Major Nikon D500 firmware upgrade rumored to be released in August or September

Nikon D500 camera guts parts
A major Nikon D500 firmware upgrade with over 20 fixes is rumored to be released in August or September. I do not have any details what exactly will be included.

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  • Nikos Delhanidis

    i had hopes for first half of July ….

  • MattfromNikon

    Uuuugh…now that’s a rumor we’ve been waiting for. Almost sounds there might even be an official recall in the air…..hopefully not the same farce as with the D750.

    • D700s

      If it’s a recall it will surprise me since I haven’t had a problem with my camera yet. Let’s look at the positive and expect something good like focus peeking or the like.

      • MattfromNikon

        Yes, I’m very positive and looking forward to the update that fixes 20 issues.

      • MattfromNikon

        And for the record. I doubt Nikon will ever again make the same mistake they did with the D750. The fiasco with the D750 is the worst in the entire history of Nikon DSLR cameras (not even the D600 oil spot problem was that bad).

        • nwcs

          The D750 wasn’t a disaster or fiasco. The 2 big issues that were “recalled” were actually fairly minor and only impacted people doing very specific things. I’d say oil and debris trumps contre-jour flare and Auto FP flash.

          • MattfromNikon

            Perhaps you’re a D750 fan boy and you just got your D750.
            Congratulations on your purchase. I respect your opinion but the D750 and its issues will go down in history. Far worse than the oil spots on the D600.

            The Internet is full of reports such as “Err” lock ups, flare issues, faulty shutter mechanisms and replacement of faulty shutter….the list goes on.
            It’s true that some bodies are perhaps not affected but that was also the case with the D600.
            Nikon has made 3 or 4 official recalls on the D750 and the service centers around the world are getting flooded with shutter replacements according to a Nikon rep I talked to a few months ago.

            You said: ” were actually fairly minor and only impacted people doing very specific things”.
            I couldn’t disagree more to that statement.
            The faulty shutter mechanism does not allow you to shoot at 1/4000sec. and if you do the camera will lock up and show “Err” messages and the only way to get out of this is to remove the battery.
            Most photographers uses 1/4000sec. which is the max on the enthusiast D750. 1/4000sec. is not even enough to freeze tennis balls and basket balls on some occasions so I think it certainly can not be described as something “people doesn’t use very often”.

            • Spy Black

              “The Internet is full of reports such as “Err” lock ups, flare issues, faulty shutter mechanisms and replacement of faulty shutter….the list goes on.”

              So that’s where you get your “facts” from? The Internet?

            • MattfromNikon

              Yes partly and at least to some extent, some of those web sites are actually quite reliable and also Nikon has web sites themselves that has reported these problems.

              Furthermore I have talked to service centers for example on the east coast and the impression is that: they are flooded with shutter replacements….

              For example here is one reliable web-site:

              http://www.lightandmatter.org/2016/news-2/industry-news/more-bum-nikon-cameras-recalled/

            • Chris

              D750’s problem mainly affects 1-2 batches of D750 only. Many people surfer from both issues. If you are not among that batch you are free of problem.

            • MattfromNikon

              I think it’s a little more than that….sorry to say.

              Nikon has recognized that units produced between December 2014 and June of 2015 were also affected, adding up to a nine month span of shoddy craftsmanship.

              please see here:

              http://www.lightandmatter.org/2016/news-2/industry-news/more-bum-nikon-cameras-recalled/

              and here:

              https://nikonrumors.com/2016/04/26/new-nikon-d750-err-shutter-issue-reported-online.aspx/

            • Chris

              It is not what you think it might be. Most people are either hit by both problems, or hit by none.

            • MattfromNikon

              Naaah, everyone who are not living in denial knows about all the issues connected to the D750. Someone who thinks that the issues in the D750 are not serious must be insane.

              https://nikonrumors.com/2016/04/26/new-nikon-d750-err-shutter-issue-reported-online.aspx/

            • Marc P.

              Clickbait for your own personal website, it seems. The writing style on this site isn’t serious, more like “The Register”.

            • MattfromNikon

              Hahaha…just concentrate on writing your half assed articles and hopefully someone will click on your clickbait shit recommendations lol
              Everyone knows about that already and someone who believes all that crap must be insane πŸ˜€

            • Marc P.

              You don’t know me. But what sort of Crap you do write here is beyond words – you’re quite sure a psychopath. I’d seek medical health, if i’d be you.

              I don’t link to any kind of clickbait, in difference to you.

            • MattfromNikon

              Hahaha…clearly some self projection there.
              Only a fool would make that type of a statement after being refuted lol.
              Everyone knows about the vast issues with the crappy shutter on the D750 and many other issues as well. Only someone who is insane would deny it as you have done lol.
              I bet you never had a proper job in your life lol….

            • Marc P.

              Never argue with trolls. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

              I bet you never had a real life besides your virtual one here.

            • MattfromNikon

              Just self projection from a fan boy and troll lol

            • MattfromNikon

              Just more self projection lol. Everyone knows that the D750 is shit…lol

              More facts for you who live in denial and keep trolling these messages boards like a typical fanboy.

