Nikon D850 presentation slides (part 2)

Here is the second set of Nikon D850 presentation slides (some of them could be duplicates from my previous post):

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  • Nikkor300f4VR

    Noice!

  • More goodies, it’s like Christmas. Come on August 15 …

    • August 15 or 16th is what I heard.

      • 50% of the time it’s a Tuesday.
        40% of the time it’s a Thursday.
        (For Pro / Semi-Pro bodies)
        But, who knows…

        • Yes, next week – this also explains all the events scheduled by Nikon.

          • Shipping starts, at earliest a month out, realistically early October is my guess. Price, I would guess $3,599.

            • NikonFanboy

              i guess its more $4000 and with battery grip $4500..Just a guess given the specs…

            • yes

            • Eleazar Liu

              Leaking price in china, retail at 23999RMB, 21000 without tax

            • CaMeRa QuEsT

              That makes it about $3600/$3150, sounds too good to be true, unless it’s now MADE IN CHINA!

            • im guessing 3,999$ just for nikon to get back on there feet.

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              How long to wait before the kinks get worked out? I’m worried about the large slew of new features (^_^).

              I haven’t bled on the edge for a bit (although I pre-ordered the AF-S 105mm E).

            • TheInfinityPoint

              jealous about your 105! lol j/k. Planning on getting that in a few months!

            • ninpou_kobanashi

              It’ll make a nice addition!

      • Hamish Stubbs

        I dont think it will be they are in Iceland filming promo till the 18th

        • Do you know who is filming it?

          • Hamish Stubbs

            I do

            • Hamish Stubbs

              I have tried to get info out of them but no luck as expected haha

  • justinf89

    I can’t wait!

    • Narren Rot

      You have no choice thou 😉

  • hoboonthegogo

    Super excited!! But nothing on dual pixel / phase detect on sensor yeah? 🙁

    • I did not report on this, what makes you think it will have it?

      • hoboonthegogo

        all hope really… 😉

        Thanks Peter. I’d be happy with at least focus peaking for using an lcd viewfinder.

        • Eric Calabros

          Now they should release a modern AF-P macro lens

          • jake337

            Yeah, something like the canon MPE 65mm that can magnify closer than 1:1 without tubes.

            • David Uglava

              5:1 actually

            • Trond Larsen

              I’ve never seen any explanation for why Nikon won’t produce a manual macro lens like the canon mp-e that gets 5:1. Not even something close. Stacking doesn’t get the job done properly. If i wouldn’t need to sell off so much gear I would definitely switch to canon only because of this lens. Anyone know why? Is the niche market for it just to small for Nikon to bother?

            • KnightPhoto

              It’s an interesting question about the lack of a 5:1 macro in the Nikon lineup. Of course they haven’t even updated the 200 f/4 yet, and that one would sell much more. Nikon needs to do the full treatment, modern bellows, 5:1 lens, close-up filters, 200/4 update, and extension tubes. Hopefully the 5:1 will come as Nikon (normally) pays a lot of attention to their Canon competitor.

              I hope Nikon is also thinking 600/4 PF to match the rumours of the Canon model coming in 2018.

          • Cole Breiland

            They should release an 24-70/4 AF-P E VR Micro for video.

        • Yes, I don’t think it will happen. Maybe in their mirrorless.

          • hoboonthegogo

            Thanks Peter, would love to see focus peaking on Nikon D-SLR’s. I still have hope! 🙂 (nothing backing this up other than optimism… 😉

  • Chris Phillips

    Is that comparison to the D810 ( Picture with the trees), 130% increase in Dynamic Range????If it is is game over for ALL competition.

    • Po-Jui Chiu

      AF area, not DR

      • Chris Phillips

        I Kinda knew it was too good to be true!!

    • Gumonx

      i have not seen any DR number, but being same sensor has the D5 i suspect that it will have even less DR than D810

      • Jim Kiefer

        Lower DR could be a no-go for me.

      • flaker

        Same AF, not same image sensor as D5.

  • Eric Calabros

    New white balance: Natural light!

  • RIT

    153 point D5 AF, expanded by 130% coverage, smaller focus point

    • RIT

      Support for wireless flash transmitter, so no in-built it seems.

    • nek4life

      130% expanded coverage from D5 or D810?

      • Po-Jui Chiu

        D810

      • The_Incomparable_Douche

        I would expect it to really be an increase of 30% (area equal to 130% of D810).

  • Eric Calabros

    L, M, and S raw sizes

    • The_Incomparable_Douche

      I was hoping for this!

  • Eric Calabros

    1:1 crop

    • nek4life

      This is going to be the ultimate Instagram machine!

