Different Lexar SDXC and XQD memory cards tested on the Nikon D7500 and D500 cameras


After the news that all Lexar memory cards will be discontinued, there have been some discussions about the speed of the different SD and XQD memory cards. I found some tests performed by Lexar that you may find interesting - the first one is a comparison between the Lexar 64GB 2000x SDXC UHS-II ($94.82) and Lexar 64GB 633x SDXC UHS-I ($26.95) on a Nikon D7500 camera:

Here is a similar test performed on the Nikon D500:

and finally the Lexar 64GB 2933x XQD 2.0 ($89.49) vs. Lexar 64GB 2000x SDXC UHS-II ($94.82) comparison test on the Nikon D500:

More memory card speed tests can be found here.

Lexar memory cards are still available for sale at B&HAdorama and Amazon.

Update: additional memory card tests can be found here.

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  • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

    Excellent article Admin, if Nikon had the means and %$$%%$%^ it could be good kudos if they could step in and purchase the Lexar brand / remit in producing XQD cards. With their name and the excellence that they can offer and being in the long run of supporting and developing technology that sits within their product.

    Nikon have been around 100 years and this is a big achievement in itself.

    • FountainHead

      “Nikon have been around 100 years and this is a big achievement in itself.”

      The bottom of the barrel, it has been scraped right here.

      • GMck

        How is life in the barrel?

      • FountainHead? Oh, yeah, you’re one of those. Never mind.

      • TwoMetreBill

        Loved your TV show, bought all the disks.

    • Yes, there were a lot of discussions here on this topic.

  • Proto

    Isnt the slowness in SD card performance in D500 caused by a slower SD card bus in the camera, and not just the card itself?

    • Allen_Wentz

      Both. Why some here pretend like it is only the bus I do not understand.

      Read the specs or use the cards out of the camera and the far superior speed of XQD is obvious.

      • Hans J

        Cards are always on sale. XQuitD cards will soon be forgotten.

        • Rudi

          Best cards on the market so far in every aspect. Period! And I have used all formats, believe me.

          • Mike A

            I wish the D820 came with twin XQD – Much faster and easier to manage one storage medium

        • dabug91

          Sorry buttercup, but XQD isn’t going anywhere and will be around for years to come. Get over it. Stop pretending to know the future when you’re clearly clueless.

          • Hans J

            Don’t fight me I’m here for you! Fighting this good fight for you. I know what you need and want better then you do.

  • Spy Black

    I don’t understand what the generic-looking UHS-I SD icon represents in the first video, and why it’s essentially as fast as the UHS-II card. The other videos show how crippled the SD bus is on the D500, and probably forthcoming D8x0.

    • Davidvictormeldrew Idontbeliev

      Probably spot on here unfortunately. and the other stuff like 4K will just be like the D5 – without much sauce on top.

      The charge of the camera is likely to be premium for it – probably stack at £3999 / $3999

  • Some more card speed tests can be found here:

    http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/

    • br0xibear

      Oops, sorry…disqus is playing up and I didn’t see you’d already posted that link.

      • Never mind. I’ll be OK with 50% of your benefits 😉

  • br0xibear

    Another interesting SD speed test article, Nikon D7500 tested with 131 different SD cards…

    https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/nikon-d7500/fastest-sd-cards/

  • TwoMetreBill

    Since Lexar is going to continue manufacturing the components that go into the retail Lexar products, it would only take a modest crowd sourcing project to keep these cards on the market. Nikon could discontinue their “junk food cameras (D3xxx, D5xxx) and lenses (18-xxx)” and use those resources to produce something that is actually profitable.

    As Fuji, Olympus and Panasonic are in almost desperate need of a storage medium beyond SDXC, perhaps Nikon could bring them in as partners. We are rapidly tending toward Canon vs the world, these types of partnerships could become necessary for survival.

    • Allen_Wentz

      There has been no suggestion that XQD is going off the market. The only observation is that Sony will be the sole manufacturer unless someone buys the Lexar rights.

      Note that even defunct products like Beta tape and floppy disks remain cheaply available for overnight delivery.

      • Spy Black

        “Note that even defunct products like Beta tape and floppy disks remain cheaply available for overnight delivery.”

        The flaw in that argument is that those mediums were used in hundreds, sometimes thousands of products, that were sold to millions, sometimes billions of people.

        In contrast, XQD is used in FOUR still cameras, and a similar number of video cameras, whose user based is very small, especially on the video camera side. XQD can die tomorrow, and essentially only you, ITN, and Thom Hogan will be crying about it.

        • Hans J

          Finally someone that gets it! Thank you dude!!!!

          • Mike A

            Twin XQD is the only way to go – Much faster and easier to manage one storage medium.

