cheaper to manufacture, the cost of a larger sensor will always be substantially more than the cost of a smaller sensor. Then there are other issues to take into effect like the motors that raise and lower larger mirrors, larger shutters, etc… When dealing with the inertia of larger components costs tend to go up as well.

          • vertigo

            I don’t think a motor has much to do with cost. I have an old N60 film camera and it was a budget camera, like many others, and they still could raise a full frame mirror and even advance a roll of film many years ago. Give me a break.

            Let’s exclude all excuses away from the actual sensor because they’re irrelevant. Let’s focus 100% on the sensor cost and don’t bring up how expensive motors and FX lenses are because it’s all been done before with film and the market is full of FX lenses. So now, since you’re so good at math, and assuming your numbers are legitimate, how much of a difference is that really?

          • vertigo

            Even with your argument on yield, which is one that I didn’t think mattered that much, it still would make sense to me that larger and fewer pixels would result in less defects, whereas, smaller and more pixels means more of a chance of defects and more of a chance that a defect would damage the function of a pixel or the entire sensor.

      • Bob from Ohio

        I’d put $5k down today, AGAINST A DIME, that the D300 replacement will not have a fullframe sensor.

        • vertigo

          I would not put it past Nikon to limit technology to make a buck.

  • tonyc123

    Take care using NX2 moire reduction. It is quite destructive, color bleed across the rest of the image. Easier to sort it out in PS.

  • http://www.nikonquebec.com Ben Audet

    I was just wondering… …any place to find the FRENCH version of this technical guide, so far?
    Thanks in advance!!

    • T.I.M

      @Ben Audet
      Ask T.I.M !
      Que veux tu savoir ?

      • http://www.nikonquebec.com Ben Audet

        @T.I.M: Simplement où trouver ce guide, mais en français?? ;) Sur Nikon Québec, certains membres sont unilingues français, et ils le demanderont…

        • T.I.M

          @Ben Audet,
          Il faudra peut-être attendre quelques semaines pour que la version Française soit disponible, avez-vous contacté Nikon Canada ?

  • Sam the Joubster

    I just pre-ordered a D800, I know I won’t be disapointed… Might need to shoot 1 or 2 Fstops faster but hey, I can live with that. Who looks at images FULL size anyway? If it’s web, it’s downsampled and if it’s a BIG print, then it’s made to be seen from far away… Rock on life.

    • Pete

      “Who looks at images FULL size anyway? If it’s web, it’s downsampled and if it’s a BIG print, then it’s made to be seen from far away”
      Why would you want 36MP then? Just curious.

      • Jack

        I want 36MP. I do a lot of product shots for operator’s manuals. With 36 MP I can take one shot and crop out the various portions of the shot I need for explaining various features, and have everything with the same perspective, making it easier for the user to follow. I tried this on lower MP cameras and found when I crop too much I get little squares. That never happened with film. So the D800 is the first film replacement camera for industrial photographers at a reasonable price.

        • JLM

          I shoot product as well as people, and I’m on the list for an 800, thinking the same thing, a lot of my work goes to print and larger files are wanted,but reading thats it not recommended to stop down past 8 or 11, when shooting products I may be stopping down to 22, 32 depending on angle. I’m rethinking about my purchase, better off with the D4, presently shooting with the D3s which is great for stills, I just wanted more advanced shooting in video.

    • T.I.M

      @Sam the Joubster
      You “just pre-order a D800″ ?
      That will make a nice christmas gift !
      :o

  • UA

    Eh.. the tripod advice is just A lesson.. for static objects.. and they talk 1/15s or slower shutter speeds. On moving objects or “portrait lessons”, they start from focusing. Go figure..

    Of course, the “use tripod” is a good joke and definetly motion blur and missfocus will be more evident with higher pixel count at 100% crop level. But you can always downscale, if you screw up and now there is plenty of pixels to get rid of :-). Also, more pixels means more data for post processing sharpening -> you can do more fixing magic afterwards.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/markdstump/ Mark Stump

    Downloaded it,
    read it,
    liked it!

    Thanks again Nikon Rumors

    • T.I.M

      @Mark Stump,

      You’re right, NR are the best !

      If you would like to donate, I accept Paypal, money orders, personal checks, Euros, pesos, and Suiss franc.
      :o

  • kede

    Tame the beast! Challenge accepted!

