Translation of the leaked Nikon D850 slides


Here is a quick translation of the leaked Nikon D850 slides:


Nikon FX DSLR has 45.75M pixels.  Around 9 fps* and more enhanced features.  Can capture still and sport photos with sharp images.
* When using MB-D18 Multi-Power Battery Pack (it should be a new one) plus battery EN-EL18a.


3.2" variangle 2.359M pixel touch LCD screen
- Richer touch functions than D5 & D500
- Could do quick cropping using "I" button during playback
Q1330 should mean D850?
2nd Row of the table:
Playback: Full touch screen (scroll, drag, status bar)
Menu: D5/D500: button operations; Q1330: Full touch screen
Liveview: touch AF, touch shutter (only D500); Q1330: touch menu, touch AF, touch shutter
Info: Q1330: button menu (?)


- 45.75M
- 9 fps * MB-D18 + EN-EN18a
- 8K timelapse
- 4K movie
- ISO 64-25600
- 3.2" 2.36M vari-angle touch screen
- 153 AF system
- 45M quiet shooting mode
- 0.75x OVF magnification
- 180,000 RGB sensor


OVF 0.75x is the largest magnification rate for all existing DSLR in history (OVF 0.75x is the largest magnification rate for all existing Nikon DSLR in history).


Using famous D5 153 AF system
- 130% frame coverage when compared with D810
- incorporated with AF engine
- center 1 point -4EV AF, all other points -3EV


Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry,  specimen and landscape


45M pixel gives you clear and sharp high definition image, could satisfy big outdoor advertisement which requires 8K resolution
- No low pass filter
- Standard ISO: 64-25600, boost: ISO: 32 to 108,400
- Using Eexpeed 5 (same as D5) processor, high ISO together with good noise reduction engine, could give you high quality of color reproduction
Pictures: demonstration of with and without low pass filter


45M quiet shooting mode, when releasing the shutter, there is no sound and no mechanical vibration (using live view for still image)
- Only using an electronic shutter
- Suitable for museum or opera that require quiet environment, and Astronomical photography, macro photography and architectural photography which are prone to minor mechanical shutter vibration, so that your image would be sharper
- Around 6 fps under this mode (AF/AE fixed)
- Suitable for sports photography which requires quiet environment, e.g. play golf when player is very concentrating and moving the golf clubs
- Quiet mode could be 30 fps with 8MP image (longest duration 3 seconds, DX mode, quality = normal, AF/AE fixed)


9 fps * (with MB-D18 + EN-EL18a) or 7 fps
- Could continuously shoot 51 frames 14 bit non-compressed raw photos at one time


Low light focus -3EV, greater possibility to take photo under dark situation (same as D5)
Using 180,000 RGB sensor same as D5, better face detection and precise auto adjustment using enhanced scene recognition system.


New Natural Light AWB enable you to have better color reproduction under natural light
- Set to Natural Light AWB, the camera would provide you more concise white balance
- Target for red leafs during autumn, sunset or sunrise, will have more saturated color when compared with [auto1] mode
- When shooting outdoor, no need to set white balance to shadow, beautiful images would be captured under sunny day or cloudy day


[Auto] according to the information received via scene recognition, adjust and enhance the image
New: enhance the red color under sunrise / sunset
Enhance the saturation of landscape photo
- Soften portrait photo


Using "spot area AF" to AF on very small area
- The size is 1/2 of "standard area AF"
- Suitable for shooting macro, focusing on a very small object

In the photo:

  • blue square: "standard area AF"
  • red square: "spot area AF"


- Illuminated button for shooting under dark situation (finally!)
- Raw L, M or S for your selection
- Enhanced Multiple exposure flexibilities
- 1:1 photo size (new)
- SD and XQD dual card slots (new)


Using wireless controlled flash, you could achieve effective lighting control outdoor
Support wireless transmitter WT-7.


For dynamic video functions.

Here is a video version of the translated slides:

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  • Really great job Peter

    • Ben Brayev

      and nikon

      • LuckingFabour

        And Photoshop.

        • Ben Brayev

          lol

          • LuckingFabour

            Be careful.
            To those with double-digit QI, that may appear like “abuse”.

            However did they win the war?

  • Mehdi R

    What a superb viewfinder:)

    • You don’t get 9fps with silent shutter, but you do have both options yes.

    • SteveWithAnS

      I saw a video clip of Trump speaking in the white house press room the other day and some jagoff was shooting him at like 12fps with a noisy shutter that sounded like a typewriter. I wish he had a silent shutter.

      • I’d rather here the shutter than that particular speaker …

        • SteveWithAnS

          Maybe the photographer is part of La Resistance and turned it to the loudest shutter setting he had to be a dick on purpose. Either way, being that unprofessional should get you banned from the press room.

          • Stefan Suchanec

            If being that unprofessional got you banned from the pressroom, Trump himself wouldn’t be allowed back in. Not that he’s man enough to address the press in-person regularly anyway

            • SteveWithAnS

              I thought you liberals were against traditional gender stereotypes and saying things like “being man enough”. Practice what you preach sir or Madame.

              Telling NK that nuking Guam would not be a good idea is somehow unprofessional?

            • Stefan Suchanec

              I’m not a liberal, you don’t know what I practice or preach. Just making the point that Trump is as unprofessional as anyone in that room. People on both sides of the aisle have made that point pretty regularly lately.

              I didn’t mention NK or Guam. Don’t put words in my mouth. And yes, he is a coward.

            • thundrrd

              You confused him because you kind of sounded like a lib. Maybe just leave politics out of a camera page and then … no confusion.

            • rrangel

              Actually, “man enough” to say and do what he means. The reason voters made him president. Unlike his overtly dishonest predecessor. Then again if that were not the case you malcontents wouldn’t be running your lying jibs.

            • Brent Rawlings

              Malcontents. Nicely done. Post of the day in my books. And I agree with you 100%.

          • vFunct

            All press photographers operate like that. No one invites press photographers and tells them to shoot in quiet mode for their shutters. That’s a good way to NOT have press cover your event.

            If you invite press to cover your event, that means you are OK with noisy shutters. Thanks.

            • SteveWithAnS

              I have watched television before and I have never heard a camera that loud or rapid before, so clearly he was doing something differently than the other photographers. His was the only camera going berserk, none of the other cameras were nearly that loud or holding their shutter down for that long. Are you a press photographer? Thanks.

            • vFunct

              Yah I cover press events, and you need to watch more press conferences.

              100% of them are that way. Everyone uses Nikon D4/D5’s & Canon 1dx’s.

              Maybe stop being a conservative and watch some real news instead?

            • SteveWithAnS

              What is real news in your opinion? I actually kind of like local CBS or WGN Chicago in the morning as it is actually news. Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC are really more political commentary/opinion than actually being news.

            • thundrrd

              – 1 vFunct dumb comment of the day.

            • Tor Gunnar Berland

              Probably a D4 on CH. It is possibly the loudest camera in existence!

            • thundrrd

              +1 vFunct, I have seen many press briefings for the current and past president where you could hear the shutter going off in more than one camera at rapid rates.

          • ITN

            Well it seems most of the photographers shoot like that at those events. If there are 20 cameras shooting and the microphone is right in the middle of the cameras then you get this rattle. Properly placing the microphones in front of the speakers would likely result in reasonable audio.

            • SteveWithAnS

              I like your explanation best so far rather than just telling me I’ve never watched the news before. Maybe one guy was a little closer to the microphone than usual or it was it a room with worse acoustics than normal.

      • stormwatch

        Was there anything useful that Trump said?

        • DemsR Grubbered

          Where’s hiLLIARy ???

          • stormwatch

            I bet that he screamed for another dose of help from Russian Hackers.

            • DemsR Grubbered

              Russia !! Russia !! Russia !!
              — screech the Grubbered LIEberal dementiacrats

            • rrangel

              John Podesta’s Gmail password was actually “password.” One of the supposed bright people running the Hillary show. He shouldn’t be allowed to walk a dog.

              Imran Awan, the Pakistani that was somehow working for Congressional Democrats, and who was taken into custody by the FBI while trying to run, actually had the password to Debbie Wasserman Shultz’s iPad. While she was DNC committee chairman during the time of the supposed “hacks.” Really an inside job that the incompetent Democrats are using for political purposes. These facts are not hard to find out from credible sources but here you are.

          • Aldo

            Hillary’s level of corruption es benign compared to what goes on in this administration.

            Go look at the evidence yourself. Everything that is out there that ‘exposes’ Hillary is nothing more than a liberal agenda. There is nothing surprising about it.

            I wish politicians were 100 percent honest, but we don’t live in a fairy tale world. As citizens we can only choose the better of the worst… and I’m afraid we failed to do that this time.

            • DemsR Grubbered

              Aldo tries to DEFLECT from the ClownToon FRAUDation.

        • SteveWithAnS

          I dk, I think he mentioned something about bathing in the tears of liberals. I’m glad you guys gotta make things about politics when I was only commenting on shutter noise.

          • stormwatch

            Actually, I was commenting on Trump’s noise, because no matter how rude, noisy or annoying shutter noise of any camera might be, it’s always more reasonable and better behaved than a trumptard while he try’s his best ……and this comes from no liberal. 🙂

            • SteveWithAnS

              Typically, in America if you are a registered Democrat and vote for the Democratic candidate, people consider you a liberal. If you do those things but fancy yourself a centrist or moderate, people just call you delusional.

              What you say above could be attributed to any politician…Sorry you guys lost and are taking it so hard. Glad you chose a winning camera system though.

            • stormwatch

              I’m very sorry but you’re just another lost soul in the American nightmare. I live in country where you do not have to give huge tips to modern slavery working for idiot owners of the restaurants who pay their workers 2 Dollars an hour and expect customers to pay wages for their workers, and both the service and food is way better than in the USA. Also, Women in my country have PAID Pregnant leave for the full duration and some extras you could only dream about. Imagine also this, everyone in this country is covered by Health Insurance, it’s not only for the upper middle class and rich people like in the USA. Also, young boy, mind you that we all have 6 weeks of PAID holidays, and many of us have 15 full Wages – yes 15, double in June for Holidays, and double in November for Christmas. After many years in business I can tell you that videographywise Panasonic is minimum two light years in front of the Nikon, if D850 comes just 30% close to standard Panasonic 4K division, I would consider one as a location research machine, just because of the size.