        • Allen_Wentz

          You guys do not get it. I already own the fast competent XQD cards I need for my D500. XQD will not go away, but if it did my D500 will FOREVER be a better camera because it has XQD.

          The D500 would forever be a less competent body if Hans J had his way and it was limited to SD performance.

          A new D8xx we will have to empirically test, but large files in a pro camera screams out for superior XQD. There is a reason most D5 users choose XQD in the modular D5 body.

          • Spy Black

            No, you don’t get it. XQD is a dead-end medium. It’s an SD world, period. If the D500 had only used a pair of full speed SD slots and never used XQD, you never would’ve missed it, regardless of how much faster XQD is. In another year or so UHS-III will be out and regardless of whether XQD II comes out, nobody will care, because nobody uses XQD.

            • dabug91

              lol keep telling yourself those alternative facts. XQD isn’t going anywhere and can only improve in popularity.

      • CERO

        I would hate sony to be the only vendor. I can imagine them jacking up the prices just for the sake of it.
        Just like they did with their proprietary storage devices and cables.

    • “Nikon could discontinue their “junk food cameras (D3xxx, D5xxx) and lenses (18-xxx)” and use those resources to produce something that is actually profitable”.
      Those “Junk food” cameras as you call them are the real profitmakers. If those are gone, so will nikon. Be thankful for them.

      • 24×36

        They may be the real volume sellers, but probably aren’t the real profit makers, certainly not at this stage.

        • PhilK

          Sorry but I don’t think you understand the economics of how consumer product manufacturers fund the R&D and production resources necessary to produce “halo” products.

          Products like the D-5 are not self-sustaining because you simply never sell enough of them to recoup their development and production costs. Lenses, accessories and mass-market cameras subsidize those products.

  • Hans J

    Proving my point XQuitD Cards are useless. Just make SD cards a little bit faster and all things will be equal.
    In fact the SD cards are already fast enough.

    • Allen_Wentz

      Whatever are you talking about? Did you even watch the videos?
      Watch the D500 video. I have lived it.

      Plus this is in-camera performance. The XQD performance benefit in post processing is also dramatic.

      • Rod P

        In the UK 64GB Lexar XQD is £129 ($166) a 64gb SDXC card is £25 ($32).

        • CERO

          size is not everything, the price is also dictated by speed.
          I can find super cheap crappy speed SDXC cards too. Will they perform as closed to XQD? nope.

        • Allen_Wentz

          Of course one can find cheap slower cards. But right now 300 MB/s 64 GB SD cards are ~$120 at B&H. 440 MB/s XQD cards are ~$100.

          • Rod P

            One of the reasons I never bought Lexar is that their claim of 300mb/sec is just silly, they are no faster than Sandisk extreme pro @ 95mb/sec, and still 1/3rd price of Lexar XQD

            • Allen_Wentz

              That just is not true Rod when a faster card is used in a camera system or in a card reader capable of utilizing the faster card.

              Sure, with one’s old gear one could save a bit by buying cheaper less competent cards. Personally I do not do that because to me data storage is paramount, and I want to know that I have the very best available mass storage for captures.

              But if one uses such slower cards in a more modern system (camera system _OR_ card reader system) the slower cards _will_ impact performance. The D5 and the D500 are the best current examples. XQD rocks.

            • CERO

              Read speed is not the same as WRITE speed.

      • Hans J

        Those cards are always on sale. I never shoot with cards bigger then 16gb anyway. So those hi-capacity cards don’t mean anything to me.

        I did watch the videos BOTH cards have the SAME TIME!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a191ae54f70c8542e013302c4ee3cd0e608f03f0432c6e188ed084a5fb64971.png

        • Hans J

          Proving my point XQuitD cards can not compete in todays market. If it don’t Fit its time to X Quit D 😉

          • Bob Thane

            UHS-III will offer top speeds of 624MB/s, and was only announced this year. So far no cards nor cameras for this exist, so we’re looking at several years before this is implemented.

            Right now, XQD offers 440 MB/s – higher than the 312 MB/s of UHS-II, and much higher than the 104MB/s of UHS-I. Back in 2012, XQD 2.0 was announced, offering speeds of 1000 MB/s.

            Thus XQD has the edge right now, and that edge is likely to widen over time.

            Is it worth it to most people? Nah, most people are fine with Default Speed SD. But if you’re a pro sports, event, or wildlife shooter, or if you shoot high end video, speed matters.

            • Hans J

              I’m a pro photographer and card speed has never been a problem. Changing card format every 2 to 3 years has been.
              Thats why I’m so against XQuitD.

            • Bob Thane

              It’s not that card speed’s a problem for you, it’s that card speed’s a problem for companies that want to make better cameras in the future. If you’re fine with current card tech, stick with those cards and the cameras that use them.