  • Doug

    Just look at page 6, does it look like the Network connection of the D4(Besides the speed), wait the d800 is a USB 3.0 4Gbps, well what’s the difference between this and the D4 Network connection????

  • Crimed

    It’s interesting what lenses they are NOT recommending – such as the relatively new 28-300 VR which a lot of enthusiasts use for travel.

    • Crimed

      I see that Ken Rockwell just posted his recommended lenses for the D800 and the 28-300 heads the list even though Nikon doesn’t put it on theirs. One would think with this being the least expensive FX camera (assuming the 700 is discontinued) that Nikon wouldn’t imply criticism of one of their more popular FX lenses.

      • Alan

        Rockwell has a pretty strong preference for convenience. You’ll notice half his website is dedicated to denigrating tripods, but Nikon starts talking about needing a good tripod on page 1. He’s not all that worried about the last tenth pixel of sharpness, he’s more interested in being mobile and getting a shot.

        • Ray

          Hadn’t noticed that. His whole site seems to be more of an elaborate troll against lenses without apeture control.

          • jodjac

            Not to mention his rant against compact florescent light bulbs. Crimny, what year is he living in? Hasn’t he heard you can get color corrected light bulbs that are florescent? What do they use in Hollywood, those antique tungsten Klieg lights? No, they use giant color corrected florescent light bulbs. Nice light.

        • RK

          which as much as the guy comes across as an idiot on other matters is a genuine preference to have

    • FM2Fan

      because you should by from the list of recommended ones – by chance the higher priced models …

  • Nikonsniper

    Who does Nikon think is buying this camera , cool pix shooters ? WTF

    • fred

      Rich diletantes with lots of time in their hands and who complain loudly on Internet forums when things don’t go their way.

      • Dan

        Just curious. What do you define as a pro vs semi-pro vs amateur? Do you base it on their profession? The quality of their photos? What makes a person a diletantes vs a non-diletantes? I’m not a pro but I like technology. I think advances in photography are fascinating. I will therefore probably buy one of these cameras (either D800 (probably not) or D4 (probably)) because I can afford it and I like the results that I get. Do you see anything wrong with that? I am not a photojournalist either. Could you please stop classifying people who want his camera as either professionals or rich wannabes? So annoying……

        • fred

          > What do you define as a pro vs semi-pro vs amateur?

          I don’t bother defining those. Most professionals suck anyway. However rich diletantes who complain loudly on the Internet when things don’t go their way is a definable group that I think explains Nikon’s pedestrian “technical” brochure. Differ?

    • Bob from Ohio

      I’m buying a D800E and I am about as “rookie” as you can possibly imagine. I can literally let my cameras sit two years between picking one up for any reason. And when I do, it is usually only for a trip or an excursion of some type.

      So YES, rookies are going to be buying this camera.

    • Jack

      Could I offer another reasonable explanaition as to why Nikon feels this is necessary reading? We hired a very talented young photographer for my daughter’s wedding. But I was surprised that all he knows, and knows very well, is digital photography. He didn’t have a film camera in his bag. I think a lot of the younger advanced amateurs,semi-pros, and even maybe some newly minted pros do not know film. The lessons in this book take me back to the old camera shop owner who first patiently explained what I needed to do to shoot with Kodachrome II.
      Nikon realizes that, like the D7000, they have a camera that will close to film grain size in resolution, and people will want to relearn the skills they need to fully take advantage of it.
      Could be wrong though. I usually am,as my wife will tell you.

  • twoomy

    Funny so many comments about motion blur and needing to use a tripod. These are the EXACT same comments that everybody was saying back in 2004 when the D2X came out and those massive 12mp were scaring everybody who were used to 4-6mp.

    Now, many people can hold and shoot a 12mp camera in their hands and take crisp photos. Amazing!

    Have no fear that in the following months, many people will learn how to hold the D800 in their hands and take sharp photos at reasonable shutter speeds. :)

  • Stefan

    Neither the new AF-S 85/1.8 nor the AF-S 50/1.4 seem to support “enhanced sharpness”. Or they filtered for lenses above 1000 Euro (plus the 2 macros) to make sure that the D800 buyers don’t stop spending money on lenses ;-)

    • Patrik

      One of the sample photos for the D3x is taken by the AF-S 50. The D800 is in the same league so it’ll do OK. Having owned one, my complaint is the slooooow focussing. What’s the point of all that AF technology when the lens takes forever to get there? Here’s hoping for a better lens with the motor from the 24-70. That one clicks into focus, but I’m not a fan of its ‘bokeh’.

