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Nikon SB-900 vs. SB-910 Speedlight comparison

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A quick comparison between the Nikon SB-900 and the new SB-910 Speedlight flashes. First the specs differences:

Nikon SB-900 Nikon SB-910
Dimensions 3.0x5.7x4.7in. (78.0x146.0x118.5mm) 3.1x5.7x4.4in. (78.5x145x113mm)
Weight 14.6 oz. (415g) 14.8 oz. (420g)
Other Available Functions AF-assist illuminator AF-assist illumination for multi-point AF
Ready Light Front, Back Front
Other Functions Thermal cut-out Improved Thermal Cut-out
Price $494.95 $549.95

On the back of the SB-910 a new menu button replaces the previous zoom button. In the press release Nikon mentioned only two SB-910 improvements over the SB-900:

  • the SB-910 provides more efficient battery usage as well as an enhanced Thermal Cut-Out function
  • the SB-910 uses new hard-type color compensation filters for fluorescent and incandescent color temperature balancing

Here is a list of the specs that are 100% identical in both SB-900 and SB-910 (based on the specs published on Nikon's website):

  • Guide Number
  • Lens Coverage
  • Bounce Function (Tilt)
  • Bounce Function (Rotate)
  • Commander Function
  • Remote Function
  • Electronic Construction
  • Flash Exposure Control
  • Illumination pattern
  • Minimum Recycling Time
  • Flash Duration
  • Required Power Source
  • Optional Power Supply
  • Flash-ready Indicator
  • Flash Compensation
  • Custom Setting
  • Minimum Number of Flashes / Recycling Time
  • Wireless Flash Modes
  • Wireless Communication Channels
  • Wireless Groups

 

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  • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

    New, improved, and no big deal. Better than nothing, I suppose.

    • Sundal

      You’re wrong, it’s better nothing than overkill more expensive stuff

      • Steve

        They should have at least called it the SB900s and painted it white with a silver Nikon logo – then it is a clear annual upgrade for fanboys – except of course Apple have patented white and are preparing to sue all paper manufacturers.

        • Steven Robinson

          Truely a pointless upgrade. Yawn.

          • Moth Flopwell

            You Sir are 100% correct. Nikon you made a $53 dollar improvement…you just changed the name. Nikon, you should be ashamed of yourself.

            • jk

              I think the improved thermal shutdown is worth it IMO. Sometimes I would pay much more given the headaches it has caused at times.

              I would gladly pay an extra $50 to add that feature to my current sb900′s..

              The only thing that sucks is that is not possible and in order to gain that fix I have to shell out another $550 +.
              for a completely new unit.

              This almost draws attention to the fact that Nikon didn’t make the best decisions with the 900′s design. I feel that the thermal fix should be more of a recall and not an upgrade. But we all know that would never happen.

              If I look at the 910 as an upgrade to an already awesome flash then I think it is acceptable if I look at it as “error fixing” then I feel taken advantage of.

        • http://www.hancu.com Adrian

          I absolutely agree with this!

      • http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com Ron Scubadiver

        But I was first, so that makes me right.

    • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

      meet all the new 910, same as old 900

      • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

        if it would at least have 5 bateries, place is there for it, instead of that noobfriendly revolver battery holder. Even better, make it with snap in cartridge for 5 bateries, and put two empty cartridges to package.
        Then i will pay even 999Eur.
        Before then? well you can keep it and i am staying with stock pile of ebay SB-800s

        • T.I.M

          @Horold Ellis
          5 batteries is a pain because most Nimh chargers takes 4 at the time only.

          • JorPet

            The very reason I got the La Crosse Technologies charger. It’s four channel, so can charge a singe battery at a time. Prior to that I was always having one battery not charged and it was a pain.

            • T.I.M

              @JorPet
              I have the same one (great charger), but you still can’t charge 5 batteries at the same time.
              You have to wait 10-12 hours before being able to charge the 5th one

            • Fourbeer

              I agree with your statement about 5 batteries, but why is it taking you 10-12 hours to charge? The charge rate for NiMh is 0.5C. 2000maH Eneloops should charge in about three hours or less.

            • T.I.M

              @Fourbeer
              Sure, but a 10-12 hours charge make your batteries last longer.
              I only use fast charges in case of emergency.

            • B!

              Wrong! Joing the CPF Forum and educate yourself.

            • Rob

              Slow charging will not make your batteries last longer. In fact it will probably do the opposite.

          • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

            why would i care?
            Eneloops don’t discharge so i have one box with charged and one with discharged bateries.
            Always take for my wedding enough from charged pool and on the end put them into discharged pool. Once there is few left, i charge them on 8 accu charger which takes even single one when needed.
            5 accus means 25+% more available capacity and faster charging times with less current needed – this results in longer accu life, lower temperature, and more capacity (as there is less loss).

            • Calibrator

              “Eneloops don’t discharge”

              Off course they do. Only not as quick as other batteries.
              Also: The new more powerful Eneloops discharge quicker than the standard Eneloops.

        • 12

          The fifth battery is all relative.

          The sb900 with 4 batteries is faster than an sb800 with five.