            • Aldo

              “American nightmare” … do you have to tell that to yourself every day to like your country? The USA is just fine and times like these only makes it stronger in the end.

            • stormwatch

              All that I can see, is that USA has been completely ruined and ridiculed in the past 6 months. You’re the biggest joke in the world nowadays.

            • Stevie Jay Elmm

              I live in the USA and yes it’s behind the times with modern ways compared to the rest of the successful countries of the world but most Americans are so conservative they won’t ever believe anything but what the news tells them. Sad actually. No modern or adapting for at least 70 percent of the country. To most Americans it’s still about guns, beer and football. Not a single evolution sperm passed the family tree yet. I also despise both democrats and republicans and feel both sides are a complete stuck in the past joke and I have no faith in our voting system or leaders whether it’s a Trump or Obama etc.

            • SteveWithAnS

              I imagine some Americans feel like they are less likely to get robbed of their photography equipment in town or killed by dangerous animals when hiking in remote places for nature photography when they are packing heat, but the joke is truly on them and their archaic ways. I guess for some Central Park is all the nature they need.

            • thundrrd

              Please shut up, you are only showing your ignorance by attempting to show you understanding anything about politics, or the country you life in.
              Now how about them crazy Mets… I mean, NIKON… wow, what a company.

            • Stevie Jay Elmm

              Nikon is good

            • SteveWithAnS

              If you are so proud of where you come from, why are you too embarrassed to mention which country you are from? Are you afraid someone might point out the low points of your country as you have done about America? If you are from England I do not envy you in the least. I do not consider blood sausages or fish and chips fine cuisine.

              I imagine Panasonic is way ahead in video, but this is a Nikon forum you mug and I imagine most people here care more about the quality of their photos than their videos.

            • thundrrd

              shut up.

            • stormwatch

              England? England is not a shithole as most of the USA is. England is normal, civilised and pretty well-of country.

            • thundrrd

              OH MY GOD … give it a rest already.

            • mirt

              Do you have army or you rely on US to defend you? Your prescriptions rely on US research paid by US citizen. Your PC was mostly invented by US scientists etc. You implicitly but substantially benefit from Pax Americana, and boasting like this brought Trump: people get tired with making this thankless world great, and decided to be more egocentric.

            • stormwatch

              You have first to thank Nikola Tesla, for having the electricity in order to write the stupid things. You know that guy Nikola Tesla? It’s the man your fake inventor Thomas Edison had stolen many ideas and patents from.

            • Aldo

              “and this comes from no liberal”

              God forbid you were. Imagine voting for Hillary??? that means she’d be in office right now. We much prefer doing what’s morally correct like not helping Stalin for example, even if it means Hitler wins the war.

            • thundrrd

              What does it matter who it comes from – lib or conservative – maybe other people on here would like to discuss camera’s and do not give a flying fuk about your politics.

        • animalsbybarry

          Never was, never will be

          A lot that’s harmful though

      • AlphaStatuz

        What exactly would you be concerned about missing in a Trump speech..?

        • Ray Moughalian

          Fake News!

        • animalsbybarry

          If we don’t pay enough attention to him or if we talk about the R word he will start a thermonuclear war just to distract us

        • Stefan Suchanec

          coherence.

      • Ray Moughalian

        Saw that too, what the hell are they thinking??? They are going to miss something? How annoying!
        Trump should have taken the camera away 😉

      • Amir

        I wonder why shooting Trump photos with that high shutter speed?Is this event a kind of war,sports,actions,dance,or fast moving event that needs that kind of high shutter speed? I took only two or three in one politics event for local news,in each scene, and viola!

        • animalsbybarry

          It’s sort of something between a circus clown and sanitarium

          There is plenty of action but no common sense or predictability

        • Ryan Kelly

          The photographer does not choose the photo used. If the photographer can catch a moment that looks like trump is rolling his eyes, or unimpressed, angry etc, it opens up more opportunity for publishers to use the image in a way that will entice the audience.

          • SteveWithAnS

            The dude shot 200 straight photos like a jag off. Just shoot 4k video with a high shutter speed and extract whatever face you want.

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            He can sell the worst and best versions to both sides of the isle!

      • Robert Krasser

        Actually when Trump is speaking a very loud shutter would be better.

        • Phil Koenig

          he should be drowned out by gunfire

          • thundrrd

            You just couldn’t help but show us your ignorance, could you.

    • What’s the frame rate without the battery grip? I like smaller and lighter cameras nowadays, that would be a good reason to buy this as a supplement to my D5.

      • JXVo

        7 fps

        • AnotherView

          That’s unfortunate…I’ve gotten away from using grips due to the cost and weight…but 7 FPS is a tad limited for my needs.

          • CERO

            Your options is a D500 or a D5 for 10+fps or 9fps for the D850 then.

  • Lihkin

    The Focus Stacking has me very intrigued. Looks like a solid product from Nikon.

    • Bill M

      I agree, this could revolutionize macro photography with a whole new artistic approach. I wonder if you can control the steps in order to keep every part of your subject in focus and still blur the background. Very curious to see how this stacks up with landscape photography, for instance, can you photograph at f/4 where your lens is the sharpest but still have everything in focus like you would at f/16 and so forth…

      • If you stack you won’t get just the subject in focus. Everything in that in-focus slice will be in focus, along with your subject.

        Note that you can already do this with after market tools, and for top quality that *might* still be the best option.

        • Semaphore

          The advertised feature is only to automatically move the focus point for you, it still says requires third party tools to actually merge.

          • Allan

            If needed, let’s hope Nikon speaks to third parties.

            • RogerB

              This capability is already widely available, even in Photoshop. Having the function under camera control is nice. I currently do this in a limited way with just the 55mm f/3.5 AIS Nikkor. It will be nice to control this in a more controlled manner.

          • paige4o4

            which is how it should be. it’s a very intensive process and a lot can go wrong (weird artifacts). looks like this is going to be a killer feature for macro/product.

            • I suspect it won’t give you raw files though. Just like in camera HDR or timelapse, you get a baked result that has limited editing potential. I would rather have a bunch of raw files I can edit and merge myself.

            • paige4o4

              Why? Of course it will give raw files. Makes no sense otherwise. And the slide says there is no in body compositing.

            • I hope so, otherwise it’s useless to most.

            • ITN

              It is not stacked in camera. You have to use third party software to get a focus stack. The camera just goes through a bunch of focus distances and captures a series of frames.

            • It must be so you can shoot raw.

          • Spy Black

            I know, lame, right? Unless the translation was off and the camera actually does have it, what’s the point of bragging about this when Panasonic and Olympus cameras have had in-camera focus stacking for some time now? If it requires third-party software, it totally lame.

        • Bill M

          I understand everything within that in-focus slice will be… in focus 🙂 But if you can control at what interval each focus slice will be in and then determine the range you should still have everything behind the subject out of focus right? This would be fantastic for wedding ring shots but would require some setup, I suppose it will depend on how fast you can setup the procedure as Nikon unfortunately has not had the most intuitive menu systems.

          But can the aftermarket tools control the camera settings to determine number of slices and range in camera?

          • Yes, everything behind the last (most deep) slide should be out of focus as it is OOF in every image you took.

            I’m not sure of the application for wedding shots. You can get this effect with a fast lens already. In most cases, focus stacking is not needed. Macro is different in that regard to to the extremely think focus plane.

      • Semaphore

        > I wonder if you can control the steps in order to keep every part of your subject in focus and still blur the background.

        It says it automatically moves from closest to infinity focus, so I imagine you’d just manually pick the range that puts your subject in focus when stacking.

        • Only one end of the range. That’s how it looks like. Would be more useful if we can choose both ends.

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            You can discard after.

            • TheInfinityPoint

              or turn off/on the camera again like how i shutoff the time lapse feature on my body.

      • EcoR1

        Olympus have used this method in their cameras for some time now. It’s a nice feature but their on-sensor-stabilization system is something that really helps here for tripod-free stacking.

      • JXVo

        The only issue with focus-stacking by advancing the focus ring is that if your lens is a focus-breather the magnification of the images will vary with focal distance. This could be an issue for deeply dimensional scenes when using affected lenses.

        For macro some purists prefer to use a macro stacking rail that moves the whole camera instead of the focus ring. However this is not workable for subjects longer than the stacking rail so it definitely wouldn’t work for landscapes.

        • Thom Hogan

          Yes, this is an issue we need to be aware of. Focus shift, too.

        • Cynog

          Using a stacking rail will also vary the size of the image, as one is moving the camera nearer or further away. In practice, I’ve not found this a problem, because the software can cope with this.

        • Silverdog

          it’s an easier correction if you don’t move the camera as perspective will remain the same. If you move the camera the perspective will change creating more problems

      • Thom Hogan

        Yes. The slides in question tell you that you can control steps in up to 10 increments, with up to 300 shots in the bracket sequence.

        • Jay Li

          Not 10 increments, it says 10 choices of focus depth selection.

    • spam

      Extremely useful feature if well implemented. I’ve used this on Olympus E-M1 and E-M1 II and it really speed up focus stacking procedure.

    • ninpou_kobanashi

      Is this like the Nikon answer to Lytro?

      Set Tripod.
      Turn lens to min focus distance!
      Boom!

      • paige4o4

        No. Lytro can be used for moving subjects. Focus stacking is still life only.

        • ninpou_kobanashi

          You take life too seriously 😉

          • silmasan

            🙂 But seriously I’m thinking of using it for “slow portraits”, with camera on tripod, focus on whatever part of the subject is closest, at f/1.4 ~ f/2 … (though what I had in mind was actually automated aperture bracketing).

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              Psst. Crappy photo, but this is handheld DOF stitched.
              Nothing you would notice but her hand is in front of her, yet somehow it’s in focus (^_^).

              https://www.instagram.com/p/BWl7M5_BYyN/?hl=en

            • silmasan

              That’s a good one actually! Great example. 🙂

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              Danke!

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              Aperture bracketing is a feature that I have always wanted. I’m a bokeh (insert PC word for floozie), and I tend to always be a little too open.

    • Spy Black

      The camera doesn’t have built-in focus stacking, I don’t know why Nikon is bragging about the focus feature, as it’s pretty lame if it can’t do it in-camera. Certain Olympus and Panasonic M4/3 have had in-camera focus stacking for quite a while now. Essentially useless feature in the D850.

      • ninpou_kobanashi

        I think most people using this feature would want to process out of camera.

