Canon EOS-1D X will be announced tonight, now Nikon has the ball

Here are the specs for the upcoming Canon EOS-1D X camera:

  • Full Frame
  • 18.1MP
  • Dual DIGIC 5 – 17 Times The Processing Power of DIGIC 4
  • ISO 100-51200 Native
  • 100,000 Pixel RGB Metering Sensor
  • EOS iSA (Intelligent Subject Analysis)
  • 61 Point AF
  • 21 f/5.6 Cross Type Sensors
  • 20 f/4 Cross Type Sensors
  • 5 f/2.8 Cross Type Senors
  • EOS iTR AF (Intelligent Tracking & Recognition Auto Focus)
  • 12 Frames Per Second
  • 14 Frames Per Second JPG Only
  • 400,000 Shot Rated Shutter
  • Ethernet Connection
  • March Availability

Nikon should be next:

Nikon D3s: 14th October 2009
Canon 1D Mk IV: 19th October 2009

Nikon D3: 23rd August 2007
Canon 1D Mk III: 21st February 2007

Nikon D700: 1st July 2008
Canon 5D Mk II: 17th September 2008

October 17th: Nikon announces 65 million Nikkor lenses
October 18th: Canon announces 70 million EF lenses

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  • Ks Of W

    Looking forward to Nikon’s response πŸ™‚

    • PHB

      We already know the Nikon Rumors response:

      That does it! Too many pixels! I am switching to Nikon.

      • Bigus Dickus


        • Bigus Dickus

          Btw Admin, how can Canon anounce 70000000 nikkors? πŸ™‚

        • Bigus Dickus

          i will switch to canon if nikons response start again at ISO200

    • letsgonikon

      Let’s go Nikon. Why the wait?
      I personally have been waiting to long
      to finally buy a full-frame. Many
      pro’s are expecting the D4 announcement
      in tandem with the D800.

      The time is now. Wake up!

      • broxibear

        I find the fact that Canon have announced this and all the details over 5 months before release interesting…maybe Nikon will follow and announce their cameras too ?
        Someone at Canon marketing got it right, all the blogs, forums etc are buzzing about this camera even though it’s not going on sale until late March 2012…good job Canon.

    • IanZ28

      That looks like the specs I was personally expecting for the D4 (well all except all the cross type sensors) & D800 (for sensor).

      And, it looks like Canon has taken the auto-focus complaints very seriously with all the AF references and improvements.

      Looks like a very impressive camera. Dare I say a camera that may actually dethrone the D3s.

      I too look forward to Nikon’s response!

      • LGO

        My concern is that Nikon’s response will be priced even higher!

        “The Canon EOS-1D X Digital SLR camera is scheduled for March 2012 availability and will be sold in a body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $6,800.00. The compact, lightweight WFT-E6A Wireless File Transmitter is scheduled to be available in March 2012 and have an estimated retail price of $600. Availability for the GP-E1 GPS receiver is expected in April 2012 with an estimated retail price of $300.”

  • xophaser

    due in March, then they can announce it in Jan/FEB. Canon PR is trying to takes some wind out of Nikon FF rumors. But if Nikon laid down the law with the D800 or D4 it won’t matter.

  • Cow

    Holly cow Batman!
    Come on Nikon … show them your power now

  • Ben

    I’m impressed. That’s just about exactly what I’m hoping for from the D4. The ethernet connection is a really nice bonus. No more need for card readers, just need a cable now. Come on Nikon, time to announce the D4! πŸ™‚

    • D4? I was hopping those would be the specs in the new d800 (minus the FPS so as to make a difference for pro-journalists to go for a d4).

      • Ben

        Yeah, me too actually, but I really want the D4 for my purposes.

    • Jabs

      Is Ethernet wired or wireless?

      • I’ve never heard “Ethernet” referred to as wireless. Which is somewhat disappointing because seriously, I can connect to WiFi on just about any other device. Why not a high-end camera? My TV even has WiFi!

        • Ben

          There is a wifi adapter they announced as well.

          Ethernet is a wired connection most commonly used on home networking routers. It offers very fast data transfer. So one of the benefits is you won’t have to take your cards out of the camera and you can transfer your images very fast to your computer. So now you wouldn’t need to carry around a card reader anymore, just a simple cable.

          • NyconNeoColonilalist

            Great, does each camera have an IP address?

            • Each camera would have a unique IP on ‘your’ network, as well as a unique MAC address. Which could lead to interesting things if they enabled tethered shooting through the Ethernet connection.

          • Thanks, I understand how networking works. I don’t understand why they would just “cut the cable” and go with a WiFi built-in? (I’m assuming power consumption of the WiFi would drain batteries much faster than a wired connection.)

            I really don’t have a problem with using a card reader since I don’t have to keep the camera nearby and powered on in order to access the pictures. (And modern card readers can be quite fast.) For tethered shooting, a long Ethernet cable is easier and less expensive than a long USB cable, plus it is faster (potentially) than USB 2. But again, I’d rather not be tripping over cables at all if I could help it.

      • Jabs

        Of course I know that Ethernet is wired even though they have been promising a wireless version for eon.

        I was being sarcastic towards the original poster – LOL!

        Gigabit Ethernet is so last year too – about 5+ years old.

        Not much throughput compared to what is being used instead of it today.

        Great camera though!

        Thunderbolt is much, much faster and more flexible, as you can basically daisy-chain it.

        Ethernet works for stationary cameras mainly and have a specific address, so a real weakness!

      • broxibear

        “Built-in wired LAN function, WiFi & GPS units
        The EOS-1D X also has a built-in wired RJ-45 LAN Ethernet port that provides Gigabit ethernet connection and a dedicated slot for receiving two new accessories – the compatible WFT-E6 Wireless File Transmitter or the GP-E1 GPS unit.
        With the EOS-1D X the new WFT-E6 wireless unit offers advantages such as 802.11a/b/g and n compatibility, DLNA compliance, FTP, EOS Utility and WFT Server shooting as well as Linked Shooting for remote shutter triggering of other WiFi enabled EOS-1D X cameras. The WFT-E6 has an internal antenna with a range of approximately 150 metres, a built-in Bluetooth transceiver, Wireless Time Synching, and the ability to trigger up to 10 slave EOS-1D X cameras fitted with WFT-E6 units from up to 100 metres away.
        The GP-E1 GPS unit mounts to the EOS-1D X in the same way as the WFT-E6 unit and is the same size and shape, so both cannot be used at the same time. The GP-E1 features an electronic compass and GPS signal receiver and will allow you to geotag your images with location data. This data will be stored in the location field within the EXIF data of each image.”

        • Jabs


          Thanks for the information and I read it before but was too busy dealing with idiots here to reply or acknowledge.


  • Nikonuser
    • yep, that’s it – now can you find one for the D800? πŸ™‚

  • Steven

    This looks awesome. I’ve been drooling over those specs all day today. It has everything I am praying that Nikon will match or surpass. I didn’t see a comment about the buffer size for 12 fps raw. Any guesses? I know people throw this around all the time, but if Nikon doesn’t respond I will for sure switch. I love the D3S, but 12MP is not good for me and my habit of cropping to the heart of the action. March availability means I have plenty of time to see what Nikon does in response.

    • Ever think about buying an extra lens, costing half of the cost of the camera, so you won’t have to crop so far? And you’ll still be able to keep the perks of Nikon’s ISO greatness.

      • Steven

        Yes Mark. I have thought about that a lot in fact. I usually shoot with a 70-200 2.8 or a 24-70 2.8 on a D7000. I sold my D300 to get the D7000 as a stop gap until the new bodies were available. The D7000 is a great camera for it’s intended purposes, but it doesn’t “feel” right in my hands. The D300 felt much better. I know for sure I want full frame body, so I’ll see what’s coming before pulling the trigger on any more gear.

        • Well, if you’re having trouble with a 1.5x crop body and a 70-200 (105-300mm equivalent), then youre DEFINITELY going to need that $4-7k lens to get the reach you want out of a 1.0x no-crop, FX body. You’ll only get 75% of the reach you do now with the same lens. Just saying, it’s a little bit unrealistic to switch camera manufacturers, AND jump down in crop factor if you need more reach out of your camera, and that’s the only problem. Think about it.


          • Or give up a tiny bit of IQ and a few stops and get a 1.7x or 2x teleconverter for a few hundred dollars or less.

            I agree, the change from DX to FX would really change up how you see and use your current lenses. On the flip side, I frequently had to move away from my subjects considerably with my 85 F1.4 on a crop body which wasn’t always possible and frequently annoying.

            • Steven

              I actually have the 1.7x and don’t like it at all.

        • Image

          Buy a grip. I am a D300S user as well and bought the D7000. It actually hurts my hands to use for long periods. I have a grip on the way and I’m sure it will solve the problem!

          A D300S with grip feels perfect for me.

          • +1! That’s what I shoot with. It’s perfect for my hands as well. I just bought a 720nm IR-only D60, with no grip. And it feels like a plasticky, tiny toy in comparison.

    • PeterT

      Buffer size: 120 JPEG, 36 RAW (source: Canon Homepage)

  • It’s ON! Nikon, it’s time to bring on the D4 and D800. Canon went first. To me, this was the perfect scenario. I’m glad Canon went first. This means Nikon can counter and shatter the industry, yet again. While Canon has just released the counter to the D3s, they will be behind, yet again, once Nikon counters with the D4.