          Whats next 6 batteries? What if the flash was insanely powerful and used one watch battery… Would you then be complaining for 2 car batteries? Where does it end.

          The improved thermal shut down is worth the money alone. However the 900 was so bad this fix almost warrants a recall and not an upgrade.

          • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

            see my post above.

            and no, SB900 is as huge that it could already as well have LiOn block or 6 accus

            • Calibrator

              True.
              My D7000 feels tiny compared to it.

        • jk

          5 batteries means nothing! It is recycle times that matter. I don’t care if the flash runs wireless off the watch battery on my wrist!!!

      • http://www.ianivey.com Virginia Wedding

        I’d pay the extra $55 if they somehow internalized the gels, with a switch on the flash head you could throw to get CTO or CTG without having to carry around extra pieces. Now THAT would be an improvement.

        At least they addressed the thermal cutoff issue.

        • http://Www.novumlucis.com Dr SCSI

          Funny how Nikon fixes thermal issues and then charge you $55 more for the repair. I don’t call that an improvement, it is a fix for a faulty design in the original SB-900. At least with my two 900′s, I never had the issue show itself. Nikon should offed all those who registered their SB-900 a $100 discount and if the had ever filed a warranty claim for their SB-900, then a $200 discount or 1 for 1 exchange on a new SB-910! That would impress me!

          • Dr SCSI

            “Offered” not offed!

  • http://www.photologicimages.com joe

    I wonder if the old 900 can handle the 910 hard gels… Can’t see why it wouldn’t, and it’d be a fair sight easier to mount in the dark… but then you have the problem of carrying at least 4 hard gels.

    Like everything else in photography, push & pull I guess…

    • Matt B

      I doubt it. My 700 has the hard gels, and it has grooves in the bottom of the flash to not only allow the gels to click on but also to recognise what gel is on there so it can adjust white balance. You might be able to modify the gels so they slide on instead of snapping on, but they are thin so would probably fall off easily.

      • http://micahmedia.com Micah

        Several $6 sheets of gel have lasted me about 7 years. A hard clip to hold them on might be nice, but it’s not necessary. They never fall out, and I can’t use them up fast enough.

        Try this or some of the other colors: http://www.adorama.com/RO3407.html

      • LGO

        “I wonder if the old 900 can handle the 910 hard gels…”

        Yes it can. This is specifically mentioned in Nikon’s website. There will be no auto-switching of WB when used on the SB900 (which is what I prefer anyway) but these will fit.

  • SoftOnDemand

    Frustrated at my 900 burning out on me at last night’s dinner event. I made everyone wait cuz I needed to change batteries and disable the overheat alert while they were posing for a photograph. Talk about embarrassment. Hope the 910 isn’t the same.. Going to wait for some reviews whether or not to purchase the 910.

    • Tombo

      My 900 did this to me 3 years ago, that was the last night’s work it ever saw, i sold it the next day.

      I pulled my 800 out of its box and never looked back. I have no interest in spending that much money on a flash that wimps out on me when it gets uncomfortable. Thermal cut-off on my sb-800 is when i can smell the plastic burning and i know to slow down. If my client needs me to melt my fresnel into oblivion thats what i should be able to deliver!

      • gt

        are you aware that your sb-800 is just as capable as burning out as your sb-900? the only difference is that the SB-900 warns you…

        • G

          The point is, that the SB-800 still lets you keep shooting for those super-critical shots, whilst the SB-900 stops.

          Sure it may be a design flaw in that you can melt your flash, but you won’t miss those shots = you WILL get paid

          And plus, the SB-800 will warn you…by filling your nostrils with the smell of burning plastic

          • Nikonmoaners

            Its a good point. Obviously Nikon have made the thermal cut off with a LOT of leeway for insurance/liability reasons. You could probably double the amount of flashes before any permanent damage is done.

            Like any safety limit device theses days, it will have a large buffer thrown in.

          • Brandon

            I’m almost positive than you can disable the thermal cutoff feature

            • LGO

              The SB900 thermal cut-off can easily be disabled.

              Press OK for a bit to go into menu then shut off the thermal cut-off from there. Easily done in less than 10 seconds.

            • Jim

              @ LGO
              Can hardly believe that the menu adjustment you described really shut it of so that you can proceed shooting until thermal death.
              I myself never encountered the cut off, probably because I hardly shoot fast sequences. But it could happen when I “handfire” the flash in nightscenes in manual full power to give some details additional light as fast as recycle time allows me at a 30 sec. exposure.

          • Calibrator

            What the others wrote and:
            If you get paid for the job you can (more or less) easily replace your flash.
            If you are an amateur or hobbyist then the thermal protection is a good thing.
            In other words: Choose your equipement wisely – and choose to NOT buy something from Nikon if it doesn’t fit.
            (I know this is heresy to some of you but that’s how it is)

          • Nikonuser

            You may indeed get paid, but you also may have to spend $550 on a new flash unit. Depends how much you’re getting paid.

          • Jesus christ

            It doesn’t stop if you disable the thermal cut out feature on the 900 it’s the same as the 800 moron!

