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First (fake?) picture of the Nikon D810

Nikon D810 DSLR camera
This Nikon D810 picture was sent to me by a reader and I believe it's fake. What do you guys think if Nikon really introduces a third scroll wheel on the top plate for the ISO selection?

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  • jojo

    Obviously fake. Official Nikon literature saying that this
    is what Nikon users want??? Too radical a concept. Whatever next?

  • palitos chinos

    A perfect design would be d700. Just swap pleases with the iso and wb buttons with the mode and compensation.

  • Nick

    I think there are two kinds of people posting here, those who think this is a good idea, and those who actually own a D800 ;)

  • Az Rehman

    probably fake but i would be very happy if true. those three controls should be together.

  • medvedev

    Fake I think; here the original image: http://www.nikond800e.co/aimages/D800top.png

  • JXVo

    Definitely fake. The third wheel for ISO is ridiculous and unnecessary.

    Using latest D800/D800E firmware you can re-assign the video button to ISO adjustment on one or more of your custom settings banks. Custom Setting f13. Adjust by pressing the button and turning front or rear wheels. The ISO changes show in the finder so you don’t even have to lift your eye and it can all be done one-handed while your left hand supports the lens.

    I’m guessing most photographers use exposure comp more often than ISO adjustment so moving the exposure compensation button to the top left of camera to make way for the third wheel would be a backward step. Exposure compensation would then become a two-handed operation….

  • Maya

    This is what every camera manufacturer should have been doing since digital cameras appeared (and not just for ISO selection, it can be used, for example, to directly control the minimum shutter speed in A or P modes), but I still think it’s a fake. It’s too clever to come from a camera manufacturer. I hope Nikon will prove me wrong.

  • Ferdynand Regia

    your left hand is holding the lens while you are shooting, and your right hand is holding the camera with your index finger at the shutter button. when you need a sudden iso change, then your left hand goes to the iso button and your right hand in the scroll to change it. then, your subject gone, or your camera got shaken. it is a blessing for you if you are shooting manual iso setting. i think, the idea couldn’t go any better than that, the additional third scroll.

  • dnz

    so easier ISO control at the expense of less convenient exposure compensation? no thanks.

  • j

    The shadow on the third scroll does not make any sense => fake

  • Andrew

    Yawn, wake me up when the first fake D2300 pictures arrive.

  • RunnerBrett

    Based on past announcements when would you think the D810 would hit the shelves?

  • http://quebecpanorama.com/en/ Bernard Dery

    Fake

  • broxibear

    A heads up for potential D800E buyers.
    If you’re after a D800E or were thinking there might be a price cut when the D810 comes out I’d be very careful. There’s next to no D800E stock around Europe. There is D800 stock available, so you’ll soon have a choice of the D800, until stock runs out, and the D810 which by all accounts will be more expensive than the D800E.
    It’s what happened with the D4 and D4s…the D4 never dropped in price, it just became unavailable and you had no choice but to buy the new more expensive body.

  • Maurizio Rocco

    “First fake picture of the Nikon D810?”
    ……i hope so………..

  • fotoglut

    Why do we need such a thing? (ISO scroll) The Automatic is awesome, and at 95% i know witch ISO i want for the Picture. No Need for that scroll.
    What i want is a Preset Button. Like D7000.

  • Marcelo Tezza

    Fake, first because if you have 3 dials you don’t need a ex.comp button.
    Reading a comment here i had an idea with 3 dials for nikon, (even thinking that fuji xt-1 has the best implementation of changing modes)
    The 3 dial in conjuntion with a auto button could be really interesting for changing modes faster. Press the auto button and flick the dial refered to a function aperture, iso or shutters speed so as you flick it you put it on auto and this dial becames exp comp dial without the need of a button to do it. what do you guys think?
    The positioning of the button i would like to be where the mode button is now or near to the flash button like d60 fn button and i think like d3300.

  • big elephant balls

    “Nikon users wants this design their cameras” HUH? Come on now, when you start posting this sort of crap, it lowers your credibility.