            • Hans J

              I’m trying!! but they want to build XQuitD slots in the new cameras, I’m here trying to prevent that.

            • Rudi

              You’re boring… just don’t use them and I’m sure you don’t even have ever used them.

            • Hans J

              thats just it I DON’T want to use them but they are forcing me by putting them in the cameras I get. I’m doing this for you dude. For the customer. I’m fighting the good fight for YOU

            • CERO

              No you dont, you’re fighting for yourself with some weird hero complex and ego problems.

            • Hans J

              No dude I’m here to save you from yourself. You don’t know what you want and need. I DO, look don’t worry I’ll take care of things here. Go back do insulting people on the internet.

            • CERO

              “go back DO insulting people on the internet” like you did a few ago?
              And yes, its clear you have something wrong with you and some sort of hero/ego issue. Noone is asking “to get saved” from a supposed danger only you see.

            • Hans J

              Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Don’t worry I’m here to help. I’ll keep you in check.

            • CERO

              Seek help please. You need meds.

            • Hans J

              yes go get those meds. I support you.

            • PhilK

              You’re certainly not doing me any favors with this “fight” of yours.

              I will take XQD any day over rinky-dink SD.

            • Hans J

              I’m here for you.

            • PhilK

              In your mind. Nowhere else.

            • Hans J

              Where else is there?

            • PhilK

              Stop trolling.

            • Hans J

              You keep pushing me away, don’t reject me hug me. With my knowledge I’ll make sure you’ll be ok.

            • Bob Thane

              But man, they won’t have new cameras if they have to stick with old tech! They’ll just have the same specs as old cameras, and then why bother making a new one?

            • Hans J

              Wow look at the videos SD is fast enough and SD cards are ALWAYS getting faster. UHS III was just announced and its supposed to be faster then XQuitD

            • Bob Thane

              In my very first comment I mentioned how UHS-III was just announced, whereas XQD 2.0 was announced in 2012. My money’s on XQD 2.0 coming out before UHS-III.

            • Hans J

              Soooo XQuitD was announced in 2012 and its still not here… sounds like vaporware to me. If you believe that I have the Brooklyn bridge for sale. PM me I’ll give you a great price. 😉

            • PhilK

              Isn’t going to help you one iota on your old cameras that won’t be able to use them.

            • Hans J

              I always have the latest gear.

            • Allen_Wentz

              It boggles my mind that anyone would lobby for Nikon to intentionally exclude the best possible modern card competence from an upcoming high-MP pro body.

            • Hans J

              It boggles my mind that anyone would lobby for Nikon to intentionally exclude the best possible modern card competence from an upcoming high-MP pro body.
              I’m just going to say I feel the EXACT SAME WAY.

            • Allen_Wentz

              It is interesting to see Hans post “card speed has never been a problem,” because since the early days of DSLR I have _always_ considered card speed to be limiting. That, plus I do not like the SD form, is why I am so in favor of XQD.

              Sometimes the bus, buffer, etc. are more of a bottleneck than the card itself, but always it is about two evolving i/o systems: in-camera and on the desktop. Those systems by definition _include_ the card.

              Card speed is part and parcel of both the in-camera read/write system and the desktop read-only system, and each of those systems evolve as including the card.

              Use of faster, higher capacity cards facilitates development of faster, larger-batch captures in-camera and allows for faster post-processing workflows. That is why tech firms staff card standards organizations like CFA.

              Tech constantly evolves to become better and more competent, and XQD is better and more competent than SD in every regard. The idea of halting tech evolution just to use an older, less competent card format is repugnant to me.

            • Proto

              XQD + SD dual slots are useless, and that is likely being assigned to D820.

              It should be either dual XQD or dual SD. It covers both needs –

              (1) people who do not want to be stuck with XQD (like betamax) or

              (2) people who want speed of XQD but do not want it slowed down by the SD slot used for backup. Using just one XQD slot is ok for tourists.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Analogizing to Betamax and saying “stuck with XQD” is a false analogy. First because Betamax was a consumable, while XQD is a buy once and use forever product. Second because Beta tape is still cheaply available overnight today, just like SD is and just like XQD is and always will be.

              My wish since the D500 has always been for dual XQD, but it seems that the wishes of folks like Hans J.have led Nikon to again cripple performance by including SD as the second slot.

              Do note that pulling the SD card is not just for tourists. In fact a tourist would benefit from the second slot backup.

              The times one pulls the lame SD from a camera like D500 are when one wants max performance but can tolerate the (extremely low) risk of not having real-time backup happening. E.g. dual cards mandatory while a wedding cake is being cut, but XQD-only hella preferable while shooting eagles hunting, steeplechase horses, dogs at a field trial, etc.

            • Hans J

              Agreed. I’ll take the camera that has a future. SD for me.