              Nikon has recognized that units produced between December 2014 and June of 2015 were also affected, adding up to a nine month span of shoddy craftsmanship.http://www.lightandmatter.org/2016/news-2/industry-news/more-bum-nikon-cameras-recalled/

            • MattfromNikon
            • MattfromNikon

              Alright guys…I’m just gonna throw this one out there: Marc P. is a spam and troll account πŸ˜€

            • Marc P.

              what (in)human piece are you? 4 replies – and always your lame homepage post about that D750 issue. You’re a NR Spambot, and i don’t talk with trolls like you anymore longer. Get a life, and better get lost. The Admin should delete your crappy troll account – you just spam, and consequently repeating always the same crap – nothing more, nothing less. how dumb.

            • MattfromNikon

              Yesterday they deleted a troll and spammer like yourself here on NR. Soon they will also find your spam and troll account lol.

              Sorry that you didn’t make it in photography and instead you spend your entire day on Internet message boards spreading lies and abusing others with personal attacks and condescending behaviour.

              If it makes you feel better you could try to get your shitty D750 replaced at change.com.

              They have started a petition for those D750 who are affected:
              https://www.change.org/p/nikon-nikon-should-change-the-750d-affected-cameras-not-to-refurbished-them

            • MattfromNikon

              Now they finally deleted some of your abusive and condescending comments. Beware so that they don’t kick you out altogether because of your abuse and spam. This is a friendly community for those who are able to disagree in a nice way. I hope you can get your D750 replaced because of all the issues and recalls. You can sign a petition here: https://www.change.org/p/nikon-nikon-should-change-the-750d-affected-cameras-not-to-refurbished-them

            • MattfromNikon

              Hahaha…clearly some self projection there.
              Only a fool would make that type of a statement after being refuted lol.
              Everyone knows about the vast issues with the crappy shutter on the D750 and many other issues as well. Only someone who is insane would deny it as you have done lol.
              I bet you never had a proper job in your life lol….

            • Marc P.

              I don’t have a D750 – and compared to you, i don’t spent the whole day to reply and re-write always the same Spam to others. Everybody here know’s your a psych and only flooding [NR] with spam and trolling around. Get a life!

            • Nikos Skartsilas

              I could not agree more. And think that Nikon claimed before the anouncement that D750 is an action camera !

            • MattfromNikon

              Far from an action camera…lol. Nowadays it’s a recall camera lol.

            • nwcs

              Whatever dude. You have a chip on your shoulder for some reason. And your only way of refuting me is calling me a fan boy. You clearly have no idea if I am or not. Doesn’t matter, though. Go on and believe every internet report out there. We all know the internet does not lie or mislead. And your interpretation of the recall is incorrect.

              And, you know what? You buy the tool for the job. I doubt many pros would use a D750 for capturing tennis or basketball, lol. If they bought the wrong tool then it’s all on them.

            • MattfromNikon

              No chip on my shoulder at least.
              Even Nikon has made several official apologies because of the shoddy craftsmanship connected to the D750 so don’t blame me for it lol….
              The more I read your stuff it seems you have a personal agenda connected to the D750 and also you’re living in denial….
              The D750 has had several issues whether you refuse to accept that or not….couldn’t really care less πŸ˜€

            • D700s

              Jump over to Canon and get you one of those new 1dxmkii’s they are having problems with. Then you won’t have a nikon problem.

            • MattfromNikon

              I already shoot with both Nikon and Canon and Fuji lol but thank you for the advice πŸ˜€

            • nwcs

              I’m sure you’re right. All trolls are right.

            • MattfromNikon

              Hahahaha…when you get emotional you steep to insults…because you’re clearly a typical fanboy LOL The D750 is most likely your first FF camera LOL
              Don’t forget to check your serial number LOL

            • CERO

              You really need to stop a moment and look at what verbal diarrhea you have been posting.
              “LOLOLOLOL, FANBOY.. EMOTIONAL… TYPICAL FANBOY.. TROLL”.
              It almost feels like you’re ragging and have nothing to counter. So you have to pull fallacies or insults to stay afloat. Are you below the age of 15 years old?
              Thats what it look like after reading all your 4chan-esque dialogue in this thread.

            • MattfromNikon

              Oh “CERO” You’re hurting my feelings…lol
              Looking back at your own history and your comments here on disquz it seems your verbal diarrhea is far worse than mine.
              My words that I’ve used like, “lol”, “fanboy” and “troll” seems almost nice compared to some of the words you’ve been using in some of the threads.
              Thank God somebody warned me about people like yourself lol πŸ˜€
              Are you below 14 or an adult with issues?

            • Don’t feed the troll. He has some kind of animosity directed towards D750 specifically. Maybe he has a problem with his.

            • MattfromNikon

              Not a troll just telling the truth. Sorry if you have had issues with yours πŸ˜€
              Uuuugh so many trolls here who clearly have a inferiority complex with their enthusiast bodies lol

            • We don’t base our complexes on the type of bodies we use. And we certainly do not base others’ level according to the bodies that they use. Btw I use D800e and never had a D750 FYI.

            • MattfromNikon

              Surely the equipment (camera bodies) plays a very important role and Nikon has acknowledged that in their DSLR lineup. That’ why they have two main production lines….the enthusiast and the pro body production line. And those who uses any of these bodies are neither better or worse than any other.

            • MattfromNikon

              Stop being a troll and a monkey yourself πŸ˜€
              I have nothing against any Nikon camera body. They are all made for different purposes and users….
              Currently I’m shooting a D3S, D800E and D4S but also Fuji and Canon JFYI….Geeez this web page is so funny….full of trolls and people with personal agendas.

            • decentrist

              I have enjoyed my D750 with no issues…it is the best general purpose FX Nikon body produced.