    • Amen. It’s on, and it’s about to get bloody in Canon’s corner. πŸ˜‰

      • Julienne

        To be fair, I’m not sure the D4 will meet these specs let alone surpass them, in which case we will still be waiting a long time before we know how each camera handles in the wild (March at the earliest).

        • I think the point is that Canon has clearly waved the white flag and finally decided to take a page from Nikon’s playbook. Realize that with the amount of research that has occurred since the release of the 5dMkII, coupled with the 15% drop in resolution, we’re seeing the rough equivalent of a 12mp sensor (by 2008 standards). Or, put another way, when Nikon releases an 18mp-24mp sensor in their D4, it’ll be because it’s actually the right time for it. Canon raced ahead, paid the price, and is now racing to get back on track….tada!….right where Nikon has been all along. (I’m actually more prepared than ever to predict that Nikon will stay on the lower end of the 18-24mp range, though imagine if Nikon can release a 20-24mp sensor that schools the Canon’s 18mp in low-light performance).

          Essentially, Canon has just admitted that MP isn’t everything, and that issues of IQ go much deeper than resolution alone.

          Good. Now we can see REAL performance improvements, and stop worrying about the simplistic battle over the metric that is largely unrelated to the various criteria that would constitute beautiful, interesting, engaging, quality, competent, unique, life-altering image creation. Quality might just prevail once again.

          • AnoNemo

            Ron, I can finish your post … Canon will go bankrupt!

          • PHB

            There is an asterisk after the ISO 100-51200. Does that mean a change in the measurement criteria?

            Canon has been claiming the extended ISO rather than the rated on their low end bodies for quite a while. Up till now the manufacturers had agreed to a scheme where the min ISO was the best performance and the max claimed ISO had noise no worse than that which a particular ISO 1600 print film had given.

            So don’t assume that extra two stops are real quite yet.

          • My thoughts exactly, Ron. Canon has now admitted their original gameplan was seriously flawed, thus vilifying it in the form of the new EOS 1DX – at the same time, taking a page strait out of Nikon’s Playbook. The question is, is Canon better at being Nikon than Nikon? I think not. By the very virtue of this release, Canon signifies admittance that Nikon is king. Wait for the D4, Nikon will use this as an opportunity to rub-in the fact that the industry has recognized Nikon’s approach as vastly superior.

            Now lies the problem for Canon, they’ve mimicked Nikon’s approach – how will this go over with they’re loyal MP hungry sheeple? Also, what if Nikon can actually deliver a high resolution FX body with D3s quality IQ ( D800 @ 36MP) and Canon is stuck chasing Nikon in the lower MP, high ISO catagories? Sounds like a one-two punch, if you ask me. Especially when you add in the D4, which will not disappoint. Yeah, Canon will counter the D800 with the 5DMkIII. If history is an indicator, it will be mostly video oriented and have a cheap body with equally cheap AF and ergonomics. The 5D line is so meh, The D7100 (an APS-C DX body) will likely match it, if not better it, again. Nikon still wins in the APS-C catagory – by a decent margin.

            P.s. maybe this will show the MP hungry clients that MP are not as important as they’ve been led to believe (within reason) by Canon.

            • Stone

              “The low-light capability of the EOS-1D X is evident in its incredible ISO range and ability to photograph in extremely low-light conditions. Adjustable from ISO 100 to 51,200 within its standard range, the new model offers a low ISO 50 setting for studio and landscape photography and two high settings of 102,400 at H1 and 204,800 at H2, ideal for law enforcement, government or forensic field applications.”

    • +1

      Exactly my sentiments Cary, exciting times for us FF users. Come on Nikon, let’s see your cards!

      • Yes, very exciting times! Nikon will show their hand soon, don’t worry. πŸ˜‰

    • I don’t know in what world you live in but this is not a counter to the d3, its a counter to the d4 and d4x.
      gigabite ethernet is a killer for the olympics, I predict an increase in white lenses next summer)

      • Jabs

        Gigabyte Ethernet is what – wired or wireless?

        Thunderbolt is faster by far!

        USB 3.0 is also very fast.

        • Symple

          Jabs — I think the benefit of the ethernet might be the length that you can run the cable, and at 100 meters or less per connection it is inexpensive and easy to make custom cables. Looks like these cable options are for movie makers using up to ten cameras at once for same synchronized shoot on ethernet from distances up to 200 meters from each other at a central server connected in turn at whatever length to the computer that would control them, and probably would not be limited to data download. Seems like Canon DSLRs are as or more popular for video media as still imaging, so this is an effective solution without the extra licensing hassles.

          • Jabs


            Sorry to be sarcastic but I already know the details of Ethernet as use it daily. It is quite limited and now you need multiple Ethernet adapters or Ethernet Routers to connect all those cameras to feed their various outputs to a dedicated Server and with large files, it probably will choke quickly.

            Almost no one uses Gigabit Ethernet in HPC (High Performance Computing), as it is too slow. People now use fiber optic as it is totally digital and Ethernet is analog, so cheaper but slower and maybe useless in the Movie Industry. Great for Independent Film makers perhaps or lower budget Operations.

            They have moved way beyond Gigabit Ethernet even within the Ethernet standard as Gigabit Ehternet is about 5+ years old, by the way.

            Thunderbolt would have been a better solution to me but maybe the camera was designed and built before that became an established standard. Ethernet is also simpler to implement, so touche’.

            Maybe Nikon will use Thunderbolt!

            • Jabs

              The Ethernet connection is probably going to be used for REMOTE control of various cameras and NOT for delivering data from the cameras just like RED does.

              We probably will soon see a Canon version of the RED system and this camera now would link to that too, perhaps.

              Ethernet to remotely TRIGGER events mainly, perhaps.

            • Dan

              Jabs: I don”t think you know what your talking about…. GB Ethernet is still used extensively in datacenters, its cheap relativity fast and tough. It is definitely not analog … Fiber is used for Storage area networks and rack to core switching and long cable lengths. Although 10gb Ethernet has been released 1gb will be used for many years to come.

            • Jabs


              Perhaps you fail to realize that VIDEO and high res RAW images are more bandwidth sensitive than the majority of Data Centers can ever deliver = FACTS.

              Apple has one of the BEST Data Centers in the world as they stream and STORE lots of video, audio and photos to be delivered at SPEEDS way beyond the average Data Center, hence YOU are clueless.

              Ever heard of streaming 4G content at insane speeds beyond Gigabit capabilities?

              Cable Operators NOW use fiber optics for streaming CONTENT as Ethernet has a limited throughput and thus speed hiccups.

              REAL Engineer here and thus get real.

              Ethernet for remote triggering and integration into a DIGITAL workflow and not to move files, as it is too SLOOOOW but cheap!

              They use different connectors in Clustered computers as Ethernet is bandwidth starved as digital audio and CINEMA has moved on past that capability and gone to other faster topologies = DON NOT try and teach me what I already know.

              TELL us here what topology is used to stream MOVIES to the 4K Cinemas in America? It sure ain’t Ethernet of any type!

              Gigabit Ethernet is a revival of an already DEAD standard for the LOW end market and NOT on the cutting edge either = go learn a thing or two!

              Tell us here what the REAL bandwidth of Gigabit Ethernet is plus what is its’ ability to move fast HIGH frequency and high bit-rate files of high resolution and see your problem.

              Wikipedia cannot help you either!

              Why do you think Canon also included Wireless N, if they thought Gigabit wired was the only route to go.

              Go do some RESEARCH at RED’s web site and it clearly says there WHY they use Ethernet and what it is for.

              I research BEFORE I post and not run my mouth like lots of you do here.

              WHAT operating System is used mainly in VIDEO and AUDIO Datacenters sending high resolution files and NOT merely Web Datacenters?

              What topology do they use as interconnects – ANSWER that?

              What Operating System has the lowest latency?
              HINT: I use it everyday myself!

              End of rant – have a nice day or night.

            • Tiger1050Rider

              Ah Hem….
              A someone who has developed an Ethernet NIC in the past, I really do beg to differ in your assertion that Ethernet is Analogue. IT is certainly not.

              You don’t need to include a Router/Switch between the camera and the PC. I use PtP Ethernet in HPC systems everyday. We use it for Heartbeat. You just need to setup the NIC properly. However in genreal purpose computers such as Windows, you may need to enable the DHCP Server to give the Camera an IP addy.
              I see lots of issues with snappers mis-configuring it.
              I this Canon will aim this as a port to connect their WIRELESS device rather than uising an umbilical even though this would be very useful in the studio.

              We should wait for the details specs and the recviews to come out before we can properly understand its usefulness.

            • Jabs

              Earth to all of YOU here!

              Analog is described as being in the form of voltage or current while digital is described as being in the frequency domain.

              You can run SOME digital signals over copper wires BUT the issues is it is first converted to an analgous SIGNAL to then be recreated later at the other end as a digital replicate of the former digital signal. A/D converters remember!!!

              HENCE, get real!

              Digital over copper.

              Digital completely cannot go over copper, so far as it does NOT reside on the voltage or current domain.

              Ethernet is used for all types of signaling and triggering so WHAT?

              If it’s wires, it is ANALOG no matter what they call it.
              No wonder this country is in such dire straits in Engineering.

              Ethernet is PARTIALLY digital at the high end and thus get real.

              Fiber optic at its’ highest end is totally digital as in 1 and 0’s.

              BTW – Sony sends its’ 4k signals VIA fiber optic digital cabling= equals what you could not answer.

