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Where in the world is Chase Jarvis?

Chase Jarvis mentioned on Twitter that he is shooting a campaign for a "secret client". In the past Chase and his crew were a big part of the marketing campaigns for the Nikon D90 and D7000 cameras. Of course all this may not be Nikon related, but I have to ask: has anyone seen Chase and what is he shooting?

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  • MJr

    The new Nikon mirrorless camera. Damn mirrorless systems seem to be on a roll !

    • MK

      i don’t think there is a nikon mirrorless system; it more closely resembles a smoke and mirrors system. people were talking about it ever since m43 went on a roll. there have been some interesting rumors but nothing that indicates product release is imminent or even that production has begun.

    • The invisible man.

      Where in the world is the D800 ????

  • jimmy bottoms

    …it’s so secret that he tweets to the world that he’s on a secret job.

    anyone want to doubt his acute awareness of the marketing benefits of social media?

  • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

    Hey guys, no need to trash Chase just because I mentioned him on NR. He has done some stealth work for Nikon before and may or may bot be doing it again, that’s the topic of this post. I have met Chase briefly once and I don’t think he deserves the bashing he is getting here.

    • LGO

      Agree 100%!

    • Ronan

      Just jealous trolls.

      I have also met him, great guy, great photographers.

      Just ignore the weekend photographers trolling.

      They probably shoot Pentax or Olympus anyway…

      :P

    • Steve

      +1

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      I agree. Chase is a breath of fresh air in the photography world. He’s been uncharacteristically open and friendly to other photographers in a world where most are closed off, pretentious, or paranoid of the competition. Of course, it goes without saying he’s a great shooter too.

      • iamlucky13

        Most importantly for Nikon when they hire him, his images make the cameras look technically good, yet still fun. He’s so far given Nikon a mix that really sells the idea you can take good snapshots with friends, but also serious landscapes or abstract shots.

        Not that what a guy like Chase can achieve really means much about the true quality of the camera, but he’s a solid choice for a professional spokesperson.

        I’m sure Nikon also has it figured out that he has value in being in a similar age group as many of the young white collar hobby-shooters and aspiring professionals who make up a large portion of Nikon’s mid-range sales.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          You’re right. He’s dead center in their hottest target demographic, and you’re also right that his images are professional, yet approachable. Some of the stuff I’ve seen him do hasn’t impressed me, but on a whole his work really is fantastic, and he does clearly have a lot of fun doing it. And who couldn’t love the guy? He’s given so much to people both in person (from what I hear from anyone who’s met the guy personally) and on the web.

          Your comment reminds me that I’ve always thought Apple’s approach to selling their software and computers is very interesting (and similar). They always stock iPhoto and iMovie (on their demo machines) with nice, clean, professional (yet approachable) images, even though some of them are what most professionals would consider outtakes. I’ve even seen shots of semi-awkward blinks. Overall, it’s stuff that looks enough like snapshots that you think “Maybe I could have taken those shots” but professional enough that you’d actually get excited if you did. Very smart.

    • broxibear

      I think it’s a cultural thing, it wouldn’t surprise me if those who aren’t particularly enamored with Chase Jarvis are outside the U.S. (this is where everyone outside the States replies to say I’m talking crap lol).
      Anyway…each to their own.
      As I said, I don’t know him and I’m sure he’s a nice guy…if we all liked the same things it would be a boring world.

      • http://www.markmatthews.com.au Mark

        +1

        I’m from Australia and Chase Jarvis is the very person who inspired me to become a photographer.

        What makes it a “boring world” is people who are more interested in criticising other people than doing something good for themselves.

        • broxibear

          Hi Mark,
          What was it about my post that made you “+1″ someone calling me “a seriously stupid person” ?
          If you don’t agree with something I’ve posted that’s cool, post why you disagree… adding a “+1″ to an abusive post will just end up with other abusive posts and then deletion.
          I’m glad you’ve found photographers that have inspired you, plenty have inspired me…but what’s that got to do with what I posted.
          Maybe you should read what I actually posted, not what you think I posted ?

          • http://dundermifflin.com dwight schrute

            Geez chillax. His +1 was for ‘Stuff’ and not you. You’re reading too much into things.

          • broxibear

            The abusive post I was commenting on has been deleted so my post is somewhat confusing now.
            Oh well ?

            • Joe Jarro

              High five!

            • Funduro

              broxibear: I’m a US citizen, I though your deleted post was uncalled for in it’s wording of anyone outside the US. Just saying. The response is the proof. If you did not see it then, no explanation will convince you what set off the replies. :-) no need to reply to this, I won’t.

      • broxibear

        Hi Stuff,
        Could you expand on your post?
        Was there something in this post that made you say “you are a seriously stupid person” ?, or was it my posts across nikonrumors that made you arrive at that conclusion ?

    • dave

      Total agreement. While I haven’t met Chase personally, I’ve had occasion to contact his staff and they have always responded quickly and courteously and been quite helpful, even when they’ve been super-busy. Chase/staff are quite aware of the role they play in Nikon’s marketing machine and it benefits both them and Nikon. Why should Ashton Kutcher get all the glory?

      I have yet to see a successful photographer that doesn’t promote him/her-self. Chase certainly knows how to do it better than most folks without being obnoxious about it.

    • ja

      here here,
      i think hes cool dude

      • Steve

        If Chase is such a nice guy, why is he being compared to Jason Bourne ? Is there something I’ve missed ? Hmmm, let’s consider what we know…
        Jason is a) ficticious b) suffering amnesia and is actually David Webb c) a black ops assassin d) on the run from his trainers who are trying to kill him e) not exactly into photography and clearly more likely to prefer a cannon to a Nikon….whereas Chase is a) a photographer b)keen on Twitter c) does some promo for Nikon d) is pleasant e)likes lattes, allegedly.

        • ja

          jason bourne maybe ficticious but the film is based around true facts of oliver north and we all remeber what he got upto ,
          chase is more like 007 and maybe hes working on the 008

    • jimmy bottoms

      chase jarvis announces indiscriminately on the WWW that he’s doing ‘secret testing’ comparable to the escapades of a secret agent (jason bourne). sorry, but saying that chase uses social media to forward his own brand and to hype up a buzz for whatever it is that he’s testing (and of course we’ll stay tuned to find out) isn’t bashing him. it isn’t even criticism.

      it’s just stating what he does.

      • Steve

        I have worked out where he is.

        It is either in the same ward as Napoleon Bonaparte, or he has managed to get his head so far up his own arse he has entered a new dimension.

        I mean, come on, there’s marketing bs, then there’s narcissism, and then we have a major departure from reality.

        Jason Bourne ? What’s next ? Bond, Jesus Bond ? Licensed to kill and bring back to life ?

        Nice or not, the guy is clearly high on himself.

        • ja

          sounds like you have entered a similar dimension steve,your own

  • Bip

    Could it be Lytro Light-Field Camera? This is one camera that will change the world.