            • CERO

              Or they could just simply offer interchangeable ports.
              Dual XQD or Dual SDs depending on the type of shooter.

              Dual XQD for Nature, fast photos, weddings, etc..
              Dual SDs for Portraiture and landscape.

            • PhilK

              Nice idea but I’d imagine there are size and cost reasons why this is only currently done with the D5.

            • CERO

              body size is the obvious lol.

            • Hans J

              Shoot slower. Learn to think before you shoot.
              Card problem solved. No thanks needed 🙂

            • Allen_Wentz

              “Learn to think before you shoot” is just a stupid insult framed in your own ignorance of how modern cameras like the D500 allow new capture methodologies.

              Imagine an eagle in flight that you have been shooting with a D500’s great AF and speed, and the eagle suddenly dives on prey, captures prey, flies off with prey. The D500 with XQD (photog and lens competence is separate) can capture that entire sequence with most frames in focus. But with the lame SD card in camera it may well choke about when the bird starts to dive, missing the capture and the fly-off.

              Sure one could go all day and not shoot anything until some prey is about to be hit, then take your quick pic series and hope you have your timing and focus right. But then one misses the BIF pix and the full whole capture sequence. And one misses all the practicing that the BIF shooting allowed that made you hella more prepared for the ultimate hero sequence.

              After you have some experience with modern D5/D500 capture capability, then come back and tell us how we should constrain pro bodies by putting less competent cards into them and “learn to think before you shoot.”

              And the modern camera competence described applies to all kinds of things. Certainly all moving critters like kids, dogs, horses, etc.

            • Hans J

              Ahh the spray and pray is now a “new capture methodology” got it.
              Thanks for updating me on what “pro photographers” are doing now.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Sorry Hans but until you have learned the features of a D5 or D500 or equal your commentary about “spray and pray” is just nonsense spewed through ignorance.

            • Hans J

              “And I said thanks for updating me.” I don’t know why you wrote the same thing twice and called my comment. “nonsense spewed through ignorance.”
              It’s ok pal, you can use your version of spray and pray I mean “new capture methodology” with the D5 and D500 no one is stopping you. But with a high MP camera like the one I need. That will only shoot around 5fps, SD cards will work just fine.

            • Allen_Wentz

              The need for a competent card is not simply about fps. The card is part of the in-camera i/o capture system, so at 5 fps a card may still be limiting. We will have to see empirically.

              Plus of course an SD card slows post-process workflow, especially with large files sizes.

              I called your comment “nonsense spewed through ignorance” because you rudely stated that modern technique (which you have not learned or used) is simply spray and pray. It is not.

            • Hans J

              I say to-may-to, you say to-mah-to. Its all the same at the end.
              I really hope they have two versions of the camera.

              D850F
              D850D

              F= Future Duel SD cards
              D= Dead on arrival Duel XQuitD
              That way we can both be happy.

            • PhilK

              Yeah, yanno Nikon regularly increases the capabilities of its pro and pro-sumer cameras in terms of FPS and buffer depth during each generational update because pro photographers don’t need that stuff. Same thing for sensor performance, ruggedness and durability, AF flexibility and performance, lens compatibility, etc etc.

              Hans sez: WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN PERFORMANCE UPGRADES.

              Honestly I’m surprised you’re not still shooting with a Nikkormat FT.

              [rolleyes]

            • Hans J

              I shoot my FM3a a lot.

            • PhilK

              Gee, I’m very surprised at that.

            • Hans J

              Oh ok cool. Try using a real camera one day.

            • Hans J

              Never said that.

            • Tuna

              Floyd Merriweather doesn’t have the reflexes or hand speed to take the Eagle shot described by A. Wenz without a burst. You do?

            • Hans J

              Didn’t realize Floyd Mayweather was a photographer… here I thought he was a boxer…

            • Tuna

              The point is that no human being has the hand eye coordination needed to routinely accomplish what Allen described. Heck, some things in that example happen so fast one can’t even see it. The new Nikon autofocus system and XQD cards improve ones odds of getting an awesome picture immensely.
              Furthermore, downloading a large number of pictures to the computer is much faster with XQD. When you’re in a place with lots of photo opportunities like Africa, then downloading a large number of RAW files from a 36 MP sensor (most single shots, a few 2-4 shot bursts) takes a long time. Downloading 20.9 MP files shot in a single day takes a long time.I want the fastest download speeds possible.
              Its fine that SD serves your needs, use the SD card slots or a camera with SD slots. Lots of fine options.
              But let those of us that like the extra speed of
              XQD use the faster technology. It doesn’t make your choice or mine the right one for everyone. The fastest SD cards are slower and more expensive than XQD (including downloading files to computers).
              And I don’t care if XQD is gone in 5 years, all current memory technology will be obsolete in 5 years. Given the steady increases in wireless transfer speeds, I’ll bet that wireless download will eventually replace ALL removable card technologies.