      • Seb

        With Snapbridge, sure 🙂

        • Eric Calabros

          Slowgram

          • Chris Phillips

            LooL 🙂

          • Seb

            Good one 🙂

          • Zorik

            Lologram:)))

  • Po-Jui Chiu

    1/4 size AF point (both 1/2 in height and width) to focus on smaller objects

  • alphab

    My Google translate tells me for the basketball slide: 14 bit uncompressed RAW! CHRISTMAS IN AUGUST!

    • nwcs

      I’d rather have lossless compressed raw than uncompressed.

    • alphab

      Wait the D810 had that too, I thought it had been 12

    • Po-Jui Chiu

      Right, 51 continuous shots for 14-bit uncompressed RAW

      • Chris Phillips

        That means continuous shooting in excess of 6 seconds in 14 bit uncompressed raw, wildlife dream machine!

    • The_Incomparable_Douche

      But we already have that?

      • do we? in what mega pix size? are you referring to the sony a9? lmfao! or even a99?

  • Eric Calabros

    Apparently Menu has a virtual button

  • Wade Marks

    7 fps / 9 fps with grip…that’s really tremendous for a 46 MP camera. That is a lot of data throughput…that EXPEED processor must be a beast to handle this.

    • Aditya Gupta

      I know its awesome but if sony a99ii can do 12fps 42mpx then wh6 not nikon.

      • If you rush the data off the sensor too fast you can lose dynamic range, potentially induce banding, etc…
        You want a happy medium for a high MP non-sports maximized camera. Thats why Medium format cameras are 1fps-ish. Your IQ goes up.

      • Wade Marks

        The A99 has a translucent mirror. It doesn’t move during the actual taking of the photo.The downside of Sony’s technology is that less light reaches the sensor.

      • KnightPhoto

        Isn’t Sony just 12-bit at the high frame rates?

    • Constantine Aivazidis

      Without the grip the 7 fps are without AF.
      With the grip the 9 fps are with or without AF?

  • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

    PDF download please?

    • Wade Marks

      You can save these images to your computer and convert to pdf if you need to…

      • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

        I’m on phone at work!!! Just asking…
        Great news…

      • there was an app that could translate directly, I have to find it

  • mikew

    Is the image of the beetles saying in camera focus stacking ?

    • Chris Phillips

      It does Yessss, processed by some sort of Nikon software

  • Captain Megaton

    So that’s the full specs listed; (its in Chinese so I can’t read it except as rough guess of kanji)

    46 MP
    9 fps with grip
    8K timelapse
    4K video

    ISO64-25600
    153 AF points
    3.2 inch, 2.36 million dot LCD
    46 million ??? pixels again?
    0.75x finder
    180k RGB meter

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ef2785d16f470b9047de0d08e3ff3a5894a7cbfb99744516cd635723297b7dd.png

    • silmasan

      Just wondering, why do they put the comma after 4, or is that just typo?

      • RC Jenkins

        Non 1000-based separators are common in non-English speaking countries.

        Units like 10 000, etc.

        • silmasan

          Ahh ok, got it. the one that’s “Wàn” isn’t it … says google. 🙂

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            Yep, there is no “millions” multipliers in Chinese, so you have to multiply by “Wan” to get there, unless you reach 100 millions, which is is the next multiplier, “Yi” (亿). The 100Mp MF sensor will be 1亿p, for example.

        • TheInfinityPoint

          Yeah I’m Chinese and I find it weird to use 10,000 as a base unit. I work almost exclusively in metric, so when I talk to family members who are expressing numbers in the 10^5 to 10^6 range it takes me a bit longer to process it lol.

      • Eric Calabros

        4.575 x 1000 x 10,000

    • Bert Uwaerts

      google translate says ” 45 million mute shot” for that second 4500.
      This implies that the silent shutter operation comes at small resolution penalty of 75k pixels.

    • Pablo And-Jennifer Gabetta

      4575 vs 4500… I don’t know, I’m guessing how many pictures per charge?

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      There is no “kanji” in Chinese writing, what you really meant to say is “Han Zi”.

      • TheInfinityPoint

        Yes! Thank you! Some people don’t realize parts of the Japanese language were derived (more like stolen) directly from Chinese.

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          Taught/learnt would be the historically correct terms, actually:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji

          But yeah, before that, Japanese “would remain illiterate until the fifth century AD”, again, according to Wikipedia.

      • Captain Megaton

        You say Han Zi, I say Kan Ji, let’s call the whole thing off–

  • Would love to see a chart that compares featured here and otherwise known against D810, D5, and D500. Would be very helpful. I know there is a lot of catching up to do though with so much dropping at once…in Chinese nonetheless.