          • http://snailartphotography.daportfolio.com/ benjamin

            That totally explains the smell tt came out twice on the last wedding i shot… haha. the SB 800 with SD-8a is truly formidable. haven’t had the need to switch up yet, will probably get another 800 instead of a 900. but thats because im alrd familiar with it and its cheaper.

        • http://micahmedia.com Micah

          I find the batteries are ready to dump before I can melt my SB800. I’ve pushed it hard–weddings, fashion shows, etc.–and it has lasted fine since my D2x in 2006.

          The 900 is a different design, which tries to milk more juice from a lower voltage (4 instead of 5 batts) and that results in more heat.

          Completely external batteries–now THERE’S and idea that they’ve still failed at. NiMH batteries heat up as they discharge. Getting them away from the hot caps and xenon tube is a way better method of preventing damage to the circuit from overheating.

          • LGO

            My wish too is for Nikon to make a completely new flash with batteries mounted externally some distance away from. This will make the flash lighter, better-balanced and cooler besides.

            A modified SB-900 connected to an SD-9 would be a good place to start.

            • LGO

              The SB-900 being modified to completely draw power from the SD-9 such that no batteries are needed in the SB-900.

            • http://micahmedia.com Micah

              Yeah, that wouldn’t be tough at all. Just a dummy battery with leads, like the olden days.

            • Rob

              Then it’s no longer a hot shoe flash, it’s a studio strobe.

      • chuck

        Every thought about turning off the cutoff? I have two SB900s not a problem at all… maybe I don’t push as hard.

        What is worst paying more bucks and than got a flash that slows down or one that cuts out… IMHO same issue of little difference and they get you for more bucks…

        Happy I got my SB900s versus pay more for nothing

        • Steve

          The problem is that even if you turn off thermal cut-off, it still makes that annoying noise every time you flash it. Very, very distracting when you’re photographing an event and other people around. The SB-900 is garbage, I too used it at a wedding and got rid of it the next day. I now rotate 3 SB-600s. Cheaper per unit with enough power output needed and do not have to worry about it complaining.

      • http://www.ad-grafikdesign.de twinfighter

        @SoftOnDemand
        What do I wrong??? I takes photos of weddings, christening, birthdays, partys. I take about 600 Photos in a few hours! But… sorry… I often try to verify your problem with overheating…. but… sorry I never have a problem with this! What do I wrong? Tell me your camera-setting for shooting people indoors! Why can I take about 100 photos in a short period with very low temperatures of my SB-900??? And why can’t you? Do you use a cheap kit-lens with aperture f/5.6 and iso 100 ??? How many photos do you take in one minute??? Are your custumer nerved, because you take 60 shots in 60 seconds? Do you ever check your camera settings? And beside this… If your really a professionell photographer, why don’t you have a spare flash in your bag? For me it is important to have a spare camera, a spare lens, a spare batteries and yes of course: A spare flash. I take care about the temperatures. And when I would see ever some high temperatures, then it takes 30 seconds and the spare flash is mounted on the camera and the party goes on! Are you professionell? Sorry for my harsh tones, but I wonder why people need a SB-910?

        • Darkness

          Nikon Speedlights are the best there is. The cannon marketeers posing here as moaning fans hate it. Period.

        • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

          because some people use flash in daylight where yes, you need that it is able to fire 20-30 shots within 5 minutes at full power.
          Or because some of us use flashes on photobooth, where you need higher fstop and low ISO because you need highest quality and deep DOF field.
          With 5 bateries, SB 800 lives longer then SB-900 can. Even if you disable thermal cutout, SB-800 never fried, while i fried one SB-900. SB-900 is not more powerfull when you cannot zoom in. It have about same power output.

          • Mike 216

            if you use your 900s un this way, you are overexpecting the hotshoe flash, and underestimated the equipment you need.
            Go for tri-flash, studio strobe PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER.
            Also, hypersync from PW, high-speed sync from NIKON, or just having an assistant to move your flash closer to your subjects, may help.
            Don’t blame your gear before you really know what they are supposed to deliver.

  • http://www.curtissmithphotography.com Curtis Smith

    Well I now feel like I’m in the desert and someone has just given me a bottle with one drop of water in it! ………….. Tic toc Tic toc

  • Gareth

    If this was smaller like the sb-800 i would buy it. as it is, still big enough to bend my d700 hotshoe.

    i just with the sb-800 had fp in manual.

    • http://micahmedia.com Micah

      Huh? You mean the mode that lets you use 1/500th and up? It works for me…

      • Michael Houghton

        It works in M on the camera (manual shutter/aperture setting) with TTL on the flash, I think.

        But perhaps Gareth means M mode on the flash (manual power setting), which is I think something it doesn’t do?

        I’ll have to experiment I suppose.

        • Michael Houghton

          “But perhaps Gareth means M mode on the flash (manual power setting), which is I think something it doesn’t do?”

          * which is something it doesn’t do FP mode with

          • http://micahmedia.com Micah

            …nope, it does that just fine too.

            • Michael Houghton

              Cool, hadn’t spotted that!

            • Gareth

              thanks for that, i thought you might be right, so checked.