              People confuse the issues here and then bring ignorant claims that are not based upon anything sound Engineering wise.

              This is NOT about the benefits of an analog-digital combination device, as I applaud Canon for that, but more about telling you all here that Ethernet is NOT that fast and digital requires speed PLUS frequency as in feed forward and feed backwards to CHECK signal integrity and avoid massive dropouts at high resolutions or throughput.

              This has nothing to do with routers which are mainly analog and SIGNAL distributors.

              Digital connectors are used in the Industry to connect the backbone of the system to the PROCESSOR sub-system, as in it being faster. The SPEED of light, remember.
              How many of you manage and DESIGN a cluster server running Win2003 Enterprise Server or Win2008 R2 Enterprise Server for say Lawrence Livermore Labs???

              How many of you here know that 64bit Linux has more throughput than anything from Microsoft? Ask Apple what they use in their Data Centers – sure NOT OS-X!

              So far NO ONE has answered any of my questions, as it obviously is above your head.

              Time to leave you all to your own fantasy island on the LOW end of things.


            • Jabs


              Great that you actually set things up yourself.

              The problem here is that people do not like to be told anything especially if it is above their heads or they can’t ‘google’ the answers or even understand them.

              There indeed are many forms of Ethernet topology and uses too as you pointed out.

              The fact of the matter, as I posted – RED and many in the Industry already use Ethernet is various forms and for various purposes.

              The posters here usually get lost in trying to TRUMP a thing that they see as NO one else having now meaning that Nikon is lost, just like they did with that lousy Sony A77 camera because it had some new fangled EVF or over a million something res, while unaware how limited that is compared to a better and more clear optical finder. They also trumped the 24meg like it was NOT a smaller APS-C sized sensor and then decried the 36meg FF or full frame Nikon sensor – frauds then!

              It is like the idiot brigade here often as people come here and ratchet up some Nikon hatred while even unaware of the very benefit of the feature themselves.

              I posted the benefit after looking at the RED web site again and from the pictures of their gear on my computers which clearly show them using Ethernet for REMOTE control of their Cinematic gear.

              It is a benefit in the workflow but not in the moving of large files at high speed, as it is too slow to me. Remember 4K to 8K files?

              Try connecting your laptop via that Ethernet connection and see yourself.

              WHY do you think they developed E-SATA?

              Answer this one question – WHAT is the real throughput speed of Gigabit Ethernet and then see the fallacy of their claims.

              Idiots basically trying to be like flies on a perceived rotting Nikon carcass because of the disasters, like Canon was not also affected.

              Same crap here all the time from certain posters – trumping an asset and not aware of what it really does or even if it is an asset at all = ignorant TROLLS.

        • Jabs

          Here is where the Industry is now –

          10 Gigabit and not 1 Gigabit.

          Engineer here bud!

          • Dan

            If you are indeed a Engineer you should learn the difference between the terms analog and digital.

            You are a worry..

            • Jabs

              Why don’t YOU explain it to us here?

              All my thirty plus years of Industrial Engineering and coming first in my class at College has made me rather clueless – LOL. Yeah, brain rot too.

              Please, pretty please explain what both analog and digital are for this High School dropout and Internet poster – LOL!

              I am waiting with baited breath oh Master.

              Satisfied Dr. Clueless – PHD (Post Hole Digger)

          • William

            Do you know how I know you’re not an engineer?

            Ethernet over UTP is just as analog as ethernet over fiber. Or digital, depending on how you look at it. Couching your statements in these terms or even pretending they matter is a dead-giveaway that you have never taken a communications class.

            Also, “ethernet routers”? Really? Any idiot who has ever done real networking knows that you connect ethernet devices with ethernet SWITCHES and routers are only used to leave the LAN.

            — A random electrical engineer who was a network dude in a previous life

            • Jabs

              Hey – A Communication Class is for technicians AFTER the Engineers designed and set the Standards and got Government Approval.

              Wrong end of the food chain pal!

          • paf

            dude, wiring your d-link 4 port switch to your comcast modem and hp home server does not qualify your as an engineer. You have no vision to see the benefits of wired communication port, much less of idea of what you are talking about. I will skip pointing the errors in your senseless spam nor care for your reply (so don’t bother writing up another short story here in response to my comment) because as I learned in the past, arguing with you is a waste of time.

            And yes, inclusion of the ethernet interface brings oh so many possibilities! Marry that with a good software interface (SDK anyone?) and let it rock! Let’s just see how will “open” this technology but for now, I am intrigued!

          • Dean

            I’m sitting next to our data center. We use 10G ethernet over fiber as well as 1G over copper. As an Oracle DBA, I know that I/O performance is critical. Thats why the storage devices contain 100s of hard drives.

            Your connection is only as good as your storage layer, which is usually the bottleneck.

            Using a speed higher than 1G in a camera is probably a waste as the read/writes of the camera or source/destination pc may not saturate the network bandwidth.

            Most people would have to tune their pc OS to saturate a 1G connection when transferring a large amount of data. The majority of people leave all settings as default.

            In short, just because you increase your bandwidth to a speed over 1G does not mean that you will see any benefit on typical consumer products. I know there are exceptions. I have a SSD in my pc and get 500MB/s read and writes, but this is not typical.

            • Jabs


              One simple comment.

              Most Databases are not streaming large contiguous files that need to be absolutely delivered at a certain FIXED data rate, so completely different focus indeed.

              Small files need certain sub-systems and other systems such as Streaming Servers are quite different.

              Constant streams are totally different from small bursts of files being accessed randomly or are able to reside in MEMORY or cache.

              My example is Apple’s new Data Center that cost them over $1Billion US dollars in North Carolina built from the ground up for AUDIO and VIDEO plus Content Streaming over 3G and 4G speeds – think iCloud – and serving more connected people at speeds that are insane.

              At the higher end in Research computers, throughput is really much higher than Oracle based systems can deliver, so they use Linux as in customized 64bit Linux with much greater throughput as in a real 64bit low latency OS with low overhead. Therefore many processors are used in these systems and there multiple CPU’s are prevalent where as in the Basic Datacenters, they are more concerned with Licensing per processor fees or even per node and thus totally different scenarios.

              Cinema or high end Video bandwidth requirements are totally different from Databases, so please look up what Studios like Industrial Light and Magic use for a clue to these vast differences. They use totally different tools plus backbones as the bandwidth requirements are insane – remember 3D CONTENT running in real time = what NO basic Database can do so far. They store and access stuff but they basically stream stuff to redundant Servers in Real Time.

              That’s the Cinema Industry versus the Oracle crowd.

              Microsoft can’t do that either as too slow!

            • Dean


              I’m not really debating what you’re saying although your vision of an Oracle environment is generalized. I was not referring to the normal activity inside of a database nor database architecture. You have to consider data wherehouses, high availability solutions, batch jobs, replication, backups and recovery. It is not unusual to transfer multi-terabyte databases consisting of multiple datafiles over 50G each file file. Sustained network saturation is critical in situations like this so network adapter tuning along with file buffer tuning can yield great results but many servers are I/O bound. I did run into another DBA that was working on a SSD SAN in an enterprise environment. Simply crazy I/O. Also, we have a site license for Oracle and run it on AIX, Linux and Solaris so the high number of processors we have are of no concern.

              I was simply trying to say that 99% of professional camera end-users will not challenge the bandwidth limitation of 1G. Like I said, there are exceptions but as a manufacturer why increase manufacture cost to benefit a small percentage of users?

            • Jabs


              Thanks for the reply and no Database expert here – LOL

              I can follow almost any technical argument because of my Engineering background plus my profuse reading and comprehension skills – Thank God!

              The problem here is people trying to tell us some perceived advantage of a simple Ethernet connection and then go on to trump this as a breakthrough – GET REAL to them and not you!

              There are too many different scenarios and possibilities for anyone to now state this is inherently better than another, as you already KNOW!

              Same as the AMD vs Intel argument in Servers – depends on what you use it for, each has its’ own virtue and also failing or handicap.

              Same exact thing in cameras and thus people at the consumer end usually have no idea what goes on behind the scenes and since I work behind the scenes, I often give a peak here and then get pounced on. I simply leave them alone or wake their ignorant butts up to some facts.

              Consumers are basically ‘sheep’ and often spec chasers, so I don’t care as not in Marketing but in the Industrial environment where ONLY one thing counts – results plus performance!

              I basically fix people’s mess ups plus make idealized things WORK, and thus a specialist at that.

              I see Apple as pushing the envelope and Canon as conforming to an established workflow plus usage model and thus commendable for their customers but useless to me, as I already know how to do better than that.

              I wish that Intel would hurry up and give us the digital version of Thunderbolt via fiber optic cables, but it takes time to get consumers or even Industry stalwarts aware of an advantage technically when things are basically ran by clueless number crunchers with Degrees in Marketing and HYPE with little or no real understanding of what’s presented to tehm.

              Sometimes we have a ten cent problem and a ten dollar solution and at other times, we have a real problem and a ten cent solution – this Ethernet thing to me is a ten cent solution due to its’ popularity and BUZZ appeal.

              Continuing a tradition of mediocrity or leave things alone as is, instead of advancing the technology usually is how Canon is. Look at their basic cameras for a clue! Canon advanced to 16 megapixels in FF, then 21 megapixels in FF and basically stopped there!

              ONLY one competent camera since plus not even released yet and then contrast that with Nikon since 2007 and perhaps see things from my vantage point.

