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pabnj

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Pierre said:
Stupidity and greed is everywhere.

And it is driving me crazy. Just because we chose not to buy a point and shoot, we get swarmed by stupidity. Although I was never shaken down for money, but have duped into taking pictures for free at a little league game. While taking pictures of my girlfriends daughter, one of the coaches came up to me asking me if I could take pictures of the whole team. She made it sound like she wanted some for herself, and that she's share them after the season. She shared them alright, she charged the parents $20 for a scrapbook she made with my images. Needless to say I was not happy.

Agreed, unfortunately stupidity, and greed is everywhere.

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monty11

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Looks like the light at the end of the UK tunnel, might not be that of a freight train after all:
http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/1721519/section-44-dead-home-office
http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/1722425/home-office-reviews-photography-rights-anti-terror-law-rewrite

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ionphoenix

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photography in public library not allowed??!! whew..

i saw this, it's about photogs rights explained by an attorney
.. i got it from borrowlenses.com link
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

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josie08

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WOW! This is unbelievable. I didn't know this type of thing existed. Now if you were carrying a gun - concealed or unconcealed - you would be all set!! (ha, ha)

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Ronin.1

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Here is a website called "Photography is Not a Crime". http://carlosmiller.com/

I can not seem to find the news article about a motorcyclist who was pulled over for speeding (gee, what a surprise!) and issued a ticket. He video taped the cop with a helmet cam and was subsequently charged with a wiretap violation and faces a maximum of 16 years imprisonment if convicted at trial. It appears that abusive prosecution using wiretap laws is becoming widespread.

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stanlm

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This is an interesting topic. As just a casual shooter converting to DSLR about a year ago, I do notice I take fewer shots that have people in them compared to when I had a tiny PnS strapped to my wrist. I just anticipate (older) family and friends will be more sensitive in front of a dslr, particularly if I have a good sized lens on.

But with many ppl buying the entry level dslr kits (myself being one of them), that ought to make certain people less sensitive to dslrs. no doubt they can then find something else to complain about :)

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Reminds me of that story about the guy who took pictures for the Amtrak photo contest only to be arrested as a terrorist witnessed by Amtrak employees...

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heartyfisher said:
Rally for Concerned Photographers Sunday, August 29th 2010
http://www.artsfreedomaustralia.com/blog/?p=99

Yup too lazy to create a new thread .. and its related anyway . :-)

So For any in Sydney Australia that is keen to join the demonstration look up the website and I may see you there..

just a bump.. for the rally and ... http://newsarse.com/2010/08/06/terrorists-sick-of-being-treated-like-photographers/

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jonnyapple

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That's a great one, hearty! Is that like a British version of The Onion?

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TurtleLouie

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The paparazzi (sp?) seems to be able to take pictures of anyone, anywhere without being questioned. And not just in the USA or the UK. Is there a double standard with respect to photography? If it is for the tabloids its ok but taking pictures for the sake of art seems questionable. I have even been told that I cannot use a tripod by the police without a permit. Has anyone had this problem? How as photographers do we solve these problems?

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Just a bump on this thread- here's more photography law stuff if you guys are interested.

I am not... until I get arrested I guess. :D

For those lawyers (WarPrints, I'm looking at you!), feel free to check it over.

http://betterdigitalphotography.blogspot.com/2010/11/top-10-misconceptions-about-photography.html

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Good info NSXType-R.

Have any of you had issues with taking pictures where a cop is in the picture? I haven't had any problems yet but there are some states in the United States that have made it unlawful to take any picture where a cop is in it.

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NSXType-R

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Bland said:
Good info NSXType-R.

Have any of you had issues with taking pictures where a cop is in the picture? I haven't had any problems yet but there are some states in the United States that have made it unlawful to take any picture where a cop is in it.

I haven't taken any photos of police officers, but I have taken photos of vehicles. No issues yet.

I'm surprised about that last posting- about your employer owning your photos if you're the one taking them. I'm pretty sure people in the forum came to a conclusion that the employer did own your photos, if my memory is okay.

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If your job description has photographic duties, the photos belong to the employer. If your job description does not mention photography as a duty, then you own the photographs.

Here's the quote "Thus, while you may take a photo while on the job, if photography is not within your job description, then you, not your employer, own the copyright to the image."

Hope this clarifies the issue.

Bob

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jbl

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Same thing happened to me.. I liked the lighting (lol yes, I like shitty lighting.. that's me) and I started to take portraits and other pics.. and I've been told to stop.. This is stupid.