            • MattfromNikon

              Congratulations on your purchase….maybe it’s the best for you but not for everybody…..
              Because of a limited and weak buffer (same as the D610/D600) and it maxes out at only 1/4000sec. which is not even enough to freeze tennis balls and basket balls and also the crippled buttons & controls layout. 1/200 sync speed and a few other annoyances πŸ˜€
              But if it works for you then it’s ok but many photographers requires much more from a body in order to call it “best general purpose”.
              Having so many serious issues doesn’t also help at all….

            • decentrist

              I’ve shot many NBA games from under the basket using a D40/35mmf/1.8G. You seriously need to get some perspective.

            • MattfromNikon

              I have shot sports too with the D3000 πŸ˜€
              Get a grip and move on πŸ˜€

            • decentrist

              you are projecting…no one likes whining

            • MattfromNikon

              Don’t whine and take a short course in photography lol

            • Captain Insane-O

              Mine syncs to 1/4000. It’s called HSS.

              There is virtually no difference between 1/250 & 1/200 in cutting down ambient light. You should complain that the d500 doesn’t have Nikon’s best shutter, 1/16,000 & 1/500 sync.

              Apparently all sports are confined by the photographic limits of tennis and basketball, which the d750 works quite well with considering I’ve shot both it and it had no problem.

            • MattfromNikon

              Hahaha….the fanboy is trolling….if you could afford a real pro body you would understand. Run back to mommy now and tell her that you were tricked into believing that the D750 is a pro body even if it’s not even better than the D610/D600 at high ISO lol Also the buffer on the D750 is just simply garbage lol and also all the recalls and issues. You should get a D3S instead lol. Stop trolling here and misleading people lol

            • jarmatic

              The comment feeds on Nikon Rumors are some of the most educational of the ones I follow. You sir, are condescending, offensive and make more personal attacks than anyone I’ve read in quite awhile. Please keep it professional and respectful. Trying to hurt someone based on their income level, or excitability/loyalty to a brand is low brow. Your behavior lacks decency and respect. It is a sign of maturity and intelligence to know when to stop talking and end the argument. Take this opportunity and be better.

            • MattfromNikon

              That’s not the way it went down…these trolls attacked me first and then some of their abusive comments was deleted by the admin who responded to their abusive behaviour.
              If you don’t know the whole story don’t get involved.
              As far as I’m concerned the argument is already finished.

            • jarmatic

              Claim fully appraised of the situation. It is clearly not ended. . You’re still talking. And their bad but having does not excuse yours. Stop making excuses.

            • Alex Thomas

              Best shutter is a relative comment – 10fps for most SPORTS shooters equates to a FAR better shutter than 1/16000 or a high sync rate which are both unusual studio or artsy-type requirements.

            • Captain Insane-O

              If 1/4000 isn’t enough to freeze a basketball which travels at the most 40mph, then 1/8000 is no where near fast enough to freeze a 100mph baseball.

              My d750 does not have any problems, and it actually freezes basketballs very nicely.

              Assuming a 100 mph object, you have 146.666 feet per second, times 12 you get 1,760 inches per second, divided by 4000 gives you .44 inches moved.

              Looking at photos of 1/1000 for baseball I’m confident my 1/4000 will be more than sufficient if I ever choose to shoot a fast ball.

            • StevenS

              On a 90 mph pitch the speed of the ball off the bat is around 110 mph. Average tennis serve ball speed is 106 mph with some higher. The top of the racket it moving in the 100 mph range. So on a tight frame, that .44 inch or more when framed tightly is clearly visible.

            • Captain Insane-O

              It’s clearly not. There are plenty of samples to illustrate lower shutter speeds freeze the action.

              How fast do basketballs fly?

              Tennis balls aren’t even moving 100 mph by the time they reach the opponent, nor do baseballs.

              What tightly framed shot? Of a tennis ball filling the while frame? I’m not good enough to get that so I’m fine.

            • StevenS

              I’m speaking from personal experience. With a pitcher it isn’t as much of an issue, especially if photographing from behind the cage. If photographing a ball coming off a bat, 1/4000 is a bare minimum or there is motion in the ball. For tennis, it’s 1/6000. At that exposure when the ball is hitting the racket, the individual strands of fuzz are clearly visible as the ball spinning causes the fuzz to fly outward and can be seen protruding through the netting on the racket. Anything slower and I am seeing motion in the ball. I have done this on a dx body with a 300 f4. Maybe others mileage varies, but my experience is as above.

            • Captain Insane-O

              Everyone has their own preferences as well.

              Best I’ve ever shot was Long Beach state’s women tennis team with auto iso keeping the shutter above 1/2000. I never had a problem, but they aren’t 1/3 of the speed as Maria sharapova.

              Fuzz wouldn’t be a problem as it’s not moving close to that speed. Laws of physics are in play.

              But anyways, I’m sure some pixel peepers will complain about motion blur at 1/8000.

              Closest I’ve gotten would be a little wider than a full body portrait with a 200 f2.8, so I’m sure that affects a lot of my need.

              But it’s clearly disingenuous to say 1/4000 isn’t enough for basketball. Going back to the troll I was addressing

              And I was going to bring up your relative angle to the motion but didn’t feel like adding another argument, so I’m glad we are upon that.

