Nikon D4s firmware update version 1.31 released

Today Nikon released a new C firmware update version 1.31 for the Nikon D4s camera that contains a single fix for the  WR-R10 wireless remote controller:

Fixed an issue that occurred with WR-R10 wireless remote controller firmware version 3.00. In rare cases, the camera would fail to display the number of exposures remaining or would take about a minute to power down when the WR-R10 was connected.

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  • Orange Elephant

    No fix to make the SB5000 work wirelessly? 🙁

    • Sawyerspadre

      But then you wouldn’t need a D5! Seems Nikon is not real big on adding new features back into older bodies. Think Snapbridge. So why couldn’t it work at least in a limited way with cameras such as D5500 and D750, which have built-in wifi. I know we would have to forego the ever-power-sucking Bluetooth, but it would be nice if they could do it.

      My sense is that they don’t have a huge depth of software resources and are keeping them focused on new bodies.

      • Citizen Kang

        I can’t use Snapbridge because I don’t have any of the required camera bodies, but if WMU is an example of Nikon’s ability to “do it well”, then maybe they shouldn’t even bother. That is an embarrassing piece of software. Seriously, if it’s that bad, don’t even do it. It is such an unpolished turd.

        • Sawyerspadre

          Correct, and Snapbridge is a do-over for them. It would be great if they got it right, and then made it work with some bodies that already have wifi built in.

          • Thom Hogan has said that he likes Snapbridge, at least in principle. Apparently it doesn’t support iOS yet, which seems ridiculous but there you are …

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      • And whatever people they have, are clearly not good enough.

    • It is doubtful that this is a software only fix.

  • MattfromNikon

    I wonder why Nikon never releases firmware updates for any body such as for example:
    1) improves autofocus accuracy and speed by 30%
    2) improves camera respons time
    I have seen other brands releasing these types of firmware, so just wondering why Nikon never have done it.
    Or maybe other brands just use these firmware updates as marketing gimmicks with actually no real improvement.

    • Spy Black

      Because Nikon cameras are perfect…

      • nwcs

        Lol, that’s good comedy!

    • Mike Gordon

      That was Sony & Fuji fixing the beta crap they pushed on their customers.

      • Michael Laing

        Not true, Fuji, has added new features (focus peaking) and made big improvements with things like autofocus, in fact completely upgrading the X-E2 focus system to the X-T10 system.

        There is a noticeable difference between the camera, with every update generally. Where as Nikon just fixes issue and not always that will (the D800 autofocus comes to mind).

        • HF

          The mirrorless usually lacked performance in the first place initially. Much of the AF performance is related to algorithms (e.g. pattern recognition), which can be improved more easily than a PD system. I used the Fuji system for some time and AFC was still slow and unreliable, even after firmware updates. I find my D810 to be very good, by the way.

          • Michael Laing

            I like the D810, the AF isn’t perfect but they did improve it from the D800.

            With Fuji AF, the X-Pro 1 and X-E1 had terrible AF to begin with and with firmwear updates they managed to turn it into not very good. I accept that was the limits of the chip they were using. With the X-E2 they got a new processor and improved the AF conciderably (and have continued to do so with the X-T1, X-T10 and then added firmware updates to the X-T1 and X-E2 to bring the cameras upto the X-T10 spec.

            What I can’t understand is why Nikon didn’t do that with the D800, which uses the same AF module (Multi-CAM3500FX).

    • jec6613

      Essentially, Fuji and Sony didn’t have proper working firmware the first time, whereas Nikon’s firmware is very mature when it comes out from the factory, at least in the basic functionality.

      Early on, Nikon had lots of feature-adding updates, such as the D70/D70s, the D2 series, and so on. Once shaking the bugs out of the initial years of firmware, they’ve needed relatively few changes.
      Fuji, Sony, et cetera will get better over time with this, and become more Nikon/Canon like.

      • nwcs

        Probably true — at least for the original X100 and XPro1. Not as true of the recent models. But I do expect the firmware updates will slow down over time.

        Eventually one of the camera makers will figure out how to monetize firmware as there’s lots of stuff that could be done for each model if there was incentive. Whether Fuji or Nikon or canon there are lots of requests that have fallen on deaf ears for years.

        Remember the love fest last year when the rumor ran that Nikon was going to create a firmware update program for a nominal fee? a lot of people had a lot of ideas for Nikon improvements.