        Did you see pro time lapser make his request to Nikon recently? It’s the same idea. Out of camera allows for much better tools and options. The camera just helps you automate the capturing of data.

  • Gary Haigh

    No EVF then means no purchase by me 🙁

    • EVF was never planned or expected for this camera.

      • Gary Haigh

        Smart being clever after the fact, nobody knew, or do you work for Nikon.

        • Semaphore

          There was literally zero evidence that there would be EVF. It was only ever idle speculation.

          • Correct. I would not even call it a speculation, but I don’t want to open that topic again today.

        • I have been reporting the D850 specs for months now and they all turned out to be correct, I also specifically confirmed on multiple occasions that the there will not be an EVF or anything similar
          Help yourself with my previous D850 posts for more info:

          https://nikonrumors.com/category/nikon-d850/

          • Gary Haigh

            Well aren’t you all a clever bunch, give yourselves a huge smug pat on the back

            • Did you come to troll here today? Because I can fix that very quickly.

            • Gary Haigh

              Don’t be a baby, I have commented here many times before, if you don’t like the comments then don’t be so patronising or is your name Kim Yong Un and you simply delete what you don’t care for?

            • Aditya Gupta

              What a d¡ck…..

            • Gary Haigh

              Childish comment?

            • CERO

              Wow dude, you’re a giant douchebag.

            • Gary Haigh

              Another childish comment

            • Someone

              another utterly pointless comment from someone who thinks having an EVF is better than OVF.
              *double facepalm*

            • Gary Haigh

              I Never said it was better at all and you should retract your comment, where did I say it was Better?
              I had hoped for switchable OVF/EVF though as focus peeking would be very useful
              “Triple face palm”

            • Someone

              When you say ‘no evf means no purchase’ you are indeed saying that you would rather have evf which neans you prefer evf which means to you, evf is better. Nowhere in your comment you said that you had hoped for switchable ovf/evf.
              You seem to like to play with words and making pointless arguments.
              I assume you are a very happy person with many friends.
              🙂

            • Stefan Suchanec

              other people are calling names, yet you’re the one managing to make yourself look like a jerk. Impressive.

            • If you have visit the site often and “commented here many times” you should know that the EVF rumour was debunked by Peter almost as soon as it started spreading.

            • Gary Haigh

              Read it a while ago, also read other reports suggesting it did have EVF that was switchable with OVF. YOU like everybody else did NOT know what it had and didn’t have, it was best guess scenario

            • I don’t guess here. You must be mistaken with another website.

            • Gary Haigh

              Debunked yes, but he is not Derren Brown and it was simply a best guess, he like everybody else DID NOT know the true specs until now.

            • Peter has sources close to Nikon that have provided credible information in the past. The EVF rumour was mostly started by one Angry guy on Youtube who makes videos in his mom’s basement. He saw a blurry leaked photo with a button and some screw holes and proclaimed to the world “the only explanation is an EVF/OVF hybrid solution”. That was spread by others, sorry you got caught up by the tabloid hysteria.

            • I actually don’t have a Nikon source, my dog tells me all the specs… he is very good at predicting 🙂

            • Gary Haigh

              Never a truer word spoken in jest!

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              Protecting your sauce I see (^_^)

            • I like my sauce 🙂

            • Gary Haigh

              I just love the way you people get so hot under the collar, Blurry photo, tabloid Hysteria. There are many people who have sources, as you say, “Close to Nikon” Firstly I’d like to know how close and who they are. I have sources that I could say are close to Nikon……………in reality, they are not that close at all but its easy to say that they are. Its a bit like saying Elvis Presley was a good friend when you only met him once!
              I read some credible (NOT TABLOID) explanations for the rather large nose on the D850 from other sources, also close to Nikon (or not) and as such I was unsure if the camera did indeed have EVF or not. My statement stands that sources or no sources EVERYBODY worked on best guess.

            • Sure, I will give you the social security numbers of all of my sources, coming right away – do you want also the names of their children and dogs?

            • Gary Haigh

              Patronising once again Peter, how sad!

            • Daniel Vilanova

              Peter.. Stop feeding this child unless is yours :p

            • yes I agree, I stopped

            • Credibility of sources becomes apparent once the facts are released. We don’t have an official release from Nikon yet, but it’s sure looking like any “sources” claiming an EVF are useless. Peter reported no EVF and those are the sources I want to hear from again in the future.

            • Gary Haigh

              I agree with that comment completely, my argument was simply that some people are very knowledgeable after the event.

            • Except he posted that it would have an OVF only well before this news came out. It seems like you can’t connect the dots.

            • Gary Haigh

              Best guess turned out to be correct, he didn’t know at all.

            • I asked you to stop this discussion – you are free to talk about the D850 but not about who reported what and when. Last warning.

            • Gary Haigh

              Are you talking to just me, or those who are still commenting. You can’t expect me not to respond.
              I suggest if that’s the case then you delete the entire thread, or are you happy with people throwing in negative comments just as long as I don’t reply?

            • Yes, talking only to you since you started this discussion – let it go just like I did. Let’s talk about the D850 – this is what this post is about.

            • Hahahaha. Angry guy…mom’s basement. So true.

            • Gary Haigh

              I have actually read all of these reports Peter, I also read other very credible reports that were just as worthy and suggested it did have EVF and was switchable.

            • You call those “credible reports”? I call them clickbait BS.

            • Gary Haigh

              I’m really sorry Peter, I didn’t know that you were the Nikon GOD!

            • Ok, I am done with this discussion, please stay on topic – if you want to say something about the D850, go ahead.

            • “Just as worthy”? Only if it actually ends up having an EVF. Otherwise, pure bullshit.

            • Gary Haigh

              And had it been the other way around then Peter would have the bullshit merchant, easy to be clever after the fact.

            • Of course I knew the specs – read my other comment or simple go back to the old D850 posts. I am not sure why is this so difficult to comprehend.

            • It’s difficult because he made a dumb comment and will defend it to the end. Move on Peter, facts don’t matter, you can’t convince people like this. He is probably a flat earther too.

            • Gary Haigh

              Mike, my comment was not dumb. It has no EVF so I will stick with my D5, D500 and D800 as it doesn’t offer me anything that I don’t really already have. whats dumb about that, I call it being practical, but, you didn’t know what camera gear I had so I will forgive you. I bet Peter knew I had all this gear as he knows everything!

            • ITN

              High resolution images that are consistently in focus are not useful? Being able to shoot at high fps with plenty of freedom to adjust framing in post processing is not useful?

            • That’s what I said – I am done with that conversation.

            • A. F.O.

              I miss TIM!
              Down with this Gary caracter.
              🙂
              well done Peter!

            • El Aura

              Sure, everything reported before an official release is nothing but guesses. There never are any leaks. There never are people breaking NDAs. There are never people putting two and two together and infer things from separate bits of information. [/sarcasm]

              You are just a bad looser. You ‘shoot’ the messenger (technically, belittle) because you don’t like the message (no EVF on the D850). This nihilistic approach of claiming that all rumours are just guesses just flies in the face that is simply impossible to achieve such a track record (close to 100%) with pure guesses.

              You are just miffed that your ‘guess’ (or rather wishful thinking) turned out to be wrong. And you project your (baseless) speculation to be the modus operandi of others as well.

            • Gary Haigh

              I disagree, go to my very first comment, it reads that I will not be buying a D850 as it has no EVF.
              Nothing about being a bad loser but then I get a tirade of smug remarks from jokers who were as wise as I was. Its easy to be a clever dick after the fact. If you don’t want EVF then that’s fine, go buy the D850. I want EVF and as such I will not be buying it. That was ALL I said.

            • thundrrd

              Gary, I am writing this because I think you are owed an
              apology from people calling you a ‘dick’ or ‘douchebag’ because they didn’t
              like your take on things, but especially I think Peter owes you one for trying
              to intimidate you and what you can say when he threatened to, I assume, remove
              you from this sight.

              Gary, I saw your comment where you will not buy the D850
              because it doesn’t have an EVF and actually yours was not the first comment I’ve
              seen saying this, so I just thought OK, I can understand why you feel that way,
              but you were just giving a comment. You don’t want to buy the D850 because it doesn’t
              have an EVF and then my god, but Peter could not have that without you first
              knowing that Peter never reported it would have an EVF. Peter, who cannot stand
              for someone to not know he had already said there what we can expect, just
              could not have you saying such a thing because he already said that such and
              such would not be in the camera … he just had to let you know.

              It could have just been another post from someone saying why they are not
              buying the camera, but then I watched as you baited him with your comments and
              watched how Peter couldn’t take it. He said, OK we’ll stop commenting on this,
              but you kept commenting to him and Peter kept saying, OK, I’ve stopped and you
              continued to comment, but finally your comment hit him the wrong way and saying
              something he didn’t like so of course he hadn’t really quite. You got to him
              and again he posted saying something like let me make it easy and posting a
              bunch of links.

              Gary, once you told Peter he doesn’t know everything, how fast did he start
              sending you all his post. When he could have just dropped it and went on, it was
              Peter that really kept the thing going, well him and the minions of the site
              calling you dick and douchebag.

              Now while I disagree and think Peter does a good job of
              getting information to his sight and creditable information at that, I’ve seen
              it over and over where he hates being questioned and will even attack other
              sights he disagrees with, but I do not think it is fair for Peter to threaten
              to drop you from this sight just because you say you disagree and maybe even do
              it in a way that is a bit disrespectful. If Peter didn’t like your comments, all
              he had to do was stop feeding you his own comments and in fact he was kind of himself
              egging you on.

              I went back and reread all the comments and yes, I’ll agree you were a little
              harsh to him at times, but you didn’t deserve to be called ‘dick’ or
              ‘douchebag,’ nor is it fair that you cannot reply with a comment without the
              admin getting his feelings so bent out of shape he says, “Oh you must be a
              Troll, but I can fix that real quick…” Hell, this sight is full of a lot of
              Trolls, but a lot of them KISS Peters behind and you weren’t doing that and
              man, that is just not done here.

              Still, other than questioning Peter’s validity and saying
              he was just making guesses about what would be on the D850, you didn’t call
              anyone here a dick, or a douchebag and if they didn’t want to see your
              comments, they could have stopped long before they did.

