See this excellent video:
Hands-on comparison D800 and Hasselblad 40MP
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I saw this video earlier. Cracked me up when the guy said he didn't want to walk in to a client with the same camera that someone else might have. He's got a better chance of being the only guy in the room with a D800 than with a Hassy right now!
I didn't like the skin tones on the D800 in the movie either, but that is partially because I was watching a video taken of a screen and displayed on my monitor. I have no idea what the originals looked like. But I can't see requiring a lot of post to improve the skin tone. The DR issue was more interesting to me, as well as the advantage of the larger sensor for shallow depth of field. BUT having said all that, I'm not buying a Hassy on the basis of this video.
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These guys have interesting content on their site, from the educational (like the above) to the absurd (being in the Canadian West, they had an OK Corral "shootout" where everyone was armed with DSLRs). As I mentioned in another thread, I would wholly recommend them as a place to buy from. I bought two good lenses from them. Customer service is top-notch. (The person I deal with is Erin Nayeri.) Shipping is fast. If they say it's in stock, it's in stock and ready to go same-day.
@Wataru: agreed, these days, Hassys surely more "common".
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Great video... and no question $3000 vs $30,000mmmm..... What would be interesting would be a match up of the final product after the billboard, magazine page, brochure is completed, to see if the difference is still there. In virtually everything I have seen, while looking at the great skin tones on a video monitor will show up a lot of flaws,, once one goes to print, broadcast TV, or other, a great deal of quality simply disappears.... especially in print.
But I cannot afford a new Hassy anyway....
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@msmoto - sell 400/2.8 and d4 and get hassy :D
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Great video. Shows the value of the Hassy. BUT not that much of a difference compared to the price difference.
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This is my local shop, great people and usually the lowest prices in town.
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msmoto said:
and no question $3,000 vs $30,000 mmmm.....Yup! That's the issue... If I was buying, it's certainly worth 3 times the D800, but 10 times? I can certainly see the level of detail and the color differences but is getting that "out of the camera" worth the $27,000 difference and even then I'd be restricted to shooting in very specific situations and at low ISO to get the better results?
Just goes to show how our values/perceptions change over only a few years ... when the D3 was new, we'd all have been drooling over the 40MP Hassy and now ... not so much.
[now where is my old solid oak frame 10x8 plate camera? Bet I can get better detail than the Hassy] ... LOL!
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I like The Camera Store's videos very much- they're smart, entertaining and more informative than Digital Rev's.
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For a studio camera, the Hassy is great. As far as the ultimate.... in the 60's we were shooting 11"x14" Ektachrome... now that is detail. And cheaper than the Hassy.
For most of us, the low ISO is also a problem. This comparison is much like comparing a Ferrari with such as a Subaru WRX rally car. Yup, on track the Ferrari may win, but in general road driving the Ferrari will never see the Subu after the first few minutes. Especially if it goes off road.
Low light ability is important along with good dynamic range. If one wants to see what the D4 dynamic range is, check out this shot which shows a Power Point presentation and the light on the speaker is from the projected image on the screen. A range of incredible amount. With Lightroom 4 this image was created as seen in this link. And at ISO 2200, f/4.0 1/60th sec, NIKKOR 16-35mm f/4 VR at 35mm. No Hassy could have done this. At any price. Period.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantinesfotos/6949777282/sizes/o/in/photostream/
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msmoto said:No Hassy could have done this. At any price. Period.
I think that is what they wanted to say in the video but didn't quite get the words out...
Lets face it. For $3k ... no competition. If only I had $3k to spare... only got $1k :-(
Suppose that is what credit cards are for?
Wonder what my wife will say?
(grins, ducks and runs away) ......
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Tell your wife you found a way to save $27,000!
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You guys will never learn.... you cannot fool us women.....ha, ha, ha......