    • Zinchuk

      They did, a lonnnng time ago. The firmware updates for the D2X essentially made it almost parallel to the D2Xs. The update was released around the time the D2Xs came out. It actually added some real functionality to the older body. But I don’t think they’ve done the same thing since.

    • I would be surprised if a 30% improvement could be made with with a firmware only fix unless a pretty major issue (bug) was in the original firmware.

      • morcheeba

        Agreed. Kinda like a firmware release to get 30% more speed out of my car. 🙂

        • Sometimes I think the people on this forum want Nikon to perform magic and when Nikon falls short of the impossible, they jump on with relentless criticism.

          • Michael Laing

            I don’t want miracles, just a system that it is as good as it should have been in the first place. The D800 is a prime example, the camera has a great sensor but it has issues, particularly with its AF. The D810 fixed all these issues and came out a couple of years later, it was the camera the D800 should have been.

            Also, people also mention firmware updates for Fuji and Sony but one of the best firmware updates came for the Canon 7D, which really improved the camera.

            Nikon have been taking their customers for granted for a long time, they have released various products that have been shoddy (D600, D800, SB900 come to mind) and a lot of Nikon customers have come to realise this.

            • Michiel953

              The D800/E weren’t shoddy at all, they were enormous leaps forward at the time, but also had obvious weak points. The D810 corrected most of that. Consistently accurate (not always though; the outer AF points still are unreliable) autoocus, a wonderfully quiet mirror/shutter/mirror operation.

              But that wasn’t a firmware update, it was extensive re-engineering.

            • Michael Laing

              Well I have found the complete opposite, the AF was and still is pretty awful as soon as you get away from centre point. Yes, I acknowledge that there was some re-engineering and I am extremely impressed with the D810 but I am sure Nikon could have done more to sort out the AF issues with the original D800/e and they didn’t.

              I am also not the only person who thinks that Nikon could do with more firmware updates. Remember last year, when there was a rumour that Nikon was going to do pay firmware updates, everybody get excited about that and was disappointed when it didn’t happen.

            • Michiel953

              I’m inclined to think the “old” AF module, manufacturing tolerances etc just didn’t allow Nikon to get the AF performance that was required, so in comes the 810. It’s still not perfect though; I found my 810 with 35/1.4G (AF fine tuned at +7) really hunting yesterday on one of the left outer points, in a reasonably lit space on something with adequate contrast, so I had to go back to the centre point. That was disappointing.

            • Michael Laing

              I accept that the D810 AF isn’t perfect. I think the big issue was that the AF system had been around for several years and when you put it with a camera with 36mp, it was going to show focus flaws much more than a 12mp D700 or D3. I realise that the D300 had a much closer pixel density to the D800 but again I didn’t think that did as well as the D700.

              I am just wondering though why the D800 didn’t get a AF firmware upgrade though, to make the AF closer to the D810 as they both use the Multi-CAM3500FX module.

            • Michiel953

              I thought it was a different module. Anyway, 36MP is a harsh challenge on any AF system. I have plenty images where focus is on the eyelid instead of the pupil. Which leads me to ask: the pupil is a mirror, so what is the AF focusing on? The image in the mirror? Yes, it does happen and yes, it’s that critical.

              My 810 does give me a much better success rate though. Great camera; a keeper.

            • First, I do not agree that any of these products are shoddy. In the case of the D600 and D800 they were both ground breaking in their own rights.

              Secondly, I prefer to believe that Nikon (or most companies) deliver the best product they can at the time resulting on a number of compromises based on what technology is available to them at the time. It is very likely that the D800 had the best performance (AF and other) that was possible for Nikon to deliver when it was released. I am thrilled they choose to deliver it when they did rater than wait and deliver the D800 with D810 enhancements later. This gave me the ability to benefit from the remarkable capabilities of the D800 sooner.

            • Michael Laing

              Apart from the D600 has oil issues, the D800 had AF issue, the SB900 had melting issues. Nikon even had extra time to make sure the D800 was ok cause they put the release back 6 months.

              The D800 had some good elements but I have found it rather frustrating over the years, the AF is passable at best, I move it out of centre point and I have no idea if it will focus properly. What I don’t understand though was why Nikon didn’t update the firmware to improve the D800’s AF, to the same spec as the D810, it uses the same AF module so it couldn’t be impossible.

              Even now look at the problems Nikon have they release the new flash and it doesn’t work properly with most Nikon camera’s. I realise this will eventually be fixed but it was daft of them to release without the firmware ready to go with other cameras.