            • Gary Haigh

              Thanks for the input.
              If there is one thing I can’t abide it’s rude, arrogant, loose lipped morons whone only response to a simple comment is to get all hot under the collar.
              I simply said that I would not be buying a D850 and that still stands.
              My issue is not that the camera does not have EVF, in fact, I had no issue when I first commented.
              My issue now though is the rudeness and ridicule from certain people on this site.
              I’m not a dick or a deuchbag and to be called one is the usual pathetic answer from people who don’t really have an answer.
              Insults are easy when you have nothing interesting to say.
              Peter is, like it or lump it, a dictator and the only reason he didn’t remove me was because he’d have looked a little shallow after my comments had he done so.
              He will after reading this probably remove me but that’s OK because I don’t want to be here any longer.
              This site pays no attention to common courtessy and good manners, in fact the administration team seem to advocate the opposite.
              We can all be rude, it’s not difficult.
              As an example, to the guy who called me a “di*k” I simply reply, ” I bet his mouth bleeds every 28 days!
              Best regards.
              Gary.

            • I clearly asked him multiple times to end this discussion. Gary kept coming and continuing to troll. You probably did not see all of his comments because I delete a few. Today he came again and continue this topic. As a result he is now banned from this site. I should have done this earlier. He was clearly trolling and looking for a confrontation for no apparent reason. This type of behavior was never acceptable here on NikonRumors.

            • Gary Haigh

              Debunked but not disproved.

            • Give it a month and it will be disproved as well.

        • vFunct

          If it had EVF, then that means no purchase from me.

          EVF are for people that hate photography.

          • Rather for people who consider themselves artists and are averse to learning technical part of photography.

      • ninpou_kobanashi

        Did they explain the hump/switch yet? Lol.

    • Someone

      *facepalm*

    • Marco

      I wonder how I will manage to sleep tonight…

    • James Titanium-Chef
    • BlackRipleyDog

      Can I have your place in line?

      • Gary Haigh

        Yep

    • Iqlusion

      Sweet! One more for me.

    • I understand the point of being an user that wants EVF.

      But surely there are a lot that want OVF.

      • Semaphore

        I would like a switchable hybrid tbh, but until then OVF + LiveView is good enough for me.

        • Gary Haigh

          And I also would like this.

    • Shutterbug

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Some of us like to have a usable viewfinder in the dark or high contrast situations and without lag. It was never expected nor rumored (credibly). Wait for their mirrorless in 2018.

      • Gary Haigh

        No the door missed me and slammed in your face

        • Wildness

          That was nothing more than wishful thinking from those that saw two screw holes as a sensor system.

        • Shutterbug

          Haha I wouldn’t be anywhere near the door, this camera looks phenomenal. I have zero interest in EVFs until their major issues are resolved. There was never even an hint of an EVF. A couple joke websites ran with it for some quick traffic and that was it.

          • Gary Haigh

            People had zero interest in digital 20 years back, too clumsy not as good as 35mm, I could go on and on……..EVF will arrive and it will be welcomed just as digital has now become the norm.

      • Reggie

        Uh….a modern EVF is better in the dark than an optical one which, you know, requires light.

        • Shutterbug

          Maybe you have never used an EVF in low light – it is an unusable blob of color noise, even worse in high contrast scenarios where it is literally impossible to see. Camera auto-focus fails before OVFs lose their usefulness unless you have a problem with your eyes.

          • Reggie

            I have, both older ones, which work as you describe and newer ones, which do not. The E-M1 mkII, which I rented, and my wife’s GX8 allow me to see what the heck is going on in situations where my optical finders just give me pure darkness.

            • Gary Haigh

              Yay……nice comment.

            • Yeah, older EVFs were bad in low light but I can see with newer ones as good if not better than with OVFs.

    • Thank god no EVF! Now I can buy one 🙂

    • Semaphore

      You could glue some rubber around the LCD screen to make an extra huge EVF.

      • Gary Haigh

        Sooo funny I forgot to laugh!

    • Michael Jin

      100+ years of people taking photos and nailing their exposure without EVF and all of a sudden a whole segment of photographers freaks out about the absence of something that we’ve all done just fine without—something that is, in truth, a double edged sword (WYSIWYG vs. battery drain, possible lag, etc.).

      I get the benefits of focus peaking with manual lenses, but given the latitude of modern day RAW files along with largely ISO-invariant sensors, why is EVF such a deal breaker for people today? Did everyone suddenly forget how to use the camera’s metering capabilities?

      Maybe I just have a distorted view of things, but it seems to me like anyone with enough understanding of photography to shoot in manual mode (where I believe the WYSIWYG nature of EVF is most beneficial) is probably already trained to properly meter scenes as second nature whereas for people who are shooting in automatic modes, it’s not going to make much of a difference either way. So what gives with the massive demand for EVF?

      Not meant as a judgment, but rather genuine curiosity based on my observations. I do believe that EVF and mirrorless cameras are definitely the inevitable future (for better or worse, I’m sure people will endlessly argue), but EVF just seems like an odd place to draw a line in the sand outside of specific use cases such as focus peaking with manual lenses, which I’ve mentioned above where it does, in fact, give a huge benefit. If we were talking about a fully mirrorless camera with all the benefits that such a system offers (silent shooting, ability to adapt all sorts of lenses, smaller form factor, etc.), I think I would understand a bit more, but why would the lack of EVF in an otherwise traditional DSLR a deal breaker for you? Or is it a deal breaker because you were hoping for the D850 to be a mirrorless camera?

      • There have been many advancements, and wanting something new isn’t a bad thing. I for one don’t want an EVF until they get even better, but one day I’ll want one.

        If we didn’t push for advancements we would still be shooting crappy black and white view cameras and blowing up flash pans of powder for fill light.

        • Michael Jin

          This is definitely true. I personally see many desirable aspects of mirrorless cameras in general. I would love to be able to take photos silently without shutter blackout and given the fact that I like to use manual lenses from time to time, I love the idea of focus peaking.

          The only thing that’s held me back so far is that I feel that it still needs a generation or two for me until the technology works out the kinks to where I want it to be. Another one of my main issues is simply the fact that I personally don’t like the small form factor—although I do understand why others appreciate it. Every use case differs, of course, and we all have our preferences.

          I get the idea of putting pressure on companies to implement new technology, but this specific technology (a hybrid viewfinder) in an otherwise traditional DSLR camera seems a bit pointless in the sense that it would drive up the cost with few actual scenarios where it would be truly beneficial to the user base that purchases DSLR cameras.

          I am fully on board with pushing Nikon to get with the times and release a competitive mirrorless system which would have EVF, but I suppose I just don’t see the point in forcing it onto a camera like the D850 just for the sake of having it on there. Granted, I am entirely open to the possibility that there are use cases that I am blind to, but it seems to me that in general, people who want EVF tend to just be people who are into mirrorless cameras and people who are into mirrorless cameras have largely already switched to mirrorless cameras while people who are sticking to their DSLR’s are comfortable with using an OVF already (and may even prefer them as some other comments here have suggested).

          I think Nikon likely determined that the audience for the D850 as a traditional DSLR is not exactly the type for whom the addition of an EVF or hybrid viewfinder was going to be a significant factor in their purchase decision and I would wager that they are probably correct.

        • I would like to have hybrid VF. Much more useful.

          • Andrew

            When the price of the D850 replacement goes up I know who to blame 😉

            • Depends upon what others would bring out in the meantime.

            • Andrew

              So true, but at some point, Nikon would have to cover its costs. But one way of doing it is to introduce the product at a high price and then six months later, lower the price. There are always those that are willing to pay a ransom for new products. The first adopters 😉

            • That is true. Until now I have been an early adopter but from this camera onwards it looks like I will have to wait a bit to buy. If the price is high,that is. I don’t mind being a guinea pig.

      • Reggie

        That is a weird sentiment. People also went 100 years taking pictures without digital sensors, or screens, or extremely high ISO, or high framerates, or or or. By your logic, we might as well stop advancing. I don’t need an EVF, but this other person really wants one. What makes your preferences right and his wrong?

        • Gary Haigh

          Thank you.

        • Michael Jin

          It’s not that my preferences are right and his are wrong. I’m simply pointing out that he implied that this particular technology (or lack thereof) was the deal breaker for him to which I mused about why that was the line in the sand.

          New technology is great, but it’s great when there are meaningful scenarios in which it improves your user experience. New technology isn’t great just because it’s new technology.

          In the case of EVF, the two major arguments I tend to see are the benefit of seeing your exposure exactly as it will be taken and the benefits of focus peaking. (I’m ignoring all of the arguments for mirrorless cameras in general such as plethora of adapters, silent shooting, small form factor, etc. because those would not have applied to a D850 with a hybrid viewfinder.) I’m merely speaking of EVF specifically.

          I agreed with the benefit of EVF in using manual lenses. My curiosity was only directed to the benefit of WYSIWYG exposure. When you take it at face value, it’s wonderful technology with great usefulness. When you apply it to the population of DSLR users who have, for years, been working fine without it, however, one begins to wonder about how beneficial this technology actually is for that population.

          For a person using any automatic or semi-automatic mode, neither is likely to make a difference because this user is already putting themselves in a situation where the camera is making exposure decisions for them. The primary benefit would be to the person taking manual control of their camera, which would likely mean that the photographer already has a degree of training in getting the exposure that they want. I guess my question is if you can already meter and get your exposure without EVF, why would you care all that much whether it’s there or not?

          Also, we’re really only talking about natural light photographers as well since EVF will not give you the WYSIWYG benefits as soons as flash enters the equation.

          So yes, while technology is great and it’s a great thing that it continues to march forward, I believe that when we make purchasing decisions, we need to also consider how this technology meaningfully benefits us. So all other things equal, while I would rather have an EVF than not, I personally don’t see it as such a huge difference in the user experience in a camera such as this—certainly not enough to be the deal breaker given all of the other features of the camera.

          My post was merely an effort to understand what the use case scenario is where this does become a deal breaker and quite frankly, it could simply be a matter of personal preference, which there’s nothing wrong with either. I’m not trying to start an argument, but I do think it’s worth discussing these things rather than senselessly spewing vitriol at each other.

        • Andrew

          Actually you are misrepresenting Michael Jin’s comments. He said that he can understand why someone might want an EVF but he also said that it is an issue of use case and does not see that as a general need. So he does know that it is a matter of preference.

          He is also quite objective as he said “Granted, I am entirely open to the possibility that there are use cases that I am blind to…”, so what more do you want him to say?

