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Which Nikon super tele?

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  • Started 10 months ago by sevencrossing
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  1. scoobysmak

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    I personally go with guys on off-shore oil rigs looking for women on the beach.

    I will say now that it looks like Nikon is very serious about the 800mm f5.6, there are more choices since I did my damage at the camera store.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. tc

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    A related question on AF with extenders. Say I get a TC20 with 300/f4. With effective f8, is the AF on camera purposely disabled even on a bright day since it's past f5.6? I know extenders gives much less light which will affect AF. I just want to know whether it's a hard set limit on the camera by Nikon to force people buy faster lens if using extenders.

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  3. msmoto

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    Some report the AF still works albeit slower. Of course the newer bodies will most likely work at f/8. It depends on the body, but I do not think that the system turns off, merely has not enough data to work correctly. This opinion is based on here-say, not on my experience. A better idea may be to get the TC-14EII, if this is compatible with the 300mm/f4.0. Or, although folks do not like this lens, the 80-400mmf/4.5-5.6 is good. I have one but never use it as I have other stuff. But, I put up a comparison somewhere with the 400mm f/2.8 and the 70-200,,f/2.8 w; TC-20EIII. Mine works well.

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  4. framer

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    I personally have used the AFS 400 f4 with a TC20E III with a D3s body and got acceptable results using the center sensor only and normal daylight. Forget low light and low contrast images.

    framer

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  5. Newfie

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    I have the 300 2.8 and the 400 2.8 and never use a TC. I have tried both with the TC-14 and the TC-17. Only a slight decrease in IQ but I find performance suffers. When you are buying $5K and $9K lenses I expect zero compromise.

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  6. msmoto

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    Mmm... I shoot my 400mm f/2.8VRII with both the TC-14EII and TC-20EIII, shooting cars and motorcycles, airplanes, fast moving objects...no problems and tack sharp.

    Check out Josh Hayes, Turn Six, Road America... 400 + TC20-EIII

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantinesfotos/7332495522/sizes/o/in/set-72157629918001642/

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  7. Newfie

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    Impressive but I shoot from a moving platform...a small longliner sized vessel on the North Atlantic. My target is fast flying Puffins and breaching whales. Perhaps it is the VR setting that conflicts with the TC. I'll turn off the the VR on my next outing.

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  8. framer

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    I've been talking myself into a 400 2.8 AFS and now I've found one "Mk 2" I'm trying to talk myself out of it. I tell myself it's best to invest in good glass. Then I don't need it. Then you don't need it till you need it. ...

    framer

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  9. golf007sd

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    framer said:
    I've been talking myself into a 400 2.8 AFS and now I've found one "Mk 2" I'm trying to talk myself out of it. I tell myself it's best to invest in good glass. Then I don't need it. Then you don't need it till you need it. ...

    framer

    Been there buddy. Once I get the hunger/itch I find it hard to resist not to move forward and get what I want.

    My next lens will most likely be the 300 2.8 vs the 400 2.8. But who know, if I find a good deal i'm all over it. I usually get all my glass from a privet seller in order to save on the cost. Yet I make sure the lens is in perfect condition and works as it should.

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  10. framer

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    bought

    framer

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  11. golf007sd

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    framer said:
    bought

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    +1 :P

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  12. msmoto

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    framer said:
    bought

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    Oh my....This is going to be one of those "I can't believe this can get out there like it does" experiences....and wait until you stick the TC-20EIII on......still sharp.....and it is an 800mm f/5.6, just like they will be selling for about $15,000. See all the money you have saved.

    Thus, to have purchased the 400/2.8 you have saved about $6000. At least this is how I think......ha, ha, ha...

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  13. El_Pickerel

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    I would buy a D800, rent a 200-400mm f/4, and use the money I would have spent on the lens to go somewhere nicer than New Jersey to take advantage of the 200-400 and my existing glass. No use having superb supertelephoto lenses to use when the air quality is the limiting factor even with shorter lenses... :P

    tc said:
    A related question on AF with extenders. Say I get a TC20 with 300/f4. With effective f8, is the AF on camera purposely disabled even on a bright day since it's past f5.6? I know extenders gives much less light which will affect AF. I just want to know whether it's a hard set limit on the camera by Nikon to force people buy faster lens if using extenders.

    A while ago I experimented with using my 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6 with a Kenko 1.4x teleconverter on my D7000. Definitely not an excellent combination, but it actually autofocused when given enough contrast on my D7000. And hey, equivalent 630mm at f/8 with VR is by no means a bad deal for about $300...

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  14. msmoto

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    If anyone is interested, the 300mm f/2.8 was available at B & H this morning. About 3:20 AM EDT. Will see how long this lasts.

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    Newfie said:
    I have the 300 2.8 and the 400 2.8 and never use a TC. I have tried both with the TC-14 and the TC-17. Only a slight decrease in IQ but I find performance suffers. When you are buying $5K and $9K lenses I expect zero compromise.

    A TC will magnify any imperfections in the prime lens and even with Nikon's top lenses, imperfections will exist

    TCs will also add imperfections that exist in the converter

    They have an advantage, if you are shooting video, or were resolution is being limited by the sensor, but with something like a D800 you may be better of just cropping or just spent another $9k and buy a longer lens. Photography is after all a very expensive occupation

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  16. msmoto

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    @ sevencrossing see this link of the 400 plus TC-20EIII

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantinesfotos/7332495522/sizes/o/in/set-72157629918001642/
    And this is a fast moving bike... hard to see many imperfections here.

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  17. sevencrossing

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    Brillant shot msmoto

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  18. NSXType-R

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    framer said:
    bought

    framer

    How much was the damage to the wallet? :D

    Congrats though, and enjoy your purchase!

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  19. shawnino

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    Wow msmoto--knee on the pavement and everything. Stunning shot.

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  20. framer

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    NSXType-R said:
    How much was the damage to the wallet? :D

    Congrats though, and enjoy your purchase!

    The real question is when to tell the wife?

    framer

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  21. golf007sd

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    framer said:
    The real question is when to tell the wife?

    framer

    Should you need a place to hide...the lens that is...I have space available :P

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  22. framer

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    Not needed I always have a plan.

    I'm thinking a new Red Mustang convertible, she needs a new car anyway.

    I'll get to drive it one day per month :)

    framer

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  23. framer

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    Told the wife. She just knows me. Said, she expected me to get that lens sooner or later. Nothing like being transparent.

    framer

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  24. msmoto

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    OK< Framer, now that you have gotten that over with, back to the fun....

    Information has it that Leica built a one-off APO-Telyt-R 1:5.6/1600mm lens and it cost $2,064,500.

    The body of the lens is 1.2-meters long (about 4 feet), and it is 42cm (about 17 inches) wide at the end. It tips the scales at least 60kg, or 132lbs. It goes without saying that this thing requires a very sturdy tripod to be usable.

    It was delivered to one of the oil folks in the land of milk and honey, ha, ha, ha....and no photos from it have ever been made public.

    Leica APO-Telyt-R (Photo Borrowed)

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  25. framer

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    For 2mill does it AF?

    framer

    Posted 9 months ago #

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