    Any chance Nikon use this type of sensor in the future (D4.1S, may be)?

    • cpm5280

      > “Any chance Nikon use this type of sensor in the future (D4.1S, may be)?”

      No. And especially not in a D4.

  • Itakeyourphoto

    Nikon Dslr website is down. I smell new camera being added offline at the site.
    Could it be the? Or the? Or the ? Or not the? Indulge yourself.

    • Bip

      No, it’s not. I just checked and I have access with no problem. Nothing new has been added. Perhaps your server is down.

      • Itakeyourphoto

        It’s up now! But it was Down earlier. Im sure they are preeping for something.

  • Distanted

    My only disappointment is that his tweets don’t say “In the editing room, racing to beat this week’s launch!”

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      “At the UPS store, getting ready to ship each of you loyal followers at NR your own body” :)

      • BartyL

        Ok, I’m now officially a loyal follower at NR.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          Welcome. Back of the line, friend. :)

  • David

    Why tweet about secret stuff and why do we need to know now?
    There’s no rumour here.

    • broxibear

      Hi David,
      “Why tweet about secret stuff”
      You’re right…as I said, he’s good at marketing.

    • Mock Kenwell

      How naive are we here? Nikon knows he’s a shameless self-promoter (and a good shooter), and knows he will release harmless but tantalizing nuggets of info like the one above. Each of them is using the other. That’s business.

      • iamlucky13

        Bingo! Don’t waste effort on a planned campaign to create buzz that just ends up sounding like more marketing spin. Let it seem spontaneous, and like we’re privy to a secret.

        And looking at the post count so far, it’s working.

        So next question – assuming it’s for Nikon, what’s the product?

        The timing seems appropriate for an August launch (shoot, edit, give the marketing guys time to get materials printed, etc), when apparently certain Nikon employees are being forbidden from taking a vacation.

        I’d like to think the D4 or D800 is coming out around the same time as the Sony who’s sensor they may well be using, but there’s separate rumors that those will not be out until October and early 2012, respectively.

        So EVIL perhaps? Chase has strong popular appeal, and almost certainly the EVIL will be for the masses.

      • Hhom Togan

        That´s Nikon PR team, it is simple they make you believe there are “leaks” or impromptu pro´s doing cool stuff, in reality this is PLANNED, this is the way to do advertising without wasting too much money, as a matter of fact they live to feed sites like this one.

        Sorry NR admin I didn´t mean to offend but you are one more in their public relationship games to draw attention to the brand and products.

  • Mike

    Wish it was a D400, or the D4, but since he’s only been on the consumer end of stuff recently, idk wtf it could be.

    • Mike

      Although a 24mp D400 or a 32mp D4 with reasonable high iso quality would be a wet dream of mine, lol.

      • ja

        ha ha class ,
        i myself is holding out for the D400 but also keeping an eye on the d4 , hope the D400 comes in a pro body style something like the D2x now that would be something

  • SNRatio

    Obviously, this is a time when Nikon employs some professional shooters for beta testing and producing material for an upcoming (August would be to expect) release. Chase Jarvis could be among them, and he is by no means confined to DX/consumer oriented gear.

    I think the D4 release is the next big one from Nikon – I think it would be strange if they release something very important in the few weeks left before the expected release.

    Might be a D400 he is testing and documenting.. he surely would be a good person for that job.

  • broxibear
  • http://www.twitter.com/#!/mc_razza mc_razza

    I really liked Chase Jarvis’ ad for the D7000. It totally rocks. :)

  • broxibear

    Claudius Schulze updated his article about pre-ordering a D800…
    “UPDATE: apparently, both D4 and D800 are severely delayed because of the heavy quake damage to Nikon’s plant in Sendai, Japan.”
    http://claudiusschulze.com/blog/2011/nikon-d800-preordered/
    I’m still expecting a D800 announcement in Sept and D4 in 2012, I don’t have any information about the D400…and as I keep reminding people, announcements and releases are two different things.

    • TheFantasticG

      I still think it’ll be called the D9000, not the D400.

      • Global

        D9K at best.

        Enough with the zeros already!

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      I wish the Japanese were as poor at keeping secrets as the Chinese. Seems like we know about the next version of the iPad 7 years before it’s announced, but we’re not even really sure the latest Nikon release is real until a few months have passed after its announcement.

      Come on, Hiroshi—leak those photos. Would it hurt your sense of statesmanship that much to show us a little love?

      • Hhom Togan

        These leaks are intentional to create hype, you think a company that has so many industrial secrets would inadvertely “leak” information that could be of benefit to the competition???

        A PR team focuses on places where they know this info will be picked up and spreaded through the net, many of the NR admin sources may be PR people disguised as internal sources, Public Relationship campaigns can be even more hardcore in making you believe something.

        • Victor Hassleblood

          “(…) even more hardcore in making you believe something.”
          This is precisely what some people want. There is no cure.

      • patrick

        Ipads have no real competition- Nikon does.

      • ja

        i totally agree , why they (nikon) can’t just say what is coming out this year dont need to give specs just as long as we know whats coming…………. . . . . . . . . . . . . .i think when you have a substantial amount of nikon pro kit nikon should send you a loyalty card so when you buy your next piece of pro kit you get a 7% discount not only would that keep you loyal but customer relations would fantastic , just an idea come on nikon you know it makes sense

  • PanchoPantera

    HE’S WORKING FOR THE BRITISH SECRET SERVICE AND IS TESTING WEAPONS ON THE NEW BMW Z5 IN THEANTARCTICA (WEAPONS WHICH WERE PROVIDED BY PENTAX Q)

  • broxibear
  • http://www.amanochocolate.com Art

    I think I saw him last week in the mall wearing a red and white striped shirt….
    (Sorry, I couldn’t resist.)

  • http://davidgadreauphotography.ca David G.

    I can’t wait to see what Chase is cooking up!

  • http://davidjpcd.blogspot.com/ long david

    I think its hardly Nikon related.
    Chase only does DX upper entry level models for Nikon, ya’ll got the point.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/KaceyJordan CTLG

    Why all the hate for Chase Jarvis? Hateful much? My God. Never met a more pretentious group of people in my life as photographers. You would love to be in his shoes and you can’t stand it! Grow up people and recognize talent. You’ll never get anywhere in this world hating on people that are successful in your field.

    • Matt_XVI

      Dude, are you serious? I hardly see anyone bashing him at all let alone giving you such ammunition to get your panties all tied up in a knot. You’re acting as if every second post on here is taking a cheap shot at him.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/KaceyJordan CTLG

        I take it you didn’t read the first page of comments. Even Admin said something about the bashing…..