        • ITN

          Adding the EVF (to create a hybrid VF) would reduce the quality of the OVF image. The prism is normally covered by metal and black paint coatings. If you want a hybrid VF you’d need to remove the paint and coating for a section of the prism so only a part of the light entering the prism from the focusing screen would then reach the eye and outside light could potentially into the prism. If the EVF could be implemented without a compromise to the OVF, everyone would be doing it.

      • Klaus Schleicher

        Hi Michael,

        i can only write for my own experience. Yes, an EVF would make my hobby easier, but the absence of it is no dealbraker for me.

        Beside the focus peaking you mentioned, i like the capability of composing a landscape in the dark. (Yes, i can do it with the LCD and raising the exposure compensation to +4-5) but from my (short) experience with an Olympus OM-D 1 Mark II i really like it because it is so much “naturel” for me. Esp. since I’m getting older and with every year the world seems a tiny little bit dimmer 😉

        I think the overall package of this D850 sounds very promising and i will buy one in the first half of next year (ok, to be honest: I’m sure for 75%), but i hope Nikon will bring a comparable mirrorless too.

        Only my 2cents

        Klaus

        • Gary Haigh

          Thank you also

      • Gary Haigh

        This is like the conversation from 35mm to digital, lots of moaners who all now love the changes.

        • Michael Jin

          A lot of truth here. With every change in technology there are people who love it and people who hate it.

          I think a lot of it comes down to personal pride in the end and the desire for people to defend their purchasing decisions or the systems that they find themselves invested in. In the film community, you have large format vs. medium format vs. 35mm. Between the film and digital communities, you have film vs. digital. Even within digital, you have FF vs. crop vs. M43. And now we’re having mirrors vs. no mirrors. That’s not even counting all of the brand vs. brand nonsense in between and across the board.

          In the end, people need to make purchasing decisions that are the best for them to pursue their craft in the manner than they envision and are comfortable with. If that means an EVF, then so be it. If it’s an OVF, then so be it.

          Hell, I recently had an argument with a college photography professor that flat out told me that “digital images aren’t beautiful” when I asked him why we were required to take film photography classes before taking digital photography classes. If you browse film forums even today, you’ll find plenty of discussion of how film is supposedly superior to digital photography.

          And of course all of it is just tribalism at its worst. Anyway, I did gain a bit more insight from all this and it was certainly nice to read some civil posts on a comment section.

          • Gary Haigh

            Thank you.

      • EnPassant

        I can’t tell why something is a deal breaker to someone.
        But D850 has new functionality that can be used only in live view mode, like silent electronic shutter.
        Which means the OVF is not usable.

        As holding the camera with arms stretched to be able to see the LCD, if anything can be seen on it in sunlight, is not an option. A hood over the LCD could fix the view problem, but is a big and clumsy solution and not ergonomic.
        A built-in or optional external EVF would be much better and more practical solution.

        • Michael Jin

          Hmm.. I must admit that I overlooked this one. I can definitely see how EVF would have made a lot of sense if they were planning to implement those particular features.

          Sometimes I would like to be a fly on the wall at these meetings because it does feel a lot like this was intended to be a camera that bridged DSLR and mirrorless technologies and perhaps a hybrid viewfinder was planned at some early stage and was nixed during development.

          • Gary Haigh

            EVF will arrive, I had hoped the D850 was to be the first for Nikon.

        • “A built-in or optional external EVF would be much better and more practical solution.”
          That gives me hopes for the bump on pentaprism.

          • Michael Jin

            As long as it doesn’t brick our cameras like Leica’s… ^^;;

      • Absolutely agree with all your points. I used to leave a shoot with 30 rolls of film without having seen a single frame. Wasn’t a problem most of the time. Even now I may shoot many frames without looking at any of them but I do know when it would be worth checking.

    • Wildness

      That seems a little short sighted… with all this camera will do, you won’t buy it because it doesn’t have an EVF? Are you a Cult of Sony troll?

      • Gary Haigh

        No, I own a Nikon D5 D500 D800 F90 D300 D200 Nikon 600mm f/4 Nikon 200-500 f/5.6……..shall I continue?

        • Daniel Vilanova

          Oh my.. you must be related to a very angry guy who owns EVERYTHING from Nikon. The line of thought sure follows.

          • Gary Haigh

            No that’s about it apart from my smaller lenses. The point is I’m not a Sony man as the previous post was suggesting,

        • It will clearly be better than your D800. Why not replace it? I’m going to but I will also look seriously at what Nikon offers in mirrorless. I do have some Sony but I’d love to dump it and replace it with better Nikon gear (I’m hoping).

    • HotDuckZ

      Try Zacuto, so great!!

    • tornwald

      EVF’s are shit. However, a good OVF is very hard to find in modern camera’s. I hope this one is better then on the D800e, which I sold because of the crappy viewfinder.

      • JXVo

        Must admit, although larger, the D800 vf is a good stop or more dimmer than the older one in my D300. I tested this with the same lens mounted on both cameras

    • Dave Allen

      And no OVF would have meant no purchase by me, I can’t stand EVFs…

    • Why would you expect EVF? And [still] having an optical viewfinder is not like a deal breaker

  • sperdynamite

    1:1 mode? Come on portrait/wedding people need 4:3 format. It’s so stupid that I can’t crop in camera.

    • This is for Instagram 🙂

      • Someone

        $3000 Instagram machine!

        • Yes 🙂 Some are hiring photographers now to do their Instagram pictures – this is the time we are living in…

        • BG

          $3000? You wish.

        • Shutterbug

          A) It will be more than $3000

          B) virtually every celebrity and online personality has a professional photographer handle their Instagram.

        • There was a much more expensive instagram machine back then. Hasalblad. And guess what, there even wasn’t instagram back then.

        • ninpou_kobanashi

          I confess, most of my photos go there now 😉

      • Kob12

        For that you also need perfect on-camera communication solutions…

      • There was no instagram in the good old hasalblad golden days.

    • PW

      Is 5:4 not useable?

      Personally I hope they kept the 5:4 ratio, with viewfinder greyed out (and 1:1 functioning in same manner). But I guess this is a detail that doesn’t leak, so I’ll have to wait for final specs/review.

      BTW: Thanks for all the updates Peter!

      • sperdynamite

        Agree. 5:4 is just not the same. Maybe some people prefer it but I personally find 3:2 way too long for a portrait, and 5:4 a bit too squared off. 3:4 seems to be the sweet spot for my albums.

  • The specs look great, but I hope DR, IQ, and Color SNR are all improved at base ISO.
    High FPS is nice, but we have a D5/D500 for that. With several D8XX models in studio, the afore mentioned would have to be improved to justify an upgrade.

    • D5 has a paltry pixel count, bring on this monster 🙂

      I’m sure there will be small improvements in DR/IQ, don’t expect a big jump over the already awesome D810 though.

    • Vocko

      7FPS isn’t that high of a number. D700 has 6, D750 has 6.5FPS, so it’s pretty basic, but it’s nice to know that you can “boost” it with a grip if you need a bit more ooomph.

      • Bob Thane

        Pretty impressive for this MP count though. Canon’s 5DIV has 7 fps (with no ability to up that with a grip), and it only has 30MP. Nikon’s managed to have 50% more megapixels, with the same or better fps – not insane, but very impressive.

    • Jeffry De Meyer

      I’m happy they kept iso64 as base.

    • Thom Hogan

      My sources are mixed on that. I’d bet on IQ improvements, but they might not be the numbers-related ones you’re looking for.

      • Thom, IYO, could Nikons 70-180 micro keep up with ( perform decent ) on this new camera ?

        • Thom Hogan

          Can’t say at the moment.

          • Any word on connectivity, USB3 or C, ethernet, etc…

            • Thom Hogan

              Again, I’m trying not to talk about things that haven’t been authoritatively leaked elsewhere at the moment.

              But since the D850 supports the WT-7, you are aware that that ugly little add-on has Ethernet in it, right?

            • Thom Hogan

              The use of the WT-7 means that it’s USB 3. And the WT-7 supplies the Ethernet.

    • Jim Kiefer

      Agree with you, Matt. All the improvements sound great, but if they come at a cost of the things you mentioned, I would be hesitant. If they are same or better – i’m in 100%

  • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

    This is a beast!

  • Wow! This camera is going to be sweet. I like the focus adjusting system.

  • NikonFanboy

    wow great specs..Thanks for breaking it down Admin….

    • very welcome, I will have another post later today with a list of all the specs

      • NikonFanboy

        thanks…looking forward for it…

  • Frank O’brien

    Pss… incredible, now try to tell me that this camera worth 4000€. Just a D810 pumped up. No game changer. Great Job Nikon As I always said and still say they never did a only single damn right choice in the Market. EVF/HVF still say THAT would have been a game changer. I don’t see nothing here that EXCEED my EXCPECTATIONS. Yeah, more MP, more Frame rate, 4K, AF points what’s new? always the same upgrades

    • The wonderful thing is, you dont have to buy it.

      • Frank O’brien

        ahahahah Perfectly Right, and I never said I want to have one actually.

    • SeeTheN

      You’ve realized once that there are photographers out there who take better photographs with a 20 year old camera, then you do with your brand new 2017 camera?

      • Frank O’brien

        Right, I am still sure that people who know how to use camera will take better pictures with a DX than 90% of people who will buy the D850. I still believe that the most important things are who stay in front of the camera and who stay back.

  • Shutterbug

    51 “non-compressed” buffer is that right? Or do you mean lossless compressed? There is a huge difference there.

    • Young

      51 UNCOMPRESSED RAW files.

      • Shutterbug

        I see that – but is it a translation technicality, or does that mean the buffer is more like 100 frames the way most people shoot? I think there’s a good chance there is a translation error there because Nikon typically rates their buffer in lossless compressed RAW as there is no reason to ever use uncompressed.

        • Young

          No, its not a translation error. As a Chinese, a native speaker of Chinese, I can confirm to you that the original Chinese texts indeed mean ” 51 14-bit uncompressed RAW files”.

    • JXVo

      D810 has a buffer of 28 shots for 14bit 36Mp lossless compressed images and 23 shots for 14bit uncompressed.

      So this is a big upgrade either way. In spite of the higher frame rate you can still shoot for longer.

  • neonspark

    I’m interested in the 4K implementation. Hopefully takes a cue form sony and delivers using a full sensor readout without line skip. That would be a huge leap but it is exactly what nikon needs to get back into the video game. BS like crops and line skipping or pixel binning (basically what others are doing) will set them last, yet again.