  • Kokor Hekkus

    That scroll placed there haves no sense, much better a dial, but with many more features, sized as one of the sony a99

  • Marcel Speta

    Fake. But third scroll isn’t bad idea I think. OK not for ISO, but for other functions? … why not :-)

  • bob smith

    i am all for an iso scroll. i would also be happy if they would let the pro bodies use the Nikon ML-L3 Wireless Remote Control. i love my clicker.

  • Joel

    Fake or not, having a dedicated ISO wheel would be very helpful for video capture.

  • Stan Chung

    Looks like a Canon. rolleyes

  • mcastein

    Third wheel for ISO would be excellent, I would buy it just for that.

  • Lockon

    The ISO wheel without some kind of a lock seems like a nightmare. Just like the command dial on older cameras that didn’t have the lock button.

  • Nigel

    The mere mention of CS6 in the EXIF points to an obvious fake.
    But the yanktards that run and read this site will believe anything.

    • http://inthemistphoto.com/ InTheMist

      He said, as well as most readers, that they believe it’s fake.

  • Espen4u

    It’s a fake, probably from the same guy that gave us the 135/1.8G. And no I don´t want more wheels on my cameras. On the contrary I’d love if the front wheel was tiltable and had dual purpose, then the backwheel could go away completely.

  • KG

    While the third wheel is an interesting idea, it’s not something that I need and would be in the way.

  • D700guy

    Why would anyone use a shit lens like a 24-120mm f4 on a D800 or a D810?

    • sure

      Sounds like you have no idea what are you talking about…

    • mikeswitz

      Do you own a 24-120mm or a D800 or just a pos D700?

      • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com/ bob cooley

        The 24-120mm doesn’t have the resolving power to create great images on the 36mp D800. It’s a moderate performer at best.

        If you think the D700 is a POS, you’ve never shot with one. They are a a great camera, and at the time it came out was the king of low-light photography. Its still a very good body, with the same sensor as the D3 in it.

        Before you ask the snarky question – I DO own the D800, used to own the D700, and have rented the 24-120 as a general lens for a second body on assignment, and to test if it was worth buying. For pro performance, it’s not.

        It’s a solid prosumer lens, but D700 guy is right, this isn’t a lens built for even the old D800 – I would assume that the D810 will have slightly higher specs, and require very solid resolving power.

        • mikeswitz

          The “pos D700″ crack was about D700 calling the 24-120mm “shit lens”. A little snarky I admit.
          Sorry. But I love you guys who speak for all pros and come to a conclusion about a lens by using a rented one, once. I know a number of “pros” who are quite happy with the 24-120mm. As far as I have been able to tell a pro camera or lens is anything used by an individual to make money.

          Finally, D700 is prone to write posts like, “Why would anyone use a shit lens like a 24-120mm f4 on a D800 or a D810?” If you want to defend that kind of thinking I think Dick Cheney might have a job for you.

          • http://www.bobcooleyphoto.com/ bob cooley

            No, there is a significant difference between pro grade equipment, and consumer/prosumer equipment. Mostly its in build and durability (plastic vs. magnesium allow bodies) and in quality (lenses with high resolving power/sharpness as well as large maximum apertures).

            That’s not to say that prosumer equipment isn’t used to make money by some people, but there will be a quality difference in many cases; especially with work that goes to print.

            The 24-120 is an okay lens, and if you use it on a body that’s 16mp or smaller, you will get decent results. But the lens simply doesn’t have the resolving power needed to maximize the benefit of the D800.

            I have 30 years of professional experience with Nikon equipment; renting a lens for a full day assignment is all I need to determine whether it is up to my standards.