        • Matt_XVI

          Admin casually mentioned that there is no reason for bashing him and that he’s a good guy. You pretty much crucify everyone and call us all a group of pretentious photographers far after a few untactful comments were made. If you read sequentially your comment seemed overly harsh and out of nowhere and still very disproportionate to the few comments that were made much earlier on.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/KaceyJordan CTLG

            Did you bash Chase? If you didn’t, my comment was not directed towards you, so don’t take offense to it. You stated that i’m acting like every other post was a bash-fest, but my rebutle is that you’re acting like it never happened.

            Furthermore, I have not crucified anybody, just chastised the people that refuse to act with professionalism. I call it like I see it. I didn’t name names either…..not sure why you’re so offended.

            • http://www.greenteaphotography.ca Matt XVI

              I wasn’t offended CTLG, nor do I believe it should have been interpreted that way. I respect Chase’s work very much however I found your chastisement of fellow members was overblown and overly harsh and was calling you out on it.

  • broxibear

    New Nikon Coolpix advert I came across (in French) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcUTgNQJEXA

  • broxibear

    Over three months after the earthquake international flights from Sendai Airport have resumed…
    “International flight operations from Sendai Airport, which had been canceled since the Tohoku earthquake, reopened on Thursday night with the departure of a chartered jet carrying 130 passengers to Malaga in Spain.
    The airport was severely damaged in the earthquake and ensuing tsunami that struck the Tohoku region on March 11. Authorities say that the flights are currently limited to Japanese nationals, because the immigration control system has not yet been completely restored.
    Passengers are currently unable to board airplanes directly from the terminal and are instead asked to use a gangway. An airport spokesman said that although only chartered and non-regular flights are operating at the moment, regular routes will resume from next month.”
    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/international-flights-from-sendai-airport-resume
    The airprot may be reopening but elsewhere in Sendai, three months on, conditions for people are really bad…
    “The bullet trains may be running, but in the fishing villages and tiny ports that litter the jagged coastline north of Sendai, thousands are surviving on aid handouts. The emergency cash promised by the government is yet to arrive.”
    “it remains a nightmare of twisted metal and fragments of First World comfort. The raging 98ft wave caused annihilation. Harmony has long disappeared from Ishinomaki, too. The port town, 30 miles from Sendai, took the full force of the tsunami. It is a ghost town shrouded in the stench of rotting fish.”
    “In the immediate aftermath of the tsunami, orderly queues snaked for miles for food, water and fuel. There was no looting and raping, which often accompanies natural disasters elsewhere.
    Now, though, victims break down when I meet them. Mother-of-two Mrs Hiroake has lived with her family on two mats in an evacuation shelter in Ishinomaki since the tsunami hit. A staggering 90,000 people remain in shelters.”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005289/The-toxic-truth-Japans-harmony-tsunami.html

    • LGO

      Thanks broxibear for the update.

      I have always wondered how the Japanese people can be so resolute and so hard-working yet have a government that seems so inept.

      • LOL

        It what ways are they inept?

        • LGO

          One could write an essay on how the Japanese Govt. can do more but have not but the posted article already shows one of this:

          “The bullet trains may be running, but in the fishing villages and tiny ports that litter the jagged coastline north of Sendai, thousands are surviving on aid handouts. The emergency cash promised by the government is yet to arrive.”

          • broxibear

            I’m still trying to work out how my post about Sendai turned into a global warming debate?
            What next…posters calling me an Seriously supid?…oh wait that happened already lol…Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

      • One More Thought

        I think all countries need to start placing people first, and not profit. Too often decisions are made based on short term profit, like there’s no tomorrow, and then when tomorrow comes, a crisis hits.

        Also, sadly, all countries need to implement far more vigorous policies to combat climate change and protect the environment. When making economic decisions, no one ever takes into account the cost of disasters like the one that hit Japan.

        We’ve dug ourselves into a great big hole with regards to the environment and our modes of energy production. Survival of our species is not guaranteed, yet most of us take that for granted. We can do better.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          I’m sorry, but I disagree. Global warming is the biggest fraud committed to the world population in the last 2 centuries. The last thing we need is more burdensome regulations and laws that enrich and empower a few at the expense of many. As LGO has indicated, we need LESS government intervention—not more.

          • I disagree too

            Yeah!!!
            Freedom for BP, freedom for Enron, freedom for Golden Sachs
            And the world turns cooler…

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              Ironic, isn’t it, that three of the most regulated industries in the WORLD create the biggest disasters. So, tell me again how all that oversight has saved us from the impending doom these agencies and “experts” claim to protect us from? Or is it rather that our forfeiture of individual and collective responsibility in choosing who we will support financially is the real culprit for our social disasters?

              Seems like it’s something we all ought to consider.

          • One More Thought

            Global warming is accepted by the overwhelming majority of the scientific community. It is a fact, but some deny it, just like some deny evolution, and just like some denied the fact that smoking causes cancer. At one time people didn’t want to believe that the earth revolved around the sun, rather than the other way around.

            There is no debate any longer; just look at the melting polar ice caps. It’s time to act before it’s too late for us all. We only get one earth.

            As for less govt intervention, I’m sure the Japanese wished that their govt had been more aggressive in regulating Tepco and insisting on higher standards in nuclear power safety.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              What is a fact? Global warming? Or the fact that scientists and researchers who make a living searching for links to man’s influence in gw support something that directly affects their paycheck?

              If there is no longer any debate, why do we see scientists and climatologists betting each other thousands and tens-of-thousands of dollars in defense of their opposing position on global warming? And why do we see the same credible scientists and climatologists making public statements and showing research that contradict the seeming “facts”?

              The only fact here is that both the idea of anthropogenic global warming and evolution are scientific THEORIES—ideas that somebody conjured up in their brain and are TRYING to prove. That’s fine. That’s science, and scientists are welcome to engage in it. However, there is no “fact” of the matter because the matter is still UNPROVEN. Until it is PROVEN, there should be no POLICY, plain and simple.

              The Bible, a PROVEN historical document dating back thousands of years has accurately predicted many of problems we’re seeing today. Why does this have no place in scientific discourse? Because it is associated with the notion of God, something many scientists choose to disbelieve? Again, where’s the proof there is no God? UNPROVEN scientific THEORIES have no place in policy or law.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              Oh, and as for government intervention, less intervention is precisely what may have saved more people through the past number of decades. Consider a society that relied on its citizens rather than “officials” in order to decide what is safe and accepted. Instead of allowing the few fallible experts decide our fate (experts that have often been bought, threatened, duped, or proven too dumb to know how to do their job correctly), these citizens would decide collectively what is best for themselves.

              Oversight entities such as the FDA, EPA, NISA, etc have shown an inability to sufficiently safeguard the citizens it claims to protect, despite these agencies growing in scope and funding many times over through the years. The concept of oversight bodies is not a scalable one in a large society, and not necessary in a small society. The answer, then, is less oversight, and more responsibility of the individual citizen to decide what is best for him- or herself.

            • AnoNemo

              Ron,

              One question for you, is the earth flat as a plate?

              Tell me what happens with smoke that comes out of chimney?