              Engineers basically think that Marketing people are crass morons while Marketing people think that Engineers are cave dwellers without a clue as to what will actually sell.

              The Engineers basically won in the new Canon body though the Marketing types included their own hype features as usual, but way less this time. This is what makes this Canon announcement so important for THEM and their loyal Pro users!

              Canon is actually back to life from being embroiled in Marketing madness and losing to Nikon in quality, performance and focus strategy perceptions = what is lost on most here!

            • Dean

              Thanks Jabs!

              I agree, 10G ethernet is old news. I’ve been using it in production for around 2 years and bonding (802.3ad) 1G connections for many prior years to bypass the 1G limitation.

              On the AMD vs Intel debate. I don’t really get into that. I just see that as cost vs. performance at this point. Intel is now dominating the server market over AMD by a sizable margin but if you need a low cost server and aren’t concerned with the highest performance in the x86 world then you get a bigger bang for your buck with AMD servers. Then again, we’re on the verge of ordering a bunch of new SPARC T4 servers for our web environment. Our x86 servers are mostly contained to our Windows environment, something I stay away from and have little experience with.

              I agree, Canon looks like they’ve caught Nikon on the high end for now but that’s only based on specs. It’s hard to say at this point that they’ve passed Nikon up since the D4 may make an appearance around the same time. At first glance of Canon’s specs I thought to myself that it seems rather pricey to step over the D3s by a relatively small margin. Again, by specs alone. I don’t see any game changing specs but rather an industry adapting to current standards.

            • Jabs

              @Dean – sorry to refer to you as Dan – lol.
              Forgive me!

              At least you understand what it is I am saying and are not basically clueless like most of the Canon or Sony inspired trolls here.

              Yeah, about the AMD vs Intel ‘thingie’ – lol

              AMD basically trumps Intel in real 64 bit applications as it has 128 bit and above addressing plus registers and throughput while Intel basically beats them in speed and now price/performance ratio all depending on what you use the Server or computer for.

              In the Top High Performance Ratings worldwide, AMD leads in more petaflop computer installations and systems than Intel in the top 10 or 20 and so touche’.

              My findings personally – I use an AMD processor for 64bit Linux as in Ubuntu Studio 64bit with the Real Time Kernel and I did an experiment. I used an Intel dual core processor to run Linux 64bit with versus an older 64bit AMD single core processor and the AMD consistently beat the Intel processor though it is dual core while they have the same speed in megahertz – LOL.

              In 64bit scenarios which neither Windows or Mac OS implements totally, then AMD kills Intel. In the hybrid 32-64 bit world of OS-X and Windows, Intel kills AMD.

              The same thing applies in SSD’s and SAS drives versus SATA-3 drives. Everything usually is determined by your application and your intended usage model and thus foolish people come here and spout generalized nonsense and you have to remind them that they are merely reading SPECS and worse yet, they don’t understand what the specs mean in REAL terms or usage. They are like parrots aping or repeating marketing hype like deranged automatons – lol.

              Robots in disguise – lol – old Transformers joke!

              I think that Canon might have gotten spooked by Nikon pulling even further away from them, so they pre-released something to keep their faithful fans happy or even placated. Remember Sony is breathing down their backs in the lower end and that they are behind Nikon significantly at the higher end, so maybe this explains their move. Anyhow, their problem, as I use Nikon’s but are happy for their advances as not some bitter individual but mellow until you tell me crap, then I let you have both barrels, if you know what I mean – lol.

              Happy until confronted, then like a ‘caged tiger’ biting your head off with rapid FACTS and not filthy words. Trained Industrial specialists here!

          • Jabs

            Here is where the Industry is going!

            Thunderbolt versus all the different connection topologies:
            Theoretical maximum speeds too!

            1. USB 2.0 = 480Mbs per second and single channel
            2. Firewire 800 = 800Mbs per second and single channel
            3. eSATA = 3Gbs per second and single channel
            4. USB 3.0 = 5Gbs per second and single channel
            5. Fibre Channel 8gb = 8Gbs per second
            6. Thunderbolt = 10Gbs per second in TWO channels feeding forward and backwards – meaning channels A and B times 2 or four basic channels of 10Gb per second.

            Bi-directional 10 Gigabytes per second with two channels having each – two directions of 10 gigabyte throughput then.

            Now, can anything in Ethernet even approach this?

            Plus there is an already announced hard drive system from LaCie called the Little Big Disk Thunderbolt which I got this spec list from as it resides on my computer in a PDF plus downloaded it weeks ago.

            Go look for the information on the Web yourself.

            The past or the future – your call and also MY choice.

            • Jabs

              Oh well – never mind.

              Just read where there are now 40Gigabit and 100Gigabit Ethernet Routers/Switches at even faster speeds than the above – LOL


      • Hey, John (aka scared & jealous)

        What in the world are you doing here, when you clearly belong with your buddies over at CR? We don’t mind you coming over to admit that you guys were wrong all this time, but to gloat over the fact that Canon has finally seen the light after selling you guys snake oil for the last number of years is just plain foolish.

        I mean, I know you guys are thrilled to finally have a Nikon to fit all those ghastly white lenses, but come on β€” is this really the place you want to get so mouthy?

    • Jabs


      Time to get the ducks lined up and to sell your EVO for a D4 or D800 and go FF – lol

      Time for Nikon to lay a smackdown on Canon who is now chasing the D3S a few years late, perhaps.


      Vaporized Canon, but a great modern body FINALLY from Canon, but with that same cheap looking and slippery exterior finish.

      I think Sony and Canon will be the ones fighting now with both chasing the ever elusive Nikon Pro bodies – lol.

      Things are getting bloody since the D7000 showed who was boss in digital and then the Nikon 1 ran away from them in small cameras – lol.

      On to the future bodies now – Olympics 2012 – here we come.

      Weird that Nikon Rumors is reporting on a Canon body – LOL!

      • @Jabs,

        The EVO VIII is paid-off and I’ve already got a D4 account set-up. Just waiting to pull the trigger. There also some money in there for a few lenses we need to complete the kit. I’ve been very aggressive with gear acquisition. The D4 will be the icing on the cake and sweet it shall be.

        I’ve been shooting with the D700 to compliment our D7000s. I forgot just how amazing the D700 is, even at 3 year old tech. I would take the D700 over any new Canon, any day. Let alone a D4. At base ISO, the D700 seems equivelent to about 16-18MP in Canon terms. I can easily up-sample the D700 and D3s to 16MP without any loss in IQ.

        Regarding Canon’s ergonomics and style…..meh. slippery and plasticky. The rubber on the grip is not soft and is very slippery – the rubber on my D7K has more grip. The ergonomics are a nightmare, too. Nikon has everybody handily beat in the build/ergonomics category. I see Canon is sticking with their cheap ergonomics for the 1D X, too.

        • Jabs


          Just teasing you – yeah the upcoming Canon is indeed a treat of technology and features but also waiting on Nikon’s announcement as Nikon already crafted and tested their new bodies just like Canon has.

          Dogfight indeed.

          Canon had better ergonomics and feel before they went to their EOS system from their former FD lens lineup and I have hated it ever since. They called it fluid and sensuous – lol – back then and I call it ‘slippery when wet” – LOL.

          Let me behave!

          Try an old Canon F1n as to see what Canon was like then and compare that to today’s Canon.

          Me, personally I welcome every new improvement and development but as far as I am concerned Nikon has had the ergonomics done better than anyone else and maybe only Contax came close once but using Nikon’s for so long has spoiled me.

          I have a friend who is selling their D700 when the replacement comes, so maybe I will look into that too, but prefer the D3S size better as I never liked to shoot with a body without an MD, as balance is way off to me.

          Nice that your D4 kitty is ongoing and that you have the luxury of using two of the best cameras on the market – keep well.

          • @Jabs

            Lol…. I hear ya!

            I prefer the Pro bodies (I.e. D3s, D3x) as well, but the D700 with excellent MB-D10 battery grip is almost as wide and slightly taller than the the D3 series. I’ve shot with the D3s and currently a D700 gripped and I like them both. The controls are laid out about the same, but the gripped D700 has the added grip joystick for verticle use, wheras the D3 series doesn’t. The D3 series has a slightly chunkier feel, due to being slightly wider. All-in-all, the D3 series is just a wonderful machine and I’m expecting the D4 to be even better. Don’t get me wrong, the D700 is a wonderfully machine, too. Even my D7Ks with the MB-D11 grips feel great to me, although much smaller and lighter.

            I welcome Canon’s improvement as it will cause Nikon to step up their game and we all win for that. God knows Canon’s had a long time to work on the 1D X. Lol.

            In the mean-time, the 12MP D700/D3s and the 16MP D7000 are just fine and still lead the industry today. I’m not complaining with the results I’m getting with these fine bodies.

            • Jabs


              Thanks for your reply – when is your next Guest Post coming up?

              Yeah, there are many here who try and trump this feature over the other and then it is obvious that they never use any camera whatsoever, so I often just ignore them or fuss at them.

              Personally, I am sick of people complaining about the weight of camera bodies as it is so pathetic. GET a spine I say – lol – or some muscles or a clue perhaps.
              Lens weight is another REAL issue, so then why don’t they complain about that?

              What I like about the one piece Pro bodies is that they have a certain heft to them that counterbalances your lens and makes shooting verticals so easy. Have done that since the F3 days with MD4 and Mk-1 adapter below it with a vertical shutter release and thus the D3 series is exactly like that hence familiar scenario.