              I was in SU-4 mode. it was capping the camera at my high speed sync speed. in my case 1/320.

              changed slave mode to off and problem solved.

              back to being totally happy again, but the menu is horrible compared to the SB700, and the AF assist is much less effective.

              can’t win em all. might buy another SB-800 now.

  • http://dundermifflin.com dwight shrute

    Why can’t they make it alternate as a video light?

    • Amen Guy

      Amen Brother!

    • LGO

      Uh … why not get a dedicated video light? It will likely work better.

      • Metten

        A separate video light with built-in stereo mic makes more sense to me

        • Discontinued

          LOL, good one. I suppose it goes without saying, you had a light with fan on your mind, creating that metaphor.

      • Discontinued

        Good point. Dedicated stuff is why people choose SLRs with hot shoe, mount and dedicated and interchangeable lenses. Next thing people want to see in a flash is a built in camera, I suppose.

      • Never guy

        You guys miss the point.

        There are those of us who shoot events who shoot both stills and video. Yes a LED panel is great, but if you suddenly want to take a photo, well it’s more than a tad inconvenient either swapping to flash or attempting to shoot stills with a LED panel sticking into your forehead all the time (yes I speak from experience).

        • Discontinued

          I admit it, I totally miss the point. The kind of job you describe is a plain horror scenario to me: full coverage of an event in both, stills and video, as a single photographer with a single camera (be it with or without your desired multipurpose video flash) sounds like someone promises to do all for next to nothing for rather cheap clients. Is it worth the stress?
          If so, do yourself a favor and get another camera for god’s sake.

          • WeddingVideographer

            I think what he means is what frequently happens to me. I will be shooting video at a wedding with a DSLR on a monopod with a LED video light… and of course, Uncle Frank walks over because you have a camera and asks you to take a photo of his kids while the photographer is on the other side of the room. I always carry a flash in my shoulder bag even when shooting video because this happens at least once at every wedding.

            • LGO

              Why not use the LED video light for the still photo?

  • http://www.RichardShoaf.com Richard Shoaf

    On the burn out question, always have a backup and a backup for your backup. Two of us shooting the other day had 4 of SB-900′s and at one time we did have two down due to heat (and it was about 40 deg. F outside)

    • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

      backup should be used for backup, not to make it useful product due redundancy.

      We dont need RAEF*

      *just made up, Redundancy Array of Expensive Flashes

  • been there guy

    Hey guys, this is a good deal, Nikon only charge $50 for the new fonts in the front!

  • texasjoe

    I’d take the 900. If they priced the same, then sure I’d go for the 910. But when i can get a 900 for $350 used I’ll take the 900 any day.

  • Palomino

    I see virtually zero difference between 910 and my good old 900 that I got for 400$. Even when I take a lot of frames in a short period of time my 900 remains cold/warm and it illuminates all the AF points on my D7000 perfectly

    • http://alloraphotography.com.au Matt B

      It illuminates them all? Are you talking about the AF assist? On the 700 the AF assist beam switches from vertical to horizontal depending on the selected focus point. I wonder if the 910 is the same. It wouldn’t cover all points though, just the middle ones on each axis.

      • Palomino

        Yeap, I am talking about AF assist. It illuminates every AF point, so that I can achieve tack sharp focus on my 50 1.4 wide open in complete darkness.
        Even when the subject is close the grid is much wider than the angle of view of my lens, maybe with super wide angle lens this can be a problem. And yes, it can illuminate all the points at one moment.

    • MB

      Actually there is no difference as far as I can see, they called this AF-Assist illumination compatible with the new Multi-CAM3500 FX/DX AF sensor when SB-900 was released and it does multi-point AF illumination.

  • Ralph

    SB900 – thermal cutout
    SB910 – improved thermal cutout
    SB920 – fire extinguisher ?????

    • LGO

      :-)

      SB-920: likely an improved cooling system

  • Joe Jarro

    Can someone switch off the light please?

  • Cloke

    So what does the multi-point AF illuminator mean, will it illuminate for all focus points? This may make the flash worth it if so…

    • Jo

      +1

      • http://haroldellis4444@gmail.com Harold Ellis

        no it will not be worth anything because it will again work only in AF-S not AF-C

  • Photogradstudent

    Buying used SB-900s… don’t let the heat problems screw you up, sale me your SB-900s and upgrade today!

  • Ralf

    What about a SW update for the SB900 to become a SB910? Should be worth only 50 $ ;-)

  • Bish

    The 900 was the worst strobe Nikon ever made, it’s inconsistent and temperamental the 910……better begood. Nikon should give us a free upgrade and an apology.

    • Image

      You do realize that the 900 is actually one of the highest performing “strobes” Nikon has ever made, right?

      • http://www.orangeboxphotography.net/blog martin horn

        Image hit the nail on the head +1 kudos to you, its on of Nikon’s best flashes, and “User Error” has alot to do with issues with the 900

    • Calibrator

      I second that and I also think that all car manufacturers should apologize for last years models and give new cars to all customers…
      ;-)

  • Worminator

    Too … many … posts … about … this … flashgun.

    Gah!

  • santorri

    So basically its the same product but they want to charge you more for it….I hope they’re not thinking of doing the same thing with the upcoming D800!