            • StevenS

              I did edit my comment to reflect that not all sports need that shutter speed. I was only speaking to baseball and tennis. I wasn’t trying to add any fuel to the fire either. I have had this conversation with some local contemporaries before and it is more of a continuation in my view. The way I feel about equipment is different tools for different situations. A one size fits all is almost always too much of a compromise. I have a d800 and will not use it for sports. It’s not the optimal tool for the job. I’m not saying one can’t use it for sports. It’s just I have other, more appropriate bodies available for the task. The d750 is a fine camera. In many ways more appropriate than the d800/d810. In other situations it could be the other way around.

            • Captain Insane-O

              Yeah I understand. I edited mine to say I was addressing not just you.

              If I were a sports pro I’d be purchasing a D5, it’s really a dumb argument to claim a d750 being a great pure sports camera.

              But the 1/4000 shutter only affects my use with my 1.8 primes in daylight.

            • MattfromNikon

              While I agree I must also say that a lot of sports (much more than just tennis and basket ball) requires a speed of 1/8000sec. That’s why Nikon has been for more than 20 years releasing pro bodies with a 1/8000sec. shutter speed.

            • StevenS

              I’ve heard humming bird wings are another high shutter speed subject. I do not have first hand experience with that however. Actually, what I have noticed is the higher speed rated shutters tend to have a higher durability rating than those that do not achieve those speeds. With film is wasn’t as big of a deal because we shot it units of 12, 20, 24 or 36 exposures. Machine gunning aside, because an exposure now costs nothing essentially in comparison to film, everyone actuates the shutter more frequently. So, naturally, higher spec’d bodies typically have more durable shutters. A design choice by the camera manufacturers. We never had 1/8000 shutters with film either. I didn’t know what I was missing until I had it. Now I want it. Fujicolor 800 was a godsend. The 1600 was still way too noisy. Now everyone is crying if they can’t achieve 12,800. But I want it too. All the advancements enable what was either difficult or impossible just a few years back. There will be more advancements. The lack of tech didn’t stop people from being creative and much often to the contrary it made them more creative because they had a physical and financial limit imposed on their capture, so they had to pre visualize more and get it right the first time or go home without the shot. I’m rambling as I have my coffee, but just thinking about how spoiled all of us are and it it more important to go out and enjoy what we have and make something new.

            • MattfromNikon

              Yes photographing hummingbirds is one art in itself. Depending on what type of result and outcome you want, you might certainly need 18000sec. for sure on several occasions. Some people prefer to have the wings blurred out and some like to experiment with wide open f/1.4 lenses and trying to get only the head of the hummingbird in focus and other parts bokeh…Some spend hours and hours trying to get the desired result. 1/8000sec. is very useful.

              Yes, higher spec’d bodies typically have more durable shutters.

              However I disagree that we didn’t have 18000sec. with film.
              For example the Nikon F5 and F6 had that speed and also 8fps with a shutter that was supposed to last 150K.
              So the speed of 1/8000sec. is quite normal for pro bodies and that speed is widely used and desired, just to adress that particular troll who didn’t have the capability to grasp that fact….maybe because his enthusiast body only does 1/4000sec.

            • StevenS

              Respectfully, your lack of age is showing:) the Hasselbalds with leaf shutters for years was 1/500. In the Nikon lineup the F was 1/1000, the F2 was 1/2000 the F3 was 1/2000, the FM2 was 1/4000. These are all titanium shutters in pro grade bodies. It wasn’t until the 90’s that the 1/8000 started coming in. The F100, F5 and current in the lineup F6 adopted the 1/8000 speed. So the F, F2 F3 and FM2 must have been amateur bodies then. Heaven forbid they were manual focus only. And of course those Hassys were complete junk with their Zeiss lenses and all:)

            • MattfromNikon

              Yes, fair enough. I might be a bit younger than you and I started with a Nikon F5 and then Nikon F6.
              However you didn’t specify which film bodies you talked about and from what year, so I just wanted to make it clear that the Nikon F5 and Nikon F6 did have a shutter speed of 1/8000sec. and that’s like almost 20 years ago and since those days all the pro bodies have had 1/8000sec.
              But yes, those older film bodies more than 20 years ago were limited to 1/1000sec. and similar speeds.

            • StevenS

              And I’m not super old either. I got into this when I was 12 and working in a fully stocked camera supply when I was 18:) A lot of pros then were resisting the electronic shutters in the F3, FE, AE1, XD-5, XD-11. They would opt for the mechanical refinement of the F2. Here’s the main thought- at working speeds of ISO 100-400 very much the main stream in the 80’s and 90’s the amount of light and fast glass needed to effectively use 1/8000 was not a mainstream need. It really wasn’t until faster films were refined enough to gain more mainstream use that 1/8000 was introduced into the cameras.

            • MattfromNikon

              Well it must have been an interesting journey for you to follow all this development. You have clearly a longer experience than what I have.
              I still take out my F5 sometimes but very rarely πŸ™‚ and I belong to the group of people that say: “in order to fully understand photography you must learn how to shoot film or have experience with film first of all”.
              I’m such a narrow minded person ;-D lol

            • MattfromNikon

              You didn’t adress anybody here…your comment just shows lack of understanding and nothing else. Very typical from someone who’s a fanboy and got his first enthusiast FF body….lol. And furthermore 1/8000sec. is not for pixel peepers at all like you trolled, but I can understand your inferiority complex because your recalled D750 can only do 1/4000sec. LOL

            • MattfromNikon

              Don’t start name-calling people trolls if you feel inferior and doesn’t agree with others.
              There’s clearly a reason why the pro bodies have a shutter speed of 1/8000sec. For 20 years now all Nikon pro bodies have had 1/8000sec. and your trolling won’t change that lol. If your weak and limited buffered D750 only does 1/4000sec. just accept it and stop trolling lol

            • CERO

              Irony.. calling others for name calling and feeling inferior “trolling”.
              While your posts reeks of immaturity, insecurity, full of namecalling and baiting.

