“It’s gonna be BIG! Something SO BIG we can’t even tell you what it is” (updated)
The above scan is from page 148 of the latest Rangefinder Magazine.
I wonder what will be so BIG about this event.
WPPI stands for Wedding & Portrait Photographer International. The next show will be in February 2009 in Las Vegas. In the event schedule they have listed a “surprise welcome party”.
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What is the relationship between wedding and rangefinders, exactly? Not critizing, just curious.
… BIG could be an acronym for something (any ideas? I have none).
Unless of course it is simply the D3x (BIG megapixels, BIG prints), which appears most likely given the timing of the event.
Strange that the ad is in a rangefinder mag, what good would a rangefinder camera be for wedding shooters, they shouldnt care for size.
Certainly odd that an ad like that would be targeted at rangefinder users. Though all of that emphasis on big and that it’s for a wedding and portrait photography show points much more towards a 24MP DSLR, IMO.
Gee, I wonder if the event will be BIG? Like the posters above, a rangefinder announcement doesn’t seem like major news for wedding & portrait pros. I’d guess it’s a D3 replacement.
I don’t see why this has to imply anything about a nikon digital rangefinder. Rangefinder magazine is not specific about types of cameras anyway. It’s a professional magazine geared mostly to wedding and portrait photographers. Far more likely that a high megapixel D3 would suit this crowd which would tie into some of the Thom Hogan projections that a high MP may not be coming as soon as thought.
just common logic - of course could be something else - the first thing that came to my mind was Nikon rangefinder
I have this issue and will get you the scan once my son stops playing WoW. Rangefinder is a pro photog magazine. Little or nothing to do with rangefinder cameras. As was said previously probably has a lot to do with D3x.
Rangefinder and weddings might not go together, but fast primes like 85 f/1.2, 50 f/1.2, 28mm f/1.4 sure do!
Ok thanks - maybe I should change the title of the post - it is misleading.
I already went to my local B&N, but they do not carry that magazine.
ah… someone agrees with me! i have been keeping my fingers crossed for a quality 50 and 85 f/1.2 for some time from Nikon, and honestly i really dont see why they have taken as long as they have! especially with the Canon’s being so popular! those are the items i REALLY want to see from Nikon next!
There were few rumors about those 2 lenses - let’s hope they were true. You know that when they announce the next D3, they HAVE to announce some new lenses.
BIG ~ disappointment?
A 1000mm f4 would be nice though.
Looks like they’re planning to either have the D3X, or the alleged D800, OR some f/1.x glass, ready by PMA / WPPI 2009. Could be exciting!
But wow, that ad is kinda outrageous! I mean, I’ve never seen such a big company talk that “big” about something, (no pun intended) …or be so secretive…
=Matt=
One Question. They are telling that they will say more “next month”. Now, February 2009 is clearly not “next month”. How shall I understand this?
The ad tells you that “something” big will be on display at WPPI in February - but not what that “something” is (probably because they’re under a NDA). Next month, the NDA from Nikon has expired, and they’re at liberty to tell you what “something” is - so they will (presumably i a follow-up ad).
September 1948, Nippon Kogaku ships their first Camera, the NIKON I.
That was 60 years ago, so expect something to shake the market like they did then.
Besides TomA reported some prototypes around Tokyo…. I don’t need more!
The only questions are:
it will be M-Mount?
S-Mount (Zeiss just made a new S-Mount 50mm 1.5 THIS YEAR 2008)?
or a new mount?
BIG as in a new format? Bigger than FX - MX
This must be it. New matrix- BIG. Better than Canon which always had bigger sensors than Nikon.
The Nikon F came out in 1959 so 2009 is the 50th Nikon F anniversary. Maybe it has something to do with that?
They got to be aggressive - the competition is strong.
a Nikon Digital Rangefinder ?
amazing !
Can you please point us to this TomA report?
24 MP sensor from Sony - the D3x ?
The word on the street is that the next D3 will come for or before Photokina.
I heard a P6000 replacement with 24 MPs!!!! YES not like i’d want anything else
canon had always bigger sensors than nikon? ehm i hope you know, that the D3 is an FF, and nikon’s dx sensors are bigger than canon’s aps-c….
Where did you hear that?
this keeps getting braught up, but the 24mp sensor from sony… With the D3 and the D700, nikon moved away from using Sony sensors, the 12mp FX sensor is NOT sony brand. and that has had HUGE success! i really dont understand why Nikon would now go back to sony for that 24mp sensor! it makes no sence!
I don’t understand why you think this is a rangefinder ad. A better guess is a MF camera. Thom had a post on DPR today or yesterday extolling the virtues of just such a machine.