            • Hans J

              Oh gosh, why are you all fighting me? I don’t understand.
              I’m here for you! fighting for you. fighting with everything I have for you. Cant you see that. You yourself said XQuitD will be gone in 5 years. and you still want it… and I guess all those people that got those shots with Film were super human…
              guess Technology is making us regress.

            • CERO

              I think the dude is a troll now. He just seems to fallback for petty insults like that after his point gets destroyed.
              Anyway, I wonder why he invests so much bitching. He doesn’t need to do anything just stop buying XQD. Noone has a gun on his head to force him buy XQD cards. If he sees no benefit, good for him!
              But noone should put a dent on how technology evolves and improves.

              I can imagine what could have happened if camera makers listened to idiots who repeat ” no, 4Megapixels will be enough. Cameras do not need more!”

              Or if people and the silly quote assigned to Bill Gates, where he supposedly claimed all the way back in the late 80’s, how 640k of memory was “enough” for computers.

            • Hans J

              Except non of you answered my scenario. If you lose all your cards and are in some distant land. Where can you find XQuitD cards? No WHERE thats where. SD cards will always be around. and SD cards are always getting faster.

            • CERO

              Please tell me how do you lose “all your cards” ?
              Do you remove both your cards from your camera too?
              Your scenario is a bs nitpicking fallacy.

            • Hans J

              Murphy’s law!!! I have science on my side 🙂 your play? thought so =)

            • CERO

              lol, you try way too hard.

            • Hans J

              And thats why I always get the shot. 😉

            • CERO

              really? tell me more! (note fake enthusiasm) 😀

            • Hans J

              hmm, your lost. Again I’m here fighting for you. I’ve been shooting for 12 years I’ve seen it all, I know what works and what does not work. To quote Tron “I FIGHT FOR THE USERS”
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QFg9CvgIYI

            • CERO

              Murphy’s law isn’t even science…

            • Hans J

              Physicist: The mathematical statement of Murphy’s Law, as used in scientific communities, is tremendously complex. But the common form, “everything that can go wrong will”, is fairly accurate and more than sufficient for most applications. The short answer is: yes, Murphy’s Law is real

            • Hans J

              Murphy’s law: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

            • PhilK

              You can’t simultaneously claim that SD is superior because of A) consistency, and B) some new SD spec (which is CONSTANTLY changing, BTW) has high performance but your old cameras can’t take advantage of it.

              Makes no difference if the new cards still say “SD” on them but you can’t use the newer generation capabilities. In such a case you’ll STILL need to change something – but this time it’s your expensive cameras instead of your cheap SD cards. 😉

            • Hans J

              Canon 5dsr Fujifilm Xt2 Fuji gfx Sony A9 all use SD cards and not XQuitD. That’s why I’m here to save you from little knowledge

            • PhilK

              You’re not saving anything but (trying to save) your own paper-thin ego.

              It’s OK, we’re used to seeing that these days.

            • Hans J

              I know what’s best for you. Trust me.

            • PhilK

              Troll.

            • Hans J

              If my comments hurt your poor snowflake feelings. Please don’t read them and go to your safe place and hide from the world while adults talk. Bye.

            • Hans J

              I used the latest gear always. I don’t have a problem with money. I’m fighting for you to save money.

        • silmasan

          Watch the green light. And then watch the rest of the video.

          • Hans J

            Look if you can’t get the “shot” with 200 shots in a row then only have to wait 2 seconds to take another 200 shots. then you should “XQuitD” photography.

            • Vaggelis Atropus

              you go ahead and buy class 4 16gb cards all you want

            • silmasan

              Lookie who’s so obsessed over something they don’t even use. I’m fine with the slower SD fyi, the uhs-ii sounds like bad value anyway.

            • Hans J

              I’m here trying to save you dude. I’m on the side of the customers. The XQuitD cards are not going to be around much longer.

            • silmasan

              You’re not even making sense… The reason why I don’t use xqd yet is only because D810 doesn’t use it. If I’m a D5/D500 kind of guy, I’d already have it. D820 will have either XQD or XQD-compatible CFexpress slot. That’s my bet. You bet on its death. Fine. Let’s see.

            • Hans J

              Lets say you are traveling abroad. and your memory cards fail get lost etc. You can just go to any rite aid or 7/11 and always find SD but not XQuitD.

              Please for the love of all that is good, please nikon just use SD cards.

            • silmasan

              No problem.. I’m sure the D820 is going to have XQD + SD slots anyway.

              D5/xqd owners should def stock up, be well prepared or they don’t have business doing what they do.