              I actually like the D7000 but hate DX, as it causes me to rethink focal length and such, so that’s all I don’t like. When I physically put a lens on a body as primarily a prime lens shooter, I have in my mind what look I want and thus DX destroys that for me. I am interested in the D700 of an associate because of the condition of it mainly – few clicks as the person is a rich newbie and thus an opportunity to try that, but they don’t have an MD, so perhaps will use that fact to determine what to do.

              Enjoy your shooting!

            • @Jabs

              No worries man! I try and respond whenever I can, I’ve been really busy lately. I stepped away from my current project for a bit today to follow the Canon EOS 1D X news.

              I’m currently working on a fairly large review that I think a lot of readers will appreciate. It’s taken me awhile due to the sheer size of this project. Lots of images and even more writing. I will be wrapping this one up in the coming weeks – but then on to another one. These will keep me busy for a bit. On top of these projects, we’re still shooting client work and trying to enter the stock photography world.

              I like DX for macro and long telephoto work and prefer FX for it’s low-light performance and shallow Depth of Field (everything else). Due to this, we’ll always shoot with both DX and FX. They both have their advantages.


            • Jabs


              Yeah – thanks again for the replies and your voice of reason and sensible recourse here.

              Good to hear of the new upcoming Reviews as this place needs more, but with rumored announcements coming up, you might be squeezed out – lol.

              I started with film, mainly slides and the F3 was my first real camera, so spoiled from that. I prefer primes and long lenses, but often have to shoot with 24mm in tight quarters. For macro work, I usually preferred the 55mm Macro as that met my requirements. I shoot a lot of stainless steel and equipment, so I need lots of portable flashes and Nikon alone synced them all together from manual flashes to TTL.

              I looked at a few DX bodies, but not interested for any type of shooting with them, as I think in FX only. I use Nikon P&S, so understand the differences, but for serious stuff only FX does it for me. The problem is it is so expensive – lol.

              I also want to get back into film shooting also with probably an F5, as like the removable heads and body look plus heft. D4 and F5 for probably next year and this year probably an AW100 and a V1 with maybe one or two lenses. I have been weaned on removable lenses and thus fixed lens cameras without a zoom are useless to me in my work, as I can’t always back up.

              Keep shooting and thanks for your replies and insight – have fun and greetings to the Missus too. Let me know when Stock takes off and where you decided to go plus why, as very interested in that Market for perhaps next year, myself.

  • canon set the bar pretty good there… 400k shutter life? dang lol.

  • Damn! Great camera. I can’t wait to be blown away by Nikon’s new set of cameras, both FX and DX. πŸ˜€


    • pj


  • jerl

    Nice work Canon, finally you come up with a good response for the D3s, but it’s definitely a good one. I’d expect the D4 to be similar in specs, but at the rate Nikon is going, who knows when we will see it.

  • Bips

    I thought it will me 5D Mark III .I saw something about that with Chase Jarvis

  • Fx Fan

    A long time ago —-

    Nikon always waited for Canon to go first then they came out a bit latter with a
    more refined offering —

    Have they (Nikon) returned to this follow me approach ?

    • To be a great leader, sometimes you have to follow; because after all great followers make great leaders. I forget who said that but let me assure you it was a very wise person.

      • To be a great leader, sometimes you have to follow;

        It’s called plagiarism

        • Photography?

          Follow as follow behind Canon’s product release, with a product release of their own….

  • Paul

    So Canon made the jump from 1D-IV to 1D-X? What happened to 1D-V?
    Does this mean Nikon D10,000???

    • The official write-up says this is a replacement to both the 1Ds and 1D lines. No 1D-V. This is a brand new thread, replacing both of the previous models.


      • mm.. perhaps now we see both nikon and canon going the route of having a speed-oriented full-sized body backed up by a resolution oriented smaller body. so canon will have the 1DX and 5DMkiii, nikon with the D4 and D800.. just a possibility

        • You could be correct, Benjamin. There are so many questions still swirling around. I believe it all amounts to one thing: exciting times ahead!

  • Hey, Admin β€”

    I think it’s supposed to say: “400,000 Shot Rated Shutter” instead of “400,000 Shot Rated Sensor“, no?

    Had me confused for a bit until I read the official Canon PR.

  • OMR

    Who cares D800 or D4x,,,,, With my D5100 with 35mm 1.8 I will move the world.

    Thanks Nikon

    • No Mr OMR

      That’s a bad combination. The 35/1.8 consistently misfocus on my D5000 body, i sold both couple of months ago. I really want it to work as both are small and i could keep with me at all times.

    • Moth Flopwell

      U go there DX girl…have fun producing ok shots. IT is ok being a bush, when you can’t be a tree!!! lol

  • Gordon

    Nice specs although it won’t be available until another 5 months. I wonder if this move by Canon is a pre-emptive strike against any possible Nikon announcement? Do Canon normally announce bodies so far away from being available?

    • I had the same question (in regards to how far in advance this announcement apparently is).

      I will say I too am impressed by the specs. It sounds like Canon took a page out of Nikon’s playbook so they could finally get back on track with being true competition to the N. πŸ˜‰

      I’m very interested to see the sample images. In 5 months. Long after Nikon has released the D4 and D800. hehe.

      • Gordon

        Looking back at the 1D Mk IV release, there was only a 2 month wait between announcement and reported availability as per Canon’s press release.

        When the D3S and 1D MkIV were announced there was only a 5 day difference between press releases.

        • This certainly feels like a nervous lashing out on Canon’s part, especially considering the “due out in Summer of 2012” gag. Maybe they caught the rumblings about a 36mp D800, and decided to take a hard left to confuse all the Canon guys long enough to keep them from jumping. Oh yeah, and, what’s the announcement that is supposed to happen later this month? Printers? Video related gear? EOS namesake?

          All I know is, this is getting fun.

          One thing is for certain after reading both the comments here and at CanonRumors: these camera companies couldn’t please any more than 50% of photographers at a time (that may be generous), even if they included a satchel full of gold bullion with every camera purchase. It’s “too many megapixels”, or “too little noise”, or “too much video”, or “not enough frames per second”, or “too high a price”, or “too small a body” or….blah Blah BLAH!!!!

          I’m so glad my clientele aren’t photographers. Sheesh!

          • Ron, you know, I respect you and your amazing work. So, I wish to ask: do you feel that most photographers (in my view β€” 96%) are absolute scumheads? I found that conversations with togs are annoying in every aspect. There are very few of them which are truly interesting people. What do you think?

  • Don Pope

    What are these f/2.8, f/4 and f/5.6 cross type sensors?

    • Ben

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • 8.45 Microns

      I’m interested in this, too.

      If shooting a 1DX at f/2.8, which AF sensors are active? What’s the location of such active sensors? What is AF sensor type for same? What layout(s) are possible with such active sensors?

      Given the well-known problems with prior 1D model AF performance, I think a fair number of Canon shooters are wondering, too.

      AF performance is a Nikon strength; will Canon catch the D3S AF-performance, particularly in high-temperature or low-light environments? I have my doubts; we shall see.

  • Spacenoodle

    Video specs look better and better for Canon, Nikon seems to be dragging its feet in the video department. Really hope the D800 comes out with Video that can match / will be on par with the 5D Mk III

    • IanZ28

      The D7000 video quality is almost on par with the 5d and 7d and exceeds the 1ds whatever.

      There is a very thorough video test with all the super high end movie producer setups (and they included DLSR’s) that was hosted by vimeo. I can’t find the link now but it was quite enlightening.

      • Is this what you’re looking for?:

        The Great Camera Shootout 2011

        The D7k does a fantastic job, and I don’t hesitate to say it is 100% on par with (or even exceeding) the quality of the 7d. As for the 5d, I keep thinking it must have the edge over the D7k β€” being a full frame sensor β€” but then I get footage to cut from the 5d, and I’m constantly let down. It’s got some pretty serious flaws, and noise isn’t its strength. Not only are noise levels significant in low light scenarios, it looks downright atrocious. It’s not organic at all β€” it definitely has a ‘digital’ look to it. By far the best, most organic noise I’ve seen so far comes from the D3s. After that, I’ll put my stamp on the D7k. It looks pretty organic despite it’s obvious limitations of pixel density compared to the D3s. It beats the T2i/T3i/7d hands down.

        It’s a myth that Canon has the edge in video quality.

        • IanZ28

          That is definitely the link I was looking for.

          I was extremely surprised to say the least. Surprised on multiple fronts:
          Canon wasn’t much (or any?) better than the D7000 (obviously subjective)
          How good and bad film looks (very scene dependent)
          How good and bad dSLR video is

          I was amazed at how closely dSLR’s emulate the video from $100,000+ setups. I was also surprised at how poorly dSLR video was for resolution due to compression artifacts.

          With the ethernet connection this 1d x might address some of the compression issues not to mention the ability to output video stream to an external storage device. Would be quite impressive given the price!

        • Eduardo B.

          Hollywood industry doesn’t think it’s a myth. Also the advertising agencies in Brazil only uses canon gear when shooting ads in digital.
          I use nikon gear for photography because I think in that department Nikon is the king, but Im not a blind fanboy that ignores the fact that so far in video department Canon rules.

          • Eduardo B.: “Hollywood industry doesn’t think it’s a myth…Im not a blind fanboy that ignores the fact that so far in video department Canon rules

            Whatever you are, you are not looking closely enough. (at all?)

