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Nikon D4/D800 issues
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Posted 8 months ago #
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Rx4Photo said:
@ NSXType-R, I was wondering about that some time ago but felt that since I don't own the camera I wouldn't open up the subject. If the XQD showed up in a few more things then I could understand it but for now I dunnow.I don't own the camera either, but have been following the new camera announcements.
Yes, it's interesting to see that Canon announced the 6D without XQD support either.
Might be a format war that Nikon has lost already. If that's the case, then there might already be a D4 update that has 2 CF slots instead.
Besides the issue with the pins, what's wrong with CF? Is it just because the pins are holding back CF? Physically it's a larger format than SD cards so it should in theory hold more data.
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The XQD format is a very powerful and durable interface. This form of technology will take some time in finding its niche w in the market at large. XQD is very much like Apple/Intel's Thunderbolt interface....that only Apple has truly puts its back behind. The XQD's technological advancement is a welcomed sign by me and I'm very excited to see that Nikon has decided to put it into there high end bodies...regardless of what other camera manufactures adopt.
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This was posted 4 days ago...interesting news.
http://photorumors.com/2012/09/20/sandisk-will-not-produce-xqd-memory-cards-will-support-cfast-2-0/Posted 8 months ago # -
wellllllllllll, I thought I had a winner but ... it looks like strike #3 on the D800E
Here is a link to a test I just ran. I thought I was OK and stopped test shooting, but noticed in some of my sports shots a problem, so tested again.
I taped newspaper to my garage door - set my lens to F3 - ISO 100 - Shutter was 1/4000th - shutter lockup used on a tripod (though at 1/4000th and 50mm lens I dont think it mattered)- I took 3 shots at each of teh 3 focus points - reracking focus between shots and kept the best looking of the three.
The left and right focus points are (in my opinion) terrible. left seems worse
I think I may be done with the D800 line of camera for the rest of the year and possibly forever. Strike 3 usually means you are out.
I would be happy to hear what I did wrong and how that wrongness made the images look so bad. PLEASE tell me I messed up as I would rather keep the camera because the photos are spectacular compared to my D90. ;- )
The file sizes are large due to side by side comparisons of the 3 points. Goto original size to make a judgement on my complaint please.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36026557@N05/sets/72157631614417650/
I am so very disappointed.
edit to add SN 3005xxx
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Just opened a new issue with my D800 that I have had for about a month. I was out shooting and set up for a 5 shot bracket that used shutter speeds of 800,400,200,100,50. When I shoot brackets I use the interval timer so I only have to press the shutter one time and it will fire of 5 shots. I was using a dx 18-200 lens at the time set to about 35mm. It took 4 shots and made a strange noise and stopped. I just figured I did something wrong and tried it again, same thing. I looked at the images and the first 3 were ok but the 4th was shifted to the right. So the same mountain that was on the left side in the first 3 images was now on the right. (The camera was mounted on a tripod). I used continuous fire to take the images and it worked fine and went back to my car. Later I tried it again and same thing. Tonight I experimented with it again using the same shutter speed and it did it again except it now went to an ERR status and is stuck there and won't do anything else. I was finally able to clear the ERR after reading the manual (novel idea) but the issue still persists. I switched to an FX lens and it does not do this. I guess that's my excuse to go buy that 24-70 2.8 lens I've been looking at.
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Could VR move the image that far, siwilson? Have you tried any other lenses on the body?
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Thanks for your response.
It might be possible but VR was off since it was on the tripod unless somehow the camera activated it. I just updated my post that after I finally cleared the ERR I tried it with my 50mm and it doesn't do it but it also doesn't have VR. I'm pretty sure I have shot this way with my other FX lenses.Posted 7 months ago # -
Am I asking TOO MUCH from this camera ? Here is the latest, after ~3 hours of shooting targets to check focus. Tell me if this is as good as it should get ?
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Geoff_K said:
...The left and right focus points are (in my opinion) terrible. left seems worse...edit to add SN 3005xxx
My D800 SN 3019xxx and it is fine. You are still on an early batch. I have read many who just returned their camera's right away and got a new one, only to have the same problem. The issue is that it seems most of them have the issue so it was very likely to get another bad one.
Those who have sent their camera's in, got quick service and it fixed the issue. It seems that would be the best solution.
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Geoff_K said:
Am I asking TOO MUCH from this camera ? Here is the latest, after ~3 hours of shooting targets to check focus. Tell me if this is as good as it should get ?What lens are you using and F stop? Adobe is removing much of the EXIF data to see it.
It looks off, but some lenses are quite bad on the outer edges.
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Rx4Photo said:
This was posted 4 days ago...interesting news.
http://photorumors.com/2012/09/20/sandisk-will-not-produce-xqd-memory-cards-will-support-cfast-2-0/I wish the D800 had XQD cards - the new released design specs have 1gb/s read and write speeds. That would go a long way to clear a buffer. I'm having to buy huge CF cards anyway, adding a new format wouldn't change much.
Posted 7 months ago # -
Nikon 70-200 VR1 at 200mm ... F2.8 SS ~1000 ( i was at 1250 and 1000 during testing) tripod mounted. my apologies Tao.
edit: checked .. it was 1/1000th
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Geoff_K said:
Nikon 70-200 VR1 at 200mm ... F3.0 SS ~1000 ( i was at 1250 and 1000 during testing) tripod mounted. my apologies Tao.I personally would shoot at F4-f8, turn off the VR and tripod it. You don't need your shutter speed that high - really redundant.