              And you can’t complain about price either since as of now the slower uhs-ii sd cards are actually more expensive than the faster xqd cards…

            • PhilK

              Yanno it’s funny: CF died because it’s based on a dead-end interface standard that is no longer being developed: IDE. But it had a good long run.

              So the CompactFlash association came up with a new replacement, called it “Cfast”. Based it on the SATA interface standard instead of IDE. (Canon adopted this eg in the EOS-1Dx)

              But now it looks like Cfast will be dead too because SATA is looking to be dead soon itself. All those Canon shooters who switched will have to switch again. (Cue crocodile tears)

              Whereas the companies who developed XQD (Sony, Nikon and Sandisk) had the foresight to design it around the industry-standard PCI-Express bus, and have already upgraded it to a newer version once.

              What is the proposed replacement for Cfast? A card called CFexpress which uses the same physical package and PCI-Express bus as XQD. LOL.

              So, which format seems more “forward looking” now?

              I suspect XQD will eventually be upgraded again to v3.0, too, when the need arises.

            • Hans J

              If canon uses XQD then that would be a good thing.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Nonsense. The fact that you can still cheaply buy Beta tape and floppy disks was pointed out to you days ago.

            • Hans J

              To quote Spy Black
              “Note that even defunct products like Beta tape and floppy disks remain cheaply available for overnight delivery.”

              The flaw in that argument is that those mediums were used in tens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of products, that were sold to millions, sometimes billions of people.

              In contrast, XQD is used in FOUR still cameras, and a similar number of video cameras, whose user based is very small, especially on the video camera side. XQD can die tomorrow, and essentially only you, ITN, and Thom Hogan will be crying about it.

            • Hans J

              ALSO, Lets say you are traveling abroad. and your memory cards fail get lost etc. You can just go to any rite aid or 7/11 and always find SD but not XQuitD.
              Please for the love of all that is good, please nikon just use SD cards.
              Allen can’t you see I’m fighting for you! yes I’m on your side I’m looking out for YOU the customer. I know what you need and want.
              Don’t fight me.

            • CERO

              You know you can use any standard cellphone USB cable to connect the camera to a laptop , right?

            • Hans J

              and then what? Shoot with a laptop hanging off the camera in the field?

            • CERO

              Congratulations on missing the point completely!

            • Hans J

              And what was the point? that you can buy a USB cable. we are talking about memory cards. Last time I checked NO one carried XQuitD cards except a few specialized camera stores.

            • CERO

              You can buy SD cards anywhere but there is almost ZERO chance that they will be pro grade or with fast speeds need for photography.
              They will be cheap consumer with low reliability.
              I was mentioning the cable as a backup to transfer the files.
              Besides, how do your memories get “lost” if the you’re using it?
              Unless you’re a fan of a ton of tiny 16GB individual cards.
              Stolen? you’re most likely lose your lenses AND the camera itself than the darn memory cards. Noone cares much about memory cards nowadays because of the low price and availability everywhere.

            • Hans J

              When you have zero memory cards vs a slow memory card and need to get the shot no matter what. The slow one will be better then the fastest one thats not available. Thats basic Logic. See I’m here to help you understand the world. Don’t worry bro I got you. I’ll always be here to hold your hand.

            • Tuna

              Neither will SD cards. Storage media is constantly changing. XQD will be around as long as current generation of cameras are in use. People compare them to Betamax. Well, the competitor VHS is gone now, too. And their replacement, CD’s are almost gone. First generation memory flash drives are useless now.

            • Hans J

              No, SD cards will never go away. Its basically a USB port

            • PhilK

              No, they are not. The SD interface is proprietary and has nothing to do with USB.

            • Hans J

              Same thing. USB = SD

            • PhilK

              No it is not. Stop posting nonsense you have no idea about.

            • Hans J

              Same tech

            • CERO

              Just because you do not have any need of these, it does not means that technology should stop evolving just for clowns like you.

              I’ve seen the same kind stupid arguments as yours of “its fine for me, thus therefore noone should do better things or different things”.

              Infact, there were a group of people complaining that “This camera and 4k are a gimmick, they should just stick to X thing” in the rumors of new nikon cameras thread.

              Stay if you want, just stop trying to slow down those who want things to improve.

            • Hans J

              Who’s the clown that can’t get “the shot” with-in 400 shots? So go XQuitD your life.

            • Proto

              lol. they gotta have XQD. never mind if the camera sits in their bag most of the time or comes out during their disney trip.

            • CERO

              Man, you really have some sort of inferiority complex all because you hate a memory format. grow up.
              You dont like it? DONT USE IT.

            • Hans J

              haha me grow up? who’s the grown up who started with the personal attacks? please don’t read my comments if they hurt your feelings and make you cry.