    • Metten

      The D800 will be way more expensive than the D700 is today, but the price should eventually drop to about the same level as the D700. The same goes for the SB-910 opposed to the SB-900.
      The introduction price is always high on all Nikon equipment.

  • http://www.orangeboxphotography.net/blog martin horn

    i keep hearing people bashing the 900 how bad it is, but in my opinion alot of the issues with the 900 is alot to do with “User Error” poor battery choice etc. yes it can overheat it if you cycle it on full power too much but what do you expect its a portable flash not a studio strobe, that’s the trade off for portability, the new one will not be much different it will just manage it better by slowing recycle times to reduce issue of overheating.

  • LGO

    In terms of rear controls, I consider the SB-910 as a step backwards than the SB-900. The SB900 has a dedicated “Zoom” function button which has been now been replaced with a “Menu” Function in the SB910. As the Menu function on the SB900 is easily accessed by pressing the “OK” button, nothing is gained with this change.

    The SB910 by losing the Zoom function button now requires the user to go into the menu to change the zoom settings of the flash if he wants to MANUALLY change the zoom settings. This is a step backwards for me and for those who understands the importance and use of being able to manually set the zoom setting of the SB-900.

    • Metten

      The zoom function is accessed through the left soft-button. It will probably work the same as the dedicated zoom button, except when a menu is active which requires the soft-button to have another function.

      • LGO

        While I still prefer the original SB-900 setup, its good to know that a soft button supports the zoom function. Is the manual for the SB-910 out already?

  • twinfighter

    why do you delete my comment on this product???
    here my old comment:

    What do I wrong??? I takes photos of weddings, christening, birthdays, partys. I take about 600 Photos in a few hours! But… sorry… I often try to verify your problem with overheating…. but… sorry I never have a problem with this! What do I wrong? Tell me your camera-setting for shooting people indoors! Why can I take about 100 photos in a short period with very low temperatures of my SB-900??? And why can’t you? Do you use a cheap kit-lens with aperture f/5.6 and iso 100 ??? How many photos do you take in one minute??? Are your custumer nerved, because you take 60 shots in 60 seconds? Do you ever check your camera settings? And beside this… If your really a professionell photographer, why don’t you have a spare flash in your bag? For me it is important to have a spare camera, a spare lens, a spare batteries and yes of course: A spare flash. I take care about the temperatures. And when I would see ever some high temperatures, then it takes 30 seconds and the spare flash is mounted on the camera and the party goes on! Are you professionell? Sorry for my harsh tones, but I wonder why people need a SB-910?

    • http://www.modifiedphotographics.com Jason

      I tend to agree… Faster lenses or slightly higher ISO can cut flash power down considerably and reduce the odds of having overheating issues to almost nil. I did a test at one point when the SB-900 first came out and I purchased one and found at 1/4 power it was difficult to overheat, even with constant use. Bump the ISO one stop or open the aperture up a stop and you can drop flash power by the same amount making the batteries last longer, refresh faster and the odds of overheating almost impossible. Sure, their will be times where 1/2 or even full power may be necessary, but you can supplement that by using a second (or even third) flash off-camera which takes some of the power requirements off both of them.

  • johnmotts

    I think the SB900 is an excellent unit. I have no complaints about it, but there are a few minor issues such as menus that could be improved.

    Lo and behold, Nikon has addressed these minor issues and everyone is complaining!

    It’s basically a slightly improved and evolved SB900. Not something to upgrade to, but still an improvement for when you do need to buy a new unit. What more do you lot want? It’s only a flipping small flashgun! If you can’t work with this, stop whinging and buy something much bigger.

  • http://techprolet.com Pavlos

    is it my impression, or flash units look like they’re always 20yrs behind?

  • AaronL

    The biggest problem with the SB900 is ridiculous size and bulk. The D700 hotshoe is under engineered to take its buld and loosens and fails over time. Do Nikon give a f%*& ? NO. They replace it with an even heavier model. Sad Sad Sad

    • Metten

      Just get a SB-700. It is lovely.

  • lasssal

    I thought the SB 900 is “software upgradable”…

    Why didn’t they just release an upgrade… ah I get it… that would be free, sorry.

    • http://www.bythom.com Thom Hogan

      Correct. By iterating the model number and including hard filters instead of soft they get to charge US$50 more.

  • igorhuy

    they are the same
    what a fuck?

  • Nikotine

    will this work with the d800 ?

  • http://photoartbymark.zenfolio.com photoartbymark

    900.1

    • http://www.kunvee veerayuth

      I think so. it’s not enought for improve. i use sb-700 and i really like a shotcut side of a screen. it’s very quick to use. i hope to see it on 910 a new product of speedlight.

  • Francois

    Waho ! ! !

    $ 50 more, to get roughly the same: why buy it?

    They look to be doing new things with old stuff…

  • JoHN

    GRAVE FAULT IS THE WIRELESS VIA RADIO

  • FX DX

    Until the D800 or D400 comes out, everything Nikon produces will be shit to the audience of this site. 90% of us are not pro photographers and don’t make money with our hobby. We just want an affordable prosumer camera that is better than Canon, Sony and other competing brands. Brand loyalty is kind of stupid but it is hard to not do it when you have thousands of dollars invested in the equipment.