            • MattfromNikon

              CERO….you seem so aggressive and abusive in your condescending and abusive accusations….please don’t continue πŸ˜€

            • CERO

              If that makes you sleep at night. Keep thinking that.

            • MattfromNikon

              Yes I agree….1/6000 for shots were the ball is hitting the racket.

            • MattfromNikon

              LOL the fanboy is trolling because he feels his toy isn’t good enough LOL

            • CERO

              Kinda ironic he’s now calling everyone fanboys and trolls.
              I guess he is feeling the heat now.

            • MattfromNikon

              Nope….certainly not everybody…just a couple of trolls who made the first condescending comments because they felt their toys were not big enough lol.
              Later the admin deleted their abusive comments…
              “CERO” You are trolling so much now…maybe it’s because of the summer heat πŸ˜€
              Myself I’m a nice guy who just responds to condescending behaviour….

            • CERO

              shh. Its ok to be butthurt. But not need to go insane over it.

            • MattfromNikon

              Yes Captain “Fanboy” Insane 1/4000sec is not enough as also others have stated. So don’t feel hurt if you don’t have a real “pro body” LOL

            • IanMak

              .44 inches is actually quite a lot.

            • The internet also user reviews the D750 about as high as any camera released in history.

            • MattfromNikon

              Naaah…the D750 didn’t receive any real awards by press associations and news agency organizations. Maybe some Internet bloggers gave it some good reviews just to boost their own sales with links to Adorama and Amazon….but these Internet bloggers wouldn’t last even a day as a real photojournalist out in the field. However, I’m not saying it’s a bad camera at all….just that there are much better cameras but they are also much more expensive. Sadly it has had so many issues…maybe the next D760 will be better without any shutter replacements at least.

          • The hardware problems are what they are. Every manufacturer of complex goods has recalls. In the “good old days” it was routine to have stuff break down and repair under warranty. All this “no-one tests anything any more” crap is from people who have no clue how much better tech goods have gotten.

            As for the firmware issues β€” this can be solved by Nikon actually being consistent and transparent about software issues or giving up software and installing android on their cameras and letting third parties write their software. If fujifilm ships a camera with firmware problems, customers simply assume it will be fixed. When the XE-2 shipped they back ported the software improvements to its predecessor. Today, if you produce a software driven device and your software consistently has bugs (I.e. It’s software) then you release fixes and, ideally, upgrades.

        • Ineedmy Bobo

          Every latest release problem always seems like the worst. Remember the D800 focusing issue? The D200 banding issue?

          • MattfromNikon

            Yes I remember them very well….for example the D800 focusing issue wasn’t even close to all the issues on the D750.
            Just a simple firmware update fixed the focusing issue on the D800.
            The issues on the D750 far more serious than the issues on the D800 (only a simple firmware update)

            • nwcs

              No, the firmware for the D810 fixed the long exposure noise. D800 required sending to Nikon to have them reload AF table data. Get your recalls correct at least.

            • MattfromNikon

              No, the firmware version 1.02 included the white dot fix that reduces the white dots that occurred very rarely on long exposures shooting only in 1.2x mode.

              Anyway I’d rather have white dots on long exposures than several recalls connected to flare issues, “Err” messages, lock ups and total unreliability and even shutter replacements on brand new D750 bodies coming out of the factory πŸ˜€

              Talking about the fixes for the D800/D810 and D750 they are so different….it’s like talking night and day πŸ˜€

              Sorry if you’re a fan boy for the D750 but get your facts correct first. And check your serial number…I think you’re affected πŸ˜€

              Here is some facts for you:

              Nikon has recognized that units produced between December 2014 and June of 2015 were also affected, adding up to a NINE MONTH SPAN OF SHODDY CRAFTMANSHIP. πŸ˜€
              http://www.lightandmatter.org/2016/news-2/industry-news/more-bum-nikon-cameras-recalled/

            • nwcs

              Lol, you must be of that generation of the permanently offended. The one that can’t bear to hear any other viewpoint and when encountered must be shouted down. Added you to the ignore list. Thanks for helping me eliminate another ranter.

            • MattfromNikon

              Mommy my D750 is affected LOL

            • brian valente

              trolling or not that is funny lol

            • MattfromNikon

              Not trolling at all, just having some fun with some fanboys who are having a hard time admitting that their enthusiast bodies are not truly meant for pro work LOL. And when they feel hurt all they can do is start naming people trolls because they feel insecure and inferior. They basically can’t accept that they have in many ways inferior gear….

            • Spy Black

              A “pro” camera is any camera in the hands of a pro.

            • MattfromNikon

              True at least to some extent, but cameras and their capabilities do vary a lot….and some are more suitable and better than other cameras….also professional photographers demand more from their gear….

            • Spy Black

              Any camera is meant for pro work the moment it’s in the hands of a pro, whether it’s a D750, or the Panasonic GM5 that’s in my pocket right now.