  • I must say, excellent work, Peter! If this is all true, your predictions have been very accurate leading up to this. Speculation in the forums (here and elsewhere) tend to blow every out of proportion, but you have kept your feet on the ground with your posts and have given us another realistic expectation of what this product would be. Thanks!!!

    • Aditya Gupta

      Ikr… Peter’s a genius!!

    • Thanks, I will just say one thing: NO EVF!

      • Marco

        Yes but yours is just a RUMOR site…ah ah we don’t know yet if there is or not EVF :-)))

        • Yes, don’t listed to the RUMORS sites, they are don’t know shit…

  • Eric Calabros

    New shutter and mirror mechanism that make less vibration

  • Chris Phillips

    I wish its DR is equal to or better than that of the D810. If it is then hands down it will be the camera of the year.

  • Price point is critical now… If it goes over £3000 in the UK it won’t sell.

    • Not even one?

      • Correct, not even one lol

        • disqus_ErOzKSxw9P

          the crappy 5D Mark IV was £3499 at release and oh boy did it sell well..

          • Canon’s pricing is ALWAYS higher at new. And given what Canon users were waiting for – a camera with decent resolution without banding, I’m not surprised it sold well, but it didn’t pull numbers from the D810 userbase. Staying price competitive is absolutely critical for Nikon now.

            • disqus_ErOzKSxw9P

              yes but it always goes to show that even if Nikon matches the pricing, people will still buy it and if Nikon goes on the offensive and price it at £2499 it will destroy all competition

            • silmasan

              They’re always higher even through the span of their life, even used.. compared to Nikon bodies. I’m not complaining, Nikon bodies are a much better value.

    • sandy

      What was the D810 at introduction?

      • nek4life

        $3,200 if I remember correctly.

        • dabug91

          Not quite, it was $3,300 and the D750 was $2,300.

      • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

        In UK £2999.99

    • br0xibear

      I’m pretty sure it’ll be above £3000, £3500 is what a Nikon Pro dealer in the UK was estimating.
      Taking a step back from all the excitement… Personally, it doesn’t seem that much of a jump from the D810. Not sure what the “surprise” that Thom talked about is, and maybe”herculean” refers to the price?
      Anyway, hopefully all those waiting for this body get what they wanted.

      • Thom Hogan

        The surprise(s) for me are mostly at the shutter, both mechanical and electronic. This enables things that like the Focus Stacking and curious 30 fps 8mp mode, among other things, but for a high-megapixel camera we’re getting a lot of things that should help us with pixel-level integrity, something that I think people weren’t thinking about (they just wanted more pixels, not better ones).

        • br0xibear

          I’m not a D800/D810 user, but from what I’ve read over and over from those wanting a D850, a mechanical and electronic shutter wasn’t something people mentioned…so in that sense I suppose it is a surprise.
          I’m surprised they stuck with XQD and SD instead of choosing one type of card…two XQD or two SD makes far more sense to me, I do not understand why they mix card slots. A surprise would be if they used CFExpress…maybe that’ll come in the D5s ?
          At the moment (in the UK) the D810 is £2100 and in stock, the estimated D850 price is £3500…that’s going to give few people something to think about.

          • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

            Probably because 1) side of upgraders have come up from example D5300 -> D7200 -> D8nn where using Serious Compact RX100 mk n they have massed a large no of SD Cards, plus if you stuck in the field of filled cards / corrupted cards then you can pop into any shop and pick up a SD card quite readily – unlike the XQD media where it is only used by a small no of cameras and couple of manufactures – One being Nikon. Another curious thing is that if Nikon wanted more uptake of XQD why was this not added to the D810 or to the D7500. The D7500 could easily have a SD and XQD slot in it – although this may take a few sales away from D500 it would mean more uptake of this new media XQD.

          • Thom Hogan

            I don’t see Nikon going CFanything in the near future. There’s no reason to.

            • br0xibear

              If CFExpress cards are made by more than one manufacturer, the same form factor as XQD and it’s faster than XQD…aren’t those legitimate reasons ?
              So far Delkin are the only manufacturer to announce CFExpress, I don’t believe they’ll be the only ones…but stranger things have happened.

            • Thom Hogan

              I’m not sure that there’s a big gain there at the moment. Sure, CFExpress 1.0 would be almost 2x as fast a XQD currently is. But given that we’re getting buffer-clearing performance out XQD right now, what’s the point? You’d have to upgrade the internals in the camera to PCIe 3.0, resulting in higher costs. The camera companies just simply don’t push costs into their gear if they can avoid it.

        • thundrrd

          Hi Thom, would like to know your opinion of the photo-stacking (focus stacking) option I’ve only heard about today. Do you think this is a big deal? I’ve never heard of a camera doing this, but maybe it is already a feature in other cameras.

