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D600 - all speculations here

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  1. msmoto

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    My guess for today....
    D600 will replace D700. Sensor about 18MP, very similar specs to D700. Price $1995.00. Some upgrades in AF, metering, but not the sophistication of D4 or D800. Maybe we will see 6FPS. ISO native to 6400. This will have the look of a D7000 more so than a D700, especially in the top dials. And for a choice, the D400, will have an 18MP DX sensor and very high ISO, up to 64,000 in extended possibly 12,800 native... and 8-9 FPS. Buffer to handle up to fifty continuous. Price.... $2199.95. Maybe less, but I suspect some of us have a large respect for DX, and the ability to utilize the 1.5 magnification factor, would like a "D4" DX camera and the D400 will be this. A lot of stuff on PAD is shot with 12 MP DX format and looks absolutely great. A new more advanced 18MP, in DX, this is excellent. Of course once these are introduced trying to get one.....mmmmm....

    This should get some opinions going.... and my guess is only that, my guess. Based on reading the stars, I think....

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. adamz

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    I'll lean more towards 24mpx in d400, but that's another topic:) as for the rest it soonds good for d600

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  3. MikeWhis

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    I realise that many here are putting what they want as predictions instead of rational thinking.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. IanAraujoPhoto

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    I'm not sure what to think about these new speculations. I have a D7000 now, and I've had it for the past...2 years or so? I don't know, I just remembering buying it when it was a new release. I'm definitely planning to upgrade to whatever semi-pro camera Nikon releases. If Nikon releases a D400 and D600, I don't know which one I would purchase. I definitely feel that I'm ready to go full frame, but I'd rather spend $1500-$2000 on this D600 and put 1-2K towards lenses rather than $3000 on the D800. So we'll have to wait and see.
    I'm just thinking, I know they are trying to progress technology and everything, but why can't they just make a SOLID entry level FX camera. Almost something that's using technology that's been out forever, in order to make it way better than the competition.

    I HOPE:
    they keep the megapixel count low, something like 18MP would be perfect, maybe even 16MP. I hope they do that, so that they can really boost the ISO performance. I mean, not something that shoots 1million ISO but something that can shoot up to 3,200-6,400 ISO with hardly any noise. It can be expanded to however much they want after that and have as much noise as they want for all I care, but I would like something that can shoot at 3,200-6,400 ISO or so, that has the ability to hold back the noise perfectly. If they want to have expandable ISO ranges to a million so they can market it well, then thats perfectly fine, but like I said I would just like to see mid-high ISO's with incredible detail and little noise.
    I would also like it to have a fast FPS, and I think they could do that with a lower megapixel count and fast buffer speed.
    Also, build the hell out of this thing. Make it able to be dropped and be perfectly fine. Full magnesium alloy body for sure, and weather sealing of course.

    We really don't need a million megapixels or ISO that goes to a million either. Just something that utilizes previous technology to have extremely fast processing speeds and great noise performance. I think that this doesn't need all the silly insane "gags" for marketing like they're trying to put out now (new D3200). People buying this line of equipment, are experienced enough to look at tests with it before buying it. They don't need any way of "marketing" for it. Plus I feel as though it would really appeal to people, if instead of trying to do all this fancy *NEW* stuff they just improved drastically on technology that's out there today.

    Just my thoughts. Sorry this is my first post here in the forums, I just want to apologize for being a newb on this site, if I did something wrong or said something thats already basically been said. Haha, Thanks

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. MikeWhis

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    Although this contradicts my predictions,
    I really hope:
    - they put the 24MP sensor inside
    - they put 7 FPS (same MP/s as D4)
    - they put D4/D800 meter and AF system
    - everything else like D7000

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. MikeWhis

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    I don't think I can afford full frame no matter what. Even if D600 is really $1500, I'd spend around $3500-$1000 (from the selling of my DX stuff). It is $1000 more than my budget could ever stretch, so, no way.

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  7. Mike Gunter

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    adamz said:
    mike - plase calm down a little bit, is it really worth it?

    Hi,

    Calm down? Me? Have I over medicated and didn't know it?

    What did say?

    My best,

    Mike

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. adamz

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    not You Mike Gunter, not You.

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  9. ipdouglas

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    I agree with a few others. The mega-pixel race caused disasters in compact digital cameras with newer ones performing worse than older cameras.

    A nice balance between the detail of pixels and lower noise/ higher dynamic range.