            • CERO

              Do you even read the crap you write before you reply? Its pretty ironic, considering you called me a clown first and flaunted your supposed shooting skills by then pointing a finger at me (who you know nothing) and then attacking me by claiming I cant take a photo within 400 shots.

            • Hans J

              I think before anything you need to learn how to read.
              You said: “that technology should stop evolving just for clowns like you.”
              I said “Who’s the clown? ”
              I didn’t say you where the clown I asked a question.
              And you instantly took to the title.
              So PLEASE keep the name calling to yourself, Clown. And YES now I am calling you a clown.

            • CERO

              “learn to read”. I only read that you love to use fallacies (including nitpicking and cherrypicking) to make up your point. You clearly implied that I was a clown who couldn’t get a shot in 400 photos.
              A lot of implications for someone who has serious mental instability all because of a single memory format issue.

            • Hans J

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71ae3058b84454f6eb175f6d9ace13f483981bf219d969a5a7344fa0b850cdf0.png
              Again I asked a question… you started the name calling. See I highlighted it for you. AND the 400 shots thing was directed at silmasan.
              But instantly you took offense because I must have triggered your poor feelings. Sorry I said those mean things to someone else and you got caught in the cross fire some how.

            • Proto

              To really speed up, Nikon should have dual XQD, or leave it at standard speed dual SD. Having both is far less useful.

            • CERO

              Transitions are like that, they do step by step to prevent people not having the technology at hand.
              Technology types will rise and die as standards get cohesive and tech advances, all because of multiple factors.
              Look at betamax, despite its superiority. VHS won thanks to something not many knew.. like the porno industry.

      • John Albino

        Actually, I think we all may be looking at this from the wrong direction. IMO, if Nikon *really* cared about what its users would find best, rather than (figuratively speaking) simply doing the old metaphor of throwing s**t at the wall to see what sticks (ie, putting two different and incompatible card formats in the same camera and waiting to see which wins, they would step up their game to *truly* modern tech and include 5G wireless, Gigabit Ethernet AND USB 3.1+ (Superspeed Plus, also known a Usb 3.1+ Gen 2) which has 10Gbit/s speed.

        Each of those is far superior to XQD, IMO. For example, on my home network (FiOS) i have Gigabit wired Ethernet, and 5G on the wireless router, and I routinely get 85-95 Gbits/s upload and download on my two-year-old-plus Samsung S5 phone.

        In a way both Hans J and the rest of you are both right in your desires for one type of card, but IMO, you’re missing the boat on putting pressure on Nikon to put the type of modern tech REALLY important in today’s world into their cameras.

        • CERO

          The problem is that these wireless modes do use a lot of power. Same for ethernet (and it would require a pretty big connector slot)

          • John Albino

            Yeah, but that’s not a *real* impediment. If implemented correctly, each of those connections would be activated only on demand, turned off otherwise, and the *USER* would make the decision whether or not to use each/any/all.

            Why should *WE* (the CUSTOMER) be limited by arbitrary decisions made by the system provider?

            Besides, according to Green Energy Enthusiasts, we are “on the verge” of “tremendous” advances in battery capability ;=)

            • CERO

              Depends, if the camera is already reaching the limits of the standardized battery packs we have(like the Nikon D500). They will need to make a new battery pack (and it will annoy some people as their older batteries will be rendered useless)

            • John Albino

              No worse than annoying some people by changing card types….. 🙂 🙂 🙂

            • CERO

              depends, most of the time there are “backwards compatibility” in terms of card types.
              I dont think the SD standard will disappear anyway.

      • Mike A

        Completely Agree! Twin XQD is the only way to go! As for the “XQD Obsoleters” – All cameras are obsolete two or three years after announcement – so Hell, don’t be a cheap A**, and just buy a few XQD cards and have them on hand to last the life of the camera… It’s not that difficult like people are trying to make it out on here. I think I already solved this great problem for my D500…

        • John Albino

          A big problem with that theory is we’re entering into the Age of the Last Camera — plenty of us are old enough that we’ve either already bought our “last camera” or the next one we buy will BE our last camera.

          In addition, sensor tech has gotten so good that now even a five-year-old camera is capable of making excellent images. No more need to buy anything new any more.

          So, for the vast majority of the camera-using population, cameras no longer are “obsolete” in just two or three years.

          And that’s a big reason why the camera makers are failing…

  • Michiel953

    Interesting for those rattling away their (the D500 in particular is very impressive in these vids) shots, not so much for us traditional D8xx stills shooters.

    • Allen_Wentz

      The combination of all the D500 features make for new ways to shoot. I look forward to seeing what the new D8xx provides.

      The new competence does not make traditional stills less good but it does open new capture opportunities.

      • Michiel953

        True.