    The market is just waiting for a company to disrupt yet again and deliver 4K video in full frame without line skip in a DSLR. Sony pushes the market forward with mirrorless but I’m surprised canon hasn’t done this (they will) yet.

    • Agreed, but with all of this information (which is amazing stuff), it sounds like video is going to be an afterthought, again. Even if there is full frame 4k, some of the other software tools needed for it to really be used for video, aren’t going to be there.

      • Kob12

        Correct. No info on audio quality for those takes without an external sound recorder, or being able to time sync to the latter. Also, clean and full resolution HDMI output ?

        I don’t expect much in this area from Nikon.

        However, at least headphone and mic jacks I take for granted.

        • Yes please…. clean full resolution HDMI output! It’s been so bad in all the Nikon’s, it’s not even on my dream list anymore… but a better HDMI path-out would be amazing.

    • paige4o4

      sony doesn’t do FULL sensor readout. it takes a 6k portion and downsamples. there’s no camera on earth (that costs less than $30k) that downsamples 8k.

      this camera will almost certainly achieve 4k (no-crop) by line skipping, and it’s unreasonable to expect otherwise. make no mistake, this is still really impressive. only the A7sii offers full frame 4k at this price point.

      • Please, can you explain line skipping or point me to a good source. I can’t see why 2×2 pixel binning isn’t all that is needed for uncropped 4k. I’m not much of a video user but I am getting more interested.

        • paige4o4

          Heat and bandwidth. Binning stil requires getting ~33 million pixels off the sensor and into the image processor. Doing that at 30fps would be extremely challenging.

          That’s why lines skipping is easier, as it only requires you to read ~8mp off the sensor at 30fps.

          6k oversamplong is the most impressive feat still cameras manage, which is reading ~18mp off the sensor.

          • Thanks for replying. I certainly don’t know anything like enough about this to contradict you but I do have some questions if you are willing to answer them.

            I can see the heat issue is a major hurdle but is bandwidth really such a limitation? Red can achieve 8k at 60 fps. True, there’s a big difference in price. Even the Pentium 4 processor (way back in 2004) had a system bus with a bandwidth well above that which would be required to sample a full 8k sensor at 30 fps. OK, very different architectures but do sensors not have parallel data paths?

            I realise the D850 only does 8k as timelapse and not video but that would also require writing much more data to the card than 4k. Do we know the maximum frame rate for the timelapse? Is it likely that the transfer rate for XQD limits this? If not then I guess the problem has to be data transfer and/or processing.

            8k would also require demosaicing but can that be avoided when reducing 8k to 4k? Couldn’t each 2×2 Bayer pixel block be directly reduced to a single RGB pixel without binning and demosaicing? Or would that cause colour moire?

            I may be asking stupid questions but I would like to get a better understanding of the technical problems. Any suggested sources would be very welcome.

            • paige4o4

              Happy to answer. You have to remember the size, heat, and power constraints inside a DSLR. The RED 8k is not only very expensive, it also sucks battery. It’ll drain a Nikon battery in literally MINUTES.

              I’m guessing timelapse is 7.5fps @ 8k.

              XQD is not a limit.

              You are correct, pixel binning is a technique that avoids demosaicing. You are also correct that this leads to moire.

              The new Sony cameras take 6k, demosaic it, downsample it, and record it. This is much better (in pretty much every way), but still isn’t moire proof, and is of course very processor intensive.

            • Thanks again. I’m finding this interesting technology but I am a bit rusty in this area. I’d like to do some more in depth reading but I guess what gets published is restricted.

  • Low light focus -3EV, greater possibility to take photo under dark situation (same as D5)

    happy again, I could through my D810 out the window sometimes for being -EV2

  • Young

    “Using Eexpeed 5 (same as D5) processor, high ISO together with good noise reduction engine, could give you high quality of color reproduction”

    As a Chinese, I think the translation above is little bit inaccurate. There is no such ‘noise reduction engine’ mentioned in the original Chinese texts.

    Here is my translation.
    “Using the same Expeed5 Processor as used in D5, achieving great noise reduction capability on high ISO and produce a high quality of color reproduction”

    • Allan

      Thanks.

    • Thanks. Anything else in the translation that you can clarify or improve?

      • Young

        I think other translations are pretty accurate.

  • Bill M

    A truly remarkable DSLR! I can see many photographers upgrading to this body, more so than the D800/810 bodies. Fantastic job Nikon.

    • And many of those D800/D810 bodies are going to get upgraded too. Mine definitely is.

  • Damn it, I have been carefully ignoring the D850 until now.

    • Aldo

      No way I’m buying this camera when it comes out… but it does have me very interested. I’ll be waiting to see what the d760 has to offer before I even think about an upgrade.

      • Andrew

        I’m already interested in buying this D850 camera, but I also am curious how far Nikon would push the D760 😉

  • sickheadache

    Excellent work Peter. You done good…I will send you a coupon for a new Arch Deluxe and Jr. Deluxe at McDonald’s.

    • nwcs

      The old Arch Deluxe was actually pretty good in the old days. For McDonalds anyway.

      • sickheadache

        They, McDonald’s Spent on research and development and Ads…over 300 million dollars on that Arch Deluxe. Damn…300 million.

        • nwcs

          As Lee Trevino said, “Never up, never in.”

      • sickheadache

        So was 12.1 mp. But Nikon/Sony has produced better since nine years ago!

    • I am hungry already… and thirsty… and its only noon…. but the good news is that it’s Friday 🙂

  • Kriss_De_Valnor

    It may be the best Nikon DSLR so far!

    • it is!

      • sickheadache

        This could be bigger than Don Lump.

  • Ryan

    Ok, I need a bigger hard drive!

    • sickheadache

      What? a 2-4 Terabyte or bite..lol 80 dollars nowadays…everyone relax on that issue. scared kitty cats.

      • Nas are quite a bit more. Enterprise, more than that. But in general, quite cheap compared to peace of mind.

        • Yes but it doesn’t cost much to stick some bigger drives in the box. Storage is damned cheap. I remember when a 5MB drive cost $4000. (Oops showing my age again).

      • Absolutely, I already run several 3TB drives. Hey, they are cheap compared to film. (Shows my age).

    • Jim Kiefer

      i’m concerned about impact to lightroom performance. i’m currently shooting D3S, and LR could be faster. Going from 12MP to 46MP? Yikes!

      • Ryan

        That definitely will be a concern. When I changed from the D7100 to the D810, I decided to get a MacBook Pro as my PC just couldn’t handle the file sizes well enough and that was just 24mp to 36mp, farless for 12mp to 46pm!! Technology advances so I guess we should too 🙂

  • Jo We

    To be certain, the specs are nice. I just don’t know if they’re 100th anniversary nice. This is just a minor upgrade to what has existed for the past three or so years. Is that really worthy of Nikon’s 100th anniversary? Is it worth the over 4k it’ll be after one purchases the battery grip, especially to someone who already has either the D810 or the D500 or both? I just don’t see it. This is not what Nikon needed in terms of mindshare and to keep people from jumping ship. There is nothing groundbreaking here. It needed to be more. This news is meh at best.

    • I think it will be a great camera, and it’s far from meh. I shoot a D810 and there are enough features here to make me consider moving to the 850. First, I’ll see what Nikon has up their sleeve in terms of mirrorless though.

      • Agreed

      • Jo We

        Respect, Mike. And you are in the minority with your belief that there are enough features to upgrade. I have talked to many many people in my personal life and have read more comments online that say the opposite.

        • I have talked to plenty of people too, many will move from a D800/E or D810 to the D850. So I guess we are at a stalemate.

          • Count me in, Mike. Upgrading for me will be a whole lot more expensive as I will need to buy a new underwater housing which will cost more than the camera. Can’t wait. I want it now but the housing won’t even get designed until the camera is available. I’ve already told the housing distributor to order me one.

            • Ouch, housing for SLR cams are so expensive. That is why I got a relatively cheap one for my Sony RX 🙂 Limited compared to an SLR but certainly better than those ghetto sandwich bag types for a smartphone.

            • I have several housings including for Sony mirrorless as well as DSLRs but my goto is my Nauticam housing for D800. I retired my film SLR housings when the D800 was released. Skipped D810 because of housing cost but thought a D820 would be along soon. D850 has been a bit longer coming than I anticipated but the wait looks to be worthwhile.

            • Nice, a big investment when you buy a housing so no surprise you didn’t get the 810. I did upgrade as the 810 addressed a lot of things that drove me nuts about the 800 🙂
              http://photokaz.com/blog/2015/05/05/why-i-upgraded-my-nikon-d800-to-a-d810/

            • Looking back,I probably should have switched to the D810 when it was released. It was a great improvement and has lasted well. Because of the housing cost it is important for me to be an early adopter as I was with the D800. Once a camera has been around for a while the economics of a new housing become questionable.

              I see you had the D800 focus problem. I was lucky to avoid that although mine was an early camera.

              Like your photos. Particularly the interiors.

            • Thanks a lot! Any UW D800 pics to share? What is your preferred lens? Do you ever use coloured filters?

              I bought the D800 and D810 as soon as I was able. Getting it early means you can depreciate the cost over a longer time. At the same time, as you noticed, you get early adopter problems. I still think it’s worth it.

        • sandy

          Sorry, but from what I read you are clearly in the minority.

        • nwcs

          Anecdotal evidence. It doesn’t really mean much of anything. Besides, how many of the people who said they won’t buy were ever in the market for it? And how many people who do buy previously said they wouldn’t or announce it?

        • It depends what kind of photography you and your friends do. But considering that D850 is universally more rounded and better suited to more kinds of photography, it seems that this one is going to be a hit.

        • Well I agree with Mike. If this is accurate then there are many new features that provide tools that weren’t there before. Nikon’s approach to focus stacking alone would be enough for me but it isn’t the only reason I will upgrade.

    • nwcs

      I think you had very unrealistic expectations then. It’s definitely not a minor upgrade. You can’t make that determination from an unreleased product.

      • Jo We

        Respect, nwcs. Do you know what my expectations actually were though? My comments were in context to a 100th anniversary release. In that context, there is nothing groundbreaking here, and I think that’s what Nikon as a whole needs . . . unless the mirrorless camera they’re coming out with is truly meant to be the groundbreaking product. This camera, with a battery grip, will be over 4 grand. I don’t think that there is enough here to justify that.