    Apart from that a on/offable gps and wireless control ... in my dreams

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. tcole1983

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    I thought about this more and I would possibly be willing to go FX if the price is right for a D600, but I would still be missing a lens. My only FX lens is the 105 F2.8 macro and as much as I like it, I would need at least one other lens and most likely a zoom.

    What would the strengths of FX over DX be? If they made equal ISO performance in an FX body and DX body is there any benefit to get the FX body? I know with the crop factor there is a difference is how they perform as for DOF and such, but anything else?

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  11. TaoTeJared

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    That has been and will become the main question depending on what this is.

    FX did seem to have an actual sharper image, color, contrast, etc. vs. the same mp on DX. All of that could have been the "Pro" additions as well. With the new designs, that gap may have closed to no noticeable difference.

    I have been watching 2 other cameras, Olympus OM-D EM-5 & Fuji X-pro1 and the IQ from the m4/3 and DX Fuji blows my mind and re-writes most convictions of what limits of those sensors can do. M4/3 is no FX but blows many DX sensors from a couple of years ago out of the water. The Fuji easily beats the first gen FX sensors and comes close to rivaling the current gen.

    If you have a D600 stripped down and a D400 DX that has all the pro features for near the same price and image performance wise they are close... that will be the new conundrum.

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  12. msmoto

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    @TaoTeJared... agree... I certainly think the newer DX sensors will be fantastic. And the tough decision is between the "Pro" DX or Peo-sumer" FX. For me... the DX looks like the way to go simply because of the ability in long shots to use glass which is mush less expensive than the equivalent FX glass. And the D600, while nice if one needs possibly better resolution, i.e., for studio shots, will not have many advantages except for maybe price. The ease of operation of the upcoming, we hope, D400 with the "pro" features most certainly will make it my choice.. I am hoping the D400 sensor is of the highest quality, as good as any out there. We shall see.... shouldn't be too much longer....

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  13. TaoTeJared

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    I hope something gets announced soon. I have conference events booked and need the higher ISO that my D300 no longer cuts it (when flash is not allowed.) (Dang Canon dropping the price on the 5d mk2s - I have ran into 3 this year from attendees and all of them where "uncle Bobs". "He he Mine's cleaner, let me take your picture.")

    Fuji X100 is my standard 35mm side kick and it's brother the Xpro1 may be beside him if nothing comes out soon. Full set-up is still cheaper than a D3s.

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  14. MikeWhis

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    msmoto said:
    @TaoTeJared... agree... I certainly think the newer DX sensors will be fantastic. And the tough decision is between the "Pro" DX or Peo-sumer" FX. For me... the DX looks like the way to go simply because of the ability in long shots to use glass which is mush less expensive than the equivalent FX glass. And the D600, while nice if one needs possibly better resolution, i.e., for studio shots, will not have many advantages except for maybe price. The ease of operation of the upcoming, we hope, D400 with the "pro" features most certainly will make it my choice.. I am hoping the D400 sensor is of the highest quality, as good as any out there. We shall see.... shouldn't be too much longer....

    I'd hope for a prosumer DX, and I hope they release the D400 with a 55-135 2.8.

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    MikeWhis said:
    I'd hope for a prosumer DX, and I hope they release the D400 with a 55-135 2.8.

    I have my old FX lenses just sitting there right NOW looking up at me asking "When is there going to be a new Nikon FX body for me to fit onto?"

    D600 or D400 (if affordable for me - and FX), would be the way to go....

    Come on Nikon - get on with it already...

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    I'm hoping we get more info on this thing soon. I still haven't received my D800 and I'm already starting to second-guess the order. I was pretty much just waiting for a sub-$3000 FF body that had video capabilities, and the D800 was the first Nikon to meet that criteria. But if there is a less-expensive model on the way that will meet the same criteria, I may just cancel the D800 order. I don't shoot for a living, although I have a photojournalism degree, so a somewhat-sturdy, high-end consumer model fits me pretty well, and having the extra dough to spend on lenses is a huge plus. I would even consider buying a second body or a decent mirrorless system to compliment it and keep my occupied until the D600 was released if the price was right.

    Posted 11 months ago #
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    nofai said:
    With the speed how they send out camera. I guess we prolly need to wait 3 yrs inline for pre order for the D600 ...

    kEu$*HfHjldN

    I went to order a D700 today in the Uk and was told by the shop they will not be recieving anymore D700 as Nikon has stopped building them. I then asked why and was told Nikon said because of the D700 replacement. I explained the D800 wasnt a replacement for the 700 and her reply was, i cant tell you what it is as Ive signed a Confidentiality clause however can tell you the rumours on the internet are pretty true if that helps.. mmmm so is the D600 about to be released and if so do I wait or buy the D700 now, although 3 years old at least it has no waiting list or problems... I want low light for motorsport!!!