    • rs

      You are correct. I’m not in any rush to replace my D700. Its a fantastic camera and 12mp is plenty. So many stupid comments about Nikon being behind Canon. Go out and develop your skills. I have friends who win awards with 5mp point and shoots.

  • Nikon WTF

    What a joke of a release this is…it is basically an sb700 on steroids (with more power) and they increase price on top of it and have the balls to call this a NEW product.

    I am not aware if Canon or others have pulled crap like this before, but if this is the way Nikon thinks they will KEEP pro customers on their side they are sadly mistaken.

    Good think I purchased a d3s 2 months ago, like many I was fed up of the waiting.

    • Calibrator

      > it is basically an sb700 on steroids (with more power)

      No. It’s basically an SB900 with a new firmware that now uses solid filters.

  • Clark Tanaka

    I’ve never been a fan of the NIKON Strobe designs..
    The D3′s look great, why not the strobes???…

  • http://www.bhphotography.ca Brian

    The SB-900 supports multi point auto focus on my d3s… I see no improvements.

    • radlclaus

      Really?! On my D700 any time I move AF off center the SB900-red-illu stops working. So I would embrace the SB910 if it delivers AF on sides as well.

      Can you please confirm ex-center-AF-illu with SB900??

  • rs

    It would be nice id nikon would make a GUI like the camera bodies. I find getting around the flash menu a pain. i’m glad they added a menu button.

  • Chester

    I thought Nikon filed a patent for a cooling system on the flash head? Can i use the 910 hard gels on the 900?

  • Ruhtard

    I could get an Einstein for that. No thanks I’ll pass.

    • SDiggity

      +1

      • Mike216

        Sadly I can’t buy one at such price, since I live in Hong Kong and the Einstein from Australia cost $7xx

  • Travis

    So it’s even heavier then the 900? Great, I can replace another hotshoe on my D700.

    • AaronL

      sssssh Travis, Nikon dont think this is an issue, they love charging you to fix what is a major design flaw. I am on my third repair…………………..

      • Distanted

        The SB920 will address the size ‘issue’ with 2 built-in braces, one for the hot shoe mount and one for your back. It will cost $600.

        But seriously, if some people have a 900 that never overheats, great for you. I’m sure not everyone’s Ford Pinto exploded in the ’70s… I’ve owned an SB600 since my D70 days and never had a hiccup, I worked with SB800s for two years under harsh conditions without so much as a buring smell, but my SB900 became unusable after a handful of bounced lighting candids. I had to pull out a $180 SB600 that was at least 7 years old to finish the job. The 910 sounds like what I paid $450 for a couple of years ago, and I don’t feel like buying it again to see if they got it right. For what they want for a new 910, I’ll spend it on a used SB800 and a couple of manual flashes with radio slaves.

  • Cloke

    I’m going to wait to see if recycling will be faster on this than the SB-800 with 5 batteries.

  • Stefan

    does anyone know something about a new version of the r1c1?
    i want to buy one for christmas, but i´m a little bit frightend if there will be a replacement soon.

  • Been there guy

    The DLSR HD video lovers. Here is a way to shed some $$$

    http://vimeo.com/32936783

  • Steve Starr

    Anyone notice the color difference between the two flash heads?

    The SB-900 appears to be a bit warmer in color (yellowish) than the SB-910 that appears colder (bluer)?

    May have some bad effects on skin tones or compensate for hot red channels out of their recent cameras, but at least a white wedding dress should appear cooler.

    • http://www.modifiedphotographics.com Jason

      I suspect this may have been just a slight variance in the image, white balance or even a production variance. My SB-900 was “clear white” at first and after use has actually yellowed very slightly as well with age. I have an older SB-600 also which is very yellow compared to the SB-900. This is pretty typical from what I’ve seen.

      The color of the light would have little impact on white balance if you set a custom white balance to the flash and ambient lighting. (Because the custom white balance would always offset any color shift.)

    • Been there guy

      Those are two different photos put together.

      900 was shot using D700 and 910 was shot using D800…ooops, should not said that…

  • T.I.M

    ****** OFF TOPIC *******
    I’m a long time Adorama customer but I may not order from them anymore.

    I noticed since few weeks now that when you search for a product on the website, they don’t say that the product is OUT-OF-STOCK unless you add the product in the shopping cart (for example the 200mm f/2.0).

    Give me a break, if you don’t have it, you don’t have it, fine, don’t take us for dummies.
    I don’t see that as a professional store attitude.
    ***********************

    • Josh

      Oh My God! Stop the presses! Poor you have to go and actually add a product to the cart – something that takes all of one mouse click – to see if the item is in stock.

      If you get so hassled by something so small, how the heck do you handle a real crisis? Darwin award for the first week of December goes to you!

      • T.I.M

        @Josh
        Not really, even your comment does not bother me, it’s just that marketing is getting more and more annoying.

        – want to see the price ? put the item in your cart.
        – want to get a deal ? come back at 2AM friday morning.
        – want to get 10% off on that item ? buy the all store

        I remember the time (long time ago) when items had a price on it and you did not need a special card to check out at the registrer.