            • MattfromNikon

              LOL No matter how you twist and bend it, still some cameras are much better and more suitable for pro work than some other cameras…
              I know you get the point already but you just like to play with words lol.

              For example the D3S is a much better camera than your Panasonic GM5 in every respect lol (and you know this yourself)

              And some cameras are truly not meant for pro work….you can ask both Nikon and Canon….they have both two different line ups….one for pro and one for enthusiast photographers…but that doesn’t mean people can’t use their cameras any way they choose to.
              You can ask the manufacturers if you don’t want to accept that fact.
              Not all cameras are meant for pro work lol
              It’s almost like saying that all cars are meant for Formula One lol

            • Spy Black

              “It’s almost like saying that all cars are meant for Formula One lol”

              Nope, not at all. That’s a specific spec, a formula. Doesn’t apply in professional photography. I’ve shot plenty of paid professional gigs, product photography, fashion, photo-compositional work, etc. with “consumer” cameras.

              Any camera becomes a pro camera the moment it’s in the hands of a pro.

            • MattfromNikon

              Nope…lol
              Even if a pro uses a “consumer camera” it is still a “consumer camera”.
              He/she might get the job done without any problems what so ever, but he could also fail because a pro camera with pro features could have been more suitable and meant for the job.
              A pro can shoot with a “consumer camera” but on several occasions he might have wished he’d used a “pro camera” πŸ˜€
              Nothing wrong with using either camera anyway as long as you get the job done…..however some pro cameras are more suitable and meant for a particular job πŸ˜€
              If you don’t like the expressions: “pro camera” and “enthusiast camera” and you would like that all toys are created equal then you could actually contact Nikon and continue the conversation with them lol

            • Spy Black

              You’re obviously not a pro.

            • MattfromNikon

              lol Seems you’re running out of smart words so soon…when it was just about to get interesting you start with some self projection.
              Gods sake man don’t reveal more about your sad life lol.
              Naah…based on the time you spend here on this forum and the stuff you say I think you’re not even 10% the pro I am lol.
              Now sod off and take some selfies with your selfie stick ;-D

            • Spy Black

              Professionals don’t go ridiculing and berating people for their choice of working gear like you’ve done here with NWCS and others. However you’re free to continue with your diatribes here (at least until the Admin may decide he’s had enough of you). Everyone here knows quite well what you are and, more importantly, what you aren’t.

              Feel free to flame on…

            • MattfromNikon

              Naah…just defending myself against trolls with condescending and even abusive comments πŸ˜€
              You were the one who started with your condescending behaviour the same way you always do when someone disagrees to your opinion πŸ˜€
              Everyone on the Internet knows about you and your condescending attitude toward others who disagree to your opinion.
              I might just put you on my blocked list then I won’t see your crappy comments any more πŸ˜€
              Ps. How is that selfie stick working lol

            • CERO

              Whasup with these “cool kids” trying to act cool online lately? oh wait, its summer.. makes sense.
              Anyway, you’re trying way too hard.. chill.

            • MattfromNikon

              “CERO” I wish I could be a cool troll the same way you are lol….one day I might learn πŸ˜€

            • Allen_Wentz

              NONSENSE ! The characteristics of what makes a pro body (ergonomics, controls, durability, weatherproofedness, etc.) are physical characteristics that have _nothing_ to do with the competence or pay scale of the photog using the device.

            • StevenS

              Only Siths deal in absolutes. πŸ™‚ A specific tool is used up to its capabilities. Also I do not subscribe to a one camera fits all. A 16mp d4s or a d5 is not the best landscape or architecture camera. A d750 or d800/810 is better suited to that. Also street is better suited with a small unobtrusive body as people are put off by monster rigs being pointed at them.

              A tool is a tool and you should always pick the right tool for the job.

            • brian valente

              “9 months of shoddy craftsmanship” is not a fact, that’s an opinion of lightandmatter.org

            • Ineedmy Bobo

              The D800 was much worse than that. Early buyers had to send their cameras in for re-calibration, most of which came back just as bad as before; it took Nikon several months to figure out what was going on and get it straightened out. It wasn’t just an easy firmware update for those faulty models. I lived through that AND the D600 oil spots. FUN!

    • Nikos Delhanidis

      “Hello, i had the same problem with exposure with the first D500 i received, and colors of that D500 were cold to my taste needing adjustment in menu, as i got one big spot on the images after 500 photos ( without any change of lens), i returned it.

      The new D500 i received is a totaly different camera, nice colors, perfect exposure, it is night and day.”

      http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57982217

  • FOCUS PEAKING FOCUS PEAKING FOCUS PEAKING FOCUS PEAKING FOCUS PEAKING…

    • doge

      Don’t hold your breathe. I don’t think Nikon has ever introduced a new feature to a camera via a firmware update.

      • nwcs

        I think the D70s was the last time.

      • David Weinehall

        Depends on how you see it — the D5 got 2 (3 if you count the 3->30 min limit) new features in the firmware update; digital VR for video, and 9-point AF.

        • ninpou_kobanashi

          The D5 3 -> 30 was promised before it shipped (^_^). Less AF points is kinda of a no-brainer.

          The digital VR however, sounds very sweet.

          • David Weinehall

            It was promised *after*be launch though, ttbomk it was listed as 3s when they launched the camera; they only promised 30s when the feedback got too intense.

            As for less AF points – yes, it’s a no-brainer, but it’s still a feature that wasn’t in the original camera.