          For years I’ve been an macro shooter and heard about focus stacking and knew about it, but never tried to do it. Do you think this will have an impact, or just be a minor feature in your opinion.

        • David McKibbin

          Talking of pixels Thom, do you think the list of existing lenses with sufficient resolution for this sensor will be much more limited that those recommended for the D800/810? Perhaps those recently updated lenses have been designed for this.

          • Thom Hogan

            No, not really.

            • David McKibbin

              Good! Thanks.

        • Eric Calabros

          That 8MP sounds odd, 2×2 binning (or 2x window) gets 4k or 8MP but only if it’s cropped to 16:9, not sensor’s native 3:2. and I guess it doesn’t record raw in this high fps mode, like D5.

    • JasonsArgonauts

      I’m sure it will sell actually. I’ll be buying one. I don’t think that £3400-£3500 is a bad price for a camera of this calibre. It does an awful lot more than the D810 and would compliment my D810 at weddings, allowing me to get rid of the D750 that’s been good, but I’ve never got on with it as much as the D810. The D5 I own could also be looking at relegation or sale!

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      £3500 is the rrp I imagine same as the Canon 5D MK 4 and probably sell quite well but what is Nikon’s minimum price of buildling, recovering R&D for this camera. if Nikon priced it at £3000 or £2500 how much more units will Nikon will sell over the anticipated rrp of £3500.00.. Can the Camera makers justify their prices or make sales / profit on the next iteration of Canon 5D MKV, Nikon D900, Sony A7 MK 3, 70-200 Afs VR. There comes a point where it is too much for people and they a) put off purchase of new gear b) buy grey imports c) buy second hand d) Go to competition.

  • Peter

    What feature does slide 14/24 (with the portrait of the girl) represent?

  • More confirmation please on built in or not radio transmitter if anyone can.

  • Chris Phillips

    In Dubai it will be priced for 16000 AED (got it straight from their sales dept.) That is roughly : US$, 4,366

    • DOA if that’s true.

      • Chris Phillips

        I hope its not true!

        • Nikon need to compete with Sony head on – cameras like A7RII are the competition.

          • Chris Phillips

            I think its the A9 they are after

            • The A9 competes with the D5 for me, not the D810 market.

            • Eric Calabros

              You think A7r2 replacement will be lower than $4k? Think again

            • Pushing prices ever higher in increments of $1000 at each release makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The market will not bear it.

            • sandy

              Those are Dubai prices, the US price should be lower. Lets wait for some real numbers before we grab the pitchforks.

            • Chris Phillips

              True, but it ain’t gonna be cheap either.

            • Chris Phillips

              Now yes it does but after the D850 rolls out if it is in the same price range it will be the D850.

            • RC Jenkins

              Similar pricing isn’t necessarily indicative of direct competition. For photographers, competitive use cases are.

              This camera isn’t directly competing with the A9 because they are each designed around different use cases.

              In other words, if I’m a photographer, I’m not saying: “hmm…I have $4000 to spend. What should I buy…?”

              Instead, I’m saying: “hmm…I want to shoot ‘x’. What should I buy?”

            • Chris Phillips

              I agree this is the case with pros shooting specific categories, for the advanced enthusiast though,(shooting generally), might be different.

            • RC Jenkins

              An ‘advanced enthusiast’ who buys an A9 for general / all-round shooting probably isn’t an ‘advanced enthusiast’ or leans towards action shots.

            • Michiel953

              They’re not after Sony.

    • so it should be under $4,000 in the US

      • Eric Calabros

        UAE prices are unusually high

        • Chris Phillips

          From Grandstores (Dealership), they are, sometimes they drive me nuts.

      • Chris Phillips

        I would think so Peter yes , I am thinking around 3800$ US tops , give or take 100.

        • yes

          • Chris Phillips

            You see, their pricing policy is such that one would pay the same sort of money to import a unit from the US,(including transport fees , insurance and what have you), BUT have no warranty from them.This way they control the market . Oh and they offer ONLY 1 year warranty on everything NOT 5 as is in the states.

      • I can understand low $3,000 range but $4,000 just seems high to me from a consumer perspective. Six months ago I thought the average price of a vehicle in the U.S. just seemed too high, and what happened, sales of vehicles in the U.S. are seriously sliding. It’s the same for cameras. At $4,000, I can afford to look around at other brands even though I’ve been a Nikon user since 1968.

    • Brynar

      It is never so easy that you can just use the exchange rate to calculate the price in another country. The price in a country depends on a lot of factors e.g. import tariffs, general price level of the country (some countries are more expensive to live in than others), VAT, competition, e.t.c.