        • Rob

          You can check out without a card, you’ll just pay more. You can shop at sites that display the price before you add to cart, and again, you’ll pay more. The first is price discrimination, and it helps increase profits by drawing in shoppers that don’t mind the inconvenience as long as they save money (which they do compared to stores without cards). The second is a way around MAP policies, which the stores themselves do not set. If a store displays the final price before you add it to your cart, it is AT LEAST the MAP. If they make you add it to cart, you are being charged less.

          Either way, enjoy paying more.

        • Hhom Togan

          -Want to see the price? put the item in your cart.
          They have to do it when products are cheaper than the MSRP and it is the same for brick and mortar stores too, they can’t publicly announce the price in the window of the store, they can suggest there is a bargain and for you to step inside and ask.

          – want to get a deal ? come back at 2AM friday morning.
          The same as camp for black friday, wait till the end of season for clothing sale, etc.

          – want to get 10% off on that item ? buy the all store
          They are a store, not an NGO for photographers that don’t know what the F is a saving account.

        • JonMcG

          T.I.M.

          I don’t know why you’re getting attacked so much here. I for one happen to agree with you. Just tell the price and whether or not it’s in stock, and let me go from there. Making me jump through a bunch hoops is not making my shopping experience any better.

          Competitors are literally one click away, I would think you’d want to do whatever you could to retain as many customers as possible.

          Jon

    • http://www.adorama.com Helen Oster

      I am sorry for your frustration and I do appreciate how disappointing it must be to get to checkout to find that a product is out of stock.

      Unfortunately our current website does not have the capability to update automatically. Our stock availability should be updated every 2 hours (most of the problems occur at weekends or during holiday closures).

      Unfortunately, since we advertise via many many portals eg buy.com, Amazon, bing, ebay, shopping.com etc. it’s easy to mess up when figuring out how much merchandise to put up on each portal.
      If we have 100 units we can’t tell each portal that we have 100 or we could potentially sell 500 units! We also don’t want to short ourselves and advertise just 20 on each portal….
      It is entirely possible that we could receive several dozen orders for a popular item such as this at the same time – by telephone or via our website; If we have 29 in stock but receive 30 orders, it isn’t always going to be immediately obvious that one customer is going to be disappointed.

      This is an ongoing issue that we are working to resolve, however, with high demand items, frequent delivery and dispatch times mean that units can come in one door of the warehouse, be packaged, and out of another door within a couple of hours.
      Unless the items actually hit the shelves, our computer system generates an automatic message in response to an order, indicating that it is out of stock.

      We would prefer if we could list all prices on the product pages but MAP (minimum advertised price) rules for some of their products require us to list deals online this way. We appreciate the inconvenience, but are contractually obliged to follow manufacturer rules in this matter.
      Putting an item in a shopping cart doesn’t oblige you to buy it and an item can be put in a shopping cart anonymously.

      I hope this helps, but do get in touch if I can assist with anything else, now or in the future: Helen@adorama.com

      Helen Oster
      Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

  • Ric

    anything more than a SB400 is overkill.

    or so I’ve heard.

  • Hom Thogan

    So let’s see the logic here:

    -First it was the SB800 which was 350 USD
    -Then it was the SB900 which is 450 USD
    -Now we have the SB910 which is 550 USD

    So what can you buy for around 550USD?

    -A Bowens Gemini 500R ($554.99)
    -A Gemini Classic 500C Monolight ($499.00)
    -An Elinchrom BXRi 500 ($596.50 but there is a 50 buck mail in rebate now).
    -An Elinchrom D-lite IT 400 ($324.99)
    -A Hensel Integra Plus 500 ($588 95) or a Hensel Integra Mini 300 ($485)
    -Novatron M600 ($429.95)
    -Rimelite Fame 600 ($448.00)
    -etc.

    Ehhh…..yeah… hmmmm

  • Capture nxFAIL

    Dear Nikon,

    Despite the fix to a widely reported issue, the flash is very similar to an older product. How then can you justify a price hike on something with no real advancement in the technology behind the scenes? Doesn’t economies of scale and production 101 dictate that the more of a product you make, the cheaper it gets? Was the R&D that went into this product worth the price hike? This is almost highway robbery to me – it makes no sense.

    I would really appreciate an answer to this question.

    I really hope Nikon see this.

    • T.I.M

      @Capture nxFAIL
      “the more of a product you make, the cheaper it gets”
      That’s what my wife and myself thought about kids but it happen to be more costly !

  • InfraRed

    I have been using Metz Mecablitz 45 flahes (ct-1 to CL-4) for 25 years. I’ve been more than happy with them. The SB-910 is not going to make me switch…
    I pass.

  • Steve

    Should have never messed up the formula from the SB-800.
    One thing that many people are not talking about is that the SB-900 has more menus and takes more time to perform simple changes. For example, on my SB-600, all I have to do is push the + or – button in order to do quick exposure changes. However on the 900, I have to push the button to get to the exposure mode and then rotate the dial. Not to mention the numbers are much smaller on the 900 and harder to read in daylight. This might not sound like much of a difference, but when you are in a fast paced work environment, these small 1-second delays could mean the difference between getting that great defining moment shot vs missing it completely.