      Anybody have anything to say about the AF-S 60? Seems that it takes sharp photos, but how’s it’s focus speed and ‘bokeh’?

  • NICK

    No reputable sources! Just rumors for which this site is famous but look at all the reliable rumors so far. Not to belabor the point but the gap for a high ISO camera in this range will need to be filled by whatever it ends up being called, sure it may not be the D400 but it will have to be made or Nikon could risk losing a good part of its market sector to a company like Canon.

  • http://www.pbase.com/reimar Reimar

    I wonder how it could be that the D800E kimono shot on Nikon’s website is perfectly clear of moire, while from the same shoot, this booklet shows some horrible color moire for the E.

    • fred

      One of those is retouched. Let’s hope it’s the picture in the brochure.

  • Ben

    Anyone have any idea what the Auto ISO slider does…. see the bottom of p14 (marked as p12 in the book). The table says mimum shutter speed, then gives the option to choose whether to prioritize shutter speed or ISO. In the D700 ISO goes to the max before dropping shutter speed at all… does this mean the camera can decide to lower shutter speed before maximizing the ISO? Anyone know anything about this or have any thoughts about it.

    Thanks

  • Joe

    Interesting: None of their current PC-E lenses seems to be especially recommended for the D800!

    • Dweeb

      +1

    • tks

      Probably just showing normal lenses. PC-e are listed as specialty lenses by Nikon.
      One of the D800 Nikon sample shots is from the 45 PC-e.

      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        +1 Have no fear – the 24mm f/3.5 and 45mm f/2.8 are probably two of the best pieces of glass to come out of Nikon. In fact if anything has a chance with that 35MP sensor I guarantee that these two lenses are absolutely top of the list… Just take a look at the MTF charts for the 24mm PC-E and compare it to say the 1.4G.

        • Patrik

          I would have to say that the 45 is my faviorite of the three, followed by the 85 then the 24 (stocked up on all three while I waited for the D700 replacement!). The 45 handles f/16 before loosing it at f/22, I guess we’ll need f/11 as max on a D800. All three will be fine on a D800.

          P.S. One trick is to mod. a TC14E so that it will mount (stupid design limitation! and these are not even AF-S lenses!) That gives you 24, 35, 45, 60, 85 AND 120mm PC-E’s! The 45 does very well with this, that’s why I know it’ll have no problem on the D800! Now, I wonder how the 85 would handle the TC20EIII…

          • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

            I agree about the 45, I think it’s the prince for sure. That extender idea is not one I’ve contemplated before – have you got any example images Patrik?

  • Ian

    I shoot landscapes but most of my work is commercial – product images, models and architecture. I have been using a D3 but will be more than happy to add a D800 as a second body rather than a D800E. Can’t wait to get hold of one.

  • Photo-Jack

    Any different Link available?
    This one is broken

  • broxibear

    D700 to be manufactured for the ‘foreseeable future,’ says Nikon…
    “Nikon now plans to manufacture the D700 “for the foreseeable future,” says Nikon USA senior product lifecycle manager Lindsay Silverman. ”
    http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11674-12354

    • Dweeb

      The D100 hung on for eternity.

    • Calibrator

      “for the foreseeable future”

      = as long as they still have parts (on order) to build them. Delivery and/or price contracts are very “foreseeable”.

    • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

      This is awesome news, not least because it helps maintain the prices in the 2nd hand market when I come to let my D700 go. Truth is, I’m now trying to fund a cash purchase for my D800E because despite my plan to sell the D700 originally, I’m genuinely having massive feelings that this is the wrong choice now. It would still be a spectacular 2nd body and where portraiture is concerned who wants to shoot at 36MP anyway?

    • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

      Yes, Nikon France said the same thing yesterday – I am just not sure if they will still produce it in Japan since they have those new laws for the battery and the D700 is listed as discontinued on Nikon Japan.

  • sand

    Did anybody looked at liveview description(P4)..It seems to be a really useful function now. You can focus anywhere..Great…As far as DOF is concerned go for PCE or stacking.. Hmm Need to learn a lot with this cam..can’t wait.

