bmxdad said:
Thanks this was easier to understand than the mumbling from Hassy
Hasselblad wrote theirs trying to convince rich people and organizations that the cost was justified, so it needed to be mysterious and magical.
where there’s smoke there’s forum fire
Thanks NikoDoby!
And of course, I have a lot to learn.
Just on a sidenote check out http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor/(metrics)/
According to DxO, in terms of color depth, dynamic range, and low light ISO ranges, the best camera in the world is the Phase One P65 Plus. Nikon D3X comes in at #2, Phase One P40 Plus comes in at #3 then the D3 at #4 and D700 at #5. Canon 1Ds Mark III is #6 and the 5D Mark II is #7. Interestingly enough the Hasselblad H3DII 50 comes registers at #10 and the Hasselblad H3DII 39 comes in at #13.
Amazing that it takes 60 megapixels to overtake the D3X's 24! And even at that the Nikon lost by only 1 point!
kanuck said:
Just on a sidenote check out http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor/(metrics)/According to DxO, in terms of color depth, dynamic range, and low light ISO ranges, the best camera in the world is the Phase One P65 Plus. Nikon D3X comes in at #2, Phase One P40 Plus comes in at #3 then the D3 at #4 and D700 at #5. Canon 1Ds Mark III is #6 and the 5D Mark II is #7. Interestingly enough the Hasselblad H3DII 50 comes registers at #10 and the Hasselblad H3DII 39 comes in at #13.
Wow that is quite the feat for the Nikon D3X, could you imagine Nikon actually making a MF camera with what they have learned from the D3X,
Pete
What time do you have over there
Yeah Nikon is capable of working some incredible magic into their cameras!
bmxdad <a href="http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?
What time do you have over there
Who me?
Yes why not
Pete
It's a quarter past time for you to buy a watch :^)
Seriously though I think image stacking is a very good idea. My Sony HX1 has something similar called handheld twilight mode. The results are very impressive.
Hey Pete it's 11:30pm Korean time now. I always post when others are in bed I'm sure haha Yes the D3X must be one amazing camera to blow away all three of the Hasseys! 3 of the top 5 are Nikon cameras and remember this is based on color depth, dynamic range and low light iso! Talk about quality for your buck. The D3s is not even rated yet, but I'm sure it will crack the top 10 as well maybe even top 5. Gotta love Nikon.
By the way NikoDoby beautiful moon shot or is that the new Nikon Digital Camera watch I've been hearing about on the rumors page (>_<) It looks like its telling me to go to bed now..
kanuck said:
Hey Pete it's 11:30pm Korean time now. I always post when others are in bed I'm sure haha Yes the D3X must be one amazing camera to blow away all three of the Hasseys! 3 of the top 5 are Nikon cameras and remember this is based on color depth, dynamic range and low light iso! Talk about quality for your buck. The D3s is not even rated yet, but I'm sure it will crack the top 10 as well maybe even top 5. Gotta love Nikon.By the way NikoDoby beautiful moon shot or is that the new Nikon Digital Camera watch I've been hearing about on the rumors page (>_<) It looks like its telling me to go to bed now..
Or just getting out of bed in the morning, do you miss Vancouver with all the rain they had lately, but they did get lots of show in Whistler also
Yes Nikon makes great gear, one of my co-workers that works part-time in our printing Lab and also shots weddings, family pics part-time just moved over to Nikon after I had showed her my D300, she typical got a Canon for Family pics, then someone gave her an Olympus DSLR, just basic stuff, then she started to get noticed for her ability to shot great pictures, and she wanted to upgrade, she had printed some of my pictures and asked me what I was using. Anyway got the D300 a few lenses, SB900 flash, and after learning how to get the most out of her new camera, absolutely love the camera. Her other stuff is getting sold and she is getting another body for her back-up
Pete
BTW I will invite her to visit NR
kanuck said:
Yes the D3X must be one amazing camera to blow away all three of the Hasseys! 3 of the top 5 are Nikon cameras and remember this is based on color depth, dynamic range and low light iso! Talk about quality for your buck.
Unless you had more money than you knew how to spend, I don't know why you'd want a hasselblad. You could get such an amazing Nikon kit for the price of even one of the Hassy backs it's almost mind-blowing.
bmxdad said:
Anyway got the D300 a few lenses, SB900 flash, and after learning how to get the most out of her new camera, absolutely love the camera. Her other stuff is getting sold and she is getting another body for her back-upPete
BTW I will invite her to visit NR
I love happy endings.
And the Hassy is difficult to use, just like a Cannon
Pete
kanuck said:
Just on a sidenote check out http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor/(metrics)/According to DxO, in terms of color depth, dynamic range, and low light ISO ranges, the best camera in the world is the Phase One P65 Plus. Nikon D3X comes in at #2, Phase One P40 Plus comes in at #3 then the D3 at #4 and D700 at #5. Canon 1Ds Mark III is #6 and the 5D Mark II is #7. Interestingly enough the Hasselblad H3DII 50 comes registers at #10 and the Hasselblad H3DII 39 comes in at #13.
Wow if we follow this chart, the Nikon D3X is actually pretty friggen cheap.
Not to mention the D700 at #5.
Hass-Mass is using technology similar to one used in sensor cleaning piezo motors built in most new Nikon cameras so I suppose multi-shot can be implemented also. The only thing is I suspect Hass is using electronic shutter available in CCD sensors. Advantage is there is no Bayer interpolation drawbacks and true (not bigger) image resolution.
By the way some professionals are still using old Hasselblad film cameras; some are using them with Nikon gear though, scanners actually, to get around 85Mpix images with better dynamic range and without Bayer array drawbacks so go figure.
Perhaps as a pro who works for a magazine feels the pressure to purchase and use what is widely considered the industry leader (Hasselblad) therefore, they purchase one without any consideration towards a D3X or even a Eos1 Mark III. I'm sure a lot of professionals are still using Hasselblad film cameras. I see a lot of them for sale in my camera district for excellenet prices $800-$2200 USD.
With this DxO chart in mind, where do you think the D3s would slide in? With its otherworldly high ISO range its probably going to give the D700 the boot at #5.
Pete, yes the D300 sure is a great camera especially for weddings. I love mine its all I use right now. However, I've been itching to trade it in for the D700, and this itch has been getting worse lately. I have the glass all ready to.
mb said:
Hass-Mass is using technology similar to one used in sensor cleaning piezo motors built in most new Nikon cameras so I suppose multi-shot can be implemented also.
(Not to be pedantic, but) a better analogy (than to sensor cleaning motors) is to the motors used for in-camera vibration reduction. You need precise (and accurate!) sensor motion control not likely to be implemented in a cleaner's "shaker" system.
To be pedantic none of the mentioned methods is able to do this specific task.
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