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              AnoNemo,

              Trying to make it seem as though I am unintelligent simply because I don’t believe in your religion is lame debate.

              The smoke out of your chimney is absorbed by all of the plant life inhabiting this planet—plant live which then transforms that *filthy smoke* into nice clean oxygen which allows us to live and breathe throughout the short term of our lives here on Earth.

              It seems that is no longer common knowledge?

            • One More Thought

              Ron, with all due respect, evolution is a fact, not a theory. The explosion in biological knowledge over the last century or so entirely rests on evolution. Take away evolution, and you send our biological knowledge back to the dark ages. Evolution literally is the foundation of modern biology.

              Faith can coexist with evolution and science, if you do not insist in religious texts being a scientific textbook. In fact, faith, by definition, should not require a remaking of science to deliver a proof. Religion attempts to answer the big questions of meaning and conduct, not science. And all religions have at their core a respect for truth.

            • AnoNemo

              Ron,

              Sorry about my mockery but when I hear sentences such as “left-wing power mongers” I start shaking my head.

              So you think that Global warming is not man made? I agree there are cyclical changes but when the “human” goes out with a catterpillar and deforests half of the amazon in less than 50 yrs it does not have effect on the climate? Why don’t you try this, go out in your garden cut out all trees get rid of the grass and wait what will happen.

              This has nothing to do with religion my friend. It has more to do with common sense. Have you ever had a chance to see the seaside of Croatia? One side of the hill is just rocks. What do you think why? Because those trees were cut out and taken to build Venice. Please take a look at the results. Hundreds of years passed by and nature was unable to recover.

              Ron, I am sorry but you may want to experiment a bit or travel to places where the damage was done and see by yourself.

            • Geoff

              Pish Posh on global warming. That is why they now use Climate Change since we all know it is NOT getting hotter.

          • Jodiah Jacobs

            Global Warming is not a hoax. It is science. Since when do we choose whether or not to believe in science? Is it because it is inconvenient to you? Regulations are rules and outlines designed to produce a desired outcome in specific situations. Nikon strictly regulates the process that produces their cameras. They make a nice product due to their strict adherence to their regulations.
            I’m so sick of people using that tired excuse to blow off concepts that might require a change (or inconvenience).
            The atmosphere is a very thin layer protecting you from the vacuum of space. How much carbon (or anything else) do you think we can pump into it without causing some kind of change? Were the holes in the ozone a scam too? Do you want lead back in your gasoline or paint? Do you really want mercury in the food chain?
            We can beat this thing, but we have to pull our heads out of our collective *$$es and admit we have a problem. And it’s not going to get better or go away by itself.
            Big Oil has pulled a masterful media stunt to plant the idea in your head that the science behind global warming is debatable, or worse, a hoax.
            Global warming is a fact of life. The debate should be on how to fix it, not whether it’s happening or not.
            I believe in science, I venture we all believe in science or we wouldn’t be putting glass in front of the little boxes that we use to capture images with.
            Science as a hoax!
            I thought we left that mindset back in the Darkages.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              Man-made global warming is not science. It is scientific speculation and theory. Nothing more. I’m sorry if the left wing power-mongers who are becoming enriched on this scam have duped you into believing it is something you need to fear or believe.

              I am confident that in 50 years (probably much, much less) there will be an entirely different controversy that needs to be debunked. In the meantime, the global warming tripe will fall into the annals of history as bunk science.

              Follow the money, and you’ll see the oil companies are not the only players in this power struggle. Follow the money and you’ll see Al Gore and others like him becoming so filthy rich on our naivety (and world government’s sponsorships) that only insanity could allow you to avoid asking what the true motivations are behind the demagoguery that is the great global warming debate.

              If, however, you’d like to take the lead in setting the example for the rest of us and stop wearing clothes that require the use of fuels or require materials that cause pollution or deforestation, and would like to stop buying goods that use plastics, and would like to stop eating food that is harvested with machines that burn oil, and would like to turn off the electricity in your home (since it’s half powered by coal), and would like to move out of your house that is built with all the materials that you claim are dangerous to the environment, and would like to walk barefoot somewhere other than paved roads to get to a new forest home that is free from any man-made elements, then I commend you. You, my friend, are willing to live your ideals, rather than flinging them on others to try on first.

            • AnoNemo

              Ron,

              After reading this rant of yours now I am convinced that for you the Earth is flat as a plate.

            • Victor Hassleblood

              @AnoNemo,
              you are probably right about Ron.
              While the degree of man-made or natural climate change might be at question, there is a fairly significant change of percentages in carbon dioxide and oxygen in our air to witness for years now. No one sane would argue that. And no one sane would question a simple fact like this one here: burning carbon uses oxygen as well as it produces carbon dioxide.
              But what the ###k has this discussion lost on NR???
              Is Chase running on petrol?

            • Rick

              Sorry but the volcanoes in Iceland and Chile put more CO2 into the atmosphere in about 30min than man could pump out in 30 years. Global warming exists but is a natural consequence of solar cycles. This hooey about settled science is making Galileo turn over in his grave. SCIENCE IS NEVER SETTLED. JMHO

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              Something the ideologues will apparently never acknowledge in today’s “debate”, thus rendering it a denial instead.

          • ja

            globe warming has nothing to do with man , its the world evolving like it has done from day 1 , man can’t stop nature we are just here for the ride.
            now i here you all typing away saying whats this got to do with chasejarvis

  • C_QQ_C

    I’d say he’s in New Zealand, looking at his recent pics… : http://www.grapherphoto.com/?p=590

  • na

    using the new d100000000 dslr to take take bin laden’s body for the new nikon “i am” tv ad

  • V’az D’frenz

    Slow months in rumor land – I really like your work admin but tired of the reaching here. At least add some more guest posters :-)

  • R R

    I hope not another entry level DSLR comes out .. DX .. and tourist oriented piece of crap.. man.. bring the real cameras!

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      Just remember—that’s what pays the bills for Nikon so the rest of us can enjoy the REAL cameras a la D800, D4, D4x, D10,000, etc. But I hear you, let’s get some real cameras coming already!

    • TheFantasticG

      Yeah!!! Damn DX fake photos! Wait, DX cameras are fake, as opposed to the “real” and not imagined FX cameras? God, why do you let idiots have children and then proceed not to strike them dead when those idiot children find the internet and start spouting their stupid thoughts!? Unless, you’re in on it too!!

  • Joe Jarro

    Let’s cut to the Chase here…..
    Mirrorless is what I am placing my bets on.

    PS. no long toes here :)

  • Itakeyourphoto

    I think Jarvis is Chasing the new camera format: MX format.
    Nikon have the DX and FX lineup, now it’s time for MX.
    Yes it will be called MX, not mirrorless.

  • mshi

    Could he be at Fukushima shooting for TEPCO?