            Take a look at the Zacuto tests. Nikon is performing quite admirably. Indeed, looking at the third installment of the DLSR Shootout (of which I’ve only been able to see the first half since the embedded video is loading like a dog), the Nikon actually performs BETTER than the 5d and 7d in rolling shutter artifacts. That is to say, in a controlled environment, with limited variables (despite the few mistakes that were made in administering some of the tests), Nikon is showing measured results that best the Canons. Don’t take my word for it, go see for yourself.

            This is the problem. Someone hears a ‘fact’, and from that moment on it IS fact, at least in their mind. Often times it becomes so without any effort on the hearer’s part to challenge the validity of the fact or the means by which one arrived at it.

            I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it againΒ β€” Nikon is neck and neck with Canon. Canon has spent loads more money making themselves the darling of the VSLR category, and I will openly admit they’ve played things well with full manual controls and firmware upgrades early on. Aside from this, they are easily on the run from their biggest threat and closest competitor, Nikon.

            • Eduardo B.

              I am not saying Nikon’s video quality is not good. I’m saying because Canon introduced video first they are now industry standart (at least here in Brazil). So in order to change that being as good as canon or a little better is not enough. Nikons has to be unquestionably better. Nowadays every producer or director dont even consider anything that is not Canon when shooting something. Do you agree or understand?
              Again, at least in Brazil but I beliave also in the US.

              By the way, really interesting the Zacuto test. Thanks for the link.

            • @Eduardo B

              Canon did NOT introduce the first DLSR with video capabilities. It was NIKON, with the D90. Sorry. Nikon’s current DSLR cameras might lack a few option, but their video does look better than Canon’s. Especially 1080P 24FPS.

            • Eduardo B.

              Dont need to be sorry, ironic or mad. But when I mean the first to introduce video I thought it would be obvious that we should only consider industry standart 1080p.

            • Eduardo B.

              Standard, sorry.

            • “I thought it would be obvious that we should only consider industry standart 1080p”

              As I’ve often said before, this is an assumption that is so foreign to me (at least) and likely many more here.

              Canons shoot 60fps at 1280 x 720, and nobody takes issue with that. Why? It’s EXACTLY the same. But they cut this footage in with the 1080p footage all day long and don’t seem to be hindered by the fact that it’s not ‘standard’.

              In other words, the notion that Canon is king of video is pure hype. Hype by uneducated photographers and filmmakers, hype by clients, and hype by Canon. Nikon produces SPECTACULAR video, and when clients insist that we shoot Canon, I politely educate them why the Nikon is the superior choice, show a few examples if necessary, and move on. Period. There isn’t some huge chasm between Nikon and Canon in the video realm as most people (even intimidated Nikon shooters) would have you believe.

            • By the way, your welcome for the link. Make sure you watch all three. They’re all as interesting and informative as the last.

            • Eduardo B.

              I propably shouldn’t be arguing anymore because this is getting boring and obviously you dont understand what I say. I’m not discussing who does better video. I’m just saying that people involved in ads and filming here in my country uses Canon 99% of the time.(I think also in the US). Period. Fact. Go out there and see for yourself. When I say industry standart that means the producers and directors go after Canon. If you go to a rental house here they only have Canon to rent. And even if a bunch of Nikon’s fanboys came there with a lot of arguments and videos and etc showing them that Nikon is 10% better in these and that it won’t change that fact! Maybe Nikon should pay you to go arould the world to educate people.

        • 8.45 Microns

          “By far the best, most organic noise I’ve seen so far comes from the D3s.”


          The D3S sensor pitch — 8.45 microns — helps here.

          I, for one, I’m surprised with Canon’s choice — 6.95 microns — for the 1DX.

      • Zacuto (for some reason, that name stuck in my head, so it’s easy to find):

  • Notice that Canon has essentially abandoned the high megapixel race for its flagship, going only with 18 MP, not 20+? It makes me wonder about the logic of the supposed 36 MP of the supposed D800. Most likely, the 5DIII will be the high megapixel body, heck, the MKII already is. I’m not arguing in favour of ridiculously high MP counts, just pointing it out. The most I want to see on a D4 is 18 MP


    • My guess is the D4 will be between 18-24mp, but the performance should be spectacular. As for the 36mp number, it still has created more questions than answers. Hopefully Admin is correct in his 99% rating, and we’ll have some answers either way in the next week or two.

      Begun, it has.

    • PHB

      Looks like a mistake to me.

      First off, take a look at the asterisk that follows the ‘native ISO 100-51200’. What does that mean? If that means ‘we got high ISO by ignoring the resulting noise level’ then people are not going to be happy.

      But that aside, the D800 is taking in more information. So the output may yet beat it at the high ISO settings after post-processing.

      • Let’s give credit where credit’s due. Canon has made the right decision here by all indications. It had to take some serious doses of Lorazepam to keep the top execs on course with a decision like this. I mean, there are so many implications with this strategy to cut pixels from their flagship camera, implications which will be both immediate and long-term. The perceived benefits have to outweigh the disadvantages by a pretty large margin or this move will serve to do nothing but disappoint their core customers, further driving them toward other brands.

        Canon has made a valuable decision for themselves as well as for the photographic market in general. This may do some good in damning up the way for Sony with their obscene obsession with resolution, and will certainly make way for more relevant image quality improvements, such as high-ISO, color fidelity, dynamic range, video quality, and even other features such as autofocus, ergonomics, etc.

        I have no doubt that Canon will have a great machine on their hands, assuming they haven’t cut corners as you note.

        In essence, the numbers sound about right, so if they’ve botched this pro body, it could make a dent in their hull even more massive than the one they’ve suffered over the last 3 years. I hope for their sake that’s not the case.

        • Jabs

          @Ron Adair

          Good points about this camera but I fear that many Canon Pros might not like it since they have been weaned on crop sensor bodies lately and thus the purchase of this expensive camera will necessitate some expensive long glass to compensate unless they have a DX mode like Nikon in there.

          Good to see Canon finally stepping away from that megapixel madness but will their loyal users like it or see them as becoming more like Nikon???

          You know what happens when a car manufacturer drops the engine size when they previously bragged about engine capacity even when the horsepower is greater in the smaller engine?

          You can’t brag about 18megs when you just stepped down from 21 and Nikon already has 24megs of better quality. Maybe they are counting on their Video performance, perhaps!

          Hope that does not deter their loyal fans.

    • Moth Flopwell

      When Nikon Announces..when? when? lol

      but when Nikon announces their new FX line up….

      The Nikon D4 will be 24mp
      The Nikon D800 will be 36mp

      I have a friend of a friend, who is friends with that guy down the street at Sendai, who has seen the new D4 24mp. lol

  • Longzoom

    18 MP FF is what I am asking Nikon for, to safe all of my glass, but looks like only Canon is listening to me…

  • These specs sounds like an overkill from canon, they might be too desperate trying to top the D3S which is N years older and probably thought they could also top the future release of the D4. Smart move but a desperate one. 12-14 fps is like shooting still movies 9-10 should be just about right. Nikon has the upper-hand here and i hope they release the spec that we “need” not “want”. Overkill specs just takes the fun out-of-shooting when the toy does the thinking for ya. Just my thought.

    • Overkill, how? I’m no fan of Canon β€” if you’ve spent more than 13 minutes on this site you’ll know I’m not joking. However, I have to say: these specs sound pretty much dead on for what one might expect for a quality imaging machine, and I’m hopeful Canon has finally chosen to focus on quality instead of quantity.

      I’m holding judgement until it’s in the wild. I’m curious to know what you deem “desperate”, or “overkill”?

      • LGO

        Canon’s new tack is very much like Nikon which leaves me wondering how Nikon will respond should Canon adopt the same approach for its APS-C bodies?

        We all expect that Nikon can match the Canon 1D-X when its D4 is released but what about the APS-C market?

        Note that Nikon has sourced its APS-C sensors primarily from Sony and Sony’s new sensor is the 24mp APS-C sensor now used in its A77 and NEX-7.
        Many are expecting Nikon to use the Sony 24mp APS-C sensor on the D300/D300s successor but given Canon’s new approach, it would be a big mistake for Nikon to do that.

        Unless Nikon can source a better-performing sensor than the Sony 16mp and 24mp APS-C sensor, Canon can take the high-ground in the APS-C market if it introduces releases an APS-C sized sensor that uses the same design and technology used in the sensor of its new Canon 1D-X.

        I will be keenly looking at what sensor the D300/D300s-successor will have. If it uses the Sony 24mp APS-C sensor, then Nikon’s DX product line will have some tough times ahead once Canon releases its new sensor design technology on its next new generation of APS-C bodies.

      • 8.45 Microns

        “However, I have to say: these specs sound pretty much dead on for what one might expect for a quality imaging machine …”

        You may be right. But, I will be interested to see the 1DX low-light and AF performance. With a 1DX sensor pitch of 6.95 microns and with unknown AF performance — after all, the 1D line has had well-documented AF performance problems — I am skeptical here. Very skeptical.

        I just read the message forums over at; there’s a fair amount of skepticism in the posts to date there, too.

        I’ll wait for images from — and a detailed review of — the 1DX before reaching any conclusions.

      • I think it is clearly stated on my post Ron πŸ™‚

        • But it’s not. None of what you’ve said sounds desperate or overkill to me. Ok, maybe desperate in the sense that they’re trying ‘desperately’ to get back to a logical position in the market. But certainly not desperate in the traditional sense, which is what it sounds like you intend to mean.