That said, it does look off for sure. Like I said above, you have an early batch SN. I would just send it in.
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I did not have VR on when I tested it. I just tested with my Sigma 50mm macro at F3 1/640th and tripod mounted and it is the same from it. Soft on left, somewhat soft on right, sharp as nails in center.
0-4 for this problem plus the Nikon Store rep ... well .. lets say mislead me .. I specifically asked what SN they were shipping. She told me it was much higher than what I received (shipped days later than it should have). She knew I would not have ordered had she told me it was under 3006xxx.
I told my wife I was done with the D800E until 2013 and I must admit I am losing interest in even trying to get one that focuses properly.
Posted 7 months ago # -
@Geoff_K Give the D600 a try....no?
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@Geoff_K: Seems silly just to give up on one rather than sending it in unless you don't want/need all the features on the D800/e or want to save $1,000. Sounded like they were getting them turned around fairly fast - if you would have sent it in a week ago, you probably would have got it back next week. Just my thought.
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TaoTeJared said:
@Geoff_K: Seems silly just to give up on one rather than sending it in unless you don't want/need all the features on the D800/e or want to save $1,000. Sounded like they were getting them turned around fairly fast - if you would have sent it in a week ago, you probably would have got it back next week. Just my thought.I have seen those that had the focus shifted to another point and been asked to send it in more than once. At $65 a pop that can get expensive. I do not see why I should have to pay to ship something in for a repair that should be working upon arrival.
I am not going to get caught up in .. sorry past the 30 days, deal with it ... story. ;-)
golf: looked at one, like the D800 size better.
Posted 7 months ago # -
My RMA has to go through channels, but is allegedly in the process. I did ask for the rep that placed the order and got the .. my apologies for the problem you are having.
I told her that there were 3 problems with my order and from least to most were
1) ordered wednesday 2 day .. it did not ship until friday and i did not get it until monday
2) she told me SN 30079xx was shipping, they sent me 3005xxx
3) after 4 hours of testing .. left focus is ugly, right is close enough (i guess), center is sharp as a tack.I do not see how I have gotten 4 of these that have this problem, yet many seem to get cameras with properly working outer focus points.
Mine have all been 3004-3006 SN's that I have been sent. 2 from the Nikon Store and 2 from BestBuy.
If someone looks at my test photo and can tell me what the heck I did wrong and your suggestion corrects the problem I am showing, I'll send you something via paypal because I would LOVE to keep a D800E. The RMA should be here in a day or two. After that dont bother with a suggestion as it will be gone.
Hell, they might have a D400 before I bother ordering another D800E. :-(
Posted 7 months ago # -
Very disappointed, was going to buy a D4 but tested two and both exhibited the left focus issue. One was straight out of box and had new firmware. This was the first I tested and the second (shop model) was worse (on original firmware). We tested with an 85mm f1.4 (both at 1.4 and 2.8) and with a brand new (shops) 28-70 f2.8 at 70mm 2.8
Giving up on the D4, hope they fix it in the D4S. I was hoping it would give me better focusing with my f1.4 primes (focussing in lower light and hopefully being more accurate). If Nikon can't get this right, I think it's about time they at least brought out a Dx camera with hybrid viewfinder for critical focusing.Posted 7 months ago # -
I have not heard of a left focus problem on the D4. Is there more data on this? With about 15,000 clicks on mine, this is a surprise...and mine is one of the very first. Anyone else have this problem with left focus in the D4?
Posted 7 months ago # -
It's not hard to test for, single point AF and select left most focus point, pick a high contrast target and shoot. If the result is an out of focus blur then check against centre and right hand point. If all points are in focus then you are lucky ! Obviously left and right might be softer than centre due to lens but left and right should be consistent
I truly wasn't expecting to see any issues after the D4 has been out so long but was buying the camera in a foreign country so was testing first. .Posted 7 months ago # -
I do not have a single issue with my D4.
Question: How many camera shop can you think of that will let you open, not one, but TWO D4's and let you "test" it with a 85 1.4 and 24-70 2.8 in their store for focusing issues? That is over $9500 (US Dollars) worth of gear! The only way I can think of a store letting you do this is 1) you bring in your own 85 1.4 and 24-70 and they have a test body in stock for "playing with."
Posted 7 months ago # -
I was clearly lucky with the store then but as you seem to doubt the story.... the 85mm was brought by me. They had two D4s because they lost the box for the store one (with charger etc) and had to get a second in to sell me (the new boxed one that I was going to buy and was testing before leaving). On testing it I found the issues. Obviously wanting to make a sale they then wanted to rule out my lens (hence offering the test with the zoom) and the subsequently the store model D4 when we replicated the faults with the other lens. The shop owner also tested with me. Back home now and my old D3 has consistent left/Right with the same lens (I had to double check!)
Posted 7 months ago # -
If the D4 has a problem, then it is a good thing to at least hear about. I am going to test mine with a couple of lenses and see if any unusual problems are present. I have been having some difficulty in getting a manual focus lens to accurately focus, and maybe the camera is the problem. The issue is inconsistent, however, which always suggests at least in my case, the error is in me.
Thanks for bringing this up...
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