  • http://photoartbymark.zenfolio.com photoartbymark

    after looking at his images i have to say a talented guy

  • broxibear

    I see Nikon Malaysia are giving away a free 50mm f1.8 AFD with every D7000 body http://www.nikon.com.my/pages/my/articles/332/D7000 star (2).jpg
    Don’t know if this is the end for the f1.8 AFD or just another promotion.

  • C_QQ_C

    I KNO where he is, but it seems I’m not allowed to tell becasue my messages where deleted straight afeter posting his location…. ( i saw his pictures he has taken with EXIF attached..) .

    • Geoff

      I wonder why they would be deleted, Admin ??

  • AnoNemo

    Where in the world is NR Admin?

  • He is shooting the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue on Sir Richard Branson’s private island Necker, located in the British Virgin Islands.

  • Mike

    “Man-made global warming is not science.”

    Wow we have tea party conspiracy theorists here?

    Haha I didn’t think NR’s base was *that* crazy.

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      I’m not a tea party member.

      I am, however, a thinking, reasoning human, entitled to draw my own logical conclusions while looking at the big picture. I only wish more humans would think for themselves, instead of letting “experts” in superiority convince them that we’re the bane of the Earth. We have let experts tell us that we’re rich enough to buy houses that are too big for our families and budgets. We have let experts tell us our food is safe when it is in fact poisoned by poor practices. We have let “education experts” convince us that a degree brings security, and that self-learning leads to jail. We’ve even let “experts” shame us for being blessed with wealth from our hard work and good decisions.

      If we spent half the time on real issues of human need rather than following murky scientific speculation at best, then this world would be unrecognizable in its current form.

      Global warming may indeed be man-made. It may then ALSO be dangerous enough that it destroys the only planet where humans are known to inhabit. One day we may learn without any doubt that it indeed is a very real problem. At that time, you can feel free to laugh at me all you like, and I’ll concede I was wrong. But until then, neither I myself nor the other 50%+ of reasoning Americans will capitulate to your mud-slinging. I’m tired of hearing the stupid argument that because I believe in God and don’t believe in government I must be a dumb hick. The elitist jibe is a load of crap I’m not going to lie down and take.

      • Jodiah Jacobs

        This is not about your religious beliefs, if you would do what you say, think for yourself, open your eyes, look at the world around you and at all we have put upon her (the earth) how can you say that what we have done, what we are doing has no affect on the climate? It’s ludicrous! We’ve basically paved over the whole east coast of America, we are blowing the tops off of mountains to get at the coal, our hunger for power and oil is unsatiable. We don’t have to go back to the stone ages to fix this, but we do have to take it seriously and work to turn it around. Work against the entrenched special interests that own us and our government. How hard could it be to find cleaner ways to power our country. I say it’s not that hard, it just takes a collective will and understanding of the issues that confront us. Global warming is real. Look out the window, you can practically see it happening in real time.
        It’s a big problem and for many of us it’s pretty hard to wrap our heads around it. It’s a scary proposition! Most people I know are afraid to acknowledge it. They don,t know what to do or how to make the changes. They feel bad about all the things you previously mentioned (having shoes and driving cars, living really). Here is where we really need guidance and leadership: I feel like our government should take the lead and provide us with a path to a cleaner planet. Incentivize clean energy sources (not nuclear and there is no such thing as clean coal, don’t fall for that). What’s w wrong with wind, solar, geo-thermal and hydro-electric? Why do we have to destroy mountains and pristine places like the bottom of the Gulf and Prud’hon Bay?
        What can I do as an individual? I made sure I have enough insulation in my house, sealed air leaks, bought energy efficient appliances and lo flo fixtures, and LED light bulbs and traded the minivan for a compact. My electric bill is around seventy dollars a month ( I know peop,e that pay 5-6 hundred a month in electric bill for a residential home).
        Do what you can, but don’t bury your head in the sand. God wouldn’t want you to turn away from your responsibilities. We are all responsible for what is happening to the planet. God is infinite, the planet and her resources, including her ability to absorb carbon, are not.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          Thank you too, Jodiah, for keeping your argument on point.

          Show me one government program that has actually performed better than private industry. Government is inefficient, indifferent, and inconsiderate of the bigger picture. Often government officials make decisions to “fix” the problem now, despite the fact that it will create a larger problem later just so they can look good in the eyes of voters. Look at the massive bailouts. We will pay the price for that decision sooner or later, and it will come with interest. Even the NY Times has written articles pointing to the inefficiencies of governments trying to regulate new energy resources: NY Times Link. And they’re the most liberal, left leaning “news” source out there!

          Wind, solar, geothermal and hydro-electric are great in theory, but clearly not without their enormous costs, and not just monetarily. None of those energies are sustainable on a large scale, at a material cost any nation can afford. Look at Spain to see what I believe we’ll see when we jack the cost of heating our homes in the winter to over $1k per month, which is what Obama has said will happen if he gets his way with the coal industry and energy in general. Once these technologies can safely and economically replace fossil fuels they should be considered on their own merits.

          But if you think solar is “easy”, or wind is “easy”, then you need to study a bit further. For instance, I did the math once on the land required to replace a single oil/coal burning plant with wind power. The numbers were astounding! I don’t remember the exact figures, but it was high tens or low hundreds of miles in order to replace a single traditional power plant which can be situated on less than 1 square mile. Look at the article link above to see how much land is required for solar to even make a DENT in traditional energy sources.

          I am responsible for a family of 7 (me included). What do I do? Do I trade in my SUV for a compact? Even a minivan no longer carries my family. Am I evil because I believe a family is the most important and cherished thing I can have in this life?

          The real question is this: can our world economies sustain $10/gallon and more for gasoline? Can we afford over $1,000/month for gas and electric? Will farmers, truck drivers, even photographers be able to continue paying these prices to stay alive? Will they even be able to afford the cost of the goods and fuel to get to work to earn an unsustainable income? Definitely not. Do you want to be responsible for that?

          If we continue to cripple our economy with this foolish pursuit, we’ll wish we were only living in a 1 degree increase in climate.

          My responsibility is to people first. If they are sacrificed for their “better good” what good will it do?

          • AnoNemo

            Ron,
            Ignorance is not an excuse!

            What do you think how much energy the sun project to the surface of the earth? If we were smart enough (and don’t make oil companies a oil cartels rich) in 40 minutes enough energy hits the surface of the earth that would provide energy for all human for 1 year.

            Now, please think about for a second why we do not have technology to harvest energy that does not destroy the environment.

      • One More Thought

        Ron…first of all I think we all respect your opinion. And yes, I advocate people being independent thinkers. But that also means I don’t listen to the Rush Limbaugh types out there who deny global warming.

        Being an independent thinker frees me to respect science and reasoning. Global warming is not in question; the science has answered that. One can no longer call that into question than calling into question the basic laws of physics such as gravity.