I suspect a larger format sensor is what will be announced. Think about this: a 24-MP D3X would likely have the type of low light performance something like the D300 has with none of the ISO 6400, large photosite benefits of a D3 or D700.
The maintain the high-ISO/low-light performance while upping megapixels, perhaps Nikon will introduce a larger sensor size.
I like the idea of modular sensors though. More environmentally sound no less - your old body needn’t hit the landfill when you upgrade, just swap out the sensor unit.
My bet is on a medium format camera or late D3X.
The medium format would have to be cheap though, considering Hasselblad just broke the 50mp mark.
The competition is strong? With all due respect, I think that couldn’t be further from the truth. Canon has shot itself in both feet, and Sony has failed to TRULY catch on…
The D300 + D700 + D3, (+ D3X) …along with lenses like the 14-24 and 24-70, prove that Nikon is on a roll and in the lead. There is no stopping them from taking the #1 spot now!
=Matt=
In my opinion being that the ad is in a rangefinder magazine AND I’ve seen hints for a year now that there are Nikon rangefinder prototypes out there. I’d say the ad is hinting at something BIG in the rangefinder world like a resurgence of Nikon and competition to the M8.
I’d also be happy with a MF system but I can’t see that happening unless the new modular camera IS a MF camera that has a 35mm FX back option with an F-mount and Nikon release a new line of F-mount lenses that have a larger image circle for use on the MF and FX cameras. This way we would have DX, FX, MFX? all with the same lens mount, If it happens thats the way I would figure that it would be.
I still think that the ad being in the rangefinder magazine is the most telling aspect of this rumor. If the ad is out there in other magazines then I’d lean more towards the modular system.
I’d be really cool if the modular system and the rangefinder were released at the same time and to top it off a MF system (or modular is MF) was announced at the same time, only in a perfect world I guess.
Actually the perfect world be having the cameras AND the money to afford them.
“ I’ve seen hints for a year now that there are Nikon rangefinder prototypes out there.“ - would you share some with us? Thanks!
From now on anytime I come across any info I’ll be bringing it up here with links. The first rumblings about a digital rangefinder started a long time ago on a technology blog where a guy in a subcontracted (to Nikon) facility saw with his own eyes the D3 (months prior to release)and a digital rangefinder. The D3 was anounced months later and his description was spot on I went back to see if there was more info but I could not find the blog again.
This is our goal - to start aggregating Nikon rumors from all over the world. We cannot achieve this without the eyes and knowledge of our readers. So, if you get something, send it over. Thanks!
FYI the D3 and D700 sensors are most likely made by Sony. They would be a Nikon design and would not be copied by Sony. The reason that we haven’t heard about this is that Nikon wants to avoid the marketing fiasco that plagued the D2H. There aren’t too many good sensor makers out there and since Nikon and Sony have a good relationship (Nikon supplies Sony the equipment used to make sensors) in this department it stands to reason Sony’s producing the chip, but this is not for sure but you can’t dismiss the possibility the sensor is made by Sony. If Nikon did use the Sony developed 24Mp sensor there would be a large difference over the sony chip in they way the Nikon processor would interpret the data from the sensor.
Who cares who makes it so long as Nikon designs it or modifies it to be better as they have with all the Sony sensors used so far. Just compare the Sony 10Mp aps-c sensor in a Sony camera (A100, A200, A300) head to head with the same sensor in a Nikon (D200, D80, D40x, D60), very different results from the “same” sensor.
Something big! May be it will be another BIG DISAPPOINTMENT…. Let hope not.
A $3K D3 would be BIG imho..
Nikon will obviously be announcing a new lens mount.
…I kid, I kid!
Thom Hogan made an excellent observation today on his website. The actual wording says that Nikon is “sponsoring” a big event at WPPI, not that it is an event about Nikon. Very, very possible that this is not a new product rollout at all.
Umm…. the D700 is the $3k D3 buddy.
Under the developemtn is that it is currently having the nick-name otoji for reference and almost prepared for releasing it to the world for happy result!
Please tell us more - email me if needed - privacy guaranteed.
Wish to say more but the job loss threat is strong, better be the silent voice till 03/09. Sorry…
If you don’t comprehend.. Otoji is like bigger brother or the older/bigger uncle.
Key is bigger.
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Here is nice comment in photo.net
Actually Nikon is going to present the first ever single-shot 4×5 Large Format sensor at 1.3 Gigapixels in a portable camera with autofocus and finder.
Write BIG with numbers and you will see: IЭ.I.G (1.31 Gp)
Now that would be nice…
Nikon is perfect!!!
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