        • BukkakeComet

          To you what is the difference between the 100th year and the 101st year? And really what particular expectations were you looking for?

          • And it isn’t the 100th anniversary of Nikon cameras anyway. Perhaps we should have expected a ground breaking lens rather than camera?

            • Andrew

              The ground breaking camera is the P900, something most people would not event have have thought about. It’s near professional quality lens with 83x optical zoom is stunning.

              Taking pictures of the moon is surreal. Large distant objects that could not be seen with the naked eyes are brought closeup into focus. And now the range of this camera is going to be extended massively.

              At a professional level, the release of the D500 was a major event.

            • You’re right, I hadn’t thought about P900. If you wanted to carry a light all purpose camera, it would be difficult to beat. Great optics in its class. Not sure it would count as 100th anniversary product though.

        • nwcs

          No, I don’t know your expectations. Although when you state that they need something “groundbreaking” just because it’s their 100th anniversary and you think the D850 is minor I think I’m justified in saying your expectations were unrealistic.

          I’ve used a mirrorless camera for 3 years. There is nothing groundbreaking about them. They’re nice and I like them but they’re hardly innovative for lacking a mirror. It’s another form factor with some nice benefits and a few unfortunate deficiencies.

          The D810, when released, was around $3400 if memory serves. Nearly $4000 with grip. People didn’t say it was groundbreaking but it sure did very well and solidified the reputation for best overall DSLR.

    • Semaphore

      > This is just a minor upgrade

      It really isn’t. Maybe the upgrades are in things that doesn’t matter to you, but these are objectively very nice improvements.

      • Jo We

        I thought I began by saying the specs are nice? Respectfully, Semaphore, you don’t know what matters to me.

    • D5 AF / VF magnification / 130% bigger AF points spread. Enough for me. MP count even if at same IQ as before would just be an icing on the cake.

    • Bob Thane

      In the context of a 100th anniversary, it’s not something the eclipses the past 100 years of Nikon. But in the context of an upgrade to the D810, it’s pretty massive.

      If this was a typical incremental update I’d expect 42MP, the D750 AF system, either the tilt screen or more screen resolution, 6 fps, and a slightly bigger buffer than the D810.

      Instead, Nikon’s gone all out on this one, upping pretty much every spec by a large margin.

      Of course, the D810’s already an incredible camera. Most people don’t need anything better than the D810. Heck, most people don’t need anything better than the D610. But man, if the D850 performs as well as the specs suggest, it’s going to be well worth the upgrade if you have the dosh.

    • D700s

      What is the rule of thumb for a camera maker’s 100th? What precedent points to Nikon’s approach being wrong?

    • Allen_Wentz

      I disagree and think this body will rock, just like the D500 did. Perhaps moreso.

    • D700s

      I own both the D5 and D500. For me the D850 has two things that make it worth buying. Tilt screen and 46mp. Adding the D5 AF sweetens the pot as does 4K video. With the D850 + grip I’ll be able to use the same battery for all cameras not to mention only two card types. I wasn’t looking for ground breaking, just practical upgrades and the D850 doesn’t disappoint. Sorry it’s not a Sony A9 knockoff for you. Glad for me though. Guess it’s time to retire the D810.

  • Susheel Shrestha

    Nikon, please keep the price under 3500 USD. I have to buy this one.

    • Jo We

      The rumor here is somewhere in the neighborhood of $3600-3800USD, but you’ll need the battery grip to unlock the camera’s full potential. If that ends up being somewhere around $400-$500USD, you’re looking at about $4200USD or so.

      • Don’t forget the cost of en-el18 battery. It is the D5 battery. That is if you want the full potential.

        • HD10

          Unless one already has a D4 and/or D5, in addition to the cost of an MB-D18 and an EN-EL18b battery, one may also have to add an EN-EL18b battery charger as well as an BL-x (MB-D18 adapter for the EN-EL18a). The EN-EL19b charger such as the Nikon MH-26a can be quite pricey at $370.

    • Andrew

      I do not see the price of the D850 being more than $3,395 (US). Nikon has generally been keeping their prices low with the exception of the D5.

  • Vince Vinnyp

    My takeaway from the penultimate slide is that as was hoped the Wireless flash control is built in and it has WT7 support for pro transfer. Strange no mention of snapbridge bluetooth etc but clearly there were more slides.

  • abortabort

    “OVF 0.75x is the largest magnification rate for all existing DSLR in history.”

    Uhm, how’s that? Maybe that sentence needed a ‘Nikon’ in there.

    • Young

      Yes, you are right. The original Chinese text did say “the highest magnification ratio in the history of Nikon DSLR”

      • I updated my post.

        • Do you know of any full frame cameras with OVF magnifications greater than 0.76? 0.75X is damned close.

    • Yes, I updated my post – what, you don’t like that? It’s a bit of Sony marketing… 🙂

      • abortabort

        Nah, there would never be anything like that for Nikon 😉

    • And shouldn’t it say Nikon FX? DX cameras have higher viewfinder magnifications but smaller image sizes of course.

  • Dr.S

    So, hopefuly the Nikon upcoming mirrorless will belong also to this top range!

  • Originaru

    MONSTER!

  • milkod2001

    With D850 just behind the corner, when do you guys think D750 replacement will happen?

    • Vince Vinnyp

      200th anniversary 😉

      • Duncan Dimanche

        haha

        • silmasan

          Upvoted for your recent video trolling canon users… hehe 🙂

          • Duncan Dimanche

            haha i’m not really trolling ! I’m just upset at some of their decisions (especially with the 6dmkii sensor) but thanks for upvoting 😉

            • silmasan

              jk of course… 🙂 I was disappointed too because I was hoping to pick a mint one down the road within a few years.. to play with some canon lenses. Looks like 5d4 is the only model worth considering if you’re used to Nikon D8xx but it’s overpriced. I guess they’re relying too much on the users holding on to the “vogue” look and white skies… :-p

            • Duncan Dimanche

              Hahah
              Yes ! That mirrorless FF with shorter flange would be alright with me if the adapter can reproduce the same AF speed and accuracy as a normal lens !

              I really want them to come up with one…. but I need to buy some canon lenses for my Sony cameras haha damn it !!!

    • nwcs

      I wouldn’t expect it until late next year. Just based on how things have gone in the last several.

    • Coffee

      Based on recalls…. Between end of next year and never.

  • Todd Peterson

    I’ve been waiting to buy this camera for almost a year. Wasn’t expecting or needing 9fps, have D4s and D500 for shooting sports that’s just an added bonus. Can’t wait to get mine.

  • Mike

    What a (sophisticated) beast. The more I read the rumoured/leaked specs, the more I like what’s going on. Tell me it has a 20 something mp medium RAW option and I’ll preorder one as soon as there is an option to do so.

    • They have specified 3 raw options in the specs.

      • Mike

        What are they?

        • L/M/S.

          • Mike

            Lol. “What does it all mean Basil?” I did see that mention. Was wondering if there were specific values behind S/M/L

            • Large / medium/ small. For specific values, we most probably will need to wait for Nikon to announce the full details.

  • Ed Hassell

    Okay, no mention of 4K60 — at least, not yet.

    And 9fps is with the EN-EL18a battery (from the D5) in the optional MB-D18 grip. I’m assuming this means that it uses an EN-EL15a internally and can use either battery in the grip as has been the case in the past.

    • TheInfinityPoint

      Yup. Same setup as in the D700 + grip + D3/S battery. I had that setup for a while before selling it.

  • Thank you for the slides and translation Peter.

    I’m really happy the focus stacking outputs individual files. That’s a smart move on Nikon’s part as it will let users decide which tool best suits our needs. This approach is in contrast to other built-in features like HDR.

    • Allan

      Thanks for your great books, Mike.

    • I’m excited by Nikon’s focus stacking approach. Didn’t see that coming.

  • I was told again there will be a new D850 video – not sure if teaser or official announcement… so stay tuned

    • A video shot with the D850 or a video of the D850. I’ll take one of each please.

      • I think video shot with the D850. Not sure.

        • Unless they have two working D850’s… then there can be a video of the D850, shot with the D850!!!! 🙂 Thanks for all the posting!

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            If they can’t make 2 units, we’re all in trouble 😉

  • Max

    That viewfinder will be beautiful.

    • FerpectShotz

      Yesss, The D810 didn’t sway me to update from my D800, but the D850 looks like a solid step forward and will nicely complement the D500

  • Glad to see the “spot” AF feature. that’s something Canon has had that I was hoping Nikon would do. I looks like you can use it with more than just the center point too – very nice!

    • Aldo

      right on… I’m assuming is in ‘live view’ only?

      • I don’t know – Canon does it with PDAF

  • I would like to see some comments from all of those readers that told me the D850 specs I reported were wrong… I wonder if they will stop by today…

    • Exynos

      Dont bother with this H0ES

    • silmasan

      Was gonna reply “chances are I’ve already blocked them anyway” when it was proven right away… 🙂

    • Thom Hogan

      Cool down, Peter. You’re starting to get a bit Presidential-like in your defensiveness. Why feed the trolls?

      • br0xibear

        I think you’re right in “Why feed the trolls?”, but on the other hand I see Peter’s point.
        He puts a lot of work into this site and the information he posts, yet the information he posts is used and abused by other sites and individuals, people come here for no other reason but to cause havoc, and then accuse him of posting lies or making up stories for clicks.
        If every now and again Peter feels the need to say “Go F..K YOURSELF” to those people, then fair enough.

        • Exactly!

          • Eric Calabros

            You have any right to defend your reputation in your site and its fair. and unlike Thom, I even support Donald style sometimes. But I still want you to keep your Patient King character. Let them say “You know nothing John Snow”, but outrule and outlive them all 🙂

            • Yes, maybe I should go back to my old “laid back style” and keep my blood pressure low 🙂

            • Allan

              The accuracy of your rumors speak for themselves.

              Staying civil will only add to the power, integrity and dignity of Nikon Rumors.

              I appreciate and respect you, Peter.

            • Andrew

              That might be a good thing 😉 You are putting too much pressure on yourself if you are sensitive about being wrong. After all, this is a rumors site, being wrong is OK. If you step back and look at what you have accomplished, you should be proud of the fact that you have created a vibrant community. You are a side actor in all of this.

              Think of the days of planned TV programs, even Star Trek was costing $600,000 an episode to make. But with reality TV, a $50,000 budget can generate an audience as large as Star Trek if successful. This is more akin to Nikon Rumors, you can post any topic unrelated to a rumor and immediately the discussions start. Many people are using rumors as an excuse to discuss photography.