        There’s no conspiracy among the scientists; most get paid modestly for doing unglamorous research, and would get paid the exact same no matter what their conclusions. In fact, the financial incentive rests with those who would like more grants from the big oil companies, not the other way around. I don’t think many scientists get rich by opposing the wealthiest companies in the world.

        From a religious standpoint, I would think believers of all faith would feel compelled to err on the side of caution in protecting the planet. A true conservative would conserve the earth, not wreck it.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          First of all, let me say I appreciate your measured response to the topic of global warming, and your restraint from bashing me personally for my beliefs. It’s a breath of fresh air whenever someone can put aside childish responses. Thank you.

          Again, however, I disagree. Twice now insinuations have been made that I fit nicely slotted into a category of ‘common disbeliever.’ The fact is that I’m an independent thinking conservative, and haven’t listened to the radio characters such as Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity for more than 10-20 hours (max) in my entire life. I don’t watch Fox news (haven’t had cable, satellite tv etc in my place of residence for over 15 years). I don’t read up on the latest or greatest conspiracy theories. I arrive at my conclusions based on what I read and see in variety of mediums, but mostly by observing the ACTIONS of each side. Nobody is perfect. That is the first and most obvious point. But when I see the hypocritical behavior of those preaching a more ‘intelligent’, more ‘pure’ lifestyle paid for by humans in favor of the planet, I get really upset. Al Gore is the prince of global warming today, and he’s among the worst offenders. Anyone that thinks he’s merely doing his part for a better planet with no thought of himself is blind. Not only that, but his predictions are getting more and more far-fetched and alarmist as temperatures decrease of late. He is the modern day equivalent of a snake-oil salesman, with the exception that he’s the first billion-dollar-bound one to walk the earth (in a private jet).

          For the part of religious beliefs: I don’t litter. In fact, I go out of my way to clean up other people’s litter, and even hand it back to them in person if I witness them doing it. I don’t condone trashing the planet any more than the next thoughtful resident of this planet. But I also know that this planet was created for me and you to enjoy. It is here for us to both discover, and utilize for the better good of the only species known to all the universe capable of reason and rational thought, progress and wisdom—Mankind.

          It seems like in an effort to “save the planet” for mankind, some would rob mankind from having it at all. My beliefs are strongly rooted in the idea that this is not the purpose this planet has to serve. I believe the planet is here FOR mankind FIRST, and that the energy we derive from the planet is a fulfillment of its purpose of creation, and a gift for us to use wisely. I do not feel guilty for using the fuel found in the earth, nor do I feel it is our obligation or place to refuse the blessing of it being here for our progress.

          Of course, my belief in God is the centerpiece to the foundation of my views on science, society, politics, and life. That will likely lead me to a vastly different place than you. I’m ok with that. I don’t expect you to come to church with me, nor do I expect you to burn fossil fuels. I’m sure then that you can understand the many of us who are frustrated by the constant heckling and preaching from the left who say that it is our duty to pay a higher price to an unseen god, to buy away our guilt for an unknown sin, and to sell our life of comfort for an unreachable recompense.

          The fact is that the science is in doubt by many, scientists and non-scientists alike. Forget that. Show me how with today’s technology we can replace fossil fuels. The law of supply and demand should dictate prices on current and future energy sources. Putting an artificial cap on one or subsidy on another WILL lead to more disastrous and immediate consequences for all of mankind much sooner than a 1° rise in mean temperatures will. It’s already happening. As economies tank from the burden of a yet unproven science, the toll on the human family will rise like the supposed tides in Gore’s computer-generated climate models.

          • One More Thought

            Thanks Ron for taking a civil approach as well.

            First, economies are not “tanking” due to the “burden of a yet unproven science.” Excessive environmental regulation did not produce our current economic woes. Those were caused by excessive speculation in a real estate bubble, some of which could have been prevented by better regulation of the lending and securities industries. In fact, in those countries where regulation was tighter, like Canada, they did not suffer the same problems.

            Second, the oil industry already enjoys the benefit of many subsidies and tax breaks that they have lobbied hard for…it’s not a level playing field, but one tilted in their favor.

            Third, the world has paid already a heavy economic toll for its recent environmental disasters.

            Finally, and I cannot stress this enough, but global warming is settled science. There is no debate.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              I hear you on the oil industry, and I am deeply against oil subsidies as well. Typically subsidies may offer some initial benefits, but over time I think the disadvantages tend to far outweigh the advantages, often in ways that are extremely difficult to identify since there isn’t an alternative for the average person to easily compare it to.

              But make no mistake: there is plenty of objective, expert argument (even from the leading climate change scientist) supporting the fact that the debate is not over, but rather quite debatable to begin with.

          • MRPhotoau

            Hi Ron,
            A very outspoken man. I must say with all honesty that I often skim your posts as I don’t often have the time to waste, only coming onto nr to get excited over the D4 release and an update finally to the 50mm 1.2 (hope its worth the wait, and my AUD$1500). Anyway I just wanted to say that you have at least one person on here that agrees with you. I’m going to repeat what you said in bold buddy.
            GLOBAL WARMING AND ESPECIALLY EVOLUTION ARE THEORIES, NOTHING MORE!!!
            No one even talks global warming anymore, they call it climate change. I will say though, I believe, it would be better termed as a sign of the times.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              Thanks for speaking up, MRPhotoau. I know I’m vocal, but I have decided I need to stop being part of the silent and mopey majority. Glad you’ve chipped in. Sign of the times seems a very valid hypothesis. :)

              +1 on the D4 anxiety/excitement. I can’t wait until the new cameras discussed here are no longer theories themselves.

            • Clark Kampfe

              Inigo Montoya says, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

              The American Association for the Advancement of Science says, “A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than “just a theory.” It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.”

              https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Theory#Scientific_theories

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              “Originally the word theory is a technical term from Ancient Greek. It is derived from theoria, meaning “a looking at, viewing, beholding”, and refers to contemplation or speculation, as opposed to action. Theory is especially often contrasted to “practice” (Greek praxis) an Aristotelian concept which is used in a broad way to refer to any thing done for the sake of any action, in contrast with theory, which is not.”

              “Theories are distinct from theorems: theorems are derived deductively from theories according to a formal system of rules, generally as a first step in testing or applying the theory in a concrete situation. Theories are abstract and conceptual, and to this end they are never considered right or wrong. Instead, they are supported or challenged by observations in the world. They are ‘rigorously tentative’, meaning that they are proposed as true but expected to satisfy careful examination to account for the possibility of faulty inference or incorrect observation. Sometimes theories are falsified, meaning that an explicit set of observations contradicts some fundamental assumption of the theory, but more often theories are revised to conform to new observations, by restricting the class of phenomena the theory applies to or changing the assertions made. Sometimes a theory is set aside by scholars because there is no way to examine its assertions analytically; these may continue on in the popular imagination until some means of examination is found which either refutes or lends credence to the theory.”

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

              Something assumed as truth merely by default does not make it true. Truth is eternal. Science is evolving. Indeed, we all (scientists included) dream of the day when Science catches up.