            And based on the specs for the digital VR, I wouldn’t get too excited :S

      • Allen_Wentz

        _IF_ Nikon brings Snapbridge iOS to my D500 it will be a totally new feature as far as I am concerned, because it sure as hell is not there now.

    • Kyle

      exactly, I don’t see how you can be serious in video if you don’t offer focus peaking as an option.

      • David Weinehall

        You’re making the assumption here that Nikon is serious about video…

      • brian valente

        you could use an external monitor or recorder with focus peaking, and you’d get prores recording. atomos, etc.

    • Jim Huang

      Might as well add zebra, raw video, logs…etc XP

  • Jonathan

    Oh, If this fixes all those issues (especially that card problem) My Pops and I may finally get a couple of D500s! Yes!

    • MattfromNikon

      The D500s will be released in about 2 years πŸ˜€

    • Fly Moon

      I don’t think it be a good business decision to cater for people like you!
      Always waiting for the “next” release. Even if they release D500s, you will say I will skip it and wait for D510!!!!

      • Spy Black

        I think he meant he’ll get two D500s.

        • Fly Moon

          LOL.
          In that case, my apologies to you @disqus_PwdDXJH0K1:disqus . Thanks, @spy_black:disqus

          • Jonathan

            Yes I should have used an apostrophy. I meant 2 D500 cameras.

  • MattfromNikon

    That’s great! You got a good second body.
    Maybe the first D500 you returned was from a ruined batch full of issues πŸ˜€

  • Nikita

    cool exploded view, but I always wonder why the metal part of the body is in the back. Seems like metal instead of plastic would make more sense in the front to better support long lenses.

    • In grossly in-accurate engineering terms, the glass panels and circuit boards in the top and back are rigid, so the stiffness of the metal is more compatible with those materials, where as the CFRP and composites in the mirrorbox and front plate have more elasticity and can dissipate a shock better than metal….is my guess. Also, from what know, composites are more also more heat-stable and allow for smaller mounting surfaces than metal.

      • Nikita

        interesting, makes sense, thanks

      • Jonathan

        This makes sense. But also raises the question, why is the D5 all magnesium?

        • So that one could hammer nails with it without worrying which side to use?

    • AlphaT

      Looks like the sensor and shutter are mounted at the metal frame at the back, and not in the mirror box itself. This makes sense as it needs to be stable and won’t vibrate much as the mirror moves.

      It’s the bottom that I’m concerned of, as the tripod mount should be solidly attached to the main metal body.

      • ninpou_kobanashi

        The D500 is still considered consumer grade, right? Maybe that’s why they didn’t invest in a cage?

        • hje

          I think it’s a matter of size. The d5 is big enough to use a magnesium alloy “cage” and still fit in all the parts.
          The D500 is pretty small, but uses same processor, autofocus and autofocus processor and a big viewfinder.

          The plastic they use is carbon Fibre. And this kind of plastic is well known for its benefits.

          You can read in Wikipedia about monocoque and vehicle frames. Personally I find it very promising what nikon did with their so called monocoque cameras.

          • StevenS

            I can attest to the rigidity, yet feeling lighter for the size as well as the smoothness in operation.

        • Allen_Wentz

          The D500 is very much a pro body by any rational measure. Nikon’s silly marketing categorization is irrelevant.

      • Allen_Wentz

        This is 2016 and the suggestion that metal is per se better is just wrong. Note for instance that the usage of multiple different materials can help to dampen vibrations. Plus I am unaware of rampant stress failures of Nikon bodies such that we need to second-guess the body integrity.

    • Spy Black

      Who holds a camera with a long lens by the camera?

      • Nikita

        me; I use the 1200mm f/11 on my D40 hand-held all the time (it helps if I sit and use my feet).

        • Spy Black

          I’ll take that as Nikon Rumors humor…

    • catinhat

      Entirely agree, that mirror box / mount assembly should have been all metal like in D5,D4,D3,D700,D300, etc.

      • Adam Fo

        The D800 appears to be the last sub-flagship camera, either Nikon or Canon, with an all magnesium mirror box and mainframe.
        See the disassembly photos at: fixyourcamera.org/nikon-d800

    • Allen_Wentz

      Bottom line is that modern design materials have made “all metal” no longer necessarily better design. Especially when both weight and vibrations are such critical issues, it should be clear that carbon fiber in the mix can very often improve products.

  • Benno Hessler

    I am hoping for WiFi that can be turned on and off in the menu without the need for a smartphone-app.

  • AlphaT

    Hopefully Snapbridge will now work with IOS devices, among fixes for the ERR lockup, battery, and card issues.
    Not expecting any additional features that wasn’t mentioned yet.

    • nwcs

      The updated firmware may be a 2nd reboot attempt of the SnapBridge concept along with the D3500 and the DL cameras. Especially if they expand the devices SB works with.

      • AlphaT

        I believe Nikon is all-in with the SnapBridge concept. It will be included in all future models, and it’s imperative that it works on both IOS and Android devices for it to be successful.

        • nwcs

          I think they are all-in as well. They just are executing rather poorly. I wouldn’t be surprised if they re-announce SB later in the year.

          • ITN

            It is typical that the first iteration barely works and in subsequent cameras it becomes progressively more capable. I think this is the right direction to take, making all DSLR images instantly available for social sharing without the user having to put much effort into the transfer.