      • Chris Phillips

        Very true, and the dealership in Dubai sells for around 25% higher than the third party stores. Hope its not as expensive as they said.

    • akkual

      I am certain the price will be the same as Canon 5d mk4 is. Which is pretty much 1k (in dollars and euros) more than D810 and 5d mk3 were on launch. So I assume price about 4000-4250EUR in Europe.

  • RC Jenkins

    ::45.75MP FX sensor
    ::7 FPS; 6FPS with AF (no grip)
    ::9FPS, when using the MB-D18a battery grip
    ::51-image buffer (14-bit raw)
    ::3.2″, 2.36-million-dot rear touchscreen. Improved gestures
    ::4K video
    ::ISO 64-25600 (native)
    ::No low-pass filter
    ::153 point AF system, with 30% wider coverage than the D810
    ::0.75x magnification optical viewfinder–largest ever on FX
    ::all AF points AF in -3EV; center point -4
    ::Auto-focus-bracket mode–the camera can take up to 300 pictures, varying focus between from close-infinity. User can choose 10 levels of focus steps. Roughly 5 FPS, can be software stacked.
    ::Fully-silent electronic shutter mode in live view. No mechanical movement. Can also shoot up to 30FPS for an 8MP image using the electronic shutter.
    ::Very precise, small AF points. Display is 1/2 the size now
    ::Variable sized raw: small, medium, large
    ::Auto-Scene modes & improved white balance
    ::SD + XQD
    ::Supports wireless trigger WT-7

    • Eric Calabros

      6fps with E shutter but with fixed AF. 30fps in 8MP mode up to 90 frames.

      • Justin

        That is insane

      • El Aura

        E-shutter (without any sound) requires constant mirror up. Meaning only CD AF is possible and continuous AF with CD AF doesn’t work well.

        • Eric Calabros

          AE is also locked. I don’t know why.

          • RC Jenkins

            Good question. AE is likely based on the RGB sensor, which is also blocked during mirror-up mode.

            AE then depends on the full sensor readout, which may be too slow for full readout + decision.

            • Eric Calabros

              AE is active in video recording I think

            • RC Jenkins

              Then I’m stumped. 🙂

            • Thom Hogan

              No, you probably don’t want to any “live view” use of the sensor while in this mode, as it would impact noise and/or timing.

            • RC Jenkins

              I don’t follow? Do you mean ‘imaging sensor?’ Because then we agree.

              My explanation was that AE is locked because the imaging sensor doing metering + decisions + imaging doesn’t cut it.

              🙂

            • Thom Hogan

              Right. When you’re taking images only you can zero out the electron well and stabilize it. When you’re running “live view” to get data, you use the sensor differently and wouldn’t have an optimal data capture if you suddenly tried to grab all the image data. I suppose there’s the possibility of putting in buffering time between running the two modes, but I don’t know of any sensor that currently does that.

    • silmasan

      Yeah, (AF) “Bracket” seems to be the right word there, rather than “stacking”… I’ve always thought it would be a great feature. Next: auto aperture bracketing, please! 😀

    • Hmm… 6 FPS with AF, I wonder if that also means 9 FPS W/Grip but no AF? As an action camera, that would take it from a stud to a dud pretty quick. Also, I wonder if the crop modes will have even faster AF. One nice thing with the 810 is the 1.2X crop mode – it bumps the frame rate and the smaller files give you a deeper buffer (and more room on the card). And hey, if you’re gonna crop anyway…

      • Eric Calabros

        6 is for E shutter in live vew.

        • Ahh, good deal and that makes for more sense.

          • Chris Phillips

            Steve you know you are gonna have to review this before I buy don’t you?

            • LOL – Yup, I’ll be doing a review on it as soon as I can get my hands on one. I’ll be playing the NPS card this time around – I have a feeling demand is going to be crazy.

            • Chris Phillips

              Wouldn’t have it any other way
              God bless man

          • Eric Calabros

            Its almost same data rate aa A99ii
            12bit x 12fps x 42MP vs. 9fps x 14bit x 45MP

            • It is moving an impressive amount of date, no doubt. I wonder if it still using the Expeed 5 or not. As to the mirror, I think that’s very possible. They get 12 FPS from the D5, but the higher res of the 850 would make it much more sensitive to vibration. In any event, 9 FPS at 45MP is a wildlife photographer’s dream!

            • Mac

              Hope it handles noise well in low light (higher ISO’s), when the critters tend to be out more! 🙂

        • RC Jenkins

          Updated to avoid confusion.

    • KnightPhoto

      Based on that the Silent Mode will be Jpg-only, just like the D4, D4S, and D5

    • Adam Brown

      Fully-silent electronic shutter mode in live view. No mechanical movement. Can also shoot up to 30FPS for an 8MP image using the electronic shutter.

