Long time stalker, first time poster. How do people survive having to wait for Adobe to add their new cameras (D600 here)? I came to the stark realization last night after shooting 200+ pictures at a hockey game in RAW last night, and LR4 said "no no" to my import. I also realized why I don't use ViewNX.
How to survive without Photoshop/Lightroom?
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Posted 8 months ago #
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I'll just quote your last two words.
"Use ViewNX"
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Posted 8 months ago # -
I've accepted that I have to. Almost. FYI, from the pics I've worked with so far, the D600 is amazing in low light.
Posted 8 months ago # -
iris chrome said:
I'll just quote your last two words."Use ViewNX"
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Quite.
View is not a substantial editing tool, but it DOES allow for basic RAW processing and exporting into TIFF/JPG.
As I was reading the original question I was thinking of a colleague of mine who would reply "Corel Paint Shop Pro X5" without thinking, but not using it myself, I don't know how often they update the raw library...
Posted 8 months ago # -
Will Lr not update RAW yet? grrr. How long is the lag normally?
Posted 8 months ago # -
I use ViewNX2 more then any other software. It's much better than the original ViewNX.
Posted 7 months ago # -
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ViewNX2 and GIMP
Posted 7 months ago # -
iris chrome said:
I'll just quote your last two words."Use ViewNX"
: )
This is how I'm dealing with the D600 right now. If I want to do any heavy editing on a picture, I export the NEF to a TIFF using ViewNX 2 then play with the TIFF in Lightroom. For non-critical pictures I just shoot JPG usually.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Can't you just use Adobe DNG converter and then use PS / LR as normal?
Posted 7 months ago # -
Doing the TIFF to LR solution now. Thanks.
Posted 7 months ago # -
I'm guessing 2-3 weeks for a D600 LR4 release. In the past it used to be on the order of months, but it seems like Nikon and Adobe have been playing nice lately (2-3 years).
Posted 7 months ago # -
I just spent some time reading up on this, and it looks like my observation might just be due to chance (and may not even be accurate).
The updates for lightroom come out approximately quarterly, so if D600 support isn't included in the next one (4.2), it may be three months like TTJ was saying.
Welcome to the forum, Tattewonu.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Actually it is about time that Nikon and Canon recognised DNG
Posted 7 months ago # -
OnTheRopes said:
Actually it is about time that Nikon and Canon recognised DNG+1
I wonder if Nikon will be first of the big two to switch now that Google bought Nik Software? I don't see Nikon having an interest in NEF anymore. Am I missing something, though?
It sure would be nice to unbox a camera and have lightroom support its raw format natively, and dng seems like a nice format to have that happen.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Nikon was using NEF long before Nik was around, Nik has nothing to do with Nikon's RAW format.
It would be even nicer if there was a real open RAW format, not one created/maintained by Adobe. Not everyone uses Adobe products, and DNG doesn't play nice with everything.
Posted 7 months ago # -
I'm not looking for an argument, Rob, but Nik does have at least something to do with NEF because they produce Capture NX, which is Nikon's proprietary raw converter. Maybe the acquisition by Google won't change anything. I was just speculating that some google might rub off to make Nikon feel less evil...um...proprietary.
Do I have the relationships wrong here? I'm not very clear on all of this, which is why I asked the question.
BTW, in my previous post I should have said 'monetary interest in NEF.'
Edit: I think it's a bit wrong to say DNG doesn't play nice with everything. A better way to say it would be that not everything supports DNG. Is it the right format to be a standard? I don't know, but I think it is a step in the right direction.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Not looking for an argument either, sorry if I came across that way. :)
The NEF format was developed years before Capture NX came around, and was used in "Nikon Capture", the original software that shipped when the D1 series was released in 1999. Nik helped Nikon make Capture NX2, for the control point system Nik developed. Nikon developed the original Capture NX in house several years before that. Nikon took over development again some time in 2011, so Nik hasn't had any active roll in the software for a while now.
Posted 7 months ago # -
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I used viewNX and corel paint shop pro x2 for a while. It was OK. I used NX for the RAW and then messed with the jpegs in paint shop.
I eventually broke down and got lightroom though and use that exclusively now. I wouldn't do without now.
Posted 7 months ago # -
I think it's looking more likely that the D600 will be supported in version 4.2 of lightroom since there hasn't been an update yet. Paradoxically, the longer you D600 buyers wait for support, the more likely it is that you won't have to wait as long for support.
Posted 7 months ago # -
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Trick Lightroom into reading D600 files by changing EXIF data.
http://betterfamilyphotos.blogspot.com/2012/09/nikon-d600-dng-raw-files-show.html
PS: Has anyone else noticed the tags on this thread?
Posted 7 months ago # -
OnTheRopes said:
Actually it is about time that Nikon and Canon recognised DNGI'm not looking for an argument either, but a thought occurs...
Presumably there is "Pride" at stake here. No doubt Canon and Nikon (and others?) would argue that their RAW format was better than all the others. And hence be unwilling to adopt what might be seen as a "lowest common denominator" format.
True, all camera makers agree on JPG, but that's seen as a work-a-day solution, not an elite format.
Posted 7 months ago # -
jonnyapple said:
+1I wonder if Nikon will be first of the big two to switch now that Google bought Nik Software? I don't see Nikon having an interest in NEF anymore. Am I missing something, though?
FYI Nikon bought NX from Nik years ago and have been self developing the program themselves. The purchase of Nik won't make a difference in the Nikon world. The name may change possibly.
Posted 7 months ago #
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