            • nwcs

              It’s technically already on the second iteration since the first SnapBridge technology died and they came up with this scheme. So it would be the third launch. I think it’s the right direction concept-wise but whether they can execute the concept well enough is what remains to be seen.

            • ITN

              Which camera used it the first? Prior to the D500, I’m unaware of anything called SnapBridge in Nikon’s product portfolio. I’m sure documentation of the claimed first launch is easy to find as it should be mentioned in the appropriate camera launch press release.

            • nwcs

              It was the name of their original wifi WMU product. If you search enough you’ll find it.

    • CERO

      wishing they could do 4k with the entire sensor and not just tiny crop mode.

  • richard Murphy

    My 6 day old D500 is flawless (to date) – I’m hoping that the update takes it to 82 megapixels !

    • MattfromNikon

      LOL but then the high ISO will suffer πŸ˜€

      • richard Murphy

        OK – 42 MP will suffice πŸ˜‰

        • MattfromNikon

          Seriously I believe these updates are just minor improvements that doesn’t add any new features what so ever…..

          • Allen_Wentz

            Hopefully not minor. If Nikon makes Snapbridge iOS work as advertised that will be a HUGE update.

  • Jaroslav CharvΓ‘t

    Well, under the news about D500 FW it is lovely to read that lecture about D750 being the worst of the worstest, but… what actual problems do you think are likely to be fixed in the new fw? Over twenty of them? Really?

  • brian valente

    Did I miss there are issues with the D500?

    I’ve had mine for a while, no issues for me so far.

    • TL Robinson

      Short one memory card issue that I fixed by formatting it out of body exFAT, ditto – I use mine daily and no issues past that one. Even my 01 batteries worked in it. People bitch just to bitch.

    • Nigel Haarstad

      I haven’t been following reports from others, but I’ve personally been having regular card errors with my Lexar XQD card.

      • Allen_Wentz

        XQD rocks; no problems with Lexar’s 64 GB XQD 2933x card here. My practice with cards has always been to always and only reformat in-camera. With top-quality best-available XQD/CF/SDXC cards (all SanDisk Extreme Pro except for the XQD) I have never had card errors in this century. If I had “regular card errors” I would promptly send the card back.

        The only problem I have is that Nikon forced lame SD on us for the second D500 slot; damn!

    • Allen_Wentz

      Lack of functional Snapbridge is a HUGE issue, and it should be fixable with software/firmware upgrades.

      Other than that I have zero issues with my D500 except that it is so hella competent it is taking me quite a while to learn how to take full advantage of that extraordinary competence.

  • Lee Myers

    Why is nearly everybody talking about yopics other than the D500 upgrade on this thread? Issues with older models is old news.

  • Breton

    I hope this will fixe the lexar SD card issue πŸ™‚

  • Skues

    wi-fi issue?

  • Steve Rhodes

    Touch screen working on menus would be good. There could be a lock so you don’t accidently change something.

    • Dustin Hall

      That’s not needed from pros/enthusiasts, as most would prefer to not have it on menus. The only thing in the menus that supports it is the keyboard, which is the only thing with use for it in the menu.

      • Matt

        That’s what a toggle is for.

        • Dustin Hall

          A toggle isn’t necessary though. With a screen as small as what’s on the back of a camera, a touch menu isn’t necessary. It’s really a “feature” meant for entry-level models.

          • Zenettii

            LMAO, I’ve not heard such stupid crap in a long time. Touch screen is for everyone! having it there is a bonus if you don’t want to use it, then just don’t! Stop being such a dick.

            • Dustin Hall

              I’m not being a dick, just stating the facts and actually being quite polite about it. Take your own advice.

            • Allen_Wentz

              Actually touch screen design on the back of a camera is hella challenging given the very high likelihood of routine unintended touching. Given the UI challenges I think Nikon did a very good job on the D500 touch screen.

              And Dustin is correct, there is a big difference between pro bodies and entry level, both in terms of what users may want to do and what the body itself does (just count buttons).

              The toggle on my D3 is much larger than the toggle on my D500, and with XL hands I find the D5 toggle easier to use; it is nice on the D500 to be able to scroll around an image using the touch display instead of the smaller toggle.

  • ninpou_kobanashi

    Do you mean last or latest? Like, there won’t be anymore? Curious.

    • catinhat

      Judging by the D810 there may not be anymore.

    • Adam Fo

      It seems Nikon have switched over to using carbon reinforced plastic (CRP) on all cameras cheaper than the D5 and plastic on the cheapest cameras.
      The increased use of composites internally seems widespread in the industry.

  • Kiboko

    In august they promised to let us Apple-fans to be able to use SnapBridge.
    I hope also this firmware will come in august, not september … And, I will be very pleased if the offered focus peaking.

    • Zenettii

      would prefer they made it useful rather than spend time on porting it to apple. The port will achieve nothing if it’s almost useless like it is right now

      • Allen_Wentz

        My guess is that calling the iOS version simply a “port” is a misnomer. Odds are that the reason iOS functionality is not here yet is because Apple insists on certain good core security/programming practices that Nikon got away with avoiding when making the currently lame Android version of Snapbridge.

        Hopefully the extra months of development time allow both versions of Snapbridge to become competent enough to be functional. But given Nikon’s history with consumer software, frankly I am not optimistic.

  • KellyVanRijn

    Another reason to simply switch to Canon. Nikon has long abandoned the professional and prosumer market in favor of quick commercialism, which has led to crappier and crappier cameras each time they release a ‘new’ camera every three months…

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