      This would be fantastic — if they actually had a good live view auto focus system to go with it.

      Also… can the fully electronic shutter record full resolution images as well?

      • RC Jenkins

        I tried to avoid judgements or conclusions in the translation (via Google translate).

        But I wouldn’t expect on-sensor PDAF.

        Also, just to throw this out there: 8MP is 4k…

  • This looks awesome. My only slight disappointment is the slide that mentions -3 ev. If that’s AF detection, the D5 does -4. Still, D750 has -3ev detection and that AF is quite good, so coupled with the D5 AF module the D850 might be really great at low light AF anyway.

    ETA: someone mentioned above that the center point is -4EV. Good enough!

    • RC Jenkins

      This does -4 in the center point. The remaining ones are -3.

      This is similar to the D5.

      • JXVo

        And D810 is less sensitive than D5, D750 and D500. So it is a good improvement over the D810 AF and addresses one of the 2 minor weaknesses of D810 for wildlife, the other being slow fps.

    • mas921

      Its says -4ev on the center point; -3ev elsewhere. Just like the d5/d500

    • akkual

      I am more interested about the claim that AF points are spread 30% wider than in D5.. if there is something I hate on my D750, is the AF points too narrowly spread.

  • Nick Durante

    cant we find someone to translate these?

    • Chris Phillips

      Nick its relatively safe to assume however that would be nice I agree.

    • yes, coming soon – working on the post

      • Jim

        A busy morning for @Peter 🙂

    • RC Jenkins

      See my comment earlier here. http://disq.us/p/1l9lnwc

      Literally just a few comments away… 🙂

  • Glen

    So image size will be around 8,280 x 5,520. If true the full frame 4k crop should be the larger DCI standard. The UHD standard would be 7,680 pixel width (2x 3,840) or a 1.07x crop from the full frame.

  • jmey

    Anything about electronic front curtain? I hate that this function is crippled on the 810 because it must be used with mirror lockup mode.

  • Henry

    Great catch on these slides! Exciting details here! Thanks!

  • bobgrant

    My guess on US pricing is 3,595.00. 4K would lose them a LOT of sales. It’s just too big a number for a lot of advanced shooters to swallow. Many will just sit and wait for it to sell for less or be packaged with a grip or lens. But at 3,595.00 most shooters will see it as fair pricing.

    • Josh Warrender

      Hopefully no more than $3799. Agreed on over $4K losing a lot of sales.

  • Yuanxu HA

    Thanks Peter, really amazing.

  • Phil Sohn

    Looking pretty decent. I been saving up so I think it’s a go for me.

  • Nika

    Great Specs

  • Michael Laing

    I am sure I will end up buying the D850 but with my previous experience of buying the D800 earliy’ish, I am going to give it some time, so Nikon can iron out the bugs (which are bound to happen, its a Nikon :P)

    • Allen_Wentz

      I had no problems with the preordered D500.

      • bobgrant

        D500 was not quite the monster that this looks to be. I’ve preordered and been okay at times (trouble with early D800 and D5), but I’ll wait for spring on this one or even mid-summer. With a D810 and D500 I’m in no hurry. The D850 looks to be a stunning camera and I’m looking forward to it, but I’m not going to be part of the initial Black Friday frenzy for it.

        • Allen_Wentz

          The main thing is we need to physically handle this new beastie. Also waiting a bit will let us see what the D5s brings, and whether or not a D5x materializes.

      • Michael Laing

        Well Nikon’s recent history doesn’t particularly shine when it comes to new DSLR’s. I hope I am wrong I really do and a lot depends on when I start getting back to work but at the moment I am going to hold off. (plus I have just bought the Nikkor 105 f/1.4 and the Bowens XMT500 travel kit, so my bank manager would like me to hold of on buying anything until I start making money again).

        • Vince Vinnyp

          This just shows how much one bad incident impacts on a company. Their recent history does shine. D5 D500 D7200 D7500 D810 D810A D5500 D5600 D3400 no issues since the D750 which was a 2014 camera.

          • nwcs

            The D500 and D5 did have a few issues. Mostly corrected in firmware.

          • Michael Laing

            The D5 and D500 did have a pre-emptive recall if I do remember correctly. The D810 really was the D800 with everything fixed. I am not sure there is much difference between the D5500 and D5600 (Almost thought they were the same camera :P).

            Nikons quality control has improved and around 2012 Nikon was having lots of issues for various reasons. As I say I do hope the release does go smoothly but I am not willing to order the D850 until at least 6-9 months after it has been released (unless I have a crazy moment (which has been known)).