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    bjrichus said:
    I have my old FX lenses just sitting there right NOW looking up at me asking "When is there going to be a new Nikon FX body for me to fit onto?"

    D600 or D400 (if affordable for me - and FX), would be the way to go....

    Come on Nikon - get on with it already...

    Just changed my mind. Would be going for D600 + 24-85 combo if it's around $2000.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  19. msmoto

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    As I read all the posts, I think about all the interesting ideas and speculations. But what just might be true is this. While NIKON has had some very serious problems in the production area, the two new bodies, D800 and D4 are absolutely winners! Incredible performers.

    It is my thinking, the replacement for the D700, be it the D600 or other (probably other) will not disappoint us. My suspicions are it will be something in the way of a "sports photographer's" D800. Higher ISO, higher FPS, lower MP.

    And beyond that it is pure speculation. It may be a lower priced D4 in some respects. And I do believe NIKON will bring out a DX version, the D400 which will also perform very well. The thinking behind the two flagships can surely produce more great cameras.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  20. Geoff_K

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    Would love a DX camera with 7or8 FPS and 18MP minimum that has "good" 6400 noise control.

    Just about anything they put out this year will be better than my D90. How much better depends on how much I want to spend.

    I find it difficult to justify a D4 @ $6K (and want more than 16MP in an FX camera to have crop room to compensate for the "loss" in zoom) the D800E is difficult to get (short of overpaying or getting lucky), which is good as I may have time to see if they are going to toss us a high end DX.

    Heck, if the D600 has good noise at iso6400 I may go that route. I have been shooting at ~4fps so could live with that if it saves me "enough"

    By the end of August I hope to have an upgrade.

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  21. bjrichus

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    suntiger1965 said:

    "Ive signed a Confidentiality clause..."

    Most major manufacturers of anything substantial require that those they let into the know, sign or agree to some kind of non-disclosure agreement. At work, we had them flashed on a screen and brought to our attention at the start of a presentation from a certain computer hardware company about products they intend to launch in Q3 this year and are trying to get us to buy. "Punishment to the fullest extent of the law" and all that other rubbish if you say anything in public about the content or identify the company ... Lose lips, cost .... well, in this case potentially billions! It sure is frustration for those of us who are waiting to buy, but its the way things are now.

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    Geoff_K said:
    Would love a DX camera with 7or8 FPS and 18MP minimum that has "good" 6400 noise control.

    Just about anything they put out this year will be better than my D90. How much better depends on how much I want to spend.

    I agree about the D90 remark. The current generation of bodies are much better than gear from a few years ago (just about everything else being equal)... The D600 needs to tread a very difficult path ... The more features we all demand and Nikon include in the 600 will (all unsubstantiated, no idea what the real bodies are going to offer, kind of NDA disclaimer), begin to rob sales from D400/800 bodies.

    My "personal" feature list is somewhat more refined than before ... is for an FX body as this thread is about the D600 after all, with good DX results too as I have both FX and DX glass. At least 6 FPS and 16MP and class leading high ISO noise control, but also (of course) bracketing and faster focus and processing (bigger buffer????).

    As much dynamic range as we can get ... can never have enough of that. I simply don't care about "creative" modes as I have software for all that, which works much better and are more controllable than the in camera stuff.

    And all for less than $1,600 ... Hmmmm ...

    Posted 11 months ago #
  23. sevencrossing

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    bjrichus said:

    And all for less than $1,600 ... Hmmm ...

    I suspect the way Nikon will keep the price down will be fewer buttons and dials and more controls moved to the menu

    it will have more mega whatnots and a higher fps than the 5D Mark II ( but not a lot more )

    Nikon will will also try and "out do" the 5D Mark II, on video

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  24. iris chrome

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    Somebody on the main blog (LEECM) posted this link for photos of the D600:

    http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=2793033&m=f&last=36531513

    It looks even smaller than the D7000... which I don't think is a bad thing btw.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  25. zhinsara

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    I think it's the large prism and mirror box causing it to look smaller than the d7000. It might be a little larger for all we know, but it should approximate the D7000 in size.

    Posted 11 months ago #

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