  • 1Flash

    I cannot believe all the comments on this new flash. I have been shooting weddings and events with med. format for over 35 years and I got BURNED out and quit. I have never burned out or melted down a flash. I still have my working Metz 45CT-5. I cannot believe that this many people have overheated their SB-900′s. Last year I made the move from film to digital. I have both the SB-900 and SB=600 and would have loved to have had them back in the day. Never have had a problem with either of them. I cannot believe what I’m reading here. People shooting 400 – 600 shots at a wedding. Why? Photography is suppose to capture the moment and tell a the story. There aren’t 600 stories in a wedding. Out of 600 how many are actually sold. 600 proofs in film would be over $1,000. My new camera can shoot 9 fps but that isn’t designed as a wedding mode. I think they should make everyone shoot film for a year before they are allowed to get a digital camera. You learn photography faster when you are paying for your mistakes. I hope to find another SB-900 under my Christmas tree.

    • Calibrator

      I agree with the first part (even if I’m not a wedding photographer and don’t really know what I’m talking about) but the second part (“everybody should shoot analog for year”) is no solution because of the circumstances: Every professional photographer faces a beast with name “economy”. If he survives by taking 500 pictures at a wedding then everything is fine. He will likely edit and present only a few of them because his time is limited after all but if he wants to take them and doesn’t annoy the wedding party it’s fine.
      If on the other hand he can make a living by taking 20 or so pictures and sell them everything is fine, too. I think there is a very blurry line between being an “artist” having to accept mundane jobs for a living and a “worker” delivering stunning results, even when created by accident.

      Of course the digital world with its cheaper and bigger memory cards every day provokes taking hundreds of shots. Manufacturers like Nikon and others seem to push their sales by marketing bodies with 10 pictures a minute – why should a wedding photographer not use this if that is where he put his money? Because he is a wedding photographer and not a sports photo-journalist?
      What I see is lots of people embracing photography, including myself, because of the easy accessability today – thanks to digital tech. Of course: Without a computer to develop/store/publish your images you can still use an external image service like in the seventies.

      As a side note: You can also now publish books yourself and in your own home thanks to digital tech – 600 years ago you would have to join a monastery as a monk to be able to even work on books. Then Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press and after some time the making of books was “democratized” – which didn’t make every author automatically a good one! I think you see my point.

      What I *do* see, though, is spoilt people everywhere that are thinking there are no technical limitations anymore.
      Yes, there is powerful hardware but it’s not omnipotent – it has its borders. In the case of the Nikon SB-900 there is a thermal protection – and people have to accept that there is a reason for it. It may be set too low for some people but for others it protects an investment. It will stay for me for many years, I think.
      Some people need to accept that they have to buy different hardware because they have different needs. They wouldn’t buy a Nikon 1 for weddings either, I guess…

    • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.nowak.54 Joseph Nowak

      I shot film professionally for over 35 years before I went to digital. I will NEVER do wet film and paper processing again! Paying for your mistakes CAN get outrageously expensive at times if you do your own darkrom work like I did, Dodging, burning in, adjusting color pack, mixing smelly chemicals etc. bears no relationship to digital. How is learning how to dodge and burn in with enlarger prints going to give you helpfull experience in using digital? I speak from over 40 years experience and say that those teachers that demand their students start with film are stupid!! DUMB! The only carryover is learning the relationship between shutter speed, aperture, depth of field and understanding how ISO (used to be called ASA) works with Exposure Value. However you can learn these things on a DSLR as well as a manual film camera. The reason a photographer uses a camer is to capture images. Anything that detracts from that is a waste of time. Mixing color chemicals like formulin fix can take up to 15 minutes before all solids are dissolved properly. You learn nothing by mixing chemicals except to mix them in water of the proper temperature! Photography is an art form, whether post production is done in a darkroom or in Photoshop!

      • davegeorge

        I don’t have my students start with film because they wouldn’t be able to afford it. The idea of learning from film does have merit however. A challenge I find with many students is an unwillingness to slow down and think about what they’re doing. The idea proposed here isn’t about learning a specific technical skill, that’s learned more quickly with instant feedback. The deficiency arises in developing a mind set and approach to shooting.

    • http://about.me/fiz Steve

      It’s strange for me to hear about people melting SB-900s: I melted an SB-600 even with the temperature limiter turned on. I switched the 900, turned off the limiter and I still haven’t burned the plastic.

  • http://louisdallara.com Louis Dallara

    Way to go Nikon, everybodys waiting for the D800/D900 and you come out with the SB-910 to piss me off as a owner of an over heated D900, how about buying my over heated D900 back or give me a trade in !!!
    I wonder if you care about your loyal customer base???

    • Josh

      Your “over heated D900″? D900? LMAO!

      Take your meds, grampa!!!

      • Harry Samuel

        MAybe he was truly upset. A mistake when writing when you are stressed is very normal. I am just glad I stopped buying Nikon flashes after the SB800 was discontinued. For $579.99 I can jump to Quantum.

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