          Canon has made a very wise move, and my guess is that Nikon will be offering a body very much within the parameters of these specs. I don’t doubt the Nikon will perform better, but the playing field has become much more focused. And as I’ve said elsewhere, this is a GOOD thing. Canon deserves a pat on the back.

          As PHB has said, this could be a bit of a stretch on their part by amping up their numbers, but I think by looking at the logical data one could conclude that they have a shot at actually producing great images at the specs given (100-51,200ISO, FF sensor, 18mp). These numbers are on par for where the tech is today. I don’t think it’s wise to argue that it’s not, at least not until we can see examples that contradict this notion.

          So no, I don’t think this sounds at all like overkill. This sounds like a healthy dose of good, old-fashioned ‘regularkill’.

          • IanZ28

            I agree with you 100% Ron.

            I am very impressed with the stats on paper. Can’t wait to see some raw files from it.

            And, I can’t wait to see what Nikon does with the D4

    • Moth Flopwell

      The Nikon DX D7000 out performs the D3s in video. 1080p vs 720p….

  • I’m much more excited to see the video improvements than I thought I would be. That’s exciting to me as well! Nikon will have to rival, or at least try to rival, their video in their D4/D800/D400 models. So, this should be fun! πŸ˜€


  • erth

    Looks as though Canon is going for the low noise high ISO route on this release. Smart move. This kind of resolution is what I had hoped the D800 would be.

  • “EOS iTR AF (Intelligent Tracking & Recognition Auto Focus)”

    because “3D Focus Tracking” was already taken =P

    • IanZ28

      Hahaha…. Nice Benjamin.

      One of the few times Nikon actually beat out Canon in marketing gimmicks.

  • Gordon

    Just some added information about Nikon/Canon prior release dates

    Nikon D3s: 14th October 2009
    Canon 1D Mk IV: 19th October 2009

    Nikon D3: 23rd August 2007
    Canon 1D Mk III: 21st February 2007

    Nikon D700: 1st July 2008
    Canon 5D Mk II: 17th September 2008

    Maybe we’ll see a D4 and D800 dual announcement like the D3 & D300 in 2007.

    • thanks for the dates Gordon, added to the post

      • Gordon

        No worries. I’ve often thought this release information should be part of a reference table and added to the site. Would help give historic context to future rumours and releases.

  • If you compare these specs to the D800 specs, you’d almost think that Nikon’s engineers have all gone over to Canon and vice versa. Grass is greener, anyone?

    • Unlikely to happen in Japan’s company loyalty driven culture.

    • I had the same thought, if the D800 comes with 36MP sensor Nikon will be the new MP joke.

      • Eduardo B.

        Yes! If 36mp is true Nikon is lost…

        • no-nikon-no

          yes nikon! 36mp and iso512 (five hundred and twelve)!

      • Murphys_Law

        What if this 36MP sensor has 18MP of native ISO 200 pixels interleaved with 18MP of native ISO 50 pixels. That would give us 18MP pictures with more dynamic range. That could enable single exposure HDR pictures and really low noise. I think that Fuji had a 12MP sensor that had an architecture like that in the past but it was not popular because it gave only 6MP pictures and people preferred real 12MP sensors.

        But now that sensor resolution approach the limit of the lenses, maybe most people would be willing to sacrifice some resolution to get better dynamic range and noise performance.

      • Dual 18mp sensors?

      • @Admin “I had the same thought, if the D800 comes with 36MP sensor Nikon will be the new MP joke.

        I disagree. If Nikon’s 36mp is anywhere near their 24mp sensor in the D3x, we should be seeing some phenomenal results. It was strides past the 5dMkii in resolution, and quite a leap ahead in image quality. Nikon has had a lot more practice in both high-density sensors as well as high-ISO/low-noise. I’m convinced that their troubles early on β€” especially in the D2 era β€”Β has led to some incredible learning opportunities that have definitely translated to real-world results.

        36mp from Nikon could simply turn out to mean the highest quality, highest resolution DSLR sensor on the market for years to come. Again.

        • AnoNemo

          Hey you all missing the point!!!
          This 1Dx is for REPORTERs!!!! It is the same class as the D3s which is for journalists who do not need high mp but good low light and speed.

          The D800 and 5DIII will be the studio high res camera.

          • broxibear

            Hi AnoNemo,
            You’re right I think both Nikon and Canon are splitting their cameras, this Canon and the D4 are going to be for stills photographers who need the speed and high iso but not the high spec video capability. I know a number of photojournalists and sports photographers, they all use Canon and none of them use video, they’ll love this new 1D X. Have a look at the next F1 race or football match… the vast majority of sports photographers are Canon users. Much of this was due to Canon bringing out their 1D camera well before Nikon joined with the D3…those who switched from Nikon to Canon then never went back and got used to Canon equipment, I have friends who did exactly that.
            The D800 and 5D Mark III will be the video feature rich cameras.

            • AnoNemo


              Yep, the D800 and 5DIII (or 3D) will target a different segment where you do not need this speed but may need higher resolution.

              I think Nikon and Canon realized based on the sony 24mp FX that this segment does not want to carry a brick.

            • AnoNemo

              Ooops I meant broxibear. πŸ™‚

          • Jabs


            You got so accustomed to arguing with me, that you had a slip.

            Hope it was not a so-called Freudian slip – LOL.

            Everything’s cool or copasetic.

      • Gordon

        I have to disagree, if Nikon follow through with the same level of quality and detail with a D800 as they have with their other pro bodies, I think the 36MP will be winner if it delivers the goods. I can envisage many photographers that seek detail flocking to such a body, much like how many flocked to the 5D MkII.

        If Nikon pair a D4 with a D800 release, one for the pro’s seeking high FPS and ISO performance, and those who are looking for a high MP and low ISO performance, it will be a killer combo.

  • Eduardo B.

    I think Nikon is sleeping… The thought they would be the high iso king forever and they blew it now…

    • Mark

      How do you figure that? None of us have much more than an guess as to what Nikon is going to produce. They’ve blown nothing. They just havent shown their hand just yet.


    • JED

      You can’t tell much about the ISO performance of this camera by looking at the specs. Remember the Canon 1d Mk 4 offered ISO 100K and it was beyond awful at that level. Just because they rate this one to 200K does not mean it is usable.

      • Gabe

        Yeah, but 1D IV is a APS-H camera, with significantly smaller surface. 1D X has huuuuge pixels.

  • photographer

    This is surely going to be an excellent camera, but I expect a major negative reaction from actual Canon shooters (as opposed to forum trolls) who have been working with the half cropped sensor of the 1d4… and claiming that they liked it.

    I have just spent a weekend shooting with a D7000 after 3 years with the D3x, and such a change of crop is highly disruptive. The opposite will be true as well and even more so for the target sports shooters if the 1DX. Those guys are real athletes with a very tuned routine and they don’t like change too much… it will take a major leap forward in terms of image quality/AF to counter-balance the negatives.

    The landscape guys will also not be very happy since they will still not be getting a camera able to compete head to head with the 3 years old D3x in terms of pixel count. The 5DIII might solve that, but it isn’t pro specced enough for the tough usage of high end landscape shooting.

    This raises the question… does Canon still really care about the high end segment? Is this camera really more than a we-also-must-have-one flagship? Among existing Canon shooters, I am not too sure who will be totally satisfied by these specs. Interestingly, Nikon shooters might be more attracted to it since these specs very much look like a blunt acknowledgment that Nikon selected the right strategy 4+ years ago with the D3/D3s.

    Finally,… 5 months lead time between announcement and availability… this reminds me of the worst days of paper launching in the IT world.


    • Very insightful indeed. Agreed 100% now.


    • Eduardo B.

      What did you think about the D7000 after the weekend? I’m thinking of getting one… I have the D700 and want the D7000 for my backup body.

      • KnightPhoto

        @Eduardo – D7K is a great little backup to the D700 from ISO 100-1000.

        ISo 100-2000 can be dealt with using a little or a lot of work in PP.

        ISO 3200 no. Too noticeable when flipping back and forth between D700 and D7K images.

        • Eduardo B.

          Thanks, I will get one… I think 3200 on D7000 could be good depending on the size of the print…

      • Photographer

        Very happy with the D7000. The ISO 100 images are not totally as clean as those of the D3x, nor do they have the same micro detail, but they are fairly close.

        DR is excellent.

        I missed a bit the intertia of the D3x and the smaller pixel pitch makes it a challenge to fully tap into the resolution potential when shooting handheld with a non VR lens but I did shoot on tripod mostly with a RRS L bracket.

        Finally, I must say that I like the colors of the D7000 better than those of the D3x, at least when converting with C1 Pro 5.x.

        Overall it is a giant step forward compared to the 5 years old D80 it replaced.


        • I shoot Nikon

          ISO 100 images are not as clean?

          Does it get at any better at ISO 10?

    • Jabs

      @photographer – Bernard

      Yeah, absolutely true and insightful.

      You trump a feature for almost a decade and then do a 180degree now.

      Is this a gamble or finally realizing that you were wrong and then how do you micro-manage this with your loyal Pro shooters?

      Going from a cropped sensor world to full frame now means rethinking your shooting philosophy plus realigning and reallocating what lens you use and why too.