    • http://frisianphotography.wordpress.com FrisianPhotography

      Yeah, was surprised about that too, don’t remember seeing it mentioned in any of the press releases or previews – pretty neat.

  • Crimed

    D700 in stock now at AMAZON – $2699. Maybe it’s not discontinued.

  • Gary

    The model in the wedding dress is wearing contact lenses. If you download the full res image from the website they show up clearly. Wow. This is going to be a fun camera.

  • Michael

    I cannot open the PDF. Message: The file is damaged
    Can anyone provide another link

    • Robin

      It seems you are deemed unfit, with unsteady hands. You are unworthy of the D800/E

      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        lol.

  • Doug

    Do any of you know if it will come with the NX2 software?????

  • Doug

    capture nx2 i mean

    • jodjac

      @ Doug- My understanding (by no means authoritative), is that Capture NX-2 comes with the D800E along with the new miore removal tool. No mention of it coming with the D800. Just a rumor I remember reading somewhere…

      • Doug

        Thanks

      • http://www.russbarnes.co.uk RussB

        Yep, that’s my take on it too. It won’t be provided for the standard D800 but it part of the premium cost of the D800E if you ask me, making it look better value for money.

  • John The Digby

    Why don’t they just sell the D800/800E welded to a f**king tripod!

    • UncleDusty

      +1

  • Janet McDowell

    The D800: King of the live view! They should just do away with the mirror, have an electronic view finder and e done with it.

    Pass on this one, nothing to see here.

  • Felix

    Hello

    I’m looking for some advice on this camera. I have been asked to shoot a friends wedding in 6 months. I am quite nervous about this as have never shot a wedding before. I thought I might be able to improve my pictures by buying this camera.

    Any thoughts? Will this help me take better pictures?

    I’m using a Canon G9 at the moment, will it be a big step up?

    • Ben

      Big step up is an enormous understatement. You should probably plan to at least couple your purchase with the 24-120 f4 lens… or if your pockets are more flush then the 24-70 and 70-200 would be very helpful… especially if the wedding is going to be indoors.

      You’d probably be better off getting the D800 than the D800E especially if you aren’t into doing a lot of post processing on your images. Oh, and make sure you order now… or you may not have it by the wedding. Have fun!

    • Pierre

      D800 may not be the best camera for wedding. Perhaps you should consider a D700 or a D3s (even renting),they are available now so it will give you some time to practice.

      A D4 would probably be better for hand-held outdoor/indoor wedding shots. The D800 should be reserved for these static on full-light shots.

      I agree with the learning curve, up to a point, you could shoot full auto in raw and still get good result if you understand the basics about aperture, speed, focus and ISO, which is the same with any machine. Even the worst possible WB can easily be corrected in post-processing.

    • UncleDusty

      Felix,
      I think anyone who tells you that buying this camera will make your photography better without taking some photography lessons or a class is doing you a great disservice. If you have the funds for a decent class/lessons, a D800 and a suitable lens, awesome! Take the class/lessons, probably with a more available DSLR (D700, D7000) for time’s sake, as you should get started ASAP! If you feel you you need more or different equipment after the class or lessons, you can compensate budget restrictions, if any, with your choice of DSLR body. You shouldn’t have trouble unloading a body in good shape with low actuations on ebay for a decent price. Best wishes!

      • UncleDusty

        …I really hope you were being sarcastic.

    • enesunkie

      @Felix I think they’re taking you seriously ! :)

      • Felix

        Sorry it was meant as a bit of a laugh but I guess maybe too subtle.

        That said, it was nice to see some people writing constructive, helpful comments rather than giving me sh#t for being such an amateur.

        So to those who wrote helpful comments…..Thanks and keep it up :-)

        • Pete

          Hilarious!

    • Alfonso

      Just upgrade to a P7100 And you are ready to go!

  • C

    Very negative guide.

    It is guide for warning amateur peoples not to complain
    - when motion blur occurs because your hands are not steady
    - when you do not have good focusing concept
    - buy most expensive lenses for D800
    - moire cannot be viewed in camera LCD, do not shock when you see it back home!

    All the short comings above will be 3 times more obvious than D700 / D3 like because the resolution is much higher.

    Nikon just warn people you need to have professional photography skill and knowledge before buying it. Nikon expect that there will be so many complaints from casual photographer.