  • MB

    ISO setting is easy enough to change as it is (ISO button+dial) and in this setup you could easily change it unwillingly, and moving exposure compensation button would not be beneficial at all to me (would require some precious time to get used to) …
    Image is fake of course, this is just a bad idea (in my opinion) …
    On the other hand it would be nice if Nikon could introduce D810s with (much) improved 12Mpix D3 sensor that could compete with Sony A7s …

    • guest

      With the new D800 firmware, using the Record button with the main scroll wheel to adjust ISO and with the front scroll wheel to enable or disable auto-ISO is perfect for me. In low light I often shoot in M with auto-ISO, and as the sun comes up switch to A mode with manual ISO. Not being able to change ISO quickly without moving my left hand from the lens was awkward in the past, and re-assigning the Record button was a perfect solution. Though that picture is likely fake, just in case Nikon is reading this that third scroll wheel is unnecessary, and in an awkward position. The Easy ISO setting never really helped me because it doesn’t apply in M mode, which is when I really need it.

  • Kyle Medina

    Would be smarter for the exposure/shutter to be in the front not the back. We are all used to it in the front for ages.

  • Graeme Williams

    Definitely fake. Someone doesn’t understand the reciprocity law if they are calling the rear command dial exposure… it’s time – exposure is a function of aperture, iso and time…. a fact Nikon will obviously know

  • Davis5

    the scroll only for iso is a troll! imho is very useless… I have the d800 and I dont have all of this space for put another scroll…

  • Michael Choong

    I always want a ISO scroll! What made this come so late?

  • http://www.depoveste.eu Alex Neagoe

    The iso dial would be divine..

  • CV

    I would like the 3rd wheel, but that picture is definitely fake.

  • Christophe

    This is a fake ! I have found the original picture which was used to create that fake: http://www.cameraegg.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/nikon_d800_top-e1403042972669.jpg

  • 103David

    Jeeze, why bother? Who cares? What will be will be.

  • KnightPhoto

    Gotta be a broken record here about Auto-ISO for you event folk that just HAVE to be in control. We’ve already established that Auto-ISO guarantees you getting the LOWEST ISO for a given desired shutter speed. But no you’ve got to be in control don’t you, which means you are actually using a higher ISO at times than you need to – you get that you are doing this to yourself right ;-)

    And you can set max Auto-ISO in one-third-stop-increments. How’s that for control? If you use Auto-ISO in Aperture priority, the camera will automatically drop shutter speed on you when it hits your desired Max-ISO and it still needs more light. Which is often exactly the right thing to do, and exactly what you are going to do manually, only slower than the camera can. And of course you can always monitor this and open the lens aperture if you want, which will re-establish your desired shutter speed.

    It’s a longer topic but you can throw exposure comp in the mix and the above is applicable for shutter priority too.

    Then for manual mode shooters it’s more complicated:
    - in non-changing light it’s a moot point, you don’t need to change ISO so you don’t need Auto-ISO and you don’t need a quick access ISO dial either.
    - let’s see for those situations where you use manual mode, in changing light, well yup use the red-video button (and don’t use Aufo-ISO). But personally in this situation I favour I favour Aperture priority, Auto-ISO, and I just work the exposure compensation button to get the light level I want ;-)

    • Michiel953

      Well… I use auto-ISO, 2500 ceiling, aperture priority almost always. I choose “one stop faster” for the shutterspeed because of the D800′s tendency to show unsharpness much faster. Even then, I find in some situations that ISO is at 100, but I could have used an even faster shutterspeed than the “inverted plus one stop” that I get. A simple scroll to 200 would be very practical then.

      See what I mean?

      • KnightPhoto

        I see what you mean, indeed I do the same thing, when I detect the light will support an even faster shutter speed. But at least that’s where the new red-video button comes in handy when not in Auto-ISO, and even in Auto-ISO the red-button and rear/front wheels control Auto-ISO off or on, and minimum ISO.

        One tip to getting a faster SS is set the minimum ISO to a higher value than base ISO. E.g. if I’m shooting concert and my minimum SS is already a compromise and I’d actually prefer higher when the light supports it, I’ll set minimum ISO to 800 or 1600. Then when stage lighting increases, ISO drops to my minimum and from that point if the light supports it, the camera starts choosing a higher shutter speed than my minimum. This works really well.