            • Yes, I guess you are right. I will slow down 🙂

            • Aldo

              He also has the right to be an ‘adult’… especially when he runs a growing site like this one. You wouldn’t understand.

          • SteveWithAnS

            I appreciate the rumors and information Peter. This is possibly the website I visit 3rd most often.

      • Thom, I have been staying put for years. I hardly made any comments l like the ones I have been posting in the past few weeks/months. I just can no longer take BS and there is a lot of it lately on the Internet. Everybody is an expert all of the sudden… When I see BS, I will call it, just like people call me when I screw up – it’s a fair game, right? You also like to mention your previous reporting, so what is different?

        • Fernando Gimenez

          Really appreciating your efforts. Nikon should share with you some of their incomes because all the info you have been feeding makes the brand more desirable and gets more involvement of us… The nikon fans.. Sorry If I’m lost in translation. By the way looks really good the specs. I would to know more of the raw L, M, S. and how quite (silent) is in normal shutter mode compared to d810.

          • Andrew

            To be honest, not always. Some of those posts and comments have hurt Nikon. So we have to call things as they are. Nikon also on occasions have not done themselves any good. But the main point is that with all of the altercations, people get educated over time especially in these days of lower ethical standards.

      • Aldo

        Don’t have to insult him that bad either … “Presidential-like” I do believe Peter is human…

        • Andrew

          I do not see it as an insult. Thom is making a good point. Peter carries more authority on this site than any of us. His successes or failures are there for all of us to see. If someone criticizes you or me about our motives, it is hard for us to defend ourselves.

          But if someone criticizes Peter, instantly we all know whether they are right or wrong because we all know the facts from our experiences on this site. So I would not read any thing like insult into Thom’s comment. Don’t add fuel to the flame, it is not necessary.

      • Andrew

        Thom, I agree with you on this one 😉 You are calling things as you see it, no harm intended. That shows character. None of us is perfect and even I do not mind being reproved – not alluding that to your intent.

    • Forget them, Peter. We know that you are a pretty reliable source. You also give a very good indication of the probable accuracy of what you report. That’s why most of us come here. Thanks for what you do.

    • Bob Thane

      Dude, you said the D850 would have a screen with twice the resolution of the D810. Instead it has 1.92 times the resolution – unacceptable. I don’t know who’s providing your rumours, but clearly they can’t be trusted.

      (I kid of course.)

      • I know, just more fake news 🙂

      • thundrrd

        You have to add the part about kidding, or look out because you will get a list of old posts sent to you if anyone takes your comment seriously, well, if one person in particular takes you seriously.

    • Aldo

      An occasional rant is well deserved and feels right at times… however a constant ‘in your face’ statement seems a tad out of place when trolls (as Thom pointed out) will always be out looking for ‘any’ reaction.

      • I agree, I am done.. for now 🙂 BTW, I am still waiting on the official confirmation that Nikon bought Samsung’s camera division, also on that Sony buying Nikon report and then also on the Fuji buying Nikon rumors. Ok, now I am done 🙂

        • Aldo

          Yeah they are either trolls or hopeless… I just came from reading a flat earther post. If we can’t even agree that the earth is round… there is no point wasting time.

          Your fans (the ones who matter anyway) already know you are proven (time after time) to be the most reliable source of information when it comes to nikon rumors =]

        • HD10

          Fuji buying Nikonrumors? Oh woe are we!

          =)

          • Lol, no “Fuji buying Nikon” rumors 🙂

          • Allan

            lol

    • Abhinav

      Worst part is people use information posted by you and make tons and tons of videos ..Later they are like its just a rumour site …Really bad …Don’t make a comment or make video if you don’t want to believe what is posted here .

      • Yes, still going on today.

    • TheInfinityPoint

      Your blog is the only place I go to for Nikon rumours. I don’t read/watch any of the other ones because you’ve proven yourself to be (nearly) correct pretty much every time over the years. So, keep up the good work and ignore the haters! 😛

      • Thanks for being a reader!

  • Julian

    Great! Can someone leak the English (or Swedish) version now please 😉

  • Exynos

    51 images lol
    What buffer is that ??

    • The_Incomparable_Douche

      THIS!!! Being limited to 51 images is unacceptable! I take more than 51 images in a single day sometimes! So now I have to buy a new $4000 camera EVERY DAY so I can keep shooting? Ridiculous!

      • Exynos

        51 images in 9fps is 5.5 seconds …. sometimes i burst 10 to 15 second to shoot BIF

        • Rick Johnson

          So go RAW M or RAW S, or DX Crop mode. There are ways to get more shots if you need them. Shoot CL for slower FPS. Processing and writing out 51 45MP images is no easy task

          Otherwise Get a D500 or D5.

          • Bob Thane

            Better yet set the image compression to a 12 bit version – much better quality than S&M modes, while reducing file size considerably.

            • Rick Johnson

              At times, the loss of DR in the shadows isn’t desirable when using 12-bit, but that would depend on the situation and whether you need resolution over dynamic range.

        • D700s

          You shoot some very very slow birds if you are tracking them in-flight for 15 seconds.

          • ninpou_kobanashi

            Condors circling?

      • There is no smiley face, but assume you are joking 🙂

        • If he isn’t then he must be away with the fairies.

          • TheInfinityPoint

            Or forgot to take his meds today lol.

      • CERO

        The D8XX series never had that huge buffer. they were also slow, but hey.. you get 9fps now.

        • ninpou_kobanashi

          It’s like 8fps more than I currently use (^_^).

      • You better buy a new memory card each day 🙂

    • BVS

      Note that that’s for 14-bit UNCOMPRESSED raw. I bet you’d get more using compressed, which I think nearly everyone uses anyway.

      • TheInfinityPoint

        Yeah, why would anyone use uncompressed when compressed is (supposedly) lossless?

  • sickheadache

    Peter I have attorneys…Rabinowitz Rabinowitz and Rabinowitz.

    • nwcs

      They’re not any better than mine: Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe. They’ve been a big force in the legal world for decades. I highly recommend them.

      • They can’t hold a candle to Milkem, Bilkem and Wein!

  • The_Incomparable_Douche

    No built-in RF flash trigger. WORST. CAMERA. EVER. Broken promises, Nikon…

    • Exynos

      Are u serious lol

    • Fly Moon

      “WORST. CAMERA. EVER”

      REALLY? Is it worse than the D810 or the D800?

      • nwcs

        Hyperbole comparable to their username…

    • Vince Vinnyp

      Where does it say it doesn’t have a built in RF flash trigger, I hope and think it does, but where did Nikon promise it would?

    • Ric of The LBC

      troll

  • konjow

    Waiting for same video details. Will it cough up 2017 yet?

  • Wildness

    One spec I would like to see is 60p at 4KUHD.

    • Vince Vinnyp

      I hope it will but fear it wont as that would likely be a headline on the first slide.

      • Wildness

        That’s my fear as well. Not a deal breaker, but it would put this camera into another level if it did. If it doesn’t, it is likely just a heat issue.

  • MB

    So now we know why such a huge pentaprism housing …
    But seriously, what broken promises, what EVF, when any of this appeared anywhere except in mind of some Truly Imaginative Man, or T.I.M for short 🙂

    • Where is he anyway? Or has he taken his ban too much to heart. Come back T.I.M.

      • I unblocked him like a week ago.

        • I know. That is why I was wondering.

  • VanHoff

    Drool!, Such a beast, I’m in.

  • CERO

    This thing is a monster!

    • Eric Calabros

      Imagine what their FX mirrorless could be

      • I’m worried that it’s going to be a total toy again.

  • Wildness

    Even without knowing the full video specs, my pennies are already saved (the DJI Phantom 4+ will just have to wait).

  • Ronald604

    “Support wireless transmitter WT-7”

    And the SU-800 and all the flashes one can assume?

    • Vince Vinnyp

      WT7 is for long range high speed wireless transfer and remote. It is a big expensive item which connects to the tripod mount and USB. It’s fairly specialised. It can’t trigger flashes.it was already compatible with the D810. At the moment you need a WR-A10 (Wireless Remote Adapter) and a WR-R10 with a D5 or D500 uto use radio control with an SB5000 This makes no mention of needing that so i hope it is built in which would do away with any issues from the loss of the built in flash for me.

  • Gumonx

    Any DR numbers? 🙁

    • Roy Amatore

      The announcement a few weeks ago said better high “and low” ISO. If the base ISO is going to say 64, then this implies greater dynamic range.

      • Gumonx

        i dont know man! it will have the same sensor than D5, or correct me if i am wrong, and D5 has like 12 steps only… 🙁

        • Bob Thane

          If it had the same tech as the D5, the native ISO range wouldn’t cap out at 25,600. So this sounds like they’ve not sacrificed any low ISO quality.

          • Looks like they have sacrificed some high end in favour of the low end.

      • JXVo

        Base ISO of D810 is also 64. They have have elevated the top native ISO from 12800 to 25600. Hopefully this implies better real noise performance and not just window dressing.

  • NJD

    Take my money…

  • Adam Brown

    I’ll be the first to admit it sounds great…. but how much better would it be… when using that silent electronic shutter in live view… if you could actually get continuous autofocus.

    • Reggie

      So much.

  • Luboš

    The specs looks impressive. But there is one thing I would prefer more then any other features. The AF is really good in D5, WB is really good in few of the newest camera, frame rate around 5 is good for me and few other thinks too. The one think I would like is improved ISO. D850 It is one step better then D810.
    Give me camera like D750, D500 or even D850, that ISO 25000 look like ISO 100, and I will gladly pay $10,000 for it. 🙂

  • Bob Cozzi

    No Flash? #NikonLostTheirWay The camera will be large enough without the need to ALWAYS have a flash. That has always been one of the advantages of Nikon non-highest-end DSLR, built-in flash.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Wrong. Top Nikon bodies have NEVER had built-in flash, because buyers of Nikon’s top bodies like me do NOT want a crappy built-in flash.

      • Bob Cozzi

        You’re agreeing with me. I said non-highest-end DSLR. The only reason it won’t be there is because Nikon is cheapening their cameras. Having said that, I agree that a “crappy” flash isn’t a good choice, but a quality one is deserving of someing at this price-point and market placement. But obviously it doesn’t matter as that ship is about to sail.

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