            • I’ve never shot with the D600, but I know several people that do and never experienced the oil issue. For those that did Nikon replaced the shutter and offered to replace the shutter for anyone that wanted their’s replaced.

              We do not know that the AF sensors in the two cameras are identical. I’ve heard they are slightly different versions of the 3500 series.

              Overall, you seem to be very unhappy with Nikon. I think you are holding them to a standard that is way too high. They produce outstanding tools that I use almost everyday. I expect them to continue to improve those tools and I am happy to purchase new (better) versions when they are available.

            • Michael Laing

              It took months before Nikon took action with the D600 but it was an issue which shouldn’t have happened, in the first place, the same with the D800’s autofocus.

              As far as I am aware both the D800/E and D810 use the Multi-CAM 3500FX module, so I don’t think it would be the issue.

              I have been using Nikon for quite some time and have spend thousands on their products over that time. I do think that Nikon take their customer loyalty for granted and I am not sure they have been led very well. I acknowledge that the flooding in Thailand caused big problems for Nikon in 2012 and it took a long time for them to get over them. Hopefully, the problems in Japan won’t effect the company as badly.

              I don’t want to have a go at Nikon, I want them to be exceptional and I want to buy products which are fault free but currently Nikon isn’t quite up to standard, in all areas.

              The Nikkor 24-70 VR is a good example, in many ways it is a good lens but it isn’t a great lens, particularly when it comes to sharpness, which is not up to spec, certainly falling short of the Canon 24-70 and I don’t think it is as good as the Tamron 24-70 VC.

              Put on top of the 3rd party companies are making exceptional lenses and in some (but not all) areas Nikon isn’t keeping up. They don’t have a decent 50mm currently and I would take my 58mm Voigtlander over their 58mm f/1.4, in price and quality.

              I am not sounding very positive but I don’t want to be that way. Nikon can make great products, I have tried both the D5 and the D500 and was very impressed (particularly with the D500) and in theory the SB5000 could be very good, though I think they rolled up too late for the party with the radio trigger and are charging silly prices for the product (similar to what Canon did).

              Now fingers crossed Nikon get their act together, get their quality control sorted and start listening to their customers instead of expecting their customers to buy anything they release because, the world has moved on they they need to move with it.

        • Michiel953

          That’s called chip tuning and yes, a 30% improvement (f.i., from 220 hp to 300 hp for a two litre petrol engine) is possible in some cases (turbo engines obviously, but it involves extensive changes to the engine management as a whole as well).

          A 30% improvement in autofocus accuracy points to a deficiency in the original design I would think.

    • How about “this release let you upgrade your d4s to d5 for free?”

  • br0xibear

    Interesting thoughts on the D4, D4S, D5 AND D500, and how choosing a particular camera is personal choice and how it feels, rather than just specs on paper…

    • fanboy fagz

      D5 a stinker? what are you talking about tubby?

    • outkasted

      I did not like the D4 compared to the D3s however I do like the D4s but its still a bit too pricey for me. I like D850 but the shutter cycle count is pretty low. As an event Photographer I think a shutter cycle with at least 250,000 to 300,000 cycle.

  • true

    What I’ve noticed is that nikon bodies are a joke for new buyers. Buy a body for 3100, just for the new price to drop 2800 eventually, just for grey market new price (on same close-by region, so no customs fee) to be 2200… what’s the point in try to sell a camera used when the price of used is now somewhere 1800-1900 and nowhere near 2000+ area? That’s a huge drop in value imo.

    The glass seems to hold value a little bit better, which is why I’m not parting ways with them yet.. that and maybe nikon will eventually wisen up and release fullframe mirrorless, now that Tony Northup confirmed that nikon 1 is dead?

    • David Weinehall

      All electronics that keep adding features/improving drop in price eventually. Look at laptops, TVs, etc., while things that by and large don’t develop as fast (speakers, TV furniture, etc.) don’t drop in price as much.

      The reason people still buy things at a higher price shortly after the release is that they a.) want to have the latest and greatest, b.) actually find some of the new features useful, c.) want warranties.

      As for me I tend to buy laptops brand new, and I tend to renew them fairly often, because I work as a software developer, and I travel a fair deal. I need to keep up with the latest, and I need a light laptop.

      As a hobby photographer, however, I cannot justify buying new products shortly after release.

  • fanboy fagz

    oh, want a tissue for your tears tubby?

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