      Such a seriously disruptive challenge that Canon will probably have to have major Clinics for their Pro shooters to make them accustomed to its’ new thrusts and at a critical time like this just before the 2012 Olympics, perhaps that is one reason also why they pre-announced things so far ahead. Training their Pro shooters for the Olympics with a new system, perhaps.

      I wonder how many Canon Pros will take the plunge with the new system, as it reminds me of the disruptive results when Nikon went FF with the D3 series from the previously DX D2 series?

  • Chris

    Hopefully Nikon’s response is better than some point & shoots, delays, and price hikes.

  • Ken Fockwell

    Nikon has the ball and they better not throw up an airball!

  • mandrake

    I don’t think people come to NR totalk about floods.

  • KnightPhoto

    Can’t find an official Canon announcement anywhere – does anyone have a link (not for CanonRumors)?

  • Challenge for Nikon now, like me , a lot of users waiting for a new FF body. Well the price tag will make the way: imagine a 1D-X at $5.000,00 itΒ΄s a lot of still/video features, nice market move.

    IMHO Nikon will respond with flagship D4 body, wait and see.

  • Everything is planned in advance between Nikon and Canon – they just announced 70 million EF lenses, a day after Nikon announced 65 million Nikkor lenses:

    • Jabs


      Watching each other’s backs – the game between them for years now.

      Canon went first and Nikon is now in the ‘catbird seat’ – LOL.

      Canon blinked!

      Canon finally responded to the D3S – duuuh!!!

    • “October 18th: Canon announces 70 million Nikkor lenses”

      Admin, you might wanna fix the post…or it is really a breaking news…. lol

    • IanZ28

      I agree with this completely.

      I’ve long suspected that Nikon and Canon divulge a lot of their plans and general specifications in the executives offices. (And, this information would be shared years in advance.) Same is likely true about product announcements which are likely negotiated.

      If one steps back and looks at the two companies product lines and the way their cameras are announced it makes perfect sense. Bet it has been this way for a couple of decades at least.

  • Very impressive specs from Canon. Nikon tends to execute the same specs (or lower-sounding specs) better than Canon so I’m not worried, I am enthusiastic. πŸ™‚ As a landscape photographer I would love to see those 36 MP, esp. without an anti-aliasing filter. I have zero worries about Nikon leapfrogging Canon in the megapixel count because Nikon will undoubtedly deliver supreme quality. Market-leading. And for me, quality takes the day — the reason Canon’s high megapixel count didn’t work is due to their execution, not because of megapixel count in and of itself.

    At its core, Nikon executed better with fewer megapixels (D3/D3x/D300/D7000). And at high megapixels (D3x). I trust Nikon to execute better as well if they leapfrog Canon this time in megapixel count. Bring it on. I just pray that Nikon isn’t crippled by the recent flooding and other catastrophes they’ve unfortunately faced.

  • Hendog

    I love these specs. Would be a dream to have similar ones on the D800. Video on this slr from Canon will imo be by far the best so far from any dslr. Instead of intermittent pixel sampling as on the 5DMKII (far, far less processor intensive) it sounds as though it might use every pixel on the sensor and interpolate them down to HD resolution which would virtually eliminate moire and hugely increase low light performance in video. Yum. This will be the must have camera for wannabe RED users. As for stills, hopefully Nikon will come out on top.

  • Nikonuser

    Canonrumors actually posted the Nikon D3 viewfinder under the 1DX post!

  • sirin

    “Canon announces 70 million Nikkor lenses”


    • Nikonuser

      And they must be DX lenses, b/c it’s a 1Dx! πŸ˜‰

      We now know the camera comes with a Nikon viewfinder too.

      Hmm, 1Dx D1x ???

      • Nikonuser

        1Dx = D1x?

  • Jabs

    Congratulations Canon – welcome to 2011 from your deep sleep – glad to see a giant finally waken.

    NOW on to the D800, the D4 and the D4X – sorry Canonites, you now have to fight Sony, as Nikon is about to lay a smackdown on us all – lol

    Canon finally delivered after 3+ years – great.

    Bring it on!

    WHAT only 18megs – I’m switching to Leica as in an M3 – LOL.

    • IanZ28

      Leica ehhh?

      Hope you have a kidney to sell.

      • Jabs

        LOL – was merely aping the complainers here.

        Hate Leicas, basically – too old fashioned for my tastes as owned one ages ago.

        Prefer Nikon’s especially their Pro gear.

  • MGD

    let’s wait till samples come out from this new 1DX. the last time both nikon and canon released an ISO 100K camera. granted canon had a few more pixels, but the high ISO looks waaaay worse on DP Review’s samples and graphs, esp once you cross beyond 6400.

  • Eduardo B.

    Admin, if Nikon could deliver the D7000 with 25000 ISO (H2) and D3s with 104.000 ISO (H2) then I think they can easily make a FF cam with the same 51.000 native ISO. If that is possible there is no need to replace the SB-900 regarding only the overheating issue considering that we will be shooting 12000 ISO with almost no noise…

    • PeterT

      DidnΒ΄t know Nikon is employing wizards now… πŸ™‚

  • ktmglen

    Live video streaming over the Ethernet connection would be majorly cool.

  • Scoobysmak

    Well I admit to being a “back seat driver” on this one but I wouldn’t mind having 36 MP as an option, but understand people that don’t want it. I think both Cannon and Nikon will win some and lose some depending on what people “think” they need to take great photograps.

    I have too much glass to make a switch, the Cannon specs are nice but not enough for me. I can’t wait to see what Nikon shows up to the table with but honestly for me more practice and maybe some hand on instruction would improve my photos more than any other camera “upgrade” from my current D700 and D7000 (I would like to see a D7000 sensor in a D300 body just because it would match the controls of my D700 that I use most of the time).

    The specs are only half the picture, until either Nikon or Cannon actually gets these into the hands of the user specs are all on paper. Who knows maybe the Nikon’s 36MP has better ISO than Cannons 18MP, I would doubt this but only testing would prove it. Only then will we find out if the specs are accurate and reliablity has not been tossed out the window. I wouldn’t want a camera that has 36MP and the best ISO ever seen but only works for the first 5 times I pressed the shutter.

  • Ben

    Here’s my take:

    Nikon D4/Canon 1D-X = high ISO sports/photojournalism/wedding possibly
    Nikon D800/Canon 5D Mark III = high resolution studio/landscape
    Nikon D400 (full frame)/Canon (new full frame) = high ISO wedding/prosumer (low light)
    Nikon D7000/Canon 70D = amateur segment

    This makes the most sense to me. The rumors are the Mark III will also be very high resolution and that Canon will come out with a cheaper full frame camera comparable to the D700. With Nikon jumping up the D800 to 36MP it makes sense to me that Nikon is following a very similar path.

    • Ben: Why on erath do you expect D400 to be FF?

      • Benk

        Because Canon has been rumored to be coming out with a cheaper full frame camera and I think DX will officially become the amatuer sensor. I think there are fewer and fewer pros who want crop sensor cameras, so I think the D7000 will be the top of the line crop sensor camera for now on.

      • Ben

        I think a D400 FF would make a lot of sense if it had a DX mode. I personally would prefer to have options…

        • Benk

          All Nikon full frame cameras have a DX mode. So I wouldn’t worry about that. However, all that is doing is cropping down the image anyway.

  • Patience, grasshoppers, patience. Yes, Canon has announced a fantastic camera. But my D700 still allows me to capture great images. In the right hands the camera becomes irrelevant, and the image becomes everything.

  • Nikon

    Above “Related posts” …
    “October 17th: Nikon announces 65 million Nikkor lenses
    October 18th: Canon announces 70 million Nikkor lenses”

    Either way, Nikon wins πŸ™‚

  • D7000 Fan

    This is a Cannon D3s replacement!! Can’t wait for the nikon version!!

    14fps. . . I wish my D7000 did that.

  • hlshcd

    October 18th: Canon announces 70 million Nikkor lenses

    TYPO admin. EF lenses not Nikkor

  • Willie

    Just a humorous thought that just popped into mind:

    Now that Canon are using ” X ” to identify the body – is it a late acknowledgement of Nikons use of the same letter in it’s naming conventions?

    “FX” “DX” “CX”

    Can we now see an industry wide adoption of DX and FX ?


    • Willie

      Apologies for incorrect use of apostraphes

      • Hendog

        Apologies for the incorrect spelling of apostrophes also? :p

        I’d like for the D400 to be low light FX. A D700 sized “studio” or landscape camera just doesn’t make sense though. Smaller camera: weddings, gigs etc… LARGE camera: tripod use. If the D800 comes out as Nikon’s highest MP camera first, the landscape/studio people who actually have more money to dish out on more expensive equipment will be buying in to this cheaper option which leaves high MP D4x or whatever without any buyers in the future. This would be strange marketing. Hopefully D800 is not 36mp.

        • Benk

          Just like Canon is dumping their higher megapixel 1Ds line, I believe Nikon will be dumping their D#x line. The D800 will fill that gap and Canon’s Mark III will fill that gap for them.

  • Robert Falconer

    100,000 Pixel RGB Metering Sensor

    Someone enlighten me: Is this Canon’s first RGB Metering Sensor? I think it is.

    Patent must be up on the Nikon technology; just as Nikon finally adopted USM (aka SWM), now Canon has Nikon’s multi-pixel RGB sensor.

    • Jabs

      Actually neither of them are the same exact technologies.

      Canon does it its’ way and Nikon does it differently, so Patents are still in effect.

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