          • Just saw another recall for more D750s. Oops. So far my new D750 serial number not on the list. Still irritated over my D800 but the D810 is much better.

    • RC Jenkins

      Among others, this is one main reason why (as I mentioned in some of my other posts), Nikon really messed up release timing of this camera.

      If they had this ready to go on or around July 25th, prospective customers would have 4-5 months to see early adopters assess the camera in the wild before the holiday shopping season.

      This camera could have flawless build quality, but Nikon has unfortunately put itself in the position of having to prove reliability.

      • Michiel953

        If you can’t you don’t.

        • RC Jenkins

          Agreed. But don’t mess up early on and put yourself in that position in the first place. This 100th anniversary wasn’t exactly a surprise.

          I don’t understand the justification of “they only release finished products.” Cool? That’s a good thing.

          They also release them late. Not cool.

          • Michiel953

            Once you’re using you’ve left all that behind you.

            • RC Jenkins

              Not when you miss events or sales opportunities.

              Example: when you miss the NA eclipse. Or you can’t shoot the Milky Way center until 2018.

              Or when you miss an opportunity so bad, that you missed the window and wasted and mis-allocated millions in resources. A la Nikon DL.

              Timing is very important.

          • Michael Fabricius

            Hopefully they see this and consider hiring you as a product advisor!

  • Ferdinand

    Still using d700 right now I guess this is the next one for me.

  • Yuanxu HA

    There are some other features mentioned in the slides.
    illuminated button – confirmed
    Accurate AF for Macro Photography – 1/2 width and height of normal AF area
    Full functional touch screen – compared to D5 & D500, it supports touch AF, touch shutter and touch menu
    Auto AF movement (I dont know if my translation is appropriate) – it means when you want to shot a stationary pic with focused object from 0 to ∞, D850 can automatically shot with stepwise focal length. But you still need to synthesis them in software.
    electronic shutter – 6fps max (AF/AE fixed) or 30 fps in 3s in DX format (8MP)

  • New Yoko

    Off topic, Nikon made a mistake in advertising or manufacturing and/or might recall one of the 100th Anniversary item.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Oh darn…

  • Looks like it’s going to be the world’s best all around camera for nature photographers (and heck, probably everyone else too). I can totally see using this over my D5 unless I really need the extra FPS / buffer. Since it has the same pixel density of the D500 (and AF, etc), it kind of makes that body irrelevant too unless you need the deeper buffer. Sign me up – maybe for a pair of them.

    Just don’t make it too $$$…

    • RC Jenkins

      Agreed. As I mentioned in past posts, I think in NA, Nikon needs to keep this psychologically south of $4000. The most they can get away with is $3799 USD, which is a good value relative to other offerings.

      • Agree 100%. I think if they break the $4000 mark it’s going to hurt sales, although Nikon also doesn’t seem afraid to ask crazy amounts of money for gear either.

        • silmasan

          They can always break that mark through the new grip anyway… ^_^

          • LOL – no kidding – I’ll bet $400~$500 for sure.

            And I’ll be in line for one. Sigh…

    • nwcs

      The big reason for the D500 is you get targeted performance at a much lower price point. The D850 may be the ultimate all-around camera but will it perform better than a D500 at the same type of shooting the D500 is aimed at? That’s a question many of us will be asking ourselves. Other than the FX area what is the gain?

      • The FX area is the real gain here. Not only will you have better overall ISO performance, FX also allows for better subject isolation and better use of ultra wide (there is still no DX UWA that can outperform the 14-24). Plus, if you’re filling the frame, you also have 46MP instead of 21 (rounding). Those added MP also give you some flexibility in cropping if need be as well.

        My main reason for FX over DX actually is subject isolation. With FX, you need to get closer / use a longer lens, both of which have the effect of wiping out busy, distracting backgrounds. For wildlife, this alone is well worth the price.

        • nwcs

          I agree with it all but the lower price point of the D500 is still a big big plus. And for enthusiasts like myself the ability to get nearly the same telephoto results at a lower price point is very compelling.

          • Oh, no argument. The D500 is a heck of a camera for the price. And please don’t get me wrong, I shoot DX frequently and love the results. I simply prefer FX and this camera gives the best of both. But, as you say, it won’t come cheap.

            • Eric Bowles

              I won’t be keeping the D500 if the D850 is delivered as suggested. There is a slight advantage in frame rate, but not enough to justify keeping the D500. The DOF benefit of FX is too much better for all the reasons Steve described.

        • RC Jenkins

          Just to throw this out there, the ‘longer’ lens isn’t a cause of wiping out distracting backgrounds (though getting physically closer is).

          The aperture is the cause you’re describing.

          (Aperture, not f-number).