        • Michiel953

          Thanks KnightPhoto; you’re obviously a pro; I’m not (just a lawyer with an obsession for photography).

          I actually learnt to set minimum ISO one or two stops higher, when and if I have a reasonable idea of the lighting I’m going to encounter. But just having the camera with me always (well, F2AS today; 2.0/35 AiS and Tri-X @800) and having the minimum at 100 sometimes gets me into trouble, particularly as I haven’t been able to teach myself to take the obligatory peek at the display in the viewfinder. What you don’t see you don’t know…

          Maybe 200 should be my standard minimum ISO setting; with my D700 that was the native ISO, and the D800 handles that level well.

          Oh well…

    • guest

      I find that shooting in M with manual ISO is great at night or in meter-tricking lighting situations, and also when shooting multiple images
      to be stitched together. The Record button reassignment has made this
      much better with no downsides that I can see.

      Agreed that shooting in A mode with Auto-ISO is handy much of the time, but it is slow to need menus to change the max ISO and min shutter speed, as is often needed when pushing the limits in low light. Now that we’ve got the Record button making the ISO button redundant for still shooters, it would be great to be able to reassign the ISO button to changing the max Auto-ISO and min shutter speed with the two scroll wheels, or maybe to be able to assign the Function button for this. Another option would be the front scroll wheel in combination with Mode button for one setting and with the Exp Comp button for the other. I think a fair number of us would just like to be able to reassign all the buttons and scroll wheel combos to any settings we’d like.

      • KnightPhoto

        Agreed, I’d like a button scroll to change the minimum SS value in my Auto-ISO and a button scroll to change the maximum ISO I will allow. I do have my function button set to “top item in MyMenu, which is set to you guessed it – Auto-ISO”.

        What is ironic about the “might as well use a point in shoot crowd (with regard to using Auto-ISO automation)” is that:
        a) they will never admit their full control approach leads to situations where their ISO is actually higher than mine ;-)
        b) by relying on a “I’m a pro and I control everything” mantra and not really thinking about these issues, they are choosing to be slower at adjusting (but of course they think they are faster). I agree there are situations where the meter is wrong and needs to be ignored, but combining that with fast changing light and there is going to be a problem with egregious exposure errors. Excepting the top 1% of course. Those guys are probably seeing exposure with their eyes alone. But for a lot of other shooters I suspect they are missing out as follows – in Aperture priority Auto-ISO you ARE telling the camera both what Aperture you want AND what shutter speed you want and the camera is doing what it needs to in a very dynamic way that they just need to understand. It’s sort of a full manual approach to exposure only much better ;-)

        I think it’s automation not “automatic” and yes if I’ve programmed it correctly it’s doing exactly what I want it to do, only faster, and I can ignore it in the heat of the moment and concentrate on composition, timing, and AF. In the non-heat of the moment I can see what it’s doing and adjust.

  • Cesar

    It would be great to have more scroll wheels but if iso was to be controlled by a wheel, it would need an indicator on the top plate (which needs a redesign anyway… Why does it mute after a few seconds and why is there no iso

  • Cesar

    Wow posting on iPhone is really buggy.

  • Frank

    Where would the exposure compensation button be, then? Looks fake to me.

  • Phonton

    To me it just seems to odd to be fake. I’d say odds are 51% real, 49% fake. Only time will tell…

  • Captain Megaton

    Yes its fake, and not even a good one, but a third scroll wheel (like the NEX7 had?) is an idea that at least deserves some consideration.

  • neversink

    99 percent fake
    1 percent true (because there always has to be some doubt)

  • droll

    So this is the first fake picture. I am eager to see the second and third fake pictures.

  • Jonathan

    Fake as this may be, the placement of the ISO button is one gripe I have with Nikon ergonomics.

  • Cristian

    A separate iso control with a scroll means to me that you need to change your iso setting very fast. I think in real life this kind of control is absolutely useless: I think no one really needs to change the iso so rapidly.
    And, in the case of fast change of light conditions, you can use auto-iso: it’s far and far better than this….

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