              This is called a paradox.

            • Clark Kampfe

              Incorrectly bolding words doesn’t change the scientific understanding of the word “theory”.

              How the hell would those scientists know what the hell they’re talking about? I mean, they’re only the ones who gave us the theories of gravitation, germ-based disease, relativity, electricity, aerodynamic lift, etc. etc. Those theories sure sound like a bunch of crap, don’t they?

              “Theories are abstract and conceptual, and to this end they are never considered right or wrong. Instead, they are supported or challenged by observations in the world. They are ‘rigorously tentative’, meaning that they are proposed as true but expected to satisfy careful examination to account for the possibility of faulty inference or incorrect observation. Sometimes theories are falsified, meaning that an explicit set of observations contradicts some fundamental assumption of the theory, but more often theories are revised to conform to new observations, by restricting the class of phenomena the theory applies to or changing the assertions made.”

              I mean, that quote is literally describing the point of science. It is literally the process of searching for and identifying patterns within the observable phenomena of the universe, based around the testing and application of reasoned assertions.

              Your incorrect and arrogant use of the word “theory” to slander the work of people who actually do science doesn’t make their work any less substantial or or any less correct at this point in our present understanding in the field of geological climatology.

              Gravity isn’t “assumed to be true”, and neither is climate change. The theory of gravitation has been, and continues to be experimentally tested all the way up to and including the present day. That’s how science works. It doesn’t work because it wants to be moralizing, or convince you that you’re a bad human being for running your air conditioner longer than you should. It works because the process of hypothesis-experiment-analysis-peer review calls a spade a spade (read: bullshit like homeopathy, alchemy, telepathy), removing it from our present, experimentally-grounded understanding of reality.

              Choosing to ignore the evidence is your choice. But when you ignore science, it doesn’t ignore you. There always have been, and always will be quacks (and no, I’m not ashamed of calling someone a quack for willfully ignoring verifiable scientific evidence). And accordingly, there will also always be a voice of reason, grounded in science, quick to decry unfounded woo for what it really is: bullshit. As our understanding of the world evolves, the people who doubt the theories of evolution and anthropogenic climate change will be left with the flat-earthers and alchemists.

              The fact that the sponsors of Fox News (who stand to lose money from a rational reaction to climate change) play such a large part in this whole debate says a whole lot about our society’s regard for “truth”.

              “Something assumed as truth merely by default does not make it true.”

              Quite right. But having a veritable mountain of peer-reviewed scientific evidence and study doesn’t hurt. And it certainly is better than making assertions based on the ramblings of quacks being paid off by corporations that stand to benefit financially from specific, contra-scientific outcomes.

            • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

              “this trend is not statistically significant”

              “[That] the debate is over…is not my view”

              Wanna guess who said that in an official interview?

              It doesn’t sound as ‘true as gravity’ to me.

      • Hhom Togan

        Shut up republican son of Sarah Palin!

  • Mike

    “Man-made global warming is not science.”

    Wow we have tea party conspiracy theorists here?

  • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

    I have very limited Internet connectivity this weekend and you guys turned NR to a global warming discussion :)

    Watch out because I am coming back online on Monday and will probably do some moderation. The weekly links section will come out on Monday as well as the announcement of the Fuji X100 winner.

    Sorry for being offline – I have planned to have portable Internet, but things not always work as planned.

    Please keep it civilized here for the next 24 hours. Thanks!

    • Hhom Togan

      Remember our arrangement about the X-100 “wink, wink, wink” ;) you get it right?? “WINK, WINK, WINK”

      Oh crap…. I made it public :o… egh… hmm I´m Chase Jarvis!!!!!!

    • alvix

      ..mmhh..they are taking advantage on you…definitely !! :)

    • alvix

      mmh..they are taking advantage on you..definitely ! :)

    • BartyL

      I come to this site for rumours on upcoming Nikon cameras and lenses, and for what information I can dig out of the forums. I sure don’t come to this site to be lectured on the value of the scientific method by people who take their orders from an invisible being that supposedly lives in the sky.

      I think ALL the posts relating to the (overwhelmingly scientifically supported) AGW debate should be removed from this thread.

      • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

        You don’t believe in God. That’s ok. It seems a bit unwise to bash the opposing majority in order to win favor, but hey…

        The fact that (an admittedly somewhat silent) 97% of the world believes otherwise is largely irrelevant, as popular belief can be wrong at times. But please know that I do not “take orders from an invisible being that supposedly lives in the sky.” I was once an atheist, also sitting in the 2% category. I have since had an opportunity to know that God is real, just as real as the atoms which science has discovered and are yet unseen by the human eye.

  • Hhom Togan

    Chase is filming a movie about me, You see I´m an internet EXPERT, yes I have no real relevance out of the net, but here I´m like “Luke I´m your father”, so he´s filming this documentary about my life in the net and my real life with my 25 cats :-)
    1-Catsemire
    2-Bob Dole
    3- Britney “Maria”
    4- Twilight vampire cat
    5-Ozzy
    6-Sock
    7-Tie
    8-Pants
    9- Ms. Sparkles
    10- Mr. Colton
    11- Scratch-Master
    12- D3x
    13-Mr. Scaredy cat
    14-Mr. Brave cat
    15-Rocky
    16- Rock-i-ette
    17-Magnum
    18-Tango
    19- Mr. X
    20- Mrs. X
    21- Ceiling cat
    22- Sir Fluffy
    23- Nikkor 200mm f/2.0 AF-S
    24-Pentaprism
    25- my favorite: Captain Orpheous Bojangles the III, Commander of sea, sky and space.

    The net isn´t a serious place, stop arguing about stupid stuff.

  • The party crashers

    It is so funny how these responses clearly illustrate who I would and would not ever like to be friends with. Weirdos please shut up and never come back!….. and all the rest thank you for making the world such a happy and loving place. :)

    In the end we all think we are all entitled to our views but some of you need to do some soul searching….aka stop being such a cynical pain in the a**…you make me feel depressed and frustrated.

  • BaoKeWen

    Wow…. Just imagine how many nice pictures you all could have taken instead of writing the equivalent of a Harry Potter novel here…

    Meanwhile, let’s cut to the Chase… Where is he?
    And is there anyone more qualified/eligible to promote a D4?
    If so, who’s he/she and where?

    Meanwhile, Voldemort increases global warming everytime he takes a picture on his EOS 7D MarkIII…..

  • broxibear

    Sydney PMA 2011 Walkthrough video…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfy3SO2ILhA&feature=relmfu

  • Gabe

    Guys, 253 comment, seriously?