  • CaMeRa QuEsT

    Amazing that Lexar themselves will show you that their 633x UHS-I cards are way slower than competitor’s similar cards. I found out the hard way by myself when I bought a pair of Lexar 128GB 633x cards a couple months ago, they are way slower than my 3 years old, purportedly 2nd tier brand PNY 64GB UHS-I, should have bought PNY again, as I haven’t had any issues with them.

  • Robert Smith

    I am struggling to interpret those results. I must be missing something here.

    Just looking at the first part of each video comparing UHS-I and UHS-II with 14bit raw:
    D500, UHS-I, 14bit raw, 39 frames in 08:46
    D7500, UHS-I, 14bit raw, 38 frames in 30:55
    OK. The D500 is much faster than the D7500. That’s fine. They both claim expeed 5, but the D500 is the higher spec camera. A difference that big implies that it is the camera that is limiting bandwidth, not the card. The same UHS-I card in two cameras gives a factor of three difference.

    And yet the D7500 manages
    D7500, UHS-II, 14bit raw, 51 frames in 10:00
    So that shows the camera itself can push images through as fast as the D500. It implies that the card is limiting the D7500.

    Surely these numbers are contradictory? What is actually limiting the bandwidth of the D7500? If the UHS-I can do as well as it does in the D500 and the D7500 can exploit the benefits of the UHS-II, that seems to imply that the limiting factor is neither the camera nor the card alone, but some sort of incompatibility or inefficiency in the way the D7500 is accessing the UHS-I. What am I missing?

    • Allen_Wentz

      1) Yes the various camera electronics (buffer, bus, etc.) have major impact on performance in addition to the limitations imposed by different camera cards. IMO each camera/cards combination needs to be separately empirically tested.

      2) You mention only SD. XQD improves performance a lot when it is available. Photogs who want to maximize D500 performance pull the lame SD card.

      The Japanese descriptions of the videos were confusing to me because I do not speak Japanese.

      • Robert Smith

        Thanks for your comments everyone. I think it is true that life is a little more complicated than just reading the specs. I do see the same with my own camera and humber spec. SD cards. Performance from different cards in camera and in a computer do not really reflect the ratings of each card type.

        And yes, I fully accept Allen’s comment 3. I was only talking about the SD performance and it was unfair wording to just say D7500 was “as fast as” D500.

    • James Michael

      Nikon’s performance is very disappointing. I looked at USB read speed of the D500 and D7500, and both are abysmal. If you take the card out of the camera and put it in a computer the speed is double or triple. If a cheap USB to SD adapter is a lot faster than plugging in the camera directly, that is bad design. I put the blame 100% on Nikon.

      If reads are bad, then writing???

      • Allen_Wentz

        Look at actual performance with XQD in a D500 and you see no bad design. Any bad design revolves around the use of lame SD.

        • James Michael

          I need SD. XQD is not worth it to me. I am not a spray and pray button masher, so my buffer almost never gets full.

          • Hans J

            Well said. Same here dude.

          • D700s

            Lets design all cameras and cards to your pref then. Who cares what others need or want.

            • James Michael

              If Nikon designed cameras 100% to my preferences then they would not be in trouble. I want what 95% of the people need in a camera.

              The reality is that most people don’t need XQD. They do need: A card you can buy at Walmart. A card you can plug directly into almost every laptop. A card that works in almost every other camera on the planet. If it is a little slower, so what. There is not enough extra performance to justify using a proprietary card format.

            • PhilK

              Most people seem to imagine that their thinking applies to most everyone else.

              Unfortunately, that’s rarely true.

            • James Michael

              Then it is a good thing that I am not most people.

  • RaySweeting

    Hasn’t Lexar stopped making memory cards?

    • nwcs

      It’s in the process of being sold/dissolved but there are still millions and millions of cards out there and many unsold ones.

  • JPaul Johnson

    Here’s a fun idea, make an adapter for the XQD slot that will hold the SD card.

  • SkyMeow

    I had D4 and now I have D5. So far, I have never ever burst shot enough to completely fill the buffer. Speed of the card doesn’t mean much to me as long as the cards are fast enough, which they are.

    When I travel around the world, sometimes I need to buy new cards. XQD card is never available at little local camera stores I have visited so far. They always have SD and CF cards. That was one of the annoyances when I was using D4.

    When I bought my D5 when it just came out, I went with CF version instead of XQD. I was very lucky enough that I was able to buy it at $600 cheaper when everybody had to buy it full retail price for either model. Special price that I got was big deciding factor but availability of CF card at any place around the world was another important factor for me. If I ever start filling my D5 buffer, I’ll have Nikon swap the card slots to XQD. However, it looks very unlikely that I’ll need to do that.

  • CERO

    Declaring victory on the internet and claiming a stupid crusader does not make you better, just makes you a bumbling moron in a self appointed useless crusade.

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