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The case in maryland where the biker videotaped the cop got thrown out by the judge. Ruling that it was a public setting and therefore is not an invasion of privacy. Finally a judge with common sense!

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Bland said:
Good info NSXType-R.

Have any of you had issues with taking pictures where a cop is in the picture? I haven't had any problems yet but there are some states in the United States that have made it unlawful to take any picture where a cop is in it.

What states? Where have you heard this? I understand that some states are using wire-tap laws to stop citizens from the video capture of police officers (wrong headed law IMO), but I haven't seen any laws relating to photography in a public setting, have you?

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Pierre

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This summer, I was in a public park alone taking pictures of bursting fountain water shooting from ground, trying to capture water bubble in mid-air.

About 30 minutes in my shooting session, a lady came and undressed her daughter and son of about 7 years of age leaving them with only their underwear for them to play in the water. I casually took one photo of the girl having fun and went on with my trying to capture water bubbles.
The fact that I was there first, that she was invading my space and that she had no trouble undressing her kids in public did not stop the lady from coming very aggressively to me with accusations of being a pedophile or some sort of child predator on the hunt and told me that she was going to call the police. I was visioning myself trying to explain my tastes to a judge and did not find it funny.

That day, pedophiles have made two more victims, an amateur photographer and a mother of two. Irrational thinking can indeed be very dangerous.

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kaos

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No longer permissible for DSLR use: the entire country of Kuwait, professional journalists excepted. I wonder how they feel about other interchangeable lens cameras (the someday future Nikon EVIL included.)

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MzAwMTg4ODg1

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So... I will be in London 10 days from today and will be spending a week there then I'll be off to Kuwait to spend new year's eve (btw, kaos, that story about DSLR ban in Kuwait turned out to be a hoax. I was living there at the time). The London trip will pretty much be a touristy thing with my fiance and another friend of ours. Of course, we're planning to go to most of the main spots in London including Buckingham Palace, St. Paul's, Houses of Parliament and other places. As with any tourist (and one equipped with a D7k at that), I was planning to take photos of pretty much everything in sight but right now, after reading this thread and a couple of other ones, I'm dreading taking photos with my DSLR. Needless to say, I will be taking pictures until someone stops me. What strikes me the most is that London is one of the top tourist cities in the world. I mean what do they expect their tourists to take pictures of?

I did see the links in monty's post above and they're a little encouraging but I'd still like to hear from NR members who live in the UK or been there recently. What has your recent experience been like? Did things change from back then? Are they better/worse? Any recommendations as to what to photograph or not to photograph? Full disclosure: I'm an Arabic man from Kuwait who resides permanently in the US so I also have to consider the discrimination factor too.

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I haven't been keeping up with news in London, but have the riots ended yet? I heard news of riots being started, but I haven't heard any news of them ending.

I would certainly steer clear of the rioting areas. :D

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iris chrome

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That was on my mind too but I do believe the riots did end though.

...but if you guys don't hear from me after my London trip then you'll know I'm either being detained under section 44 (or 43) or I've been caught dead smack in deadly riots trying to act the brave photographer :p

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iris chrome said:
That was on my mind too but I do believe the riots did end though.

...but if you guys don't hear from me after my London trip then you'll know I'm either being detained under section 44 (or 43) or I've been caught dead smack in deadly riots trying to act the brave photographer :p

The riots are well and truly over... my daughter lives about 5 miles away from Tottenham in north London and things are back to what passes for normal there now.

If you are interested (or want to be worried), check out the British Journal of Photography (bjp-online dot com) for the 'street-rights' campaign pages.

I'm not providing the exact link as its against forum rules to provide them (I think), but this topic - links at the bottom of the BJP home page - is a live one in the UK, especially if you are anywhere away form the tourist areas and according to some, even then it can be 'interesting'. I like the idea of your rights as a photographer, printed on a lens cloth that they do too...

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iris chrome

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Thanks for the website bjrichus. I'm glad the riots there are over as they seemed to have started out of nowhere (I don't want to sound ignorant but that's what it looked like by media in the states). Glad your daughter is ok after the riots.

From what I've been reading so far, things seem to have gotten a little better as far as police randomly stopping picture takers (no news is good news, right?). Although can't say the same about security guards.

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sevencrossing

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To be honest, if you are a tourist and act like one you should not have a problem but type "uk photographer rights" into your favorite search engine, for the whole picture

Posted 1 year ago #