  • Jodiah Jacobs

    Funny, I read that NY Times article when it came out. When I was done, it seemed evident to me that the Spanish Govt did not regulate or specify the job well enough. They allowed low quality (crappy) solar panels to be put in and qualify for incentives. They should have stipulated a reasonable quotient of efficiency to qualify for the govt. sponsored program, much like our federal govt does for tax rebates on energy star windows (energy star alone will not get you a rebate, an efficiency target must be met).
    Governments can be run well or run crappy, we see evidence of that. My position is that we should take care to ensure that it is run to it’s potential, that it is not inherently lame. It’s a team. Could be the team has synergy and runs well, producing good programs that benefit society, or it could be the team is full of greedy good for nothing crooks.
    Addressing Global Warming is not going to be easy, it is the most difficult challenge to human race to date. Do we have the wherewithal to attack the problem before it devastates the planet? Can we avoid a good arse kicking? The science is real, what’s missing is political will.
    I don’t doubt that there are a bunch of ruthless filthy rich people that are manipulating the issues to their benefit. That sucks. They had no qualms bringing down the financial sector and by extension, Main Street. Imagine if they were regulated like they used to be! It never would have happened! And what purpose does having billions of dollars serve?? It makes me sick.
    We seem to be heading towards ten dollars a gallon for gas, eventually, that sucks too, that is not going to help the cause. The answer is not to deprive people but to find solutions (and this means taking on entrenched interests like big oil) that allow people to continue living prosperously.

    You’re not evil! (finally back to the mirrorless situation!). You’re FX!

    What’s next? There needs to be a concentrated will mandated to solve the crisis. If we are bombarded by the energy of the sun from above, and below the earth has a molten core and the moon swings the oceans around as tide, how hard can it be to figure a way to produce clean and abundant energy for the populous of the planet? We are surrounded by energy, it’s everywhere!
    NR Admin, my apologies, this is a passionate issue for me.
    Yes, I think it is MX, I like that. Chase is on a Mirrorless.

    • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

      @Jodiah Jacobs (and NR Admin): I too am passionate about this issue—those of us who are debating reasonably seem to feel that’s ok. Besides, it’s not like we’ve hijacked a “D800 Leaked Photos & Specs” thread or something. That would have been unacceptable. :)

      For me I think it comes down to this:

      First – Until this is absolutely settled science, it has no place in policy. Zero. If and when that day ever comes on this issue, it needs to be so clear, so undeniable, that every living being feels duty-bound to fix it. We are not even close to there yet.

      Second – Government regulation (even in the “best” government systems) leads to excess, waste, and inefficiency (recent example is the US car trade-in program, other examples: public schooling, energy production, DMV)

      Third – We have become addicted to regulation as a replacement for personal responsibility and action, judicious support of companies, and statesmanship.
      Government control vs. personal freedom is a zero-sum game. We’ve had the tyrannical control thing before—we’ve been trying to move away for centuries; let’s not reverse this trend.

      Fourth – It is a sad truth that power corrupts men in far too many men, so many in fact that not only is it the rule, but it seems to almost make invisible the exception. As James Madison said: “The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.” It is the duty of every citizen of Earth to watch closely those we elect to power, and to have the courage to kick them out and shun them if we must. We are shirking our duty to allow those in power to go unchecked, no matter how virtuous they seem.

      Fifth – Healthy debate is good. Even on a camera forum. If not here, then where? I only wish more would be willing to speak up on both sides so we can truly address the issues, instead of allowing the few “experts” dictate our collective path while we seek out soundbites in hopes that the aforementioned “experts” are correct.

      And lastly, please NR Admin—make your next post: “D800 Leaked Photos & Specs”

      • Distanted

        I would agree that government regulation is a poor substitute for having the personal conviction to always make the choice that’s in the best interests of everyone involved. However, there are clear cases of government regulations saving lives. Seatbelts, lifeboats, earthquake zoning are pretty good regulations in my book. To suggest corporations and major industries would, on their own, look for new ways of cutting profit margins to protect the public is quite frankly, laughable. I cannot say beyond any doubt that 6 billion people and millions of cars, planes and ships is affecting our temperatures, but the logic seems to be there. And, it seems the people attacking the concept of global warming the hardest are the conservatives, which generally is the side backed by big business (i.e. oil companies), so questioning the motivation of people who’s career is devoted to scientific study is kind of like the pot calling the tupperware black.

      • Jabs

        @Ron Adair.
        One does not have to agree or disagree on any subject, but one has to see how intelligent and observant a person is by their convictions and then, their actions.
        The problem today, seems to be that people do not think and often blindly follow the herd.
        Examples:
        1. I take away your freedoms to make you freer – duh!
        2. I kill you to bring ‘democracy’ to you and your land – *rolling eyes* – yeah!
        3. People seldom know the meanings of simple English words and often think that a Theory is indeed FACT – no! It often is a set of contrived ideas or ideals that are the fundamentals or the basics of a particular thought or idea that resides within that framework and ONLY within that theoretical framework does that even work as in something plausible to now claim exists.
        4. We humans have become immoral fools and self serving dolts who are manipulated by bigger goons and now with the Internet filled with ‘instant scholars and ‘so-called experts’ who can quote Wikipedia, we have substituted our own learning, opinions and BRAINS for gobblygook or crap masquerading as FACTS.
        5. Humans and greed are our worst enemies, as we manipulate and postulate non-existing things or ramp up simple things into irrational fears that often have no basis in reality whatsoever, but they become the basis for demonizing someone else who has what YOU desire but you fail to realize that it is God Who has Given all this to various human beings in different lands and thus, we often envy the good of others and now validate or ‘justify’ our destruction of each other not realizing that we are each other’s keepers and the brothers of all of humanity.
        If you kill one human being it is as though you killed all of humanity – FACT and not theory.
        Thanks for your courage to speak up here and great debate to all involved. We don’t have to agree with one another, but it sure is obvious that humanity is destroying itself and NOT Global warming – FACT.

        • http://AdairCreativeGroup.com Ron Adair

          Thank you Jabs, and everyone else who is willing to speak up in defense of what now seem classical principles/values. “Old fashioned” comes to mind.

          It seems that some folks today (as is evidenced in many of these ongoing debates) either have a view of man that he is evil, or that he is less valuable than inanimate objects. This view is sad, really, and is a consequence of many of history’s leaders—religious and secular alike—using demagoguery to maintain control. If we spent more time supporting people instead of ideas, the world would look quite a different place.

          This thread may be deleted, but I’m glad it has turned into a (mostly) valid debate, instead of a mindless mud-slinging contest like it so often does on the web.

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    Weirdest NR comments thread ever.

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    Weirdest/Longest thread ever?!

  • SNRatio

    I suggest that all comments not related to the actual rumor/observation be deleted. This is not a place for discussing topics like global warming, regardless of how well qualified a contributor might be in the actual area.

    I also wonder what discussions about Chase Jarvis’ person has to do with the actual subject matter.

  • AnoNemo

    NR Admin, can you do something about this thread because it is getting really ugly by the day.

  • http://nikonrumors.com/ [NR] admin

    I am back to the civilization where I have Internet access again and I am closing this thread because the comments went out of control.

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