    • Doug

      No offence but the US Nikon website is brain numbing.

    • FanBoy

      In no time, we will see tons of Refurbished D800/D800E on NikonStore thanks to those returns.

      • Rams

        Exactly ! Just because a new 36MP Nikon is announced, doesnt mean people have to go gaga over it and overload all the online websites with pre-orders ! Some guys have multiple cameras pre-ordered from all available stores !

        Why don’t people wait for the initial batch of cameras and reviews to be out, before clogging online stores with orders !

  • Bjorn

    Felix,

    Its a HUGE step up and it will be very alien to you. I suggest you dont go buy a 3k pro nikon body if you havent had any DSLR experience previously. Id purchase something smaller maybe a 3100,5100 or even a 7000 to start see from there if investing in a nikon full frame is for you. What makes great photographs is the photographer not the camera. All a camera does is give you more conviences over the other but a crappy image is a crappy image if it was shot on a G12 or a D4. I say learning the basics and having some experience with the camera and its features first before venturing into it more. You are asking a lot if you are going to be shooting a wedding with out any DSLR experience. Hope that helps and good luck with the Wedding.

    • Pierre

      I do not intend to be rude but I am growing so tired or these ‘great photographs is the photographer not the camera’ nonsense comments. I find them to be total bull. Even a retarded using his usual skill would produce better photo with a better machine, given he is not totally brain-dead or unmotivated.

      The best photographer in the world would get junk result out of a junk camera. Pointing-out the fact that he would score better than the worst photographer with the best equipment is such an obvious, cheap and lame truth-telling.

      I am fine with people using this excuse to comfort themselves with their choice of shooting with obsolete or low end but I am totally allergic to it when it is used to discourage people from embracing higher art. If you can afford it, buy the better machine, it will give you plenty of room to grow. If you are not that interested in photography, then stay with IPhones.

      • NICK

        Pierre Well said.

      • FanBoy

        A better camera means much a heavier camera. Of course, it makes better pictures because it takes shakes out of your hands. F^ck the photog nonsense, D4 is smarter than 99.99999% of all photogs.

      • Uwe

        +1

  • Jon foster

    Well, First get a tripod! This ain’t no D700 replacement… I wonder what is.

    • Doug

      It is in fact a Baby D3X, i think that they gonna wait a bit longer this time to launch
      a baby D4, thus not making the same mistake that they made with the D3/D700. Because we all know here especially the ones that managed to work with both cameras, that the D700 was a baby D3.

  • mike

    I’m not worried at all about motion blur. I shoot with strobes. I can take my D700 and literally spin my body around in a circle and snap a shot off and the image is sharp with zero blur. It’s all about flash duration. The D800 isn’t a walk-around/photojournalism camera. Last time I checked, studio shooters use off-camera lighting and landscape shooters use tripods. Blur shouldn’t be an issue for the camera’s intended audience.

    • AXV

      But I’ll be shooting my vacation and family photos with it.
      Why? Because I can!

      • WengerIsMad

        Go for it. Better still, get a Leica S2 and show them you really love them! :-)

  • Dan7919

    Im curious, for shooting say a 50mm handheld, what would people recomend for shutter speed? I know it depends on alot of factors, but just in terms of handheld portrait shots.
    Also, would would people recomend fstop wise on the 50mm 1.4g for sharpness/dof compromise, maybe something like f2.8?

    • Seric

      I usually go for about 1/60 when shooting reasonably still portraits with Normal lenses. I find my 50mm 1.4g gets significantly sharper at 2.8 and peaks at f4. However I tend to live with f2 most of the time for the depth of field.

    • Tom Christiansen

      Im curious, for shooting say a 50mm handheld, what would people recomend for shutter speed? I know it depends on alot of factors, but just in terms of handheld portrait shots.

      Ansel Adams said that with a normal 50mm lens on a 35mm camera, shooting handheld and blowing up detailed shots to look for motion blur in fine detail, that he had to go all the way up to 1/250s before he could no longer see any blur at all anymore — and that was with the very best of handheld technique. He said with a 100mm lens, to make that faster than 1/500s.

      If that seems extreme, remember that he wasn’t making little wallet-sized prints, but enlargements. And he had a very high standard.

      Most people have lower standards, so it won’t matter so much to them.

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