          • Not sure I follow. A longer lens produces shallower DOF at a given F/Stop than a shorter one does. So, if I’m shooting a 200mm F4 on a DX body, I’d need a 300 F4 for the same crop on an FX body and that would result in shallower DOF on the FX cam.

            • RC Jenkins

              The key is “at a given f/stop.”

              200mm F/4 does not have the same aperture as 300mm F/4.

              200mm F/4 = 50mm aperture
              300mm F/4 = 75mm aperture

              The focal length does not affect the depth of field. Your physical distance from the subject & the aperture (again, aperture not f-stop) do directly control the depth of field.

              So all else equal, a 75mm aperture from 100 meters away should have roughly the same depth of field regardless of the focal length. This is due to the simple angular geometry.

              In other words, a 400mm F/8 and 200mm F/4 lens should have roughly the same DoF. You can try it and crop / view at the same magnification.

              Or another way to put it (reverse engineering the above), a 200mm F/2.6 on DX should have similar observed DoF to 300mm F/4.

              The point is just that the aperture size of the lens has just as much to do with DoF as the sensor size. This is why some smaller-sensor cameras with very large aperture lenses (like F/0.95, F/1.0, F/1.2, etc.) can still get shallow DoF.

              You’ll note that this is a simple conversion: when using the crop factor, both the focal length & f-number should be included in the conversion.

            • Ahh, I get it – never thought of it like that, but makes sense. Thanks!!

  • Ed Hassell

    If my math is correct, DX mode will be approximately 19.67MP, essentially 1MP or 5% less than the D500. It would need to be about 48.25MP in FX mode to allow 20.67MP in DX mode.

    • JasonsArgonauts

      Even if your maths aren’t correct, that’s still pretty good going!

      • Ed Hassell

        lol — I’m not arguing, just being anal-retentive. I won’t be among the initial orderers; however, I’ll probably have it in hand by March/April of next year.

    • nwcs

      There may be some loss on the FX side due to pixel masking. It may be that the DX area will be roughly the same as the D500 as it may not have any need to mask off pixels.

  • Chris Phillips

    Its funny how everybody forgot to bring in the mirrorless saga, welcoming change!!

  • Hamish Stubbs

    For those that said that it would be announced this week I doubt it, They are in Iceland filming the promo until the 18th, All I wanna know is if it will shoot 4k60 if so this is my dream camera asa landscape photographer that likes to daddble more and more into video but 4k30 is pretty useless as you can’t slow footage down

  • Tuna

    Admin:Do you know if the 9 fps with the battery grip is with continuous autofocus?

    • Shutterbug

      It definitely will be, that isn’t hard to do at all, especially for Nikon.

  • luan

    It looks amazing. Maybe that bug on the 16th does mean focus stack built in camera?

  • Shutterbug

    Is there anything in here on live view AF or is it still CDAF?

    • mas921

      I think if it was anything other than the usual; it would’ve been on the main slides.

      • Shutterbug

        You are probably correct…

  • karayuschij

    All is perfectly clear now!!

  • Mac

    Hope Apple boosts their MacBook Pros to 32 GB to handle processing all these 46 MP images that will be generated at 9 fps! 🙂

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      And PC’s 2 – although with these new cameras we should look for these as long term investments – especially with the gear shooting up in price

  • RC

    Not seeing anything about image stabilization built into the sensor… This camera will suffer the same way the Canon 5DSR is right now without it. Everyone is finally realizing that an SLR with 40+ megapixels will not produce sharp images unless you are shooting at 1/250 or faster. Mirrorless can do it a bit better because the mirror isn’t jostling the innards of the camera around. All the more reason to get on the sensor stabilization train for SLRs.

    • RC Jenkins

      Shutter shock & mirror shock are different things. Mirrorless cameras still have shutter shock. And IBIS only helps so much for shutter shock.

      • jmey

        If they do correct electronic front curtain shutter in all modes then high mega pixel won’t matter

        • RC Jenkins

          agreed. Anything to counter mechanical shock (both mirror & shutter) helps. This can include:
          -Shutter Timing / speed / weight
          -Dampening
          -Weight balancing
          -Movement balancing (ie. IBIS)

  • Photoman

    Darn new battery grip. That means new L-Bracket for tri-pod use for landscape shooters.

  • Jordan S

    I really hope this camera works as a great video camera too. It sounds crazy but Nikon might very well be leapfrogging Canon DSLRs for video with this thing! Better codec, FF 4K. Really would like phase detection in live view or at least focus peaking.

    Canon is afraid to hurt sales of their C series cameras but in this era with Sony and Panasonic incorporating great video in their photo cameras, you gotta have good photo AND video features to stay competitive.

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