I think the new sensors on all the NIKONs will no doubt have a long dynamic range. And as I am coming from a D90 to a D4, my mind continues to be totally blown away. But, it will be interesting to see what is on the D400, and to see if the D3200 sensor has a better range than in the past.
I posted the link, mainly because I have sort of "been there, done that" in the commercial world and while all this talk about skin tones, etc., is true, I still do not think after it is in the final product as a printed piece, the difference would really be actually noticeable. A nice "double blind" study taking the best of the D800 photos, the best of the Hassy 40MP photos and printing them to the same specs, then allowing a panel of ten to choose which prints came from which camera, may prove surprising. Maybe someone will try this......
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I like this video and posts like it!
Nothing else, just that I like it :)
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@Tao... I love the video as well. Just a really neat thing to watch. Good folks, honest presentation. Nice.
PB PM said:
I've had great dealings with them as well, bought several lenses from them (online). Next time I visit Calgary I'm going to stop in just to see the place in person.Next time I am in Calgary.... about $2500 in diesel fuel for me.... ha, ha, ha
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msmoto said:
@Tao... I love the video as well. Just a really neat thing to watch. Good folks, honest presentation. Nice.Next time I am in Calgary.... about $2500 in diesel fuel for me.... ha, ha, ha
Ha, its just one tank of gas for me from Vancouver. That's what you get for owning a truck.
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Excellent video thanks for sharing this! :)
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I think this video illuminates more about the antiquated marketing model of high in commercial photographers than the capabilities or even the products of either of the cameras. The days of landing contracts with clients based on the cost of your gear are limited and since 2008, waning fast.
What I saw from the video was a huge differentiation in exposure, little if any post and possible inaccurate raw rendering of the nikon file in Lightroom (instead of CaptureNX2).If I was 22 and just out of Brooks, I would buy a D800, Shoot EV -1/3 to protect the highlights and take advantage of the D800's shadow recovery, setup a few presets to correct the skin tone and Bata-BOOM…you're in there. Then I would bust ass with a $27,000 marketing plan and I would own Dale and Michelle's client inside of two years. The field is level.
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boulderghost said:
I think this video illuminates more about the antiquated marketing model of highend commercial photographers than the capabilities or even the products of either of the cameras. The days of landing contracts with clients based on the cost of your gear are limited and since 2008, waning fast. What I saw from the video was a huge differentiation in exposure, little if any post and possibly inaccurate raw rendering of the nikon file in Lightroom (instead of CaptureNX2).If I was 22 and just out of Brooks, I would buy a D800, Shoot EV -1/3 to protect the highlights and take advantage of the D800's shadow recovery, setup a few presets to correct the skin tone and Bata-BOOM…you're in there. Then I would bust ass with a $27,000 marketing plan and I would own Dale and Michelle's client list inside of two years. The field is level.
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boulderghost said:
I think this video illuminates more about the antiquated marketing model of high in commercial photographers than the capabilities or even the products of either of the cameras. The days of landing contracts with clients based on the cost of your gear are limited and since 2008, waning fast.
What I saw from the video was a huge differentiation in exposure, little if any post and possible inaccurate raw rendering of the nikon file in Lightroom (instead of CaptureNX2).If I was 22 and just out of Brooks, I would buy a D800, Shoot EV -1/3 to protect the highlights and take advantage of the D800's shadow recovery, setup a few presets to correct the skin tone and Bata-BOOM…you're in there. Then I would bust ass with a $27,000 marketing plan and I would own Dale and Michelle's client inside of two years. The field is level.
Well, maybe not. I have had clients who wanted the exact color in the transparency that the product had in real life. And we produced this. Clients are extremely particular and have a lot of "presets" themselves. Many are totally unreasonable simply saying "I want this on 2 and a quarter" back when Hassys were just that. So, even if the end result is the same, I would doubt someone could steal a client list unless they were the best salespeople in the world in their approach. And I worked with some biggies at one time....
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I would like to see the same comparison with the S2.
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